[10:28] <CoderEurope> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=malJUMz2A9Y Farewell to Meizu 10, then.
[10:51] <anpok> CoderEurope: there is an afterlife.. join ubports.
[10:55] <CoderEurope> anpok, For the flagship - products ? Maybe the FFone2, but they're floundering over at Ubports.com errata, they do the Next 5 aswell.
[14:25] <CoderEurope> mhall119, Any word on a date when the security updates for the Aquaris 4.5/E5 are going to expire/finish from Canonical ? ubports.com doesn't know in the forums & I've asked askubuntu & they do know .
[14:26] <CoderEurope> ****askubuntu Do*not* know.
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> CoderEurope: june will end official updates
[14:48] <CoderEurope> lotuspsychje, yeah, what date in june ?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> CoderEurope: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/ubuntu-phone-no-further-updates-truly-dead
[14:55] <CoderEurope> lotuspsychje, so no security updates *after June* ?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> seems like it CoderEurope
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> CoderEurope: unless there's a new deal/method with the ubports guys? who knows...
[14:56] <CoderEurope> no
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> no what
[14:57] <CoderEurope> Uports aren't working on the Aquaris 4.5 or Aquaris E5.
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> CoderEurope: i also got a 4.5..not sure what i will do next
[14:58] <CoderEurope> lotuspsychje, I shall buy it off you ?
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> if nothing supported..ill have to go back to bloody android
[15:54] <aquarius_> jhodapp: I have an audio-on-the-phone question, if you have a minute at some point :) Specifically, an app I launch from a click app (which is unconfined) doesn't seem to be able to make sounds; the same app works fine when run from phablet-shell. Sounds apparmorish, maybe, but ... how do I find out? :)
[15:59] <mhall119> aquarius_: I have some bad news for you about ubuntu phones...
[16:00] <aquarius_> yes, yes, I know that bit. But it hasn't stopped working just because it's not supported. :)
[16:00] <mhall119> what does the app use to send audio?
[16:00] <mhall119> pulse, or somethign different?
[16:00] <aquarius_> ah, that's a good point; it's using alsa but can use pulse. Let me try that
[16:01]  * mhall119 bets apparmor only allows pulse
[16:02] <aquarius_> hrm, hasn't helped :(
[16:33] <mcphail> aquarius_: silly question, but have you asked for audio permission? If so, anything in the logs?
[16:35] <aquarius_> my app is unconfined. I may still need permissions, but I don't see any apparmor denials in my app's log. I don't have a /var/log/syslog (which is another problem that I don't understand)
[16:36] <aquarius_> I may try having upstart start my sub-app, though, and see if that gets blocked.
[16:37] <CoderEurope> mhall119, Do you have any up & coming events coming up for us to attend on-line ? http://i.imgur.com/DNHCFza
[16:37] <mcphail> aah didn't see the unconfined bit. You sure pulse hasn't crashed? that got me once
[16:38] <aquarius_> yeah. app works fine when I run it manually :)
[16:38] <mcphail> :)
[16:40] <CoderEurope> mhall119,  yep so ?
[17:15] <mhall119> CoderEurope: not sure I understand the question
[17:15] <mhall119> do you mean like OUS-style events?
[17:32] <CoderEurope> mhall119, anything
[17:42] <mhall119> that was really the only on-line event we've had
[17:42] <mhall119> unless you count the various things on Ubuntu On Air
[17:42] <CoderEurope> this is why there's retention prob.s