[02:08] <m0nkey_> This Goose is cooked https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RmBJD0qH/goose_is_cooked.gif
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:42] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Lost Sock Memorial Day! 😃
[08:44] <zmoylan-pi> step 1) throw out all socks 2) replace with 20 pairs all the same 3) there is no step 3
[08:44] <JamesTait> Step 3) wonder why you only have 19 pairs of socks and one odd one.
[08:45] <zmoylan-pi> then you hit the intruder alert button...
[08:46] <JamesTait> Does that summon the sock police?
[08:48] <zmoylan-pi> no that would be the summon sock police button... 1 up, 2 along beside the summon tomato ketchup button
[08:49] <JamesTait> "Summon tomato ketchup button", a.k.a. "Child".
[08:49] <JamesTait> Ketchup on everything.
[08:51] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJxBr3LHCc
[09:16] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:16] <czajkowski> how is everyone ?
[09:21] <davmor2> meh
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> warm dry sunny weather... it's unnatural... make it stop...
[09:34] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: come to Wolverhampton cold grey and heartless
[09:34] <zmoylan-pi> i mean it hasn't rained in days... they'll be declaring a drought soon...
[12:37] <diddledan> Winsider Preview has just bit my bum :-p
[12:37] <diddledan> nvidia drivers installed via Windows Update killed display
[12:38] <diddledan> and now I'm trying to figure-out why hyper-v has died
[12:38] <diddledan> maybe I should ignore hyper-v death and revert to using virtualbox
[12:43] <davmor2> diddledan: or just stick to Linux ;)
[12:43] <diddledan> :-p
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> nah os/2 is the future!! :-)
[12:47]  * zmoylan-pi adds tick to the note of how many times i have recommended oses to people and sees os/2 ahead of windows... :-P
[13:29] <m0nkey_> OS/2 Warp 4 was awesome.
[13:30] <zmoylan-pi> been able to format a floppy and not have system grind to a halt...
[13:31] <m0nkey_> But if you want to strike OS gold, look up TempleOS.
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> the one recommended to me today was endless os
[13:32] <m0nkey_> The sole dev has a mental disorder and swears a lot in his videos. God speaks to him through the OS development.
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi> the swearing i can handle. the god speaking to them is a smidge more worrying for the creater of an os you're trusting your data with
[13:37] <diddledan> apparently the Holy resolution is 640x480
[13:38] <diddledan> God insisted on it
[13:38] <zmoylan-pi> with 2 or 4 colour support?
[13:39] <m0nkey_> 16 colours
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> but that would reduce the amount of video ram available for your ram disk!!
[13:40] <m0nkey_> Oh and there is no mouse support.
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> \o/
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> and there was much rejoicing
[13:40] <m0nkey_> Devil makes works for idle hands and such.
[13:45] <diddledan> 2 day turnaround by MS on fixing an RCE bug: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39856391
[13:49] <m0nkey_> Props to MS for that!
[13:50] <diddledan> aye, and those engineers who worked through the weekend deserve a cold beer and a rest!
[13:50] <diddledan> amazing response IMO
[13:55] <arsen> pretty standard for any small to medium sized business - but if its M$ they get praise? :p
[13:58] <m0nkey_> Are you 14? Who referrers to Microsoft as M$ anymore?
[13:59] <arsen> did they get better? :D
[13:59] <m0nkey_> I praise any software dev that turns round a fix for a critical vulnerability in just a few hours.
[14:02] <diddledan> ditto: they've gone through not knowing the bug exists -> trying to understand how the exploit works -> finding the right code path -> figuring out what's wrong with that code -> applying a potential fix -> compiling -> potentially getting a broken build -> potentially not having fixed the problem -> testing that the fix doesn't cause problems to other stuff
[14:02] <diddledan> -> packaging for release ..
[14:02] <diddledan> ALL IN 48 hours
[14:03] <arsen> sorry, how much money does microsoft have, and how big is their dev team (spanning multiple timezones), and what do they do for a living?
[14:04] <arsen> i'd argue the better way to describe what they've done is 'surprise' - rather than pat them on the back. most other decent tech firms would expect that kind of turnaround as a minium, nevermind one that sells end-user software.
[14:04] <arsen> largely because they're typcally shit at that kind of thing :p
[14:04] <m0nkey_> Surprisingly, yes. I feel like they have gotten better. They're not perfect. I trust Microsoft more than I do Google.
[14:05] <diddledan> bashing Microsoft is childish.
[14:06] <diddledan> sure, call them out when they do something wrong, but don't moan that they get praise for doing something right
[14:07] <arsen> don't think i complained, just said what they've done should be the norm.
[14:07] <arsen> it is for the rest of us.
[14:07] <m0nkey_> Take your average Linux distribution. A critical bug is fixed, but it still takes a day or two for that to come downstream.
[14:07] <m0nkey_> Unless you compile yourself from sources.
[14:08] <m0nkey_> Same is true for BSD.
[14:09] <m0nkey_> Heck, it could be two month for the FreeNAS devs to push out a security update. (Known from experience reporting an OpenSSL vulnerability)
[14:10] <m0nkey_> Open source should be able to move faster, but it doesn't.
[14:10] <arsen> different set of challenges eh.
[14:11] <m0nkey_> So as I said. I praise anyone who can turn around in 48 hours.
[16:44] <DJones> \o/ Found the charger/transfer cable for my mp3 player
[16:45] <DJones> Audiobook heaven here I come :)
[17:23] <diddledan> http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stephen-fry-blasphemy-probe-dropped-after-garda-fail-to-find-substantial-number-of-outraged-people-35692915.html
[17:26] <DJones> diddledan: As a somebody who goes to church every week, as a christian, as part of the church PCC, that charge was ridiculous, freedom of speech does come into it (but can be limited in certain circumstances), but I can't understand how anybody would be offended by what he's said
[17:27] <DJones> Maybe I'm in the minority, but I respect anybody's choice of point of view, I might not agree with it, but I won't complain if its different to mine
[17:35] <diddledan> DJones: Je Suis Charlie :-)
[17:39] <diddledan> if non-<insert religion here> people aren't allowed to call out plot holes in <insert religion here> teachings then how does <insert religion here> ever get a chance to adapt to modernity?! As a christian I welcome people challenging me
[17:40] <diddledan> I like the plot twists the best ;-p
[17:40] <DJones> diddledan: Yep, thats my view as well
[17:40] <DJones> Its called free will, I respect that
[17:41] <diddledan> I'm perfectly happy to be proven wrong. Scientific process requires that I be open to the idea that there is no deity. Likewise I'm open to the idea of science proving that there is a deity afterall
[17:42] <diddledan> the way I see it is: if I believe in some deity and follow that religion, and I'm wrong, what do I lose?
[17:44] <diddledan> the lack of losing anything by being wrong is outweighed by the fraternity and belonging of believing in deity
[17:44] <DJones> ...well, if you're wrong,....you have to move to America were Disney's Mickey & Donald are president & VP :)
[17:44] <diddledan> lol
[17:44] <diddledan> poor murrica :-(
[17:44] <DJones> ..Ooops, Mickey & Donald are VP & President
[18:01] <popey> Good morning
[18:06] <diddledan> ello popester
[18:06] <diddledan> you been away?
[18:09] <ali1234> DJones: the theory goes that it was done to raise awareness of the silly law
[18:10] <diddledan> aye, it is a bit strange of the complainant "doing their civil duty" in reporting it but that they weren't offended themselves
[18:10] <diddledan> if you weren't offended, then why report it?!
[18:10] <ali1234> civil disobedience meets malicious compliance
[19:55] <daftykins> \o hi folks
[20:22] <dogmatic69> here's a message I have not  seen since the 90's http://i.imgur.com/k0QEped.png
[20:22] <dogmatic69> after installing visual paradigm for UML
[20:26] <daftykins> dogmatic69, phew, you wouldn't want to rack up the phone bill!
[20:26] <dogmatic69> :D
[20:26] <dogmatic69> It's wierd, the site looks like it was only released last week using the latest in material design and HTML5!
[20:27] <dogmatic69> with a message like that you would expect a bit of <blink>, <marquee> and some geo-cities gifs
[20:29] <daftykins> a client called me out the other day because the government housing website wasn't doing what they wanted, so i popped over as soon as i could "oh, well it didn't load earlier"
[20:29] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[20:38] <dogmatic69> lmao, luckily I am somewhat sheltered from customers these days
[20:38] <daftykins> :>
[20:53] <diddledan> www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEC-lWSlmI
[21:18] <daftykins> shared connection is so bad here i had to sign up to a mobile broadband service temporarily ;)
[21:18] <daftykins> 100GB isn't much to get by on!
[21:28] <diddledan> :-o
[21:29] <daftykins> i used up 8GB watching a single baseball game XD
[21:37]  * dogmatic69 flashes the 300mbps virgin line
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> isn't baseball one of those sports that pre internet you could watch all the action on teletext? :-P
[21:52] <diddledan> and the guy swung his stick. missed. now walking to the next position
[21:53] <diddledan> and the next guy swung his stick. missed. walking to the next position. previous guy walking to the next position beyond that
[22:02] <diddledan> FBI director has been fired by trumpet
[22:04] <zmoylan-pi> well he put the knife in hillarys campaign... you can't trust someone like that...
[22:05] <diddledan> https://www.apnews.com/094da2d5fb1e45bda42e55c1577f815c/Trump-fires-FBI-director-James-Comey
[22:06] <diddledan> "first they came for the judiciary"
[22:15] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/joshshepperd/status/862064718286114817