| jbicha | robert_ancell: did you see that gnome-software/zesty got stuck in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html | 01:00 |
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| robert_ancell | jbicha, should be fixed in bug 1689425 | 01:01 |
| ubot5 | bug 1689425 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Zesty) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:11:g_source_attach:debconf_accept_cb:socket_source_dispatch:g_main_dispatch:g_main_context_dispatch" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1689425 | 01:01 |
| jbicha | did you see that the current error in the phased-updates report is different than the one mentioned in that bug? | 01:02 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, no | 01:03 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, hmm, not sure if the last update triggered that one | 01:04 |
| jbicha | yeah, that's what I was wondering | 01:06 |
| jbicha | I liked phased-updates except when it's blocking an important update and I have to scratch my head to try to figure out what's not working | 01:07 |
| jbicha | we can ask bdmurray if he's willing to ignore that error? | 01:07 |
| jbicha | the phasing on webkit/xenial is funny, every other time it checks it pauses the rollout, but at least the % is still rising | 01:23 |
| jbicha | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 | 01:23 |
| duflu | Actually, tangentially, is there someone able to implement/consider enhancements/fixes to errors.ubuntu.com? | 01:24 |
| Trevinho | Morning duflu | 02:12 |
| duflu | Morning Trevinho. How's it going? | 02:15 |
| Trevinho | duflu: good... But last week of Bali it seems :-( | 02:16 |
| duflu | Trevinho, yeah end-of-holiday comedown is bad | 02:18 |
| duflu | Usually post-holiday | 02:18 |
| Trevinho | duflu: it's not holiday! 😂 | 02:18 |
| duflu | Although my definition of holiday is a time when you completely forget your job and how to do it... | 02:19 |
| Trevinho | The thing is that at this point I should have just spent more time in this area, maybe Australia too... But I'll do again in the future maybe. | 02:19 |
| Trevinho | And well, getting advantage of being remote in this way is just great | 02:20 |
| duflu | Trevinho: Nothing's happening down here. You missed nothing :) | 02:23 |
| Trevinho | duflu: I believe there's always something to feed your (mine, at least) curiosity anywhere you go | 02:24 |
| duflu | Trevinho: Did you get around the island much? | 02:26 |
| Trevinho | duflu: well... Just during weekends and national holidays, but I mostly all the things in my list. Just a few to scratch | 02:28 |
| duflu | Trevinho, I always wanted to see the volcanic lake(s), but never got there... | 02:35 |
| Trevinho | duflu: that's quite a cool hike | 02:36 |
| Trevinho | Quite busy, but the view is amazing | 02:36 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: can you review https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/revision/29 | 02:41 |
| jbicha | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu-lightdm-user-switching.patch | 02:42 |
| Trevinho | now that I'm leaving this coworking they've just upgraded the network to snappy-frendly speeds :-( | 04:27 |
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| jibel | good morning | 05:50 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning! | 07:43 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:00 |
| seb128 | I'm back! | 08:00 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN | 08:00 |
| jibel | Salut seb128 | 08:00 |
| didrocks | wb seb128, hey oSoMoN, salut jibel | 08:01 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, didrocks, jibel | 08:01 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, had a good holiday? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | hey jibel, welcome on board! | 08:02 |
| jibel | thanks | 08:02 |
| seb128 | re didrocks, hey willcooke | 08:02 |
| Laney | moin | 08:03 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:03 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, useful time off indeed | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:03 |
| willcooke | morning | 08:05 |
| willcooke | hi papa seb128 | 08:05 |
| seb128 | haha | 08:06 |
| Laney | hey didrocks hey seb128 hey willcooke! | 08:07 |
| Laney | how do? | 08:07 |
| willcooke | Having to put the light on today | 08:08 |
| willcooke | too dark in here | 08:08 |
| seb128 | it's nice&sunny here | 08:09 |
| Laney | so pleased | 08:09 |
| andyrock | morning | 08:44 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock, welcome to full time employment ;D | 08:50 |
| andyrock | thank :S | 09:00 |
| andyrock | :D | 09:00 |
| Trevinho | hi babbo seb128 !!! :-D | 09:12 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho | 09:13 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, sorry, saw your message the other day but it was a bit busy here and I forgot to reply | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, welcome on board as full time employee | 09:13 |
| Trevinho | seb128: no worries... I know the timing isn't the best for dealing with all the things ;-) | 09:13 |
| andyrock | seb128: thanks! | 09:13 |
| Trevinho | seb128: but I hope you're all fine! | 09:13 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, it is, thanks | 09:19 |
| Trevinho | Glad tohear | 09:19 |
| Trevinho | how is your sleep time? :D | 09:19 |
| seb128 | chaotic | 09:20 |
| seb128 | but it's ok, as a geek I know how to deal with that | 09:20 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:21 |
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| Trevinho | ehehe, sure... ;-) | 09:43 |
| andyrock | hey seb128, where is the code for the "Online Accounts" panel in System Settings | 10:14 |
| andyrock | there is nothing in unity-control-center/panels | 10:14 |
| seb128 | andyrock, talking Unity, not gnome right? | 10:24 |
| seb128 | andyrock, https://code.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center-signon | 10:26 |
| andyrock | thanks | 10:30 |
| Laney | right so | 10:35 |
| Laney | I've got Ken's pkg that turns off the Mir backend in GTK | 10:35 |
| Laney | 5 minutes to scream before I fire ze missiles | 10:35 |
| * willcooke gets under the desk | 10:36 | |
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| Laney | the only thing is that it removes some symbols | 10:45 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: when you've a sec, please publish this https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2760 | 10:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, willcooke, I guess we stop mir support for desktop usecases? | 10:45 |
| willcooke | seb128, yah | 10:45 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: looking | 10:45 |
| seb128 | k | 10:45 |
| Laney | seb128: I think they even want to SRU that | 10:45 |
| seb128 | why?! | 10:45 |
| seb128 | it's not like having an experimental gtk backend built in zesty would hurt anyone | 10:46 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: will the autopkgtests pass? I always preferred to have those available already | 10:46 |
| seb128 | I wouldn't bother | 10:46 |
| Laney | in xenial, not sure about other releases | 10:46 |
| seb128 | removing mir? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | or just gtkmir? | 10:46 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: well, nothing changed package side for that... But if you want feel free to wait | 10:46 |
| Laney | I think it's something like - deprecated/removed API, breaking projects -> remove them | 10:46 |
| Trevinho | Anyone here got GS running in wayland from jhbuild? :-) | 10:47 |
| Laney | don't know about GTK specifically, but other desktop things | 10:47 |
| seb128 | k | 10:47 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: I guess I won't wait, if it fails we'll see it on the main infra | 10:47 |
| Laney | Trevinho: Session, Shell, Software, Sudoku, Screensaver? | 10:49 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I've jhbuild here with installed most of things, no session as main one should be fine, nor screensaver... But my GS starts in X | 10:50 |
| Trevinho | I've also recompiled XWayland but for some reason that doesn't start | 10:50 |
| Laney | I'm saying that GS means like 10 things | 10:51 |
| Laney | do you mean gnome-shell? | 10:51 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ah, sure | 10:51 |
| Trevinho | As I'm looking at the point scaling these days | 10:52 |
| Laney | yeah sorry, no idea :P | 10:52 |
| Laney | probably #gnome-shell would be the place | 10:52 |
| Trevinho | yeah, I'm speaking with people from there... I was just wondering if someone here had an ubuntu setup for that. | 10:53 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ah I've also changed the theme as you liked more | 11:02 |
| Trevinho | only for those tho | 11:03 |
| Trevinho | (those buttons) | 11:03 |
| Laney | Trevinho: ok, feel free to publish | 11:04 |
| Laney | thanks! | 11:04 |
| Laney | ah wait | 11:05 |
| Trevinho | what? | 11:06 |
| Laney | https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/minheight.png | 11:06 |
| Laney | do you think the titlebar is too small there? | 11:07 |
| Laney | looks like a missing min-height | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | yeah... | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | It actually is defined | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | not sure why that happens :| | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | I've not a program to repropduce | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | or... yeah. I have | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | let me see | 11:07 |
| Laney | there's one :P | 11:07 |
| Trevinho | Laney: sure, but that is hard to get in my window :) | 11:08 |
| * Trevinho broke is GS | 11:09 | |
| Trevinho | how is that possible if I only touched jhbuild... mhmh | 11:09 |
| Trevinho | Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/messagedialog-minheight/+merge/324052 | 11:36 |
| Trevinho | not's are needed here | 11:36 |
| Laney | hahaha | 11:36 |
| Laney | of course they are | 11:36 |
| Laney | Trevinho loves the not | 11:36 |
| Trevinho | well, might not... but... still :) | 11:36 |
| Laney | Trevinho: got a screenshot? | 11:37 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ops... no... but just paste that in yours ctrl+shift+d/u | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | s/u/i/ | 11:38 |
| Laney | hmm | 11:38 |
| Laney | where can I get one easily? | 11:38 |
| Laney | a dialog | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | Laney: terminal has one when you try to close it but it has a child open | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | but... i think that was fine even before | 11:38 |
| Trevinho | Laney: make something crash :-D | 11:39 |
| Laney | why don't we set min-height on all titlebars? | 11:41 |
| Trevinho | Laney: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24580502/ | 11:43 |
| Laney | heh | 11:43 |
| Laney | you hax0r | 11:44 |
| Trevinho | Laney: real one would have said | 11:45 |
| Trevinho | python -c 'from gi.repository import Gtk; Gtk.MessageDialog().run()' | 11:45 |
| Trevinho | with some obfuscation :-D | 11:45 |
| Trevinho | as for the min height for all the widgets... Mhmh, even adwaita does some selection, I'd avoid it for now, unless we donèt | 11:46 |
| Trevinho | don't find something that doesn't work as we want | 11:46 |
| Laney | i'm annoyed by how complicated the theme is | 11:48 |
| jbicha | Laney: we could probably do gtk3 3.22.15 at the same time as the mir removal for artful | 11:57 |
| Laney | + [ Iain Lane ] | 11:58 |
| Laney | + * New upstream release 3.12.15 (also includes 14, 13). | 11:58 |
| jbicha | thanks | 12:00 |
| Trevinho | jbicha: hey, maybe you can help about the jhbuild + wayland session? | 12:04 |
| jbicha | Trevinho: I don't think you can directly use jhbuild to run GNOME Shell on Wayland | 12:05 |
| Trevinho | jbicha: I need to create a gdm instance, I know... | 12:06 |
| jbicha | you probably know more than me then! | 12:06 |
| jbicha | if I had to test something like that, I would just patch the distro package and install that | 12:07 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho: create script that will start your jhbuild session and then install session desktop file in /usr/share/wayland-sessions. then you can select that session from lightdm/gdm. | 12:10 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24580591/ | 12:11 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: basically it's what I've done... | 12:11 |
| Trevinho | mhmh | 12:11 |
| muktupavels | https://paste.ubuntu.com/24580593/ | 12:11 |
| Trevinho | mh, something different tho, let me see that | 12:11 |
| muktupavels | that is how I am starting sessions built in jhbuild, but I use lightdm and second seat for that. | 12:12 |
| jbicha | I've had trouble with gdm not giving me an option for new sessions until I restart gdm | 12:12 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: i'm with lightdm too now | 12:12 |
| Trevinho | jbicha: well, same is for lightdm... | 12:12 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: the fact that my jhbuild is only installed for the user is a problem? | 12:13 |
| muktupavels | only ligthdm + second seat + wayland has some problems. | 12:13 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: as I guess it should not... | 12:13 |
| Trevinho | but... | 12:13 |
| muktupavels | I dont know, just posted what I use and what works for me. | 12:14 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: mh, ok.... I don't get any debugging in journalctl tho | 12:15 |
| muktupavels | I also had to symlink some typlib files into prefix to get gnome-shell working | 12:15 |
| muktupavels | I have errors and debug messages in journalctl... | 12:16 |
| muktupavels | try to add --debug to gnome-session? | 12:17 |
| Trevinho | yeah, tried that... but it doesn't see | 12:17 |
| Trevinho | m to go | 12:17 |
| muktupavels | does lightdm executes your script? | 12:18 |
| muktupavels | maybe try same with x11 session? | 12:20 |
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| mhall119 | willcooke: I've added a calendar event tomorrow at 1pm my time to talk about KDE snap work, if that's too late in your day let me know | 14:26 |
| willcooke | mhall119, ah nice one, thanks | 14:26 |
| jbicha | Laney: do you want to sync appstream-glib from experimental? | 15:08 |
| Laney | check artful-changes | 15:08 |
| Laney | huh | 16:07 |
| Laney | gtk went straight in | 16:07 |
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| Laney | unless someone else retried stuff | 16:07 |
| jbicha | that's a good thing, right? | 16:10 |
| jbicha | I didn't retry anything gtk | 16:10 |
| Laney | of course it's a good thing | 16:10 |
| Laney | it's also a surprising thing | 16:11 |
| Laney | well I suppose the always faileds aren't that good | 16:11 |
| Laney | aptdaemon, flatpak, gtk4, update-manager | 16:11 |
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| Laney | night | 17:33 |
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| oSoMoN | night | 17:43 |
| willcooke | bleh, calling it a day. See you all tomorrow | 18:30 |
| huggybear404 | on ubuntu desktop 17.04 I search samba and realvnc not find under software ? remote desktop installed but vnc viewer fails connect, any tips ? | 21:07 |
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| jbicha | robert_ancell: good morning, did you see my ping yesterday about gnome-shell's locking with lightdm? | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, no, but I see it now.. | 21:36 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, don't you have commit access to the branches? | 21:36 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: yes, I went ahead and pushed it into artful | 21:36 |
| jbicha | I was just curious if it looks right because I'd like to SRU it back to xenial | 21:37 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, what does this._lightdmLoginSession() do? | 21:38 |
| jbicha | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/ubuntu-lightdm-user-switching.patch | 21:38 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, oh, so that's the switch user button on the lock screen? | 21:40 |
| jbicha | it's the lock button in gnome-shell's system status menu in the top right | 21:41 |
| jbicha | when I used d-feet to run lightdm's Lock method, it looked like it gave me the same result as SwitchToGreeter so I just extended the gnome-shell patch that already called SwitchToGreeter | 21:43 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, why not use the gnome-shell lock screen? | 21:44 |
| jbicha | I thought that depended on running gdm? | 21:44 |
| jbicha | the canLock line was what was keeping the lock button from showing when we were using lightdm | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, oh, right. I guess for now that's an OK solution. The long term is to make g-s use the lightdm interface (I have a patch in progress) | 21:46 |
| jbicha | are you ok with me SRUing this now then? | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, I don't see the value in SRUing it personally, because I'm not sure if there's many cases of people using g-s and LightDM in Xenial. But it's up to you. | 21:48 |
| jbicha | I think there are quite a few people on Ubuntu who are installing gnome-shell just to see what it's all about | 21:49 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, does it matter to them if the lock works? | 21:50 |
| jbicha | I think I'm going to drop gnome-shell's dependency on gdm and SRU that | 21:50 |
| jbicha | those who install ubuntu-gnome-desktop will still get the annoying debconf question about whether they want to use gdm or lightdm with no context to know what is the right answer | 21:51 |
| jbicha | but at least those who only install gnome-shell can avoid that problem | 21:51 |
| jbicha | yes, Ubuntu gets blamed if things like the lock button don't work, even if it's not completely Ubuntu's fault here | 21:52 |
| robert_ancell | Dropping the dep definitely sounds useful. | 21:53 |
| jbicha | yup, I dropped it in artful as part of the MIR already | 21:54 |
| huggybear404 | does anyone know how to make desktop sharing or samba work on ubuntu 17 ? | 21:58 |
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