=== button is now known as crayon [00:06] YankDownUnder, what should "design" mean in that statement? [00:07] their design is actually getting better lol.. still poor, but getting better [00:07] YankDownUnder: pynki: Please move such discussion elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic. [00:35] Yay, Ubuntu works and doesn't stutter like Fedora did and actually installs Grub unlike Manjaro! [00:35] WTF [00:36] Well, Manjaro and Fedora can go suck it. Ubuntu works perfectly for my Desktop thank goodness. [00:36] And I get Gnome, so I can keep my Shell Extensions from my Fedora 25 install on my Laptop [00:39] if ctrl + alt + f1 isn’t booting to a terminal, are there any other key combinationst hat might work? [00:40] bilb_ono: Alt + F1, Ctrl + Alt + F4 [00:40] ChaiTRex: hmm no dice. Shouldn’t the terminal be accessible from the boot menu as well? [00:41] It should, I'm not 100% certain though. [00:41] bilb_ono: If you enter single-user mode, yes. There's probably other ways as well. [00:41] terminal is also accesible from recovery mode [00:42] DarkPsydeLord: how do I boot into recovery mode? [00:44] well for me is rather confusing since every single time is different like the top options are... 1 press and hold shift after you passed through the "press something to bios" sentence before you get to grub 2.- press esc when booting after the same message then pick advanced options for 'insert your linux distro here' and some people claim with pause button [00:45] just find wich one works for you [00:45] just to be clear this is a grub option [00:45] I can get to boot [00:45] Im there now [00:45] all kinds of stuff except a terminal haha [00:46] shell? root? [00:46] yeah I want a shell [00:46] must work [00:46] how do I launch it? [00:48] here we go, I found how to launch recovery mode [00:49] do I want clean?, grub?, network, root? [00:49] probably root right? [00:49] deppending on what you wanna do [00:49] usually yes [00:49] whenever I boot, it just goes to a black screen with a flashing underscore at the top and hangs there [00:49] I want to fix that [00:50] oh! a DE malfunction? [00:50] whats DE? [00:51] Desktop Environment [00:51] oh wait. I tried to chose the grub option and it says: grub-probe, error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1. heck your device.map [00:51] yeah DE [00:52] does that sound like why it might not be working? [00:52] Deutsch Emporium [00:52] bilb_ono, pretty much yes now you have something new to do [00:55] my wireless mouse I think lost sync with the rf receiver [00:56] there is no sync button [00:56] is there an advanced way to do this? [00:56] Turn it off and on again? [00:57] adding new batteries? [00:57] By wireless you mean Bluetooth or with it's own adapter? [00:57] Eating it? [00:57] what is it looking on sdb1 instead of sda1? [00:57] isn’t sda usually the hard drive? [00:57] bilb_ono, do you have a raid configuration? [00:57] xangua, own adapter [00:57] it is a walmart optical mouse brand gearhead [00:58] DarkPsydeLord: I don’t know what that is so I think no [00:59] ↳ 2.4GHz 2way RF Receiver id=9 [slave pointer (2)] [00:59] so it is detected [00:59] but not syncing [00:59] bilb_ono, ok just tell me how this even happened since i dont have any background [00:59] woah, so sda is my actual hard drive, sdb was my installation medium [01:00] which it was looking for the grub on [01:00] so I need it to look on sda right? [01:00] so you tried to install from a usb and used the same usb as a grup partition [01:00] DarkPsydeLord: well my computer was working - home built, suddenly it stopped working [01:00] grub* [01:00] DarkPsydeLord: well it was installed and working for a bit [01:02] well you can install grub correctly using a livecd or the media you used originally [01:02] hmm ok [01:02] so somehow copy the files from the usb? [01:02] or do the entire reinstall thingy? [01:03] nope to both [01:04] ok [01:04] you see the files needed to boot the operating system after installation got installed in a different media which is not present so it will work after you plug that in and start [01:04] so how might I achieve this? [01:04] which ofc is not what it was intended [01:04] so theres two possible solutions [01:05] 1 is get a live cd and reinstall grub or plug the usb get into the system and reinstall grub just making sure grub will be installed to your HDD instead [01:06] both same commands [01:06] I pick 2 [01:06] what are the commands? [01:08] !grub [01:08] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [01:09] use the first link will be helpful [01:09] can the ubuntu cd be the usb drive? [01:09] or does it have to be the actual cd? [01:09] it is indeed [01:09] oh nice [01:09] ok so if I boot from usb, I should see boot-repair [01:09] right? [01:11] actually follow the terminal way [01:11] rats I forgot how to enter recovery mode [01:11] so you make sure you "restore" the grub in the correct location [01:14] ok here we go [01:14] wheres xangua i need to blame it on him now i need more chips [01:15] DarkPsydeLord: so I run sudo grub-install /dev/sda1. I get grub-install: error: cannot delete ‘/boot/grub/i386-pc/gzio.mod’: read only file system [01:16] are you sure you want to install in sda1? === Wulf4 is now known as Wulf [01:17] DarkPsydeLord: yeah. thats where my linux is [01:17] sda1, sda2, sda5 [01:17] bilb_ono: It is rare indeed that one will install grub to a partitiom ( sda1). The install of grub is to the device (sda) . [01:17] oh [01:17] just install in sda [01:17] ah I tried that too [01:18] it gave the same error: cannot delete /boot/grub/i386-pc/gzio.mod read only file system [01:19] do I need to mount something? [01:20] bilb_ono: " read only file system " implies that you are booted via recovery mode , true ? [01:21] Bashing-om: perhaps. is that what recovery means? [01:21] does this mean I can’t do this in recovery mode? [01:21] my fault i wasn't clear enough... [01:23] bilb_ono: Bot at all , hust that in recoery the kernel is linted read only . and you must explictly remount read/write : ' mount -o remount,rw / ' (Note there is no space after the comma.) . === tiktilaok is now known as imoutofideas [03:22] !ping [03:22] pong! [04:36] hey [04:37] Hankster: good morning [04:38] lotuspsychje: night here, whats up [04:40] Hankster: this channel is only for ubuntu support questions mate [04:41] lotuspsychje: yeah i had one, so how to get a live session to connect to the internet [04:41] i cant get mine to [04:41] Hankster: depends on the chipset of your wifi [04:42] Hankster: some chipsets might need 3rd party software installed to work [04:43] ok so how do i download the software if im not connected to wifi [04:43] this laptop doesnt have an ethernet input [04:44] oboobutu [04:44] dnkek: can we help you? [04:45] Hankster: depends on the chipset of your wifi... [04:45] Hankster: sudo lshw -C network [04:45] lotuspsychje: can you explain im a bit of a rookie [04:46] Hankster: before we can help you, we need more details [04:47] !details | Hankster [04:47] Hankster: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [04:47] Hankster: like the ubuntu version, the chipset of your wifi? [04:58] ok so the ubuntu version is 17.04 im not sure what the chipset is but its a BROADCOM BCM43142 802.11 bgn [04:59] crontab related question : I want to run a python script on my computer every morning 6 am, also change the workinbg directory before starting script so i did this : 0 6 * * * (cd /home/nick/ && python3 morning.py) but it is not working someehow? [04:59] If a package marks Conflict with another package, ‘dpkg -i’ fails with error. But ‘apt-get install’ says it will replace the installed package with the other one [04:59] Is there an apt-get flag to make it behave the dpkg way ? [05:01] Hankster: the broadcom driver is located on the liveusb's dir, you can try to install think somewhere in /pool [05:02] viral_mutant: explain us the whole story mate..added ppa's? ubuntu version? package its about? [05:03] lotuspsychje: can you walk me through what to do im still very new at this [05:04] Hankster: browse your liveusb, and look for the .deb of broadcom driver to install [05:06] lotuspsrychje: I am creating a deb package for Ubuntu 16.04 onwards, which is from openstack code forked from community. I need to make sure that package from Ubuntu repo and my package are not installed together so I have ‘Conflicts’ flag in my package. [05:07] Now the problem is that only ‘dpkg -i’ seems to honour this flag but ‘apt-get install’ proposes to replace the already installed ones [05:07] I am thinking if someone uses —assume-yes flag with apt-get, they will not get to know what happened [08:20] what is new swap-partition in ubuntu 17.04? [08:31] how can i remove the nvidia-352 package when th pre uninstall script fails with the error "Failed to get unit file state for var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount: No such file or directory" ? [08:32] it also seems to want to update it every apt-get dist-upgrade which also fails [08:38] I have a problem with wifi on my device. When placing my device a little further away from my modem it does not see any signals anymore. Even though there actually a pretty ok signal. Also all my other devices work fine. Mobile phones, laptops, soundbar, subwoofer which are also all connected to the same wifi signal. Where should i start looking since im a bit lost now. Just placed the device near the modem and there actually is a sig [08:38] hi [08:39] im using the bcmwl-kernel-source as well since its a broadcom card [08:47] Dirkos: try using broadcom-wl [08:47] latigidigital: or broadcom-sta right? [08:49] Dirkos: should be equivalent, yes [08:50] thanks will try === vamiry_ is now known as vamiry [09:42] Wanna talk #tech Ubuntu ? #ubuntu-offtopic is a decent place :D [09:42] !offtopic [09:42] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [09:48] My desktop runs osx but i'd like to use timemachine to backup to my ubuntu server, any good links on getting that going? [09:48] there's a few blog posts with some instructions around but most of them are a few years old now === me is now known as Guest36135 === ogra is now known as ogra_ [09:53] my wifi is disconnecting after a while :( [09:53] Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [09:54] I'm running ubuntu 17.04 [09:54] what should I do? [10:03] ô [10:03] sorry [10:07] Hey, np [10:07] Someone will come along that knows that hardware [10:13] pmurias: have a look in the syslog to see why it's disconnecting, is the card dropping, card resetting, or is the singal dropping [10:16] pmurias, Read this, about half way down. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=218991 [10:16] Morning ikonia [10:17] hello [10:18] This seems to help many of the realtec people, echo "options rtl8821ae fwlps=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8821ae.conf [10:21] Jack_Sparrow__: I'll try it the next time to problem occures [10:22] Hi. in dmesg, it was reported that a USB drive was not unmounted properly and fsck needed to be ran, so i ran fsck and it's saying there is a dirty bit. should i remove it? [10:22] will some data be lost if i remove it? [10:24] can someone help please [10:24] I would remove it and you could lose data, but probably OK. Not many options, If data is critical, try to clone it first [10:25] Jack_Sparrow__: so i removed it and i merely received "/dev/sdb1: 17648 files, 1685126/1955331 clusters" [10:25] in google, people seem to get "leaving filesystem unchanged" more, while i got this [10:26] Jack_Sparrow__: was some data lost? [10:26] No data issuses with one bit [10:27] was that mean? [10:27] what does that mean* [10:27] N way to tell if you lost anything. [10:27] No [10:27] Go look or run it === akaWolf1 is now known as akaWolf === jstein_ is now known as jstein [11:43] I have a dedicated server and looking to install kubuntu to use as a remote desktop. I have set everything up and I am managing to connect via x2go but the screen is very choppy. Any advice on what I can check to sort this out? [11:43] Guys, I'm trying to remove gnome and now I get an error: "E: Unable to locate package apt-get [11:43] E: Unable to locate package remove [11:43] " [11:44] That has arised when I removed gdm [11:44] Before that I've installed lightdm [11:45] Adding any desktop is no problem, removing surely gives a dependecie-hell [11:46] i would reinstall. [11:47] Reinstall the system? Not an option. [11:47] :( [11:48] not an option is not an option here. you might spend hours figuring out whats wrong and the next days fixing it. reinstall will be much faster [11:49] When ubuntu finally moves to snap-packages only, this issue will be over [11:49] :D [11:51] Ok. I'll reinstall the system then. I wish I was a computer savvy guy so I could fix the problems when they appear without having to reinstall the whole system. Even though the reinstallation lasts no more than 15 minutes on my PC, backup is such a pain and it lasts :( [11:51] Is snap used on 16.10? [11:51] i have a freezing ubuntu 17 machine, i was told it was probably an issue with a java but even after uninstall of it the machine freeze occasionally, where shouls i look at logs to see the particular issue that cause the system crash? [11:51] Ubuntu 16.04 LTS introduced “Snap” packages [11:51] should/should [11:52] schahermacher, freezing without return to normal? [11:52] oerheks, how many packages in current repositories are snap? [11:52] yes [11:52] oerheks [11:53] Btw, I notice hexchat that I've installed 5 minutes ago is snap. It's located in ~/snap/hexchat [11:53] Netek: my advice is to not do that [11:53] schahermacher, syslog could give a clue, i think [11:53] Ben64? [11:54] Netek: don't install kubuntu on a server [11:54] Ben64 for a personal project I require a remote desktop machine. What would you recommend? [11:54] what time perimeter before the crash should i include in the analysis? [11:54] oerheks [11:54] Netek: to do what [11:55] a remote office desktop. Running office applications, emails, etc. There will be 5 users accessing this desktop from 3 different countries [11:56] alexa, i don't know. 'snap find' will give a short list, you will need to add a letter or combination to seek deeper [11:57] Netek: i'd suggest a basic window manager, but also it doesn't seem like a great idea in general [11:57] schahermacher, if your system freezes, the last few entries will do, after boot there will be a new syslog created [11:59] oerheks https://paste.debian.net/932272/ [11:59] Netek, they need a computer to access the remote server - so they can run the applications on their machine. you can provide the storage, etc for them. a remote desktop will always give you fun with lags etc [12:00] pynki good point, [12:00] I will see what I do. I think your idea is better :) [12:03] schahermacher, nothing to see there, maybe dmesg shows something ? [12:06] oerheks, here is kernel.log https://paste.debian.net/932273/ [12:10] schahermacher, nothing to see there, sorry :-( [12:19] Hi everyone! [12:19] Since the update to 17.04 I cannot connect to my WiFi anymore. NetworkManager keeps trying and failing. [12:19] Connection under Windows on the same machine works just fine. [12:19] The NM log has this warning, amongst others: [12:19] Activation: (wifi) association took too long, failing activation [12:19] WiFi uses WPA2 PSK, No MAC filters configured [12:23] Sorry for flooding, I don't do IRC from my phone very often :( [12:24] hello [12:25] i cant get my hp printer to print under linux, it detects it and the test page says "rendering complete" but nothing comes out [12:25] why [12:25] out of ink? [12:25] no [12:25] works with windows10 [12:29] Did my previous messages get filtered out because of flooding? [12:31] if you saw 'cannot send to channel' it was [12:35] thanks rud0lf [12:35] Then here we go again [12:35] Since the update to 17.04 I cannot connect to my WiFi anymore. NetworkManager keeps trying and failing. Connection under Windows on the same machine works just fine. [12:36] raphinesse, if you have multi line things to paste: paste them somewhere in a patebin kinda thing and give us the link jere [12:36] The NM log has this warning, amongst others: "Activation: (wifi) association took too long, failing activation". [12:36] It's just a longer problem description [12:36] The WiFi uses WPA2 PSK, no MAC filters configured [12:36] Here's the output of inxi -Fxxrzc0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24561642/ [12:37] Any ideas on how to investigate further? [12:39] raphinesse, the internet suggest turning of 802.11n on your router [12:40] I plugged-in a sony HD-sp1 external hard disk & Ubuntu can't recognize it. I can't seem to find any solution by just googling it. Can anyone help me? [12:40] raphinesse, what is you were to boot the ubuntu desktop dvd without installing. see if sound works when the desktop loads? [12:40] maybe you can views which drivers are loading [12:40] view [12:41] rcmainak, is it a usb drive? does 'lsusb' show it if it is one? [12:43] pynki that is the one advice I found, but out is not an option. And it did work with 16.10 before [12:43] raphinesse: do you have firmware-ralink installed? [12:44] raphinesse, mac adress randomization, perhaps. nm seems to do funny stuff since 17.04 [12:44] jushur: I did not do anything to that effect. Should I? [12:44] I dont suppose anyone has tried running the widows program Xshell in Wine on ubuntu? [12:44] pynki, It's a external hard drive, I'm connecting it use USB. `lsusb` does shows something that has sony on it & I don't have any sony device connected to my computer so, I think `lsusb` does sow it [12:44] *show [12:45] rcmainak, plug it in, 'lsusb', unplug it, 'lsusb' - to make sure the device it was you think it is ;) [12:46] hehe, that's easiest way to found out lol. thank you for that [12:46] pynki, I tried setting a different Mac for the connection, since I thought the router might still associate the actual Mac with the windows connection, but to no effect [12:46] pynki, yes! it's what I think it's [12:47] rcmainak, then run 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' while plugging it in again and paste thoutput somewhere so we can see what happens. here for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [12:47] roger that [12:47] raphinesse, the Nm randomizes the mac - not you :P [12:48] that was causing some problewms with some wifi cards [12:48] pynki, well then we both did ;) === KindTwo is now known as uptime [12:48] pynki, can I disable that? [12:49] pynki, since I also have to connect to Mac filtered networks [12:50] Hiyas all [12:50] pynki, here you go - > http://paste.ubuntu.com/24567188/ [12:51] raphinesse, yes, google will help [12:53] thanks, I'll try that then and report back with the results [12:57] who in their right mind decided on Gnome? huh? because KDE Plasma kicks it's ass [12:57] Kyoku, you can still use KDE Plasma I guess or are they turning it into windows [12:58] Kyoku, no profanity please. also chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is the support channel. [12:58] Kyoku, SABDFL [12:58] !flavors <<< in fact, you can use any number of *buntus [12:58] The command ‘!flavors’ isn’t available. 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To no effect [13:05] raphinesse, oke, it was worth the try [13:05] well, when I get the ip from, $(wget -q -O - http://ipecho.net/plain) and then add to iptables, as follows; iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 ! -d $IP -j DROP [13:05] my connection get blocked [13:05] not sure what im doing wrong. [13:06] LankanGuy, are you sure it is eth0 ? interfacenaming has changes recently [13:06] oerheks, how do I find that out? [13:06] "ifconfig" would show the current interface names [13:07] way to find out?:) [13:07] mine are enp2s0 and enp2s1 [13:08] oerheks, can I find it through ip addr show ? [13:08] LankanGuy, no, "ifconfig" would show the current interface names [13:09] its eth0 [13:09] i got eth1, lo, tun0 and wlan0 [13:10] oops [13:10] i got eth0, lo, tun0 and wlan0 [13:10] eth1 <> eth0 ?? [13:10] sorry eth0 what i got, it was typo :) [13:10] LankanGuy: you're trying to block outbound traffic to another ip? [13:11] good, then i have no clue, i have little experience with iptables [13:11] im try to block outbound only go through vpn dns [13:11] sorry, looks like you're trying to block all outbound traffic except for 1 source ip [13:11] it used to work before, now its not working [13:12] what im trying to do is, enable vpn, then get the ip, and block traffic which is not going through that ip [13:13] I don't think that makes a lot of sense actually [13:13] traffic doesn't originate from your public ip through your machine [13:14] you probably want your local ip [13:14] got the idea from this https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/2805zd/pia_iptables_killswitch_for_pia_and_other_vpns/ [13:15] oh right, -d, not -s [13:16] it used to work before suddently not working, something to do with my isp caused the issue i think [13:16] i'm curious if while connected to your vpn, it's getting your vpn gateway ip and blocking that, not your actual i [13:17] All: Got a few minutes this AM before getting to outside chores here at the farm on such a lovely AM here in Greenville, TX. Working on my ThunderBird email address ripping script. Having problems with an array assign. Write up at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5710031#post5710031. All help appreciated! [13:17] LankanGuy: get your ip from ipchicken.com without being connected to vpn, plug that into $IP instead of grabbing it from ipecho.com [13:17] then connect to vpn and try it [13:17] okey let me try that [13:17] Do I need a special install to do an unattended installation? I'd like to set installation to happen and then go to work, and have Ubuntu installed when I get back 4 hours later. [13:18] Join me on the #bash channel for discussion on this [13:18] TBotNik, that old 2016 issue is suddenly hot? [13:19] oerheks: " Today, 08:11 AM" [13:19] oerheks: ?? [13:19] oerheks: you're looking when he registered [13:19] oh, my bad, i read the register date [13:19] skinux: yes, preseed, probably be better off with kickstart [13:19] oerheks: LOL! [13:20] KickStart is a specific ISO? [13:20] leftyfb, in iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 ! -d $IP -j DROP, $IP is the ip before going through the VPN, right? [13:20] skinux: no, it's a file of installation answers and actions. You pass it to the kernel parameters and store it either locally on your installation media or on a web server [13:21] LankanGuy: yes [13:21] So, I add it to the burn image along side the ISO? [13:22] skinux: start with preseed to get an idea of what sorts of things it does. preseed it pretty limited. kickstart can do way more including running shell commands/scripts as well as preseed calls [13:22] skinux: yup, or build a pxe server for your network. I feel that is a lot easier and quicker for troubleshooting while you build your script [13:22] I just want a standard installation, but I want it to do it while I'm at work. [13:23] skinux: yup, it'll do what you need [13:23] skinux: it's not something you'll have working today [13:24] skinux: it's going to take time to learn and build [13:24] lots of trial and error [13:24] Yeah, this is too complicated, I'll just start the installation and do whatever finishing I have to do after work. [13:25] leftyfb, when I add that , my ip appear in iptables as DROP all -- anywhere !203-214-115-221.dyn.iinet.net.au, not 203-214-115-221, is that cause issues? [13:25] if it's just for 1 installation, then yeah, not worth it. But if it's something you want to automate and simplify going forward, it'll be worth looking into [13:25] LankanGuy: pretty sure that is how that script works [13:26] leftyfb, still blocking :( [13:26] LankanGuy: get the ip before connecting, add it to the script like you did, connect to VPN , then run the script [13:26] LankanGuy: btw, this really shouldn't have anything to do with your ISP or any changes they could have made [13:26] leftyfb, whats what I did [13:27] thats what I did, still not working [13:27] LankanGuy: at the moment, when you connect to VPN but don't run the script, can you connect out? [13:27] yes [13:28] LankanGuy: can you post your entire script to pastebin.com? [13:28] ok [13:30] LankanGuy: are you connected to wireless at all? [13:33] leftyfb, no wired only, https://pastebin.com/A2Neg5pE [13:34] line 26, i manually add the ip addres before vpn [13:34] plus i check the connection via pinging google.com [13:35] ah, right [13:35] LankanGuy: remove the ! [13:36] ah okie [13:37] well without !, it wouldnt work at all [13:38] did you try it? [13:38] it works when I remove !, then it works either if vpn running or not [13:39] you should be blocked without vpn [13:39] nop vpn turn off, and it wasnt blocked i can ping google === jstein_ is now known as jstein [13:40] https://pastebin.com/iGBx47n4 [13:41] not sure then, to be honest i'm not even sure how this works. I don't think traffic originating from your pc is ever destined for your public ip [13:45] thanks for trying, one thing I noticed, when I try to ping google.com, it resolved the ip for google.com, should that be blocked as well [13:45] PING google.com (216.58.199.46) 56(84) bytes of data. [13:45] oh, I see .... maybe it's assuming the public ip that shows up when connected to vpn is the dns. That would make sense blocking dns traffic, but then I think it would only allow resolution, but not the rest of the traffic [13:46] again, maybe it's assuming the vpn public ip is the gateway ... which MIGHT be true depending on the vpn you're using, but it's a poor assumption [13:47] i know its not perfect, but I dont get it why it suddenty stop working :( [13:48] LankanGuy: connect to the vpn, get the public ip (I'm thinking it shouldn't match your isp's ip), then look at your default route using "route -n" [13:48] if it's going to work with the original script, those 2 should match [13:49] hello, can anyone follow me to install ubuntu? i want dual boot, with uefi and i do not want to read tons of guide to install it :/ [13:50] erto, nope. use the written tutorials for best results. [13:51] there is not a specific one for my msi bios version [13:51] you don't need one specific to your msi bios version [13:51] erto: https://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/ [13:52] there is not a specific tutorial for the vast majority of bios verisons, erto [13:53] there's no reason a tutorial needs to be tied to a specific bios version [13:53] ok but most of those guides suppose that people knows a lot of things about uefi, i don't even know what i have [13:54] erto: follow the tutorial I gave you [13:54] leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/7Rbgw6y4 [13:55] erto: if you need to disable secure boot, then yes, you'll need to look through your bios settings to find the setting. Nobody here is going to know your bios menu's [13:55]