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[10:39] <xnox> infinity, src:click is up for demotion, and thus taking src:schroot with it. Do we want to seed src:schroot into something "supported" or do we not care that it is in universe?
[10:39] <xnox> imho there is no need for it to be in main, and it was not in e.g. precise.
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[12:53] <infinity> xnox: I'd argue that sbuild (which would bring in schroot) should be in main in supported-development, but they've historically not been, indeed.
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[14:41] <acheronuk> all the above ^^^^ ref bug #1687444
[14:41] <ubot5`> bug 1687444 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu Zesty) "Zesty SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.9.5" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687444
[14:44] <jbicha> acheronuk: I'm not on the SRU team, but are at least some of those updates independently installable?
[14:44] <jbicha> in other words, could that be split into multiple bugs?
[14:57] <acheronuk> jbicha: AFAIK, not something we've done before on plasma SRU's (excepted if it is just one or 2 packages to update over the normal bugfix versions)
[14:57] <acheronuk> i.e. just done as a suite like bug #1518598
[14:57] <ubot5`> bug 1518598 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for Plasma 5.4.3" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518598
[14:58] <jbicha> that's a bad example since that SRU didn't happen
[14:58] <acheronuk> just the first I came to
[15:00] <jbicha> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/318708996/user-manager_4%3A5.9.4-0ubuntu1_4%3A5.9.5-0ubuntu0.1.diff.gz
[15:01] <jbicha> ok, that's a minimal SRU but maybe too minimal?
[15:04] <acheronuk> jbicha: some of the packages with a very small delta can maybe be dropped. we deliberately only bumped deps on packages that really needed it to allow that flexibility should the release/SRU team want to prune things
[15:06] <jbicha> ok, better example: plasma-workspace-wallpapers, it's a 41MB .deb just to add a Turkish translation
[15:07] <acheronuk> see what I said above
[15:09] <acheronuk> jbicha: I'm sure AA/SRU team will want to discuss with us tomorrow or coming days. for now, going to enjoy my Sunday. :)
[15:10] <jbicha> ok, enjoy!
[15:11] <acheronuk> jbicha: and you. thanks for the comments
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[19:31] <xnox> jjohansen, internet troubles?
[19:31] <jjohansen> zesty troubles, I keep having hard lockups
[19:32] <jjohansen> nothing logged
[19:32] <xnox> jjohansen, NVMe drive?
[19:32] <xnox> Samsung or Toshiba?
[19:34] <jjohansen> yeah, samsung 960
[19:38] <jjohansen> however I didn't have the same problem under the yakkety kernel
[19:40] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: nVida graphics ? same issue - and installing proprietary driver worked for my case .
[19:41] <jjohansen> Bashing-om: yeah dual intel, nvidia. I am not using the nvidia gpu but, nouveau could still be causing problems
[19:42] <jjohansen> the nvidia driver has its own set of problems, I am not sure I am willing to deal with atm
[19:45] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: Fought the freezing for a month -= could not find a cause . for lack of else to try - installed the nVidia driver . solid as a rock since !
[19:47] <jjohansen> Bashing-om: interesting, I guess I will have to give it a try
[19:47] <jjohansen> thanks
[19:49] <Bashing-om> jjohansen: Be aware I have no clue as to why - other things need attention then I revert to looking at the nouveau driver issue .
[20:03] <xnox> jjohansen, there is bug report for that and better kernel.
[20:03] <xnox> jjohansen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1678184
[20:03] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1678184 in linux (Ubuntu) "APST quirk needed for Samsung 512GB NVMe drive" [Medium,Confirmed]
[20:04] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1678184/comments/44
[20:04] <xnox> jjohansen, there was an update that enabled power management....
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