=== capturixeur_ is now known as trebmuh [14:47] do people tend to use ubuntu-studio live on a flash drive with a 4Gb persistent file ? [14:51] mrpl: I have not had the create_a_bootable_USBdrive thing work for me for a few releases now. I don't think it is even shipped anymore. [14:52] Ok, well I creted it in the linux mint 17.1 xfce that I use on my desktop... [14:55] Its just I have an 8gb ubuntustudio partition and a 22 gb ext4 second partition for storage....I guess that could work storing files in the ext4 partition given the 4Gb max in the first partition... [14:56] I used to delete the 4gb casoer-rw and use that as the label for the 2nd partition and the OS would automatically store /home files there.... [14:58] but I have been having trouble getting the casper-rw label on the second partition to....induce the live system to store its stuff there... [15:00] But...hey I've got my live flash drive all setup like I like...desktop-wise and it is persistent...so....all is well [15:00] and I have 20 plus gb storage built in as well as all kinds of room on the laptop hdd.... [15:02] You have done better than I have then :) [15:02] Now I just have to figure out hoe to set up my old Tascam Porta Studio as my "audio interface" !! [15:03] I enjoy making live usb sticks to show my Mac friends [15:03] It can't be that old... the porta-studio I remember used a cassete [15:03] yep..thats the one [15:04] 244 I think [15:04] Havent touched it in 1o years so...it has some dust [15:05] Tascam 244 ..... [15:06] The one I remeber was built in the 1980s (early 80s) before USB. [15:06] That is the one I have....the one springstein did Nebraska on...I believe [15:06] I had a Yamaha version... but less partable. [15:07] My friend had one way back then...and I bought mine used in '93 for $100 [15:07] 6 channel mixer into 4 tracks on tape. [15:08] yes....boncing tracks... [15:08] bounce... [15:08] I had fun on that :) [15:09] I went from there to a Fostex r8 (1/4 inch open reel 8 tracks) [15:10] big reels ? [15:10] like 6 or 8" ? [15:10] 7 inch [15:11] Nice.... [15:11] big is 15inch :) [15:11] 7" is big when you are set up in your clothes closet...hehe [15:11] digital to hard disk is much better. [15:12] I think I can record better quality audio on my pi these days [15:12] pi is getting a lot of attention huh? [15:13] lots of development for pi apps and stuff... [15:13] It is kind of limiting for some things. [15:14] There is a control app I want to run on it... I have to fool it to get it to install [15:14] it is an armv7 package but the pi calls itself an armhf [15:15] Once installed it works fine. [15:16] Do you use the pi for recording and playback at all? [15:16] no [15:16] I got it to make a control surface [15:16] media [15:17] control surface...hmmm [15:17] what is a control surface for ? [15:18] I do dev work on Ardour in particular the remote control code. [15:18] Very good ! [15:19] A control surface gives faders and buttons (physical ones even) to operate the mixer [15:19] So...while playing or while mixing ? [15:19] The most common control surface out there would be the Mackie control. [15:20] Mackie.... [15:20] http://mackie.com/products/mcu-pro-and-xt-pro [15:21] The mackie is a MIDI controller which Ardour already supports. I have been working OSC control. [15:22] did Mackie used to be standalone or is it also standalone ? [15:22] Most of the stuff out there for OSC is "glass" like a phone or tablet [15:22] What do you mean by standalone? [15:23] They made analog mixers before they made controllers. [15:23] like it works on its own and is not tied to other softeware in order to work... [15:23] They now make mixers with a computer interface [15:23] I do not know if they make recorders. [15:24] It doesn't look like it [15:25] Does ardour need an OS in order to operate ? [15:25] mrpl, yes [15:25] yes, it runs on Linux (where it is developed), MacOS and windows. [15:26] Could ardour be...the OS ? [15:26] mrpl: it would be possible to use Ardour to replace the window manager... but it would require some knowledgable set up to make it work. [15:26] no. ardour is not an OS and doesn't perform OS functions. [15:27] right it would need at least some OS underneath [15:27] I have only opened ardour and looked at it....sorry...I have zero knowledge [15:28] Harrison does that on their MPC consoles [15:29] Do you guys talk with the AVLinux developer ? [15:29] Glen McArtheu ? [15:29] http://harrisonconsoles.com/site/mpc5.html These things use ardour under the hood for recording. [15:30] I haven't seen him in here, but have talked with him in #ardour or on the linux audio users mailing list [15:30] Bem me up scotty ! [15:30] Coll.... [15:30] Cool.... [15:30] re the console.... [15:31] They have a rack of computers for just one console. [15:31] They havent pi-ified ? [15:32] There is one or more computers that just take care of control and then a stack of them for channel DSP. as well as one for recording. [15:32] No, the computers are server models. [15:32] I thought "racks-of-computer" was the old days [15:32] They do their DSP at 64bit level. [15:33] Still do that today. [15:34] If thats what has to be done...I just thought that the modern computer as we know it could handle large multi-tasks... [15:35] mrpl: it has to be "real time" [15:35] it has to be low latency. [15:36] ok....but rt kernels and low latency are all that is discussed in the linux music world.... [15:36] not really, but a lot yes... probably more than needed. [15:37] for recording, low latency is not really needed so long as one can do analog monitoring. [15:37] It hasnt been that long that a rt kernel was asynaptics button away... [15:38] I didnt know that.... [15:38] There is not a RT kernel in the ubuntu repos right now, just a low latency kernel. [15:38] I think....developers roll their own.... [15:39] The mainline kernel includes a lot of the RT code anyway, there is just a small bit left that makes for hard RT. [15:40] Ya, some people do, but I have been quite happy with lowlatency. I can get down to less tha 1ms with it... if I stop cron :) [15:40] anything less than 10ms is fine. [15:40] And only you can tell the difference huh?.... [15:40] Especially with your own work... [15:40] it has to be close to 20ms before I can really tell [15:41] When recording the DAW aligns the tracks so that latency doesn't matter [15:41] The finished product can be "sample perfect" [15:41] I hope to find out once I get my Tascam interface configured hehe [15:42] I need to figure out Tascam out to computer in....plugs [15:44] err jacks [15:45] rca to 1/8" [15:45] Using internal audio then (aux in) [15:45] right. [15:45] but stereo ? [15:46] The big thing to remember is make sure you turn "boost" or "mic boost" off [15:46] Ya that can be stereo [15:46] 1/8 tip ring and sleeve [15:46] I have a left and right but only one input [15:46] tip is left, ring is right and sleeve is ground [15:47] like a stereo 1/8 " [15:47] right. [15:47] with the split shank... [15:47] er wutever you call it [15:47] :) TRS [15:47] (tip, right and sleeve) [15:47] s/right/ring/ [15:48] so the computer input sleeve....is prepared to accept stereo then ? [15:48] The computer aux in should be able to accept stereo. [15:48] even on my 8 year old Compaq Presario [15:48] k...great [15:48] The computer mic input may well be mono. [15:49] I will be Teacing my mike [15:49] The computer mic input may be input, 5v and ground [15:50] Using an external mic preamp is always a good step, computer preamps tend to be noisy [15:50] the mike will be plugged in to Tascam I believe [15:50] right [15:50] everything will [15:51] Gotta go get the adapters.... [15:52] 2 rca to 1 stereo 1/8" jack... [15:52] like a Y [15:54] Thanks OvenWerks...gotta run ! [15:56] Ok by now. [18:59] Hi Everybody [19:00] Did someone make ableton work on ubuntu studio ? [19:02] no one... , [19:03] OK