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| sil2100 | o/ | 14:59 |
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| bdmurray | o/ | 15:00 |
| rbasak | o/ | 15:01 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
| micahg | I'm kinda here and I have another meeting in 25 min | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | Do we know who's chairing today? I guess we stopped selecting chairs recently | 15:06 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting DMB | 15:11 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon May 8 15:11:31 2017 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:11 |
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| rbasak | Might as well be me rather than me waiting around. | 15:11 |
| rbasak | #topic Review of previous action items | 15:11 |
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| rbasak | rbasak to sort Aron's request (carried-over) | 15:11 |
| rbasak | I was looking at this earlier, and would like a second opinion. But I'll move on for now. | 15:12 |
| rbasak | #topic Applications | 15:12 |
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| rbasak | #info There are no applications on today's agenda. | 15:12 |
| rbasak | #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign | 15:12 |
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| rbasak | One from Gunnar about GNOME Help packages. Is someone availalble to take that please? | 15:13 |
| rbasak | I see no other outstanding requests. | 15:14 |
| rbasak | Any volunteers? | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: that's just adding packages? | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | If so give it to me. | 15:15 |
| rbasak | I think so. | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | Well either way, I'll do it. | 15:15 |
| rbasak | It might the description of personal-gunnarhj changing too. | 15:15 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 15:15 |
| rbasak | #action bdmurray to handle GunnarHj's GNOME Help packages PPU request | 15:15 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bdmurray to handle GunnarHj's GNOME Help packages PPU request | 15:15 |
| jbicha | happyaron also requested his packageset be updated | 15:15 |
| rbasak | Yeah, see above - I'll discuss that next. | 15:16 |
| rbasak | #topic Any other business | 15:16 |
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| rbasak | I'm not sure on what basis to handle happyaron's request. Do I just verify that he's listed in the Debian Uploaders field? | 15:17 |
| rbasak | As network-manager seems like quite a step up from some packages in universe from an Ubuntu perspective. | 15:17 |
| rbasak | The others seem straightforward to me, with dkms perhaps in the middle. | 15:18 |
| rbasak | For reference: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2017-April/001100.html | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | Do we know what his original application was like? | 15:18 |
| rbasak | I think it might be before my time. I'll see if I can find it. | 15:19 |
| rbasak | I can only find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AronXu/DeveloperApplication, which was presumably unsuccessful. Or was that converted to PPU maybe? | 15:21 |
| jbicha | hi, I hope I'm not interrupting but happyaron has been one of the main maintainers of NM in Ubuntu: | 15:22 |
| jbicha | https://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/log/ | 15:22 |
| jbicha | https://git.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/+git/ubuntu-applet/log/ | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | I think because network-manager is seeded it requires some further discussion. | 15:22 |
| rbasak | https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/09/%23ubuntu-meeting.html is relevant. | 15:24 |
| rbasak | That's Aron's core dev application (unsuccessful) and it looks like the ubuntukylin packageset was created instead. | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#PerPackage | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | That makes reference to "need to show ... previous work on the package" and "previous concern for the package ... in Ubuntu" - so I think an application needs to be more than just add these. | 15:26 |
| rbasak | I suppose that applies to all of them? | 15:27 |
| rbasak | Shall I reply and ask him to address that bullet point for the packages he's requesting? | 15:27 |
| Laney | The DD process applies to happyaron. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | Well maybe not for DDs, but I'm concerned about this in particular because of bug 1676547. | 15:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "No network connectivity after upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676547 | 15:28 |
| rbasak | OK, so what should I do next? | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | I think the guidelines for DDs are clear and we should just add it, but I personally have reservations. So then the question is do we, the DMB, get to exercise judgement in this (DD) case. | 15:33 |
| rbasak | The DMB set the DD guidelines, so the DMB absolutely can exercise judgement so we so choose. | 15:34 |
| jbicha | bdmurray: is 1676547 happyaron's fault? I'm not sure how relevant that bug is here? | 15:34 |
| rbasak | And if we do choose, then perhaps that's an indication that the DD guideline needs amending. | 15:35 |
| jbicha | (and I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn here) | 15:35 |
| bdmurray | jbicha: cyphermox could explain better but as I understand it the SRU of network-manager to xenial add new capabilities which were not accounted for in Yakkeyt. | 15:35 |
| jbicha | ah ok | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | So if you had the X SRU installed and upgraded to yakkety you'd have no network. If you didn't have the n-m SRU you'd be fine. | 15:36 |
| rbasak | Perhaps the DD guidelines need amending to make it clear that the same original criteria must still apply to the packages being requested? | 15:36 |
| jbicha | I think I helped sponsor those SRUs :( | 15:36 |
| Laney | The page I linked says you can seek assurances if you think the new packages have more 'impact'. | 15:37 |
| bdmurray | Well not many people upgrade from X to Y this late, but still even if it didn't impact many people its not a great experience. | 15:38 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: So I think network-manager is worth some further discussion. | 15:39 |
| rbasak | OK | 15:40 |
| rbasak | What about the others? | 15:40 |
| rbasak | dkms? | 15:40 |
| rbasak | ocserv and proxychains are I think probably uncontroversial? | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: thinking about dkms | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | that's also seeded so maybe it should be discussed too? | 15:42 |
| rbasak | #agreed Aron Xu's DD-based PPU request for network-manager needs further discussion | 15:42 |
| rbasak | OK | 15:42 |
| sil2100 | I see only one direct ubuntu upload of dkms made by him | 15:43 |
| rbasak | #agreed Aron Xu's DD-based PPU request for dkms is similarly seeded so should probably be part of the same discussion | 15:43 |
| rbasak | ocserv and proxychains are I think probably uncontroversial? | 15:43 |
| bdmurray | agreed | 15:44 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:44 |
| rbasak | #agreed +1 for Aron Xu's DD-based PPU requests for ocserv and proxychains | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: although proxychains was already in his list... | 15:45 |
| rbasak | Thanks all. I'll reply to the list. | 15:45 |
| rbasak | Hmm. OK! | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: also you said ocserv and he said ocsev | 15:45 |
| rbasak | I think he typoed it. What he said didn't seem to exist, and so I looked up his Debian maintainerships. | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | Hmm, okay. | 15:46 |
| rbasak | I guess that's it for Aron for this meeting today then? | 15:47 |
| rbasak | Any other AOB? | 15:47 |
| bdmurray | not from me | 15:47 |
| rbasak | That'll be it then. Thanks all! | 15:49 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon May 8 15:49:02 2017 UTC. | 15:49 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-08-15.11.moin.txt | 15:49 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:49 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:34 |
| tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:35 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon May 8 16:35:11 2017 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:35 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:35 |
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| tyhicks | Jeremy Bicha (jbicha) provided debdiffs for trusty-zesty for weechat (LP: #1686478) | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1686478 in weechat (Ubuntu) " CVE-2017-8073 weechat remote crash" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686478 | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| tyhicks | jdstrand: you're up | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | Got through a lot of the snappy PRs and store reviews the last two weeks. As of this second, caught up, but dbus activation and update-ns PRs are looming. All my PRs are merged | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | picked up the uid/gid seccomp filtering branch since it sounds like people are assigned to worked on privilege dropping in snaps and this is a requirement for that work | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | embargoed issue | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | wayland/gnome/plasma and kubernetes-support after | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | that's it from me | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | I have a whole bunch of updates I'm currently testing to release this week, including tomcat7, tomcat8, apache2, freetype, etc. | 16:37 |
| mdeslaur | that's probably all I'll be doing | 16:37 |
| mdeslaur | that it, sbeattie, you're up | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | I'm on bug triage this week | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | I've got openjdk-8 updates pending, and will hopefully have openjdk-7 soon. | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | I'm also working on a libplist update | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | I have some kernel signoff and triage to do. | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | After that, I'll look for more updates to pick up | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | That'll consume my week. | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: over to you | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | I'm on cve triage | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | I've got a number of followups to do from the roadmap sprint last week | 16:39 |
| tyhicks | I need to drive the design of the final bit of the seccomp kernel patches to completion | 16:40 |
| tyhicks | I may also get a chance to start working with the fscrypto userspace code this week | 16:40 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | I am working on apparmor upstreaming this week | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | I have a few bugs to follow-up on | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | but other than that, it is all upstreaming work | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: what specifically are you working on for upstreaming this week? | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | a couple weeks ago it was dealing with apparmofs changes and checkpatch cleanups | 16:43 |
| * tyhicks is mainly curious if you've hit any blockers around those two | 16:43 | |
| jjohansen | I have a revised, smaller securityfs patch that I should be able to send up today. The securityfs portion is done, I am just doing some revision on the supporting apparmor bit | 16:43 |
| jjohansen | it reduces the securityfs changes to just what is needed to support adding symlinks | 16:43 |
| jjohansen | much smaller than the old change | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | nice | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 16:44 |
| jjohansen | there are still some check patch changes to do | 16:45 |
| jjohansen | and I have a list of other random fixes that I know of to preform | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | ok | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | I had one more thing for myself. I need to retire precise from UCT and open precise/esm in UCT. | 16:47 |
| mdeslaur | \o/ | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | sarnold: I think jjohansen is done now | 16:47 |
| sarnold | i'm in the happy place this week | 16:48 |
| jjohansen | well, sure I was just digging up the list | 16:48 |
| sarnold | returning to MIRs | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: we can sync up on those details later | 16:48 |
| sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | I've got chromium, firefox and thunderbird to release this week | 16:48 |
| sarnold | wow | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | I also need to finish my new script for automating symbol uploads, so I can stop doing it manually | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | I'm not sure what else yet. That's me done | 16:49 |
| tyhicks | ratliff: you're up | 16:50 |
| ratliff | I'm in the happy place. I have a number of tasks from the sprint. | 16:50 |
| ratliff | I'm going to work on an icu update for esm. | 16:51 |
| ratliff | I'm going to instantiate the notification service. | 16:51 |
| ratliff | If I have time, I will do an update for UC15. | 16:51 |
| ratliff | that's it for me, back to you, tyhicks | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pyrad.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/plasma-workspace.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pcs.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:52 |
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| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/claws-mail.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/golang-github-appc-docker2aci.html | 16:52 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: not to discuss particularly, but related to what ratliff said, there's ESM infrastructure tasks that will need to be done. | 16:53 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: I think I've got most of the tasks to perform locally documented but you're right that we'll need to do some infrastructure things | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: I'll try to knock those out today/tomorrow | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | ratliff: fyi ^ | 16:54 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: sure, I'm happy to help there, too. | 16:54 |
| ratliff | thanks, tyhicks and sbeattie | 16:55 |
| tyhicks | ok | 16:55 |
| mdeslaur | ratliff: does anything actually use icu in the esm packageset? | 16:55 |
| tyhicks | shh | 16:56 |
| tyhicks | there's a reason why it is the first :) | 16:56 |
| * mdeslaur shuts up | 16:56 | |
| tyhicks | it'll be a good test | 16:56 |
| tyhicks | it is in the list but there's not much there that depends on it | 16:57 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! | 16:57 |
| mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks | 16:57 |
| tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon May 8 16:57:31 2017 UTC. | 16:57 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-08-16.35.moin.txt | 16:57 |
| jjohansen | thanks tyhicks | 16:57 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: thanks | 16:57 |
| ratliff | thank you tyhicks! | 16:57 |
| sarnold | thanks tyhicks! | 16:58 |
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