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jbicharobert_ancell: did you see that gnome-software/zesty got stuck in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html01:00
robert_ancelljbicha, should be fixed in bug 168942501:01
ubot5bug 1689425 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Zesty) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:11:g_source_attach:debconf_accept_cb:socket_source_dispatch:g_main_dispatch:g_main_context_dispatch" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168942501:01
jbichadid you see that the current error in the phased-updates report is different than the one mentioned in that bug?01:02
robert_ancelljbicha, no01:03
robert_ancelljbicha, hmm, not sure if the last update triggered that one01:04
jbichayeah, that's what I was wondering01:06
jbichaI liked phased-updates except when it's blocking an important update and I have to scratch my head to try to figure out what's not working01:07
jbichawe can ask bdmurray if he's willing to ignore that error?01:07
jbichathe phasing on webkit/xenial is funny, every other time it checks it pauses the rollout, but at least the % is still rising01:23
jbichahttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libwebkit2gtk-4.0-3701:23
dufluActually, tangentially, is there someone able to implement/consider enhancements/fixes to errors.ubuntu.com?01:24
TrevinhoMorning duflu02:12
dufluMorning Trevinho. How's it going?02:15
Trevinhoduflu: good... But last week of Bali it seems :-(02:16
dufluTrevinho, yeah end-of-holiday comedown is bad02:18
dufluUsually post-holiday02:18
Trevinhoduflu: it's not holiday! 😂02:18
dufluAlthough my definition of holiday is a time when you completely forget your job and how to do it...02:19
TrevinhoThe thing is that at this point I should have just spent more time in this area, maybe Australia too... But I'll do again in the future maybe.02:19
TrevinhoAnd well, getting advantage of being remote in this way is just great02:20
dufluTrevinho: Nothing's happening down here. You missed nothing :)02:23
Trevinhoduflu: I believe there's always something to feed your (mine, at least) curiosity anywhere you go02:24
dufluTrevinho: Did you get around the island much?02:26
Trevinhoduflu: well... Just during weekends and national holidays, but I mostly all the things in my list. Just a few to scratch02:28
dufluTrevinho, I always wanted to see the volcanic lake(s), but never got there...02:35
Trevinhoduflu: that's quite a cool hike02:36
TrevinhoQuite busy, but the view is amazing02:36
jbicharobert_ancell: can you review https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/revision/2902:41
jbichahttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu-lightdm-user-switching.patch02:42
Trevinhonow that I'm leaving this coworking they've just upgraded the network to snappy-frendly speeds :-(04:27
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jibelgood morning05:50
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oSoMoNgood morning!07:43
seb128good morning desktopers08:00
seb128I'm back!08:00
seb128hey oSoMoN08:00
jibelSalut seb12808:00
didrockswb seb128, hey oSoMoN, salut jibel08:01
oSoMoNsalut seb128, didrocks, jibel08:01
oSoMoNseb128, had a good holiday?08:01
seb128hey jibel, welcome on board!08:02
jibelthanks08:02
seb128re didrocks, hey willcooke08:02
Laneymoin08:03
didrockshey Laney08:03
seb128oSoMoN, useful time off indeed08:03
seb128hey Laney08:03
willcookemorning08:05
willcookehi papa seb12808:05
seb128haha08:06
Laneyhey didrocks hey seb128 hey willcooke!08:07
Laneyhow do?08:07
willcookeHaving to put the light on today08:08
willcooketoo dark in here08:08
seb128it's nice&sunny here08:09
Laneyso pleased08:09
andyrockmorning08:44
willcookehey andyrock, welcome to full time employment ;D08:50
andyrockthank :S09:00
andyrock:D09:00
Trevinhohi babbo seb128 !!! :-D09:12
seb128hey Trevinho09:13
seb128Trevinho, sorry, saw your message the other day but it was a bit busy here and I forgot to reply09:13
seb128hey andyrock, welcome on board as full time employee09:13
Trevinhoseb128: no worries... I know the timing isn't the best for dealing with all the things ;-)09:13
andyrockseb128: thanks!09:13
Trevinhoseb128: but I hope you're all fine!09:13
seb128Trevinho, it is, thanks09:19
TrevinhoGlad tohear09:19
Trevinhohow is your sleep time? :D09:19
seb128chaotic09:20
seb128but it's ok, as a geek I know how to deal with that09:20
seb128:-)09:21
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Trevinhoehehe, sure... ;-)09:43
andyrockhey seb128, where is the code for the "Online Accounts" panel in System Settings10:14
andyrockthere is nothing in unity-control-center/panels10:14
seb128andyrock, talking Unity, not gnome right?10:24
seb128andyrock, https://code.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center-signon10:26
andyrockthanks10:30
Laneyright so10:35
LaneyI've got Ken's pkg that turns off the Mir backend in GTK10:35
Laney5 minutes to scream before I fire ze missiles10:35
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Laneythe only thing is that it removes some symbols10:45
Trevinhosil2100: when you've a sec, please publish this https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/276010:45
seb128Laney, willcooke, I guess we stop mir support for desktop usecases?10:45
willcookeseb128, yah10:45
sil2100Trevinho: looking10:45
seb128k10:45
Laneyseb128: I think they even want to SRU that10:45
seb128why?!10:45
seb128it's not like having an experimental gtk backend built in zesty would hurt anyone10:46
sil2100Trevinho: will the autopkgtests pass? I always preferred to have those available already10:46
seb128I wouldn't bother10:46
Laneyin xenial, not sure about other releases10:46
seb128removing mir?10:46
seb128or just gtkmir?10:46
Trevinhosil2100: well, nothing changed package side for that... But if you want feel free to wait10:46
LaneyI think it's something like - deprecated/removed API, breaking projects -> remove them10:46
TrevinhoAnyone here got GS running in wayland from jhbuild? :-)10:47
Laneydon't know about GTK specifically, but other desktop things10:47
seb128k10:47
sil2100Trevinho: I guess I won't wait, if it fails we'll see it on the main infra10:47
LaneyTrevinho: Session, Shell, Software, Sudoku, Screensaver?10:49
TrevinhoLaney: I've jhbuild here with installed most of things, no session as main one should be fine, nor screensaver... But my GS starts in X10:50
TrevinhoI've also recompiled XWayland but for some reason that doesn't start10:50
LaneyI'm saying that GS means like 10 things10:51
Laneydo you mean gnome-shell?10:51
TrevinhoLaney: ah, sure10:51
TrevinhoAs I'm looking at the point scaling these days10:52
Laneyyeah sorry, no idea :P10:52
Laneyprobably #gnome-shell would be the place10:52
Trevinhoyeah, I'm speaking with people from there... I was just wondering if someone here had an ubuntu setup for that.10:53
TrevinhoLaney: ah I've also changed the theme as you liked more11:02
Trevinhoonly for those tho11:03
Trevinho(those buttons)11:03
LaneyTrevinho: ok, feel free to publish11:04
Laneythanks!11:04
Laneyah wait11:05
Trevinhowhat?11:06
Laneyhttps://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/minheight.png11:06
Laneydo you think the titlebar is too small there?11:07
Laneylooks like a missing min-height11:07
Trevinhoyeah...11:07
TrevinhoIt actually is defined11:07
Trevinhonot sure why that happens :|11:07
TrevinhoI've not a program to repropduce11:07
Trevinhoor... yeah. I have11:07
Trevinholet me see11:07
Laneythere's one :P11:07
TrevinhoLaney: sure, but that is hard to get in my window :)11:08
* Trevinho broke is GS11:09
Trevinhohow  is that possible if I only touched jhbuild... mhmh11:09
TrevinhoLaney: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/messagedialog-minheight/+merge/32405211:36
Trevinhonot's are needed here11:36
Laneyhahaha11:36
Laneyof course they are11:36
LaneyTrevinho loves the not11:36
Trevinhowell, might not... but... still :)11:36
LaneyTrevinho: got a screenshot?11:37
TrevinhoLaney: ops... no... but just paste that in yours ctrl+shift+d/u11:38
Trevinhos/u/i/11:38
Laneyhmm11:38
Laneywhere can I get one easily?11:38
Laneya dialog11:38
TrevinhoLaney: terminal has one when you try to close it but it has a child open11:38
Trevinhobut... i think that was fine even before11:38
TrevinhoLaney: make something crash :-D11:39
Laneywhy don't we set min-height on all titlebars?11:41
TrevinhoLaney: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24580502/11:43
Laneyheh11:43
Laneyyou hax0r11:44
TrevinhoLaney: real one would have said11:45
Trevinhopython -c 'from gi.repository import Gtk; Gtk.MessageDialog().run()'11:45
Trevinhowith some obfuscation :-D11:45
Trevinhoas for the min height for all the widgets... Mhmh, even adwaita does some selection, I'd avoid it for now, unless we donèt11:46
Trevinhodon't find something that doesn't work as we want11:46
Laneyi'm annoyed by how complicated the theme is11:48
jbichaLaney: we could probably do gtk3 3.22.15 at the same time as the mir removal for artful11:57
Laney+  [ Iain Lane ]11:58
Laney+  * New upstream release 3.12.15 (also includes 14, 13).11:58
jbichathanks12:00
Trevinhojbicha: hey, maybe you can help about the jhbuild + wayland session?12:04
jbichaTrevinho: I don't think you can directly use jhbuild to run GNOME Shell on Wayland12:05
Trevinhojbicha: I need to create a gdm instance, I know...12:06
jbichayou probably know more than me then!12:06
jbichaif I had to test something like that, I would just patch the distro package and install that12:07
muktupavelsTrevinho: create script that will start your jhbuild session and then install session desktop file in /usr/share/wayland-sessions. then you can select that session from lightdm/gdm.12:10
muktupavelsTrevinho: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24580591/12:11
Trevinhomuktupavels: basically it's what I've done...12:11
Trevinhomhmh12:11
muktupavelshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24580593/12:11
Trevinhomh, something different tho, let me see that12:11
muktupavelsthat is how I am starting sessions built in jhbuild, but I use lightdm and second seat for that.12:12
jbichaI've had trouble with gdm not giving me an option for new sessions until I restart gdm12:12
Trevinhomuktupavels: i'm with lightdm too now12:12
Trevinhojbicha: well, same is for lightdm...12:12
Trevinhomuktupavels: the fact that my jhbuild is only installed for the user is a problem?12:13
muktupavelsonly ligthdm + second seat + wayland has some problems.12:13
Trevinhomuktupavels: as I guess it should not...12:13
Trevinhobut...12:13
muktupavelsI dont know, just posted what I use and what works for me.12:14
Trevinhomuktupavels: mh, ok.... I don't get any debugging in journalctl tho12:15
muktupavelsI also had to symlink some typlib files into prefix to get gnome-shell working12:15
muktupavelsI have errors and debug messages in journalctl...12:16
muktupavelstry to add --debug to gnome-session?12:17
Trevinhoyeah, tried that... but it doesn't see12:17
Trevinhom to go12:17
muktupavelsdoes lightdm executes your script?12:18
muktupavelsmaybe try same with x11 session?12:20
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mhall119willcooke: I've added a calendar event tomorrow at 1pm my time to talk about KDE snap work, if that's too late in your day let me know14:26
willcookemhall119, ah nice one, thanks14:26
jbichaLaney: do you want to sync appstream-glib from experimental?15:08
Laneycheck artful-changes15:08
Laneyhuh16:07
Laneygtk went straight in16:07
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Laneyunless someone else retried stuff16:07
jbichathat's a good thing, right?16:10
jbichaI didn't retry anything gtk16:10
Laneyof course it's a good thing16:10
Laneyit's also a surprising thing16:11
Laneywell I suppose the always faileds aren't that good16:11
Laneyaptdaemon, flatpak, gtk4, update-manager16:11
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Laneynight17:33
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oSoMoNnight17:43
willcookebleh,  calling it a day.  See you all tomorrow18:30
huggybear404 on ubuntu desktop 17.04 I search samba and realvnc not find under software ? remote desktop installed but vnc viewer fails connect, any tips ?21:07
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jbicharobert_ancell: good morning, did you see my ping yesterday about gnome-shell's locking with lightdm?21:35
robert_ancelljbicha, no, but I see it now..21:36
robert_ancelljbicha, don't you have commit access to the branches?21:36
jbicharobert_ancell: yes, I went ahead and pushed it into artful21:36
jbichaI was just curious if it looks right because I'd like to SRU it back to xenial21:37
robert_ancelljbicha, what does this._lightdmLoginSession() do?21:38
jbichahttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu-lightdm-user-switching.patch21:38
robert_ancelljbicha, oh, so that's the switch user button on the lock screen?21:40
jbichait's the lock button in gnome-shell's system status menu in the top right21:41
jbichawhen I used d-feet to run lightdm's Lock method, it looked like it gave me the same result as SwitchToGreeter so I just extended the gnome-shell patch that already called SwitchToGreeter21:43
robert_ancelljbicha, why not use the gnome-shell lock screen?21:44
jbichaI thought that depended on running gdm?21:44
jbichathe canLock line was what was keeping the lock button from showing when we were using lightdm21:45
robert_ancelljbicha, oh, right. I guess for now that's an OK solution. The long term is to make g-s use the lightdm interface (I have a patch in progress)21:46
jbichaare you ok with me SRUing this now then?21:46
robert_ancelljbicha, I don't see the value in SRUing it personally, because I'm not sure if there's many cases of people using g-s and LightDM in Xenial. But it's up to you.21:48
jbichaI think there are quite a few people on Ubuntu who are installing gnome-shell just to see what it's all about21:49
robert_ancelljbicha, does it matter to them if the lock works?21:50
jbichaI think I'm going to drop gnome-shell's dependency on gdm and SRU that21:50
jbichathose who install ubuntu-gnome-desktop will still get the annoying debconf question about whether they want to use gdm or lightdm with no context to know what is the right answer21:51
jbichabut at least those who only install gnome-shell can avoid that problem21:51
jbichayes, Ubuntu gets blamed if things like the lock button don't work, even if it's not completely Ubuntu's fault here21:52
robert_ancellDropping the dep definitely sounds useful.21:53
jbichayup, I dropped it in artful as part of the MIR already21:54
huggybear404does anyone know how to make desktop sharing or samba work on ubuntu 17 ?21:58

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