| Chip_ | Hello .I have a question abou xfce power manager in xubuntu .I installed xubuntu in dell e4200 .I can control screen brightness with hotkey , but brightness setting in xfce power manager is not works , screen dim not works too.What should i do ? | 09:40 |
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| blip- | Hi, after few hours of usage (and maybe related to screensaver or suspending my laptop) - Thunar takes like 10seconds to open and sometimes windows freeze forever. I can't even find the process to kill it | 10:58 |
| blip- | any thoughts ? | 10:58 |
| bonsaitree | Is there a fix for the network-manager problem in 17.04? | 12:29 |
| martron | Hi, I installed Xubuntu 17.04 a couple days ago on my XPS 13 9360. Since then every once in a while xorg uses 100% CPU for a while. Primarily this occurs right after boot or resuming from suspend. I've read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HighCPU but none of those situations seem to match mine. | 14:11 |
| martron | Does anyone have suggestions on how I can figure out what Xorg is trying to do? | 14:12 |
| martron | Here's my Xorg.0.log: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/826812e3808aa22f531cbfe19521f8b3 | 14:24 |
| sorinello | Hey guys, is there any xfce app that is the UI for gnome-keyring ? | 18:13 |
| encomjones | not a specific xfce app no, but there is always seahorse | 18:16 |
| sorinello | thanks | 18:18 |
| encomjones | np | 18:18 |
| dpohlman | Trying to get window decorations to show up after enabling compiz, stuff I am seeing after googling is old and does not seem to work. Anyone know how to do this on 17.04? | 18:34 |
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| sugardrunk | diogenes_: get your gpu drivers correct, check for the fresh desktop-candy... you got the drivers good? | 18:46 |
| sugardrunk | diogenes_: sorry wrong dude | 18:46 |
| sugardrunk | he left... | 18:46 |
| diogenes_ | sugardrunk, lol, I'm glad you didn't confuse me with your gf | 18:48 |
| dpohlman | Anyone using compiz? | 18:48 |
| diogenes_ | i do | 18:48 |
| dpohlman | When I enable it, the windows decorations go away | 18:50 |
| diogenes_ | install emeral | 18:51 |
| diogenes_ | emerald | 18:51 |
| sugardrunk | diogenes_: lol me too | 18:51 |
| dpohlman | emerald doesn't seem to be in the default repos | 18:54 |
| diogenes_ | dpohlman, what distro? | 18:55 |
| dpohlman | xubuntu 17.04 | 18:55 |
| diogenes_ | dpohlman, try on github look for emerald wm and also look for ppa | 18:56 |
| diogenes_ | xfce+compiz+emerald=the most awesome desktop experience ever | 18:56 |
| dpohlman | added webupd8 ppa and it says it has emerald but when i try to install it says package is not found. | 19:03 |
| dpohlman | maybe need to drop to xenial? | 19:03 |
| diogenes_ | what ppa you added? | 19:04 |
| dpohlman | https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8 | 19:04 |
| diogenes_ | dpohlman, try this: https://github.com/compiz-reloaded/emerald | 19:06 |
| diogenes_ | if you don't know what to do then ask | 19:06 |
| dpohlman | Had to go back to vivid and then it would install | 19:07 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 19:07 |
| sugardrunk | what's the reason emerald was abandoned? it has been gone for some time I think | 19:08 |
| sugardrunk | but seems to be updated well enough | 19:08 |
| diogenes_ | sugardrunk, no clue, no one needed it but it's really cool | 19:08 |
| sugardrunk | yea, some people like the candy :) | 19:08 |
| sugardrunk | I don't :) | 19:08 |
| diogenes_ | it's no about the candy | 19:08 |
| sugardrunk | usability? | 19:09 |
| diogenes_ | it's a bneccesity when you use compiz | 19:09 |
| sugardrunk | oh ok, only tried compiz long time ago with p4 amd athlon :) | 19:09 |
| sugardrunk | i just install debian or xubuntu (and get rid of lots of stuff) | 19:09 |
| sugardrunk | if I want a working lightweight system | 19:10 |
| sugardrunk | just love the plain xfce :) | 19:10 |
| diogenes_ | if xfwm4 would have had a good screen magnifier then I wouldn't need compiz but ... | 19:10 |
| sugardrunk | (of course it has some flaws...) | 19:10 |
| sugardrunk | diogenes_: I get you... it is usability and such | 19:10 |
| diogenes_ | sugardrunk, yes | 19:11 |
| sugardrunk | nee customization... everyone has their needs | 19:11 |
| sugardrunk | *ned | 19:11 |
| sugardrunk | .. | 19:11 |
| sugardrunk | :D | 19:11 |
| diogenes_ | haha looks like the second part pf ypur nickname comes into play XD | 19:11 |
| sugardrunk | :) | 19:11 |
| diogenes_ | your* | 19:11 |
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| holla | xubuntu 14.0.4.5 - firefox crashes immediatley. does someone know anything about this problem? | 21:24 |
| mrkramps | holla, rename your profile directory and try starting the browser | 21:25 |
| mrkramps | best in terminal and check possible error messages | 21:26 |
| holla | mrkramps: hi, we tried rhat already. here's a crash report, if you're interested: bp-6920931e-a2a9-41a0-b141-18d741170510 | 21:30 |
| holla | ^rhat^all that | 21:31 |
| mrkramps | holla, what's your firefox version? | 21:31 |
| mrkramps | apt-cache policy firefox | 21:31 |
| holla | lates stable 53 | 21:31 |
| holla | latest | 21:31 |
| holla | it seems a common problem lately: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/signature/?platform=Linux&product=Firefox&signature=EnterBaseline&date=%3E%3D2016-06-01T00%3A00%3A00.000Z&date=%3C2017-05-11T20%3A09%3A00.000Z#graph | 21:33 |
| mrkramps | holla, firefox addons in use? | 21:33 |
| holla | see crash report - no addons atm | 21:33 |
| mrkramps | strange, i just know of a fixed issue after upgrading 51 to 52 | 21:34 |
| mrkramps | holla, have you tried reinstalling? | 21:34 |
| holla | yeap | 21:34 |
| mrkramps | sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox | 21:35 |
| holla | new profile, safe-mode also | 21:35 |
| holla | strange thing is - chromium also fails | 21:35 |
| mrkramps | hm, must be some shared lib then | 21:37 |
| holla | think so - but the reason is unknown atm? | 21:37 |
| holla | is there an esr version? | 21:38 |
| encomjones | if you run it from a terminal do you get any error messages | 21:39 |
| holla | encomjones: lol - loads of .. have you ever tried it yourself? but most of them are irrelevant | 21:43 |
| encomjones | mine does not crash so I don't have to, but I have done that with other applications and sometimes it produces errors messages that help | 21:44 |
| encomjones | but in your case I guess not | 21:44 |
| mrkramps | only the last messages befor the crash are interesting | 21:44 |
| mrkramps | holla, do you have an old CPU? | 21:46 |
| holla | but firefox is different - it's constantly complaining about something. but i could ask the user. | 21:46 |
| holla | mrkramps: yes, i think he does | 21:46 |
| mrkramps | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i sse2 | 21:46 |
| mrkramps | latest firefox requires a CPU with SSE3 | 21:47 |
| mrkramps | *SSE2 | 21:47 |
| holla | okay, i'll have tk ask, but i think it's not that old - i mean sse2? that must be older than 15 years or so? | 21:48 |
| mrkramps | pentium 4 and such | 21:48 |
| mrkramps | athlon xp | 21:48 |
| holla | 10-15yrs | 21:48 |
| mrkramps | pentium 4 is not too rare even nowadays | 21:48 |
| holla | that's very old - but i'll check that - thanks | 21:48 |
| holla | how about esr under xubuntu? | 21:49 |
| mrkramps | holla, manual install required, but possible | 21:49 |
| holla | direct dl? | 21:50 |
| mrkramps | and chromium is afaik affected by the same issue | 21:50 |
| mrkramps | palemoon might be an alternative as well | 21:50 |
| holla | pale is in apts? | 21:51 |
| mrkramps | nope | 21:51 |
| mrkramps | but there might be appropiate ppas for firefox esr and pale moon | 21:51 |
| holla | dillo works though, but somehow the user isn't satisfied with it ;) | 21:51 |
| mrkramps | =D | 21:52 |
| holla | but i think you might be right - guess it's due to hw incompatibilty | 21:53 |
| mrkramps | as chromium is affected as well this sounds reasonable | 21:53 |
| holla | mrkramps: thanks. i'll contact the user and report back, if he does ... | 21:54 |
| mrkramps | holla, qupzilla is a webkit bowser which might help as well | 21:54 |
| holla | webkit | 21:54 |
| mrkramps | but webkit from repository is quite old and less secure | 21:54 |
| mrkramps | but otherwise it is a good browser | 21:54 |
| holla | how about opera | 21:54 |
| mrkramps | dunno about opera's system requirements | 21:55 |
| mrkramps | isn't is chromium based? | 21:55 |
| holla | ver 12.x is still without webkit | 21:55 |
| xangua | Opera adds it's own repository when you install it | 21:55 |
| holla | xangua: huh? own repo *after* installing? | 21:56 |
| mrkramps | holla, opera DOES require SSE2 as well | 21:56 |
| holla | mrkramps: new or old one as well? | 21:56 |
| holla | xangua: meta package in main repo? | 21:56 |
| mrkramps | do you think it is a good idea to install an "old" browser nowadays? | 21:56 |
| xangua | No | 21:57 |
| mrkramps | oh, and pale moon does require SSE2 no as well :\ | 21:57 |
| holla | afaik - opera is still maintained in 2 versions - one with and one without webkit | 21:57 |
| mrkramps | ok, give it a try then | 21:58 |
| holla | so the old version (12) only gets sec updated/patches | 21:58 |
| xangua | Who knows 🤔 | 21:58 |
| holla | xangua: what vers of opera are available by default? | 21:59 |
| xangua | If you mean in official repository, I think 12 | 22:00 |
| holla | cool, thanks | 22:01 |
| holla | okay guys - thank you very much :D | 22:01 |
| slee | hi, just noticed there was an API change(and update) for the xfce4 weather plugin, any plans on xubuntu updating anytime soon? | 23:03 |
| mrkramps | 17.04 ships the fixed xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.9 | 23:04 |
| Spass_ | slee: you can get a package from there > http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/xfce4-weather-plugin | 23:15 |
| slee | thanks | 23:16 |
| Spass_ | I don't see any difference in dependencies so it should install with no issues | 23:16 |
| Spass_ | (comparing to version from 16.04) | 23:17 |
| slee | confirmed, that package does install/work on 16.04 | 23:21 |
| slee | thanks again | 23:21 |
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