=== Dave___ is now known as Dae === Dae is now known as Dave [07:56] morning boys and girls. [08:04] Morning all [08:06] Morning all [08:53] xenial is totally broken and i can't find anyone else talking about it :| [08:53] define broken [08:54] !lts [08:54] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [08:54] foobarry: libsecret slash gnome-keyring doesn't work at all, as of about a week ago. so apps which integrate with it take ages to start up, and all saved credentials are inaccessible [08:55] directhex: is there a bug for it [08:55] davmor2: not that i can find! [08:55] then no one will be working on it ;) [08:55] directhex: can you give me examples and I'll have a play for you see if I can reproduce it [08:55] can someone else sanity-check? install libsecret-tools and try running `secret-tool search pony pony` [08:56] I've got to say I haven't had any issues but have now updated to zesty [08:56] Can try on Zesty to also see if it's an issue ? [08:56] directhex: produces no output for me on 16.04 [08:56] ali1234: immediately? [08:56] yes [08:57] but my computer is really fast so that might not mean much :) [08:57] ok, that's the correct behaviour [08:57] but it's broken for me on my laptop *and* desktop, including after a reformat [08:57] directhex: so could be something local to you, do you have any ppa's installed at all? [08:57] my install is really old [08:57] also i haven't reboot it for like a month so might not be using fully up to date libs [08:58] ehm... flatpak ppa, mono/chrome/slack repos [08:58] i have the chrome ppa but not the others [08:59] can you strace it or something to see why it hangs? [08:59] directhex: did you install any flat packs as I understand it that can pull in the full gnome stack and might be causing issues unless they fixed that [09:01] davmor2: i've tried uninstalling flatpak, which hasn't changed anything [09:01] ali1234: it's a timeout on dbus activation of org.freedesktop.secrets [09:02] directhex: no it won't the install it pulls in is separate to the package :) [09:02] davmor2: it's a clean reinstalled laptop, i hadn't gotten around to installing any flatpak apps. [09:03] directhex: then that might be fine then let me fire it up and have a look for you [09:11] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Iris Day! 😃 🌷 [09:12] * JamesTait wonders if anyone will notice the continuation of the weekend's railway theme. [09:22] don't talk to me about bloody railways, it took me 6 hours to get to london & back to vote [09:24] used the railway on saturday and sunday from dublin... it was jammers both days which is odd for a weekend... [09:26] directhex: Going to sign up to postal vote next time then ? [09:27] mmm, i might be in the US next time, and it's rather more convenient to vote in boston than london [09:28] how long would the postal vote to get to uk? [09:29] just you hear stories about american postal system been slow... [09:29] Don't worry, directhex, HS2 will be here soon and will solve all your troubles. 😉 [09:30] hs2 will expand the commuter belt how far? :-) [09:31] howdy all [09:31] shhh, you'll alert monday to your presence!! [09:32] already bit me in the ass [09:32] doesn't mean it won't come back to try and finish the job... [09:38] think i'll be fine :) [09:39] HS2 doesn't run from banbury to wembley [09:39] * zmoylan-pi starts betting pool... hit by asteroid/eaten by sharks/attacked by badgers... :-P [09:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI [10:15] directhex: paste.ubuntu.com/24536065 [10:15] no issues here [10:15] so....... wtf? [10:16] how many gnome-keyring-daemon instances do you have running? [10:17] directhex: 1 [10:17] hm [10:17] i just killed 2 zombie instances, and now secret-tool runs [10:18] but *why*? [10:18] maybe it was linked to a zombie one initially [10:34] JamesTait: A bit of controversy about HS2 around here, the viaduct is going to be HEE-OOJ. [10:35] Not sure if genuine concern or just a bunch of entitle NIMBYs [10:35] *entitled [10:36] i'm sure they all have degrees in architecture... [11:14] how do i disable intel AMT via the ctrl-p menu? [11:28] A hammer [11:28] Usually it's hidden the BIOS/UEFI gubbines you get at boot [11:28] What's a "Ctrl-P" menu? [11:29] What I wonder is, how will I install the firmware update to my T430 without needing Windows. [11:29] wrap cpu in tin foil, put in microwave on high for 2 minutes. put smoking mess in barrel of wet concrete. drop over side of boat... [11:59] ctrl-p gets you into the INTEL(R) AMT CONFIGURATION menu [11:59] no clear ooption to disable [11:59] just "Manageability feature selection" enable/disable [11:59] who knew having a backdoor into something would turn out to be a bad thing?! [12:01] i've been worried about it for years [12:01] i like ipmi on servers [12:02] i don't like MAT onlaptops that even respond on the main IP address when they are asleep [12:27] i think i have now disabled it [12:32] ok folks, foobarry just set the challenge. first person to hack them wins the internet! :-p [12:33] note: I do not condone hacking. you must comply with the laws of your jurisdiction. [12:52] and this time no one hacks sony! \o/ [12:53] hack who? [12:53] me? [12:53] the reg article shows that the AMT have 1) passsword bypass 2) priv escalation vuln. [12:53] 3) pwntown [13:03] that's a horrid combination of bugs [13:25] well the bugs can be paraphrased as 1) give everyone access. 2) make everyone admin. hmm, that sounds like Win9x era computing [13:25] and WinXP [13:48] foobarry: Yes, bypass the password by sending nothing [13:48] I can't check now, but I really did think it was BIOS/UEFI setting to turn it on/off. [13:49] foobarry: When does one do ctrl-p? During boot? === layke is now known as Guest41781 [14:34] TwistedLucidity: yes [14:34] hammer it as soon as you start boot [14:34] foobarry: OK, I'll give that a go. [14:34] the bios setting only hides the ctrl-p option! [16:55] well that's a new one: IRCCloud system message: We're migrating your user account to a different server to balance the system. Your account will be offline briefly before reconnecting automatically. We apologise for the disruption. [16:55] it didn't reconnect automatically [16:56] why are they not using live migration?! [16:57] seriously, each customer should be a separate container on their farm which will allow the system to automatically rebalance itself without interruption or manual intervention [17:36] * brobostigon is back from work. [19:35] listening to UUPC . i have a 12.04 machine for special cases because it has a working java + browser setup that works for various IBM/Dell servers [23:06] I somewhat concerned that the top secret us spaceship requires hazmat teams to recover it: https://assets.cdn.spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/08225604/170507-O-F3227-001-678x438.jpg [23:06] from here: https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/05/08/photos-sundays-return-of-x-37b-after-718-days-in-space/ [23:12] probably uses toxic fuel... [23:12] i seem to remember one of the best fuels is carcinogenic [23:20] I think it's more likely that it wasn't in orbit of earth the past 700 days but actually went to visit some aliens elsewhere in the solarsystem [23:21] they've obviously placed some really powerful weapons or something that is hazardous [23:21] it looks like they have a geiger counter [23:22] probably isn't a standard counter for normal radiation but detecting exotic matter