[00:53] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - i386 - i386 built.
[01:13] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[10:56] <Spass> I'm planning to move Xubuntu testing to my main machine and I want to set it up similar to what flocculant was talking yesterday what he has
[10:57] <Spass> that way I'll be able to do exploratory testing more often
[10:59] <Spass> I have small questions regarding that, I have two drives in my machine 120GB for OS and 500GB for data, I want to install something stable on 120GB and use it as my main machine and I want to use some space from 500GB to create two partitions for Xubuntu daily installs
[10:59] <Spass> one with all PPAa enabled, and the other one "pure" daily
[11:00] <Spass> question 1) is it better to do testing on PPA enabled install with newest packages or on pure daily?
[11:02] <Spass> 2) how much space I'll need for these installs? I'm thinking 40GB for pure and 60GB for PPA enabled with some more stuff
[11:03] <Spass> 3) I assume when I'll install current AA daily I can just 'apt upgrade' it from time to time and I will be OK?
[11:40] <flocculant> 1 - that's the one I run as my daily
[11:41] <flocculant> 2 - if there's no data in the installs the answer is different :) my daily is probably too big - it has 17Gb of free space
[11:41] <flocculant> similar for my other artful install
[11:41] <flocculant> 3 - yes 
[11:43] <flocculant> Spass: all my installs go on my 120Gb drive - the 2 artfuls and the 16.04
[11:45] <flocculant> as I said - probably all too big - and I have ~52Gb of free space there
[11:45] <flocculant> but - all of my real data is elsewhere on 3 other drives
[11:47] <Spass> ok, so I'll do something like - PPA 75GB, non-PPA 25GB, because I'll add some stuff on that bigger testing install, like Steam games, NVIDIA drivers from PPA etc.
[11:47] <Spass> I'll have a reason to boot to it from time to time, to do some gaming ;)
[11:48] <Spass> my plan is to keep my main OS on 120GB completely separate, without any unstable packages and non-free software even
[11:50] <flocculant> yep - that all sounds sensible 
[11:50] <Spass> and I will install Xubuntu LTS on my laptop and occasionally do some Live Session testing from USB on it if needed
[11:55] <Spass> but before that I'll finish testing daily packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ on that laptop
[11:57] <Spass> ok, so I guess that's a plan, yesterday's session was helpful, thanks
[11:59] <flocculant> thanks - makes it worthwhile for me :)
[12:00] <flocculant> bbl
[13:39] <bluesabre> morning all
[14:59] <bluesabre> interesting fact, video does not work in parole when running with CSD (probably because the X libraries were dropped with GTK3 in those areas)
[15:01] <bluesabre> and opengl seems to lock up intel graphics with a core 2 duo :D
[15:55] <stevehope> does 17.04 have https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=13541%2C13562 ?
[17:35] <Spass> I have a problem with today's daily ISO, it won't boot, tried creating USB with gnome-disks and Etcher
[17:36] <Spass> I see Plymouth screen with logo and spinning circle, it takes a while, then > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8qh4-wxxEZ7dGxtcmtVNEh6M0U
[17:37] <Spass> ISO downloaded twice, using Firefox and zsync
[17:52] <Spass> hmm, it boots in VirtualBox
[18:13] <Spass> tried again, legacy and uefi boot, pc and laptop, no success
[20:20] <flocculant> yup - not just ours though - checked 2 others:)