| === Dave___ is now known as Dae | ||
| === Dae is now known as Dave | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:56 |
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| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:04 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:06 |
| directhex | xenial is totally broken and i can't find anyone else talking about it :| | 08:53 |
| foobarry | define broken | 08:53 |
| foobarry | !lts | 08:54 |
| lubotu3 | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 08:54 |
| directhex | foobarry: libsecret slash gnome-keyring doesn't work at all, as of about a week ago. so apps which integrate with it take ages to start up, and all saved credentials are inaccessible | 08:54 |
| davmor2 | directhex: is there a bug for it | 08:55 |
| directhex | davmor2: not that i can find! | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | then no one will be working on it ;) | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | directhex: can you give me examples and I'll have a play for you see if I can reproduce it | 08:55 |
| directhex | can someone else sanity-check? install libsecret-tools and try running `secret-tool search pony pony` | 08:55 |
| diplo | I've got to say I haven't had any issues but have now updated to zesty | 08:56 |
| diplo | Can try on Zesty to also see if it's an issue ? | 08:56 |
| ali1234 | directhex: produces no output for me on 16.04 | 08:56 |
| directhex | ali1234: immediately? | 08:56 |
| ali1234 | yes | 08:56 |
| ali1234 | but my computer is really fast so that might not mean much :) | 08:57 |
| directhex | ok, that's the correct behaviour | 08:57 |
| directhex | but it's broken for me on my laptop *and* desktop, including after a reformat | 08:57 |
| davmor2 | directhex: so could be something local to you, do you have any ppa's installed at all? | 08:57 |
| ali1234 | my install is really old | 08:57 |
| ali1234 | also i haven't reboot it for like a month so might not be using fully up to date libs | 08:57 |
| directhex | ehm... flatpak ppa, mono/chrome/slack repos | 08:58 |
| ali1234 | i have the chrome ppa but not the others | 08:58 |
| ali1234 | can you strace it or something to see why it hangs? | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | directhex: did you install any flat packs as I understand it that can pull in the full gnome stack and might be causing issues unless they fixed that | 08:59 |
| directhex | davmor2: i've tried uninstalling flatpak, which hasn't changed anything | 09:01 |
| directhex | ali1234: it's a timeout on dbus activation of org.freedesktop.secrets | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | directhex: no it won't the install it pulls in is separate to the package :) | 09:02 |
| directhex | davmor2: it's a clean reinstalled laptop, i hadn't gotten around to installing any flatpak apps. | 09:02 |
| davmor2 | directhex: then that might be fine then let me fire it up and have a look for you | 09:03 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Iris Day! 😃 🌷 | 09:11 |
| * JamesTait wonders if anyone will notice the continuation of the weekend's railway theme. | 09:12 | |
| directhex | don't talk to me about bloody railways, it took me 6 hours to get to london & back to vote | 09:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | used the railway on saturday and sunday from dublin... it was jammers both days which is odd for a weekend... | 09:24 |
| diplo | directhex: Going to sign up to postal vote next time then ? | 09:26 |
| directhex | mmm, i might be in the US next time, and it's rather more convenient to vote in boston than london | 09:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | how long would the postal vote to get to uk? | 09:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | just you hear stories about american postal system been slow... | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | Don't worry, directhex, HS2 will be here soon and will solve all your troubles. 😉 | 09:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | hs2 will expand the commuter belt how far? :-) | 09:30 |
| MooDoo | howdy all | 09:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | shhh, you'll alert monday to your presence!! | 09:31 |
| MooDoo | already bit me in the ass | 09:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | doesn't mean it won't come back to try and finish the job... | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | think i'll be fine :) | 09:38 |
| directhex | HS2 doesn't run from banbury to wembley | 09:39 |
| * zmoylan-pi starts betting pool... hit by asteroid/eaten by sharks/attacked by badgers... :-P | 09:39 | |
| MooDoo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI | 09:54 |
| davmor2 | directhex: paste.ubuntu.com/24536065 | 10:15 |
| davmor2 | no issues here | 10:15 |
| directhex | so....... wtf? | 10:15 |
| directhex | how many gnome-keyring-daemon instances do you have running? | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | directhex: 1 | 10:17 |
| directhex | hm | 10:17 |
| directhex | i just killed 2 zombie instances, and now secret-tool runs | 10:17 |
| directhex | but *why*? | 10:18 |
| davmor2 | maybe it was linked to a zombie one initially | 10:18 |
| TwistedLucidity | JamesTait: A bit of controversy about HS2 around here, the viaduct is going to be HEE-OOJ. | 10:34 |
| TwistedLucidity | Not sure if genuine concern or just a bunch of entitle NIMBYs | 10:35 |
| TwistedLucidity | *entitled | 10:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure they all have degrees in architecture... | 10:36 |
| foobarry | how do i disable intel AMT via the ctrl-p menu? | 11:14 |
| TwistedLucidity | A hammer | 11:28 |
| TwistedLucidity | Usually it's hidden the BIOS/UEFI gubbines you get at boot | 11:28 |
| TwistedLucidity | What's a "Ctrl-P" menu? | 11:28 |
| TwistedLucidity | What I wonder is, how will I install the firmware update to my T430 without needing Windows. | 11:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | wrap cpu in tin foil, put in microwave on high for 2 minutes. put smoking mess in barrel of wet concrete. drop over side of boat... | 11:29 |
| foobarry | ctrl-p gets you into the INTEL(R) AMT CONFIGURATION menu | 11:59 |
| foobarry | no clear ooption to disable | 11:59 |
| foobarry | just "Manageability feature selection" enable/disable | 11:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | who knew having a backdoor into something would turn out to be a bad thing?! | 11:59 |
| foobarry | i've been worried about it for years | 12:01 |
| foobarry | i like ipmi on servers | 12:01 |
| foobarry | i don't like MAT onlaptops that even respond on the main IP address when they are asleep | 12:02 |
| foobarry | i think i have now disabled it | 12:27 |
| diddledan | ok folks, foobarry just set the challenge. first person to hack them wins the internet! :-p | 12:32 |
| diddledan | note: I do not condone hacking. you must comply with the laws of your jurisdiction. | 12:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | and this time no one hacks sony! \o/ | 12:52 |
| foobarry | hack who? | 12:53 |
| foobarry | me? | 12:53 |
| foobarry | the reg article shows that the AMT have 1) passsword bypass 2) priv escalation vuln. | 12:53 |
| foobarry | 3) pwntown | 12:53 |
| SuperMatt | that's a horrid combination of bugs | 13:03 |
| diddledan | well the bugs can be paraphrased as 1) give everyone access. 2) make everyone admin. hmm, that sounds like Win9x era computing | 13:25 |
| diddledan | and WinXP | 13:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | foobarry: Yes, bypass the password by sending nothing | 13:48 |
| TwistedLucidity | I can't check now, but I really did think it was BIOS/UEFI setting to turn it on/off. | 13:48 |
| TwistedLucidity | foobarry: When does one do ctrl-p? During boot? | 13:49 |
| === layke is now known as Guest41781 | ||
| foobarry | TwistedLucidity: yes | 14:34 |
| foobarry | hammer it as soon as you start boot | 14:34 |
| TwistedLucidity | foobarry: OK, I'll give that a go. | 14:34 |
| foobarry | the bios setting only hides the ctrl-p option! | 14:34 |
| diddledan | well that's a new one: IRCCloud system message: We're migrating your user account to a different server to balance the system. Your account will be offline briefly before reconnecting automatically. We apologise for the disruption. | 16:55 |
| diddledan | it didn't reconnect automatically | 16:55 |
| diddledan | why are they not using live migration?! | 16:56 |
| diddledan | seriously, each customer should be a separate container on their farm which will allow the system to automatically rebalance itself without interruption or manual intervention | 16:57 |
| * brobostigon is back from work. | 17:36 | |
| foobarry | listening to UUPC . i have a 12.04 machine for special cases because it has a working java + browser setup that works for various IBM/Dell servers | 19:35 |
| diddledan | I somewhat concerned that the top secret us spaceship requires hazmat teams to recover it: https://assets.cdn.spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/08225604/170507-O-F3227-001-678x438.jpg | 23:06 |
| diddledan | from here: https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/05/08/photos-sundays-return-of-x-37b-after-718-days-in-space/ | 23:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | probably uses toxic fuel... | 23:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | i seem to remember one of the best fuels is carcinogenic | 23:12 |
| diddledan | I think it's more likely that it wasn't in orbit of earth the past 700 days but actually went to visit some aliens elsewhere in the solarsystem | 23:20 |
| diddledan | they've obviously placed some really powerful weapons or something that is hazardous | 23:21 |
| diddledan | it looks like they have a geiger counter | 23:21 |
| diddledan | probably isn't a standard counter for normal radiation but detecting exotic matter | 23:22 |
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