| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:00 |
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| shrewdu | morning | 04:48 |
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| lotuspsychje | morning shrewdu | 04:57 |
| Bashing-om | Good nite \o | 05:03 |
| EriC^^ | morning lotuspsychje | 05:08 |
| lotuspsychje | working day guys | 05:15 |
| lotuspsychje | have a nice one EriC^^ ducasse | 05:15 |
| lotuspsychje | ; ) | 05:16 |
| ducasse | morning | 06:13 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse | 07:16 |
| ducasse | \o EriC^^ - what's up? | 07:26 |
| ducasse | everything well? | 07:26 |
| EriC^^ | not much, you? | 07:26 |
| ducasse | watching a documentary on snowden, the 'escape to russia' thing. | 07:27 |
| EriC^^ | all good thanks | 07:27 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 07:27 |
| ducasse | that documentary says some scary things about the kind of world we live in :-/ | 07:35 |
| EriC^^ | yeah governments and such | 07:35 |
| ducasse | mostly, having to rely on russia for protecting somebody's freedom :) | 07:37 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: have you tested the artful isos yet? | 07:39 |
| ducasse | (to get back nearer topic) | 07:40 |
| EriC^^ | nope what are those? | 07:45 |
| EriC^^ | ah the new release? | 07:45 |
| EriC^^ | !17.10 | 07:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 | 07:45 |
| ducasse | yep. | 07:45 |
| ducasse | i like the codename, best in a while :) | 07:46 |
| Ben64 | ooh | 07:47 |
| Ben64 | 18.04 breezy badger | 07:47 |
| ducasse | :) | 07:49 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon | 10:51 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:04 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | hey nacc | 16:21 |
| nacc | morning | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/chuwi-lapbook-12-3-laptop-price-specs | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu showing up everywhere on devices | 16:38 |
| \9 | why must the laptops be so thin nowadays | 16:43 |
| \9 | o | 16:43 |
| BluesKaj | cool factor promo...think it's silly | 16:44 |
| \9 | i'd prefer a bit sturdier design that doesn't require me to violently disassemble it to get the hard drive out | 16:44 |
| lotuspsychje | for those business men that need leightweight :p | 16:46 |
| \9 | wimps | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | but businessmen prob dont need ubuntu on it | 16:47 |
| BluesKaj | they wouldn't know what ubuntu is anyway....they're so mainstream focused | 16:48 |
| BluesKaj | they're just computers ...computers use Windows :-) | 16:49 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:50 |
| \9 | or they use macs instead of computers | 16:51 |
| BluesKaj | follow the logic "-) | 16:51 |
| BluesKaj | most business ppl use Windows afaik , macs are for the "creative crowd" | 16:52 |
| lotuspsychje | is that still valid BluesKaj | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | who think paying thru the nose for all that proprietary stuff is cool because it's a mac | 16:53 |
| lotuspsychje | have a mac for graphics design and moviecuttin? | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | drank the kool-ade | 16:54 |
| lotuspsychje | whole world owns an iphone though | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | not here | 16:55 |
| lotuspsychje | me neither | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | they're still phones to me .. all that software on a dinky screen | 16:57 |
| lotuspsychje | handy for a fast google | 17:00 |
| lotuspsychje | but danger for storing your whole life on it... | 17:00 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/05/linux_alternatives_to_ubuntu/ | 17:06 |
| lotuspsychje | have a nice1 guys laterz | 17:35 |
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| nacc | Bashing-om: warning, they are a troll | 18:17 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: Thanks for that heads up ! | 18:18 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: np | 18:20 |
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| nicomachus | uhhhhhh.... http://www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-starts-ipo-path/ | 20:25 |
| Bashing-om | This ^^ I gotta know ! | 20:33 |
| Bashing-om | so much for ubuntu always being "Free" - investors will want a return . | 20:39 |
| ducasse | ugh :( | 20:52 |
| akik | they're no longer trying to create their own ui, and then choose gnome shell as default? | 21:03 |
| akik | i hope they give the DE choice during the install | 21:08 |
| ducasse | why? they don't now - just use another installer. | 21:09 |
| akik | it would make it easier for users | 21:09 |
| ducasse | users having to make more selections make it easier? | 21:11 |
| Bashing-om | I had no seen gnome in a while , was pleasantly surprised with gnome3 in 17.04 . Smooth . | 21:11 |
| akik | yes | 21:11 |
| tgm4883 | lol | 21:11 |
| tgm4883 | no, giving users more options is not easier | 21:12 |
| akik | it's just one more screen, select the ui you like the best | 21:12 |
| tgm4883 | which by definition, it 1 more choice than they have now in teh installer | 21:12 |
| ducasse | akik: new users have no idea what that means or what the differences in those uis are | 21:13 |
| tgm4883 | I'd argue that adding a one page option in the installer is doing a disservice to all the DEs | 21:14 |
| akik | "We're no longer trying to create our own interface. We'll support the existing ones -- KDE, MATE, Lxde -- but while all these desktops are great, GNOME presents the least change for users." | 21:14 |
| tgm4883 | I mean really, we're going to pick DEs based on a single screenshot now? | 21:15 |
| akik | tgm4883: most of the users already know what they are | 21:15 |
| ducasse | if you like kde more than gnome, then just use the kubuntu image - done. should that also have a page to select the ui? | 21:15 |
| tgm4883 | akik: then they can download the correct installer rather than have a ubiquity chooser | 21:16 |
| akik | ok just my 0.02 | 21:16 |
| tgm4883 | It seems silly to me to have the default ISO be 3GB because we want a DE chooser in the installer | 21:17 |
| ducasse | making the installer more complicated in the process. the easy installer is a large part of why newbies use ubuntu. | 21:19 |
| * Bashing-om recalls the shock and dismay that a lubuntu .iso would not decompress to a CD . | 21:19 | |
| ducasse | Bashing-om: the alternate should fit on a cd afaik | 21:21 |
| Bashing-om | Uh Huh .. and the minimal is still doable . | 21:22 |
| ducasse | for now, yes. dunno what will happen there with the new server installer etc... | 21:25 |
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