[00:01] <Bashing-om> hfp: Show us what you see : ' sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda | pastebinit ' .
[00:03] <hfp> Bashing-om: neat trick! paste.ubuntu.com/24570930
[00:07] <Bashing-om> hfp: Does not look good to me . But. let's await another informed opinion .
[00:08] <hfp> Bashing-om: why not? bad sectors etc is at 0, what do you see that's bad?
[00:11] <i336> hi. I have installed all -dbg packages from https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds. They work fine, but I am confused as to how to utilize their debugging information. The -dbg packages seem to contain a /usr/lib/debug directory, and inside there is a brand new /usr/lib tree.
[00:12] <i336> well, a new /usr/lib/chromium-browser tree. inside _that_ tree are a set of files that match what it is in /usr/lib/chromium-browser, but file says "interpreter *empty*" for all of them, and they do not run.
[00:12] <i336> I've done some digging around and apparently the two recognized debug mechanisms are the build-id approach and the gnu_debuglink approach.
[00:13] <i336> there *is* a .build-id/<hash> folder inside /usr/lib/debug/, but it only contains a single 64MB file./
[00:13] <i336> none of the ELF "binaries" in debug/chromium-browser contain gnu_debuglink sections.
[00:14] <i336> I know this is about chromium, but this is the launchpad package (and I'm not sure if official chromium has debug symbols) so I thought I'd ask her.e
[00:14] <i336> here.*
[00:14] <i336> if anyone has suggestions as to other channels I can ask I'd be happy to hear that too.
[00:14] <i336> thanks!
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow__> !chromium
[00:16] <i336> hmm
[00:16] <i336> Jack_Sparrow__: PSA, the bot should be updated. "PPA description: This PPA is dead."
[00:16] <i336> "Latest updates: chromium-browser" "266 weeks"
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow__> I was just reading that, thamls
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow__> thanks
[00:19] <i336> all good
[00:19] <Bashing-om> hfp: I am looking at " Unexpect_Power_Loss_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       808 && Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       261 " .
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow__> I use chrome for hulu and netflix here
[00:20] <i336> Jack_Sparrow__: I see. fwiw, I'm scrambling around to keep up with where to find precompiled 32-bit copies of chromium for my old laptop. I've been using ppa.launchpad.net/saiarcot895/chromium-dev/ubuntu/ (there's also -beta) for a while, but this seems to be updated quite sporadically
[00:21] <i336> so I did some poking around and found ~canonical-chromium-builds
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow__> 32 bit is dead, hardware especially used is cheap
[00:21] <i336> I agree
[00:22] <i336> I have a couple flaky 64-bit machines here, but they have issues
[00:22] <i336> :P
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow__> Try a bunch of live versions on them, ipv6 set to ignore, install with land line to your router for the install then go wireless
[00:24] <hfp> Bashing-om: I see. The Runtime_Bad_Block is described as "The count of the number of times SATA interface selected lower signaling rate due to error." on this page: https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SMART_attributes_of_Intel_SSDs. I thought the really nasty stuff was Reallocated_Sector_Ct and that's 0 :s
[00:24] <i336> Jack_Sparrow__: oh you mean to see what ubuntu will do when asked to load debug info? interesting idea
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow__> I use most versions of Ubuntu and Mint, mostly Mate
[00:25] <i336> right.
[00:27] <Bashing-om> hfp: True, I adhere to my former. let's await other's opinions here also .
[00:28] <hfp> Bashing-om: Sure, thanks. I could get the machine going again by using a backup superblock as per https://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox#148820 although I'm still not sure why it happened in the first place. A failing SSD is a possibility but idk how to tell/
[00:31] <Bashing-om> hfp: That is also my supposition . Re-installing and getting read only file system, makes the drive suspect .
[00:33] <qxt> Just installed 16.04 LTS desktop. Wondering why firefox can not play HTML5 videos with x264?
[00:34] <qxt> Using firefox to watch html5 videos I get a "unsupported stream"
[00:35] <qxt> ofc YT works fine. It is when I watch videos from Plex
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow__> restricted-extras ?
[00:35] <qxt> is that needed for x264?
[00:37] <nolsen> Um, how to diagnose why is my snaps showing a black screen?
[00:37] <nolsen> Example: https://cloud.nolsen.xyz/s/vBw7LAgByemYVVG
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow__> Does any of his help.. https://sites.google.com/site/installationubuntu/home/ubuntu-14-04-lts/firefox-and-h-264
[00:39] <qxt> thx
[00:59] <i336> okay, I had the paths wrong
[00:59] <i336> finally straced gdb
[01:00] <i336> it was looking in the wrong spot :P you need to configure the debug dir, and that debug dir needs to itself have a full path heirarchy to the binary.
[01:01] <i336> so eg if the binary is in ~, you need ~/aaa/bbb/debug/home/.../aaa/bbb/
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow__> good to know tx
[01:09] <MarkB3> When I log in, I want a global environment variable set.  SWT_GTK3=0 .  I've put that into .bashrc, into .profile, into .bash_profile .. and it's not coming up when I start a terminal and $ echo $SWT_GTK3 .  All that comes back in an empty result.
[01:10] <MarkB3> A clue would be appreciated...
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow__> would that go in grub where you have quiet splash ?
[01:14] <MarkB3> I .. do not know.  The system is set to automatically log me in... and I don't know the execution path from there.
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow__> are you running elementary ?
[01:25] <MarkB3> Hmm.. I don't know what "elementary" means in this context.  The system is Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.  It boots.. then I bring up a Terminal.. type $echo $SWT_GTK3 and out pops a blank line.  So the various .startup files I've been editing haven't done the job.
[01:25] <MarkB3> So now I'm trying to trace the execution path to see just where things are going when logging in.
[01:26] <rhs> what event in hexchat->sounds is the one when my nick appears ?
[01:26] <scythefwd> anyone done much with setting gradients in conky for cpu load?
[01:27] <scythefwd> wanna have it shift from green to red as my total cpu usage gets higher
[01:28] <pynki> root
[01:28] <pynki> :/ sry
[01:29] <pynki> MarkB3, you want that set all the time when you login? Not just in the terminal you open. right?
[01:30] <MarkB3> pynki: Yes.  It turns out Eclipse, if it "sees" gtk3 in the system, wants to use it.   On this computer, though, it's terribly slow.
[01:30] <MarkB3> A workaround is to put SWT_GTK3 into the environment.. and Eclipse falls back to the faster (if dated) interface.
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> !fglrx | Jack_Sparrow__
[01:31] <MarkB3> Why do I want it in my global environment?
[01:31] <MarkB3> Because I'm starting Eclipse from a desktop icon, not a command line.
[01:32] <pynki> MarkB3, what i would do is: create a script, export the $VAR you need and then let it start eclipse
[01:33] <pynki> or use the eclipse.ini for that
[01:33] <MarkB3> I did try that.  When I mark the script as executable and put it in ~/Desktop, left-clicking on it brings up an editor.
[01:33] <MarkB3> Putting it in eclipse.ini is ..too late.. in the startup for eclipse.  Apparently the decision is made much earlier.
[01:34] <MarkB3> Well, "much" is a relative term.  It's made earlier.
[01:35] <MarkB3> As best I can tell.. when I log in, bash starts up... it's not clear at that point if it's an interactive shell.  But the start-up eventually produces a GUI desktop.. which means "startx" must be running from somewhere.
[01:36] <pynki> MarkB3, and then x is started, and 2134346 other things init and one will set SWT_GTK3=1 i assume, or more than one.
[01:36] <pynki> you do not want to set that globally
[01:37] <pynki> if you need it only for eclipse
[01:37] <MarkB3> ... if I don't set it globally then I'll have to write something (yes, I can do it) that sets the environment variable then invokes the script that runs from /usr/bin/eclipse .
[01:38] <MarkB3> I don't think the .desktop files allow setting a variable before launching an application.
[01:39] <pynki> #!/bin/bash export SWT_GTK3=0 /usr/bin/eclipse & exit 0
[01:39] <MarkB3> Hmm..
[01:39] <pynki> every second [space] is a linebreak
[01:39] <pynki> ...or not :P
[01:39] <MarkB3> And I just got another surprise...
[01:39] <pynki> just place line breaks at the desired places
[01:41] <pynki> https://askubuntu.com/questions/80013/how-to-pin-eclipse-to-the-unity-launcher/53061#53061 here the answer on how to make that script available to the launcher bar
[01:44] <MarkB3> Hmm.. might have found the solution.. checking.
[01:45] <MarkB3> be right back..
[01:52] <skinux> Is there a special way Ubuntu has to be burned to DVD to install?
[01:55] <blunderful> The open source radeon driver doesn't seem to work with my GPU from 2008 or so.
[01:56] <blunderful> even though it says it's officially supported by Ubuntu's Radeon Driver...any ideas why?
[01:57] <MarkB2> pynki: I forgot to put "export" in front of SWT_GTK3=0.   in .profile there is now   export SWT_GTK3=0   and eclipse sped up nicely.
[02:00] <pynki>  MarkB2, well, well, well
[02:01] <MarkB2> nothing succeeds like success.
[02:01] <MarkB2> (my work boss keeps saying that...)
[02:02] <pynki> except cats
[02:05] <mguy> blunderful: what GPU do yo you hav
[02:05] <blunderful> Mobility Radeon HD 4670
[02:15] <mguy> blunderful: what is actually not working
[02:15] <mguy> blunderful: You used to have to use the legacy drivers for that card
[02:15] <blunderful> It shows four blurry screens on my only monitor.
[02:16] <blunderful> With each having some part cut off
[02:29] <Shaan> Hi, Has anyone got any experience doing Full Disk Encryption, on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[02:30] <Shaan> What software if any exists that works similar to truecrypt except on Ubuntu?, offering full disk encryption including /boot and pre-boot authentication?
[02:31] <pynki> Shaan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto have a  look at this
[02:32] <Shaan> pynki: that only uses dm_crypt or cryptoloop the latter has security issues.
[02:33] <Shaan> and dm_crypt wont do what I need.
[02:33] <pynki> it gives you the base layer i think and then you add your own /bbot encryption on top of that.
[02:34] <Shaan> pynki: it's rather confusing.
[02:35] <Mathisen> luks ?
[02:38] <pynki> Shaan, http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/ this could be used to get an idea on hwo to do it
[02:39] <juanonymous> greets, just wanted to ask why my audio is not working. i don't think that this is a driver issue though since i can detect it.
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !sound | juanonymous
[02:45] <juanonymous> oh
[02:45] <juanonymous> my sound is ok, it is just that the one i am playing has no audio in it.
[02:46] <juanonymous> sorry, but thanks for the help Bashing-om
[02:47] <Bashing-om> juanonymous: :) all's well that is well .
[02:50] <pynki> Shaan, https://github.com/rdkr/lvm-on-luks
[02:54] <pynki> Shaan, https://www.summet.com/blog/2016/11/26/installing-an-encrypted-partition-with-lvm-dual-boot-on-ubuntu-16-04/ seems not that uncommon to do it  - even some consider it totally useless - and the guides are easily found on google :P
[02:55] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[02:56] <Umeaboy> Somehow Unity is set to another resolution that what's chosen in 17.04.
[02:57] <pynki> you haev a screenshot of that Umeaboy ?
[02:58] <Umeaboy> pynki: Hold on......
[02:59] <Umeaboy> pynki: http://imgur.com/a/oybq4
[02:59] <Umeaboy> Changing it to 1920x1080 makes it even worse.
[02:59] <Umeaboy> That's the optimal screen resolution for me.
[03:01] <Umeaboy> Any tips?
[03:01] <Umeaboy> It was working fine in 16.04 and 16.10.
[03:02] <pynki> Umeaboy, n9oBZhQ.jpg (JPEG Image, 3840 × 2160 pixels)
[03:03] <pynki> the resolution is fine
[03:03] <Umeaboy> pynki: Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhm........ WHUUUUUUUUUT? I'm not using Hexchat atm so I guess I can't see any links.
[03:03] <Umeaboy> Don't you see that it's set to a smaller resolution?
[03:04] <pynki> no links, but your screenshot has the desired resolution of 3840x2160
[03:04] <Umeaboy> It makes the window for Skype not looking OK.
[03:04] <Umeaboy> Skype looks to have a different resolution than what's set in the settings.
[03:06] <pynki> i am not sure what you mean by that! the video resolution is bad? the skype window has "lange pixels"?
[03:07] <Umeaboy> Let me show you....... Hold on....
[03:07] <pynki> i can see the skype online-logo in the top right is a bit blurry - i assume its not made for such a big resolution and they just stretch the pixels
[03:09] <Umeaboy> pynki: http://imgur.com/a/RMEwe
[03:09] <Umeaboy> NO, I'm not using Backports medias.
[03:12] <pynki> to me that skype login screen looks totally fine
[03:12] <pynki> it has a fixed size i think and thats why its small
[03:12] <Umeaboy> I guess I should take it with the people at #xorg
[03:13] <Umeaboy> Or #wayland
[03:13] <Umeaboy> And where do I change that?
[03:19] <pynki> Umeaboy, it looks like this after login? http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/04/skype-interface-100580047-orig.png
[03:22] <skinux> is there a special way I have to burn the DVD installation ISO?
[03:24] <pynki> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu skinux
[03:25] <Umeaboy> pynki: Yes.
[03:25] <skinux> Oh, wait no, I need to burn it with Windows 10
[03:25] <Umeaboy> skinux: Use unetbootin. :)
[03:26] <Umeaboy> Or win32diskimager
[03:26] <Umeaboy> Preferrably.
[03:27] <pynki> Umeaboy, seems to be a known issue. couldn't find anything about on how to fix it. this article has some general hints on how to make big resolutions look better - but skype seems to be an issue http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html. this thread has some chatter about problems on widows with skype and high resolution screens https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4721751
[03:27] <hfp> Hmmm so it seems that Ubuntu 17.04 + full disk encryption + homedir encryption = superblock I/O errors... Not sure why though, but I can reproduce consistently on a newly installed 17.04
[03:30] <skinux> Umm, that appears to be for creating a bootable USB, not DVD disc.
[03:31] <pynki> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows skinux
[03:32] <pynki> one of the shortest tutorials i have ever seen! and in addition: top result on google for the search term " ubuntu burn dvd windows" :P
[03:33] <skinux> Okay, well, that's what I did already except I didn't verify the disc.
[03:33] <pynki> you made sure the image is downloaded coresct?
[03:34] <pynki> skinux, i assume you have problems booting the dvd?
[03:35] <skinux> Yeah, it just goes right into booting Windows
[03:35] <Umeaboy> skinux: Disable fast boot.
[03:36] <skinux> I didn't see fast boot in BIOS
[03:36] <pynki> its a windows feature and shouldn't mess up your boot priorities i think
[03:36] <pynki> as long as you choose the right device to boot in the bios
[03:36] <skinux> Oh, how do I disable it?
[03:37] <Umeaboy> skinux: It should be in the Power management settings.
[03:37] <Latrina> good evening everybody
[03:37] <Latrina> I have a glitch with gnome-shell 3.18.5 and application switcher focusing on a tab http://i.imgur.com/i2oYDqC.png
[03:38] <Latrina> apparently this happened after reinstalling ubuntu-desktop on 16.04. Any ideas? I created a new test account and all is good. I seem to have the issue only with my own account
[03:38] <pynki> controlpanel - hardware adn sound - power options - system settings skinux. but it should not change anything about booting another device
[03:41] <skinux> I don't see any settings related to fast boot, just about when to turn off the screen.
[03:42] <pynki> skinux, https://imgur.com/a/jAtDE
[03:43] <pynki> skinux, i do not think that turning that off will help in any way. that needs the hdd already choosen for boot. but you want the dvd drive to boot - oi think you choose that in the bios or the "quyick choose device to boot" option of your machine, right?
[03:45] <skinux> I have DVD as top boot priority, but it's ignored. I haven't found a way to access a menu to specify DVD to boot.
[03:45] <pynki> F2/F12 ?
[03:46] <Latrina> anyone?
[03:47] <pynki> Latrina, copying the settings for gnome-shell/ switcher from the new account that works?
[03:47] <skinux> F10 goes into BIOS setup, haven't tried F12
[03:47] <pynki> i cannot help with the problem itself Latrina
[03:47] <Latrina> pynki, haven't tried that yet. What file exactly do I need to copy over?
[03:48] <Latrina> also will that copy my gnome shell extensions?
[03:48] <pynki> Latrina, i do not know. :/
[03:48] <Latrina> I will investigate. Thanks
[03:49] <pynki> Latrina, its a program specific problem - you might wait days until someone here come up with that specific knowledge i think. Getting a clean config that is proven to work is just the first thing i would do to fix the problem without having the trouble of researching the particular problem
[03:51] <Latrina> pynki, fair enough, though I spent way too long achieving this sane (for me at least) setup.
[03:51] <Latrina> I will keep that in mind ..
[03:51] <michagogo> I see the +1 channel says 17.10 is called Artful Aardvark - when was that announced? IIRC names are usually announced on Mark Shuttleworth's blog, but I don't see anything there.
[03:53] <pynki> michagogo, you see a zesty anouncment there?
[03:53] <pynki> ohh now i see it :D
[03:56] <pynki> michagogo, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history#Ubuntu_17.10_.28Artful_Aardvark.29
[04:00] <michagogo> Is that an official announcement/decision, or is it just a placeholder by the archive admins because they needed to be able to open it for development? Is it possible to change?
[04:32] <vahe> hi all , not working wifi. can you help me ?
[04:32] <vahe> no listing for wlan0
[04:32] <EriC^^> vahe: try rfkill list
[04:33] <vahe> EriC^^: not showing list
[04:34] <EriC^^> vahe: try dmesg | grep wlan0
[04:34] <EriC^^> is it usb wifi card?
[04:34] <vahe> and exactly the same is not showing
[04:35] <vahe> this minipc I don't even know what is there
[04:35] <EriC^^> vahe: try lspci | grep -i wireless
[04:36] <EriC^^> vahe: try lspci | grep -Ei "wireless|network"
[04:36] <vahe> the strange thing is that wifi only works on ubuntu14.1 unity ))) not working no more any other
[04:38] <adammw111> hi all, tried on both 16.04 and 17.10 gnome builds, having trouble adding google to gnome online accounts
[04:38] <adammw111> any ideas where I can start to debug?
[04:38] <vahe> EriC^^: both teams are similarly not showing , just go down one row
[04:39] <vahe> EriC^^: nothing showed
[04:40] <vahe> EriC^^: the feeling that wlan0 disappeared :)
[04:47] <dave0x6d> Why is snapd taking so much memory? https://i.imgur.com/EhOtmI9.png
[04:48] <maxagaz> hi
[04:48] <maxagaz> I've got a PC/SmartTV Malata, I can't install ubuntu on it, the BIOS InsydeH20 is *very* simple but I can still set the boot priority, however, it always boot on Windows and not the USB stick installed with UnetBootin
[04:49] <maxagaz> is there something I can still do to install ubuntu on it ?
[04:49] <EriC^^> vahe: try grep -Ei "wifi|wireless|wlan" /var/log/kern.log
[04:53] <maxagaz> My computer is a Malata IPTV-C001 (Type 2 - Board Serial Number), version ICT-M20.01.02
[04:54] <vahe> EriC^^: https://lut.im/uXl1DcgZ9Y/nqVWpvUPHrvFiKoN.jpg
[04:55] <vahe> I can't show you differently as there is no connection )
[04:57] <EriC^^> vahe: ubuntu 16.04?
[04:57] <vahe> yes
[04:57] <vahe> now yes
[04:58] <EriC^^> is there anything in bios about the wifi? did you reset the bios recently?
[04:58] <EriC^^> it should mention it for me it says May  7 10:27:02 e kernel: [   14.549154] wlan0: Broadcom BCM4365 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 6.30.223.271 (r587334)
[04:58] <vahe> EriC^^: no, I did nothing
[04:58] <EriC^^> it's like not even seeing it at all, hmm
[04:59] <vahe> this is a very strange device))
[05:00] <EriC^^> vahe: check the bios
[05:00] <EriC^^> if there's a wireless, try to disable it, save, exit, then enter and enable it again and save
[05:00] <vahe> EriC^^: MeLE PCG02U
[05:01] <LankanGuy> Hi all, Im try to create a vpn kill switch, stop traffic when vpn is down, only way to do that by getting the vpn ip address via  route -n, is there is a another way to get this ip so I can use it on iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 ! -d $IP -j DROP
[05:02] <EriC^^> vahe: try sudo lshw -C network
[05:03] <Kyros> LankanGuy: yeah id like to know how to do that also
[05:04] <vahe> EriC^^: https://lut.im/hO9140pHns/qIB8Uk4awSUkR6K3.jpg bios :)
[05:05] <EriC^^> vahe: try advanced and chipset
[05:07] <vahe> EriC^^: https://lut.im/WyrsTH53za/plcflpIhWS1w7e1H.jpg
[05:07] <EriC^^> anything in advanced or chipset in the biod?
[05:08] <EriC^^> bios*
[05:08] <vahe> min
[05:09] <vahe> EriC^^: 1. https://lut.im/YCZ4vyOpgU/TqFgn3xkfODGWj5N.jpg
[05:09] <Kyros> LankanGuy: some quick goolge searches suggests to me his isnt an easy problem to solve
[05:09] <vahe> EriC^^: https://lut.im/6sYrW172Tf/HjwkgHzFmXer8nh1.jpg
[05:10] <LankanGuy> Kyros, i used to use  $(wget -q -O - http://ipecho.net/plain) to get the ip then block it, somehow i cant do that anymore, look like I need to get the ip from route -n.
[05:11] <EriC^^> vahe: search for wireless in them
[05:12] <vahe> ok
[05:14] <Zman__> Has anyone figured out how to fix the bug where your mouse disappears after suspend?
[05:15] <tgm4883> Zman__: you'd need to link to a bug report
[05:15] <Zman__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1573454
[05:16] <Zman__> But I have Nivida
[05:18] <tgm4883> Zman__: if you have nvidia, did you file a bug report?
[05:18] <tgm4883> because that one is already fixed
[05:19] <Zman__> There is already a bug for nivida I have been following the one I posted because that is what everyone has been posting to
[05:20] <vahe> EriC^^: no mention about the wireless or wifi
[05:20] <vahe> nothing :(
[05:21] <Zman__> whats the fix because it is not in the thread I posted
[05:22] <tgm4883> Zman__: the thread you posted is marked a duplicate of this bug
[05:22] <tgm4883> !bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604
[05:23] <TiMiDo> Hey I have a question. I just install Ubuntu. I'm trying to setup wordpress, I see it already in /var/www but when I click localhost/wordpress/ it says this Not Found
[05:23] <TiMiDo> The requested URL /wordpress was not found on this server.
[05:25] <LankanGuy> hey if app required ubuntu 12.04 or grater , can run in raspbian?
[05:28] <dax> TiMiDo: the document root for Ubuntu these days is /var/www/html, not /var/www
[05:28] <dax> LankanGuy: ask raspbian
[05:28] <dax> TiMiDo: if you want to put stuff in /var/www/wordpress, you'd need to edit your Apache config to point it over there
[05:29] <Zman__> Dont see the fix for Nivida just intel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1573454
[05:29] <dax> (or if you're using the wordpress package in Ubuntu (which I wouldn't recommend), you might need to enable some config and it'll do it for you. I'm not sure)
[05:29] <LankanGuy> @dax, thanks I did i think all chat in a nap :)
[05:30] <TiMiDo> dax, how?
[05:30] <TiMiDo> How Do I enable it dax?
[05:30] <dax> TiMiDo: how did you get wordpress? from their website or from its package in Ubuntu's repos?
[05:31] <TiMiDo> apache2_invoke: Enable module php5
[05:31] <TiMiDo>  * Restarting web server apache2                                                AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[05:31] <TiMiDo> package dax
[05:31] <TiMiDo> I have to enable PHP
[05:31] <dax> I have no idea how the Ubuntu package works, unfortunately. I'm not a fan of webapp repository packages.
[05:31] <TiMiDo> is the same thing
[05:31] <TiMiDo> but anyways
[05:32] <TiMiDo> What do I need. to view php on my serveR?
[05:32] <LankanGuy> Hi, when I use "route -n",
[05:32] <LankanGuy> 46.166.186.216  192.168.1.254   255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
[05:32] <LankanGuy> where does that IP at?
[05:33] <TiMiDo> LankanGuy, man route
[05:33] <LankanGuy> 46.166.186.216 , is there is a way to grap that ip
[05:33] <TiMiDo> grap?
[05:33] <TiMiDo> define grap LankanGuy
[05:34] <LankanGuy> but there is two entries in that table, one is 0.0.0.0
[05:44] <LankanGuy> hi,  route -n | grep 'UGH[ \t]' | awk '{print $1}', i get two items, how do i pick the second item
[06:01] <hefydnawr> Hi. I'm trying to find something like, a very simple slideshow creator, or... some type of flashcard software that can flip through cards by a set time. Basically I am looking for software that will allow me to enter words/sentences and flip through them automatically
[06:01] <hefydnawr> Ideally something I could resize, put in a corner and + always on top. I've been looking through slideshow options and most seem too heavy for what Im looking for
[06:09] <Guest80769> magizian.bshellz.net
[06:17] <lapion> Hello
[06:17] <elky> Guest80769: what?
[06:19] <lapion> in ubuntu 16.04 when I set my ethernet network for ipv4 dhcp and mandatory the whole ethernet config through nm-applet gets disabled if I have a provider that provides ipv4 as well as ipv6
[06:34] <LankanGuy> hi,  route -n | grep 'UGH[ \t]' | awk '{print $1}', i get two items, how do i pick the second item?
[06:46] <ducasse> LankanGuy: tail -1 for example
[06:48] <LankanGuy> yay thanks :)
[06:59] <Komputerfreak> how can i sing karaoke at midnight and automatically blast it to the neighbours at 4 am?
[07:00] <pynki> try: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <Komputerfreak> how can i record sound at one time and play it later?
[07:04] <pynki> Komputerfreak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[07:39] <abhijit> hi
[07:39] <pynki> :o
[07:39] <abhijit> which is good cross device + open sourec password manager?
[07:39] <pynki> keepass
[07:40] <abhijit> cross device
[07:40] <abhijit> mobile!
[07:40] <A1Recon> keepassxc?
[07:40] <pynki> keepass
[07:40] <pynki> http://keepass.info/download.html
[07:40] <abhijit> ok
[07:41] <pynki> don't know what your target hardware is...but...
[07:41] <A1Recon> pynki, is keepass under active development? and support browser integration?
[07:42] <pynki> version 2.35 was released this year
[07:42] <pynki> its under active development - yes
[07:42] <pynki> what you mean with browser integration?
[07:42] <pynki> things like auto fill in passwords etc?
[07:43] <pynki> never used that feature - seems to be there, but no idea if it works
[07:43] <abhijit> where is its github?
[07:43] <ducasse> you need the keepasshttp plugin iirc
[07:44] <ducasse> A1Recon: ^^
[07:44] <pynki> plugins: here
[07:44] <pynki> http://keepass.info/plugins.html
[07:44] <A1Recon> abhijit, you want keepassxc's github?
[07:45] <pynki> abhijit, sourcecode here https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.35/KeePass-2.35-Source.zip/download
[07:46] <abhijit> anyone used this? http://rampantlogic.com/entropass/
[07:46] <abhijit> when they save master pass in browser, cant that be read by other sites / browser plugins?
[07:46] <abhijit> A1Recon: yes
[07:46] <abhijit> pynki: thanks
[07:47] <A1Recon> abhijit, https://keepassxc.org/ and this is the issue i was talking about https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/400
[07:48] <pynki> abhijit, "Impossible to brute force: the private key is like adding 80 extra characters to your password "
[07:48] <abhijit> yes, but its stored in browser.
[07:48] <pynki> impossible is one of these phrases i used to get suspicious what that thing is about...
[07:48] <abhijit> any other browser plugin can read it?
[07:49] <A1Recon> just use keepassxc or keepass abhijit
[07:49] <pynki> i do not think this is abrowser plugin
[07:50] <abhijit> ok
[07:50] <pynki> they claim i do not need to sync things... that means it must be somehow on a cetral server
[07:53] <Lupus> Good morning!
[07:54] <pynki> aloha
[07:59] <banyantree> Hi Guys, can somebody please help me to repair my ubuntu? Grub doesn't show any ubuntu.
[07:59] <banyantree> is it possible to reinstall just the kernel?
[08:00] <Komputerfreak> you probably need to refresh the bootloader
[08:00] <Komputerfreak> but it depends on your installation
[08:00] <Komputerfreak> for example, updating the bootloader can destroy the passphrase of encrypted partitions if not done carefully
[08:01] <banyantree> Komputerfreak: yesterday i tried to install steam. I didnt read the output =( ive also installed luks
[08:01] <banyantree> Komputerfreak: is there a tutorial or something?
[08:02] <banyantree> Komputerfreak: at the moment i booted up the system with an usb install stick
[08:02] <Komputerfreak> probably but it has to be done really carefully with luks, from what i remember from reading the forums
[08:02] <Komputerfreak> i never tried it myself though
[08:03] <Komputerfreak> so maybe it is better to wait for someone with more experience
[08:03] <banyantree> ok thanks
[08:03] <sebsebseb> hi
[08:06] <Komputerfreak> the problem is that the passphrase is writen in a section of the disk grubs likes to overwrite with the standard parameters - or at least this was a bug some time ago
[08:06] <Komputerfreak> *the key you access with the passphrase
[08:18] <Komputerfreak> ah, so you still can access the system? that is good.
[08:18] <Komputerfreak> related t the usb stick
[08:18] <Komputerfreak> *to
[08:22] <lkh> my wlan connection keeps dropping at random intervals. Syslog shows CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED with reason=4. What does that mean?
[08:28] <kova> Hello, I've been having problems with organizing gcc-6 and libc-6 on my Lubuntu distro, so I was wondering what I could do to revert to a minimal good configuration
[08:28] <kova> Bear with me, my situation is probably difficult to describe accurately
[08:31] <kova> It started with me wanting to install gcc-6.3 on my x86-64 system, so I naturally had to install libc6
[08:33] <ledeni> lkh, CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED with reason=4 should mean the router disconnects due to inactivity.Maybe have a look in your router config for keep-alive options.
[08:33] <kova> Except that there's libc6:i386, libc6-i386, libc6-amd64:i386, libc6-x32 and all the -dev versions
[08:35] <lkh> ledeni, trouble is, network-manager doesn't reconnect automatically, but asks for password every time - super annoying...
[08:35] <kova> Long story short, now there a few applications which, when I compile and run them, abort with a `double free or corruption` error, and I suspect it's due to the libc on my system
[08:36] <kova> If anyone were willing to sit with me or indicate a resource I could go to, I would be very much obliged
[08:36] <ledeni> lkh, witch router you have
[08:36] <Guest70320> Why aren't very old packages in the Software Centre, which haven't seen development in years, not removed?  On Fedora at least you could trust that an app you download from the Software Centre would actually run, not so much in ubuntu
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest70320  'why' questions are more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <lkh> ledeni: vodafone easybox 904dsl
[08:39] <lkh> ledeni: we don't have this problem at all with two iphones, an android phone and an acer chromebook. these devices dont disconnect, or reconnect automatically without notice...
[08:43] <YankDownUnder> lkh, If you set the connection up for using a static IP, does it do the same?
[08:44] <kova> If it helps anyone, one of my basic questions is: what's the difference between libc6:i386 and libc6-i386?
[08:46] <MonkeyDust> kova  is this useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37313639/whats-the-difference-between-libc6i386-and-libc6-i386
[08:46] <kova> MonkeyDust don't know how I didn't find that one, but thanks a lot
[08:47] <lkh> wlan dropped again ... any idea how to approach this problem?
[08:48] <ledeni> lkh, did you look in network manager for option automatically connection
[08:48] <YankDownUnder> lkh, I had asked - before you dropped out - if you had tried doing a "static IP" connection as opposed to a DHCP connection...to see if that did anything...
[08:49] <xormor> how come my Ubuntu just crashed? 17.04.
[08:49] <xormor> the keyboard and the mouse did not answer.
[08:50] <lkh> ledeni: yes NM is set to reconnect automatically, I never changed that setting.
[08:51] <lkh> YankDownUnder: no, haven't tried that, I will now.
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> lkh, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:52] <lkh> YankDownUnder: ubuntu gnome 17.04
[08:53] <kova> MonkeyDust: ok, the main problem I have is that trying to install libc6-dev-amd64:i386 ends in:
[08:53] <kova> `dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-hy6mFr/11-libc6-dev-amd64_2.24-9ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:53] <kova>  trying to overwrite '/usr/include/bits', which is also in package libc6-dev-i386 2.24-9ubuntu2`
[08:53] <YankDownUnder> lkh, Let's see how you go with merely setting a static IP...if that fails, there's something else to try, hmm...
[08:54] <genii> Odd package location there, not in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:58] <genii> kova: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-hy6mFr/11-libc6-dev-amd64_2.24-9ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:59] <kova> genii sorry - I uninstalled libc6-dev-x32 which was listed as broken, and now the conflict is gone...
[09:00] <lkh_> YankDownUnder: back with stativ IP now. I'll see how it works ...
[09:01] <maxagaz> hi
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> lkh_, Patience...
[09:01] <maxagaz> I've just installed ubuntu with PXE, following the tutorial here : http://ruby-journal.com/install-ubuntu-with-pxe-via-osx/ But I now have Ubuntu 12.04 !
[09:02] <maxagaz> how to update PXE settings, or tell it to use an iso on my computer ?
[09:02] <bekks> maxagaz: Dont use precise then, which is 12.04.
[09:02] <bekks> !16.04 | maxagaz
[09:02] <faugusztin> maxagaz: because at first step you downloaded precise netboot ?
[09:02] <bekks> maxagaz: USe xenial instead.
[09:03] <lkh_> YankDownUnder: now - as I wait patiently - what else would you try if it doen't help?
[09:03] <faugusztin> maxagaz: note how url says precise http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[09:03] <faugusztin> maxagaz: same for xenial is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[09:04] <kova> genii now the error reappeared trying to install libc6-dev-amd64:i386 without libc6-dev-x32 installed
[09:04] <maxagaz> indeed, I didn't pay attention to "precise" in the url
[09:04] <kova> genii my bad, guess it was just a coincidence
[09:04] <maxagaz> bekks, faugusztin : thanks !
[09:05] <kova> genii I had to close synaptic to run the command, and running it results in:
[09:05] <kova> dpkg: error: cannot access archive '/tmp/apt-dpkg-install-hy6mFr/11-libc6-dev-amd64_2.24-9ubuntu2_i386.deb': No such file or directory
[09:06] <YankDownUnder> lkh_, There is a section of the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf => where one can comment out the bit about "dns=dnsmasq" => where NetworkManager "thinks" there is no DNS and therefore tries to reconnect - and also relatively mucks up DNS lookups...
[09:06] <kova> genii indeed, after the error occurred in synaptic the package was marked as `to be installed`
[09:07] <genii> kova: If the same file is in /var/cache/apt/archives just sudo dpkg -i it
[09:07] <kova> genii let me check
[09:08] <kova> genii yes there is an entry in there
[09:10] <kova> genii okay, running `sudo dpkg -i` on it results in a bunch of skipped overwrites of header files which are in libc6-dev-i386
[09:10] <kova> genii I'll get the output on a pastebin
[09:11] <kova> genii https://pastebin.com/UzmXtw6R
[09:19] <arya> hello
[09:20] <Guest79958> hello, I am looking for some help in what regards virtual box
[09:20] <Guest79958> can anybody help me
[09:21] <SwedeMike> !ask
[09:21] <genii> kova: In this case, your machine clearly seems to have multiarch since it can use :i386 on apt commands. So when given a choice between a package which has amd64 in the package name and one which has i386 in the packagename which want to use the same files, I'd opt here for the amd64:i386 option
[09:22] <sebsebseb> Guest79958: whats the issue?
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest79958  let's hear it, in one line
[09:22] <kova> genii so should I uninstall libc6-dev-i386?
[09:23] <Guest79958> seb thanks. I use oracle, and installed a windows 7 32bits downloaded from the windows page. but once I install a hard drive on it, windows won't open anymore.
[09:23] <genii> kova: That would seem the prudent option, yes. Then install the libc6-dev-amd64:i386 version instead
[09:23] <kova> genii btw sorry for not posting earlier: `uname -a` gives
[09:23] <kova> Linux setun-90 4.10.0-20-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 20 09:22:42 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:24] <sebsebseb> Guest79958: oh?
[09:25] <sebsebseb> Guest79958: what you mean wont open anymore?
[09:25] <Guest79958> it shows as if there was not "bootable system"
[09:26] <kova> genii what about libc6-dev:i386?
[09:26] <sebsebseb> xcreenshot
[09:26] <sebsebseb> !screenshot
[09:26] <sebsebseb> Guest79958: it may have not found iso
[09:28] <Guest79958> kk so I need to install a hard drive partition for it + an iso?
[09:28] <genii> kova: Sure
[09:29] <kova> genii what do you mean, uninstall it?
[09:30] <kova> genii trying to uninstall libc6-dev:i386 would result in libc6-dev-amd64:i386 being uninstalled too, so I guess it's a no go
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> Guest79958, The ISO becomes a virtual CD/DVD for installation. A virtual HDD is the destination. During the installation of Win7, it will partition the virtual HDD - after the installation is complete, the ISO can be removed from the VM and the virtual HDD will - SHOULD - be a bootable virtual HDD
[09:30] <kova> genii per Synaptic
[09:31] <sebsebseb> yes you need a virtual hard disk guest79958
[09:32] <genii> kova: I think some of the things you are trying to install are transitory which just point to the other thing. Like, libc6-dev-i386 would probably just point to libc6-dev:i386 and so on here
[09:32] <sebsebseb> load up the iso, install to a virtual hard disk that you make in the set up
[09:32] <Guest12887> I'm trying to install a kernel I compiled myself but I have an issue with mdadm when I boot this kernel. I used dracut to generate initramfs/initrd image, I also tried with installkernel shell script & mkinitramfs, same pb. I guess I'm doing something wrong
[09:33] <kova> genii I don't know, one didn't uninstall libc6-dev-amd64:i386 while the other would
[09:36] <Fentanyl> Hello! I can't get npm/nodejs to run. I want to install the sqlite3 module http://paste.ubuntu.com/24573215/
[09:36] <sebsebseb> Guest12887: put as dynamically expanding  hard disk or will take up loads of real hard disk space.  put like 70gb of virtual hard disk space or 100gb for win 7
[09:36] <genii> kova: When I compare them against each other with apt-cache policy it reports they are the exact same versions
[09:38] <kova> genii
[09:38] <fukcingtosh> fsd
[09:38] <kova> genii weird
[09:39] <genii> kova: Also the file list at packages.ubuntu.com has identical lists of files for libc6-dev 386 version and libc6-dev-386
[09:40] <genii> kova: Also same for libc6-dev amd64 version and package  libc6-dev-amd64
[09:41] <kova> genii well libc6-dev-i386 is listed as a dependency of gcc-6-multilib, while libc6-dev:i386 doesn't seem to be
[09:42] <kova> genii If I understood correctly, whatever ends in `:i386` runs on an i386 system, while whatever ends in `-i386` compiles for i386?
[09:43] <Guest79958> thank you sebseb
[09:44] <genii> kova: When you use syntax packagename:i386 this means you are asking specifically for a different platform than your machine would try to grab by the architecture which it is currently running. Whereas package names like packagename-386  are specific to 386 for instance
[09:45] <genii> kova: So you can do things like apt install packagename:arm64 on an amd64 machine for instance with -dev packages if you want to cross-compile for arm64 on an amd64 system
[09:47] <genii> kova: But if you're on a 386 machine, it won't show you packagenames ending in -amd64 for instance, since it's not a binary that your machine is capable of running
[09:47] <kova> genii ahh
[09:49] <kova> genii so wait, I assume that `libc6` on my system would be `libc6:amd64` on another architecture? Or `libc-amd64`?
[09:49] <genii> kova: Use: apt-cache policy libc6    ...to find out which architectures it installed libc6 for
[09:51] <kova> genii it doesn't say... guess it's native
[09:51] <lkh_> YankDownUnder: looks good so far. Do you know if this is a known problem? should I file a bug report?
[09:52] <genii> kova: If you just use: apt-cache policy libc6 you'll see a line like:         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages   <--- note the "amd64"
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> lkh_, I've been seeing this heaps with 17.04...and if merely setting a static IP resolves your issue, be happy with that. There are numerous bug reports about wifi networking and NetworkManager dropping out - along with dnsmasq...ergo, wait...a fix will be rolled out...
[09:53] <kova> genii ah, yes it's amd64 allright
[09:53] <LankanGuy> Hi, im try to mount a network driver to fstab and im getting error,
[09:53] <LankanGuy> "//192.168.1.254/Modem USB storage/" /mnt/modem cifs username=usr,xxx,domain=WORKGROUP 0 0
[09:53] <LankanGuy> is that because of the qutation?
[09:53] <genii> kova: If you don't give apt-cache the :architecture  it reports for the default architecture. So apt-cache policy libc6:i386   will specifically tell you if the 32bit version is also installed
[09:54] <kova> genii yep, got both `:i386` and `-i386` installed
[09:55] <lkh_> YankDownUnder: ok, I think I had this Problem on my machine since 16.04. But great - this workaround seems to be fine for now.
[09:55] <kova> genii now a matter of strategy: would `:i386` packages make `-i386` packages redundant?
[09:56] <YankDownUnder> lkh_, Peace, bro...keep watching it...and fingers crossed...keep updating your stuff, too...peace...
[09:56] <lkh_> YankDownUnder, ledeni: thank you guys, have a nice day!
[09:56] <genii> kova: That *should* be the idea, yes. Because when you install them the :architecture way it should put them in a directory specific to the architecture they belong to instead of in the main system directories
[09:57] <adrian_1908> hello, I have a question about linux containers. I read that ZFS is the preferred file system, but can a container even use a different filesystem on the host OS's disk? Wouldn't a new partition or something like that be required?
[09:57] <LankanGuy> yay i worked it out, need to use 040 insted of space :)
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> adrian_1908  i guess you better ask that in #lxcontainers
[09:58] <genii> kova: Like, /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/  for 64 bit and /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ for 32 bit
[09:58] <adrian_1908> MonkeyDust: Thanks, alas I've asked there several times before about different stuff, and never got any reaction. Seems full of idlers :o
[09:58] <kova> genii got it
[10:05] <kova> genii last question: is `x32` useful at all?
[10:07] <genii> kova: Some older packages put things in places like /usr/lib/lib32 or /usr/lib/lib64 , instead of the ones I listed above, the ones which have x32 or x64 are usually those kind
[10:08] <kova> genii wait, I thought x32 was a 32-bit ABI for amd64 systems
[10:10] <kova> genii and btw it seems the `:i386` files don't have a special `i386-linux-gnu` directory in `/usr/lib` (I have only `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu`)
[10:10] <genii> kova: packages.ubuntu.com shows me they install to the /usr/lib/lib32
[10:13] <kova> genii god I have neither of those dirs :s
[10:13] <kova> genii could it be because I'm on Lubuntu?
[10:13] <deldate> hi
[10:14] <genii> kova: If you want to find out what architectures your machine is configured to download packages for: apt-config dump | grep Archit
[10:14] <genii> The line with Architecture without an s at the end is the default one. It may list others under that
[10:15] <kova> genii this has me worried/confused:
[10:15] <kova> APT::Architecture "amd64";
[10:15] <kova> APT::Architectures "";
[10:15] <kova> APT::Architectures:: "amd64";
[10:15] <kova> APT::Architectures:: "i386";
[10:16] <genii> kova: So that indicates your system knows it can go grab i386 packages of something if no amd64 package exists for the thing you're trying to install
[10:17] <kova> genii so the `Architectures::` are fallbacks?
[10:17] <genii> kova: Yes. It will default to 64bit, if something isn't in the repos for 64bit for the packagename you asked for, it will try to find the 32bit version and install that
[10:18] <genii> kova: It's after 6am here now and been up all night. so I'll be leaving soon.
[10:18] <kova> genii right
[10:19] <kova> genii thanks a lot for the help, at least the conflicts are solved
[10:19] <genii> kova: Glad to assist
[10:20] <mikeplus64> hm are there any X compositors that let you scale individual windows (as if they were simply images -- not resize the normal way)?
[10:30] <lilpsychoshun> Yo
[10:32] <lilpsychoshun> Hi?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:46] <HollyWOOD> Salve
[10:46] <HollyWOOD> Ciao a tutti
[10:47] <HollyWOOD> !Lista
[10:47] <HollyWOOD> !List
[10:59] <skinux> How long will the actual installation of Ubuntu take on a 2.2Ghz quad core?
[11:00] <ikonia> skinux: cpu isn't really a factor
[11:00] <skinux> What is?
[11:00] <dinet> skinux: It depends more on your connection now
[11:00] <ikonia> a manual install on any host is 15 - 20 minutes
[11:00] <skinux> I'm using Cable internet
[11:00] <ikonia> as an base line
[11:01] <skinux> I've 52Mbps download
[11:02] <HollyWOOD> HI
[11:02] <ikonia> skinux: an average user install is 15-20 minutes end to end
[11:02] <skinux> Okay.
[11:02] <HollyWOOD> !List
[11:02] <ikonia> nope
[11:03] <hdai> hi every body
[11:04] <HollyWOOD> Lista
[11:04] <ikonia> HollyWOOD: no
[11:04] <HollyWOOD> Why?
[11:04] <ikonia> HollyWOOD: we don't host warez here
[11:30] <skinux> After it took like 10 minutes to see a grub menu, I got error malloc magic is broken
[11:32] <skinux> I don't know what malloc magic is, but it's weird for it to say it's broken. I don't imagine Canonical releasing it that way.
[11:35] <faugusztin> skinux: test your RAM modules, most likely some is faulty http://www.memtest.org/
[11:35] <skinux> Wonderful. Just bought this laptop and you're telling me RAM is bad?
[11:36] <faugusztin> well malloc is memory allocation, and in general this error message was usually resolved by replacing broken RAM
[11:36] <faugusztin> and well, there is a reason there is a term "DOA"
[11:36] <faugusztin> Dead On Arrival :)
[11:37] <faugusztin> just because something is just out of factory it doesn't mean it is not broken
[11:39] <acresearch> people, i need help with terminal encoding, i have ubuntu gnome and i want to select terminal encoding from preferences but i cannot. some encoding i can selec others i cannot select, why? how to fix this?
[11:50] <Fentanyl> I can't get npm/nodejs to run. I want to install the sqlite3 module http://paste.ubuntu.com/24573215/ What do I need to do?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> Fentanyl, says what to do in line 25 - 29
[11:54] <Fentanyl> cfhowlett I did enter the command though?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Fentanyl, with "sudo"
[11:54] <Fentanyl> Line 34: username@PC:~$ sudo chown -R $USER:$(id -gn $USER) /home/username/.config
[11:54] <acresearch> people, i need help with terminal encoding, i have ubuntu gnome and i want to select terminal encoding from preferences but i cannot. some encoding i can selec others i cannot select, why? how to fix this?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Fentanyl, ah!  missed it, osrry.
[12:17] <Umeaboy> Does anyone here have problems authenticating in Thunderbird if you add a new Gmail account?
[12:18] <Umeaboy> I can't seem to get the Next button to react.
[12:18] <Umeaboy> Not even the More options button work.
[12:18] <cfhowlett> lots of recent complaints about that on /r/ubuntu, Umeaboy. I think the advice was to apt full-upgrade before setting up accounts.
[12:19] <oerheks> Umeaboy, you might need to login via web, to give access to the client
[12:19] <acresearch> hello people, how can i enable arabic charachters in the terminal?
[12:27] <Umeaboy> cfhowlett: It still makes no change.
[12:27] <Umeaboy> gnome-calendar was the only update.
[12:28] <Umeaboy> oerheks: I have successfully done that already.
[12:28] <oerheks> Umeaboy, oke
[12:29] <Plushfish> Hey
[12:29] <Plushfish> Ubuntu GNOME doesn't get full 5 years LTS support, no?
[12:29] <Plushfish> Only 3?
[12:29] <oerheks> Plushfish, 16.04 does
[12:29] <oerheks> .. and 14.04
[12:30] <oerheks> !lts
[12:30] <Umeaboy> acresearch: LC_all=ar if I'm not misstaken.
[12:30] <Umeaboy> man locale
[12:30] <acresearch> Umeaboy: no, did not work, what does this command do and how to reverse it?
[12:31] <Umeaboy> ReaD THE MANUAL FOR LOCALE.
[12:31] <Umeaboy> man locale
[12:32] <DJones> Plushfish: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS only has a 3 year lifespan
[12:32] <DJones> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME "Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS is supported for 3 years, until April 2019. "
[12:32] <Doow> acresearch: looks like the default encoding is to use utf8 (which should contain arabic) however the actual font might not have those characters. it might be possible to find something under menu->profile settings->custom font
[12:33] <Plushfish> DJones: That's okay for me
[12:34] <adrian_1908> acresearch: If you pick a font that supports arabic gylphs, I imagine it would work (not sure about right-to-left behaviour though). A font with wide language support is "Noto" by Google.
[12:35] <acresearch> adrian_1908: hmmm
[12:35] <acresearch> interesting let me try it
[12:35] <adrian_1908> acresearch: the apt package is called `fonts-noto` if it's not installed already.
[12:36] <acresearch> adrian_1908: thanks, after i change it, do i need to restart the computer?
[12:36] <adrian_1908> I wouldn't think so, no.
[12:36] <ViciousLooRoll> apt upgrade is hanging at 99% on my server.
[12:36] <ViciousLooRoll> What is the safest way to fix this / exit the process without screwing anything up?
[12:37] <Kyoku> wait for 100%
[12:37] <adrian_1908> :D
[12:38] <ViciousLooRoll> It's been 10 minutes.
[12:38] <Kyoku> login with another terminal and look at top etc.
[12:40] <acresearch> adrian_1908: i tried but it does not work, i have noto on
[12:40] <acresearch> adrian_1908: the font did not change though, it is exactly the same
[12:40] <acresearch> even in englush
[12:41] <acresearch> adrian_1908: i figured out how to change the font, noto not working so trying different ones
[12:44] <adrian_1908> acresearch: hmm, ok. Noto is said to have support for arabic scripts, but I only ever used western scripts myself, so I can't speak from experience. Good luck! Also consider asking in #gnome if they have an idea.
[12:44] <acresearch> adrian_1908: ok i found this font family (kacst) which changes the arabic fonts well, but the letters are still seperated and reversed, what else can i change in the terminal?
[12:44] <ViciousLooRoll> Kyoku: https://image.ibb.co/nfunkk/2017_05_14_134300_1366x768_scrot.png
[12:45] <Kyoku> not much going on, it seems
[12:46] <ViciousLooRoll> yeah, its basically brand new. it seems to say there are 0 apps to update now though
[12:46] <ViciousLooRoll> so is it safe to just ctrl+c on the apt upgrade?
[12:46] <Kyoku> try it
[12:47] <adrian_1908> ViciousLooRoll: I would think so, I doubt it'll trash anything. I recommend you follow it by another round of the same commands.
[12:47] <Kyoku> run apt update on new terminal
[12:48] <Kyoku> in general server is pretty hard to break, sometimes needs a good kick
[12:48] <ViciousLooRoll> Yup. It's all good now. Thanks guys.
[12:48] <adrian_1908> "phew" :p
[12:49] <Kyoku> when my servers do things like that i reboot them for payback
[12:50] <sliddis> when doing cp -pr, when does cp set permissions? When all files are copied, or after each single file?
[12:51] <Kyoku> as each one is copied
[12:53] <sliddis> Kyoku: ok but it seems the root of the dir i am copying is not getting the correct permissions until the copy is done
[13:00] <Kyoku> sounds sensible to me
[13:02] <cyberef> anyone have any idea what could be wrong if the kernel module doesn't load? I have added it in /etc/modules and removed it from the blacklist
[13:02] <Kyoku> have you checked kern.log ?
[13:03] <cyberef> hmm will check that
[13:03] <cyberef> it loads fine if I do it manually with modprobe
[13:05] <sliddis> Kyoku: how is that sensible? :P
[13:06] <Kyoku> i think it's a safety catch myself, i personally wouldn't want to my dir messed with during a recursive copy
[13:06] <Kyoku> so i think the devs took my personal desire into account when making it work that way, nice of them
[13:07] <cyberef> Kyoku, nothing weird in kern.log
[13:07] <Kyoku> that's weird
[13:07] <Kyoku> kernel log is usually very good at giving clues
[13:07] <cyberef> I did update the initramfs as well.. just to be on the safe side
[13:12] <de-facto> Guys, I have to install Mathematica which comes with a mathematica.sh installer. Can i somehow make a mathematica.deb out of this prior to installing it on my system? any known tricks to grab the written output of a .sh installer and stuffing it into a .deb?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> de-facto  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:18]  * dan hi
[13:25] <acresearch> is there a way to make the terminal print text right-to-left or left-to-right?
[13:26] <hiru> I have a weird issue with my ubuntu installation.. I installed ubuntu in uefi mode on my SSD but now I can't access my bios anymore and clearing CMOS doesn't help.. what is happening?
[13:26] <hfp> Hi, I have done more investigation regarding my Ubuntu 17.04 system that hangs while backing up. It didn't generate bad superblocks in a while now but it still has drive related issues (only when I use deja-dup backup, only on 17.04). I have made an askubuntu post if you're curious: https://askubuntu.com/questions/914977/deja-dup-crashes-the-system-on-ubuntu-17-04. I'm at a total loss as to what's happening.
[13:26] <hfp> I suspect a kernel issue since my SSD is good but I don't know enough to confirm or reject this hypothesis.
[13:29] <cyberef> so as a temp hack I just added modprobe modulehere in rc.local..
[13:30] <dreamcat4> hfp: you can run the same backup task on the cmdline with 'duplicity', then get a syscall trace of whats going on with another tool...
[13:30] <aNDYMoDKe> hmmm..
[13:31] <hfp> dreamcat4: Interesting, where can I read more on how to do that?
[13:31] <dreamcat4> 'strace duplicite ... <your backup args>'
[13:31] <dreamcat4> man strace, man duplicity
[13:31] <hfp> Thanks
[13:31] <dreamcat4> for examply hfp, try 'strace ls -l'
[13:31] <dreamcat4> and see what happens there
[13:32] <hfp> wow, that's verbose, not sure how to interpret that
[13:32] <dreamcat4> *typo that should be 'strace duplicity [args] ...'
[13:32] <aNDYMoDKe> 10/10
[13:32] <dreamcat4> hfp: you can search the output for certain strings, e.g. pipe it to '| grep -i error'
[13:33] <dreamcat4> strace ls -l 2>&1 | grep -i error
[13:33] <dreamcat4> or 'panic' / whatever you think might be worth focussing on
[13:40] <maxagaz> I've just installed Lubuntu, network works fine for a while and now impossible to get an ip via cable or wifi (although the networks are listed)
[13:40] <maxagaz> what could be wrong ?
[13:40] <maxagaz> other computer can connect to the network
[13:42] <Delvien> anyone know how to rebind buttons? I have some buttons below my digitizer on an x230t thinkpad, I would like to bind one as the CTRL button
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !keybinding | Delvien
[13:46] <ArchaicLord> Hi all
[13:46] <Delvien> cfhowlett: you shouldnt just bot spam someone wrong answers :)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Delvien, excuse me?  you asked how to bind your key.  I sent the keybindig factoid.  fell free to ignore if incorrect
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Delvien  ddg to the rescue ... is this useful https://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices
[13:47] <ArchaicLord> My server won't start becuase of samba.. all it says its Failed to start LSB: Samba SMB?SIFS damemon (smbd).
[13:47] <ArchaicLord> I tried to restart, start and stop it
[13:47] <Delvien> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[13:48] <skinux> I ran a complete system test, everything passed, including memory. I managed once to get to Ubuntu menu and chose install and then got malloc magic failed again.
[13:48] <Delvien> cfhowlett: i dont think you understood the question, so if you dont know the answer, best to not lead people astray
[13:48] <Delvien> its not helpful to anyone
[13:56]  * fx- !! URGENCY !!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N26Qc1KAUU
[13:57] <skinux> Well, since my memory has tested fine, I'm guessing malloc failed is happening because my ISO got corrupted somehow.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> skinux, md5sum on the .iso will remove the guesswork
[13:57] <skinux> I'm not using Linux
[13:58] <skinux> I'm trying to dual-boot with Windows 10
[13:58] <Zim> Zim
[13:58] <cfhowlett> skinux, check your channel.  this is ubuntu support.  ask ##windows
[13:58] <skinux> the problem isn't with Windows, it's with Ubuntu
[13:59] <cfhowlett> you JUST said don't use linux ...
[13:59] <skinux> No, I said I'm using Windows right now, but my problem occurs trying to install LINUX
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | skinux check your ubuntu .iso
[14:00] <nicole> my local network is really slow only 100kb/s or less from this laptop that is using a 100mbps pmcia card, I think the drivers are not updated, how to install that non free stuff?
[14:00] <kemiiie> what does remember password util logout mean? can I see my password ?
[14:00] <kemiiie> why cant I make it forget the password?
[14:05] <skinux> How do I find the official checksum?
[14:06] <pavlos> ArchaicLord: you can test your smb.conf with testparm, maybe there are some errors and samba wont start
[14:07] <cfhowlett> skinux, as per the link "Ubuntu distributes the MD5 hashes in a file called MD5SUMS near the bottom of the download page for your release http://releases.ubuntu.com. "
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> kemiiie  you mean in your browser?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> kemiiie  you mean in firefox?
[14:11] <skinux> Okay, the checksum is correct.
[14:11] <skinux> So why the hell is malloc magic failing? My memory has tested to be fine
[14:11] <nicole> hi
[14:12] <pavlos> nicode, what do you mean, 'install non free stuff'?
[14:13] <nicole> hi pavlos
[14:13] <pavlos> nicode, look at software & updates, you can click on which repo you want
[14:14] <nicole> there was a driver for my network card that was in the non free repository
[14:15] <bcx> I'd like to pin an outdated package from ppa over more recent release, I edit /etc/apt/preferences.d/ppa-openjdk-8-jre to set Priority for * to 400 and 600 for my selected packages, miserly `apt policy openjdk-8-jre` does not show my numbers (500 for all), what could be wrong ?
[14:16] <pavlos> nicole, so go to software & updates, select the restricted and multiverse repos. Are you running 16.04?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> bcx  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Examples
[14:17] <bcx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24574618/
[14:18] <nicole> pavlos: I'll check
[14:19] <bcx> MonkeyDust: also checked https://gist.github.com/JPvRiel/8ae81e21ce6397a0502fedddca068507
[14:21] <sobersabre> hi. I have noticed on machines with small memory size there is no transparent huge pages enabled. what would be a good threshold to estimate when they should be enabled automatically?
[14:24] <Umeaboy> I see that I can authenticate to Gmail if I add my account to Evolution instead.
[14:24] <Umeaboy> So the problem is in the authentication process in Thunderbird.
[14:24] <Umeaboy> I'm no expert on how to solve it thou.
[14:25] <Umeaboy> Could it be about encryption?
[14:25] <sobersabre> Umeaboy: can you exlpain why are you doing this ?
[14:26] <Umeaboy> sobersabre: Well, authenticating thru Thunderbird isn't working.
[14:26] <Umeaboy> The Next button does not respond.
[14:26] <Umeaboy> Neither does the More options button.
[14:27] <nicole> pavlos: yes 16.04
[14:27] <Umeaboy> You know...... the window that asks you to type your Gmail password for Thunderbird to add the account.
[14:27] <Umeaboy> It works just fine and dandy in Evolution.
[14:27] <pavlos> nicole, after selecting repos, run software updater to update your system
[14:28] <nicole> pavlos: I think this has to do with the bios of the nic are you sure this is right
[14:29] <Umeaboy> Does Ubuntu have a terminal command to rebuild a package from source?
[14:29] <Umeaboy> I was thinking of trying that.
[14:29] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: det ar han, det ar du :d
[14:30] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Hej! Hur mår du? :)
[14:30] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: det ar trokig (boring)
[14:30] <pavlos> nicole, 'bios of the nic'? probably you mean linux-firmware where the drivers are kept. By doing update, it will update any drivers it needs
[14:31] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Samma här.
[14:31] <nicole> pavlos: ok
[14:32] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: yeah sucks really thata
[14:35] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Would you please consider reproducing an authentication issue with Thunderbird for me?
[14:35] <Umeaboy> To see if you get the same result.
[14:35] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: oh what kind of issue?
[14:35] <Umeaboy> Well, you know the window that pops up when you're adding a Gmail account to THunderbird?
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: sort of
[14:36] <Umeaboy> The one that asks you to type in the password so that Thunderbird can add the account once you've been authenticated.
[14:36] <Umeaboy> THAT'S the window I'm having trouble with, but only in Thunderbird.
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: uhmm mine doens't work properly actualy with ok its not a gmail but another type of address but still
[14:37] <Umeaboy> Ubuntu 17.04.
[14:37] <Menzador> Umeaboy: if it helps, it's better to use OAuth2, and I'm not sure Thunderbird implemens that.
[14:37] <Umeaboy> amd64.
[14:37] <sebsebseb> Umeaboy: can recieve emails, but not send
[14:41] <Umeaboy> Menzador: As I have to add the gmail account first to change to 0Auth2 I can't do that.
[14:42] <Umeaboy> It is set to 0Auth2 apparently.
[14:42] <Umeaboy> At least when I check what's written in the manual settings.
[14:44] <Umeaboy> Changing from 0auth2 to Password in the manual settings does the trick.
[14:44] <Maplicant> Hello. I have a problem with my sound on my Dell XPS 15 9550. `aplay -l` says it can't find any sound cards, but with `lspci` I can see that my soundcard is there. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[14:45] <nicole> is 4.4 the latest version of the ubuntu kernel? I thought it was 2.6! or something liek that it's only been a year since I stopped using ubuntu
[14:45] <Umeaboy> Sending and recieving works just fine.
[14:45] <Umeaboy> sebsebseb: Have you tried that?
[14:46] <Lucretia> I thought that if a (cron job) script returns an error code >0, then cron is supposed to send an email saying it failed. It's not. Or am I misunderstanding something?
[14:46] <Umeaboy> Changing the manual settings for your account from 0auth2 into Password.
[14:48] <EriC^^> Lucretia: do you have postfix installed?
[14:48] <Lucretia> yup
[14:48] <Lucretia> have email configured
[14:48] <Lucretia> EriC^^:
[14:48] <EriC^^> Lucretia: try typing "mail" as that user of the cron
[14:49] <Lucretia> now, mail isn't installed, is that why?
[14:49] <pavlos> Umeaboy: make this setting OFF ... https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps
[14:49] <Lucretia> thought it would use sendmail
[14:49] <EriC^^> Lucretia: try /var/spool/mail/user
[14:50] <Lucretia> what do you mean "try /var/spool/mail/user?"
[14:50] <EriC^^> Lucretia: cat /var/spool/mail/<user>
[14:50] <Lucretia> EriC^^: again, mail works
[14:50] <EriC^^> no cron mail's there?
[14:50] <Lucretia> no
[14:50] <Lucretia> nothing in mail.log
[14:50] <Lucretia> the cron log shows the script running
[14:51] <EriC^^> ok, i had to install postfix and that allowed cron to send mail about jobs
[14:51] <Lucretia> it's literally a script that "exit 1"
[14:51] <vans163> hello. I am having an issue with autosuspending of the USB port which the live environment USB is plugged into. It results of a total messup of the file system.  I found autosuspend_delay_ms kernel param, but when using Live USB I do not have luxury to reboot. Any suggestions?
[14:51] <Lucretia> is there a difference between the standard (vixie) cron and others?
[14:52] <Lucretia> EriC^^: this is ubu 17.04
[15:01] <stdin> http://magizian.bshellz.net
[15:01] <maxagaz> when I run dhclient, I just get this error : segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:01] <maxagaz> on a new install of Lubuntu
[15:01] <cfhowlett> stdin, spam is rude and unwelcome in this channel. stop please
[15:02] <stdin> not spam joe.
[15:02] <maxagaz> it worked for 2 or 3 sessions before I got this error, now no network at all
[15:02] <Nilesh____> Hi
[15:02] <stdin> maybe you should see a thing before shitting at it kiddo. [0;-)
[15:03] <xormor> Jewbuntu
[15:03] <Gring0> lol
[15:03] <cfhowlett> profanity is likewise unwelcome.  perhaps you might review the guidelines, stdin
[15:04] <stdin> Dude, this is a pirate den... also, it's a good place for linux advice.
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow__> This is NOT a pirate ANYTHING
[15:06] <stdin> linux is piracy.
[15:06] <stdin> Don't worry about it.
[15:06] <stdin> Almost all tech is pirated rework.
[15:06] <Gring0> >gnu linux
[15:07] <stdin> so cfhowlett, are you gonna be the guy that gives them (clean turbuntu) or 216mb/s vwlan overlay for linux?
[15:08] <stdin> or anything really? like I did?
[15:08] <Menzador> stdin: Excuse me?
[15:08] <stdin> or,.. just play play pig with these pigglets..?
[15:08] <xormor> he is drunk or stoned.
[15:09] <xormor> stdin, GNU is not Unix, it is not pirated. The Linux kernel is not pirated, either.
[15:09] <stdin> give some linux/buntu advice or ask for some.. quit being an irc nazi ?  ..hehe..
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow__> xormor, Just set his nick to /ignore
[15:09] <xormor> stdin, it is new code written by hackers all over the world. it is not copy-paste, except perhaps for some BSD legacy code. for certain the code in GNU and Linux do not come from Windows code, even though some Microsoft people might be writing it.
[15:09] <stdin> wow.. your somewhere between sdf and anapnea folk right now..
[15:14] <Lucretia> oh, so you have "echo" an error message to stderr to get it to mail something. exit 1 isn't enough
[15:14] <ayman> hi
[15:14] <ayman> Drone
[15:15] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support in this channel Guest51763.  ask your questions.
[15:19] <hfp> dreamcat4: This is what I got, not sure what to make of it: I ran the command `strace duplicity full /home/hfp file:///tmp/dup 2>&1 | grep -iE "fail|error"` and this is the output before it died https://i.imgur.com/onkRTEq.jpg. The right pane is a tail of /var/log/syslog
[15:28] <hiru> hello! I installed ubuntu in UEFI mode and I lost access to my BIOS. How can I revert these changes?
[15:28] <PipeItToDevNull> hiru, That isnt how it works. What is your issu
[15:28] <blunderful> Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this graphics issue? https://ibb.co/erjv5k Mobility Radeon HD 4670 with radeon drivers and Mint 18.
[15:28] <PipeItToDevNull> hiru, UEFI is your BIOS. Can you boot to Ubuntu
[15:29] <hiru> I installed Ubuntu in UEFI mode but now when I turn my pc on I only have a black screen and the pc directly boots into Ubuntu
[15:30] <PipeItToDevNull> hiru, Hit your F2 or whatever key to get access, it may just have a short timeout (1s)
[15:30] <hiru> right now I have access to Ubuntu and I tried converting my installation into Legacy mode but I still have that black screen
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow__> hiru, left shift on boot
[15:31] <hiru> my motherboard button designed to access BIOS is DEL but If I start pressing it my pc starts a reboot cycle that stops only when I stop pressing the DEL button
[15:31] <hiru> I will try with the left shift method tho
[15:31] <PipeItToDevNull> hiru, Are you holding "Del"
[15:32] <hiru> not holding, I press it multiple times
[15:33] <hiru> I used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_Legacy_mode to convert my installation in Legacy mode hoping for changes but it didn't work
[15:34] <EriC^^> hiru: ubuntu shouldn't affect your ability to access the bios
[15:34] <hiru> yeah, that's right but this is what's happening right now
[15:35] <EriC^^> it's impossible
[15:35] <EriC^^> hiru: which pc is it?
[15:35] <Zeljko> Trf package not found.
[15:35] <Zeljko> What to do ?
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow__> EriC^^, https://askubuntu.com/questions/668049/grub-menu-at-boot-time-holding-shift-not-working
[15:35] <hiru> it's a desktop I built myself, the motherboard is a GIGABYTE Z170N WiFi Rev1
[15:36] <LjL> it is not impossible, if the UEFI is stupid enough to only offer access to Setup by first entering the UEFI boot menu, and that menu causes a crash if the EFI GPT partition is gone
[15:36] <EriC^^> Jack_Sparrow__: is that for me or hiru ?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow__> hiru
[15:36] <Zeljko> Trf package not found.
[15:36] <Zeljko> how to install it ?
[15:37] <EriC^^> LjL: are you making science fiction stories or you've ever seen this uefi?
[15:37] <hiru> here's a screenshot of my drive https://i.imgur.com/1ohRWkD.png
[15:37] <LjL> EriC^^, i just happen to know what the workflow of UEFI is,
[15:38] <ioria> Zeljko, trf , as the tcl runtime library or what ?
[15:38] <Zeljko> ioria im using rss-synd.tcl
[15:38] <LjL> "it's impossible" is what technicians typically say when they mean "i have no idea why that would happen".
[15:38] <Zeljko> and i got that error
[15:38] <Zeljko> RSS Error: Unable to decompress "http://www.kurir.rs/rss/najnovije-vesti/": Trf package not found.
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow__> hiru, thats not a good layou on that dribe
[15:38] <ioria> !info runtime library. | Zeljko
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow__> drive
[15:38] <EriC^^> LjL: um, the uefi menu is in the nvram it hasn't to do with the hdd itself at all, my frien
[15:38] <ioria> sorry
[15:38] <EriC^^> *my friend
[15:38] <ioria> !info tcl-trf | Zeljko
[15:39] <Zeljko> ioria
[15:39] <Zeljko> how to install it ?
[15:39] <ioria> Zeljko, sudo apt install  tcl-trf
[15:39] <LjL> hiru, the first website that comes up when i search your motherboard is https://www.computing.net/answers/hardware/cant-enter-motherboard-bios-gigabyte/80816.html so that might be a coincidence but it might also be your issue.
[15:39] <Zeljko> done.
[15:40] <Zeljko> ioria: RSS Error: Unable to decompress "http://www.kurir.rs/rss/najnovije-vesti/": Trf package not found.
[15:40] <Zeljko> ....
[15:40] <LjL> hiru, the short version of that is "remove the CMOS battery for a good while and try again" (of course that will reset all the UEFI settings to factory)
[15:40] <ioria> Zeljko, or you need the -dev package ...  tcl-trf-dev
[15:41] <Zeljko> ioria
[15:41] <Zeljko> also got error
[15:41] <ioria> Zeljko,  are you trying this ? https://github.com/eggtcl/rss-synd
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow__> zwhat repo is that
[15:42] <Zeljko> ioria yes
[15:42] <hiru> ok I'l try with left shift, with esc, and clearing cmos removing my ram sticks this time. hoping for changes.. thanks for the suggestions. see you in 10-15 minutes
[15:42] <hosas> ioria: can I jump-upgrade from 14.04 to 17.04 or to any specified version, or do I have to go through 16.04?  If this is possible how do I go about it?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> hosas, you can do LTS to LTS
[15:42] <ioria> hosas, yes , that ^
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow__> !lts
[15:43] <hosas> cfhowlett: only LTS to LTS? ok
[15:43] <hosas> thanks
[15:43] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[15:44] <ioria> Zeljko,  tcllib is installed ?
[15:44] <hosas> ioria: thanks
[15:44] <ioria> hosas, no problem
[15:44] <Zeljko> ioria yes
[15:46] <hosas> cfhowlett: why does unity sometimes freezes when I minimize or close an app?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> hosas, never have and never will use unity.  ask the channel in general
[15:47] <xormor> is this a good idea? --> "sudo apt install nvidia-375/zesty"
[15:47] <hosas> cfhowlett: hahahaha okay
[15:47] <xormor> I have NVidia GeForce.
[15:48] <azimute> rtl8723bs ubuntu 17.04 ?
[15:48] <azimute> not work
[15:48] <xormor> my screen, mouse and keyboard lock up (freeze) under the current configuration.
[15:48] <n8w1ng> hey
[15:48] <azimute> help me
[15:49] <n8w1ng> do u guys know what to do about this pulseaudio error: module-detect is deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
[15:50] <n8w1ng> i cant get pulseaudio started...
[15:50] <ioria> Zeljko,  seems a broken pkg http://forum.egghelp.org/viewtopic.php?p=105819
[15:51] <ioria> Zeljko,  last update 6 years ago
[15:52] <xormor> hello. can you help me?
[15:53] <Guest96297> hola
[15:53] <immu> what happ xormor ?
[15:53] <Guest96297> que hacen?
[15:55] <Guest96297> yo estoy bien ¿y ustedes?
[15:56] <xormor> immu, I installed Ubuntu 17.04 because openSUSE did not work with my USB Internet modem (USB modem stick) and I wanted to get rid of Debian, so I installed Ubuntu 17.04 and the screen freezes (locks up) while using Firefox, especially YouTube - also the mouse and the keyboard are frozen.
[15:57] <Guest96297> ubuntu mate esta chido
[15:58] <hiru> I'm back
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow__> hey
[15:59] <hiru> Left Shift and Esc didn't work. Tried resetting my CMOS another time but still black screen on boot. Tried pressing DEL but the pc enters in a reboot cycle
[15:59] <marcos_> bueno
[15:59] <hiru> Ubuntu kidnapped my motherboard's bios :O
[16:01] <Perverso> hola, me pueden leer?
[16:01] <guglielmo> willy
[16:01] <guglielmo> ciao
[16:01] <pos> OK, I've got a fun one here: I'm upgrading/reinstalling a server from trusty to xenial and for some reason I was unable to open a LUKS volume (cryptsetup) using the keyfile I backed up.
[16:01] <immu> which graphics card you got?
[16:01] <Perverso> he?
[16:01] <immu> xormor, which graphics card you got?
[16:02] <xormor> immu, NVidia GeForce
[16:02] <Perverso> i have ubuntu mate and work verynice
[16:02] <pos> At first I was afraid that the LUKS header had gotten fragged, but it turns out that neither my xenial install nor the xenial boot media is able to open the LUKS volume using either keyfile or passphrase. but both the backed up/old trusty install and trusty boot media is able to open the volume using either method
[16:03] <immu> did you xormor try updating your drivers?
[16:03] <immu> did you upgrade your system? xormor ?
[16:03] <pos> just... what the f can cause this?
[16:03] <xormor> immu, I just updated them. I will try Firefox with YouTube again. Perhaps I should reboot first.
[16:06] <xormor> immu, oh yeah. cannot reboot since I am downloading "sysinfo" and Linux Mint.
[16:07] <Perverso> i don't undertend inglish
[16:07] <xormor> immu, perhaps I should leave my machine on for the night and go to sleep. it is 7PM here now. I took my evening meds a while back. They hinder my memory for the evening.
[16:07] <DarkPsydeLord> dont worry theres several support channels
[16:07] <DarkPsydeLord> Perverso, dejate de cosas claro que entiendes inglés
[16:07] <FoeHammered> Howdy. Can somebody here recommend me a desktop clock which can show two or more timezones?
[16:08] <Perverso> pero casi nada ok
[16:08] <DarkPsydeLord> the default one can show different places FoeHammered
[16:09] <FoeHammered> DarkPsydeLord, uh, let's assume for the sake of argument I'm not using stock Ubuntu but rather a stripped down variant, but wanted answers from a wider swath of folks, and thus don't have that clock installed. What would it be called?
[16:09] <irgendwer47111> hi, I have atrange problem, systemd does not resolve my local domain on a 17.04 notebook. desktop does.
[16:10] <DarkPsydeLord> FoeHammered, let us know then which one you have installed and what are you using or this is gonna fail
[16:10] <hiru> I don't know what to do with my pc @_@ I don't know if this is a ubuntu issue but after I installed it in UEFI mode I lost access to my BIOS. what should I do?
[16:11] <DarkPsydeLord> irgendwer47111, DNS problem?
[16:11] <irgendwer47111> DarkPsydeLord: yes
[16:11] <FoeHammered> Fair enough. Lubuntu, using lxde with tweaks whimsically as they become necessary or desirable; lemme check what the clock is...
[16:11] <irgendwer47111> DarkPsydeLord: systemd problem
[16:11] <Perverso> tengo ubuntu mate 16.10 y actualise a 17.04 deteceta mi inalambrica y se conecta perdecto pero resulta que cuando intento usar el internet no me procesa los paquetes o no me da internet es raro puesto que si se conecta no puedo actualizar o navegar porque no se lo que pasa
[16:12] <DarkPsydeLord> irgendwer47111, i resolved my issue with connectivity in 17.04 adding googles resolve 8.8.8.8 to my resolv.conf archive then upgrade the system and reboot
[16:12] <Perverso> podrian ayudarme
[16:12] <irgendwer47111> DarkPsydeLord: this is not working for me
[16:12] <DarkPsydeLord> Perverso, come to #ubuntu-es
[16:12] <boriseto> Why does this happen: snap "ubuntu-make" requires classic or confinement override ?
[16:13] <Perverso> si pero tambien actualizar los repositorios no me deja
[16:13] <ducasse> !es | Perverso
[16:13] <pavlos> !es | Perverso
[16:13] <Perverso> hay algun error en la coneccion
[16:13] <immu> how many oses are you downloading?
[16:13] <immu> xormor, ???
[16:14] <Perverso> ok
[16:14] <nicole> hello I'd like to know what is the way to add non-free and contrib to my sources.list
[16:14] <DarkPsydeLord> Perverso puedes entrar por favor al canal #ubuntu-es la gente se molesta aqui si hablas algún otro idioma
[16:14] <nicole> I can't I get ign a lot and can't locate linux-firmware-nonfree
[16:14] <AntonMc> I still never got a reply from #ubuntu-mirrors
[16:15] <irgendwer47111> Ubuntu did a big misktake with systemd
[16:15] <Umeaboy> nicole: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[16:15] <nicole> Umeaboy: would you do me a big favor I don't have a browser in this pc
[16:15] <aliendude5300> Hi, I can't get Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 to boot on my system from a live USB with both of my monitors attached
[16:15] <Umeaboy> nicole, If I can...... What do you need?
[16:15] <aliendude5300> Anyone else running Dual 4Ks?
[16:15] <FoeHammered> DarkPsydeLord, looks like this is destined for failure, since my google fu isn't sufficient to the task of figuring out what clock stock Lubuntu uses.
[16:16] <presiden-nkrj> hello, is there a way to disable/uninstall the Software Updater (the GUI Program) completely?
[16:16] <aliendude5300> I've got two LG 27ud68-p monitors plugged into a 980 Ti card. When the GUI should come up, both monitors go totally black and the system hangs.
[16:16] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: In the Software Updates settings.
[16:17] <Umeaboy> nicole: How may I help you?
[16:17] <nicole> Umeaboy: ok went to that site selected usa and version but can't find non-free stuff
[16:17] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: I've been fiddling with it, but there's no option for disabling it
[16:17] <Umeaboy> nicole: It's called Restricted if I'm not misstaken.
[16:18] <perry1> Hello!
[16:18] <presiden-nkrj> my machine always crashing (or slowing down) when Software Updater launching itself
[16:18] <nicole> Umeaboy: I know I have to append non-free and contrib to the end of the url
[16:18] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Which Ubuntu version?
[16:18] <presiden-nkrj> Ubuntu 16.04
[16:18] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Can you do a screenshot of that window?
[16:19] <nicole> Umeaboy: so append that to the restricted part of my sources.list?
[16:19] <ducasse> nicole: which ubuntu version is this?
[16:19] <nicole> ducasse: 16.04
[16:19] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: the Software Updater? yes
[16:19] <ducasse> nicole: there is no linux-firmware-nonfree for 16.04
[16:20] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Have you reported this issue?
[16:20] <nicole> ducasse: ok my problem is that my nic is very slow and I think it needs its firmware
[16:20] <Umeaboy> ubuntu-bug update-manager
[16:20] <ducasse> nicole: what kind of nic?
[16:20] <nicole> ducasse: it's a fa510 100mbps
[16:20] <nicole> netgea
[16:21] <Umeaboy> Yiiiikes! Netgear................. Not the most friendly company.....
[16:21] <Umeaboy> At least when it comes to open source code.
[16:21] <nicole> Umeaboy: my network is running in kb/s not even mb
[16:21] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: this one, http://i.imgur.com/jI8LaZ7.png
[16:21] <nicole> probably at 1mbit
[16:21] <FoeHammered> I guess I'll go find other means. Sorry to bother you, DarkPsydeLord.
[16:21] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj,  those are your unattended-upgrades, an app which you can remove if you update and upgrade your sources daily
[16:22] <AntonMc> How can I remove an ubuntu cdimage mirror?
[16:22] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: You COULD update thru the terminal instead. :)
[16:22] <Umeaboy> AntonMc: Check the Software Update settings.
[16:22] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: yes, hence I want to disable the GUI
[16:24] <presiden-nkrj> BluesKaj: Actually, I don't think it's the Software Updater fault, it's just that I have crappy computer that whenever the disk led blinking, everything will slow down.
[16:24] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Run unity-control-center and change the tab to disable the check for Updates.
[16:24] <presiden-nkrj> and this Software Updater a main culprit that shows up unintended
[16:25] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj, when it happens again check in your system monitor for thje processes using up your cpu
[16:26] <BluesKaj> unattended presiden-nkrj , they are definitely intended
[16:28]  * Umeaboy agrees
[16:29] <perry1> What's the gnome shortcut for terminal only again?
[16:30] <DarkPsydeLord> FoeHammered, oh sorry im at work and sometimes i cant answer fast
[16:33] <pokmo> hi
[16:33] <perry1> Hi!
[16:33] <pokmo> i'm trying to change my password as someone has just changed it without me noticing.
[16:33] <perry1> uhhhh
[16:33] <perry1> so ask them what they changed it to?
[16:33] <pokmo> i've tried sudo passwd and given it a new password. but if i were to use it as my 'current password' after 'passwd', i get an error
[16:34] <hosas> ioria:  how do you paste-bin a screen-shot ?
[16:34] <pokmo> does sudo passwd not effect the change
[16:34] <perry1> Oh
[16:34] <perry1> What error?
[16:34] <perry1> no sudo passwd is right
[16:34] <pokmo> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[16:34] <perry1> waaa
[16:34] <pokmo> i can ssh into the machine
[16:34] <perry1> uh
[16:34] <perry1> Well, if you
[16:34] <perry1> 're sshing in than what password do you use?
[16:34] <perry1> Unless you use keys?
[16:34] <pokmo> yes i am
[16:34] <perry1> hmm
[16:34] <perry1> do sudo passwd again
[16:35] <pokmo> i have
[16:35] <perry1> and copy paste all output and put it here
[16:35] <pokmo> hold on
[16:35] <perry1> K
[16:35] <pokmo> if i run 'sudo passwd' do i end up changing the password for 'root' rather?
[16:35] <pokmo> i'm trying to change the password for my user account
[16:36] <perry1> oh hold on
[16:36] <pokmo> i think it does
[16:36] <pokmo> are there ways to change the password for the user account without giving it a current password
[16:36] <perry1> yes
[16:36] <perry1> do sudo passwd <your username>
[16:36] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: I'm not using unity (using Gnome currently), but running unity-control-center just launch this window http://i.imgur.com/HnjrCec.png
[16:37] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: and I don't see any Update related setting there
[16:37] <pokmo> perry1, oh!!
[16:37] <pokmo> that did it
[16:37] <perry1> Yay!
[16:38] <perry1> Yea, next time do man <command you are having trouble with>
[16:38] <pokmo> perry1, how come this isn't an answer? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25779/logged-on-via-ssh-key-can-i-reset-my-account-password
[16:38] <xco611> good dumps shop https://perlbot.pl/p/97axi9 https://pastebin.com/ND0pX6W5
[16:38] <xco611> good dumps shop https://perlbot.pl/p/97axi9 https://pastebin.com/ND0pX6W5
[16:38] <pokmo> all the answers seem to suggest some physical reset
[16:38] <perry1> uhh
[16:38] <perry1> yea
[16:38] <perry1> that's weird
[16:38] <perry1> Oh! Did the person who had your password use it recently?
[16:38] <pokmo> perry1, he has sudo rights. he can log in using keys
[16:38] <pokmo> that's like my scenario
[16:38] <perry1> Hmmm
[16:39] <pokmo> perry1, in what way?
[16:39] <presiden-nkrj> BluesKaj: well, I guess the intend is good, but when I'm in the middle of writing something, and then the software updater shows up, then my machine crash and restarted, it's... :'(
[16:39] <perry1> Well, I guess if it's fixed we shouldn't be complaing xD
[16:39] <perry1> I'm a bit confused though why that worked
[16:39] <pokmo> perry1, the fix you suggested?
[16:40] <perry1> Yea
[16:40] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: software-properties-gtk is the proper window to open. Sorry.
[16:40] <pokmo> i wonder why it wasn't suggested in that post
[16:40] <pokmo> maybe you should post your fix
[16:40] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj,   then remove unattended upgrades, you can cover it's use by updating an upgrading with apt in the console every day
[16:40] <perry1> Uhh
[16:41] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Click the Updates tab
[16:41] <perry1> I'm really not sure why that happened, so I prob won't
[16:41] <pokmo> perhaps passwd didn't take the LOGIN argument in 2011?
[16:41] <Umeaboy> "When there are updates".......
[16:41] <xco611> https://pastebin.com/ND0pX6W5 => good dumps shops, GET A LAID!
[16:41] <Umeaboy> And for security updates as well.
[16:42] <pokmo> perry1, according to the man page: "while the superuser may change the password for any account."
[16:42] <pokmo> so your fix seems to be quite legit
[16:42] <mguy> ufw isn't enable by default on 17.04 desktop?
[16:42] <Umeaboy> I guess all dropdown menus should be changed.
[16:42] <perry1> Yea, so running sudo should put you in root which is the superuser.......... wait did you put in a password when you did sudo?
[16:42] <akik> pokmo: "sudo passwd" changes root's password
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow__> ufw no spoken like a true Windows User..  Just kidding
[16:43] <bonsaitree> Is there a fix for the network-manager dropping the connection almost 20 times a day, after the 17.04 upgrade? Is there a fix for the screen-tearing problem under 17.04? I've searched the internet, but was not able to find any fixes. Thanks in advance.
[16:43] <perry1> akik sudo passwd <username> changes username's password
[16:43] <pokmo> akik, yeah
[16:43] <perry1> see the man page
[16:43] <mguy> Jack_Sparrow__: eh?
[16:43] <akik> perry1: thanks, i know
[16:43] <perry1> np
[16:43] <pokmo> perry1, no
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow__> mguy, UFW is not enabled by default
[16:43] <perry1> MFW I realize WeeChat has tab completion
[16:44] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Hopefully that'll solve it.
[16:44] <perry1> Can I make weechat play a bell when my name is mentioned?
[16:45] <perry1> perry1: test
[16:45] <perry1> perry1: test
[16:45] <perry1> ):
[16:45] <Umeaboy> perry1: Have you installed weechat-plugins?
[16:45] <pokmo> perry1, thanks
[16:45] <perry1> No Umeaboy, should I?
[16:46] <Umeaboy> perry1: Check.
[16:46] <perry1> NVM it's installed
[16:46] <perry1> lol
[16:46] <Umeaboy> OK.
[16:46] <Umeaboy> I guess you have to enable that in a submenu then.
[16:46] <perry1> Any ideas where? I know next to nothing about weechat
[16:47] <Umeaboy> perry1: Check the help for weechat.
[16:47] <Umeaboy> Or the website.
[16:47] <perry1> Will do
[16:48] <zhuyue123>  卡啊
[16:48] <Umeaboy> !en zhuyue123
[16:48] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: this is my current setting, http://i.imgur.com/m5idDHj.png and sorry, I didn't get what you mean by "When there are updates" part.
[16:48] <perry1> /help
[16:48] <perry1> oop
[16:48] <perry1> that failed
[16:49] <perry1> test
[16:49] <perry1> ohhh
[16:49] <perry1> fancy
[16:49] <pokmo> i have a problem with ssh. if i log into the LAN via VPN, i can't ssh into this machine. but if i ssh into another machine within the LAN first, i can then ssh into it
[16:49] <pokmo> does anyone know why?
[16:49] <pokmo> i can ping the IP fine
[16:49] <pokmo> i get just Connection refused almost instantly
[16:49] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: When there are security updates. Change that.
[16:49] <perry1> test
[16:49] <perry1> FANCY
[16:49] <presiden-nkrj> BluesKaj: I didn't quite get it, do you mean to remove unattended upgrade, one way to do it is do apt update && apt upgrade daily?
[16:49] <Umeaboy> Because now it's set to alert you instantly.
[16:49] <perry1> uhhh idk pokmo, is port 22 open?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:49] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj, ^
[16:50] <perry1> brb
[16:50] <perry1> back
[16:50] <Umeaboy> pokmo: Sounds like the firewall is stoping you from logging in.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj,  to be precise, the application name is unattended-upgrades
[16:51] <perry1> test
[16:51] <perry1> O
[16:51] <aliendude5300> I can't get my Ubuntu 17 live USB to boot with both of my monitors plugged in, anyone have experience with this?
[16:51] <perry1> Hello!
[16:51]  * perry1 is fancy
[16:52] <perry1> ^Cc12^Cbhello ^Cb^Cc04^C_everybody^C_^Cc!
[16:52] <cubby_> pokmo have you tried port forwarding in the router
[16:52] <perry1> aww
[16:52] <perry1> that failed
[16:52] <mguy> pokmo: which machine can you connect to? I agree the firewall is probably only allowing ssh to certain IP's
[16:52] <presiden-nkrj> Umeaboy: ah, but the options is: "Display immediately", "Download automatically", and "Download and install automatically". Should I chose the second option then?
[16:53] <perry1> why isn't /help working in weechat....
[16:53] <A1> dunno
[16:53] <perry1> mmmmk
[16:53] <BluesKaj> presiden-nkrj,  don't choose anything, leave them unchecked, apt upgrae and update will take care of that
[16:54] <perry1> brb, hopping to #weechat
[16:54] <Umeaboy> presiden-nkrj: Yes.
[16:54] <Umeaboy> BluesKaj: He doesn't want to be notified.
[16:55] <pavlos> there may be a process, update-notifer
[16:55] <bonsaitree> Is there a fix for the network-manager dropping the connection almost 20 times a day, after the 17.04 upgrade? Is there a fix for the screen-tearing problem under 17.04? I've searched the internet, but was not able to find any fixes. Thanks in advance.
[16:55] <presiden-nkrj> well, to be precise, I don't want to have a sudden slow down when doing something important
[16:55] <JackSparrow_> bonsaitree, atheros wifi ?
[16:56] <A1> does anyone know if 17.04 is any good?
[16:56] <A1> graphicly that is
[16:56] <Umeaboy> perry1: https://weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_quickstart.en.html
[16:56] <bonsaitree> JackSparrow_, Intel PRO Wireless 6200-N, iwlwifi module
[16:56] <Umeaboy> A1: Try it and see. :)
[16:56] <ChaiTRex> test
[16:56] <A1> lol
[16:56] <Umeaboy> That's the best way to know.
[16:56] <MiguelFuller> can someone answer my question on the forum https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361258
[16:56] <A1> for some reason, I really like 14.04
[16:56] <mguy> A1: I get lots of glitches with it
[16:56] <Umeaboy> What happens to one person with one computer might not happen to you on your computer.
[16:57] <mguy> A1: especially with 2 monitors, running a video on one the other will blink etc
[16:57] <pavlos> presiden-nkrj: you may have an update-notifier checked in the startup applications
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !dpkg | presiden-nkrj
[16:57] <A1> ah
[16:57] <Umeaboy> The only problem I have with 17.04 is that the screen resolution is wacky.
[16:57] <A1> can't you adjust that in settings
[16:57] <mguy> Umeaboy: HOW WACKY IS IT
[16:59] <mguy> A1: there are settings for resolution and scaling
[16:59] <Umeaboy> mguy: Well, if I decide to change to 1920x1080 like I've always used on previous Ubuntu versions it looks more to be 800x600.
[16:59] <Umeaboy> So everything is enlarged.
[16:59] <mguy> Umeaboy: Very odd
[16:59] <Umeaboy> And my maximum resolution is above 4K.
[16:59] <Umeaboy> And that's set as standard, but also doesn't feel anyway near that.
[17:00] <mguy> Lots of quirks to be had with 4k still. shame
[17:00] <A1> yep
[17:01] <Umeaboy> The previous Ubuntu versions doesn't have these kind of problems.
[17:01] <A1> I think that anything over 4k is unreasonable
[17:01] <Umeaboy> So Wayland is a bit off.
[17:01] <mguy> A1: 4k/5k are nice are large screens (22-27")
[17:02] <pavlos> Umeaboy: maybe you dont have the correct video driver ... sudo lshw -c display
[17:03] <A1> mguy i still think that if you have a screen over 4k it's for bragging rights
[17:03] <mguy> Or you like really easy to read nicely rendered text
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> need to play my animus
[17:04] <A1> if the screen is 4 inches away from your face :P
[17:05] <Umeaboy> pavlos: https://pastebin.ca/3812852
[17:05] <presiden-nkrj> BluesKaj: hm... I think I'll be going with your suggestion, by doing apt update & upgrade manually via terminal. But is there a way to uninstall this "Software Updater" GUI program completely? I try uninstall unattended-upgrades package but this program still exist.
[17:05] <Umeaboy> And NO, I absolutely refuse to use anything proprietary.
[17:06] <Umeaboy> nouveau has been working fine until 17.04 was installed.
[17:06] <Umeaboy> If that's the driver that's causing this issue that is.
[17:07] <presiden-nkrj> pavlos: ah, also I didn't see any update-notifier in the list of "Startup Application". It's just bluetooth, ssh-gnome, and welcome something.
[17:09] <xxx1> s
[17:09] <A1> what does removing "splash quiet" from line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT do in file /etc/default/grub
[17:10] <A1> at startup?
[17:10] <JackSparrow_> A1 lets you watch as it boots
[17:10] <A1> watch what?
[17:10] <A1> verbose output ?
[17:10] <JackSparrow_> The boot process, usually looking for errors,
[17:11] <nolsen> Um, how to diagnose why some of my snap apps show a black screen? Example: https://cloud.nolsen.xyz/s/vBw7LAgByemYVVG
[17:11] <A1> for debugging?
[17:11] <pavlos> presiden-nkrj: I think the Software Updater calls update-manager. Maybe you could remove update-manager
[17:12] <presiden-nkrj> pavlos: oh, okay.
[17:13] <Fentanyl> I have an encrypted Home-Folder. When I delete my Account, will it disappear forever?
[17:13] <presiden-nkrj> pavlos: it also removes ubuntu-gnome-desktop*, is this a bad thing?
[17:14] <presiden-nkrj> unless that's just the, uh, what's it called, meta package or something.
[17:15] <pavlos> presiden-nkrj: I think it is a meta package but hope someone else can confirm this
[17:15] <JackSparrow_> Thats a bad thing
[17:15] <OneM_Industries> So. I have a couple old CDs that should have stuff on them, but for some reason, they are showing up as empty when I try to mount them. Any suggestions?
[17:15] <JackSparrow_> In mint I have updater icon in bottom right of screen, just called update manager, try running that
[17:16] <presiden-nkrj> this is the only package that being removed: ubuntu-gnome-desktop* ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk* update-manager* update-notifier*
[17:16] <Verevet_dark> hello
[17:17] <presiden-nkrj> JackSparrow_: uh, I wanna uninstall update-manager actually, not run it
[17:17] <JackSparrow_> Run the updater and set it to Dont break .. that is actually an option in my updater
[17:17] <Verevet_dark> I'm testing the chat with one since (sorry for my english)
[17:17] <Verevet_dark> I'm looking were very well. Good Bye all
[17:18] <pavlos> Umeaboy: I assume you use the GTX850 video with nouveau ... that should work with hires
[17:19] <TomBaxter> ?
[17:19] <JackSparrow_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/767577/how-can-i-remove-gnome-desktop-environment-without-messing-unity-de-ubuntu-16
[17:19] <Umeaboy> pavlos: Yeah, it does. In previous Ubuntu versions.
[17:20] <ArchaicLord> HI, Was installing Ubuntu server 16.04 onto a usb drive.... then got exiting on error base-installer/failed-install
[17:21] <A1> does mint run on debian architecture?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> ArchaicLord: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one?
[17:21] <ArchaicLord> cool thanks
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> A1: mint is not supported here mate
[17:22] <A1> is there a mint channel?
[17:22] <A1> pm freenode
[17:22] <A1> on*
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> !mint | A1
[17:22] <A1> thanks
[17:23] <presiden-nkrj> anyway, thanks for the helps JackSparrow_, Umeaboy, pavlos, and BluesKaj :)
[17:23] <bonsaitree> Is there a fix for the network-manager dropping the connection almost 20 times a day, after the 17.04 upgrade? Is there a fix for the screen-tearing problem under 17.04? I've searched the internet, but was not able to find any fixes. Thanks in advance.
[17:23] <presiden-nkrj> I'll test if it's break something or not.
[17:23] <presiden-nkrj> thanks all o/ bye
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: wifi chipset please?
[17:23] <MiguelFuller> bonsaitree, I had same problem with ubuntu 8 on a p3 laptop when I got 10.04 it worked
[17:25] <bonsaitree> lotuspsychje, Intel Advanced 6200-N
[17:25] <ArchaicLord> ubuntu-server people seem to  all be asleep
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: have you tested other ubuntu versions on same wifi/ graphics card?
[17:26] <gogeta> where always asleep
[17:26] <bonsaitree> lotuspsychje, It used to work flawlessly under 16.10, but after the 17.04 update i am getting like 20-30 drops a day, which is *very* annoying.
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | gogeta
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: you might wanna consider a !bug or test another kenel version?
[17:27] <adamwst> !bug
[17:28] <adamwst> i've found a bug: ubuntu is available in Microsoft Store
[17:28] <adamwst> what can i do?
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: is your system up to date to latest also?
[17:28] <gogeta> adamwst, lol
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !joke | adamwst
[17:28] <MiguelFuller> can someone help me fix my nic adapter speed
[17:28] <bonsaitree> lotuspsychje, Yes, my system is up-to-date, i will test with previous kernel versions to see if it will be okay that way.
[17:29] <adamwst> ^ not a right way of using pipe
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: yes, that waould be a good test start
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: uname -a ?
[17:30] <bonsaitree> lotuspsychje, 4.10.0-20-generic
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: ok, looks up to date
[17:31] <gogeta> bonsaitree, what you got wifi droping?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: try previous kernel, to see what happens
[17:33] <bonsaitree> gogeta, I get sudden drops of the internet connection, while browsing for an example. But what i did notice now is that when it drops i am not logged out from IRC, so that may indicate that only some type of traffic is getting blocked or idk.
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> bonsaitree: while you play with wifi, do a tail -f /var/log/syslog to see errors live
[17:33] <Umeaboy> bonsaitree: Maybe the signal is not strong.
[17:34] <gogeta> bonsaitree, try this and restarting echo options iwlwifi bt_coex_active=0 swcrypto=1 11n_disable=8 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[17:34] <bonsaitree> Umeaboy:Nope, because other Windows machines on the network are doing pretty well.
[17:34] <Umeaboy> OK.
[17:34] <gogeta> bonsaitree, seems it is a ussie with 4.10
[17:35] <Umeaboy> I'm using iwlwifi myself, but I don't get that proble,
[17:35] <Umeaboy> problem
[17:35] <bonsaitree> Umeaboy, Which kernel version, distro version?
[17:35] <Fentanyl> I have an encrypted Home-Folder. When I delete my Account, will it disappear forever?
[17:36] <Umeaboy> bonsaitree: 4.10.0-20-generic
[17:36] <Umeaboy> 17.04.
[17:36] <gogeta> bonsaitree, should stop the random drops
[17:37] <bonsaitree> gogeta:Okay, i will try that first, if that does not work i will try with different kernels.
[17:38] <blunderful> :/ Ubuntu live CD's installer makes the screen go wonky.
[17:38] <pos> Anyone feel like a l33t ZFS-user? can I pick your brain/ask you a few questions?
[17:39] <ducasse> pos: you better just ask, or try #zfsonlinux if it's really complex
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: wich livedc, on wich graphics card?
[17:40] <pos> ducasse, thanks
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> *livecd
[17:40] <blunderful> both 16.04 and 17.04, on R730 (HD 4670)
[17:41] <ducasse> blunderful: didn't we sort this yesterday?
[17:41] <bonsaitree> gogeta, Wow, after the .conf file edit that you suggested, i got 50 Mbit/s download speed on speedtest, something that i was not able to get for a long time.
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> !amd | blunderful
[17:41] <blunderful> yeah, but the nomodeset really slows down the computer :/
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: define 'wonky' please?
[17:41] <blunderful> trying to find a way around it
[17:42] <blunderful> 4.4 kernel didn't work either
[17:42] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: https://ibb.co/erjv5k
[17:42] <bonsaitree> gogeta, What is this option: bt_coex_active=0 for?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: thats linux mint?
[17:43] <blunderful> yes, but same thing with ubuntu installer
[17:44] <ducasse> blunderful: please use the ubuntu livecd to get support here, so we don't waste time on mint
[17:44] <blunderful> ducasse: currently using ubuntu live cd
[17:45] <blunderful> the photo was from yesterday, but if you want, I can take another of the current ubuntu screen?
[17:45] <ducasse> blunderful: ok. not necessary.
[17:47] <ducasse> blunderful: i'm curious if it would work on 14.04 with fglrx...
[17:47] <ducasse> blunderful: does fglrx even support 4670?
[17:47] <RonWhoCares> I found the flock of Canadian Geese Grazing.  I just filmed them for 17 minutes.  I am going to make a 15 minute video with this.
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: not here please
[17:48] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: - this was background information
[17:48] <RonWhoCares> The file is saying 'Invalid Media Type".   Is there a away to repair the file
[17:48] <blunderful> ducasse: I think so, but I'd rather not go that route. I had another computer with HD 3450 with fglrx and I didn't like it too much. Would rather stick with open source drivers
[17:50] <ducasse> blunderful: just a suggestion, i don't really have any other ideas atm
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: can you try this as a test? https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu/
[17:50] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: ok, trying...
[17:52] <Makon> during dist-upgrade, i seemed to have mistakenly pressed something and i received W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish
[17:52] <Makon> what should i do now?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Makon: what happens when you sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[17:54] <lucifermorningst> Hello
[17:55] <Makon> lotuspsychje, it simply shows 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:55] <Makon> no error pops up
[17:55] <Makon> but how can i be sure nothing went wrong
[17:55] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Same appearance.
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: did you reboot? another test might be installing amdgpu as test?
[17:56] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Yes, rebooted. I could try that, but I don't thinnk amdgpu supports my card.
[17:56] <bonsaitree> gogeta, Wow, after the .conf file edit that you suggested, i got 50 Mbit/s download speed on speedtest, something that i was not able to get for a long time.
[17:57] <bonsaitree> What is this option: bt_coex_active=0 for, located in the iwlwifi.conf file?
[17:57] <blunderful> blunderful: Will the one from oibaf's ppa do?
[17:57] <lucifermorningst> hey guys i updated my ubuntu kernel 4.8.0-xxx bt i'm unable to login 'kernel panic' now im using my previous kernel any suggestions ?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> lucifermorningst: wich ubuntu version?
[17:58] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Will the one from oibaf's ppa do?
[17:58] <lucifermorningst> current 4.8.0-49-generic update to 51 then kernel panic
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: you can test it on your system, tryout a few things before you !bug
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: if non-lts and lts you cant get it straight on different driver versions, i would consider a !bug
[17:59] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Okay
[18:02] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Oh also, it's an iMac, so that probably complicates things a bit.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: alot of users got ubuntu working nicely on macs, depending wich mac of course
[18:04] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-3.06-21-inch-aluminum-late-2009-specs.html
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: as a test i would try 14.04 also as ducasse suggested, just to see what it does
[18:04] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: with fglrx?
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: with whatever works
[18:06] <Bashing-om> blunderful: I come in here late, but on a 4x ATI card there is no FGLRX support anymore .
[18:06] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: Ah ok. Also, I had Ubuntu 16.04 working before, but then I installed Mac OS, then reinstalled Ubuntu, and now it doesn't work. So I'm guess I'm trying to figure out what changed...
[18:06] <blunderful> Bashing-om: ah thanks.
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> blunderful: did you test 16.04.2 iso?
[18:07] <blunderful> lotuspsychje: yes, both times
[18:07] <blunderful> I did install refind between the installs
[18:07] <blunderful> would that make a difference?
[18:09] <bonsaitree> What is this?
[18:10] <Threads> bonsaitree its called a netsplit
[18:11] <bonsaitree> Threads, What is its purpose?
[18:11] <blunderful> two IRC servers lose connection to each other
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> !netsplit
[18:11] <bonsaitree> blunderful, There is a good wiki article on that, will read there :), thanks
[18:12] <Threads> they would see the samething as us give it 10minutes or more and they will all come back
[18:14] <MiguelFuller> does anybody knows why firefox or opera are not running on my ubuntu 16.04 on a pentium3
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: the technology isnt supported anymore i think, you getting an error?
[18:16] <bonsaitree> Nope, connection still dropping after the iwlwifi.conf edit someone suggested, although link speed has increased, don't know why.
[18:17] <MiguelFuller> lotuspsychje, like a need a curl or something
[18:17] <Seveas> MiguelFuller: no, a new computer. Preferably one from this milennium.
[18:18] <MiguelFuller> Seveas, it's from 2001
[18:18] <MiguelFuller> like my car haha
[18:18] <Seveas> oh well, this decade then...
[18:18] <MiguelFuller> I think I need libcurl
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: you could install 16.04.2 lubuntu and install links2 as textbrowser
[18:19] <MiguelFuller> that'll be cool
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | MiguelFuller
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: just keep in mind its for basic browsing
[18:20] <MiguelFuller> lotuspsychje, I want to run blender on this p3
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: bad idea
[18:21] <Seveas> MiguelFuller: you must like waiting :)
[18:21] <MiguelFuller> wow so what can I do I love this laptop
[18:21] <MiguelFuller> I want to use it for something
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: i would suggest lubuntu and basic usage
[18:22] <Seveas> target practice
[18:22] <MiguelFuller> I used lubuntu but is not supported
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: howso?
[18:22] <MiguelFuller> so I switch to ubuntu
[18:22] <MiguelFuller> the thing crashed I think I can't remember
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> MiguelFuller: that doesnt make sense, lubuntu is more lightweight
[18:23] <MiguelFuller> I just checked I already have libcurl3
[18:24] <MiguelFuller> so I'm done gonna put a new xubuntu I don't like lubuntu
[18:24] <MiguelFuller> any other option
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | MiguelFuller pick one
[18:24] <saulus> hi, my linux box often freezes (not even the numlock can be switched). Win runs stable. Any ideas how to debug?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> saulus: system specs? ubuntu version? what happens when?
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow__> MiguelFuller, They have a decent  Mate  version
[18:30]  * commco is testing
[18:30] <MiguelFuller> Jack_Sparrow__, I used to run mate on a phenom ii looks nice
[18:31] <saulus> lotuspsychje: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40GHz, Ubuntu 17.04, happened during browsing. So nothing special
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow__> The same dev that made Mint Mate is helping Ubuntu Mate
[18:35] <perryf> Hey (Used to be perry1)
[18:35] <perryf> Uh, what's a good ubuntu music visualizer?
[18:35] <perryf> I've seen one a lot on r/UnixPorn
[18:40] <ikonia> win 7
[18:41] <perryf> cava!
[18:41] <perryf> duh!
[18:44] <Vuurdraak_> hi everybody, I just symlinked my home/.cache folder to my HD and now rhythmbox doesnt want to run anymore, what should be the right user permissions for the .cache folder ?
[18:45] <mateus> HI GUYS
[18:45] <immu> hi
[18:46] <Gring0> h
[18:46] <Vuurdraak_> i cant find it if i search for it online
[18:49] <juliano> hello
[18:49] <juliano> algum br?
[18:49] <tonyt> anyone know of a linux gaming channel?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> tonyt: #gamingonlinux
[18:50] <Vuurdraak_> anybody who can check the file permisions for the .cache folder in the home dir ?
[18:51] <tonyt> k thanks
[18:53] <Seveas> Vuurdraak_: 0700
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Vuurdraak_: " drwx------ 14 sysop sysop 4096 May 14 11:56 .cache " .
[18:54] <luciferthedevil> ll | grep "cache"
[18:54] <Vuurdraak_> ty
[18:56] <moh> hi
[18:56] <Gring0> h
[19:05] <rahim> hello
[19:06] <Zen101> HI guys... Installed quake launcher via synaptic. Is there anyway to install and use bots with this version ??
[19:06] <leftyfb> Zen101: that's not the sort of help you'll get here
[19:06] <Vuurdraak_> weird i dont get it what has been altered, as gstreamer keeps trowing permission errors o.O thought it might have been the .cache dir permissions i guess something else is now broken -looks confused-
[19:07] <Zen101> Ok thanks for the head up...
[19:10] <Vuurdraak_> libdc1394 error: Failed to create juju: opendir: Permission denied
[19:24] <Vuurdraak_> okay sorry problem fixed, it was apparmor :') blocking rhythmbox from using the brand new .cache dir
[19:28] <IntelCore> ello.  what does ms store give us for wsl ??
[19:29] <ducasse> !ubuwin | IntelCore
[19:30] <IntelCore> no one is available in the other chan
[19:30] <ducasse> IntelCore: then wait, it's offtopic here
[19:31] <Vuurdraak_> try discus it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <Vuurdraak_> i didnt even know that ms was gona do that new to me :)
[19:32] <Vuurdraak_> anyway laters all thanks for all who tried to help out o/
[19:36] <IntelCore> if i upgrades to new lts, I dont need wsl in windows
[19:38] <IntelCore> i would to open an icon to run vm of ubunyu, mebe
[19:39] <aliendude5300> Is there a Linux live image with the Nvidia drivers installed? I can't boot to a desktop on 17.04 live on my system
[19:39] <aliendude5300> I wanted to try to see if the Nvidia driver would help
[19:40] <hfp> Hi, I have a 180GB volume with full disk encryption. I'd like to clone it to a 128GB disk. There is far less than 100GB actually used on the source disk. WHat's the best way to clone the disk? Will Clonezilla do it or is the encryption an issue?
[19:40] <IntelCore> is it dual-booted, alien?
[19:40] <aliendude5300> No
[19:40] <IntelCore> get a terminal ?
[19:41] <ducasse> aliendude5300: have you tried nomodeset?
[19:41] <kk6mrp> Hello! Somehow my keyring got messed up on ubuntu, using the Gnome desktop, and I cannot even log in to my default account in it through gnome now. I think maybe something happened to my .Xauthority file, but have no clue how to fix it. I created a different account to use for now, but the problem persisists. It began after I installed anbox, not sure what direction to head now.
[19:41] <aliendude5300> The graphics are totally non-functional after the system comes up. I think it's because I'm driving two monitors
[19:41] <aliendude5300> I have a 980 Ti card and two LG 27" monitors plugged into it
[19:42] <IntelCore> it is the similar with dual bootin
[19:42] <aliendude5300> I haven't tried this nomodeset option
[19:42] <ducasse> !nomodeset | aliendude5300
[19:43] <IntelCore> cas tha drivers are different
[19:44] <anddam> hello
[19:44] <IntelCore> :)
[19:44] <kk6mrp> Anyone have any ideas?
[19:44] <anddam> does ubuntu have wpa_supplicant systemd unit templates?
[19:47] <IntelCore> ubuntu ?  SysV  ?
[19:48] <anddam> where did you get the sysv reference from?
[19:48] <IntelCore> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/systemd.service.5.html
[19:49] <anddam> IntelCore: and?
[19:50] <IntelCore> systemd looks for a SysV init script by        the same name (with the .service suffix removed) and dynamically        creates a service unit from that script. This is useful for        compatibility with SysV.
[19:50] <anddam> ok, but I'm not using systemV init
[19:50] <IntelCore> dynamic creates unit template if none there
[19:50] <akik_> IntelCore: does it work so that if i have /etc/init.d/service, i can enable it with systemctl enable service.service ?
[19:51] <Taose> Got a bit of a question. I think my printer has been deprecated ._.;;
[19:52] <IntelCore> oldie?
[19:52] <Taose> I have rebooted my HP F2280 (heh) and tried to get it to scan something but Ubuntu 16.10 isn't recognizing it
[19:53] <IntelCore> scan drivers vs printing?
[19:53] <Taose> I've seen a few things around on the Ubuntu drivers list that it appears to have been...well effectively deprecated. HP aren't supplying any help for it either
[19:53] <Taose> Tried both
[19:53] <Taose> I have hplip installed
[19:53] <Taose> But no joy there either
[19:53] <Taose> (I've also made sure it's connected and it is showing in the usb list)
[19:54] <Taose> It used to be plug-n-play up to about 16.04
[19:54] <IntelCore> near as possible, same printer family, one driver up beyond it, or, next new model that replaced that printer?
[19:55] <Taose> So you want me to try and install a driver for the next one up for it?
[19:55] <Faisal12> Hello
[19:55] <IntelCore> tried generic?
[19:55] <Faisal12> i need help
[19:55] <Taose> I have all the generic stuff installed, but no joy
[19:56] <Faisal12> why ?
[19:56] <PCatinean> Hey guys!
[19:56] <Taose> Also whaddya need Faisal12?
[19:56] <lvn_mate> Hi Faisal. What do you need help with?
[19:56] <PCatinean> My android phone can connect to a wireless network but my ubuntu 16.04 laptop cannot
[19:56] <Faisal12> i need to learn aome tools for sql databease
[19:56] <PCatinean> Host says it might have to do with automatic ip assignation
[19:57] <PCatinean> Can anyone help me debug/fix this?
[19:57] <Faisal12> i need to learn aome tools for sql databease
[19:57] <IntelCore> 14.8.0	177.2 MB	Aug 22, 2014
[19:57] <Faisal12> i need to learn some tools for sql databease
[19:57] <IntelCore> this is on support
[19:58] <Taose> Apparently IntelCore, Hplip recommend just installing hplip, but I already have it
[19:58] <anddam> how do I rfkill to unblock wifi at boot? I see /etc/init/rfkill-store has a reference to /lib/systemd/systemd-rfkill used with 'save <device>' syntax
[19:58] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, does it give any errors ?
[19:58] <lvn_mate> Faisal: Ahh. I'm afraid I don't have the knowledge to help with that. But I'm sure someone here does.
[19:59] <IntelCore> there no printer driver for it apt-get?
[19:59] <PCatinean> LeoTheNarwhal not sure i got syslog on now
[19:59] <anddam> but unblocking wifi and trying to manually call 'systemd-rfkill save rfkill1' complains that systemd-rfkill doesn't accept arguments (unlike how it's used in rfkill-store system script)
[19:59] <Faisal12> how i can make channel and make ouner ?
[19:59] <PCatinean> It connects to the network but nothing more happebs
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow__> Faisal12, Please stop repeating..  and not even a good place tp ask
[19:59] <Taose> Nothing specific just hplip so far as I can tell
[19:59] <Taose> (damn this room is busy)
[19:59] <PCatinean> I have wlp3s0
[19:59] <lvn_mate> Taose: This is an old thread but I thought downloading the drivers it mentions might help? https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-905287.html
[19:59] <ducasse> Faisal12: ask in #freenode
[19:59] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, well you could check if you have got an IP adres from your DHCP server
[20:00] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, can you verify that you have obtained an IP adres ?
[20:00] <Taose> Just tells me to download hplip which I already have
[20:00] <IntelCore> it's a 2014 driver on HP support. may be Windows only
[20:00] <PCatinean> LeoTheNarwhal i have 192.168.88.210 on the interface I mentioned earlier
[20:01] <Taose> Which tells me "deinstall ok config-files"
[20:01] <PCatinean> That's about it, working on Android though
[20:01] <Taose> (which after some research means hplip has been deprecated somehow)
[20:01] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, do you know the address of your default gateway too?, try to ping your default gateway and see if it works
[20:01] <IntelCore> unless linus installed at purchase,,,
[20:01] <PCatinean> I don't know it, tried with 1 in the end did not work
[20:02] <Taose> Nah, windows 8 was installed at purchase, never have I formatted a machine so hard and so fast before...
[20:02] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, well lets skip that and try to ping 8.8.8.8 (its a google server just for testing)
[20:03] <IntelCore> i dunno why if hp would supply sets drivers for both or have a linux page
[20:03] <Taose> that's what hplip is apparently
[20:03] <PCatinean> LeoTheNarwhal nop, everything I ping has dest hist unreachable
[20:03] <Taose> https://www.support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-deskjet-f2200-all-in-one-printer-series/3390944/model/3390946
[20:03] <PCatinean> Including presumed gateways
[20:03] <PCatinean> I got those from.route -n
[20:04] <lvn_mate> I thought hplip was just an interface to use the printer, rather than using their own osftware (which doesn't work on Linux anyway)
[20:04] <qwerkus> hi, i could use some help with apache password protection. I protected a <directory> in the virtualhost conf file of apache2, and it works well if I access the site over its domain name. Though accessing the site directly over its ip seems to circumvent the password protection. How do I fix this ?
[20:04] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, can you give a list with all network routes ?
[20:04] <Taose> apparently not lvn_mate
[20:05] <PCatinean> Ki da hard to type by phone
[20:05] <PCatinean> 192.168.88.1
[20:05] <IntelCore> Taose - OS is foor windows
[20:05] <PCatinean> Is the only gatewat, otherwise just 0.0?0.0
[20:06] <IntelCore> select full details
[20:06] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, does it list the right interface too, for those routes
[20:06] <IntelCore> they dont has one for linuxes
[20:06] <PCatinean> wlp3s0
[20:07] <PCatinean> And some strange destinations
[20:07] <PCatinean> Different interfaces apparently
[20:07] <PCatinean> Why does it work on my phone?
[20:07] <Taose> That's true intelcore, that's why they have HP Linux Imaging and Printing (hplip)
[20:07] <PCatinean> Instantly
[20:08] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, yeah i guess its some configuration error, or your router blocking uknown mac address or something like that
[20:08] <PCatinean> Okay...
[20:08] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, so you could check the config in your router
[20:08] <PCatinean> How?
[20:09] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, well can others (friends or visitor or so) use your internet?
[20:09] <Taose> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_f2200_series.html
[20:09] <Taose> This says that in theory it's still supported (partially)
[20:09] <IntelCore> I do see a 2210 driver hplip
[20:10] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, PCatinean or do they encouter problems too ?
[20:11] <PCatinean> Firing.up tablet now
[20:11] <PCatinean> I just got here
[20:13] <PCatinean> Tablet not working either
[20:13] <PCatinean> As in it connects to the network but no internet
[20:15] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, wel it could be mac filtering in the router or it could be the router (or some other device) handing out wrong ip adresses
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow__> Did you try 8.8.8.8 is ipv4
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow__> and 8.8.4.4 for alt
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow__> set ipv6 to ignore etc
[20:16] <LeoTheNarwhal> PCatinean, you could try to log into the router and verify if mac filtering or something like that is enabled by browsing to the gateway ip on your android phone
[20:17] <IntelCore> read far as I know.. hplip re-install, and that 2210 test it
[20:17] <erto> can anyone help me to detect CPU temp (with lm-sensors or something else) with ubuntu 16.04, mobo msi b350m mortar (Super I/O r6637) and CPU ryzen 5 1600? sensors-detect doesn't detect anything
[20:17] <Taose> Yeah I'm coming to the same conclusion intel after doing a check
[20:18] <Taose> Looks like certain things were removed by a program being uninstalled somewhere
[20:18] <IntelCore> Taose - win printer
[20:19] <Taose> Though the last time anything was removed was during an update
[20:19] <IntelCore> means it no post script or advanced stuff on the printer
[20:19] <IntelCore> all from driver and os
[20:20] <IntelCore> poss update broke old driver
[20:20] <Taose> ...geh
[20:20] <Taose> Printer detected
[20:20] <Taose> But No scanners available
[20:21] <Taose> I just installed hplip in its entirety XD
[20:21] <Taose> I have plenty of room
[20:21] <IntelCore> find software to use to scan with
[20:21] <Taose> I use the inbuilt one usually
[20:21] <Taose> (as in the one that comes with ubuntu)
[20:21] <IntelCore> gimps?
[20:21] <Taose> no, simple scan
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow__> Simple Scan here too
[20:22] <anddam> I'm able to manually connect with wpa_supplicant, I added the stanza into /etc/network/interfaces and I can connect via ifup, yet I have rfkill softblocking the wlan at boot and it's not storing the status like it should be from what I understand from systemd-rfkill man page
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow__> 3.20
[20:22] <IntelCore> detected, but it may run tha scan?
[20:22] <Taose> ...
[20:23] <Taose> Problem occurred while installing software "libperl5.22 5.22.2-3"
[20:25] <Taose> Which appears to be the main issue at the moment
[20:25] <IntelCore> changelog - it tried overwrite fail. debian is not ubuntu
[20:25] <Taose> >.<;
[20:26] <IntelCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1659487
[20:26] <Taose> Yeah that's the one
[20:26] <Taose> Goddam fu
[20:27] <IntelCore> wull fix?
[20:27] <Taose> Gotta go for now will be back in an hour. This is kinda an urgent thing for me >.<;
[20:28] <IntelCore> good lux
[20:28] <anddam> I see the stored values in /var/lib/systemd/rfkill changing when I unblock wifi, and that's where the storage is supposed to be
[20:28] <anddam> but something in rfkill cycle is switching the unblocked status, that it shuold save on shutdown, to blocked
[20:30] <IntelCore> Taose ? 2200-2224 try
[20:33] <IntelCore>  Do you use/need iwlwifi for your card?  If not, perhaps blacklisting it would do - though if it's active, I'd guess you may need it.
[20:33] <IntelCore> the reply said ..
[20:35] <IntelCore>  using any power-saving scripts such as powerdown or laptop-mode-tools
[20:35] <IntelCore> that can reset your stuff
[20:37] <IntelCore> look here.   systool -m iwlwifi -av issued as root
[20:40] <IntelCore> Andam  any good?
[20:40] <webphil> hey all. For some reason, my ubuntu box is failing to boot. It's been working fine for months, if not years - so I'm not sure what's up with it. It just says select a boot device - and when I select the right one, it asks me to select boot device again (it doesnt even reboot before re-asking). I can get into the ubuntu OS via my mobo's UEFI interface & telling it to execute the EFI shell
[20:41] <webphil> anybody got any ideas of where to start debugging this?
[20:41] <Jack_Sparrow__> Is it dual win box?
[20:41] <MiguelFuller> what is a good way to install xubuntu on a pen drive from windows that is clean
[20:42] <webphil> Jack_Sparrow__: No, just ubuntu
[20:43] <IntelCore> it doesnt see
[20:43] <Jordan_U> webphil: Boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB and pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr". My guess is that somehow the UEFI boot entry for Ubuntu was lost. If so, you can either restore it or configure things so that the drive can be booted without a UEFI boot entry.
[20:43] <Jack_Sparrow__> MiguelFuller, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/top-3-free-iso-burners-windows-7
[20:44] <webphil> Jordan_U: Is there a difference between booting via a liveusb and doing that vs booting into the installed ubuntu instance via EFI shell?
[20:44] <IntelCore> yes
[20:45] <IntelCore> << groceries
[20:45] <Jordan_U> webphil: Yes. It's much easier to fix grub from the installed system, so you should ignore what I said and just boot your installed Ubuntu :)
[20:46] <webphil> Jordan_U, awesome, saves me download a live USB (: the output of efibootmgr -v is; Timeout 1 second. Boot Order: 0001. Boot001* UEFI: SanDisk PciRoot/...USB....GPT....BO (truncated but I hopefully have everything important because I'm reading it from a different screen)
[20:47] <ChadTaljaardt> can anyone help me debug this issue :/
[20:47] <ChadTaljaardt> sorry wrong channel :)
[20:47] <Jordan_U> wepThere should be an entry titled "Ubuntu" there. Running "sudo grub-install" (with no other arguments) should add it back.
[20:49] <webphil> Jordan_U: ok, just ran that and now efibootmgr's output is; boot order: 0000,0001. Boot0000* ubuntu .... \shimx64.efi. Boot0001...same as before
[20:49] <webphil> I'll give it a reboot and see if that does the trick
[20:49] <webphil> looks like its booting! :D
[20:50] <webphil> Thanks Jordon_U!
[20:50] <webphil> Any ideas why it decided to eat the ubuntu entry out of the blue?
[20:51] <YankDownUnder> webphil, Power outtage? BIOS/EFI reset?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> webphil: No. Maybe there was a boot firmware update that didn't preserve the entries. Windows also writes its bootlaoder to \EFI\boot\bootx64.efi on the EFI System Partition, so that it will boot even with no UEFI entry. Most distros consider writing to that path to be unfriendly to other OSs that might have their own bootloader there.
[20:52] <webphil> AFAIK, there wasn't a power outage - it's not like any clocks in my house got reset or anything on the day the server died. BIOS/EFI reset - maybe - but nothing directly triggered by me I dont think
[20:53] <webphil> I don't have windows or an other OS on the server
[20:53] <Jordan_U> webphil: If a problem doesn't effect Windows then boot firmware manufacturers tend not to notice it or put a high priority on fixing it.
[20:53] <webphil> so I guess best guess is some UEFI update nuked the settings or something
[20:53] <YankDownUnder> webphil, On my Ubuntu server, I had the same - and it WAS after a "firmware update" - but luckily I wasn't in panic mode and just updated grub...(luckily)
[20:54] <webphil> YankDownUnder: I'm just happy this is my home test server and not a production box in a remote DC somewhere . Glad it was just a grub-install and nothing too crazy to fix it (:
[20:55] <Taose> IntelCore, hplip installs them all.
[20:55] <Taose> But the problem isn't that at the moment. It's perl
[20:55] <IntelCore> yes bug
[20:55] <YankDownUnder> webphil, Oh yeah...oh yeah...I'm always paranoid about the remotes I have...distance can be both a blessing and a curse...
[20:56] <IntelCore> get the one for ubuntu, after remove what is now there
[20:57] <IntelCore> may get off usb/dvd install
[20:57] <IntelCore> move tha file
[21:00] <Taose> Well I got a slightly different issue now
[21:00] <Taose> I followed Reuben's work around
[21:00] <Taose> and that went through fine
[21:01] <Taose> So I went to simple scan
[21:01] <Taose> and it told me no scanners were found
[21:01] <Taose> click close
[21:01] <Taose> Tells me to fix error by downloading drivers
[21:01] <Taose> that goes through successfully
[21:01] <Taose> restart simple scan
[21:01] <IntelCore> k.. tha orig versins on install disk . not debian
[21:01] <Taose> and back to telling me no were found
[21:01] <Taose> I don't have an install disk
[21:02] <Taose> All I have is what's in the ubuntu repository
[21:02] <IntelCore> when you iso 16.04
[21:02] <Taose> That just grabs the necessary files from the repository
[21:03] <Taose> and it appears that the error has been present for quite a while in 16.04 too
[21:03] <IntelCore> the iso on my drive is all the files to put on disk to install with
[21:04] <Taose> Point is: The file on iso won't fix it, because it has the same error
[21:04] <IntelCore> it should not be the debian?
[21:04] <Taose> it is.
[21:04] <Taose> Feel free to check
[21:05] <Taose> Ubuntu is pretty much a reskinned debian at any rate.
[21:05] <Taose> so all debian stuff works on ubuntu
[21:05] <IntelCore> 2200 to 2224 was that one driver
[21:05] <Taose> That's included in hplip
[21:05] <Taose> I already have them
[21:05] <Taose> All of them
[21:05] <IntelCore> dang scanner
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[21:06] <NoCode> what the heck
[21:06] <Taose> >_>
[21:06] <Cyph0n> hmmm
[21:06] <ViciousLooRoll> Holy crap
[21:06] <ReScO> Dafuq
[21:06] <ViciousLooRoll> My phone is now melting.
[21:06] <Taose> lmfao
[21:07] <varazir> lol
[21:07] <Taose> But yeah...it's just the scanner that's being the issue
[21:07] <Taose> I'm gonna see if smurfen's work around works...
[21:09] <Taose> nope same issue
[21:17] <Taose> .... totall didn't install linux...
[21:17] <Taose> "The following packages have been kept back:
[21:17] <Taose>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic
[21:17] <Taose>   linux-signed-image-generic
[21:17] <Taose> "
[21:17] <Taose> Not something you wanna ever see
[21:18] <wadie> spaaaam :(
[21:20] <Taose> Is there any way to double check that linux is actually still installed -_-
[21:21] <ChaiTRex> Taose: A simple way is to boot it.
[21:21] <Taose> Oh I'm inside it.
[21:21] <ChaiTRex> Taose: You can also look in /boot for kernel stuff.
[21:21] <Taose> It's just the last time something removed the headers etcetera, I ended up having to use a faulty laptop to try and get it to boot again...
[21:21] <Taose> fun times
[21:21] <Taose> Ooh thanks
[21:22] <ChaiTRex> Taose: You can prepare a live USB drive/DVD.
[21:23] <Taose> Well it looks okay for now
[21:23] <Taose> Who knew getting a scanner to work could cause so many problems...
[21:25] <oerheks> depends on the brand, most scanners are plug&play
[21:26] <Taose> hp f2280...
[21:26] <Taose> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1574351
[21:30] <DalekSec> IntelCore: Sorry mate, but due to the spam unregistered users can't be seen here.
[21:30] <solidfox> is this a good place to ask a question about chromium?
[21:31] <solidfox> on ubuntu
[21:31] <solidfox> I choose to log-in automatically since my hard drive is encrypted (I don't want to type two passwords when booting up)
[21:31] <solidfox> now chromium browser always wants me to type my password anyway (but I don't even use it to save passwords)
[21:32] <solidfox> can I tell chromium to stop asking me for my password?
[21:33] <ChaiTRex> solidfox: Does it ask you specifically for the password to your keyring?
[21:33] <solidfox> ChaiTRex, yes
[21:34] <solidfox> I can hit cancel 4 times and it goes away, but if I don't have to it'd be nice.
[21:34] <ChaiTRex> solidfox: Some possible solutions are at https://askubuntu.com/questions/31786/chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup
[21:36] <oerheks> Taose, seen such messages before, from other packages, this tread gives 2 solutions with apt-get and dpkg > https://askubuntu.com/questions/176121/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-file-which-is-also-in
[21:36] <oerheks> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <package-name>
[21:37] <oerheks> ugly, but works
[21:38] <IntelCore> oerherks !  }}
[21:39] <IntelCore> baz!!!
[21:41] <Taose> Well not sure about that oerheks, I seem to have got it working
[21:41] <Taose> after reinstalling the linux headers and perl
[21:41] <Taose> but only if I use sudo
[21:41]  * Taose will figure out how to add permissions for myself later
[21:45] <solidfox> ChaiTRex, thanks, but it seems chromium does not offer that option anymore
[21:45] <solidfox> I will just accept it...
[21:46] <blackware> what os you`re using?
[21:46] <blackware> alexandre9099 br?
[21:49] <IntelCore> hi
[21:49] <tonyt> hi
[21:49] <ChaiTRex> hi
[21:49] <IntelCore> ello baz
[21:54] <dax> IntelCore: let's not poke specific people, thanks
[21:55] <IntelCore> but he helped me bef4
[22:04] <Umeaboy> I just noticed another issue in 17.04.
[22:04] <blackware> mr. robot? anyone?
[22:04] <Umeaboy> Virtualbox works neither with 1.1.18 or 1.1.22.
[22:05] <Umeaboy> blackware: Hi! I'm Kristoffer. How may I be of assistance?
[22:05] <ChaiTRex> Umeaboy: VirtualBox 1.1.18?
[22:05] <Taose> Another issue Umeaboy ;)
[22:05] <Umeaboy> ChaiTRex: Yes.
[22:05] <DalekSec> !info virtualbox zesty
[22:06] <ChaiTRex> Umeaboy: You should be seeing VirtualBox 5 something.
[22:06] <Umeaboy> Sorry. 5.1.18.
[22:06] <Taose> Thanks for the assist IntelCore et al and g'night
[22:06] <Umeaboy> 5.1.22 won't complete the installation.
[22:07] <Umeaboy> I even did apt-get purge virtualbox after uninstalling the latest stable.
[22:08] <Umeaboy> I was just about to install the ext pack and ran virtualbox. That created a crash.
[22:08] <Umeaboy> Yes, I did send the information.
[22:08] <ChaiTRex> Umeaboy: Were there any error messages when installing or was it just a crash when starting it up?
[22:08] <Umeaboy> The second.
[22:08] <Umeaboy> No errors.
[22:08] <IntelCore> .. not into 16.10 yet
[22:09] <ChaiTRex> Umeaboy: Does rebooting your actual computer let VirtualBox start up?
[22:10] <Umeaboy> Let me check.
[22:20] <Guest80888> hi
[22:34] <Umeaboy> ChaiTRex: That seemed to fix it. Weird.
[22:36] <bjrohan> Hi all. I have a brand new laptop with a 1TB drive, my old system has a 350GB drive running Mint. What is the best way to mirror that old drive to the new including all partitions that the new system will "work"
[22:36] <bjrohan> would dd do this?
[22:37] <bjrohan> I don't want to save anything on the new system ie the preinstalled windoze, recovery etc.
[22:39] <Umeaboy> Did you do perform a backup on the older harddrive?
[22:39] <Umeaboy> bjrohan: ^^
[22:39] <bjrohan> Umeaboy, I have not, however I can, as I have another 1TB that I can back it up to
[22:41] <Umeaboy> Otherwize..... I personally prefer to just install fresh.
[22:43] <F12> Hello
[22:43] <leftyfb> bjrohan: dd will work fine. As will clonezilla
[22:44] <croz> Is there a slim and portable (lightweight) laptop designed for Ubuntu that runs DOTA 2 (video game)? I'm looking at the System76 Oryx, but that thing weighs 5.5 lbs and has a 2 hour battery life.
[22:46] <bjrohan> Umeaboy, leftyfb When I said "my" computer it's my fathers, and I don;t know what programs he has, so I would prefer NOT to do a new install and then have to listen to him calling me up because he can't find a program he used to have
[22:46] <bjrohan> :-)
[22:47] <leftyfb> oh, you want to keep what's on the old one
[22:47] <leftyfb> yeah, that's not going to be worth your time
[22:47] <leftyfb> sorry, new one
[22:48] <leftyfb> bjrohan: actually, i'm a bit confused...
[22:48] <bjrohan> leftyfb, I simply would like to copy everything (bit by bit) from old drive (hooked up via usb adapter) the the new internal 1TB so that the laptop boots just like it was his old comp
[22:48] <Umeaboy> croz: Check out this one: https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15
[22:48] <Umeaboy> :)
[22:49] <croz> Their ship time is like a month or longer.
[22:49] <leftyfb> bjrohan: use dd
[22:49] <croz> I checked them out.
[22:49] <bcx> Using Gnome 3.20, it seems that processes launched by keybindings (uses gnome-settings-daemon) do not get env variables set by xinit. Can someone confirm ? Know a wrokaround ? Thanks
[22:49] <leftyfb> bjrohan: what version of ubuntu is he running now?
[22:49] <bjrohan> It's mint, I don't know the version
[22:50] <bjrohan> I put that on vs ubuntu, as it looks more like Windows that he's used all his life
[22:50] <leftyfb> bjrohan: you know this is #ubuntu and not #linuxmint-help right?
[22:50] <bjrohan> yes, but I know at the very base, for something like cloning, all debian based work the same :-)
[22:50] <leftyfb> bjrohan: either way, as I said originally, use dd or clonezilla
[22:53] <Lachezar> Hey all. Trying to upgrade 16.10 to 17.04, but I see +114 packages, noticeably 'build-essentials', 'dpkg-dev', 'g++, 'g++-6' and 'pkg-config', which strikes me as a set that is wrong for a common-use desktop.
[22:53] <Lachezar> Is there a way to find out what pulls all these new packages?
[22:54] <leftyfb> Lachezar: not really. Also, I would recommend sticking with LTS versions of ubuntu which are supported for 5 years as opposed to 18 months for non-LTS.
[22:54] <Lachezar> leftyfb: I'm not using LTS anyway, but upgrading pulls  114 new packages, which seem to be developer-oriented.
[22:55] <\9> yeah those are developer packages
[22:55] <leftyfb> not really
[22:55] <leftyfb> they're required if you want to install anything from source
[22:55] <Lachezar> So how come a distro upgrade pulls in those?
[22:58] <Umeaboy> Lachezar: I think that depends on if you have Backports enabled or not.
[22:58] <Lachezar> Q2: After migrating, will there be any log that I can check to see what was added, so that I can try and remove them (and see what actually pulled them in)?
[22:59] <newlinux> Hi what ubuntu verison is stable?
[22:59] <Lachezar> Umeaboy: I do have backports enabled, but I do not have build-essentials installed.
[22:59] <Umeaboy> Lachezar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[22:59] <Umeaboy> newlinux: Depends on your computer.
[23:00] <leftyfb> build-essentials is not part of backports
[23:00] <Lachezar> newlinux: Any.
[23:00] <Umeaboy> But I'd say 16.04 LTS is.
[23:00] <newlinux> thank you
[23:01] <Lachezar> Hm. Wasn't there an 'apt-get why package-name' command?
[23:01] <Umeaboy> Just set Ubuntu to only offer upgrades with LTS support and you'll be fine.
[23:01] <Umeaboy> Lachezar: Nope.
[23:01] <yeetfimt> Hello, I was looking for a suggestion for buying a low priced, sleek looking, ultra portable, good battery life and performance GNU+Linux compatible laptop (https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6b6qmw/suggestion_for_a_low_priced_sleek_case_design/)
[23:01] <Umeaboy> It's not working here.
[23:01] <ikonia> newlinux: the ones on ubuntu.com are
[23:01] <leftyfb> yeetfimt: you're asking for a lot
[23:01] <Aginor> yeetfimt: spamming all linux related channels might not be the best way to get suggestions :)
[23:02] <Umeaboy> yeetfimt: Check at pricegrabber.com or pricespy.co.uk.
[23:02] <Lachezar> Ugh. It was 'aptitude why ...' but aptitude has been lost (pun intended).
[23:02] <Umeaboy> Preferably the latter.
[23:03] <Umeaboy> yeetfimt: Check out Librem 15. :)
[23:03] <Umeaboy> Next computer I'll buy is going to be that one.
[23:04] <Umeaboy> A kernel free from proprietary blobs...... Yaaaaaaaay!
[23:04] <Ichimusai> Wouldn't that be nice...
[23:06]  * Lachezar wonders which lazy dev put a dependency on 'build-essentials'…
[23:06] <Lachezar> I guess I'll find out after upgrading. Hope it's not one of those Pidgin stupidities (pulling Unity into Xubuntu).
[23:08] <yeetfimt> thanks, leftyfb, Aginor, Umeaboy for your advice and being nice.:)
[23:08] <yeetfimt> * :)
[23:08] <Umeaboy> YW. :)
[23:09] <leftyfb> Lachezar was getting all flustered over a 20k package which does nothing unless you want to install an application from source
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow__> newlinux, Get all the Buntus and run them in live usb for a test, very easy
[23:11] <croz> anyone have ubuntu running on 4k display (preferably laptop)? any issues with font display?
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> yeeve, $250 for quad core asus on amazon.
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow__> no fiddling install ordriver issues
[23:16] <croz> Is there any security advantage to using Ubuntu over MacOS? I see a lot of threads on Reddit for Ubuntu over Windows AND Mac where they conflate things, but are there any advantages with Ubuntu over Mac only?
[23:17] <PlasmaStar> croz: God yes. Ubuntu is free.
[23:18] <croz> Not talking about price. Talking about security.
[23:18] <Umeaboy> croz: Not really font size.
[23:18] <Umeaboy> Windows in general.
[23:18] <croz> But I do appreciate that difference of course, but at this point I'm already an Apple whore looking to learn more about security advantages.
[23:18] <croz> Umeaboy what issues do you have with ur 4k and ubuntu?
[23:18] <Umeaboy> Unity itself is fine, but the windows I open looks to have a higher resolution.
[23:19] <croz> I have the newest Macbook Pro with touchbar and maxed out specs, but Linux and the new MBP don't play nice.
[23:19] <croz> Umeaboy damn i had issues with that on my other macbook pro. thought it was a hardware issue.
[23:19] <Umeaboy> croz: Sorry...... MBP?
[23:19] <croz> Macbook Pro
[23:19] <Umeaboy> OK.
[23:20] <Umeaboy> Nope. It isn't.
[23:20] <Umeaboy> At least for me it isn't.
[23:20] <Umeaboy> 16.10 works just fine when it comes to resolution.
[23:20] <Umeaboy> And now I'm runnin 17.04.
[23:21] <Umeaboy> xrandr -s 0 will reset your graphics settings. It didn't change anything for me.
[23:22] <Umeaboy> I'm thinking about deleting the Xorg.conf so that a new one will be generated.
[23:22] <croz> I'm thinking about buying a System76 Oryx which has nice hardware and comes shipped with Ubuntu (16.04LTS or 17.04), but I'm not nuts about the 5.5lb weigh. Being able to play DOTA 2 is a must. Any ideas Umeaboy?
[23:22] <YankDownUnder> croz, Linux (nearly any version) can be so locked down the locks can have locks with locks. On macOS, you can do the same, but it takes a bit of savvy...but bear in mind that macOS *is* a *nix flavour...but for ease and software? Linux...
[23:22] <kittykitty> im writing a C++ program and it crashes with sigsegv on ubuntu 16.04 but not on 16.10. Works on arch too. Ive tried updating the graphics lib used, gcc to the same as on 16.10 too. What else could be causing this strange behaviour? Maybe libc++? Theyre the same on both...
[23:24] <Umeaboy> croz: Ask the developers of DOTA to realease full source code to you so that you can make a customized build. :)
[23:24] <croz> haha that's WAY over my head
[23:24] <Umeaboy> Not really. You can always learn. :)
[23:24] <Umeaboy> Unless you're lazy.
[23:24] <croz> im just looking to jump into ubuntu but want a sleek and light design like my macbook pros, but i want it to be able to run DOTA 2 maxed out.
[23:24] <Umeaboy> :)
[23:25] <croz> price isn't an issue
[23:25] <kittykitty> im using libprocps and the dev package is a version behind on 16.04 is all i can think os
[23:25] <kittykitty> *of
[23:25] <Umeaboy> What's the maximum weight you be OK with?
[23:25] <YankDownUnder> What is DOTA?
[23:25] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: A game 1 person plays.
[23:25] <Umeaboy> :)
[23:25] <croz> well this mbp weighs 3lbs. so hopefully around there and has great portablility focused dimensions
[23:26] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy, Ah. Right. So it's not HL2 or Black Mesa Source...(not a game, then) :)
[23:26] <croz> YankDownUnder here's some gameplay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doc_vYSZc9c
[23:26] <croz> it's a great game.
[23:26] <croz> 5v5 online game
[23:27] <Umeaboy> I prefer 0.a.d :)
[23:27] <Umeaboy> I even helped translate it into Swedish.
[23:27] <Umeaboy> :)
[23:28] <croz> never heard of that one. but at this point its safe to say DOTA 2 is my game of choice. got me off madden, bf, cod, and other games.
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> Coolbeans...not my style, but looks nice...looks "heavy"...
[23:28] <croz> heavy?
[23:28] <Umeaboy> Anyway..... Gotta go.
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> croz, "Heavy" meaning there more to it than just "shoot kill shoot kill!"
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> :)
[23:29] <croz> oh hell yes teamwork is vital to winning
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> croz, Does this work on an MBP at all?
[23:30] <croz> dota? yes i can run it maxed out
[23:31] <croz> i have a Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB on here
[23:31] <YankDownUnder> croz, Running macOS or linux?
[23:31] <croz> macos, linux isn't compatible on here yet. i'd be stuck without sound, crappy wifi, no bluetooth, and other issues.
[23:32] <croz> thats why im looking to buy a laptop that is sleek, portable, has fully supported hardware, but can run dota 2 with maxed out specs or close to it
[23:33] <YankDownUnder> croz, Fair enough...
[23:33] <IntelCore> 14.04 going to grab 15.10, then get the 16.04 lts ???
[23:34] <YankDownUnder> IntelCore, Why not upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[23:34] <IntelCore> ye i wanna. it does?
[23:36] <YankDownUnder> IntelCore, 14.04 is an LTS release (long term support) - and 16.04 is an LTS release...so, um, yeah...there exists no requirement to add an extra step...
[23:36] <croz> YankDownUnder any ideas what laptops fit my requirements
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> IntelCore, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[23:37] <IntelCore> we was back when 15.10 was required first, and i was waiting for 16.04.1
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> croz, PERSONALLY - and if I had the dosh (money), I'd be sussing out the Alienware stuff...but that's me... :)
[23:40] <croz> i have an alienware
[23:40] <IntelCore> will boot ubuntu and install.
[23:40] <croz> 17" too big
[23:41] <Jakethepython1> hello guys i have a Dell  5520 and the video is artifacting badly when chrome is open
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> croz, ENVIOUS...you running Ubu on it? (17" is perfect for doing digital photo/art)
[23:41] <IntelCore> I want to install 16.04.2 and it will allow that?
[23:41] <croz> no windows and it's sitting in a cabinet. and i have an MSIGT72, another 17" with 8GB graphics on it
[23:41] <croz> also sitting in a drawer XD
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> IntelCore, It will follow with what is CURRENT - so yes, you'll end up with 16.04.2, mate.
[23:41] <croz> i dont do digital photo/art. i just work and game
[23:42] <ikonia> croz: wasn't this just covered in ##linu
[23:42] <ikonia> linux
[23:42] <croz> yeah just getting more input and we're discussing my other laptops now
[23:43] <ikonia> you where told what to do though
[23:43] <croz> seeing if anyone has any other suggestions.
[23:43] <ikonia> just find one with compatible chipsets
[23:43] <ikonia> and that meets your spec
[23:43] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, Only Chrome? Do you have the proper graphics drivers? As well, have you considered turning off "compositiing" in your DE/WM ?
[23:43] <IntelCore> friend got locked out of alien machine cas lost password for domain
[23:43] <croz> exactly. im asking for suggestions. i dont know about chipsets, etc.
[23:43] <DocMAX> who cares?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572950
[23:43] <ikonia> croz: so check the ubuntu supported ones (intel will see you right) and just by one with as much intel as possible
[23:43] <Jakethepython1> what is compositing
[23:44] <ikonia> DocMAX: ask a question / for help - not just spam a link with a smart response
[23:44] <IntelCore> i7 about 539usd
[23:44] <DocMAX> the question is, why is the issue still open?
[23:44] <croz> thing is ive been so into apple for years except for my gaming laptops and pc that i dont know who makes any good, quality, lightweight stuff. :(
[23:44] <ikonia> DocMAX: what does the bug report say on it's status
[23:44] <croz> ive been that guy that buys every new mac as they come out. they got me by the balls man
[23:45] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, What "Desktop Environment" are you running right now?
[23:45] <Jakethepython1> gnome
[23:45] <ikonia> croz: just keep to the main big names and buy intel - investigate your video cards/wifi cards and you'll be gine
[23:45]  * YankDownUnder looks at his pitiful 2011 MBP and 2010 27" iMac and sobs
[23:45] <DocMAX> ikonia, confirmed Undecided unassigned
[23:46] <ikonia> DocMAX: ok, so thats why it's still open then
[23:46] <Lachezar> Found it. 'gstreamer1.0-tools' -> 'pkg-config' -> 'dpkg-dev' (suggests) -> 'build-essential'
[23:46] <DocMAX> since 1 year?
[23:46] <newlinux> Is using multiple passes for wiping a disk really necessary?
[23:46] <ikonia> DocMAX: if it's unassigned - it can't get fix
[23:46] <IntelCore> Jake --- putting image over an image ( 3 D) ?
[23:46] <DocMAX> ikonia, of course it can, it's just a module that needs compiling
[23:47] <ikonia> DocMAX: if it's not assigned to anyone....it can't get a fix released
[23:47] <DocMAX> ikonia, in arch its allready in
[23:47] <Jakethepython1> how do i disable that
[23:47] <ikonia> DocMAX: so ?
[23:47] <IntelCore> u want it. eh
[23:47] <DocMAX> ikonia, so nobody cares?
[23:47] <ikonia> DocMAX: you've just admitted to the arch channel you are new to arch and don't really know what to do on compiling a module
[23:47] <IntelCore> Jake -- Compz?
[23:47] <ikonia> DocMAX: so don't try to be smart referencing it as if you know what's going on and the implications of the release process
[23:48] <coppz> hello is someone here for a bit of help?
[23:48] <ikonia> DocMAX: you're welcome to work on the bug and submit the patch / fix for inclusion
[23:48] <ikonia> DocMAX: if it's that simple just submit the fix
[23:48] <coppz> im trying to create a bootable USB of Windows on Ubuntu 16.04 but unetbootin wont do it...
[23:48] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, You can use "gnome-tweak-tool" to disable animations - see if that resolves the issue firstly...then take it to the next steps if that doesn't work...
[23:48] <Jakethepython1> ok
[23:48] <IntelCore> it will get very flat
[23:49] <coppz> im trying to create a bootable USB of Windows on Ubuntu 16.04 but unetbootin wont do it.
[23:49] <ikonia> coppz: you don't need to keep asking 18 seconds apart
[23:49] <ikonia> DocMAX: got it fixed yet ?
[23:50] <ikonia> DocMAX: do you not care ?
[23:50] <IntelCore> windows have a usb burner to install windows by usb
[23:50] <DocMAX> ikonia, i do care... just downloaded the samba sources to compile
[23:50] <DocMAX> then i will upload the deb package
[23:50] <coppz> i thought no one had seen it. On Ubuntu?
[23:50] <ikonia> DocMAX: fantastic, I look forward to seeing the fix go through the release cycle
[23:50] <ikonia> DocMAX: thank you very much
[23:50] <ikonia> I'll put a watch on the bug
[23:51] <DocMAX> ikonia, you r welcome
[23:51] <IntelCore> run win 10 in vm on ubuntu
[23:51] <coppz> tried that, sat on the windows logo for literally about 35mins.
[23:52] <croz> ikonia what do you think about this one? http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-15-5520-laptop/pd?oc=xctop5520hwus
[23:52] <coppz> as in the Windows boot image. never even got a chance to install.
[23:52] <ikonia> croz: it's what you think that matters
[23:53] <IntelCore> i never see winblows under linux/ on linux..
[23:53] <ikonia> it's called "windows"
[23:53] <IntelCore> ooop
[23:54] <ikonia> if you can't disguss something with out silly stupid names - don't bother
[23:54] <ikonia> discuss even
[23:54] <coppz> basically my gf has to run Windows for things like Auto CAD and a few other things but I had to replace her HD and I put an SSD in it. I only run ubuntu and I never thought it'd be such a pain in the ass to get Windows on a USB within Ubuntu
[23:54] <IntelCore> right, well vm ware was only i seen
[23:55] <coppz> hm, I only tried virtualbox. You mean create a VM, install windows, and in that VM mount the ISO?
[23:55] <akik_> coppz: you can do it in ubuntu. i'll link you to a doc. which windows version?
[23:55] <coppz> 10 mate sound
[23:56] <DocMAX> ikonia, allmost done
[23:56] <ikonia> superb
[23:56] <akik_> coppz: https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/how-to-create-a-bootable-uefi-gpt-windows-10-usb-stick-in-ubuntu/
[23:57] <coppz> this looks complicated but sure I gotta do what I gotta do! thanks a mill mate!
[23:57] <DocMAX> akik_, i created a dualboot (UEFI AND BIOS) arch/ubuntu stick
[23:57] <DocMAX> i'm very proud of it
[23:57] <IntelCore> or down the windows usb stick burner, and stuff 16.04.2 on it
[23:58] <DocMAX> used syslinux and gummiboot for this
[23:59] <IntelCore> u run both from usb