[05:03] <kubuntu> hi
[05:03] <Jai2000> hello
[05:04] <Jai2000> anyone there?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:18] <quantock48> Have just got a new laptop toshiba satellite c55-c-184.  Have installed kubuntu 64 and it is working well except for a few small teething troubles.  Can someone help with these?
[13:18] <TBotNik> All: Got a few minutes this AM before getting to outside chores here at the farm on such a lovely AM here in Greenville, TX.  Working on my ThunderBird email address ripping script.  Having problems with an array assign.  Write up at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5710031#post5710031. All help appreciated! Join me on the #bash channel for discussion on this .
[13:21] <quantock48> First thing is there is an icon on my panel (bottom of screen next to the kde start meny icon, when I click on it it tells me there is a malformed url, but I can't see a way to get rid of it. Any ideas?
[13:22] <quantock48> kubuntu version is 17.04
[13:23] <quantock48> Have not tried this chat forum before!
[13:29] <snoop> Hello all, i hope none of you got hit with the #ransomware
[13:30] <BluesKaj> snoop,  that's  windows worm, which users should habe patched with windows update 2weeks ago
[13:32] <snoop> yeah i know
[13:32] <snoop> none of the people i know never update their machines
[13:35] <BluesKaj> well, they should , apparently windows defender has to install the patch or the worm can get past it and scan their networks
[14:11] <MrSassyPants> apturl -> ImportError: No module named 'PyQt4.QtWebKit'
[14:11] <MrSassyPants> WHAT DO?
[14:12] <clivejo> MrSassyPants: where are you getting that error?
[14:12] <MrSassyPants> from entering apturl
[14:12] <oerheks> PyQt5.QtWebKit is available, PyQt4.QtWebKit is not >> PyQt4.QtWebKit package got removed in Ubuntu 16.10, probably because both PyQt4 and QtWebKit are long unmaintained.
[14:12] <MrSassyPants> (same with apturl-kde, I assume it's a symlink)
[14:13] <MrSassyPants> yes, this problem was there before I upgraded to 17.04
[14:13] <MrSassyPants> I assumed 17.04 would fix it but it didn't
[14:13] <MrSassyPants> so
[14:13] <roy_> is it possible that dolphin (KDE) crash/conflict with my router?
[14:13] <roy_> hi
[14:15] <roy_> while  browsing smb/windows network
[14:16] <MrSassyPants> roy, I'm assuming you don't have a domain server set up
[14:16] <roy_> i don't indeed
[14:16] <MrSassyPants> because smb works like ass for me as well, but I remember from back in the days that smb always worked like ass if you didn't have a domain server
[14:17] <MrSassyPants> and I mean: even windows-to-windows
[14:17] <MrSassyPants> of course there may be an actual bug there, I'm just saying
[14:19] <roy_> well this never happens using "ubuntu file" but with dolphin i got many timeout errors
[14:19] <MrSassyPants> does it sporadically work though?
[14:20] <roy_> yes rarely i would say
[14:21] <MrSassyPants> well, I guess its about the same here then
[14:21] <MrSassyPants> (not that I would be available for testing right now, I had a friend with a windows 10 laptop over a few weeks ago, that's where I noticed the problem)
[14:22] <roy_> ok and what workaroud do you use, or maybe you do not use samba at all?
[14:22] <MrSassyPants> yeah just an external drive
[14:23] <roy_> well that shurely solves :)
[14:23] <MrSassyPants> but you say "ubuntu file" actually can do it properly?
[14:23] <MrSassyPants> because I was trying dolphin too
[14:23] <MrSassyPants> and the kde smb integration
[14:25] <roy_> yes file has some hicups but it works mostly
[14:25] <roy_> i mean file in Ubuntu never tried in kubuntu
[14:27] <roy_> anyway in this days samba works pretty well windows to linux FYI
[14:29] <roy_> and shurely nautilus/file never crashed/locked the router
[14:30] <MrSassyPants> locking the router, huh?
[14:31] <roy_> yep i could live with samba not working but not without network/internet
[14:34] <roy_> when i try to browse windows/samba folder with dolphin my router crash/my ISP loks me out and i must unplug the router
[14:41] <roy_> when i try to browse windows/samba folder with dolphin my router crash/my ISP loks me out and i must unplug the router
[14:46] <MrSassyPants> it may be some virus/worm countermeasure
[14:46] <MrSassyPants> the router identifies your samba as a worm
[14:46] <MrSassyPants> and firewalls you
[14:46] <MrSassyPants> that's almost certainly what's happening
[14:49] <MrSassyPants> IIRC in 2002 there was a massive, apocalyptic worm epidemic that worked on windows xp SMB vulnerabilities, as a result of that, windows firewall and such was created
[14:50] <MrSassyPants> and various consumer routers would aggressively shut down clients who tried to SMB connect to the internet
[14:50] <MrSassyPants> I suppose that's whats happening
[14:52] <roy_> yes but i think it should happen also with ubuntu, that's not the case only kde/dolphin
[14:53] <MrSassyPants> oh, no doubt that dolphin is doing something wrong when it triggers the router to kick in anti-worm-mode
[14:54] <roy_> it's a pity because kde is way better than Gnome etc.. but less reliable it seems
[14:56] <roy_> afk
[15:01] <roy_> thanks mr sassy got to go bye
[16:01] <konrados> Morning! Is the "~/.config/autostart" directory specific to KDE, Ubuntu, or is it a general linux concept? In this dir I have apps which autostart with the system. I can manage them for example with the system settings -> autostart
[20:05] <naruuu> Hi. When I try to add a google account in "Online Accounts" then I get the error "userActionFinished error: 2". Any help/fix?
[20:09] <naruuu> Another problem is that the "Account Wizard" in kmail is not working. Is this known?
[20:23] <oerheks> naruuu, maybe you need to login via web, and into settings to accept kmail for access?
[20:30] <majorana> Hi! I look for a solution to automatically mute the speakers (= set volume to zero) whenever the headphones are unplugged. How can I accomplish this under Kubuntu?
[20:31] <majorana> * get unplugged
[20:35] <naruuu> oerheks: Ok in kmail I've found out how the "Account Wizard" works. But IMHO confusing
[20:35] <naruuu> But IMHO the implementation/dialog is confusing
[20:40] <naruuu> oerheks: After first pressing Next button I see account information. Now confusing is that I have a button "Add account" and I can still press the Next button. But when I press Next I cannot get to the next page. I have to press "Add account". Why not disabling the button "Next"?
[20:40] <valorie> that's good feedback, naruuu
[20:40] <valorie> I suggest filing a bug on https://bugs.kde.org
[20:41] <valorie> against kmail
[20:41] <naruuu> Ok I'll do that
[20:41] <naruuu> But what about the problem with the "Online Accounts"?
[20:41] <naruuu> I remember in older versions of KDE this was working fine
[20:41] <naruuu> But with the newer versions I always get an error
[20:43] <naruuu> And I have a 3rd problem with kaddressbook. I've added a google account. Now I see some accounts several times (up to 6 times!)
[21:12] <naruu> Hi. I'm currently facing a very annoying bug. When login - logout - login again then the kdewallet fails to open. It is asking for the password in an endless loop and always fails with error code -9. A known bug? Any solution?
[21:37] <N0Lif3> im on kubuntu 16.10. does 17.04 have a whole new version of KDE on it?
[21:38] <N0Lif3> I'm excited to see if they've addressed issues that I've silently had with KDE
[21:41] <viewer|62386> Hey guys and gals, does anyone know if SDDM executes scripts in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ before login or after?
[21:45] <valorie> naruu: sounds like a permission problem
[21:46] <valorie> perhaps CHOWN your $HOME to make sure?
[21:46] <valorie> !chown
[21:46] <valorie> N0Lif3: 17.04 has newer versions
[21:46] <valorie> 16.10 will soon go out of support
[21:47] <valorie> it's worthwhile to upgrade
[21:51] <naruu> valorie: This is a fresh installed kubuntu 17.04. Would be VERY strange if there are any permission problems
[21:52] <naruu> valorie: The kdewallet works find at the first login. But after logout and login again kdewallet fails opening
[21:57] <N0Lif3> valorie: shouldn't there be a distro upgrade in Discover? I can't find it
[22:06] <acheronuk> N0Lif3: the code in discover for that got ripped out by KDE. which got missed :/
[22:12] <N0Lif3> kinda lame how I had to google the cheat code, so to speak, to upgrade.
[22:12] <N0Lif3> as if in a million years I'd ever be able to intuitively know to write "  kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" " in the console on my own
[23:35] <valorie> acheronuk: is there a bug filed in bko about Discover?
[23:35] <valorie> sorry, I was afk
[23:44] <acheronuk> valorie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1682684
[23:44] <valorie> right, but the devel may not look at LP
[23:45] <valorie> and that's not a packaging bug, correct?
[23:47] <acheronuk> valorie: for plasma 5.9: https://cgit.kde.org/discover.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.9&id=e42560d53d8ebe3d5fa910129ee07ebc6483db64
[23:47] <acheronuk> code that check distribution upgrades via qapt, removed ^^^
[23:50] <valorie> well, you could link to just that in bko, and also link the LP bug <>
[23:50] <valorie> so Aleix sees it
[23:51] <valorie> oops, time for dinner with the kiddies
[23:51] <acheronuk> I think depending on discover to offer distribution upgrades is a bad idea anyway
[23:52] <acheronuk> we need a qt frontend to the main ubuntu one
[23:52] <acheronuk> which lubuntu will also want if they go with lxqt
[23:52] <acheronuk> so maybe build that together
[23:54] <valorie> ooo, good idea
[23:54] <acheronuk> I mentioned to Simon
[23:55]  * valorie goes off to have dinner with the fam
[23:55] <acheronuk> valorie: or we get that functionality added into Muon
[23:55] <acheronuk> *back into Muon