[00:01] <zealsham_> why setting up ssh as hard as rocket science
[00:05] <ab5ni> Could someone please tell my where I can find info on what files and packages have been updated recently.
[00:05] <ab5ni> A in "sudo apt update". I need to find out if my system has been compromised.
[00:07] <YankDownUnder> ab5ni, If you wish to "test" your system for compromise, do: sudo apt-get install rkhunter => this will install "root kit hunter" - it will update itself and check your system. Personally, I highly doubt you would have any issues with a compromise - however, stranger things have happened...
[00:08] <oerheks> USN site gives info about latest cve fixes
[00:08] <oerheks> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[00:17] <zerothis> well, after a more complete investigation, I realize that xwiimote takes my controller options out of the hands of cwiid devs who have no longer update cwiid but have otherwise never bothered me and into the hands of Xorg devs who have given me over 20 years of grief. Also xwiimote is complete only for developers & not end users. So, back to cwiid.
[00:21] <gantlforra> 123
[00:35] <zealsham_> why does ssh fails to connect to upstart in ubuntu 16
[00:44] <fou> hello
[00:51] <fou> clear
[00:52] <implite> !ot
[00:55] <sasaw> what are some reasons to upgrade to 17.04?
[00:55] <implite> !17.04
[00:55] <fou> hello
[00:55] <cold744> heyo
[00:56] <fou> i am trying to figure out a way to install the GNS3 v 2.0 on an ubuntu serer... anyone have a good guide that i can start off with or anyone has any experence iwth that
[00:56] <fou> with*
[00:56] <implite> !gns3
[00:57] <fou> yes
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> GNS3? Hmm...I shan't Google that...
[00:57] <implite> !ubuntu server
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> You might want to ask in #ubuntu-server => folks that have more experience with server related issues live in there...
[00:57] <anon_> hi guys, i use built-in audio with ubuntu 16.04 and i hear something like feedback noises through my headphone
[00:58] <fou> i would like to have 16.04 as a container of all of my cisco iso but I am hitting a wall remoting to it so i am wondering if anyone has any experence
[00:58] <anon_> i there any free audio card driver that i can install instead of using built-in?
[00:59] <fou> the box is running on an xenserver and im trying to have it run on that enviorment
[00:59] <YankDownUnder> fou, Truly a question to ask in #ubuntu-server
[00:59] <lucas-arg> using kubuntu, is it ok to use 16.04 or its better to use 17.04?
[00:59] <fou> environment*
[00:59] <fou> sorry if my spelling is off
[00:59] <implite> feedback noises? are you sure that you dont have your microphone active anon_
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> lucas-arg, 16.04 is an LTS version - 17.04 is intermediate...(in between)...the support for LTS versions is obviously long...and support is vastly more "solid"
[01:00] <anon_> implite: i don't have any problem with windows 10 with my headphone? if it is my mic how can i disable it?
[01:00] <fou> YankDownUnder is that the first time you have hurd of GNS#
[01:00] <fou> GNS3
[01:01] <YankDownUnder> anon_, If you can't fix the settings in the Control Center - for your audio - you can open a terminal and try: pavucontrol
[01:01] <fou> is this more of a chat for ubuntu Desktop ?
[01:01] <YankDownUnder> fou, Yes...first time...that being said, since it's the first time I've heard of it, it's apparently not my cuppa tea, hmm...
[01:02] <fou> o ok
[01:02] <fou> thank you YankDownUnder
[01:02] <YankDownUnder> fou, Peace and blessings
[01:02] <fou> GNS3 is basicly VM's ciso hardware ... YankDownUnder Peace and blessings as well ... I will just figure it out ...
[01:03] <implite> !gns
[01:03] <implite> nope sorry
[01:04] <Guest95901> Jum
[01:04] <anon_> implite: i had muted input for my headphone in sound, but i keeps making the noise
[01:05] <anon_> isn't there any audio driver that i can install?
[01:05] <YankDownUnder> anon_, Unplug the device...wait a few seconds, plug the device back it.
[01:06] <YankDownUnder> anon_, Did you try using "pavucontrol" in a terminal?
[01:06] <anon_> yes i did
[01:07] <implite> did you do the unplug thing?
[01:07] <implite> wait and plug back in
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> anon_, If anything - you can also look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:09] <implite> does it make the feedback all the time or does it come and go? Also are you using usb headset or phonejack?
[01:09] <implite> speakers?
[01:11] <implite> !sound
[01:12] <Pathur> How might i navigate this GRUB obstacle? https://i.imgur.com/MPJMys5.jpg  it was with an older Ubuntu installation, 14 I think, had some big problem and file system went into read only mode too, can still view partitions from a live cd/usb , some directories have switched to being plain text files now, some have configuration data in them.. all strange, some boot repair info here https://pastebin.com/tnMz86QN  sda1 is the problem
[01:13] <implite> !grub
[01:14] <raffs> hello!
[01:14] <implite> hi
[01:15] <raffs> Does anyone here use ubuntu on dell inspiron 3147?
[01:15] <implite> what is your issue with it?
[01:15] <raffs> sometimes the system freezes
[01:16] <frugil> hello
[01:16] <implite> hi
[01:16] <Pathur> yeah it wasnt after a windows installation and a lot of the GRUB2 troubleshooting docs mention commands that arent available in my grub command line.. must be older version?
[01:16] <raffs> i have to force poweroff
[01:16] <YankDownUnder> raffs, And you've done all your updates/upgrades to the system - yes?
[01:17] <bazhang> !info gns3 | fou
[01:17] <implite> ahh nice
[01:17] <implite> why did it find it with info?
[01:18] <bazhang> implite, /msg ubottu in future
[01:18] <marco__> raffs, I have an Inspiron 3421. It freezes sometimes. About once every 3 or 4 months. Has been like since I bought it. Never cared too much about it
[01:18] <raffs> Whole system freezes, no terminal, no ctrl+alt+del... nothing works! i have to force shutdown by holding the power button
[01:19] <YankDownUnder> raffs, ...and you've done all the updates/upgrades, yes?
[01:19] <raffs> yes, i have done all updates including drivers and microcode
[01:19] <YankDownUnder> raffs, Coollbeans - you covered the "microcode" schmutz - that was next on my list...
[01:19] <YankDownUnder> raffs, What DE/WM are you using? (Desktop/window manager)
[01:21] <raffs> some stackoverflow users reported that it was a problem on kerne 4.4 and suggested to upgrade the kernel to 4.8 but the freezes persists
[01:21] <implite> what are the specs of the machine?
[01:21] <raffs> i using xfce
[01:21] <implite> how much ram
[01:21] <raffs> i`m
[01:21] <raffs> 8GB ram
[01:21] <YankDownUnder> Ok...XFce and still a freeze...far out...
[01:22] <zealsham_> if two machines r connected on the same wifi how do u ssh into one them from the other
[01:22] <implite> !ssh
[01:22] <YankDownUnder> raffs, In going through the logfiles - have you found ANYTHING similar at the points of "freeze"? Like checked "power" settings and all that lovely jazz?
[01:22] <vadert> !ops can help please
[01:23] <vadert> !ops
[01:24] <elky> vadert: do you actually have a problem or are you just hitting all the channels you can find?
[01:25] <implite> he doesn't ask his question for help...
[01:26] <dax> vadert: Don't do that, please, it's only for emergencies. Ask your actual question :)
[01:27] <raffs> i think that its not related to the windowmanager nor the distro because the freezing stuff happened with arch linux + kde too!
[01:27] <implite> you should check your memory
[01:28] <YankDownUnder> raffs, For one of the "clients" I had to work through issues with how the laptop was dealing with the power/hibernation/suspend stuff...same thing - we tried different WM's but it ended up being "power" related...
[01:28] <implite> ramscan
[01:28] <implite> or what is is X86memory or something
[01:28] <implite> sec
[01:28] <kk4ewt> most distro usb isos have memtest86
[01:28] <raffs> i tried the kdump tools but the system locks up very fast and I cannot get any log
[01:29] <Pathur> hm
[01:29] <raffs> already done the memory test
[01:29] <raffs> its all ok
[01:30] <implite> ok its on the cd
[01:30] <YankDownUnder> raffs, Whoa....well, that kinda narrows things down...looking through what kernel mods are loaded...hmm...if dumping the kernel freaks the system out...
[01:30] <implite> i cant remember the name of it lol
[01:30] <YankDownUnder> implite, Age is creeping up on ya, bud... :)
[01:31] <implite> !memory
[01:31] <bazhang> implite, /msg ubottu
[01:32] <Bashing-om> raffs: Had similar issue . Do you have nVidia for graphics ?
[01:32] <raffs> hahaha! a stackoverflow user told to add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_idle.max_cstate=1" to grub defaults and that seems to stop the problem, anyone can explain?
[01:32] <raffs> no, I dont have nvidia card
[01:33] <DeaDSouL> Hi, if I click on hide disk in the dolphin sidebar... how can I un-hide it ?
[01:33] <raffs> its a intel express or something like
[01:34] <zealsham_> what i.p should i use for ssh
[01:36] <implite> Memtest86
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | zealsham_
[01:37] <implite> dang i was going nuts trying to remember the name lol
[01:37] <implite> I did that for him before but i guess that didnt help him
[01:41] <zealsham_> no help
[01:43] <implite> ok do you know how to use Traceroute
[01:43] <implite> to find your ip that you are looking for?
[01:44] <YankDownUnder> If you know the IP address of the second machine, that helps bigtime. Otherwise, establishing an SSH link is, well, useless...if you're using DHCP for each machine, you have to know the IP of the destination machine...which you can find ON the target machine - or in the DHCP/MAC pool on the router.
[01:46] <ce-ngangkang> Looking for a girl to sell me her used panties. And fedez them to me on the next-day. I pay well.
[01:46] <bintang`> Looking for a girl to sell me her used panties. And fedez them to me on the next-day. I pay well.
[01:47] <raffs> bye!
[02:02]  * pynki missed a business oportunity :/
[02:04] <pynki> zealsham_, can you tell what exactly your problem is or at least what you want or trying to do?
[02:05] <zealsham_> pynki:  am trying to set up ssh between two machines
[02:05] <Phanes> zealsham_, you just point ssh at the target machine
[02:05] <zealsham_> no sucess for the past 5 hours
[02:05] <Phanes> yikes
[02:06] <zealsham_> i did that but nothing happens
[02:06] <pynki> you knwo the user/ip address ofthe target machine?
[02:06] <Pathur> kind of problem that will teach you patience, by force
[02:06] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: What did you do and what results did you get?
[02:06] <pynki> zealsham_, you have physical access to to target machine or is it something in the "cloud" or somewhere else?
[02:07] <zealsham_> pynki: yes i do since the two machines are connected on the same wifi
[02:07] <pynki> zealsham_, whats the ip of the target machine?
[02:08] <zealsham_> pynki:  i have physical acess, my main aim is to set up a git server but thats not possible without ssh
[02:08] <Phanes> yes it is
[02:08] <zealsham_> the ip is 197.211.56.22
[02:08]  * pynki wonders if there is a bot that can record these facts for anyone to recall once they are in the open
[02:09] <Phanes> zealsham_, so on the machine you to connect to thaat server, type `ssh 197.211.56.22`
[02:09] <zealsham_> i did that but nothing happens
[02:09] <Phanes> i doubt "nothing" happens
[02:09] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: Unless your router is what you're trying to connect to via SSH, you'll need the internal IP address of the SSH server.
[02:09] <pynki> ok. 'ping 192.168.56.22' works? whats the output of 'nmap 192.168.56.22' ? (sudo apt-get install nmap)
[02:09] <Phanes> its not a 192.168
[02:10] <pynki> oha
[02:10] <pynki> sorry, replace the ip iwrote withthe actual ip :D
[02:10] <Phanes> zealsham_, instead type `telnet 197.211.56.22 22`
[02:10] <Phanes> and tell me what happens
[02:10] <zealsham_> ChaiTRex: how do i get internal ip
[02:10] <pynki> nmap the machine first to see if the port for ssh is even open
[02:11] <zealsham_> Phanes:  okay
[02:11] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: On the SSH server, run ifconfig.
[02:11] <Phanes> ohh, yeah, he's using external IP
[02:11] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: On the non-loopback interface, look at "inet address"
[02:11] <pynki> nice how we try it from 3-4 different angles :D
[02:11]  * pynki will shut up
[02:12] <Phanes> ~zealsham_@197.211.56.22
[02:14] <zealsham_> 10.0.2.15
[02:14] <zealsham_> ChaiTRex: that is it
[02:14] <ChaiTRex> On the SSH server, try `ssh 127.0.0.1`
[02:14] <ChaiTRex> See if the SSH server is really running SSH or not.
[02:15] <ChaiTRex> If it asks for your password, then, on the other computer, try `ssh username@10.0.2.15` where `username` is your username on the SSH server.
[02:15] <zealsham_> it says authentication for host 12.0.0.1 cant be established
[02:15] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: Make sure that's 127.0.0.1, not 12.0.0.1.
[02:16] <zealsham_> ChaiTRex:  yes i did 127.0.0.1
[02:16] <Kyoku> would this prevent booting?  i can't boot but if i go into recovery mode i can -- May  6 22:10:31 viper kernel: [   26.781255] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[02:16] <Kyoku> May  6 22:10:31 viper kernel: [   26.781260] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[02:16] <Kyoku> May  6 22:10:31 viper kernel: [   26.781261] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[02:16] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: In that case, on the server, run `netstat -ant | fgrep 22`. See if it lists anything.
[02:16] <Phanes> zealsham_, does this return anything?  `netstat -lnt | grep :22`
[02:17] <zealsham_> it says no authentication and something else about ecdsa key fingerprint
[02:17] <Phanes> its up and listening
[02:17] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: Say yes to the key fingerprint.
[02:17] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: See if it asks for your password.
[02:18] <pynki> Pahes -p22 would do the job too
[02:20] <zealsham_> the previous command said "permanently added 127.0.0.1 to the list of known host
[02:22] <zealsham_> ChaiTRex: you here?
[02:22] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: That's good. Now enter your password if it asks and then see if you get a shell prompt.
[02:25] <zealsham_> no password, just dispatch_protocol_error
[02:31] <zealsham_> chaiTRex: netstat list tcp and tcp6
[02:37] <zealsham_> i give up on this ssh thing
[02:37] <zealsham_> its 3:47AM m going to bed
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | zealsham_ its all explained here
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> zealsham_: read before you do something
[02:38] <zealsham_> lotuspsychje: ave read man, still nothing works
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> zealsham_: the machines got a client and ssh server?
[02:39] <zealsham_> yes
[02:39] <zealsham_> they do
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> zealsham_: check the #openssh channel
[02:42] <CorsairX> He all
[02:43] <CorsairX> I have a question about running Ubuntu Server on a software mirror
[02:43] <pynki> CorsairX, go on..
[02:43] <CorsairX> I had originally planned to run a hardware mirror but the server I have purchased, a Dell T130, has a PERC S130 card
[02:44] <CorsairX> Which only support hardware raid when running Windows
[02:44] <CorsairX> I have followed the guide here to configure the software raid
[02:44] <CorsairX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[02:44] <CorsairX> And the installer is currently running
[02:45] <CorsairX> Per the guide, I created pairs of partitions, one for the EFI partition, one for / and one for swap
[02:45] <CorsairX> But I'm wondering if I actually should have put the swap into mirror?
[02:48] <pynki> is it a raid 1 or 10?
[02:48] <CorsairX> Raid 1
[02:52] <pynki> so you have mirrored the efi part too? wouldn't recommend that. swap is on you. it might speed up things or not
[02:54] <CorsairX> Hmmm, I wasn't sure about the EFI partition
[02:54] <CorsairX> I've never tangled with a software raid before, what's the potential issue with having the EFI partition in mirror?
[02:55] <pynki> booting the system
[02:57] <pagios> hello, sudoedit is always prompting me for my password how can i make it automatic? i am calling it usind sudoedit /etc/myfile
[02:57] <pagios> my sudo -l reads (root) NOPASSWD: sudoedit /etc/myfile
[02:58] <CorsairX> Hmmm, well, I'll find out in a minute...
[02:59] <pynki> pagios, echo myPassword | sudo -S yourCommand
[03:01] <pagios> pynki, i dont have sudo i have sudoedit
[03:01] <pagios> in sudo l-l
[03:01] <pagios> -l
[03:01] <beaver_> ImportError: No module named 'supybot.utils'
[03:01] <beaver_> ImportError: No module named 'supybot.utils'
[03:01] <beaver_> oops sorry
[03:01] <pynki> pagios, echo myPassword | sudo -S -e yourCommand
[03:01] <pynki> read the manpage for sudo
[03:01] <pagios> pynki, you are inputing myPassword here
[03:01] <pagios> no way to not ask for it?
[03:02] <pynki> you input your apssword instead of myPassword
[03:02] <pynki> lets say your apssword 1234 then the command looks like this: echo 1234| sudo -S -e /file/you/want/to/edit
[03:03] <pynki> -S          The -S (stdin) option causes sudo to read the password from
[03:03] <pynki>                 the standard input instead of the terminal device.
[03:05] <PipeItToDevNull> I have a messy EFI boot entry table from multiple dual boots and reinstalls. If I remove all but my Ubuntu entry (The CD and network entries) will they be re-added at next boot?
[03:05] <pynki> pagios, or you can do this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password but i consider doing that stupid
[03:05] <CorsairX> Well, had to manually add the EFI parition to Dell's EFI manager but seems to be coming up ok
[03:07] <pynki> PipeItToDevNull, clean it with this tool http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/efibootmgr.8.html
[03:07] <PipeItToDevNull> pynki, I understand how to remove and add entries. My question is whether the CD and network entries will be re-added
[03:08] <pynki> how do they come there in the first place?
[03:08] <Cr4zko> Ubuntu can run! And It will run, and disappear?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Cr4zko
[03:17] <CorsairX> hey pynki - looks like having the EFI in mirror is ok
[03:17] <CorsairX> Will let you know if anything pops, but it's survived a couple of restarts without issue so hopefully ok
[03:18] <Kyoku> any ideas how to fix this? http://codepad.org/3hwPlaqX
[03:20] <Sparrow__> Lets se what you are working with..   do this for us..  inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[03:23] <dmitrii_> 77777
[03:23] <Sparrow__> !find cuda
[03:24] <andrewmatt> I have a question and hope someone could help me. I'm using Ubuntu 17.04 and my logitech M570 Wireless Trackball mouse keeps double clicking with one click. If I try to drag and drop it cancels out. The mouse works fine in Windows, Debian, but with this version of Ubuntu it's completely failing. Anyone know a fix?
[03:25] <Sparrow__> thats the same thing I have here..  this is mint
[03:26] <Sparrow__> works fine
[03:27] <Kyoku> wasn't sure if you were asking me for this info or someone else Sparrow__ http://codepad.org/hudHlcaQ but here it is
[03:27] <andrewmatt> If I connect it to my Raspberry Pi it works fine. If I use my Windows partition it works fine. I don't know what's going on
[03:28] <Kyoku> basically i install nvidia-304 and signed it because of secure boot, but it won't boot anymore unless i go to recovery mode first
[03:29] <Kyoku> when it does boot, after recovery mode it seems to work ok
[03:30] <andrewmatt> Anyone?
[03:31] <Sparrow__> is touchpad disabled in bios?
[03:31] <andrewmatt> yes
[03:31] <Sparrow__> k
[03:32] <Sparrow__> Kyoku, why did you use that ppa, what was the previous problem
[03:33] <Kyoku> the problem was after installing desktop it wasn't using proprietary drivers and performance was awful so i tried to install nvidia ones
[03:34] <Sparrow__> Kyoku, yep, sorry I cant help with that
[03:34] <Kyoku> when i say awful i mean scoring 444 on glmark2 and with the nvidia drivers it gets over 3.3k
[03:35] <Kyoku> what's the libcuda stuff mean?
[03:35] <Kyoku> maybe 304 is wrong version?
[03:35] <Kyoku> !find cuda
[03:36] <sasaw> why did 17.04 switch to swap file from swap partition? What is so good about swap file?
[03:36] <Ben64> doesn't need a partition
[03:36] <Kyoku> they wanted to be like Microsoft
[03:36] <sasaw> Kyoku: windows have been using swap files all along?
[03:37] <Kyoku> they call it a paging file, same thing
[03:38] <sasaw> Kyoku: If it ain't broke, why fix it? why change to swap file?
[03:39] <Ben64> it's easier than having a partition
[03:39] <Sparrow__> ram costs are not like they used to be, swap used less and less. seldom on mine at all
[03:40] <Sparrow__> Even if it is not quite as good, it works
[03:41] <Sparrow__> and Im not saying it isnt better, just diminishing need
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[03:46] <Sparrow__> I ought to write a bot and kick people that never contribute but are the first to trigger the other bots..
[03:47] <pynki> Sparrow__, could solve the guys freeze problems tonight?
[03:48] <Sparrow__> He left to try and did not hear back.
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Sparrow__: this is not a chat channel, follow the rules like everyone else
[03:48] <Sparrow__> I always do.
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Kyoku: Let's match the card to the correct driver . pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[03:49] <farrell> hi
[03:50] <farrell> anyonr there
[03:50] <Sparrow__> Yes farrell
[03:51] <farrell> im runing bacbbox and im lost
[03:51] <farrell> im hacked also
[03:51] <Ben64> farrell: the support channel for backbox is #backbox on irc.autistici.org
[03:51] <Kyoku> Bashing-om http://codepad.org/O74X90ut
[03:52] <farrell> trying my best remove them
[03:52] <farrell> can anyone guide me
[03:52] <Ben64> farrell: the support channel for backbox is #backbox on irc.autistici.org
[03:53] <farrell> ok
[03:53] <Sparrow__> farrell, We cant help you here.. sorry
[03:53] <farrell> but does anyone know about backbox 4.4
[03:54] <Sparrow__> Not the right place to ask.. and no one answered when you did twice
[03:55] <farrell> sparrow how do i join that chat room
[03:55] <Connor> Hello.  I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04. ( I tried 16.04, but had some issues with VMWare taking away unity and not able to run v11 vs 12.5 so I went to 14.04).  Anyway.. in 12.04 my mouse has a scroll wheel, and I could push left for page down or push right for page up (on the wheel itself.. not scrolling) and it would advance up/down a few lines.  I can't get that to work in 14.04.
[03:56] <Connor> I have no idea how it worked in 12.04, if I installed something, or if it worked out of the box..
[03:56] <Bashing-om> Kyoku: nVidia recommends the 375 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us . ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[03:57] <Kyoku> crikey, thanks Bashing-om
[03:57] <Sparrow__> Nice
[03:57] <Kyoku> he should work for the NSA
[03:57] <Kyoku> or maybe he does!
[04:00] <Sparrow__> !logs
[04:13] <Sparrow__> !find python
[04:13] <Sparrow__> !find python3
[04:26] <Capable98> https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/causes-of-eyestrain-on-monitors/page/16/
[04:26] <Capable98> He says when he puts his monitor to 200 Hz refresh using xrandr that his eye strain goes way down.
[04:26] <Capable98> Can this damage the monitor?/
[04:31] <kostkon> Capable98, I really doubt you can force a lcd monitor to go above its specs
[04:33] <Capable98> "6) I unplugged from the BenQ for the evening. I run linux, and I’ve been using xrandr to bump up the refresh rate on the Latitude, and 200Hz feels much, **much** better on my eyes than 60Hz (yes, the Windows install hurts my eyes just as much or more, since I’ve made several adjustments to fonts and font smoothing on this partition)."
[04:34] <Capable98> 200Hz feels much, **much** better to him, so it makes me curious if I'd benefit from that as well.
[04:36] <kostkon> Capable98, a latitude laptop that has a screen that supports 200Mhz? When did that come out? As we speak probably only a handful of really expensive gaming laptops support that kind of luxury for the eyes (and fps gaming...)
[04:37] <monty_hall> omg, my old external drive was formats (I think) w/ ext4 + luks
[04:37] <monty_hall> plug into my ubuntu 17 machine.  hasn't a clue what it is.
[04:37] <ronin_anubis> Hi, Can't I install Ubuntu to a USB and boot from it with persistence, instead of live CD (and trying to customize it which is failing for me so far) ? Any downsides to this approach?
[04:37] <monty_hall> funny you should I ask.  just installed on my thumb drive - horrible speed
[04:37] <Capable98> kostkon, why is 60 hz still standard if he says he notices a big diff using 200 hz?
[04:37] <monty_hall> just a few hours ago.
[04:39] <ronin_anubis> I can get the 150MB/s USB 3.0 flash so speed won't be a major concern.
[04:41] <pynki> Capable98, because they are cheaper
[04:41] <ronin_anubis> I just want to add more packages than what's in the live CD and can't do that, so thinking about installing to a USB but not sure if there're any downsides to it
[04:42] <kostkon> Capable98, I have no idea, but regardless of what this person is claiming to have achieven with that laptop you need to have a monitor that supports 200Mhz at its native resolution.
[04:42] <Capable98> kostkon, The BenQ apparently does.
[04:42] <Capable98> kostkon, So the monitor needs to support it and also the computer?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | ronin_anubis
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> ronin_anubis: booting from usb though, will bottleneck your Os
[04:44] <pynki> Capable98, read this http://www.avadirect.com/blog/frame-rate-fps-vs-hz-refresh-rate/
[04:45] <kostkon> Capable98, a lot of gaming monitors can go up to 240Mhz. And you probably a need a good graphics card as well.
[04:46] <pynki> and a proper conenction!
[04:48] <pynki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_display_connectors
[04:49] <pynki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison
[04:49] <ronin_anubis> lotuspsychje, downloaded uck .deb package but I get errors trying to install on Ubuntu 16. and the project's page says discontinued. Is there any similar newer tools ? I'm planning to use this  just as an emergency OS but with custom packages
[04:49] <pynki> ronin_anubis, if you want to use a install on the usb stick on another computer as installed for you might run into problems
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> ronin_anubis: install from terminal, sudo apt install uck
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> ronin_anubis: there are many emergency Os liveusb out there, ready for your wishes also
[04:52] <ronin_anubis> lotuspsychje, I get errors when I install from terminal "gfxboot (< 4.2.2) but it is not going to be installed". What other emergency live usb OSs ?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ronin_anubis: you added ppa's on your system of any kind? what kind of emergency do you need? antivirus?
[04:54] <Blankspace> How can I connect my ubuntu to hotspot
[04:55] <ronin_anubis> lotuspsychje, I wanted to add stuff like eclipse, netbeans, QT, ddd, meld, git and vnc
[04:55] <oerheks> ronin_anubis, uck is a dead project, afaik , try cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[04:55] <ronin_anubis> lotuspsychje, didn't add any ppas
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ronin_anubis: yeah for apps like that, better create a live ubuntu yourself then, check oerheks suggestion
[04:57] <ronin_anubis> oerheks, lotuspsychje Ok thank you. I'll check cubic
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[05:04] <cfhowlett> yowza ^3 lotuspsychje
[05:12] <Rihannsu> hello, im trying to set up a vpn connection from a vps using ubuntu server 16.04, what is the simplest way to accomplish this. I've tried openvpn and cant get the dns resolver to work and pptpd wont connect period. I have been slaving at this all day any help would be greatly appriciated.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Rihannsu: the #ubuntu-server guys might be able to help you better
[05:14] <Rihannsu> thanks
[05:18] <Blankspace> Hi how do I connect to wifi network
[05:18] <Blankspace> On ubuntu
[05:20] <zzarr> Hello
[05:21] <zzarr> Is there a way to install desktop Ubuntu on an x86 based Android tablet?
[05:22] <zzarr> I have a ASUS Zenpad Z300C (P023)
[05:25] <byeezi> zzarr yes, but it's not easy. The thing that is a pain is installing 32-bit grub on a 64-bit iso
[05:26] <zzarr> I need grub?
[05:26] <zzarr> I can't launch the kernel using uboot?
[05:26] <byeezi> That's the way I did it.
[05:26] <byeezi> grub that is
[05:27] <zzarr> is there a guide?
[05:27] <byeezi> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=300
[05:27] <byeezi> That's my guide. Also follow the links
[05:28] <byeezi> in the show notes
[05:28] <zzarr> thanks
[05:28] <byeezi> n[
[05:28] <byeezi> np
[05:28] <zzarr> Is there something I should think about like the Mali GPU drivers are hard to install or WiFi or anything?
[05:29] <byeezi> O dpm
[05:29] <zzarr> ??
[05:30] <byeezi> I don't know about the GPU, but the wifi is a part of my guide. I have a X205a eebook, but a lot of the same other parts
[05:30] <zzarr> nice
[05:31] <byeezi> yeah I found it on NewEgg for $149 open box
[05:31] <zzarr> I think I will be able to get the GPU upp and running myself, I just wondered if there were an easy way
[05:32] <byeezi> The sound doesn't work on mine (Realtek audio), but I'm still on 16.04
[05:33] <zzarr> sound isn't important to me
[05:33] <byeezi> I only use it for email and vim, so doesn't bother me
[05:33] <zzarr> :D
[05:36] <Skuzzzy> Just installed 17.04, going to downgrade to 16.04, as I'm having sound and wifi issues
[05:37] <Skuzzzy> My onboard speakers on my laptop sometimes dissapear from the sound thing (and will no longer play sounds), and wifi just cuts out randomly and has issues coming back on when it cuts
[05:47] <zzarr> bynarie, my tablet comes with Android
[05:48] <zzarr> is there a guide for how to install Ubuntu on a fastboot device?
[05:54] <fagooot> hi you fucking faggot nigger bitch cunt ass penis
[06:07] <pagios> sudoedit can be run without supplying the current username's password?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> pagios, sudo will need a pass
[06:14] <segersjerry> how do I remove a ppa in ubuntu gnome?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !ppapurge | segersjerry
[06:14] <segersjerry> many thanks cfhowlett :)
[06:15] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:17] <pagios> cfhowlett, tomty89, yea so even with nopassword it asks for a password i need it not to ask forthe current user password
[06:29] <auronandace>  pagios: why would you want any normal user to be able to edit the sudoers file without authenticating first? That is asking for trouble. Any random script would be able to modify that file then.
[06:30] <pagios> yes
[06:30] <pagios> i want that
[06:30] <Ben64> you want literally anyone to be able to do anything on your system?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> is this YOUR system, pagios?
[06:34] <pagios> ya
[06:35] <ducasse> pagios: are you really that lazy that you can't type a password now and then?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> pagios, use sudo -i    if you must
[06:48] <Phanes> just edit your sudoers file with visudo to not require password for members of a specific group
[06:49] <Phanes> this is a solved problem and is no less secure than having a local key stored
[06:49] <Pathur> problem, or justified security measure
[06:50] <Phanes> not really
[06:50] <Pathur> There's a post on the Unix site of stackexchange debating just that actually
[06:51] <Phanes> putting users in groups is hard
[06:52] <nncake789> test
[06:52] <auronandace> nncake789: you can also use #test
[06:53] <nncake789> thk
[07:10] <bleh> g
[07:32] <hans_> Hello! Guys, What do u think of Ubuntu17.04?
[07:32] <Ben64> it's definitely the newest release of ubuntu
[07:33] <cfhowlett> hans_, doesn't . what we think.  YOUR machine should have the tools YOU need. download and test 17.04 for yourself.
[07:33] <nugroho> xine and subtitle
[08:04] <zealsham_> when i run 'ifconfig' i see inet addr, bcast,mask. which of them is my public ip
[08:05] <spider_x> zealsham_: are you behind a router?
[08:06] <spider_x> If so, you will need to ping a website to show you your public IP (the one people can see when you visit their website)
[08:06] <spider_x> otherwise if you do ifconfig you will just get the IP given to you by the router
[08:10] <zealsham_> spider_x:  yes i am
[08:10] <ducasse> zealsham_: try something like https://www.whatismyip.com/
[08:11] <spider_x> or curl ipinfo.io/ip
[08:11] <spider_x> if you want to keep it in the terminal.
[08:12] <zealsham_> spider_x:  i ran curl ipinfo.io/ip and it gave me a certain i.p
[08:12] <zealsham_> the two linux machine connected to the same wifi router gave their i.p adresses to be the same thing
[08:12] <ducasse> zealsham_: they are behind the same public ip, using nat
[08:13] <zealsham_> so hw do i ssh into one from the other
[08:14] <Ben64> ssh <ip>
[08:14] <zealsham_> i have ssh server and client installed
[08:15] <ducasse> zealsham_: if you are behind nat you don't want the public ip for that
[08:15] <zealsham_> whats nat ,sorry
[08:16] <ducasse> zealsham_: you just want the address assigned to the machine by the router
[08:19] <zealsham_> ducasse: still wont work after that
[08:20] <ducasse> !doesntwork | zealsham_
[08:21] <zealsham_> ducasse: i cant ssh into the other machine using the i.p the router gave it
[08:21] <ducasse> zealsham_: what happens when you try? can you ping it?
[08:21] <zealsham_> it shows nothing
[08:24] <zealsham_> ducasse:  it doesnt ask for passworld or anything
[08:24] <tyriondwarf> hi have an issue in ubuntu 16
[08:24] <tyriondwarf> I get failure of name resolution
[08:24] <Ben64> zealsham_: put the entire output and command into paste.ubuntu.com and show us what happens
[08:24] <ducasse> zealsham_: again, can you ping it?
[08:24] <tyriondwarf> have to always restart networking service
[08:24] <tyriondwarf> upon server boot
[08:25] <zealsham_> how do i ping with terminal
[08:25] <ducasse> 'ping <ip>'
[08:25] <tyriondwarf> ping yahoo.com
[08:26] <rodrigot23> has anybody here ever used kodi before?
[08:26] <ducasse> rodrigot23: ask your actual question
[08:27] <rodrigot23> the question is compl;icated because you have to have knowledge of the program before use!
[08:27] <zealsham_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24529076/
[08:27] <Ben64> rodrigot23: just ask the actual question
[08:27] <cfhowlett> rodrigot23, this aint' 20 questions and we're not telepaths.  state your issues
[08:28] <tyriondwarf> anyone have idea why i need to 'sudo service networking restart' on each time I boot up my ubuntu VM?  noticed it happened after install nginx then disable it and use apache again
[08:28] <rodrigot23> okay here we go then i just dont want to confuse you guys
[08:28] <Ben64> zealsham_: that's not your internal ip
[08:28] <zealsham_> ducasse: after pinging it says ,41 packets transmited ,none recieved
[08:28] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: when your VM comes up, does it have a valid network address/config
[08:28] <zealsham_> Ben64:  it is the ip assigned by the router
[08:29] <ducasse> zealsham_: how did you get that address?
[08:29] <tyriondwarf> ikonia: i have it set as static, my vhost websites work
[08:29] <Ben64> zealsham_: it shouldn't be
[08:29] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: your vhost website works....then it's on the network, what's the problem
[08:29] <Ben64> zealsham_: use paste.ubuntu.com again and show the output of "ifconfig" from both computers
[08:29] <rodrigot23> ben64 can i just show you a photo of my problem
[08:30] <ducasse> rodrigot23: if you can't just explain it
[08:30] <Ben64> rodrigot23: i'm really close to not caring
[08:30] <zealsham_> ducasse: i ran curl ipinfo.io/ip
[08:30] <rodrigot23> its complicated becaue it has steps
[08:30] <tyriondwarf> ikonia: Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'   when updating, but my vhosts are served fine...so weird
[08:30] <Ben64> zealsham_: that's your external ip, not internal. if you want to ssh between two different computers on a local network, you need to use internal ips
[08:30] <tyriondwarf> have to restart networking every time
[08:30] <tyriondwarf> how can I check for errors
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: so you have a dns problem geting a specific repo
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: that shouldn't be networking restart
[08:31] <zealsham_> i coudnt ping the my internal i.p for the machine i want to ssh into. it said 'destination not reachable
[08:31] <Ben64> zealsham_: whats the internal ip
[08:31] <tyriondwarf> ikonia: its not specific, all update repos are blocked, and cant browse with browser
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: you need to look at what dns servers are being used and why that is having a problem resolving that address
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: then look at what/if anything changes after your networking restack
[08:31] <ducasse> rodrigot23: please just get to the point
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: ok - so you have a problem with a dns service
[08:31] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: there is your problem, you need to address that, rather than restart networking
[08:32] <zealsham_> Ben64: 10.0.2.15
[08:32] <tyriondwarf> dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[08:32] <tyriondwarf> dns-nameservers 2620:0:ccc::2 2620:0:ccd::2   <--- ipv6
[08:33] <Ben64> zealsham_: ok so try ssh 10.0.2.15
[08:33] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: I don't need to see your dns servers
[08:33] <ikonia> tyriondwarf: you need to look at what dns servers you're using and work through the problem
[08:34] <zealsham_> Ben64:  i did that and nothing happens, the cursor on my console just keeps blinking
[08:34] <Ben64> zealsham_: then you probably got a firewall or two stopping you
[08:35] <rodrigot23> i get a playback error whern i follow the steps here http://kodicommunity.com/how-to-install-the-wwe-network-on-kodi/
[08:35] <rodrigot23> sorry i was trying to find the link
[08:35] <ikonia> "a playback error" ?
[08:36] <zealsham_> Ben64: what do i do about that
[08:36] <Ben64> zealsham_: talk to whoever owns the network i suppose
[08:36] <rodrigot23> ikonia they say the log captures ever5ything i went to it but its gibberish
[08:36] <ikonia> rodrigot23: so you're using a 3rd party plugin to talk to a 3rd party content provider, it errors and you don't understand the log ?
[08:37] <ikonia> rodrigot23: is that a fair summary ?
[08:37] <rodrigot23> yes
[08:37] <rodrigot23> you got me thank god
[08:37] <ikonia> rodrigot23: so it would seem sensible to talk to the people who maintain/support the plugin
[08:37] <rodrigot23> its abandoned
[08:37] <ikonia> rodrigot23: ubuntus working, check, kodi's working, check, 3rd party plugins not working, check
[08:37] <ikonia> rodrigot23: ahh, so you're 3rd party plugin is also dead
[08:38] <rodrigot23> true
[08:38] <ikonia> rodrigot23: so therefore I'd talk to the kodi people to make sure their product will still support the technology that plugin is using
[08:38] <ducasse> rodrigot23: try #kodi
[08:38] <ikonia> I suspect they will just tell you "it's dead not our problem" but that would be your best action
[09:00] <surveyor3> Hello! I installed hugo via snap. How can I start it? If i use the command "hugo" to start it doesn't work. Is it something like "snap run hugo"?
[09:01] <bazhang> surveyor3, have you tried in #snappy
[09:02] <ducasse> surveyor3: snaps are supported by their developer
[09:02] <surveyor3> bazhang: nope, thank you!
[09:18] <dirk__> hallo
[09:30] <zealsham_> my ubuntu server can ping my client but my client cant ping ubuntu server 16.04
[09:37] <vlt> zealsham_: Congrats! (if that is what you wanted to achieve)
[09:38] <spider_x> zealsham_: any errors?
[09:38] <zealsham_> vlt: nice sarcasm , but thats not what i want
[09:40] <spider_x> also, you might wanna check your firewall settings on your servers, maybe it is setup to ignore ping requests
[09:40] <zealsham_> am running ubuntu server on a virtual box in windows , and i have another machine running ubuntu 14. the ubuntu server can ping my other linux but i cant ping the ubuntu server from my ubuntu 14.0.4
[09:40] <nu2linux> Can Grub be configured to boot  usb drives?
[09:41] <spider_x> Yes nu2linux
[09:41] <spider_x> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[09:59] <sim642> zealsham_, you need to configure virtualbox network adapter to be bridged or use port forwarding with the NAT mode to make the virtual server be reachable from outside network
[10:00] <zealsham_> sim642: done that,i used bridge adapter now i can acess it
[10:02] <zealsham_> sim642:  when i try to ssh into my server ,after putting up my password it says permission denied
[10:03] <sim642> /var/log/auth.log might give insight on the server why it was denied
[10:03] <zealsham_> sim642:  should i run that on the server or on my client
[10:03] <sim642> as I said, on the server
[10:04] <sim642> also, you don't exactly run it, it's just a log file
[10:05] <zealsham_> sim642: ave opened the log file
[10:05] <bookish> @find celestine prophesy
[10:06] <zealsham_> sim642:  what do i do with log file
[10:07] <sim642> you can read it, probably the end of it to see last login attempts with some additional information
[10:08] <zealsham_> sim642: it says session opened for user root (uid=0)
[10:15] <selsper> Having trouble installing a game
[10:15] <selsper> Somebody said it might be a graphics firmware issue
[10:16] <selsper> So I'm checking the website for the firmware, but I am in a bit of a confusion as to which download link I need
[10:16] <selsper> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/firmware
[10:19] <ducasse> selsper: trouble installing or trouble running?
[10:23] <zealsham_> ducasse: i can ssh into my server now using putty but i cant do so using commandline
[10:26] <selsper> ducasse: ty, trouble running
[10:26] <ducasse> selsper: do you get an error message?
[10:26] <sebsebseb> hi
[10:26] <hamdjan> hi
[10:26] <selsper> all I've been working with, is a client that shows only a black screen to me
[10:27] <hamdjan> how do i start squid in ubuntu 16.04 automatically on systemstart?
[10:27] <sebsebseb> hamdjan: hi
[10:27] <hamdjan> i tried `systemctl enable squid` but i get this error msg: squid.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install
[10:27] <hamdjan> Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable squid
[10:27] <selsper> I got minecraft working
[10:28] <hamdjan> hi sebsebseb
[10:28] <selsper> but runescape is just running wrong/ idk
[10:28] <hamdjan> basically my issue is that when i create my vm/droplet from a snapshot, squid is running but only beginning to work when i do `systemctl restart squid`
[10:28] <ducasse> selsper: where did you get runescape - the repos or from the runescape site?
[10:29] <sebsebseb> selsper: just joined, your trying to  run runespe in wine? I think that's a Wndows program ?
[10:29] <selsper> the website, I wasnt aware of the repos
[10:29] <selsper> ubuntu
[10:29] <sebsebseb> !repos
[10:29] <sebsebseb> selsper: unless your trying to Wine Windows software for example of course, then no, won't be in repos
[10:29] <ducasse> selsper: remove it and install from the repos, or ask the runescape people
[10:29]  * sebsebseb thought runescape was Windows game
[10:29] <selsper> ive asked the rs people
[10:30] <selsper> ive done a complete re-install of ubuntu
[10:30] <sebsebseb> !info runescape
[10:30] <sebsebseb> oh
[10:30] <mhahe> to get jedi completion on deoplete after pip installing all python packages. do i need to install vim plugins deoplete, deoplete-jedi, jedi-vim together?
[10:30] <zealsham_> hello, i can now ssh into my server using putty but when i try to do the same using the commandline it says permission denied
[10:30] <sebsebseb> selsper: should install from repos.  sudo apt-get install runescape
[10:31] <ducasse> sebsebseb: yes, but we don't support the packages you get from their site
[10:31] <sebsebseb> selsper: but your old one couold conflict
[10:31] <sebsebseb> since not from repos
[10:31] <selsper> righto
[10:31] <selsper> ill try that, brb
[10:31] <mhahe> I've tried #neovim #vim.. no one answer
[10:31] <sebsebseb> ducasse: indeed
[10:31] <sebsebseb> ducasse: or only partially maybe, but mostly to say to get repos version yep
[10:32] <selsper> How do I un-install something on ubuntu?
[10:32] <sebsebseb> selsper: ask ducasse :D
[10:32] <selsper> ducasse: ;d
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> selsper  if it was installed from the repos, use   sudo apt remove [package]
[10:32] <zealsham_> anyone bother to help
[10:32] <ducasse> selsper: did you add a repo?
[10:32] <sebsebseb> MonkeyDust: nope its a runesape not from repos
[10:33] <sebsebseb> !ask
[10:33] <sebsebseb> for you zealsham_
[10:33] <sebsebseb> oh yeah on la top so I can uhmm |
[10:33] <sebsebseb> !ask | zealsham_
[10:33]  * sebsebseb misses his Ubuntu tablet, away for repair, but not so simple, since certain hardware components all connected together
[10:34] <selsper>  sudo apt-get install runescape
[10:34] <selsper> opps
[10:34] <selsper> E: Unable to locate package runescape
[10:34] <zealsham_> sebsebseb: i can ssh into my server using putty but cant do so using linux commandline
[10:34] <hamdjan> basically i think systemd-sysv-install fails to start squid correctly, but how do i solve it? should write another service unit file to restart squid at the latest possible time?
[10:34] <sebsebseb> zealsham_: putty hmm
[10:34] <sebsebseb> zealsham_: that's for dealing with WIndowws, a old one, don't think its needed as such anymore, but I am not the best one to ask about ssh anyway
[10:35] <selsper> ducasse: what do you mean, when you ask, did you add a repo?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> selsper  try   locate runescape
[10:35] <sebsebseb> selsper: how did you install runesacpe off the site in other words
[10:35] <selsper> well i just removed it
[10:35] <selsper> https://pastebin.com/drGNURt9
[10:36] <ducasse> selsper: did you add a repo earlier?
[10:36] <selsper> when u posted that link?
[10:37] <selsper> I don't know, I might have added one trying to install it, but not to my knowledge
[10:38] <sebsebseb> sej]j]
[10:38] <sebsebseb> selsper: a ppa ?
[10:38] <selsper> i dnt think so
[10:39] <ducasse> selsper: according to that paste you did, you need to remove it. see if there are uninstall instructions on the runescape site
[10:39] <selsper> ugh
[10:39] <selsper> can u gimmie an hour, ill jst reinstall ubuntu again
[10:39] <sebsebseb> selsper: no need
[10:39] <sebsebseb> selsper: you won't learn like that to
[10:40] <selsper> well thats what the forums suggested
[10:40] <sebsebseb> selsper: it should be quite easy to remove something not from the offical repos in general
[10:40] <sebsebseb> as well
[10:40] <sebsebseb> selsper: especially with someone like ducasse trying to help you, who will know the commands better thAN i :D
[10:40] <selsper> where would that be located?
[10:41] <sebsebseb> selsper: if you installed from a totally random site, than yes  possibly re install, since potential malicious software, but otherwise probably don't need to really
[10:41] <sebsebseb> selsper: also it seems, you aren't sure, what repos, or ppas are, or if I put htis one in there  even, compiling from source?
[10:41] <sels-afk> brb
[10:42] <bazhang> !info runescape | sels-afk
[10:42] <bazhang> just install from repos sels-afk
[10:42] <sels-afk> cant do it right now, im multitasking as we speak
[10:50] <plesnut> Suddenly - I am just getting a blue screen with an ubuntu logo above a rat
[10:50] <plesnut> It's hdmi output from my laptop (lid closed)
[10:55] <ducasse> plesnut: sounds like the default xubuntu background iirc
[10:59] <plesnut> ducasse: Sure, but no login prompt for some reason
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> it's not rat, it's a mouse, indicating that it runs fast (speedy gonzalez)
[11:00] <plesnut> ducasse: It appears my installation is a bit screwed. I've been messing with it so much.
[11:00] <plesnut> Sure looks like a rat to me.
[11:01] <blackflow> MonkeyDust: best cartoon ever!
[11:02] <plesnut> Cartoon? You appear to be guilty of ... PAEDO :o
[11:02] <blackflow> eh?
[11:03] <ducasse> plesnut: the login prompt only appears on the primary display, which would be the internal on
[11:03] <plesnut> Do you know the confusion here? You said speedy gonzalez was a great cartoon..
[11:03] <plesnut> But MonkeyDust is also a cartoon (for adults)
[11:03] <blackflow> oh... no, I was talking about Speedy Gonzales, Fastest Mouse in Mexico! :)
[11:04] <plesnut> There's a character in it called the Paedo Finder General
[11:04] <zap0> M-Dust is awesome!
[11:05] <plesnut> Somebody ALWAYS brings out The Cycllists once ina a while
[11:05] <zap0> plesnut, by the power of tabloid readers, i pronounce you a <echo>PEDDDOOOOO
[11:10] <plesnut> Bored of these issues already.
[11:10] <plesnut> Does anyone have any bash/puppet/ansible/etc scripts they use to configure a media machine on ubuntu?
[11:13] <hamdjan> how do i start a sys-v service on ubuntu 16.04 on boot automatically?
[11:13] <quinguyen> ?
[11:14] <quinguyen> help
[11:15] <akik> hamdjan: did you try to do it sysv style? systemd should have support for them too
[11:15] <hamdjan> akik, no i used systemd. ive no idea how to enable an init script on startup with sysv style. how do i do that? i know there are /etc/rc* dirs and i just see there is squid inside
[11:16] <hamdjan> akik, i enabled it wtih `systemctl enable squid` and that created a squid service file to start the squid init, but on reboot squid doesnt work until i restart it
[11:18] <akik> hamdjan: i haven't tested myself but i just know there's some built-in functionality for it, e.g. if you run /etc/init.d/tor start it'll command systemd (this is on debian)
[11:19] <hamdjan> i think its vice versa, systemd command the init script
[11:19] <hamdjan> on 16.04
[11:19] <akik> https://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/debugging-systemd-sysv-init-compat
[11:20] <hamdjan> well this is a mess, ive no idea what to do :)
[11:20] <akik> Long story short, systemd interprets the standard LSB headers in the sysv init script so it execute the sysv init script in the context of something resembling a real systemd service.
[11:20] <hamdjan> yeah, thats how i understood it too
[11:20] <plesnut> Why is ubuntu displying on my laptop screen when the lid is down and hdmi out is hooked up to the tv?
[11:21] <hamdjan> but the "resembling real systemd service" apparently fails starting my service
[11:21] <hamdjan> so i tried to write a custom one, but that fails too
[11:21] <hamdjan> so maybe i can use sys-v to start it automatically on reboot??
[11:22] <akik> hamdjan: i'd need to test myself to see how it works, whether systemd and sysv rc.d links work together too
[11:22] <plesnut> Is there a nice way to backup the state of a system before messing up the configs?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> I use rsync to backup
[11:23] <plesnut> But all of the system? fstab, packages, etc
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> plesnut  yes, you can use rsync to backup /etc
[11:25] <plesnut> MonkeyDust: Interesting. I'll look into it
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> !rsync
[11:30] <akik> hamdjan: this comment mentions that by fixing the lsb headers in the init script, systemd should be able to manage it: https://serverfault.com/a/839081
[11:30] <zealsham_> how do i log out from an ubuntu user using commandline in 16.0.4
[11:30] <akik> zealsham_: exit
[11:30] <vlt> zealsham_: Or ctrl+d
[11:31] <akik> zealsham_: ahh understood you wrong. you want to exit the gui?
[11:31] <Guest45296> hi
[11:32] <akik> zealsham_: this is a bit harsh solution, but to kill all your personal processes (of the ubuntu user), you can run "kill -9 -1". this should be used only if there's not other way
[11:37] <akik> kind of amazing that people post their question, then don't follow up
[11:40] <sirru5h> akik, well sometimes they figure no one is asking because (reason here)
[11:40] <sirru5h> I've been there myself
[11:42] <renn0xtk9> I have KDE Neon deistibtution which is  as I undersand ubuntu based  . I have placed a script in /etc/rc0.d . It all seems to me like it is not called at shutdown time
[11:42] <renn0xtk9> any hints on how to troubleshoot ?
[11:42] <sirru5h> well night everyone
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> renn0xtk9  firstly, what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[11:42] <SlaSerX> how i can limt display only processes by a user when use ps command
[11:42] <ducasse> !based | renn0xtk9
[11:43] <akik> !neon
[11:43] <renn0xtk9> MonkeyDust: KDE neon LTS 5.8 \n \l
[11:43] <ducasse> !based on ubuntu | renn0xtk9
[11:44] <renn0xtk9> but the infrastructure with /etc/rc0.d etc should work the same does not it?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> renn0xtk9  type   /j #kde-neon
[11:44] <ducasse> renn0xtk9: don't know, don't care
[11:45] <plesnut> Why is cp not working in a sh script for me?
[11:45] <plesnut> No errors. It's just not doing anything
[11:46] <SlaSerX> any body know ?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> plesnut  paste the script here ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:48] <plesnut> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24529946/
[11:48] <plesnut> That line works fine when running it from the terminal
[11:53] <ducasse> plesnut: don't use relative paths in scripts
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> plesnut  ok, try rsync -a --progress instead of cp -a
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> and what ducasse says
[11:53] <plesnut> Why not?
[11:54] <arya__>  hello, i have some grub issues
[11:54] <ducasse> plesnut: because then the script needs to be executed from the correct directory
[11:55] <arya__> need help
[11:55] <akik> !ask | arya__
[11:56] <marcarrelus> !patience
[11:56] <plesnut> ducasse: Which is fine, it's ust a setup script
[11:56] <marcarrelus> !ask
[11:57] <ducasse> plesnut: _are_ you running it from the correct dir?
[11:57] <plesnut> ducasse: I am!
[11:58] <ducasse> plesnut: try changing it to '../files/*'
[12:01] <arya__> akik: and ubottu: sorry i was trying to figure out a way to upload images. Please refer this pic to know the problems with probably the grub. http://picpaste.com/IMG-20170507-WA0000-k62L1SBz.jpeg
[12:01] <akik> :)
[12:02] <zteam> Hi is there any solution at all, that allows me to avoid these @#¤%¤&% kernel bug, and at the same time enjoy my Nvidia card? Hi, is there any ETA for then this bug is expected to be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838
[12:02] <akik> arya__: kind of difficult to see the problem. what is the last thing you changed before running into this?
[12:03] <xxxx> hi, i just install ubuntu on a mac and i having audio problems: cannot raise volume and raise up browser voloume making in loud at the start of any song in youtube/spotify
[12:04] <xxxx> making it*
[12:04] <arya__> akik: my laptop freezes every now and then. and i can not install the software updates popped up with the Ubuntu Software Center, to fix that i was trying commands from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[12:05] <arya__> akik: i'm not sire if this is exactly what caused it or it is the cause which freezes my laptop.
[12:05] <akik> arya__: do you have an older kernel still available in the grub menu? maybe try that
[12:05] <akik> arya__: the error message says that it can't mount the root fs
[12:06] <zteam> arya__, you can just run sudo apt-get autoremove, that should clean out old kernels but also save the two latest ones
[12:08] <xxxx> ask: volume do graphic changes but sounds the same volume, bad sound in new mac with ubuntu
[12:08] <arya__> akik: right now, i have booted through the older kernel from the list: http://picpaste.com/IMG_20170507_171711-B1vu5Nlf.jpg
[12:09] <arya__> akik: let me try the autoremove command you suggested
[12:09] <plesnut> ooh what is this LVM? Is it good?
[12:09] <auronandace> !lvm | plesnut
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> !lvm
[12:09] <akik> arya__: it was zteam that mentioned it. but good that you're able to boot your system
[12:10] <plesnut> Oh wow lvm souds SO handy. For the snapsots
[12:10] <arya__> akik: zteam: ah, okay. anyway i'm trying it.
[12:10] <zteam> xxxx, if the problem is that the voulme is just to low, you might try to run alsamixer from a terminal
[12:10] <auronandace> arya__: it probably isn't a good idea to remove kernels until you are sure which ones you can boot from
[12:11] <akik> arya__: details matter, which kernel did you boot?
[12:11] <zteam> arya__, also are you using Ubuntu 17.04 as well?,
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> plesnut  btrfs, as opposed to ext4, lets you create snapshots, too
[12:11] <arya__> https://pastebin.com/FhYEpjmH
[12:11] <arya__> akik: zteam: here is the result of the autoremove command
[12:11] <arya__> https://pastebin.com/FhYEpjmH
[12:12] <akik> arya__: the error is you ran out of disk space
[12:12] <akik> arya__: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[12:12] <plesnut> MonkeyDust: This is exactly what I needed tbh. I'm having to re-install because I screwed up some configs
[12:12] <xxxx> volume is too high, and when a song starts it gets louder. Master volume do nothing
[12:12] <arya__> zteam: i'm using 14.04. not 17.04
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> plesnut  and there's PXE and clonezilla, and apt-clone
[12:13] <plesnut> MonkeyDust: I'll have to look into those as well. There's a lot to learn here for me atm
[12:15] <zteam> arya__, you have no space left on the device, that's way apt don't work as expected...., try to remove som files, from your homefolder, or reboot your computer in recovery mode and tell it to free up some discspace for you
[12:16] <zteam> arya__, also staying on Ubuntu 14.04 is not recommended as that is a very old release by now, you wouldn't even get security updates any more
[12:16] <akik> zteam: 14.04 is fully supported still
[12:17] <sebsebseb> zteam: arya__ not quite true, 14.04 will getu pdates
[12:17] <ducasse> zteam: supported until 2019
[12:17] <sebsebseb> zteam: its 12.04 that is eol now
[12:17] <sebsebseb> zteam: except for paying customers
[12:18] <sebsebseb> !12.04
[12:18] <arya__> zteam: akik: here are my system details https://pastebin.com/NLjAtVX2 also no space left is the root cause for many problems i'm trying to make space. some help with that would really help!
[12:18] <sebsebseb> !14.04
[12:18] <renn0xtk9> I placed a service int cd  /etc/systemd/system  but does not seem to be called
[12:18] <renn0xtk9> any idea why ?
[12:19] <ducasse> renn0xtk9: did you enable it?
[12:23] <renn0xtk9> ducasse yes i enabled it
[12:26] <renn0xtk9> this is how my service looks like
[12:26] <renn0xtk9> https://paste.opensuse.org/66813686
[12:27] <arya__> akik: how do i free up some space?
[12:28] <sels-afk> delete stuff
[12:29] <renn0xtk9> is there any tutorial somewhere on how making script of systemd shutdown ?
[12:29] <akik> arya__: if the apt-get or dpkg commands don't work, you could remove some big files manually with rm
[12:29] <arya__> okay
[12:29] <arya__> akik:
[12:29] <arya__> akik: thank you
[12:31] <cfhowlett> arya__, before you do all that do a paste of df -h
[12:32] <pynki> and backup your important stuff ;)
[12:33] <pynki> renn0xtk9, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown ?
[12:33] <pynki> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/284598/systemd-how-to-execute-script-at-shutdown-only-not-at-reboot
[12:33] <pynki> judt use google :D
[12:35] <pynki> renn0xtk9, since we want to learn something: https://patrakov.blogspot.hk/2011/01/writing-systemd-service-files.html , https://www.linux.com/learn/understanding-and-using-systemd , https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal
[12:35] <aispark> whenever i try gdm on 16.04 LTS it breaks...Forces me to 'LightDM only'
[12:35] <arya__> akik: https://pastebin.com/M0KBUizH but this is after i deleted 2 directories from home
[12:36] <arya__> akik: i think i can not delete more than this
[12:36] <arya__> akik: i need other stuff
[12:36] <pynki> aispark, i use slim - works great
[12:36] <akik> arya__: i meant deleting big files from /boot (older initrd files)
[12:36] <cfhowlett> arya__, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[12:36] <cfhowlett> and paste
[12:37] <aispark> pynki, I'll try slim
[12:38] <arya__> cfhowlett: akik: https://pastebin.com/duCXmK8B
[12:38] <pynki> aispark, do not wonder: it is what its name suggests: slim
[12:38] <renn0xtk9> pynki: which is exactly what i have done as you can see from my paste ;)
[12:38] <cfhowlett> arya__, yep.  you need to delete some old kernels to free up space
[12:38] <renn0xtk9> and still not working. therefore I am asking for a complete official tutorial if any ,  since all the thread here and there are conflicting each oters ;)
[12:39] <arya__> cfhowlett: okay. how? what commands?
[12:39] <pynki> renn0xtk9, the home folder is mounted at that point in time? do you have any error messages?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> arya__, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04/
[12:40] <arya__> cfhowlett: how about this one sudo apt-get autoremove --purge?
[12:40] <arya__> cfhowlett: okay. let me check
[12:41] <cloudbud> can somebody help me with zookeeper
[12:41] <renn0xtk9> pynki: actually I have tried with this line : Before=shutdown.target umount.target  so I hope it is ... where are log of services stored?
[12:41] <arya__> cfhowlett:
[12:42] <arya__>  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[12:42] <arya__> E: Command line option --purge is not understood
[12:42] <cfhowlett> are you on 16.04 arya__ ?
[12:42] <pynki> renn0xtk9, systemctl status your.service
[12:42] <arya__> cfhowlett: yes
[12:42] <pynki> renn0xtk9, journalctrl -u your.service
[12:43] <cfhowlett> see the link I sent you and go to the "Remove Old Kernels via DPKG" section
[12:43] <arya__> cfhowlett: okay
[12:43] <pynki> renn0xtk9, the digitalocean link gives you a quick overview
[12:44] <mustard> hello everybody
[12:44] <pynki> aloha
[12:46] <pynki> renn0xtk9, when the home folders are encrypted no one will be able to read the script. thats why i am asking. can yopu let your script write a simple test file. like this "echo 'whatever >> test.file" to see if it runs or not?
[12:48] <kunji> Hi, I see in the serverguide documentation "As of Ubuntu 14.04, users are automatically placed in a set of cgroups which they own, safely allowing them to contrain their own jobs using child cgroups.  This feature is relied upon, for instance, for unprivileged container creation in lxc.   "   Does anyone know where these ones are mounted by default, I'm not sure that I see them in /sys/fs/cgroup  ??
[12:49] <kunji> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cgroups-delegation.html
[12:49] <abtest01> hi
[12:49] <renn0xtk9> pynki: well with that overview https://paste.opensuse.org/72039313
[12:50] <sebsebseb> abtest01: hi
[12:50] <renn0xtk9> Ideally developpers would have made thos log persistend upon shutdown.
[12:51] <arya__> cfhowlett: hey, the space issue is so stringent, that it does not allow me to install the gksu from the link you suggested. https://pastebin.com/ipCdYEeq
[12:51] <renn0xtk9> which would help to debug probleme with script getting not called at shutdown.   but they did not think about it ^^
[12:51] <cfhowlett> install gksu?  why? nothing in the dpkg option calls for gksu, arya__
[12:52] <akik> arya__: did you manually rm a couple of initrd files? that would help
[12:52] <arya__> cfhowlett: okay let me check
[12:52] <renn0xtk9> is there anyway with system d to log which services programm script etc are getting called sequentially ?
[12:52] <akik> arya__: you have plenty of space in / but very little in /boot
[12:53] <cfhowlett> akik, random removal of initrd will break things.  dpkg / apt removal will handle that without errors or breakage.
[12:53] <renn0xtk9> that would help to sort out  the "declarative' approach chosen by developpers..
[12:53] <arya__> akik: cfhowlett i guess i was following wrong commands
[12:53] <akik> cfhowlett: it doesn't matter as he's not going to use those older initrd files
[12:53] <cfhowlett> arya__, slow your roll or you are going to have a self-inflicted painful experience
[13:07] <Anonymes> hi
[13:08] <arya__> akik: cfhowlett: https://pastebin.com/6EgEik7E this is the new status
[13:09] <arya__> akik: cfhowlet: used dpkg commands from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[13:09] <cfhowlett> arya__, looks better.  bit of clean up suggest: sudo apt autoremove
[13:09] <arya__> cfhowlett: E: Invalid operation autoremove
[13:10] <cfhowlett> arya__, try this:   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt install -f && sudo apt remove && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:11] <abtest01> which "software package repository management software" ubunut respos uses?
[13:13] <kunji> abtest01: apt
[13:14] <arya__> cfhowlett: akik: thank you! looks better now! :) :) :)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> arya__, run that last bit regularly for basic maintenance
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> abtest01  apt means advanced package tool, hence syn-apt-ic and apt-itude
[13:14] <abtest01> apt is client tool.
[13:14] <abtest01> whats used on repository server?
[13:14] <arya__> cfhowlett: okay. will do! :)
[13:14] <abtest01> MonkeyDust: ^
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> abtest01  not sure, i'm not a dev or member of the motu
[13:20] <Lavinho> good morrning
[13:20] <Lavinho> my speaker bluetooth this not apppear
[13:21] <Lavinho> why ?
[13:22] <zap0> can i get some help trying to get DNS settings to work.    i can ping things via IP address, and browser can connect via IP,  no names get resolved though.
[13:30] <pos> Latest kernel on trusty with linux-signed-generic-lts-xenial/linux-generic-lts-xenial is 4.4.0-75, yet latest kernel running xenial is 4.4.0-77?
[13:30] <rida> hello
[13:30] <rida> anyone here?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> rida  type   /names
[13:31] <plesnut> I am finding so much trial and error with bash scripts. Things that work in the terminal just fail in sript form
[13:31] <rida> i came here to report bugs
[13:32] <plesnut> Total PITA
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !bug | rida
[13:32] <rida> its was not usefull
[13:32] <rida> already read that the intructions where a little vague
[13:33] <compdoc> ive written a program in bash. was about 5 or 6 script files that call each other. it can be done
[13:33] <rida> i need to report an bug NOT AN FILE OR AN PID
[13:34] <rida> :/ noone helping me
[13:34] <bliplap> hi guys, I've always used Xubuntu on my laptops for the lighter weight/performance - but on current hardware Ubuntu and Kubuntu wms run just as fast
[13:34] <bliplap> Do you think its reasonable to still use Xubuntu just because I feel XFCE is more distraction free ?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> rida  state your issue, in one line, and wait
[13:34] <rida> can somebody help me
[13:34] <bliplap> I will still install some Gnome and KDE libs
[13:35] <rida> ok i will tell now
[13:37] <rida> so wenever i plug my wifi adapter in ubuntu UBUNTU COMPLETELY FREEZES
[13:37] <rida> now im using an old kernel
[13:37] <rida> but this problem needs to be solved
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> ric999  drop the caps
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> that was for rida
[13:38] <rida> anyone?
[13:39] <rida> well if cant get help from this, than i dont know what todo nwo.
[13:39] <rida> ....
[13:40] <docmax> where can i get help with virtualgl?
[13:40] <rida> .......
[13:41] <rida> Its Now 5 Mins And I Got No Help.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> rida  repeat your question every 10-15 mnutes, until someone enters who can help
[13:42] <rida> ok
[13:42] <rida> wait, isnt that spam?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> rida  and spare the enter key, to avoid spamming
[13:43] <rida> well scrap that im gonna do it anyway to get help
[13:43] <rida> by that i mean im not gonna spam
[13:45] <rida> I need help
[13:46] <docmax> rida, me too
[13:46] <docmax> noone is gonna help us
[13:46] <rida> with what?
[13:46] <docmax> with VirtualGL and my life
[13:46] <rida> ahah pls dont make jokes here this is sirious
[13:47] <rida> this is only meant for posting bugs
[13:47] <rida> but whats virtualgl and i know what gl is
[13:47] <docmax> my life is a bug
[13:47] <rida> pls just stop
[13:48] <docmax> ok
[13:48] <rida> but whats virtitual gl?\
[13:49] <rida> I need help
[13:49] <rida> are img's allowed
[13:50] <rida> no i mean is there an img command like img scr
[13:50] <rida> .img thanks for you help
[13:50] <rida> nope
[13:50] <rida> im getting bored of waiting!
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> !patience | rida
[13:52] <rida> atleast they CAN TRY HELP ME
[13:54] <rida> if i would rate you i will give an 10 FOR BEING AN COOKIE CUTTER HELPER THAT DOESNT HELP
[13:56] <marcarrelus> It's not very constructive to demand help. These people are simply trying to help as much as they can. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. That's how it goes on IRC
[13:58] <kunji> plesnut: Are you sure you're using BASH for your scripts?
[13:59] <kunji> Hi, I see in the serverguide documentation "As of Ubuntu 14.04, users are automatically placed in a set of cgroups which they own, safely allowing them to contrain their own jobs using child cgroups.  This feature is relied upon, for instance, for unprivileged container creation in lxc.   "   Does anyone know where these ones are mounted by default, I'm not sure that I see them in /sys/fs/cgroup  ??    https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cgroups-delegation.
[13:59] <arya__> hello, i ran this command "dpkg -l | tail -n +6 | grep -E 'linux-image-[0-9]+' | grep -Fv $(uname -r)" from this link http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04/ the link describes rc, ii and iU types of kernels. however i'm getting iF. does anyone know what iF is?
[14:00] <EriC^^> arya__: dpkg -l | head
[14:00] <EriC^^> halF-conf
[14:06] <arya__> EriC^^: thank you
[14:07] <EriC^^> arya__: no problem
[14:34] <esteem_> hi guys, I have a quick question. How do I cut off internet accress if my VPN drops? I cant seem to find that option
[14:34] <esteem_> 16.04
[14:35] <marcarrelus> you could use your firewall to block all traffic that doesn't go through your VPN tunnel
[14:35] <kunji> Found them /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service
[14:36] <esteem_> as in my hardware firewall?
[14:36] <esteem_> or the systems?
[14:36] <esteem_> I like having my xbox one connecting without the vpn
[14:37] <marcarrelus> your systems should do fine. Like iptables for example. I'm not an expert, but it most probably will be doable ufw.
[14:37] <marcarrelus> * with ufw
[14:38] <v5> is ubuntu 17.04 stable now?
[14:39] <kunji> v5: It should have been "stable" at release, but do note that 17.04 is not an LTS release, the most recent LTS release is 16.04.
[14:39] <esteem_> marcarrelus: thanks for the tips... Ill google with them and find out more information
[14:43] <Sparrow__> esteem_, You can have more than one linux installed
[14:44] <Sparrow__> oops
[14:44] <Sparrow__> v5 that was for you
[14:51] <porterhouse> how does a webdav mount entry in fstab suppose to look like with loging credentials?
[14:51] <kunji> v5: If 16.04 is working fine then I probably wouldn't upgrade ot 17.04 if it is giving me issues.  Potential benefits would mostly be newer packages available in the repos, but it's not impossible to get them for 16.04, just sometimes less convenient.
[14:55] <adamFromSomewher> Hi htere. What's the channel for ubuntu phone/phablet development?
[14:55] <zealsham_> when i download with lynx, where fo i see the downloaded files. been looking for it
[15:01] <adamFromSomewher> damn
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> !phone | adamFromSomewher start here
[15:04] <lematt> hey
[15:04] <lematt> how do I know if my package manager is consistent ?
[15:04] <lematt> And it has no issues
[15:05] <lematt> apt-get ??
[15:05] <lematt> apt-get xx
[15:09] <RocketLL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick why does this page tell users to convert the iso into img? I've dd'd plenty of ISOs on OSX without problems, and unless it's an OSX version thing or a specific issue with Ubuntu, I'd like to know why.
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> lematt  there's apt policy
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> lematt  and apt show
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> lematt  and there's launchpad
[15:14] <lematt> MonkeyDust: I want to do it consistency checks for the package manager, hwo do I do it??
[15:14] <lematt> consistency checks for the entire system?
[15:14] <lematt> I think something is broken
[15:14] <lematt> I suspect, and just wished to check it
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> lematt  i guess you better start from the beginning, what brings you here
[15:16] <lematt> MonkeyDust: I just want to do something like pacman -Qk which does system check's is everything not conflicting
[15:16] <lematt> So yes, my question is at least valid MonkeyDust
[15:17] <lematt> I am searching for something equivalent
[15:17] <Sparrow__> lematt, You can start with inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:20] <sea-> Is it just me or is steelix.canonical.com down?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> sea-  shows an apeche2 page here
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[15:24] <sea-> Running apt-get update sticks right here: '0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)]'
[15:25] <bekks> sea-: How long did you wait?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> sea-  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[15:25] <sea-> It's been about 2 minutes now
[15:25] <sea-> oh wait
[15:25] <sea-> It just continued
[15:25] <sea-> What on earth is that. Why the ridiculous delay?
[15:26] <bekks> sea-: How much did you pay for 100% availability?
[15:26] <sea-> Well I didn't pay for 100% but I know that my IPv6 link wasn't down at the time, otherwise I couldn't be communicating with you all
[15:27] <renn0xtk9> how to replace a service in systemd
[15:27] <bekks> sea-: Unless you pay a LOT of $$$ for 100% for every service you are using, dont expect 100% availablity please :)
[15:28] <Seveas> even with $$$, 100% availability is not going to happen :)
[15:30] <porterhouse> is it possible for me to assign two virual nics to a ubuntu VM and bonding them for link aggregatiion/lacp ?
[15:30] <porterhouse> i want to use both virual nics as vpn connections and bond them
[15:37] <lematt> Sparrow__: what is that shit
[15:41] <nikitka> Hi guys!
[15:41] <nikitka> Why you all are disconnecting?
[15:41] <nikitka> Hello
[15:42] <nikitka> hmm
[15:42] <nikitka> fuck
[15:42] <nikitka> dick
[15:42] <nikitka> frw
[15:42] <nikitka> y
[15:42] <nikitka> 4
[15:43] <nikitka> 56
[15:43] <nikitka> 7
[15:43] <nikitka> 567
[15:43] <nikitka> 56
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> nikitka  stop
[15:43] <nikitka> 7
[15:43] <nikitka> 56
[15:44] <rud0lf> adhd
[15:44] <rud0lf> imagine some stranger walking into a group of people in the street and doing same thing
[15:44] <rud0lf> not neccessarily killed after this :S
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> rud0lf  donald trump does it in public
[15:45] <rud0lf> :D
[15:47] <Sparrow__> Unless it is cold then he cant find it
[15:47] <LetterRip> hi - what is the recommended method for handling 'mouse click bouncing'  it is the built in mousepad so it can't really be replaced, on windows I've added a program that does it
[15:47] <Sparrow__> LetterRip, I had that too, when wireless mouse and turned off touchpad
[15:47] <LetterRip> (mouse click bouncing is when a single click sends multiple click signals)
[15:47] <Sparrow__> went
[15:49] <Sparrow__> !find PyQt4
[16:03] <renn0xtk9> How to debug when systemd is not calling you script at shutdown?
[16:11] <renn0xtk9> how to call a script at shutdown with systemd? ANY DOC ON INTERNET NOT WORKING
[16:14] <tgm4883> !patience | renn0xtk9
[16:16] <renn0xtk9> !respect
[16:16] <renn0xtk9> !respect| developers     ;)
[16:19] <sasha|> hi i need help with apt-get update not working. iam using virtualbox and its not able to fetch: error some index files failed to download
[16:19] <sasha|> any suggestions?
[16:19] <Ip8> I installed Kubuntu, everything is AFAIK fine, but there is no wifi, i cannot search and connect to wifi networks.
[16:20] <sasha|> tried everything from disable ipv6 to NAT and bridged mode...
[16:20] <Sparrow__> try turning off ipv6   and telling us what wifi chipset
[16:21] <Sparrow__> sasha|, What do your sources look like
[16:22] <sasha|> where can i find sourcelist?
[16:22] <sasha|> its been while with linux
[16:22] <Sparrow__> in term   inxi -Fxxrzc0
[16:23] <sasha|> inxi?
[16:24] <sasha|> Sparrow__ please explain
[16:26] <sasha|> i dont have inx
[16:27] <Ip8> Where can I disable IPv6?!
[16:28] <Sparrow__> click on network icon then edit then wifi then edit
[16:29] <sasha|> https://pastebin.com/shhe31me
[16:30] <tgm4883> !who | Sparrow__
[16:30] <sasha|> Sparrow__ pastebin link shows the links
[16:31] <Ip8> Sparrow_, it is for creating network, not editing
[16:31] <Sparrow__> Thanks..
[16:32] <Sparrow__> click on network icon then edit then wifi network below wifi then edit
[16:35] <Sparrow__> Ip8, Find it ok?
[16:36] <Sparrow__> !find pgbouncer
[16:38] <Nick21> hi everyone
[16:39] <sasha|> any  help please
[16:39] <sasha|> https://pastebin.com/shhe31me
[16:39] <sasha|> need help with apt-get update not working. iam using virtualbox and its not able to fetch: error some index files failed to download
[16:40] <Sparrow__> sasha|, Why old releases in sources..  Err http://it.old-releases.ubuntu.com quantal Release.gpg
[16:40] <sasha|> dont know was like that
[16:41] <sasha|> what should i replace with? and how
[16:41] <Ip8> Sparrow_, I cannot find the place for TURING OFF IPV6!!!
[16:41] <Sparrow__> Cant help you with that.. too messy for me
[16:41] <Ip8> tell me where and what to do IN DETAILS!
[16:42] <Sparrow__> Ip8, You got it click by click getting you to ipv6 tab I cant help any more than that
[16:42] <tgm4883> Ip8: chill with the caps man. Are you in network manager currently?
[16:42] <Ip8> No
[16:42] <tgm4883> Ip8: this is a desktop or server?
[16:43] <Ip8> Desktop
[16:43] <Ip8> I am just a normal user
[16:43] <Ip8> i don't know much of anything!
[16:43] <tgm4883> Ip8: wired or wireless?
[16:44] <Ip8> Wireless
[16:44] <tgm4883> Ip8: why are you trying to disable ipv6 anyway?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Ip8  is this useful http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/disable-ipv6-if-your-internet-is.html
[16:45] <Ip8> tgm4883 IDK Sparrow_ told me
[16:45]  * tgm4883 tries not to give people 5+ year old docs
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  true
[16:45] <tgm4883> Ip8: well what's your real issue?
[16:46] <Ip8> I can not search and connect to WiFi networks
[16:46] <tgm4883> Ip8: what wireless card do you have?
[16:46] <Ip8> Tenda W33U Broadcom
[16:46] <Ip8> W332E
[16:47] <Ip8> I download the driver but Linux does not extract the file because of having errors of files, it can extract it but it doesnot.
[16:49] <sasha|> changed from old to new list but still get 404
[16:49] <Ip8> I am gonna to eat  dinner, when I get back, I expect solution, otherwise... bad things will follow.
[16:50] <sasha|> ip8 lol
[16:50] <SimonNL> Ip8: solution is already offered.
[16:51] <tgm4883> SimonNL: a solution was offered?
[16:51] <SimonNL> yes for disabling ipv6
[16:51] <tgm4883> SimonNL: oh, well he probably wants a solution that will actually fix his issue
[16:51] <SimonNL> could be.
[16:52] <tgm4883> SimonNL: which disabling ipv6 won't do. Which is why I always stress to tag the people you're talking to since I don't think that was meant for him
[16:53] <SimonNL> Ip8: solution is already offered.   this tgm4883 ?
[16:54] <tgm4883> SimonNL: no, earlier someone said to disable ipv6, but I believe that was meant for something other than Ip8, but there was no tag so I think ip8 thought it was for him and ran with it
[16:55] <tgm4883> SimonNL: ip8's issue is that he can't even scan for wireless networks
[16:56] <jiffe> is zfs for all partitions going to be supported through ubuntu install at some point soon?
[16:56] <jiffe> from what I read, 17.04 broke a lot of this
[16:57] <SimonNL> tgm4883: I'm all confused now I'll take a break.
[16:58] <SimonNL> tgm4883: but your explanation did clear it up a little.
[16:58] <computeruser> does ubuntu 17.04 mate come with a python graphical IDE?
[17:00] <yeats> computeruser: probably not, but you can do 'sudo apt install idle'
[17:00] <computeruser> I have emacs IDE installed
[17:00] <computeruser> how is idle?
[17:00] <computeruser> maybe an addon for emacs?
[17:00] <computeruser> or for pluma?
[17:01] <sasha|> can someone please help me with apt-get update not working? iam using virtualbox ubuntu on windows. NAT/bridge mode tried. it returns 404 on the links from ubuntu sources
[17:01] <_Ricardo> hi
[17:01] <_Ricardo> how can I check, if a websocket is open?
[17:02] <Sparrow__> sasha|, Tell people about old releases in sources..  Err http://it.old-releases.ubuntu.com quantal Release.gpg
[17:02] <jackhum> atom on my ubuntu takes long time to start
[17:03] <sasha|> Sparrow__ i replaced sources.list
[17:03] <sasha|> still same problem
[17:03] <jackhum> sublime text 3 takes barely 3 seconds , while it goes to 7-8 sec for atom
[17:03] <akik> sasha|: the default nat mode should work with virtualbox. can you access other services for example with firefox?
[17:03] <jackhum> is there any fix to make it start faster
[17:03] <computeruser> sasha| 404 is a very specific error. some webserver or maybe something in the middle is confirming that the file is not found on the server.
[17:03] <Sparrow__> sasha|, did you do update
[17:03] <computeruser> it confirms two way network communication
[17:04] <tgm4883> sasha|: what is the output of 'lsb_release -a'
[17:04] <computeruser> but it doesn't prove if the url request wwas modified during upstream transmission
[17:05] <sasha|> its ubuntu 12.10
[17:05] <computeruser> if there is something in the middle that is adding characters or escaping characters to some format not recognized by the server the server will think you are requesting something else
[17:05] <computeruser> on ubuntu 12.10 I would think the repos might not be the correct address
[17:05] <computeruser> old links dead links
[17:05] <tgm4883> !eol | sasha|
[17:05] <computeruser> you should ping them from another machine or from outside the vm
[17:06] <tgm4883> That's why you had old releases and why you probably need to update
[17:06] <Ip8> Am back
[17:07] <Ip8> Come on people!
[17:07] <Ip8> How do I connect and search for wifis?
[17:07] <Ip8> *to
[17:08] <computeruser> is there a way he can download a new ubuntu distro and make it boot from a partition?
[17:08] <computeruser> after backing up files
[17:08] <Sparrow__> sasha|, I thought that had reached end of life except security for ubuntu advantage CUSTOMERS
[17:08] <Ip8> Na fuck this, fuck you. Am done.
[17:09] <sasha|> i might have changed to the old- links after reading on stackover. but i changed back now to a list not containing old. adresses . but why is it giving 404`?
[17:09] <Guest63404> 01000111 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100
[17:09] <computeruser> Ip8 61 seconds to wait for a response before rage quiting and shaming the free help
[17:10] <computeruser> I bet anyone that was about to help you changed their mind after they read your f u message
[17:11] <Sparrow__> sasha|, I cant help but think your problem may be in part to your release being end of life five days ago
[17:11] <Sparrow__> computeruser, in 60 seconds he asks for help again
[17:12] <akik> 12.10 support ended in 2013?
[17:13] <Sparrow__> I thought she had 12.04 repos earlier
[17:13] <tgm4883> wow, that was uncalled for....
[17:14] <tgm4883> Sparrow__: sasha| in any case, an upgrade is required
[17:14] <Sparrow__> Agreed, long over due                                     tgm4883
[17:14] <anonymous_> 01000111 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100
[17:15] <anonymous_> 01000111 01110010 01100101 01100001 01110100 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100
[17:15] <sasha|> tgm4883 how can i upgrade?
[17:15] <tgm4883> sasha|: either via clean install, or via the link I sent
[17:16] <Sparrow__> I know I get lazy when working with people and dont always write their name.  In the old days I could OP up and kick myself ,  tell us your hardware before you pick new os
[17:16] <Sparrow__> sasha|,
[17:23] <kennyngston> good evening everyone
[17:24] <kennyngston> i'm playing with VRFs on ubuntu 17.04, but can't figure out how to make them survive reboot :) the only thing i can think of is a script that runs at boot but thats a bit getho - anyone any ideas?
[17:27] <computeruser> guest63404 typed "Greats world" in bin
[17:28] <computeruser> perhaps you mean "hello world" ?
[17:28] <computeruser> translated to chineese back to american back to binary
[17:28] <Sparrow__> !broadcom
[17:30] <student> auto
[17:30] <student> kigjhu
[17:30] <student> jkkikdkfujf
[17:30] <student> f kcfuwec ch msuhcekczhsdksd
[17:30] <student> vb,kjihijhgzo
[17:30] <student> ijuijh
[17:31] <computeruser> step right up
[17:31] <computeruser> see if you can survive the +b
[17:32] <XHFHX> Is this a bug or a feature? If i make a right click in chrome and keep the dialog open the screen will turn off after 5 minutes but it won't display the lock screen - instead it will return to the unlocked screen
[17:32] <computeruser> maybe he went face down on the input device
[17:32] <XHFHX> when the dialog is not opend i'll get the lockscreen after 5 minutes
[17:34] <Sparrow__> XHFHX, I would assume keep dialog open does just that, avoids the lock screen
[17:36] <computeruser> installed idle per the suggestion. looks legit
[17:37] <MrSassyPants> apturl-> ImportError: No module named 'PyQt4.QtWebKit'
[17:41] <computeruser> quicktime 4?
[17:42] <sasha|> Sparrow__ ubuntu 6.06.1-x86 stuck on waiting for root file system
[17:42] <computeruser> maybe non-free apple stuff
[17:42] <sasha|> Sparrow__ iam trying another image for virtualbox
[17:43] <sasha|> Sparrow__ sorry thats really old version
[17:43] <Sparrow__> :)
[17:43] <Sparrow__> I was an OP here back then.. fond memories.. mostly
[17:43] <MrSassyPants> computeruser, Qt is a graphical library
[17:43] <MrSassyPants> I think its the basis of kde
[17:44] <Sparrow__> !find qt4
[17:44] <brotherBox> hi guys, i am switching to systemd-boot. how can i get rid of grub on my machine?
[17:46] <Bashing-om> brotherBox: Without grub ( GRand Uninified Bootloader ) can not load the operating system . rephrase ?
[17:46] <Sparrow__> brotherBox, are you using some tutorial?
[17:47] <brotherBox> Sparrow__: no, i dont
[17:47] <brotherBox> Bashing-om: i figure that systemd-boot is doing the job that grub is going. i have written a configuration and it boots into my ubuntu just fine
[17:47] <brotherBox> now i want to get rid of its remnants
[17:48] <pi_> hi
[17:50] <n-iCe> hi, I have a problem, I can't surf the internet with the default resolv.conf is this a known bug?
[17:51] <orb> I'll bet it's not a bug, per se
[17:51] <graphyte> hi there, i saw a video about using ubuntu server as the base of an ubuntu desktop and installing all stuff one wants by hand. what do you think about that?
[17:51] <Bashing-om> brotherBox: EFI boot manager ?? what remnamts ? Grub does track old installed kernels . remove the unneeded kernels ??
[17:53] <akik> graphyte: you can just install the desktop version directly
[17:53] <graphyte> yeah sure akik
[17:54] <akik> server/workstation is a line drawn in water in linux
[17:54] <Sparrow__> I agree wit akik
[17:54] <graphyte> maybe you did not read what i wrote akik
[17:54] <graphyte> it is about to start somewhat from scratch
[17:55] <akik> graphyte: i read it but if your goal is to anyhow use the desktop on the server, why bother with a complex setup?
[17:55] <c_korn> hello, after updating my server from 12.04 to 14.04 I cannot upload with ftp any longer. the send command gives this error: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[17:55] <graphyte> just for fun as linux is fun too not just being always serious ;)
[17:55] <Sparrow__> You wont gain by trying to start clean if thats what you mean
[17:56] <graphyte> sure
[17:56] <graphyte> a lot of apps that i do not want
[17:56] <graphyte> why uninstall them all even more work
[17:56] <graphyte> useless discussion
[17:56] <Sparrow__> There are a lot of apps on the server install you dont want either
[17:56] <Bashing-om> !minimal | graphyte
[17:56] <Sparrow__> Start with minimal
[17:56] <graphyte> all i wanted to know if server and workstation are somewhat identically as far as in kernel and so
[17:57] <Sparrow__> Both Debian Based ?
[17:57] <Bashing-om> graphyte: Correct, the server and desktop editions have the same kernel .
[17:57] <graphyte> i see you cant answer it
[17:57] <graphyte> if someone i would like an answer thanks!
[17:58] <graphyte> not a quest about why doing it
[17:58] <Sparrow__> This is not the place for discussion either
[17:58] <graphyte> if you want why answer go for religions ...
[17:58] <Sparrow__> If you want to troll go somewhere else
[17:59] <graphyte> question: is ubutntu server identically to ubtuntu server. or is the kernel and optimizations different?
[17:59] <graphyte> feel free to ignore me Sparrow
[17:59] <Sparrow__>  is ubutntu server identically to ubtuntu server       wtf
[17:59] <graphyte> if someone has real knowledge i would appreciate an answer thanks!
[18:00] <Sparrow__> Consider yourself quoted
[18:00] <n-iCe> hi, I have a problem, I can't surf the internet with the default resolv.conf is this a known bug?
[18:01] <graphyte> ? n-iCe
[18:01] <graphyte> give some info and i help you
[18:02] <graphyte> did you check your internet connection with ping or traceroute?
[18:05] <n-iCe> graphyte: I change the resolv.conf ip, and internet works
[18:06] <graphyte> i see
[18:06] <graphyte> what was your goal?
[18:06] <n-iCe> goal?
[18:06] <n-iCe> use the internet?
[18:07] <orb> what did you change it from/to?
[18:07] <n-iCe> something is wrong with the new ubuntu release, I don't even know the ip that is under resolv.conf
[18:07] <n-iCe> orb: to the google ip, 8.8.8.8
[18:07] <orb> and what other info was in that file?
[18:08] <orb> what was it before?
[18:08] <graphyte> google dns servers are 8.8.8.8
[18:08] <graphyte> and 8.8.4.4
[18:08] <orb> i think everyone knows that.
[18:08] <graphyte> go orb help me
[18:08] <graphyte> if two people help doesnt make sense
[18:09] <graphyte> help him in a private window so only one will lead him
[18:09] <tgm4883> no, help here so it's logged and searchable for the future
[18:09] <Sparrow__> Dont go private
[18:09] <graphyte> oh gosh man
[18:09] <graphyte> can someone just help him?
[18:09] <Seveas> n-iCe: was it 127.0.0.53? That's the systemd resolver.
[18:10] <graphyte> i can i am a network engineer but lets only one person help!
[18:10] <orb> i've asked some questions already - just waiting for an answer.
[18:10] <orb> wow, you guys.
[18:10]  * tgm4883 sees nothing wrong with multiple people helping....
[18:10] <graphyte> it is irritating for the guy that wants help!
[18:10] <orb> tell me about it.
[18:10] <graphyte> first always check ip stack!
[18:11] <graphyte> with ping
[18:11] <orb> he CAN get to the internet.
[18:11] <graphyte> he didnt say so
[18:11] <orb> he did say so.
[18:11] <tgm4883> graphyte: yea he did
[18:11] <Seveas> orb: facts don't seem to mean anything to graphyte :)
[18:11] <Sparrow__> :)
[18:11] <orb> he's identified that he can fix it by putting in the google dns server.
[18:11] <graphyte> you are only strong if you can bash on one person
[18:11] <n-iCe> how can I set resvolf.conf changed permanently
[18:11] <n-iCe> changes*
[18:12] <orb> you can make the file immutable but that doesn't answer why it wants to be changed.
[18:12] <graphyte> next time copy it before a change
[18:12] <n-iCe> what?
[18:12] <n-iCe> changing to 8.8.8.8 works, in every reboot it is changed
[18:12] <n-iCe> how do I save the changes
[18:13] <graphyte> if you saved it correctly i doesnt go back
[18:13] <Sparrow__> n-iCe, click network icon, edit, your wifi network and set it on the ipv4 tab
[18:13] <tgm4883> graphyte: thats.... not true either
[18:13] <Seveas> n-iCe: edit /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base
[18:14] <orb> are you using NetworkManager
[18:14] <graphyte> of course it is true!
[18:14] <graphyte> only if you have scripts checking file system and restore original confs
[18:14] <tgm4883> setting network manager to use dhcp for address only and then manually set your dns entries in there is correct
[18:14] <Seveas> n-iCe: systemd like to spew its resolver all over you, which is quite sucky. By editing the resovconf base file you can make it stop.
[18:14] <graphyte> i guess he doesnt have suchs things running
[18:14] <graphyte> but man you are really rocknroll
[18:14] <graphyte> wonderful techs
[18:14] <tgm4883> graphyte: that's exactly what happens. resolvconf generates the file, hence why when he reboots it gets reset
[18:15] <n-iCe> ok
[18:15] <n-iCe> thanks
[18:15] <orb> graphyte - you clearly don't have any answers. Why be annoying on top of that?
[18:15] <orb> I've only been in the channel ten minutes and I can see that.
[18:16] <tgm4883> orb: let's stay civil now :)
[18:16] <Seveas> orb: I've been here for 12½ years and I see it too...
[18:16] <orb> sorry about that.
[18:17] <graphyte> all you can do is insult
[18:17] <graphyte> after 12 years of being too long JUST HERE!
[18:17] <graphyte> try reality again!
[18:17] <orb> i was out of line.
[18:18] <Sparrow__> Seveas, remember those days here were crazy thousands of questions a day flying by
[18:18] <Seveas> Sparrow__: yeah, better than this...
[18:18] <graphyte> now prove yourself that you are so right and after that ass kissing try to hel this guy seriously!
[18:18] <ikonia> graphyte: enough
[18:18] <Sparrow__> I gave up ops when we were forced into Unity
[18:19] <graphyte> and go help him private nothing wrong about helping soemone in a private window!
[18:19] <ikonia> graphyte: we ask that you help in public so others can audit
[18:19] <ikonia> please follow that
[18:19] <graphyte> feel free to kickban me no need for this channel thanks
[18:19] <graphyte> ignorant idiots!
[18:19] <ikonia> graphyte: there is no need if you drop the behaviour
[18:19] <ikonia> that works too
[18:19] <Sparrow__> Hi ikonia nice to see you too.   and yes there is a prob taking people into private especially without asking
[18:19] <tgm4883> ikonia: I'm telling you, this is exactly why I need op powers
[18:20] <Seveas> tgm4883: neh, only ikonia needs them. He has seemingly infinite patience, which is an absolute requirement
[18:20] <Seveas> ikonia ftw.
[18:20] <ikonia> snigger
[18:20] <tgm4883> Seveas: but I have an itchy trigger finger
[18:20] <orb> probably shouldn't make it obvious that there are ops watching. :D
[18:20] <Seveas> tgm4883: then you really shouldn't have ops power.
[18:20] <orb> no ops ^
[18:21] <Seveas> (I know that from experience as op here)
[18:21] <Sparrow__> Ops are always watching
[18:21] <dax> especially now
[18:21]  * Seveas slaps dax with a moist and smelly trout
[18:21] <Sparrow__> Seveas, I didnt officially give up ops, I just moved to Mint
[18:22] <Seveas> boo hiss
[18:22] <Sparrow__> argh
[18:22] <Sparrow__> But Im back
[18:22] <Seveas> just in time for unity to die \o/
[18:22] <Sparrow__> sneaking in lurking
[18:22] <Sparrow__> Unitys death brough me bacl
[18:23] <Sparrow__> But didn't help my typing
[18:26] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[18:26] <n-iCe> hello
[18:26] <ubuntu-mate> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz (3.10GHz) • Memory: Physical: 5.6 GiB Total (4.2 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 25.5 GB / 326.0 GB (300.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller •
[18:26] <ubuntu-mate>  Uptime: 9m 3s
[18:26] <jackhum> suppose i have this ubuntu laptop , i want to execute some command on it while writing it on my android phone . how can i do this
[18:27] <tgm4883> jackhum: ssh
[18:27] <tgm4883> ubuntu-mate: don't do that
[18:27] <akik> jackhum: vx connectbot on android is a ssh client. supports pki
[18:27] <jackhum> tgm4883, okay, how can i connect to it using my wifi
[18:28] <c_korn> ok, for the record: had to add this line in /etc/vsftpd.conf: seccomp_sandbox=NO
[18:28] <Seveas> jackhum: install openssh-server on your laptop, connectbot on your client and open connectbot.
[18:28] <tgm4883> jackhum: you'd need a ssh click for your phone
[18:29] <jackhum> Seveas, what should i install on my machine again
[18:29] <Seveas> openssh-server
[18:31] <jackhum> Seveas, what is the hostname of my pc
[18:31] <Seveas> just put in the ip
[18:32] <TheMontyChrist> is there anything I can do to speed up ubuntu on an external usb drive?  I've tried 1: usb flash (128 gb), 2: spinning wheel (thought maybe flash had crappy controller).  I'm finding the latter - which I'm installing now - is unberably slow too.
[18:32] <Seveas> TheMontyChrist: usb3
[18:32] <TheMontyChrist> yep
[18:32] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: usb will always be slower, and flash devices are also slow as a storage medium, hence why they are cheap
[18:33] <akik> TheMontyChrist: external ssd?
[18:33] <TheMontyChrist> well, it was external flash - slow, now I"m installing on external usb 3.0 spinning wheel hdd
[18:33] <TheMontyChrist> it's slow too
[18:33] <ikonia> the controllers for external disk are normally cheap chipsets too (hence why it's cheap) and are not great
[18:33] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: unsurprising
[18:33] <TheMontyChrist> I expect it to be slower, but at times it can be unberable
[18:33] <ikonia> I wonder if your ports are being recognised as usb3
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> just curious, but how could you check from the command line
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> ..next to looking @ the board
[18:34] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: the syslog
[18:34] <TheMontyChrist> on the back, it says I'm plugged into a 3
[18:37] <TheMontyChrist> usb4-3 <- does that mean it's usb 3?
[18:37] <Dirkos> I have a problem that my device is not grabbing any wifi signals anymore after some updates. I checked this topic and all packages are installed at this point and are to the latest version: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214110
[18:37] <Dirkos> What is the next step todo?
[18:37] <Dirkos> firmware-b43-installer is already the newest version (1:019-2).
[18:38] <computeruser> maybe it is installed twice
[18:38] <computeruser> check if you have an extra wlan0
[18:38] <computeruser> after that I don't know
[18:39] <computeruser> what did you update from what version to what
[18:39] <Dirkos> no i have 1 wlan0
[18:39] <computeruser> any wlan1?
[18:40] <Dirkos> nope
[18:40] <Dirkos> eth0 and wlan0
[18:40] <computeruser> check your conf
[18:40] <computeruser> maybe some clues in there
[18:40] <Dirkos> computeruser: Which one?
[18:40] <computeruser> there are a few
[18:40] <TheMontyChrist> Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 5000M     |__ Port 3: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=uas, 5000M /
[18:40] <computeruser> I can't put my finger on it
[18:41] <computeruser> what version of ubuntu did you start with
[18:41] <TheMontyChrist> I'm thinking w/ lsusb -t -> 5000M means it's three as I see there are 480M's too
[18:41] <computeruser> and did you update the kernel
[18:41] <Dirkos> 15.10
[18:41] <computeruser> are you still on 15.10?
[18:41] <Dirkos> let me check
[18:41] <ioria> !wily
[18:41] <n00bie> <- dropped ubuntu and went kde neon
[18:41] <n00bie> and so far im pleased
[18:41] <n00bie> no bugs yet
[18:42] <n00bie> fast and responsive
[18:42] <Dirkos> computeruser: nah i was wrong ofc
[18:42] <Dirkos> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[18:42] <computeruser> thats what you started with?
[18:42] <Dirkos> yes
[18:42] <computeruser> then you did apt-get update?
[18:42] <computeruser> I mean then you did apt-get upgrade?
[18:43] <jackhum> i have some program lying inside some directory which is in a directory. I want to run this program , but i dont want to do cd and dive into that directory to run it. How can i just make run by single command
[18:43] <Dirkos> computeruser: yes all 100% up to date
[18:43] <computeruser> noobie dropping ubuntu for kde doesn't exactly make sense
[18:43] <computeruser> one is a distro one is a desktop environment
[18:43] <computeruser> so you still have ubuntu
[18:44] <computeruser> but you dropped unity
[18:44] <computeruser> I think
[18:44] <EriC^^> jackhum: /path/to/dir/program or export PATH="/path/to/dir:${PATH}"  you can add the latter to ~/.bashrc so you don't have to run it every single time
[18:44] <Dirkos> so what i read on the forum was that i needed the custom broadcom driver but it is still failing
[18:44] <n00bie> computeruser: kde neon is a distro
[18:44] <n00bie> made by kde
[18:44] <n00bie> based on ubuntu
[18:44] <computeruser> oh ok
[18:44] <computeruser> my bad
[18:45] <Bashing-om> Dirkos: " eth0 and wlan0 " are inconsistent IDs with systemd (16.04) . As to the fix I have no idea .
[18:45] <n00bie> the actual team that develops kde makes kde neon, and i guess thats why it seems so well made
[18:45] <computeruser> Dirkos can you check if you upgraded your kernel
[18:45] <computeruser> that probably broke your wifi
[18:45] <n00bie> its simplistic and minimal, but its fast
[18:45] <computeruser> so you need that wifi driver compiled for your kernel I think
[18:45] <n00bie> and things just seem to work.. no bugs
[18:45] <n00bie> no hickups
[18:45] <n00bie> no lags
[18:45] <computeruser> what is kde neon based on?
[18:45] <Dirkos> computeruser: will do later then since will take some time :-) thanks anyways
[18:45] <n00bie> computeruser: its ubuntu underneath
[18:45] <jackhum> EriC^^, do i need to add this export path line in bashrc
[18:46] <EriC^^> jackhum: yeah
[18:46] <Ddddkdkdk> Hey, I just insatlled ubuntu server. I didn't configure my network in the setup, now my internet isn't working. How do I configure it now?
[18:46] <Ddddkdkdk> ifconfig -a shows 3 ethernet devices, how do I enable one?
[18:46] <jackhum> EriC^^, what is this $ sign for
[18:46] <computeruser> do you have access to the machine directly?
[18:46] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, in /etc/network/interface
[18:46] <computeruser> or over network
[18:46] <Ddddkdkdk> I have access to the machine
[18:47] <jackhum> EriC^^, ${PATH)
[18:47] <computeruser> you just need to setup your network settings
[18:47] <Ddddkdkdk> ioria, /etc/network/interface only shows
[18:47] <DocMAX> ubuntu desktop on another DISPLAY:! ?
[18:47] <Ddddkdkdk> auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[18:47] <Ddddkdkdk> computeruser, yes, I have no idea how to do it in terminal.
[18:47] <EriC^^> jackhum: ${PATH} means the variable PATH
[18:47] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, yes, you need to add your eth0 or whatever name comes up from ip a
[18:47] <Ddddkdkdk> I plugged in my cable, and it's dhcp
[18:47] <computeruser> I don't either
[18:48] <computeruser> it varies from distro to distro
[18:48] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  dhcp on a server  ?
[18:48] <computeruser> I know on kali but ubuntu I usually don't change anything I just do dhcp by default
[18:48] <Ddddkdkdk> ioria, I'm at home, just trying to configure something
[18:48] <n00bie> you guys that have ubuntu issues cause ive had, should look at kde neon
[18:48] <Ddddkdkdk> it's for LAN use anyway.
[18:49] <n00bie> i chose the stable lts version
[18:49] <Ddddkdkdk> there's 3 different ethernet devices, is it wrong to enable all of them?
[18:49] <computeruser> I think there is a package called network-manager on ubuntu
[18:49] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  auto eth0 ;  iface eth0  inet dhcp                (on different lines)
[18:49] <computeruser> maybe ip link but I don't want to give bad advice
[18:49] <everson> Heya. Upgraded to 16.04.2. When running Chrome, this really lag. I think it only happens when I have Chrome open on multiple Workspaces.
[18:50] <Ddddkdkdk> computeruser, I can't really install anything :P
[18:50] <computeruser> I think someone answered you
[18:50] <Ddddkdkdk> ioria, that goes in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:50] <Ddddkdkdk> right?
[18:50] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, yep, btw no network-manager on server (without a gui)
[18:50] <Ddddkdkdk> Ah
[18:50] <Ddddkdkdk> Thanks
[18:51] <Ddddkdkdk> should the name be eth0, or whatever comes up in my ifconfig -a?
[18:51] <Ddddkdkdk> since it's something weird
[18:51] <Ddddkdkdk> enp11s0f0
[18:51] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, check first 'ip a'
[18:51] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, ok, so not eth0 but that
[18:52] <Ddddkdkdk> Alright, what am I checking in ip a?
[18:52] <Bashing-om> ioria: Ddddkdkdk systemd ? then 'eth0' should be changed to a different ID ?
[18:52] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, the ethernet intrface name
[18:52] <ioria> Bashing-om, yes
[18:52] <Ddddkdkdk> there's 3 of them, should I enable all of them?
[18:52] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, you have 3 nics ?
[18:53] <Ddddkdkdk> in ip-a, I get: 1: lo, 2: enp11s0f0, 3: enp11s0f1, 4: enp0s29f0u2
[18:53] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, well, go with the first :þ
[18:54] <Ddddkdkdk> Alright, I'll try
[18:54] <Ubuntu_mate> Hi everyone. I used the Startup Disk Creator to create a bootable usb stick so I could install Ubuntu on my laptop. But after doing this process nothing happens when I plug in the drive. When I try to boot from it, the computer acts as if its not even there. Though lsusb shows it's there. Yes I set computer to boot from USB. Any thoughts? Thanks!
[18:54] <Ddddkdkdk> should it work as soon as I save it, or do I need to reboot?
[18:54] <computeruser> if you have two RJ45 ports then that would explain  2: enp11s0f0, 3: enp11s0f1
[18:54] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, reboot
[18:55] <akik> Ddddkdkdk: funnily enough, that naming is called "predictable"
[18:55] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk, you can restart networking, but reboot works
[18:55] <Bashing-om> Ddddkdkdk: Plig in the cable to 1sr NIC - see if you can ping your router . Then get the systemd ID for the working interface .
[18:55] <Bashing-om> plug*
[18:55] <Ddddkdkdk> thanks
[18:55] <Ddddkdkdk> 3 RJ45 ports :P
[18:55] <DocMAX> how do i start a ubuntu desktop on an existing X session?
[18:56] <Bashing-om> DocMAX: Depends on the release . upstart/systemd ?
[18:57] <DocMAX> i created a DISPLAY :1 with vncserver
[18:57] <DocMAX> now its black and i want a ubuntu desktop (second one)
[18:58] <root_578> clear
[19:02] <Sparrow__> Ubuntu_mate, Is efi or fastbot on in the bios
[19:02] <Sparrow__> boot
[19:03] <Ubuntu_mate> Sparrow: fastboot is disabled.
[19:03] <Ddddkdkdk> hm, doesn't work
[19:04] <Ddddkdkdk> I tried all the RJ45 ports
[19:05] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  paste your /etc/network/interface   and check /etc/network/interface.d directory
[19:07] <blackbird1> Hi, How to upgrade boost in xenial ?
[19:08] <Ddddkdkdk> https://pastebin.com/XDNP5U30
[19:08] <Ddddkdkdk>  etc/network/interface.d is empty
[19:08] <blackbird1> The installed version is: 1.58.0.1ubuntu1
[19:08] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  two lines, not 3
[19:09] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  iface enp11s0f1 inet dhcp   (on the same line)
[19:09] <Ddddkdkdk> Ah
[19:09] <Ddddkdkdk> sorry
[19:10] <SwedeMike> blackbird1: what do you want to upgrade to?
[19:10] <Ddddkdkdk> rebooting again :P
[19:10] <anddam> hello
[19:10] <anddam> is "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915" worrisome?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> Ddddkdkdk: /etc/network/interfaces.d needs an 's' on interface.d :)
[19:10] <blackbird1> SwedeMike: boost
[19:11] <anddam> I just updated a headless machine I connect via wifi
[19:11] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  ^ Bashing-om
[19:11] <SwedeMike> blackbird1: yes, and the version you said that is already installed is the version that comes with 16.04. So what's the problem?
[19:11] <everson> *bump* Heya. Upgraded to 16.04.2. When running Chrome, this really lag. I think it only happens when I have Chrome open on multiple Workspaces. Is this normal?
[19:12] <blackbird1> SwedeMike: I try to upgrade boost to the last version; which is 1.64
[19:12] <Ddddkdkdk> Bashing-om: Was just a typo :P
[19:13] <Ddddkdkdk> O
[19:13] <Ddddkdkdk> "A start job is running for Raise network interfaces"
[19:13] <Bashing-om> everson: Might be "normal: what DE and how much ram is installed ? Takes the hosses now-a-days to run the flagship editions .
[19:13] <Ddddkdkdk> I guess it was that it wasn't in one line :P
[19:13] <Ddddkdkdk> Might work now
[19:14] <Ddddkdkdk> since I didn't get that before
[19:14] <SwedeMike> blackbird1: why? what problem are you trying to solve?
[19:14] <everson> Bashing-om, I'm running a quad core i5 with 16gb ram; on 14.04 LTS it ran perfectly for what that's worth
[19:15] <Bashing-om> everson: Then, no -- slow chrome is not the norm .
[19:15] <blackbird1> SwedeMike, I'm trying to install mapnik, it demands boost >= 1.58
[19:16] <Sparrow__> !find boost
[19:16] <Sparrow__> !find mapnik
[19:17] <Sparrow__> blackbird1, Trying to install from our repos our outside source
[19:18] <SwedeMike> blackbird1: mapnik is available in packaged form in xenial already.
[19:19] <Ddddkdkdk> Now it shows the interface in ifconfig
[19:19] <Ddddkdkdk> but I still can't ping
[19:19] <blackbird1> Sparrow__, SwedeMike, I installed mapnik by: sudo apt install libmapnik-dev
[19:19] <Ddddkdkdk> and I can't see the IP
[19:19] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  ping 8.8.8.8
[19:19] <Ddddkdkdk> I get network is unreachable
[19:20] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  route
[19:20] <Ddddkdkdk> same thing if I try to ping the router
[19:20] <blackbird1> Sparrow__, SwedeMike: Version: 3.0.9+ds-2~xenial0 --> Ok for mapnik
[19:21] <virtualriot> Andriirv used to have a setting where you could set the delay for the auto join
[19:21] <virtualriot> It doesn't now and that sucks for registered required channel's
[19:21] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  'route' shows your gateway / router ?
[19:21] <blackbird1> but libboost-dev it always install the 1.58 version
[19:21] <virtualriot> So I'm off topic right now
[19:22] <Ddddkdkdk> ioria, nope, doesn't show anything
[19:22] <anddam> what's the proper way to setup wpa_supplicant and dhclient at boot? writing my own systemd unit?
[19:23] <anddam> or does ubuntu provide something already there to hook into, like wpa_supplicant@interface unit of Arch?
[19:23] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  dpkg -l | grep dhcp
[19:24] <virtualriot> I'm bored
[19:24] <Ddddkdkdk> isc-dhcp-client and isc-dhcp-common
[19:24] <Ddddkdkdk> wait
[19:24] <Ddddkdkdk> I tried route now
[19:24] <Ddddkdkdk> it shows the gateway
[19:24] <Ddddkdkdk> and I can ping it
[19:25] <Ddddkdkdk> oh it works now
[19:25] <everson> Bashing-om, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1628866
[19:25] <Ddddkdkdk> o.o
[19:25] <everson> Bashing-om, at least it's been reported :)
[19:25] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  ping www.google.com
[19:25] <Ddddkdkdk> yeah, everything works
[19:25] <Ddddkdkdk> thanks ioria :)
[19:26] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  good job
[19:26] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  update && upgarde
[19:26] <Ddddkdkdk> yeah, already running :)
[19:26] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgarde
[19:27] <ioria> *upgrade
[19:27] <Ddddkdkdk> difference between upgrade and full-upgrade?
[19:27] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  the second is full :þ
[19:27] <Ddddkdkdk> haha :P
[19:28] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  not only pkgs, but also kernels
[19:30] <Ddddkdkdk> Ah
[19:30] <Ddddkdkdk> 300 MB, not bad.
[19:30] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  what server is that ? 17.04 ?
[19:31] <Ddddkdkdk> 16.04
[19:31] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  ok, good
[19:31] <Ddddkdkdk> 16.04.02
[19:31] <Ddddkdkdk> 2+
[19:31] <Ddddkdkdk> *
[19:34] <Bashing-om> evert: :) reading .
[19:34] <cesdo> Hello all
[19:34] <cesdo> After last update, firefox line writes (for example): search linux.com... Before that, it (searching servers) takes less a second, but now it takes 5-10 seconds!
[19:35] <cesdo> What kind of problem it is?
[19:36] <cesdo> Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit
[19:38] <anddam> this page is absolutely confusing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA_Supplicant
[19:39] <anddam> I was able to use wpa_supplicant and dhclient to connect via wifi, what's the proper way to start that at boot in 16.04?
[19:40] <ioria> anddam, if you use NM, you don't need that page ...
[19:41] <chris_> hi, all, is this, or is there an Ubuntu tech support channel?
[19:42] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  NM will raise your interface at boot
[19:42] <Ddddkdkdk> ?
[19:42] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  sorry, not for you
[19:42] <Ddddkdkdk> oh
[19:42] <Ddddkdkdk> confused
[19:43] <ioria> anddam,   NM will raise your interface at boot
[19:44] <anddam> ioria: what's NM?
[19:44] <ioria> anddam,  network-manager
[19:44] <anddam> isn't that a Xorg session agent?
[19:45] <anddam> this is a headless server, actually a wall-mounted NUC, it has no display manager running
[19:45] <ioria> anddam,  ah, ok
[19:46] <anddam> I can write a unit file (well I'd be getting one off the net) but my point is this seems such a common thing to do, configure wifi at boot, that I figure Ubuntu has some hook
[19:48] <ioria> anddam,  i don't think you need a unit, just a a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpasupplicant.conf and a /etc/nt/interface configured  ...
[19:48] <chris_> Anyone, know anything about installing a Konica Minolta Bizhub c3350 Printer in Ubuntu. Getting an error that printer has insecure permissions, so won't print
[19:49] <anddam> ioria: I have my wpa_supplicant.conf already
[19:49] <anddam> that's basically just the SSID and the psk
[19:49] <anddam> you mean a stanza in /etc/networks/interfaces right?
[19:49] <anddam> good ol' debian way
[19:49] <ioria> anddam,  sure
[19:50] <latino31> what is this error im seeing quite often and im not sure if it is causing some freezing issues in 17.04...http://anonypaste.com/a84221
[19:50] <anddam> will check that, thanks
[19:50] <ioria> ok
[19:52] <ioria> anddam,  if can help, i put the wpasupplicant command in the interface file : pre-up wpa_supplicant -iwlx00304f -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B
[19:53] <Ddddkdkdk> my cpu has 8 threads, can I force a process to use a specific one?
[19:53] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  yes, you could
[19:54] <Ddddkdkdk> I want to run game servers on it, 1 per thread should be okay
[19:58] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  run 'man taskset' , but i'am not good at it
[19:59] <Ddddkdkdk> thanks
[20:00] <ioria> Ddddkdkdk,  http://www.glennklockwood.com/hpc-howtos/process-affinity.html
[20:00] <anddam> ioria: it does help, I'm saving it for tomorrow, gotta go to sleep
[20:00] <ioria> anddam, good night
[20:02] <latino31> The name org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files
[20:02] <latino31> what is that
[20:11] <virtualriot> How many supports do I have to do to be a moderator here?
[20:12] <Sparrow__>  That is not how they are picked
[20:12] <virtualriot> Oh okay
[20:12] <latino31> virtualriot, be rude to a few people and you will get bumped up for consideration
[20:12] <virtualriot> I hardly doubt that
[20:13] <CodeMouse92__> You are *really* cruising, aren't you?
[20:13] <latino31> virtualriot, stick around
[20:13] <latino31> kek
[20:13] <virtualriot> For sure
[20:13] <Sparrow__> Nice trolling latino31
[20:13] <latino31> thanks Sparrow__
[20:13] <virtualriot> There's a lazy dog on my lap
[20:13] <latino31> ive seen how some of the helpers act over the last year so its kind of true
[20:13] <virtualriot> I think I'll keep it
[20:14] <latino31> but it is better i think now Sparrow__
[20:14] <Sparrow__> latino31, Please stop complaining about the free help
[20:14] <latino31> rofl
[20:14] <latino31> if its true its true
[20:14] <sweetheart> Praise freenode for letting me take other people's nicks
[20:14] <latino31> who said i was complaining
[20:14] <latino31> he asked a question and i answered
[20:14] <CodeMouse92__> While we're at it, don't be surprised when moderators *return fire*. If you start out with belligerence, you won't get treated nicely.
[20:15] <latino31> CodeMouse92__, i was responding to a question..
[20:15] <Sparrow__> learly complaining about the attitude of our OPs.  Please stop.. One Last Time
[20:15] <oerheks> lets get back to ubuntu support, please, thanks.
[20:16] <Scarpa18> Hello
[20:16] <Scarpa18> Can someone answer a question?
[20:16] <bekks> Depends on your question.
[20:16] <Sparrow__> Just Ask,
[20:16] <latino31> oerheks, you can start with this then :)... what is this GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files
[20:16] <Scarpa18> What Ubuntu should I install? 16.04 or 17?
[20:17] <Scarpa18> I.m new
[20:17] <latino31> ive tried searching it.
[20:17] <CodeMouse92__> Scarpa18: It's kinda a question of what you value more - cutting edge features or stability?
[20:17] <Scarpa18> My plan is to start to learn today to use a VPS in June-July
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Scarpa18  16.04 if you want long support, 17.04 if you want the latest an greatest
[20:17] <CodeMouse92__> Ah, well, if you're looking at running a server, use the LTS (16.04 right now)
[20:17] <Scarpa18> OK Thanks!
[20:17] <Sparrow__> Install both.. dual boot
[20:18] <latino31> well Scarpa18 if you want your screen to freeze once a week like mine use 17.04 if not use 16.04
[20:18] <Scarpa18> I just wanna learn to use a VPS
[20:18] <chris_> Hi, there. Anyone know anything about "insecure permission" errors for installing printer drivers?
[20:18] <Scarpa18> :P
[20:18] <oerheks> latino31, what are you doing when you read this? gtk programs started from terminal often give these warnings
[20:19] <CodeMouse92__> Scarpa18: I recommend 16.04, then. More docs oriented towards it, more stable, etc.
[20:19] <latino31> oh okay oerheks that might be when i was playing with bleachbit rooted..thanks that might be it
[20:19] <latino31> root
[20:20] <latino31> oerheks, i thought the error might have something to do with my weekly screen freezes but i guess not :P
[20:22] <oerheks> latino31, i see, you can ignore those warnings, and you can detach bleachbit from terminal to avoid this
[20:22] <latino31> well i have gtksu i think its called the gui sudo
[20:23] <oerheks> indeed, gksu
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[20:35] <santy> buenas
[20:35] <santy> hola
[20:35] <iwakuralain> what lol
[20:35] <mpmc> I love you too!
[20:35] <LjL> we all want something
[20:35] <iwakuralain> I wounder what the server is like
[20:35] <ghostcube> free porn? uhhh
[20:35] <iwakuralain> should I join it?
[20:36] <rogue> I wouldn't.
[20:36] <santy> alguien español????
[20:36] <ericnoan> yes you must
[20:36] <PlasmaStar> It sucks. Like 3 people there.
[20:36] <redrabbit> gross
[20:36] <iwakuralain> why not rogue?
[20:36] <ericnoan> and report back
[20:36] <rogue> Dude.
[20:36] <iwakuralain> okay
[20:36] <iwakuralain> I will
[20:36] <iwakuralain> maybe
[20:36] <iwakuralain> if i can figure out how to
[20:36] <nicomachus> !ot | all
[20:36] <ericnoan> don't click on any links or download anything lol
[20:36] <iwakuralain> do you think it has illegal stuff on it?
[20:37] <rogue> oh lord.
[20:37] <PlasmaStar> It didn't when I went on there. But it was labeled "Free Speech Zone", which is some times code word...
[20:37] <nicomachus> ALL: Please stay on topic. This channel is for Ubuntu support. If you don't have a support question, please chat elsewhere.
[20:37] <Bob8989|3> ericnoan you sound very stupid
[20:38] <redrabbit> creeps be creepin
[20:38] <iwakuralain> im sorry nicomachus im too lazy to register...
[20:38] <nicomachus> use #ubuntu-discuss then
[20:38] <nicomachus> or ##chat
[20:39] <santy> hi Can anybody help me??
[20:39] <nicomachus> !ask | santy
[20:40] <santy> I need help with an IRCd-hybrid server
[20:40] <nicomachus> ok great.
[20:40] <santy> mp please
[20:40] <nicomachus> I have no idea what you need help with, you'll have to explain it
[20:41] <nicomachus> and don't PM me
[20:41] <redrabbit> santy: stick to main channels so everybody can profit
[20:41] <redrabbit> that's how it works
[20:41] <nicomachus> !pm
[20:42] <santy> I'm from Argentina I'm not good with English, I'm going to try to explain the problem
[20:42] <nicomachus> There's a Spanish channel at #ubuntu-es
[20:42] <santy> No one answers !!
[20:43] <santy> How do i make permanent rooms in ircd-hybrid
[20:43] <nicomachus> then we'll all try our best here. But please explain the problem.
[20:43] <santy> ?¿
[20:44] <nicomachus> that has nothing to do with Ubuntu...
[20:45] <santy> nop
[20:45] <latino31> santy...irc.chathispano.com/6667
[20:45] <santy> It has nothing to do but I need help !!!
[20:45] <nicomachus> santy: this is only Ubuntu support. You'll have to get help somewhere else.
[20:45] <latino31> santy go to that irc somone can help you there
[20:46] <santy> ok
[20:47] <santy> Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.chathispano.com/6667 port 6667
[20:47] <latino31> hang on
[20:47] <jedininjarob> guys how do you use this:     sys.stdin.readline().strip()        )))))    and send it to a file as a string.....it contains a line im trying to capture
[20:48] <jedininjarob> hey pavlos
[21:02] <Pyro_Killer> 	Hello, I have a simple question that I need answered, when you use tasksel or install Oracle Java a purple or blue "GUI" thing pops up, is there any way to invoke a similar thing through shell?
[21:08] <netcrime> Hello. I have setted up my cron job to run python file. When I run the file with same command "/usr/bin/python /home/root/bouquet_updater/enigma/main.py" it works but when I cron job runs it it doesnt. I see in cron logs it does run it. What might be the problem?
[21:08] <Viking667> Hi all. I've noticed a strange problem recently, I have a full HD screen (1920x1080), connected to a Radeon ATI HD3450 that previously supported full-hd fine. Now when I run xrandr, the max resolution shows as 1440x900
[21:10] <Pyro_Killer> netcrime: you should send the ouput of the job to a file to check whats going on i.e. : "/usr/bin/python /home/root/bouquet_updater/enigma/main.py > somefile.log"
[21:10] <Viking667> I don't have an Xorg.conf file in /etc/X11, so what I want to know is what I need to check next.
[21:10] <netcrime> Pyro_Killer: I have setted up logging in my python script but it doesn't create any log when ran by cron job
[21:11] <Pyro_Killer> If the job doesn't run the right way, it won't start the log file itself, that modification will log any error from the terminal
[21:12] <netcrime> oh ok
[21:13] <netcrime> Pyro_killer: this will output log file in runned file dir ?
[21:13] <Pyro_Killer> yeah, but you might as well use a full path to a log file
[21:15] <netcrime> Pyro_killer: will try.
[21:15] <TheNH813> So, I have the issue with my WiFi, what's a good place to ask about a router problem?
[21:15] <TheNH813> I usually ask all my problem here, but that's not specifically ubuntu related.
[21:16] <netcrime> Pyro_Killer: it did output a file but it's empty
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Friver module loaded ? what shows ' lsmod | grep radeon ; lsmod | grep amdgpu ' -- amdgpu if running 16.04+ .
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Driver*
[21:19] <Viking667> Bashing: I'll check. Hang on please
[21:20] <Viking667> but Xorg makes extended references to the Radeon driver.
[21:20] <Viking667> And the radeon kernel module is loaded.
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Good to read the log file . Would have been my next suggestion if no driver is loaded .
[21:23] <Viking667> Which log file would you like me to pastebin?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> VoidWhisperer: /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells the tale for what X thinks .
[21:24] <Viking667> yup
[21:24] <Viking667> What else would you like, just for further reference?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Viking667: ^^ sorry VoidWhisperer :(
[21:25] <Bashing-om> Viking667: I got a small mind . one step at a time . see what is and where to go to :)
[21:27] <Viking667> I'll tack on a ps-ax too (gnome-desktop here, I can't STAND Unity)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Viking667: I can use unity . but do prefer other DEs .
[21:28] <TheNH813> Personally, I like XFCE the best. d:
[21:30] <Viking667> Oh, I can USE unity, I just can't STAND it. I put up with it for a whole month before I gave up in disgust back in the days when Unity came out.
[21:30] <TheNH813> It's a lot better now, but my main issue with it is RAM consumption when I have a ton of programs open. And the fact Mir crashes some software I use.
[21:30] <TheNH813> So I use XFCE with X.Org only.
[21:31] <Komputerfreak> hi
[21:32] <TheNH813> Hello.
[21:32] <TheNH813> You need help with something?
[21:33] <Viking667> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24533051
[21:33] <Komputerfreak> i want to record music with ubuntu studio but i have very bad latency
[21:33] <Viking667> whoops, tack on a / to that url.
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Viking667: reading .
[21:33] <TheNH813> Okay, so you want to get better latency in which program?
[21:33] <TheNH813> @Komputerfreak
[21:33] <TheNH813> LMMS? Ardour? Audacity?
[21:34] <Komputerfreak> ardour
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Viking667: While reading .. what kind of IRQ issues that you need " acpi_enforce_resources=lax " as a boot parameter ?
[21:35] <TheNH813> Are you using Jack or Pulseaudio?
[21:35] <Komputerfreak> jack
[21:35] <TheNH813> How many cores is your CPU and how much RAM?
[21:35] <TheNH813> Frequency in GHz might also be helpful.
[21:35] <Komputerfreak> i5 quadcore, 4 GB RAM
[21:36] <Viking667> Bashing-om: I'm not entirely sure what I put that in for, but I did have a reason. I have a 2008 machine (Q8400 Core/2 Quad 2.66GHz, 4GB memory)
[21:36] <TheNH813> @Komputerfreak Okay, that should be enough to get down to at least 15ms from my experience.
[21:37] <TheNH813> Are you using a realtime lowlatency or standard kernel?
[21:37] <Komputerfreak> i am using a standard kernel
[21:38] <enlightenmepls> Hello folks; I seem to be having some bootloader troubles.
[21:38] <Komputerfreak> i tried to compile a rt kernel but it fails to boot
[21:38] <TheNH813> If you're not running one, using the linux-image-lowlatency package can help.
[21:38] <Komputerfreak> ah ok, i missed that
[21:38] <TheNH813> It's designed to give the hardware more priority to get lower latency, as the name implies.
[21:39] <TheNH813> So maybe give that a try, and then adjust the jack settings again to she what you can get.
[21:39] <Komputerfreak> ok i will try it
[21:39] <TheNH813> In extreme cases, a different DE then Unity could help if it uses less memory, etc, but that shouldn't be too much an issue for a quadcore.
[21:39] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: What kind of errors/troubles?
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> Here's the situation: old computer was dualbooting ubuntu and windows (every time it would start up, I would see the GRUB menu asking me if I was going into ubuntu or windows). I recently got a new computer and brought my SSD over to the new computer (to my knowledge, ubuntu was on the SSD). When I loaded the new computer, the flashing underscore w
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> ould skip around the screen and go back into the BIOS. I checked the boot order of the BIOS on my old computer to find out that a hard drive has boot priority, so I brought the hard drive over to the new computer. On the new computer, I can now access my Windows boot.. but still no Ubuntu. It seems my bootloader has gotten fucked? Or lost into the
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> void or something? Can someone help me out with this?
[21:40] <TheNH813> First of all, is it a UEFI or BIOS bootloader?
[21:40] <Komputerfreak> what does the image.lowlatency install? not a kernel?
[21:40] <TheNH813> linux-image-lowlatency installs a lowlatency optimized kernel.
[21:40] <Viking667> Komputerfreak: yes, I believe that's a kernel
[21:40] <enlightenmepls> TheNH813 , what's the easiest way to tell?
[21:41] <Komputerfreak> ah, neat! so no need to compile! thanks very much.
[21:41] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: Go into your motherboard configuration, and check under boot options.
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Kinda stumped here as X says " 128.911] (II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (hsync out of range) " . Also not sure why the system wants to load FGLRX - as it is no longer supported . Still reading.
[21:41] <enlightenmepls> I'm pretty sure it's BIOS, because I remember at the partition stage it was asking me to make another partition for EFI, and so I just had toggled the non UEFI usb and installed it that way.
[21:41] <TheNH813> IF there's a setting that says UEFI/Legacy/UEFI+Legacy, make sure it's set to UEFI and Legacy
[21:42] <Viking667> I removed FGLRX back when the system was upgraded to 16.04
[21:42] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: Or just legacy.
[21:42] <TheNH813> If that dosen't work, you might just need to reinstall the bootloader.
[21:43] <enlightenmepls> How would I reinstall the bootloader?
[21:43] <enlightenmepls> And to what? The SSD? Or the hard drive?
[21:44] <TheNH813> You'd boot up a live USB, install the boot-repair package, and run the utility.
[21:44] <yayster> Hello, everyone.
[21:44] <TheNH813> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:44] <TheNH813> @yayster: Hello there.
[21:46] <yayster> I've been having a really difficult time getting my .Xresources to load upon boot up.  I ended up creating a ~/.config/upstart/my-upstart-script.conf to get it loaded, but I am thinking that there is a better what to do it.
[21:47] <yayster> this is what I created:
[21:47] <yayster> start on desktop-start
[21:47] <yayster> stop on desktop-end
[21:47] <yayster> script
[21:47] <yayster>   xrdb -load ~/.Xresources
[21:47] <yayster> end script
[21:50] <yayster> I got muted by the Drone.  * sigh *
[21:50] <Viking667> Bashing-om: Hm. I added a modeline for 1920x1080 manually (xrandr --newmode .....) and that worked fine.
[21:51] <yayster> I can manually load the .Xresources and the next xterm I open up is fine.  It is the first one opening up I want to work correctly.
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Great . current kernel is " 4.4.0-77-generic " ya should update/upgrade .
[21:59] <Viking667> Bashing-om: I haven't upgraded to 17.04 yet, I only just upgraded to 16.10 about a month or two ago
[22:02] <Bashing-om> Viking667: "BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic" . For some reason you are booting a xenial (16.04) kernel .
[22:02] <Viking667> *blink*
[22:03] <Viking667> 4.8.0-49-generic is what I'm running (uname -r)
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Well, not according to the x log . Hummm .
[22:04] <Viking667> Hm, I smell a rat.
[22:05] <Viking667> Oh. That would explain it. The Xorg.0.log dates from bleeping January!!!
[22:05] <Viking667> *headdesk*
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Ho kay ! also "UUID=a73c3161-ce5e-4c0d-9488-cbbbf58f2d93" raises a eye brow . as to the why ?
[22:07] <Viking667> the boot UUID
[22:07] <Viking667> Now I'm trying to figure out where on earth all my Xorg logging's gone. It doesn't even seem to be here.
[22:08] <Pathur> Im hoping to get some fresh eyes on this problem - How might i navigate this GRUB obstacle? https://i.imgur.com/MPJMys5.jpg  it was with an older Ubuntu installation, 14 I think, had some big problem and file system went into read only mode too, can still view partitions from a live cd/usb , some directories have switched to being plain text files now, some have configuration data in them.. all strange, some boot repair info here
[22:08] <Pathur> https://pastebin.com/tnMz86QN  sda1 is the problem
[22:08] <Viking667> does stuff still get pushed into /var/log?
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Viking667: K .. just checking that the UUID is valid for the current boot partition . Mine: "[     7.907] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-77-generic root=UUID=d9c2a8e6-d014-42a6-846f-7e7892f4aef5 ro " .
[22:11] <Viking667> lol. /boot isn't on /
[22:12] <Viking667> the interesting thing I've found out is that no logging has been happening for Xorg since January! Yeesh.
[22:12] <Viking667> Is there an Xorg equivalent of dmesg?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Viking667: If it helps " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23308 May  7 12:03 /var/log/Xorg.0.log ". You should have today's boot .
[22:13] <Viking667> Bashing-om: It's most certainly not today's boot. the date is 10 January
[22:14] <Viking667> I might have to reboot, though I'm pretty sure the CMOS clock is also correct.
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Just palying the devil's advocate . Number of things on that system not as expected .
[22:15] <Viking667> yah. It's been running since about 2009 on various versions of Ubuntu
[22:16] <Viking667> I don't have to reboot, hwclock tells me CMOS clock's within 0.3 seconds of system
[22:18] <Viking667> I mean, I can put resolutions into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-custom-video-mode.conf manually but I suspect that's not the right way around this problem.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Viking667: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ configs here are perfectly legit as far as I know . That is the next "path" X looks at .
[22:21] <Viking667> AH well. I could always upgrade to 17.04 and see how badly my system gets messed up by THAT upgrade.
[22:22] <Viking667> Bashing-om: yes, but why should I add resolutions when Xorg's clearly supposed to pick them up for itself?
[22:23] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Well, upgrading will not 'fix' a problem generally . And 17.04 is only supported for 9 months . Then ya got to do the 17.10 thing and finally 18.04 to get back on LTS .
[22:24] <Viking667> mmm hmm. But I wasn't aiming for LTS anyhow.
[22:25] <Viking667> I've had times when I've installed LTS because it's been the next one in the sequence, but then it doesn't prompt me to upgrade six months later (though I know how to fix that, at least)
[22:25] <Bashing-om> Viking667: :) . Well with good backups . all things are possible .
[22:25] <Viking667> lol. Backups.
[22:27] <Viking667> So. How do I get Xorg to log?
[22:29] <minimec> Viking667: It does it automatically. You will find the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <Viking667> minimec: you weren't following my conversation... my latest Xorg.0.log shows up with a date of 10 January 2017
[22:31] <Viking667> And that's from today's bootup.
[22:31] <Viking667> well, not today.
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Viking667: anacron installed ' dpkg -l anacron ' Is my 1st guess .
[22:31] <Viking667> hm? how would anacron be relevant?
[22:32] <Viking667> (and yes, it is installed)
[22:32] <Volog> t"est
[22:32] <Volog> test
[22:32] <Viking667> fail
[22:33] <minimec> Viking667: indeed I did not follow the conversation. Yet I am surprised that it doesn't. Did you delete or renamed the file once, just for a try?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Not relevant to the situation as 'anacron' is installed byt to answer the question read " cat /etc/crontab " .
[22:34] <Viking667> minimec: haven't tried that (removing Xorg.0.log) but I would have assumed that logs should be being rotated.
[22:35] <Viking667> Ah well, I'll stash all the Xorg logs into a tarball, then reboot xorg, and see what that does.
[22:35] <Viking667> Back soon, folks.
[22:35] <minimec> Viking667: I agree, but sometimes...
[22:48] <guest123> I am wondering what the kernel version of execv()  function are i.e the loader program process /pid  that linux uses with its process scheduler
[22:49] <guest123> when creating the task_struct and loading /running the new program/process
[22:51] <guest123> The scheduler from my understanding uses the timer interrupts to switch to different task_struct and resume execution of the process but for new process i would imagine there has to be a loader program that initially loads the program into memory ,and creates the task_struct for the scheduler to switch to
[22:52] <guest123> ...But maybe its all part of the scheduler code i.e the loader not sure... i do know the user land loader can be execv(..) , fork , ...etc calls
[22:52] <guest123> But kind of want to know each step at the kernel level
[22:54] <guest123> once you have it as a task_struct then you easilly can switch to the task by loading the registers values  and doing a jump to the last place of execution held by eip address in task_struct
[22:54] <cyrano> I installed docky on Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2, I tried out the gmail docklet and now it crashes whenever I try to open docky. Is there any way I can fix this?
[22:56] <minimec> cyrano: I guess you wil have a folder 'docky' in '/home/<youruser>/.local/share/'. rename or delete that folder.
[22:57] <minimec> cyrano: next time you start docky, it will start with its default settings again.
[22:57] <Viking667> Well, I finally found where my Xorg logs are now (~/.local/share/xorg/). Paste.ubuntu.com/24533471/
[22:59] <minimec> Viking667: Wow... why would these logs be in .local/share ???
[23:00] <Viking667> It seems that if XDG_DATA_HOME isn't defined, it defaults to ${HOME} (or at least the current directory it's being run from)
[23:00] <Viking667> Hey, at least I HAVE logs!
[23:01] <minimec> Viking667: ;)
[23:03] <Viking667> Bashing-om: so, there's a far more recent Xorg for ya to digest (not all that different from the January one, to be frank)
[23:05] <korrigan_du> Hello there, anyone ?
[23:05] <tgm4883> !ask | korrigan_du
[23:07] <x_> ay whats good boiz
[23:07] <x_> yo whats up
[23:07] <bazhang> !ubuntu | x_
[23:07] <Viking667> *blink*
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Looks much more sane . I see no issue . All now look good to you ?
[23:08] <Viking667> That's two disconnects in three minutes...
[23:09] <Viking667> Bashing-om: it's still not doing the 1920x1080, heck, I don't even have 1680x1050 for resolution...
[23:10] <Viking667> The largest resolution I have listed is 1440x900
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Humm .. log file says it is available "  291.490] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  148.50  1920 2008 2052 2200  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz eP) " .
[23:11] <Viking667> yep. That's my point.
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> Viking667, ...have you tried to change resolution with "xrandr" ?
[23:12] <Viking667> Additionally, my mousebutton setting program doesn't "stick" yet a manually run xmodmap runs fine.
[23:12] <Viking667> YankDownUnder: When I manually add resolutions I can switch to them fine.
[23:13] <Viking667> If the mode's not listed, it won't change to it, end of.
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> Viking667, Manually adding the resolutions will end up being a bit monotonous...
[23:13] <Viking667> I agree. However, one way around that is to add them to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-custom-video.conf
[23:14] <Viking667> I did that to wedge in a 1360x768 resolution
[23:16] <tgm4883> Viking667: seems like the easiest solution would be to add your desired resolutions manually no?
[23:16] <sidetracking> how do i fix ubuntu?
[23:17] <Viking667> However, I get the impression that Xorg's supposed to be adding those resolutions, not simply omitting them even when they're obviously detected.
[23:17] <tgm4883> sidetracking: how is ubuntu broken?
[23:17] <Viking667> sidetracking: that's a remarkably undefined question.
[23:17] <sidetracking> my bad
[23:18] <sidetracking> where is the ubuntu support channel
[23:18] <tgm4883> sidetracking: you're in it...
[23:18] <sidetracking> ok
[23:18] <sidetracking> how do i fix ubuntu
[23:18] <Viking667> So. (1) what's wrong, (2) what're you expecting instead?
[23:18] <tgm4883> !details | sidetracking
[23:18] <ikonia> sidetracking: ask a real question
[23:21] <sidetracking> sorry
[23:21] <sidetracking> my son installed ubuntu for me
[23:21] <Viking667> Okay. What's not working?
[23:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Please know this is not facebook messenger, enter is not punctuation and we like everything in one message
[23:22] <Viking667> or more to the point, what're you expecting, and what is it doing instead? You can type up to 510 characters on a line here.
[23:23] <Sparrow__> !logs
[23:28] <Viking667> sidetracking: are you there, sir/madam?
[23:30] <Sparrow__> Tell him to put his kid on and we will walk him through any fixes :)
[23:31] <Viking667> he/she can probably read fine.
[23:36] <mchamplain> I have an old motherboard/cpu/etc. but don’t have a hard drive. I have a live usb Ubuntu 16.04 flash drive that I can boot (with persistent storage), but I would like to have the “try ubuntu” option load automatically without having to hit enter.  is that possible?
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> mchamplain, Have you considered looking at editing grub2 so that it automagically defaults to that option...?
[23:40] <minimec> mchamplain: If you have a 2nd USB drive you could even install a 'real' ubuntu installation on that 2nd drive and use it as harddrive. Only thing I would do then is to mount the /tmp directory in RAM and maybe avoid a swap partition.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Viking667: There is the boot parameter " edid=off " defeating the scan ? , what results when the boot parameter is removed ?
[23:50] <testerbeta> hi
[23:50] <testerbeta> what software should i use
[23:50] <testerbeta> for export to   idml    or other "indesign" formats
[23:50] <testerbeta> at  ubuntu=
[23:51] <ikonia> testerbeta: in reference to what ?
[23:52] <testerbeta> what software could i use for export to this format? ikonia
[23:52] <testerbeta> such as inkscape for read eps
[23:52] <ikonia> export from what though ?
[23:52] <ikonia> you have to have something to export from
[23:53] <testerbeta> from a sla source (scribus)
[23:53] <ikonia> oh, no idea, I'd look at what formats inkscape supports first
[23:53] <ikonia> then try to find one of those formats that is open, thats your best bet
[23:53] <YankDownUnder> "Scribus" should be more than able to export to .eps or even .pdf => or .svg ...
[23:55] <testerbeta> yankdownunder  and with this scheme (sla > eps,   what should i do
[23:55] <testerbeta> for get the idml (i need make a small indexfile
[23:55] <testerbeta> at idml
[23:57] <YankDownUnder> testerbeta, I'm not quite sure what you're asking - but Scribus is able to export to .EPS, .SVG, other image formats...
[23:59] <testerbeta> yankdownunder    i need make an indexfile (import some ai files,  that i can read at inkscape )
[23:59] <testerbeta> make an index (page 1 its the index), with local links (to pages of the file)
[23:59] <testerbeta> and after  export it to   idml
[23:59] <YankDownUnder> testerbeta, This question  might be more apt for #scribus => ask the experts :)