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| cpaelzer | o/ | 16:00 |
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| ahasenack | o/ | 16:00 |
| dpb1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| smoser | o/ | 16:01 |
| rbasak | o/ | 16:01 |
| nacc | o/ | 16:02 |
| cpaelzer | ok I pinged a few more and know of afew others that they won't be avilable, lets start | 16:03 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team | 16:03 |
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| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:03 |
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| cpaelzer | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:03 |
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| cpaelzer | There were plenty of actions, but also I know some of them resovled - so lets go one by one | 16:03 |
| cpaelzer | ACTION: rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has (carried over) | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Still pending :-( | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | wrong | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | I added a description of the way we tag mysql bugs as triage if they are suitable for a central dup bug or to steal replies from. | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/mysql | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/+bugs?&field.tag=triage | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Oh. Thanks! | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | That covers the most common cases and we can easily add more. | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | I updated the wiki for that, the remaining action would be for rbasak to update who maintains the package. | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: you are doing that with Lars and more? - it would be nice if you could update this section. | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | The site became a bit "light" now that we actually do it via launchpad tags, but it seemed to make more sense. | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: are you ok to take that remainign update as action with you? | 16:04 |
| dpb1 | cpaelzer++ | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | only your part rbasak :-) | 16:04 |
| rbasak | My todo entry for that is below the fold now :-/ | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | honestly I just wasn't sure I'd get the oracle role in this right, so I'd ask you to take that | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Sure | 16:04 |
| cpaelzer | everything else will be in the tags unless we want another solution | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | and the wiki plinks | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | #action: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page | 16:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: : rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page | 16:05 |
| rbasak | ack | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:05 |
| cpaelzer | ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:05 |
| nacc | cpaelzer: both continue | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | I see useful new content | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | ok, continuing | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | #action nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | #action nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | the next pair is for rharper on cloud-init | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | ACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:06 |
| cpaelzer | ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:06 |
| * rharper hangs head | 16:06 | |
| cpaelzer | continue? | 16:06 |
| rharper | well, we did publish the docs | 16:06 |
| rharper | but I've not referred to them in the guides | 16:07 |
| * rharper fetches link | 16:07 | |
| cpaelzer | nore the release notes? | 16:07 |
| rharper | http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/network-config.html | 16:07 |
| smoser | \o/ | 16:07 |
| rharper | cpaelzer: correct, we should link to that in guide and notes | 16:07 |
| rharper | s/we/rharper | 16:07 |
| rharper | so, yes, carry | 16:07 |
| cpaelzer | yeah, I'll continue your action then and info on this | 16:07 |
| dpb1 | that looks like technical content | 16:07 |
| rharper | ack | 16:07 |
| rharper | dpb1: yeah, did that before we were told to | 16:08 |
| dpb1 | rharper++ | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | #info mysql triaging now assisted by most common bugs being tagged, see links for details | 16:08 |
| rharper | sweet, I was hoping for a gold star | 16:08 |
| dpb1 | gold stars for all! | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | #info ipv6 info available for cloud-init | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | #link http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/network-config.html | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | #action: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: : rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | #action rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init | 16:08 |
| cpaelzer | the last action was ACTION: teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x) | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | I synced with him as he can not attend | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | pasting from that now | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | <teward> cpaelzer: well i won't be able to be at the meeting tomorrow [...] make a note on the action item for me re: nginx release notes to push it to the next meeting for a status checkin | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | <teward> i've got the bulletpoints on a notepad document, i've not gotten much further | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | teward: thanks for keeping us updated, notes in the meeting and keeping the action for now | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | #action teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x) | 16:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x) | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | that gets us to current dev | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Artful Development | 16:09 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule | 16:09 |
| cpaelzer | #subtopic blueprints | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-aa-server-core | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | I saw nacc and myself check a few of the merges already | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | more to come the next weeks for sure | 16:10 |
| nacc | lvm2 just went through as well | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | thanks nacc | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | your pace on this makes me proud and wishing there wouldn't be that much libvirt/qemu things up in the air atm | 16:10 |
| cpaelzer | nacc for merge president | 16:11 |
| dpb1 | nacc++ | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | #info merges going well so far and which is good given how early in the cycle we still are | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | #subtopic Release Bugs | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | I've mostly seen 17.04 issues recently which is natural after the release and people using it now | 16:11 |
| nacc | i think my m.u.c list is pretty short now, so i can pick up others next week | 16:11 |
| nacc | yep | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | anyone seen 17.10 things that are worth to share? | 16:12 |
| ahasenack | would this be the place to bring up that samba bug I've worked on? | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | SRU comes later | 16:12 |
| ahasenack | it's for artful first | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | and if you miss it there there is open discussion as a catch all | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | then pelase shoot | 16:12 |
| cpaelzer | this isn't so strict on where | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | I have this mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+merge/323767 | 16:13 |
| cpaelzer | as long as people provide good input | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | and I outline 3 options at the bottom | 16:13 |
| nacc | ahasenack: yeah i need to take a look at it | 16:13 |
| nacc | ahasenack: as i did the last bit of samba | 16:13 |
| nacc | but if you want to own samba! please do ) | 16:13 |
| nacc | :) | 16:13 |
| cpaelzer | oO | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | let me just paste the 3 options here quickly (3 lines) | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | a) upload to artful, exercise there, and do the same for the zesty SRU | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | b) upload to artful, but for the zesty SRU, remove the fix-1584485.patch until we are happy artful's samba is fine. | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | c) remove patch from artful and zesty until patch author can chime in | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | current status is that pam_winbind is broken on zesty+ | 16:14 |
| nacc | ahasenack: this is the static linking thing, right? | 16:14 |
| ahasenack | yes | 16:14 |
| cpaelzer | ahasenack: could you ontline in one sentence what the original patch was for? | 16:14 |
| cpaelzer | so everybody knows without reading through all of the bug | 16:14 |
| ahasenack | static linking some samba libs into pam_winbind and nss_winbind so that on package upgrades we didn't get into a situation where the running processes would dlopen new/old libraries and crash | 16:15 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+merge/323767 | 16:15 |
| nacc | ahasenack: i would prefer a), i think, it matches what i'd expect we'd do (fix dev release and then SRU fix back) | 16:15 |
| ahasenack | nacc: ok, that's what the MP is doing | 16:15 |
| nacc | ahasenack: ack, i will try and get feedback to you today | 16:15 |
| cpaelzer | #info discussion on how to preceed on an issue with sambas libraries (regression-update) | 16:15 |
| ahasenack | thanks, my concern is leaving zesty with a broken pam_winbind for too long | 16:16 |
| ahasenack | since this was a regression | 16:16 |
| ahasenack | s/since/specially/ | 16:16 |
| cpaelzer | ahasenack: once you encounter a stall on the process with a) you can emergency fix it in zesty | 16:17 |
| ahasenack | I wouldn't call it a stall just yet, but thanks :) | 16:17 |
| cpaelzer | ok thanks ahasenack for working on this, anything else before I leave current development release? | 16:18 |
| ahasenack | not from me | 16:18 |
| nacc | php transition is done, we're at 7.1 now | 16:18 |
| nacc | php7.0 has been removed | 16:18 |
| nacc | tomcat8 transition may have to wait for a bit, as upstreams are not yet compatbile | 16:18 |
| cpaelzer | upstreams not compatible means you can't start pushing in the new one while the old one is around? | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer | is upstream working on this - so we know this will resolve? | 16:19 |
| cpaelzer | #info php7.1 transition complete in artful release | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer | nacc: ^^ ? | 16:20 |
| cpaelzer | do we expect this to resolve upstream and pull then? | 16:21 |
| nacc | cpaelzer: yeah there is a bug open and just waiting on upstream to change their code | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | ok, great | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd) | 16:21 |
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| nacc | cpaelzer: if we migrate tomcat8 to 8.5, dogtag-pki and tomcatjss will immediately break again | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | I know slashd is on a sprint, so we give him a 60 sec timeout to appear ... | 16:21 |
| cpaelzer | #info tomcat8->8.5 transition stalled by upstream issue (versions are not compatible) | 16:22 |
| cpaelzer | <timeout> | 16:22 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) | 16:22 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ | 16:22 |
| cpaelzer | powersj is out atm | 16:22 |
| cpaelzer | from his info mail an info | 16:23 |
| cpaelzer | #info All Artful server ISO tests are now running | 16:23 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) | 16:23 |
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| cpaelzer | I pinged smb when the meeting started and he was around today, but didn't join yet | 16:24 |
| cpaelzer | there might be a kernel breaking somewhere else | 16:24 |
| ahasenack | :) | 16:24 |
| cpaelzer | and it is too early to start our #1 question being "what will the next kernel version be" | 16:24 |
| cpaelzer | anyone else soemthing for the kernel section of the log? | 16:24 |
| cpaelzer | going on ... | 16:25 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Upcoming Call For Papers | 16:25 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ | 16:25 |
| cpaelzer | Linux Plumbers Conference Deadline is closing in | 16:25 |
| cpaelzer | nothing else on my personal radar that touches us | 16:26 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:26 |
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| cpaelzer | there will be a mini-sprint the rest of the week to make some of our libvirt delta upstreamable to debian/libvirt-upstrem | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | to ease maintenance later on and let everyone benefit | 16:27 |
| nacc | nice | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | any sem-public events out there that people might care? | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | semi | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | ok, that is a no | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| cpaelzer | I have something here | 16:27 |
| cpaelzer | this is a wall of text, sorry, but there was already so much progress | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | #info Discussion on updating the serverguide as a "bug fix" | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2017-May/020429.html | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | There is a mail thread about the discussion I kicked off, but the TL;DR is nicely in a quote of Doug Smythies | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | "Procedure: For the 16.04 Ubuntu Serverguide, just tell me when you want an update publication done and I'll do it, after say about a 2 week string freeze and translation catch up window**. For the 14.04 Serverguide, it would have to be an important update, as typically, and only speaking for myself, I don't bother with the older LTS versions." | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | I also saw andreas already started with a doc MP | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/serverguide/use-sasl-external-for-config-changes-973981/+merge/323786 | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | And a few minutes ago I saw the MP was merged | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | so perfect case to encourage everyone | 16:28 |
| cpaelzer | we felt that those won't be updated, but the feeling was wrong | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | So for the issue we had other than fixing in the package if we can, for the guide update add a bug task and provide a branch. | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | Starter info for the guide is here: | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/BuildingDocumentation | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | #info feel more free before to do serverguide changes when applicable as a "bug fix". | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | Any further thing to add? | 16:29 |
| cpaelzer | giving a few extra sec as this was a lot of text ... | 16:30 |
| ahasenack | :) | 16:30 |
| cpaelzer | Also on the thread, we were asked to also provide some doc contribution to kernel uninstall handling | 16:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1031091 | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1031091 in Ubuntu Server Guide trunk "Serverguide Automatic Updates contains inconsistencies and / or errors" [High,Triaged] | 16:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1647790 | 16:30 |
| cpaelzer | Would anyone be willing to action himself to take a look at these as well? | 16:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1647790 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Choosing "No automatic updates" has no effect" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:31 |
| dpb1 | I'd like to look | 16:31 |
| cpaelzer | great | 16:31 |
| cpaelzer | #action: dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team | 16:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: : dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer | anything else before I close? | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer | nacc: you'll be the next chair - is next week ok for you? | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair | 16:32 |
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| nacc | cpaelzer: yep | 16:32 |
| cpaelzer | #info next week meeting at the same day/time, charing will be nacc | 16:33 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 16:33 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 9 16:33:45 2017 UTC. | 16:33 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-09-16.03.moin.txt | 16:33 |
| ahasenack | thanks cpaelzer | 16:33 |
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