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| mrpl | do people tend to use ubuntu-studio live on a flash drive with a 4Gb persistent file ? | 14:47 |
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| OvenWerks | mrpl: I have not had the create_a_bootable_USBdrive thing work for me for a few releases now. I don't think it is even shipped anymore. | 14:51 |
| mrpl | Ok, well I creted it in the linux mint 17.1 xfce that I use on my desktop... | 14:52 |
| mrpl | Its just I have an 8gb ubuntustudio partition and a 22 gb ext4 second partition for storage....I guess that could work storing files in the ext4 partition given the 4Gb max in the first partition... | 14:55 |
| mrpl | I used to delete the 4gb casoer-rw and use that as the label for the 2nd partition and the OS would automatically store /home files there.... | 14:56 |
| mrpl | but I have been having trouble getting the casper-rw label on the second partition to....induce the live system to store its stuff there... | 14:58 |
| mrpl | But...hey I've got my live flash drive all setup like I like...desktop-wise and it is persistent...so....all is well | 15:00 |
| mrpl | and I have 20 plus gb storage built in as well as all kinds of room on the laptop hdd.... | 15:00 |
| OvenWerks | You have done better than I have then :) | 15:02 |
| mrpl | Now I just have to figure out hoe to set up my old Tascam Porta Studio as my "audio interface" !! | 15:02 |
| mrpl | I enjoy making live usb sticks to show my Mac friends | 15:03 |
| OvenWerks | It can't be that old... the porta-studio I remember used a cassete | 15:03 |
| mrpl | yep..thats the one | 15:03 |
| mrpl | 244 I think | 15:04 |
| mrpl | Havent touched it in 1o years so...it has some dust | 15:04 |
| mrpl | Tascam 244 ..... | 15:05 |
| OvenWerks | The one I remeber was built in the 1980s (early 80s) before USB. | 15:06 |
| mrpl | That is the one I have....the one springstein did Nebraska on...I believe | 15:06 |
| OvenWerks | I had a Yamaha version... but less partable. | 15:06 |
| mrpl | My friend had one way back then...and I bought mine used in '93 for $100 | 15:07 |
| OvenWerks | 6 channel mixer into 4 tracks on tape. | 15:07 |
| mrpl | yes....boncing tracks... | 15:08 |
| mrpl | bounce... | 15:08 |
| mrpl | I had fun on that :) | 15:08 |
| OvenWerks | I went from there to a Fostex r8 (1/4 inch open reel 8 tracks) | 15:09 |
| mrpl | big reels ? | 15:10 |
| mrpl | like 6 or 8" ? | 15:10 |
| OvenWerks | 7 inch | 15:10 |
| mrpl | Nice.... | 15:11 |
| OvenWerks | big is 15inch :) | 15:11 |
| mrpl | 7" is big when you are set up in your clothes closet...hehe | 15:11 |
| OvenWerks | digital to hard disk is much better. | 15:11 |
| OvenWerks | I think I can record better quality audio on my pi these days | 15:12 |
| mrpl | pi is getting a lot of attention huh? | 15:12 |
| mrpl | lots of development for pi apps and stuff... | 15:13 |
| OvenWerks | It is kind of limiting for some things. | 15:13 |
| OvenWerks | There is a control app I want to run on it... I have to fool it to get it to install | 15:14 |
| OvenWerks | it is an armv7 package but the pi calls itself an armhf | 15:14 |
| OvenWerks | Once installed it works fine. | 15:15 |
| mrpl | Do you use the pi for recording and playback at all? | 15:16 |
| OvenWerks | no | 15:16 |
| OvenWerks | I got it to make a control surface | 15:16 |
| mrpl | media | 15:16 |
| mrpl | control surface...hmmm | 15:17 |
| mrpl | what is a control surface for ? | 15:17 |
| OvenWerks | I do dev work on Ardour in particular the remote control code. | 15:18 |
| mrpl | Very good ! | 15:18 |
| OvenWerks | A control surface gives faders and buttons (physical ones even) to operate the mixer | 15:19 |
| mrpl | So...while playing or while mixing ? | 15:19 |
| OvenWerks | The most common control surface out there would be the Mackie control. | 15:19 |
| mrpl | Mackie.... | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | http://mackie.com/products/mcu-pro-and-xt-pro | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | The mackie is a MIDI controller which Ardour already supports. I have been working OSC control. | 15:21 |
| mrpl | did Mackie used to be standalone or is it also standalone ? | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | Most of the stuff out there for OSC is "glass" like a phone or tablet | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | What do you mean by standalone? | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | They made analog mixers before they made controllers. | 15:23 |
| mrpl | like it works on its own and is not tied to other softeware in order to work... | 15:23 |
| OvenWerks | They now make mixers with a computer interface | 15:23 |
| OvenWerks | I do not know if they make recorders. | 15:23 |
| OvenWerks | It doesn't look like it | 15:24 |
| mrpl | Does ardour need an OS in order to operate ? | 15:25 |
| cfhowlett | mrpl, yes | 15:25 |
| OvenWerks | yes, it runs on Linux (where it is developed), MacOS and windows. | 15:25 |
| mrpl | Could ardour be...the OS ? | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | mrpl: it would be possible to use Ardour to replace the window manager... but it would require some knowledgable set up to make it work. | 15:26 |
| cfhowlett | no. ardour is not an OS and doesn't perform OS functions. | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | right it would need at least some OS underneath | 15:27 |
| mrpl | I have only opened ardour and looked at it....sorry...I have zero knowledge | 15:27 |
| OvenWerks | Harrison does that on their MPC consoles | 15:28 |
| mrpl | Do you guys talk with the AVLinux developer ? | 15:29 |
| mrpl | Glen McArtheu ? | 15:29 |
| OvenWerks | http://harrisonconsoles.com/site/mpc5.html These things use ardour under the hood for recording. | 15:29 |
| OvenWerks | I haven't seen him in here, but have talked with him in #ardour or on the linux audio users mailing list | 15:30 |
| mrpl | Bem me up scotty ! | 15:30 |
| mrpl | Coll.... | 15:30 |
| mrpl | Cool.... | 15:30 |
| mrpl | re the console.... | 15:30 |
| OvenWerks | They have a rack of computers for just one console. | 15:31 |
| mrpl | They havent pi-ified ? | 15:31 |
| OvenWerks | There is one or more computers that just take care of control and then a stack of them for channel DSP. as well as one for recording. | 15:32 |
| OvenWerks | No, the computers are server models. | 15:32 |
| mrpl | I thought "racks-of-computer" was the old days | 15:32 |
| OvenWerks | They do their DSP at 64bit level. | 15:32 |
| OvenWerks | Still do that today. | 15:33 |
| mrpl | If thats what has to be done...I just thought that the modern computer as we know it could handle large multi-tasks... | 15:34 |
| OvenWerks | mrpl: it has to be "real time" | 15:35 |
| OvenWerks | it has to be low latency. | 15:35 |
| mrpl | ok....but rt kernels and low latency are all that is discussed in the linux music world.... | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | not really, but a lot yes... probably more than needed. | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | for recording, low latency is not really needed so long as one can do analog monitoring. | 15:37 |
| mrpl | It hasnt been that long that a rt kernel was asynaptics button away... | 15:37 |
| mrpl | I didnt know that.... | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | There is not a RT kernel in the ubuntu repos right now, just a low latency kernel. | 15:38 |
| mrpl | I think....developers roll their own.... | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | The mainline kernel includes a lot of the RT code anyway, there is just a small bit left that makes for hard RT. | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, some people do, but I have been quite happy with lowlatency. I can get down to less tha 1ms with it... if I stop cron :) | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | anything less than 10ms is fine. | 15:40 |
| mrpl | And only you can tell the difference huh?.... | 15:40 |
| mrpl | Especially with your own work... | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | it has to be close to 20ms before I can really tell | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | When recording the DAW aligns the tracks so that latency doesn't matter | 15:41 |
| OvenWerks | The finished product can be "sample perfect" | 15:41 |
| mrpl | I hope to find out once I get my Tascam interface configured hehe | 15:41 |
| mrpl | I need to figure out Tascam out to computer in....plugs | 15:42 |
| mrpl | err jacks | 15:44 |
| mrpl | rca to 1/8" | 15:45 |
| OvenWerks | Using internal audio then (aux in) | 15:45 |
| OvenWerks | right. | 15:45 |
| mrpl | but stereo ? | 15:45 |
| OvenWerks | The big thing to remember is make sure you turn "boost" or "mic boost" off | 15:46 |
| OvenWerks | Ya that can be stereo | 15:46 |
| OvenWerks | 1/8 tip ring and sleeve | 15:46 |
| mrpl | I have a left and right but only one input | 15:46 |
| OvenWerks | tip is left, ring is right and sleeve is ground | 15:46 |
| mrpl | like a stereo 1/8 " | 15:47 |
| OvenWerks | right. | 15:47 |
| mrpl | with the split shank... | 15:47 |
| mrpl | er wutever you call it | 15:47 |
| OvenWerks | :) TRS | 15:47 |
| OvenWerks | (tip, right and sleeve) | 15:47 |
| OvenWerks | s/right/ring/ | 15:47 |
| mrpl | so the computer input sleeve....is prepared to accept stereo then ? | 15:48 |
| OvenWerks | The computer aux in should be able to accept stereo. | 15:48 |
| mrpl | even on my 8 year old Compaq Presario | 15:48 |
| mrpl | k...great | 15:48 |
| OvenWerks | The computer mic input may well be mono. | 15:48 |
| mrpl | I will be Teacing my mike | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | The computer mic input may be input, 5v and ground | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | Using an external mic preamp is always a good step, computer preamps tend to be noisy | 15:50 |
| mrpl | the mike will be plugged in to Tascam I believe | 15:50 |
| OvenWerks | right | 15:50 |
| mrpl | everything will | 15:50 |
| mrpl | Gotta go get the adapters.... | 15:51 |
| mrpl | 2 rca to 1 stereo 1/8" jack... | 15:52 |
| mrpl | like a Y | 15:52 |
| mrpl | Thanks OvenWerks...gotta run ! | 15:54 |
| OvenWerks | Ok by now. | 15:56 |
| studio-user593 | Hi Everybody | 18:59 |
| studio-user593 | Did someone make ableton work on ubuntu studio ? | 19:00 |
| studio-user593 | no one... , | 19:02 |
| studio-user593 | OK | 19:03 |
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