[00:00] <coppz> yup im lost already with that haha. Just gonna have to wait till tomorrow ill go over to a mate or something already running windows and get him to mount it. You'd honestly think this would be a standard thing
[00:00] <hanspansen> whats the "easiest" way to set up a connection where a client redirects all its traffic to a first server, which also redirects automatically all the clients traffic to server2 which connects to server3 and then to the destination (so like Tor does).
[00:00] <akik_> coppz: you just set the variables and then run the commands one by one
[00:01] <coppz> I don't even know what that means man. Thanks for all the help, but I have no idea what i'm at. Im not that good of a Linux user.
[00:08] <texla> Ubuntu-16.04.2 I downloaded a 998 mb file from Source Forge using Firefox it indicates that in library that it completed downloading searching downloads etc does not produce a file.Searching from files opens the window where downloads resides. Where has my file gone!!!
[00:09] <Jakethepython1> I think that fixed the artifcacting problem..one other problem i am having is palm detection seems sectchy sometimes it works othertimes i start typing in random places
[00:09] <Komputerfreak> hanspansen the easiest thing would probably be to just forward the traffic
[00:09] <Komputerfreak> if you want encryption openvpn or another similiar client might be interesting
[00:10] <ChaiTRex> texla: Try Ctrl+J in Firefox to open the Downloaded files window.
[00:10] <Komputerfreak> however, if you want onion routing (what tor does), this is still a little different
[00:10] <ChaiTRex> texla: Or Ctrl+Shift+Y
[00:11] <ChaiTRex> texla: Also, see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/where-find-and-manage-downloaded-files-firefox
[00:13] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, Er...how'd you end up fixing the graphics issue?
[00:14] <Jakethepython1> turning off the animations seemed to make graphics not artifact in crhome maybe it was conicidence?
[00:14] <hanspansen> Komputerfreak, how do i "just" forward the traffic (encryption would be a second step)
[00:15] <Jakethepython1> thepalm detection is driving me nuts though
[00:15] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, I'd not think so - in some instances the "compositing" - the animations and all the eye-candy - will cause the window manager/desktop to do that with particular graphics cards...HOWEVER, as previous girlfriends have pointed out - I could be more than wrong.
[00:16] <Jakethepython1> hahahaha :)
[00:16] <Jakethepython1> they are very good at poingint out when we're wrong..but never admiting when we're right:)
[00:17] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, So you say "palm detection" - fingerprint? Touchsense?
[00:19] <Jakethepython1>  if im typing and my hand gets close to my touchpad it clicks and goes somewhere else
[00:20] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, AH...right...now I know what you mean...never had to deal with that...but I understand. I can only wish you luck on that one, my friend.
[00:21] <croz> ikonia YankDownUnder would this run ubuntu just fine? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSBUDPI/ref=psdc_13896615011_t1_B016E81DOI
[00:22] <ikonia> croz: we can't vet every laptop, research the chipsets, with specific attention to the video cards and wireless cards as I suggested
[00:25] <croz> ikonia what about the fingerprint reader? could u point me in a good direction
[00:25] <texla> ChaiTRex, All these command produce excellent read but unfortunate none retrieve the lost file
[00:26] <ikonia> croz: you need to look at the devices you want, the chipsets they use, the linux support/what versions of the kernel that support comes in then map that back to the distro you want to use
[00:26] <YankDownUnder> croz, Looks nice, requires research  into the actual chipsets - as per what ikonia was advising...but first glance? Looks nice...(gimme all your 17" unused machines!) ;)
[00:27] <fspoon> Morning. I've had my ntp service on 16.04 attempt to contact some bad IP addresses associated with wannacry via the ntp.ubuntu.com pool. NFI where to report something like that
[00:28] <ikonia> fspoon: there are bad i's in the ubuntu.com ntp pool ?
[00:28] <ChaiTRex> texla: If it doesn't show up in the downloads window of Firefox (in which case, you can click on the little folder icon on that file), it might have failed in such a way that nothing was left as a file.
[00:29] <ChaiTRex> texla: You can handle broken connections and so on with: /usr/bin/wget -c -t 0 --timeout=60 --waitretry=60 "URL"
[00:30] <ChaiTRex> texla: That will reconnect and retry from where it failed until it gets the whole file.
[00:30] <texla> ChaiTRex, The small icon will not open anything so the assumption is the file did not download ??
[00:31] <ikonia> fspoon: what is the NTP FQDN you are using ?
[00:31] <wrenny> is there a Ubuntu Live CD that already has the extended tools pre-installed rdy to go as a live CD?
[00:31] <ikonia> extended tools ?
[00:32] <wrenny> well all the junk that has to be updated once installed
[00:32] <fspoon> ikonia: I think so? ntpq -p gives me: {0,1,2,3}.ubuntu.pool.n fro ntp.ubuntu.com
[00:32] <ikonia> wrenny: what ?
[00:32] <ChaiTRex> texla: That would be my first guess.
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow__> !aptoncd
[00:32] <wrenny> forgot the name of the pack that has to be installed
[00:33] <ikonia> wrenny: what's the fqdn for the host you are using for your ntp sync
[00:33] <wrenny> just something done and rdy
[00:33] <ikonia> wrenny: you're not making sense
[00:33] <wrenny> as a live cd
[00:33] <texla> ChaiTRex, Thanks for the help now I feel the same
[00:33] <ikonia> wrenny: the official livecd's are hosted/detailed on ubuntu.com
[00:34] <croz> actually why am i stressing? this macbook pro will probably have complete linux support in a few months, right?
[00:34] <ikonia> croz: no idea,
[00:34] <fspoon> ikonia: In my syslog I get - localhost ntpd[19405]: Soliciting pool server xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[00:34] <croz> in december nothing was pretty much supported. now just the bluetooth, wifi, and audio are the issues.
[00:34] <fspoon> ikonia: which I read as it was told via ubuntu's pool to contact the particular address?
[00:34] <ikonia> fspoon: ...so again, what is the FQDN of hosts you are using to sync your time from
[00:34] <wrenny> I thought there was a different LIVE CD that already had most stuff kinda pre-installed
[00:35] <ikonia> wrenny: no
[00:35] <wrenny> or maybe some people made something more advanced
[00:36] <wrenny> something you can pop into a machine and rdy to go
[00:36] <ikonia> wrenny: the livecd is ready to go
[00:36] <fspoon> ikonia: oh sorry I misunderstood, it's on aws in a private VPC, proxied through servers which I don't have access to. Not entirely sure?
[00:36] <ikonia> you're not explaining why its not
[00:36] <ikonia> fspoon: let me try again, in your ntp.conf you specify the hosts you want to sync time from, what is the hosts you are trying to sync time from
[00:36] <wrenny> typical Live CDs you still have to do the big pack install
[00:36] <DocMAX> ikonia, still compiling (43%)
[00:36] <fspoon> right
[00:37] <ikonia> DocMAX: seems very slow
[00:37] <wrenny> just to make the OS useable as a live cd
[00:37] <ikonia> wrenny: the livecd is totally usable
[00:37] <wrenny> what's that big pack called
[00:37] <fspoon> ikonia: ntp.ubuntu.com
[00:37] <ikonia> wrenny: there is no big pack
[00:37] <wrenny> sessions
[00:37] <wrenny> can't remember the name
[00:38] <ikonia> "sessions" ?
[00:38] <wrenny> something like that
[00:38] <ikonia> fspoon: the IP you stated doens't appear in the ubuntu pool
[00:38] <wrenny> or has something changed since like a yr ago
[00:38] <ikonia> wrenny: no, you're just not making any sense
[00:38] <pynki> big pack?
[00:38] <ikonia> how is it not usable ?
[00:38] <ikonia> what's missing for you
[00:39] <wrenny> ubuntu is barely usable as a live cd till you install a bunch of stuff
[00:39] <fspoon> ikonia: ok cool, my ntp service contacted it at May 10th, 08:05:16 AEST, figured I'd better report it somewhere
[00:39] <pynki> wrenny: that totally depends on what you want to do!
[00:40] <ikonia> fspoon: the ubuntu ones certainly didn't
[00:40] <ikonia> fspoon: I'd look at your local conifgs,
[00:40] <Drecondius> Quick question, do I need to enable multiverse for steam cmd
[00:41] <pynki> Drecondius, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/install-steam-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[00:41] <fspoon> ikonia: msgd `ntpq -p`
[00:41] <wrenny> just for the graphics to look right is a pain
[00:41] <pynki> wrenny... look right? thats totally subjective
[00:41] <Drecondius> Not steam but steam cmd, already have the client installed.
[00:42] <ikonia> fspoon: thats a differnt FQDN than the one you gave earlier
[00:42] <ikonia> you said you where using ntp.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <ikonia> you're actually using the pool's which I think are managed by ntp.org and just aliased (I'd have to look)
[00:43] <pynki> Drecondius, on my server install i can find it without problems with apt-cache search streamcmd
[00:43] <fspoon> ikonia: ahh that'll teach me to not copy paste, thanks
[00:43] <pynki> 16.04
[00:43] <ikonia> fspoon: no problem
[00:46] <pynki> Drecondius, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24578128 thats my sources.list
[00:47] <pynki> and yes - to finally answer your question (i read it wrong): yes you have to enable multiverse
[00:48] <pynki> !info streamcmd | Drecondius
[00:48] <pynki> !info steamcmd | Drecondius
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Does do-release-upgrade (in my case from 16.10 to 17.04) automatically create a snapshot before upgrading when the root filesystem is btrfs?
[01:11] <pynki> Jordan_U, the net recommends that you take your own snapshots of the whole machine before doing an release update
[01:12] <hylian> hello
[01:12] <pynki> Jordan_U, but do-release-upgrade shoudl do a snapshot too
[01:12] <pynki> if your filesys is btrfs
[01:16] <sortiox> join #hackerrank
[01:17] <bazhang> sortiox, /join
[01:22] <Jordan_U> pynki: Thanks.
[01:22] <pynki> WELCOME
[01:23] <pynki> is there a possibility to show the entered password on the splash screen for encrypted root partitions as plain text and not ********... ?
[01:35] <mojtaba> hello, can I ask a question about networking?
[01:36] <bazhang> ##networking too mojtaba
[02:00] <bobdobbs> I'm getting sick of Filezilla's crap. What is a decent alternative for an sftp/ftp client?
[02:00] <bobdobbs> First thing I tried was gftp, but the settings I need are either non-existent or hidden away somewhere
[02:01] <Aginor> bobdobbs: lftp if you're happy with a console client
[02:01] <pynki> sftp itself is decent
[02:01] <bobdobbs> Filezilla on ubuntu constantly freezes and sometimes the inputs are inaccessible. I've had these issues from ubuntu 12.something
[02:02] <bobdobbs> Aginor: I'm comfortable with ssh from the commandline. But sometimes I need a gui for things like file transfers
[02:02] <bobdobbs> also, bookmarking. I don't like the commandline clients for their versions of bookmarking
[02:04] <El_Doctor> hi
[02:05] <toresbe> hey guys, I was hoping I might get some help with a server that is refusing to boot after a release upgrade from 12.x to 14.04.5
[02:05] <El_Doctor> Is it normal that this happen? http://imgur.com/a/RHfYx when i try to use ubuntu?
[02:06] <toresbe> It's looping over "mdadm: CREATE user root not found" "mdadm: CREATE group disk not found"
[02:07] <toresbe> I've tried every possible permutation of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf that might improve my odds but so far no luck. Before that I get an interesting error message, "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured"
[02:08] <toresbe> Does anyone have any experiences with anything comparable?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | El_Doctor
[02:11] <pynki> El_Doctor, https://grumpymole.blogspot.hk/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html this one might help you too to edit the grub
[02:12] <El_Doctor> i need to go in my usb key files?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> El_Doctor: no, initially from grub you you will pass a boot parameter to the kernel .
[02:13] <genii> pynki: That won't help, it's for menu.lst which is GRUB 1 and not GRUB 2 which needs editing of /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[02:15] <pynki> genii, the "on the fly" option should work. you edit you grub entries without trying them before?
[02:15] <El_Doctor> pressed escape so for now i have many options like help,language etc.
[02:15] <El_Doctor> is it in that?
[02:16] <genii> pynki: The one-time way to add to current kernel line is same across both GRUB. But if they follow the instructions after that, it will just make a grub.lst file which is useless for GRUB 2
[02:17] <Bashing-om> El_Doctor: This booting the installer or in the actual install ?
[02:18] <genii> pynki: You should probably scan over instructions found by googling before recommending someone uses them
[02:19] <El_Doctor> well i put my usb key in the computer and booted then pressed esc
[02:20] <pynki> genii, its year old bookmark ;)
[02:21] <genii> pynki: Ubuntu has been on GRUB2 for far longer than that :)
[02:21] <pynki> and i didn't say: use it! i said it might help adding things to the kernel boot aprams. if someone is doing that i hope he is expirienced enogh to see that this does not fit his system!
[02:22] <Bashing-om> El_Doctor: at the language screen press escape again -> boot options screen -> F6 key . in the pop up choose 'nomodeset ' . space-bar to select , tab to OK, enter to accept.
[02:22] <pynki> genii, really? when was the 2.0 release date?
[02:22] <El_Doctor> ok thx
[02:23] <pynki> genii, 9.10 had grub2 first...
[02:23] <El_Doctor> frequency not supported
[02:23] <El_Doctor> again
[02:24] <pynki> but we are going offtopic genii ;)
[02:25] <El_Doctor> did what you said guys and still get frequency not supported
[02:25] <genii> El_Doctor: You might be using some video adapter like DVI to VGA which makes it impossible for Ubuntu to obtain information about your monitor and set the correct refresh rate
[02:25] <El_Doctor> yes i use one indeed
[02:25] <El_Doctor> well its mini dp to VGA
[02:26] <genii> El_Doctor: Yes, that will create the same problem.
[02:26] <El_Doctor> well then what should i do?
[02:29] <genii> El_Doctor: You can try setting VGA=### where ### is a resolution supported by your monitor, from the table found here: http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[02:29] <genii> El_Doctor: Added the same way to tkernel line as you just tried with nomodeset
[02:30] <El_Doctor> dammit and at the origin all i wanted to do is test if my problem was hardware or software
[02:31] <El_Doctor> how i add that setting?
[02:31] <genii> El_Doctor: The VESA driver that VGA=### uses usually sets the refresh rate to something sane like 60
[02:32] <genii> El_Doctor: Use the same method you just did with nomodeset, but instead add the VGA= instead
[02:32] <virender> cant use caja drop box. it does not open
[02:33] <El_Doctor> http://imgur.com/a/uVNpk where i click?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> El_Doctor: Press escape once then type "vga=789" (without the quotes) then press Enter.
[02:36] <genii> El_Doctor: At the end of where you see it says under that window the kernel loading line. You can just make out where it's saying "casper" there as part of it.
[02:36] <El_Doctor> text mode interface?
[02:36] <genii> Jordan_U: Or that
[02:37] <ekaj> I was looking for an iTunes replacement for Ubuntu and someone suggested Amorak.. I've seen it in a few places, does it work pretty well?
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> ekaj: clementine seems a very good alternate
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> !info clementine | ekaj
[02:39] <ekaj> thank you
[02:40] <El_Doctor> so is it text mode interface or not?
[02:40] <Arq> ?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> El_Doctor: Just above the options pop up. there should be a kernel boot line where you can append the vga=XXXX option .
[02:44] <virender> cant use caja drop box. it does not open
[02:44] <El_Doctor> Kernel boot line where?
[02:44] <El_Doctor> nvm
[02:45] <El_Doctor> wth i enter VGA=789 then it launch a mem test
[02:45] <roobi> Anyone figured out brightness control for macbook 11,5 (ubuntu 17.04 ~w/ radeon)
[02:45] <roobi> ?
[02:46] <El_Doctor> now it try to launch my windows
[02:47] <El_Doctor> but then again my windows is completely bugged and will fail
[02:48] <El_Doctor> maybe got it finally
[02:48] <ermac> Hola Doctor que te pasa
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> !es | ermac
[02:49] <El_Doctor> sorry i don't speak spanish
[02:49] <ermac> ok
[02:51] <El_Doctor> finally it booted
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !yay | El_Doctor
[02:52] <El_Doctor> now how do i know if my hardware fail?
[02:52] <El_Doctor> DrDoofenshmirtz told me to use bootable ubuntu to test my hardware
[03:00] <SierraKomodo> Anybody here that can help troubleshoot issues with ubuntu desktop 16.04 not connecting to any wireless networks? The wireless networks show up on the list, and I've made sure the password is correct. The windows laptop I have next to the ubuntu laptop is able to connect without a problem, but the ubuntu one just says 'Disconnected - you are now offline- after a few minutes of trying to conenct
[03:03] <ekaj> SierraKomodo: have you tried to disable and then re-enable the interface?
[03:05] <SierraKomodo> Didn't try that, give me a moment to figure out the interface name for the wireless adaptor
[03:06] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomodo: ifconfig ?
[03:07] <SierraKomodo> ifconfig's only showing me two connections labelled 'ethernet' and a local loopback... Which is weird, this laptop only has a single ethernet adaptor. enp1s0 and wlp2s0; I'm used to seeing eth0 and wlan0..
[03:08] <zorbs0ne> the naming standards may have changed, wlp2s0 is wlan
[03:09] <zorbs0ne> standards/schemes.
[03:09] <SierraKomodo> Gonig to be honest and say I'm far from an expert with ubuntu and want to make sure - The command to disable and re-enable the interface would be 'sudo ip link set down wlp2s0' and 'sudo ip link set up wlp2s0' correct?
[03:10] <zorbs0ne> just down and up isn't it? i don't remember.
[03:10] <zorbs0ne> ifdown
[03:10] <zorbs0ne> ifdown <interfacE>
[03:11] <pynkii> this will only work if you do not manage the interface with the NetworkManager
[03:11] <pynkii> i think
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> SierraKomodo, inxi -Nn  | pastebin     Provide link    for networking info share
[03:11] <zorbs0ne> I had problems with my wifi before in Ubuntu.
[03:11] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: Well, that gave me this response: 'Unknown interface wlp2s0'
[03:11] <zorbs0ne> I ended up installing a console wifi program.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow__> [astebinit
[03:11] <zorbs0ne> and going about it that way.
[03:12] <zorbs0ne> pastebin me your ifconfig, SierraKomodo.
[03:12] <pynkii> SierraKomodo, inxi -Nn  | pastebinit          is what Jack_Sparrow__ wanted to say
[03:12] <SierraKomodo> This laptop doesn't have a working internet connection and I don't have a spare ethernet cable so I'll have to manually copy the response
[03:12] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomobo: ah k
[03:13] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomodo: You know your wifi card for this laptop is supported?
[03:14] <pynkii> SierraKomodo, do you have a smartphone? can that phone host a hotpot? would be interesting to figure out if you can conenct to that network or not
[03:14] <SierraKomodo> I believe so, it /was/ working fine about 4 months ago when I last used this laptop
[03:14] <SierraKomodo> pynkii: I'll give that a try
[03:14] <curly_brace> question -> chmod -R 755 directory = will set this directory on a strict permission?
[03:14] <curly_brace> correct?
[03:15] <zorbs0ne> curly_brace: man chmod
[03:16] <SierraKomodo> It connects to the phone's hotspot without a problem
[03:17] <pynkii> curly_brace, whats a strict permission? it will set rwxr-xr-x. read0write-execute for the owner, read and execute for everyone else. and that recursively because of the -R
[03:17] <pynkii> SierraKomodo, can you tun if 802.11n on your router?
[03:18] <pynkii> just to give that a shot?
[03:18] <SierraKomodo> tun if? Do you mean turn off?
[03:18] <zorbs0ne> curly_brace: best to consult your manual..
[03:18] <pynkii> i do, sry
[03:19] <SierraKomodo> One sec, getting the pastebin of those two commands first
[03:19] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomodo: How are you connecting to the internet, a router/modem ?
[03:20] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: One of those comcast xfinity router/modem combos
[03:20] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: https://zerobin.net/?bf32db268f7349eb#fKZTKFW5QELkLe9aB53GwAqjqpL9O9LAgs1AKc5jbyU= <-- ifconfig
[03:21] <zorbs0ne> sometimes my laptop never 'turned on' the wifi card.
[03:21] <SierraKomodo> pynkii Jack_Sparrow__ - inxi isn't isntalled when I try to run that command, it says
[03:21] <zorbs0ne> is it 5g, too?
[03:22] <SierraKomodo> It broadcasts a 5ghz and 2.4ghz network (So two separate SSIDs/wireless networks), if that's what you meant
[03:22] <SierraKomodo> It used to work with the 2.4ghz network a few months back
[03:23] <zorbs0ne> I had good luck with that cli app.
[03:23] <zorbs0ne> then, I tinkered with network man.
[03:24] <SierraKomodo> Well, it's been awhile since I booted this thing and it has a metric buttload of updates pending. I'll run those off the hotspot, then try turning off 802.11n
[03:24] <curly_brace> so how do i set a directory, so that other users can't access them?
[03:25] <curly_brace> i am only a shell users
[03:25] <curly_brace> user*
[03:25] <zorbs0ne> curly_brace: https://www.linux.org/threads/file-permissions-chmod.4124/
[03:31] <CodeMasterCM> what is file browser/image viewer, on linux that allows multiply tabs being used. I need alternative to Linux Thunar file browser on windows so that im able to see multiply folders in multiply tabs, and preferably with ability to have multiply views of directorys as well
[03:31] <curly_brace> so if other users tries to chmod my directory, is it possible?
[03:31] <curly_brace> like chmod +x <mydirectory>
[03:33] <zorbs0ne> read that website at the bottom.
[03:35] <johefernan> How do I change bind9 default 53 port
[03:41] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomodo: what's term say when you
[03:41] <zorbs0ne> sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 up
[03:42] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: It's still running the update command
[03:43] <SemiNus> hi!
[03:43] <SemiNus> question: What is the best way, to convert a picture (taken with a camera) to text?
[03:44] <SemiNus> I have a document that I would like to take a photo of with a high quality smartphone camera (samsung galaxy S7)
[03:44] <zorbs0ne> like ascii ?
[03:44] <SemiNus> zorbs0ne, no, real text
[03:44] <vaer-k> I think he's asking about ocr
[03:44] <SemiNus> vaer-k, yes
[03:45] <SemiNus> I found a german article about some software but I don't know which one to go with
[03:45] <SemiNus> before trying all of them, maybe someone of you can recommend one of them
[03:45] <SemiNus> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Texterkennung/
[03:45] <SemiNus> ^ german
[03:45] <SemiNus> but the bold titles are the names of the various software packages
[03:45] <Ybu> How to uninstall ubuntu and grub on dual boot with windows XP?
[03:46] <vaer-k> I don't know any ocr programs to recommend
[03:46] <zorbs0ne> Ybu: I think you'd have to reinstall another operating system to overright the boot record.
[03:46] <zorbs0ne> overwrite.
[03:46] <zorbs0ne> Sierra: brb.
[03:46] <pynkii> the ubuntu installer recognized passwords on hdd's (sda2 / and sdb1 /home) that are equal for two partitions?
[03:46] <Ybu> I have been seeing this EasyBCD and I think has the ability tot overwrite MBR's
[03:47] <pynkii> Ybu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[03:48] <pynkii> btu stay away from XP...
[03:49] <k> hi
[03:49] <Ybu> I haven;t finished downloading win7 since under some reason, my PC doesn't seem tto be compatible with win10
[03:49] <pynkii> and again - read your question wrong. Ybu. do a resinatll
[03:52] <Guest35387> anyone here?
[03:52] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: Running 'sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 up' didn't provide any output
[03:53] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: Desktop's rebooting for an update so I'll be on the other laptop
[03:53] <zorbs0ne> SierraKomodo: iwconfig
[03:53] <zorbs0ne> k
[03:54] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: So iwconfig wlp2s0 up?
[03:54] <zorbs0ne> SV: that should turn the int up.
[03:54] <zorbs0ne> err on.
[03:54] <zorbs0ne> it'
[03:54] <zorbs0ne> i'm trying to find that app i used to just cli connect to my wifi nets.
[03:54] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: iwconfig: unknown command "up"
[03:55] <zorbs0ne>                                                  │
[03:56] <zorbs0ne> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[03:56] <SierraVaio> Any complaints if I prefer vim? :P
[03:56] <SierraVaio> Anyway, got the file open
[03:56] <zorbs0ne> nope.
[03:56] <SierraVaio> The only entries are 'auto lo' and 'iface lo net loopback'
[03:58] <zorbs0ne> sierravaio: $iw dev
[03:59] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: Is that a command to run or an entry to add to network/interfaces?
[03:59] <zorbs0ne> cmd
[04:03] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: No command 'dev' found
[04:03] <zorbs0ne> SierraVaio: you've made sure that you have the hot key for the wifi on? you've typed "ifconfig wlp2s0" right? I am lookign for that app now.
[04:03] <SierraVaio> You know.. i think I have a linksys switch buried in a box somewhere
[04:04] <SierraVaio> Not sure what you mean by hotkey for the wifi on. I do know the wifi adaptor is enabled, as it's connecting to the phone's hotspot
[04:05] <TheFocus> afternoon.  Any idea why ubuntu client wont boot after upgrade in virtualbox???  It keeps flicking between resolutions and TTY1 wont stay on CLI?  Any ideas or logs?
[04:05] <zorbs0ne> try wicd siuerra.
[04:06] <SierraVaio> Program isn't currently installed, it recommends installing wicd-daemon
[04:06] <zorbs0ne> sudo apt-get install wicd-curses
[04:06] <zorbs0ne> sudo wicd-curses
[04:10] <SierraVaio> https://zerobin.net/?68347fb7cf390160#wg6PGZT9OCZy7MD2gsMhR66d0n5XJMdOnmaq6bFlGlE=
[04:11] <SierraVaio> zorbs0ne: Dumped errors on me
[04:12] <zorbs0ne> can I see the errors?
[04:13] <SierraVaio> See the zerobin link I sent: https://zerobin.net/?68347fb7cf390160#wg6PGZT9OCZy7MD2gsMhR66d0n5XJMdOnmaq6bFlGlE=
[04:13] <zorbs0ne> ah k
[04:13] <zorbs0ne> u on gnome?
[04:13] <zorbs0ne> netman is gnome.
[04:14] <zorbs0ne> hmmmm, idk man, you could try running "wicd-client"
[04:14] <zorbs0ne> hang on let me boot a virtual machine
[04:15] <zorbs0ne> what version of ubuntu are you running
[04:16] <SierraKomodo> zorbs0ne: 16.04, on a Lenovo Thinkpad E545
[04:16] <SierraKomodo> It was isntalled using the 16.04 Ubuntu Desktop ISO
[04:16] <SierraKomodo> Installed*
[04:21] <zorbs0ne> what's lspci's output
[04:22] <SierraKomodo> Quite a bit of stuff, and my phone's hotspot just shut off because the battery died. XD
[04:45] <sirru5h> Howdy Everyone
[04:58] <curly_brace> question how do i fix the issue regarding about this one
[04:58] <curly_brace> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:58] <curly_brace> i am having that problem, each time i am installing new application on the system
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow__> curly_brace, add a few repos manually?
[05:00] <curly_brace> how do i do that?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow__> I was thinking you did already instakk from outside repos.  Did you perhaps interrupt an update?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow__> https://askubuntu.com/questions/855359/sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-when-updating-installing-app
[05:03] <curly_brace> ok ill try this one first
[05:04] <curly_brace> i think i have interrupt an update, hence last time i had updated my system with a weak internet connection.
[05:09] <curly_brace> what does sudo apt-get install -f means?
[05:10] <curly_brace> what does option -f means?
[05:12] <croz> Does a touchscreen laptop, like the Dell XPS Developer Edition, work well?
[05:18] <genii> curly_brace: -f or --fix-broken for the long form.
[05:18] <konrados> Hi. How is this called - I want my ubuntu (with kde fwiw), after x minutes of inactivity, to do the XYZ (this is the term I'm looking for) after which it will require a password to re-enter the desktop. I know it isn't "logout"
[05:18] <curly_brace> ok
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> croz: ubuntu-desktop support touchscreens
[05:19] <curly_brace> genii, sudo apt-get upgrade -all <- does this option will change current system, for example ubuntu 16.0.1
[05:19] <curly_brace> to 16.0.2
[05:19] <genii> curly_brace: No
[05:20] <curly_brace> how do i do that, upgrading the system from 16.04.1 to 16.04.2?
[05:20] <genii> curly_brace: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <croz> thanks lotuspsychje
[05:20] <curly_brace> ph
[05:20] <curly_brace> oh
[05:20] <croz> anyone know if this laptop supports ubuntu http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-ws63-7rk-280us.html
[05:20] <genii> curly_brace: After you do: sudo apt update  ...to get the latest list of application versions
[05:21] <curly_brace> ok copy
[05:21] <curly_brace> thanks
[05:21] <curly_brace> so that will change 16.04.1 to 16.04.2?
[05:22] <genii> curly_brace: Yes, assuming no errors due to PPAs or other non-standard things are encountered
[05:22] <arosen> anyone familar with debootstrap?
[05:22] <curly_brace> not just bootsrap?
[05:23] <curly_brace> genii, thanks
[05:23] <pynki> croz, https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[05:23] <genii> curly_brace: You're welcome
[05:24] <arosen> curly_brace: well here's what i'm trying to do. I have a server that i can programmically reinstall it's base image.   This server has an empty /dev/sda4 partition with a lot of space. I'm trying to install ubuntu on /dev/sda4 and then reboot the server to boot of of that.
[05:24] <renmindemingyi> 在吗？
[05:24] <arosen> I've been trying to use this: https://videonauth.dyndns.org/index.php/2016/05/26/tutorial-how-to-install-ubuntu-and-other-debian-based-distributions-via-debootstrap/
[05:24] <croz> pynki thanks but that list isn't really accurate since there's other laptops that work and also ship with ubuntu?
[05:25] <arosen> curly_brace:  is there another tool you recommennd?
[05:25] <konrados> ok, nvm, I found it: it's screen lock.
[05:25] <pynki> croz, thats whats "certified" to work with ubuntu - everything else might have to been checked component by component
[05:26] <renmindemingyi> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
[05:27] <genii> !cn | renmindemingyi
[05:27] <curly_brace> arosen, not actually, i am not familiar with debootsrap
[05:27] <renmindemingyi> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:27] <curly_brace> i thought what you mean is bootsrap, a web add-on which is composed of css and javascript
[05:27] <genii> renmindemingyi: /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:27] <pynki> '/join
[05:29] <philopotamus> m
[05:29] <philopotamus> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:29] <philopotamus> hrm
[05:30] <philopotamus> hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:30] <genii> arosen: What part of the instructions there are problemmatic?
[05:30] <philopotamus> mmrmrm
[05:31] <arosen> genii: i can't seem to get the grub setup correct. Each time i reboot it still is booting from /dev/sda1
[05:31] <arosen> i want it to boot the setup i just installed on /dev/sda4
[05:31] <arosen> i set GRUB_DEFAULT=6 in /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub
[05:31] <genii> arosen: Whats on sda1? Another ubuntu or debian?
[05:31] <arosen> but it's still booting /dev/sda1
[05:32] <arosen> another ubuntu.
[05:33] <curly_brace> excuse me, so  here is where my problem goes
[05:33] <curly_brace> in a package runit
[05:33] <curly_brace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24579201/
[05:33] <genii> arosen: So you should run the update-grub from that one, it will find the install on sda4 and add it to the list. Then choose it from the grub menu, boot to that, and grub-install again from that one
[05:33] <curly_brace> where i tried to install but still have a problem with upstart
[05:33] <curly_brace> which i couldnt connect
[05:34] <genii> curly_brace: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:34] <arosen> genii: only issue is i don't have console access to the machine to do that.
[05:34] <arosen> so i need to update the configs so it can successfully boot to /dev/sda4 when i reboot the box.
[05:34] <arosen> i can programmically reinstall it so it's not a big issue to get multiple shots at it.
[05:35] <genii> arosen: Ah, yes. Slightly more problemmatic.
[05:35] <curly_brace> genii, i tried it too
[05:35] <podosfero> hello, can someone with an ntfs partition check if this command 'ntfs-3g -o windows_names' works, please? the windows_names option is always ignored for some reason, i tried 'mount -o windows_names' and 'mount -t ntfs-3g -o windows_names', and in all cases it is ignored
[05:36] <curly_brace> i am still encountering the same problem with runit when i issued, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:36] <curly_brace> it's with upstart
[05:37] <genii> arosen: There are options you can give to grub-install ( which is actually a wrapper around grub-mkconfig) to make it install it's files on a different arrea. So try mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt   and then: sudo update-grub -o /mnt /dev/sda
[05:38] <genii> arosen: Sorry, /dev/sda not required, was thinking grub-install for a moment
[05:38] <arosen> you mean mounting /dev/sda4 on /mnt?
[05:38] <genii> arosen: No
[05:38] <arosen> /dev/sda1 is the one that the system boots off of normally.
[05:38] <arosen> i want to switch it to running on /dev/sda4
[05:38] <genii> arosen: So you're in there right now?
[05:38] <arosen> yea
[05:38] <arosen> i chroot onto /dev/sda4
[05:38] <arosen> which is the linux i'm setting up
[05:39] <arosen> to try and reboot onto.
[05:43] <genii> arosen: Well, the dirty way is to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and replace sda1 with sda4 and sda4 with sda1
[05:45] <genii> curly_brace: Please pastebin what happens when you do run: sudo apt-get -f install   ...and then perhaps we can see what's happening
[05:45] <genii> arosen: The /boot/grub/grub.cfg on sda1, to clarify
[05:47] <curly_brace> genii - http://paste.ubuntu.com/24579263/
[05:48] <genii> curly_brace: Is this a phone?
[05:48] <arosen> genii: i updated /etc/default/grub and set default='6' and ran update-grub
[05:48] <arosen> i figured that would do the trick but it doesn't seem to. ANy ideas ?
[05:50] <curly_brace> genii, i am using a laptop
[05:50] <genii> arosen: I just told you the down-and-dirty way :D Which is to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg , change where it says sda1 into sda4, and where it says sda4 into sda1, save and exit.
[05:51] <arosen> genii:  it uses uuid'
[05:51] <arosen> s https://dpaste.de/sjq
[05:51] <arosen> https://dpaste.de/sjqv
[05:52] <genii> arosen: So find the uuids which correspond to sda1 and sda4 with: sudo blkid and use those instead
[05:58] <genii> curly_brace: Looks like some upstart versus systemd issue but right now I don't have the energy to delve into it ( almost 2am here)
[06:03] <genii> Actually, it looks like "runit" is supposed to be some other completely different init replacement for systemd AND upstart. I'd suggest removing it and using one of the standard init systems
[06:03] <birkhof361> Hi
[06:04] <birkhof361> can ubuntu be infected with wine by wanacry?
[06:06] <birkhof361> anybody here?
[06:08] <curly_brace> genii, ok
[06:08] <curly_brace> thanks for the help tho
[06:11] <azizLIGHT> how come this sabrent usb to ide/sata adapter only works under windows for this hard drive, but not under ubuntu? im on 14.04 and kernel 3.13. im using the same usb port, same jumper settings on the ide/pata drive. only os switch
[06:12] <azizLIGHT> i see the usb device detected but it doesnt go further and detect the hard drive inside
[06:12] <mistralol> missing driver?
[06:13] <mistralol> azizLIGHT: it may report something in the output of dmesg
[06:13] <azizLIGHT> when i power off the ide/pata drive, kern.log says usb device attached
[06:14] <genii> azizLIGHT: Is it a jmicron chipset?
[06:14] <azizLIGHT> im not sure. how to check
[06:14] <mistralol> lsusb
[06:14] <eligijus> Hello, is there a tool to list this kind of information http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-co0wWYISmcU/T_DY1ejlWQI/AAAAAAAAA-A/sBJYt5ElVCM/s1600/fsutil.png about connected flash drive?
[06:14] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24579352/
[06:15] <genii> azizLIGHT: I found a weird case  couple weeks ago where external USB enclosure needed pata_jmicron driver in adddition to usbstorage driver to work
[06:15] <Guest59849> Hello all is there channel for greece?
[06:15] <azizLIGHT> hmmm
[06:15] <genii> !gr | Guest59849
[06:16] <genii> azizLIGHT: So it's the Innostor ?
[06:17] <azizLIGHT> genii: yes it is
[06:17] <azizLIGHT> usb 3-6.4: New USB device found, idVendor=1f75, idProduct=0611
[06:17] <mistralol> eligijus: blkid gets you the uuid fschk can get you the frag count / block size. Then there is tune2fs that will return stuff as well. Some of the number won't make sense under linux
[06:18] <eligijus> mistralol, thanks I'll try them out.
[06:18] <mistralol> eligijus: be careful with them. read the man pages carefully
[06:19] <mistralol> azizLIGHT: whats the output of dmesg after connecting the adapator?
[06:19] <azizLIGHT> weird thing is, if i have the drive powered on, kern.log doesnt say anything about the usb device nor the ide/pata drive when i insert/remove the usb cable for the adapter
[06:19] <azizLIGHT> only when the drive is powered down, does the adapter get detected on insert/remove in kern.log
[06:19] <azizLIGHT> im using tail -F /var/log/kern.log instead of looking at dmesg
[06:20] <mistralol> azizLIGHT: i assume you have tried a different usb port and it has enough power etc..?
[06:20] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[06:20] <genii> azizLIGHT: The other one was also an Innostor, but different device identifier. Not sure if yours uses the jmicron chipset or some other one
[06:21] <mistralol> I have a jmicron one here tht works find :)
[06:21] <mistralol> but it did have issues when there was not enough power for it
[06:22] <azizLIGHT> trying a diff usb, gimme a sec
[06:22] <genii> azizLIGHT: ..but, you could try to sudo modprobe pata_jmicron , wait a while ( like 45 seconds or so) and then see if anything is using it, like usbstorage when you do lsmod
[06:22] <Golfgeo> Got a slight issue after installing Ubuntu 16.04.2: My monitor blinks and states it has no connection, but when pressing Clrl Alt F1 I do get a "connection" and the login prompt shows. Is this a feature or a known issue? And is there a sollution so it just shows on boot?
[06:23] <Golfgeo> Oh sorry, forgot to state: I've installed Ubuntu Server edition!
[06:23] <mistralol> Golfgeo: soudns like xwindows is running? ans putting something out of gfx card the monitor cannot handle
[06:23] <genii> Yes, that sounds like a case for nomodeset or similar
[06:24] <Golfgeo> mistralol, it's the server edition of ubuntu (sorry, forgot to state that), so no X (well, yet)
[06:25] <mistralol> Golfgeo: try nomodeset
[06:26] <genii> Golfgeo: If the monitor is attached with a converter of some kind, like DVI to VGA, that can also cause the system not to be able to read EDID info. Can be you also have it plugged into the second plug of a dual-head card
[06:26] <Golfgeo> genii and mistralol I've seen many postings about nomodeset being a worriesome solution to fix this. And on the aks part of ubuntu's website relating to an issue in 2012. So since I havent seen this issue with 14.xx I'm unsure if it's related at this time.
[06:26] <azizLIGHT> mistralol: tried a different usb port, it is doing the same thing as before: if drive is powered on, then usb device doesnt come listed in /var/log/kern.log on insert of usb and on remove of usb. if drive is powered off, then usb device shwos up on kern.log on insert and remove
[06:27] <azizLIGHT> mistralol: i believe power isnt an issue because ive used the same port under windows and was able to mount drive
[06:27] <Golfgeo> genii No converter though, have a vga and hdmi monitor and installed only with the hdmi attached. nomodeset seems (atm) the way to go then.
[06:28] <azizLIGHT> i am trying pata_jmicron right now
[06:29] <Golfgeo> atm I'm almost thinking (since the logon prompt pops up in a split second) that the server edition of 16.04 defaults into a "sleepy state" on the monitors and one has to do the "switch to console" to bring them up. Very unsure though.
[06:30] <azizLIGHT> genii: i did sudo modprobe pata_jmicron, and powered on drive, and inserted usb, nothing shows up on kern.log for innostar, nor the drive, while i wait 45 seconds plus
[06:31] <azizLIGHT> i do see this under "sudo lsmod | grep usb" http://paste.ubuntu.com/24579423/
[06:31] <genii> azizLIGHT: At the moment, no immediate other tactics come to mind. I'm pretty tired.
[06:31] <azizLIGHT> my only other option is to dig up my old pc with ide connector on mobo and use ubuntu livecd on it
[06:31] <azizLIGHT> hope it can boot from usb!!
[06:31] <azizLIGHT> or i gotta burn a cd lol
[06:32] <Golfgeo> genii and mitralol Will try the nomodeset :) thanks! :)
[06:39] <MiguelFuller> why does it take like 2minutes for ubuntu live to reboot after an installation? if is live I can just turn the thing off unpluggin it and that should be ok right?
[06:40] <selckin> if all the disk writes have been flushed
[06:41] <selckin> run "sync"
[06:41] <MiguelFuller> k? I guess that's what the live dvd is doing when is shutting down otherwise is pointless
[06:42] <selckin> mostly yeah
[06:42] <MiguelFuller> maybe is just trying to emulate installed behaviours
[06:43] <genii> MiguelFuller: It also does a bunch of cleanup on the target drive, unmounts it, syncs, etc
[06:45] <MiguelFuller> genii, target drive? you mean the dvd? what if it has no storage atached
[06:45] <genii> Target drive is wherever you installed to
[06:46] <MiguelFuller> oh in this case yes but other times even when live only it takes some time
[06:46] <selckin> well its always nice to let things shut down, close network connecting and sync and bla, so it'll never do what you want, but you can hit the reset button if you know whats you're doing without having issues yes
[06:48] <MiguelFuller> selckin, oh yea there's some stuff I didn't know I'm getting it, besides I shouldn't complain I run live from a dvd not a usb3.1 and on an old laptop but is always nice to know reaons
[06:50] <genii> MiguelFuller: It's also slow when not much ram, or running from a slower speed CD/DVD
[06:50] <MiguelFuller> can someone tell me why my local network connection from the computer with xubuntu is so slow? like I'm getting a file off my other pc on the lan and is doing it at 30kb/s when it should 10 10000kb
[06:50] <MiguelFuller> genii, yea
[06:52] <MiguelFuller> my network card is a fa510 from netgear about 10 years ago or older
[06:57] <genii> MiguelFuller: According to the copyright date of 2000 at http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/fa510na.pdf more like 17 years old. And 32 bit.
[06:58] <genii> With an unspecified chipset.
[06:59] <MiguelFuller> genii, is fast enough when drived properly
[06:59] <MiguelFuller> fast ethernet like
[07:09] <Pip> Hello
[07:11] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:17] <guest-uye2yf1> j
[07:17] <guest-uye2yf1> j
[07:17] <guest-uye2yf1> j
[07:17] <guest-uye2yf1> j
[07:19] <Pip> So how to upgrade from a lower version to a new version for Ubuntu?
[07:26] <ducasse> !upgrade | Pip
[07:31] <adac> Hi there! Does someone else have problems with a displayLink device? I'm getting a high cpu usage as soon as the external monitors are plugged in
[07:31] <adac> any ideas what I can do?
[07:31] <adac> So far one has to use the original displayLink driver. I suppose it is a problem with that one
[07:37] <ducasse> adac: someone mentioned similar problems here a while back, iirc it was solved by another driver version or something similar
[07:38] <adac> ducasse, I'm reading trough here: http://support.displaylink.com/forums/287786-displaylink-feature-suggestions/suggestions/12980403-ubuntu-16-04-lts?page=2&per_page=20
[07:38] <MiguelFuller> my netgear nic wag511 is making my laptop with ubuntu 16.04 to give sudo app crashes and disconnects from the wifi, could it be a driver problem? is this a known issue?
[07:39] <adac> ducasse, and they suggest one could try out this: https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/displaylink-debian
[07:39] <adac> I think i will do that later one
[07:39] <ducasse> adac: that might be the one, i honestly can't recall
[07:41] <adac> ducasse, ok no problem. Thank you anyways!
[07:42] <ducasse> adac: i'm digging through logs, but this must have been before i moved weechat to this machine...
[07:43] <jericho> hello everyone
[07:43] <adac> ducasse, ok thanks! If you find something, let me know!
[07:44] <jericho> Is anyone using 17.04? If so, does your ifconfig command work?
[07:46] <oerheks> jericho, yes
[07:47] <jericho> oerheks odd, when i type it it terminal tells me to install net-tools
[07:47] <oerheks> odd indeed, is is standard installed
[07:47] <ducasse> adac: found it - he had been in contact with their developers and they fixed it in their github repo. so that should be what you linked to above...
[07:48] <adac> ducasse, oh ok awesome! Thanks a lot!
[07:48] <oerheks> !info net-tools
[07:49] <oerheks> this says optional, but i did not install it manually
[07:50] <ducasse> jericho: ifconfig has been deprecated for many years, the new tool is 'ip'
[07:50] <jericho> ducasse, oh thanks
[08:09] <selsper> test
[08:09] <selsper> somebody here please help me with my problem, it is beyond absurd that I can not get this solved
[08:09] <oerheks> selsper, lets hear it
[08:09] <mirak> hi
[08:10] <selsper> i want to play runescape on this laptop. it doesn't work. idk how to get it working.
[08:10] <selsper> fyi, windows doesn't work either
[08:10] <selsper> that is why I am here
[08:11] <ducasse> selsper: did you install it from the ubuntu repos or the runescape site?
[08:11] <oerheks> hmm i install the runescape package now, to test, with openjdk-8
[08:11] <selsper> repos = no go ; as far as i can see
[08:11] <selsper> runescape site.
[08:11] <ducasse> selsper: if you installed from their site then get support from them
[08:12] <selsper> ducasse: ....
[08:12] <selsper> how many times
[08:12] <oerheks> selpdone .. works fine here .. updating.. logging in ...
[08:12] <oerheks> !info runescape
[08:12] <ducasse> selsper: those are *their* binaries, they support them
[08:13] <selsper> no
[08:13] <selsper> they do not
[08:13] <selsper> i swear o
[08:13] <selsper> i looked it uo
[08:13] <selsper> up
[08:14] <ducasse> selsper: you mean they are unresponsive?
[08:14] <oerheks> selsper, use the package fromk softwarecenter, have fun
[08:14] <selsper> yes, no
[08:15] <ducasse> selsper: we can't help it if they don't respond. uninstall it and use the ubuntu packages.
[08:15] <selsper> well yeah
[08:15]  * oerheks talking to Gudrik now
[08:15] <selsper> you might actually be able to
[08:15] <selsper> because I do not believe it is a problem with their binaries
[08:16] <selsper> i am talking very specifically about the laptop infront of me
[08:16] <selsper> and it is not usual in any sense of the word
[08:17] <alkisg> Hi, I followed the steps from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack and I got the new kernel, but not its -signed variant. The weird thing is that it still boots fine, even with secureboot=on in UEFI. What am I missing, why is -signed in the archives then?
[08:17] <ducasse> selsper: it doesn't really matter what you believe, those binaries are still not supported here. i don't see what's so hard to understand about that.
[08:18] <selsper> can u make heads or tails of this: https://www.google.ch/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=VPCS13AGJ%3A&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=LGQZWd7_M5DN8geq7rO4BQ
[08:19] <selsper> well the binaries are not the issue
[08:19] <selsper> it is the laptop, of which I do believe I need some sort of clarification as to what sort of issue I am running into here
[08:19] <oerheks> selsper, what is wrong with the runescape in our repos??
[08:19] <selsper> the same issue as the 2 other versions I installed
[08:20] <oerheks> their binairy blob is unsupported, i run the open radeondriver so it should work fine
[08:20] <selsper> it does not work, on this laptop, for reasons I CAN NOT source
[08:20] <ikonia> so the answer is to blindly change the version
[08:20] <ikonia> ?
[08:20]  * ducasse gives up and loses interest
[08:20] <selsper> fuckin aye
[08:20] <ikonia> selsper: don't swear please
[08:20] <selsper> ikonia: added to ignore list
[08:21] <selsper> tyvm
[08:21] <oerheks> ..
[08:21] <selsper> what did that acheive?
[08:21] <ikonia> selsper: you have a choice, work with people and the channel with a good attitude or leave the channel
[08:21] <selsper> gz u have op
[08:27] <rose_> what is selecting libsdl1.2 for glob means? I'm getting an error when running ./blender it says error while loading shared libraries libSDL-1.2.so.0 canot open share object file
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> rose_, ...was blender installed through the repositories...or in a different manner?
[08:28] <rose_> YankDownUnder: I downloaded the tar
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> rose_, Fair enough, fair enough...the reason I ask is because there are PPA's for blender....HOWEVER, that being said, what you described - is that the exact error?
[08:30] <rose_> yes the first part about shared libraries, and glob message I get after trying to install libsdl1.2 using apt-get
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> rose_, I'm reading also here that: Requires glibc 2.19. Suits most recent GNU/Linux distributions => therefore you've checked your glibc version, too, yersh?
[08:33] <rose_> YankDownUnder: no but I haven't got any message error for this
[08:33] <rose_> YankDownUnder: should I check on /usr/lib
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> rose_, What I would highly suggest is checking the "help files" that should be somewhere in the source/binary tree - as there would be something with more specific "requirements"...I'm not going to d/l the tar.gz to find out...HOWEVER, that being said, I'm trying to find the PPA that I use (yes, I have blender and it works - but installed through repos/PPA)
[08:36] <rose_> YankDownUnder: I don't know what ppa is for
[08:36] <ducasse> rose_: it is *highly* recommended to use the repos or at least a ppa instead of the approach you have taken
[08:36] <ducasse> !ppa | rose_
[08:37] <YankDownUnder> Ah...yersh...found it...SO, rose_ , this would be your best option... => Have a read: https://launchpad.net/~thomas-schiex/+archive/ubuntu/blender
[08:38] <YankDownUnder> And it's PPA - so it's updated and it WORKS...(unless you specifically break it)
[08:39] <rose_> YankDownUnder: the problem is I need this old version 2.69 as I'm on a pentium3'
[08:40] <rose_> ducasse: are the repos or ppa only the latest version
[08:40] <ducasse> rose_: which ubuntu are you on?
[08:41] <rose_> 16.04
[08:41] <ducasse> !info blender xenial
[08:42] <ducasse> rose_: so the repos have a later version, the ppas will probably be even newer
[08:42] <hhzhk> 16.10
[08:44] <hhzhk> 16.10
[08:44] <rose_> ducasse: thanks I'm learning stuff anyway is ok I'll figure it out, I had blender on debian before
[08:57] <hhzhk> /names[ubuntu]
[09:17] <CQ> hello, are there meta-packages for switching to the 4.10 kernel series on 16.04, or do you just install linux-image-4.10.0 and it updates from there on?
[09:17] <ikonia> CQ: why would you need a metapackage
[09:17] <ikonia> as it's just the kernel package
[09:17] <Hounddog> Hi, i am a bit unsure about ulimit settings,currently our jenkins server is going havok and i with java processes calling out that too many files are open. I see that ulimit is already set to unlimited but ulimit -n is set to 20000
[09:18] <CQ> ikonia: I want to stay up to date with the latest 4.10 series kernel as earlier ones have two ugly bugs affecting me
[09:20] <oerheks> CQ there is no 'metapackage' for 4.10 on 16.04, you will need to install them manually, and upgrade them manually also, you might be better off upgrading to 17.04/4.10.0.20
[09:20] <CQ> oerheks: I wanted to stay on LTS... any risk on 17.04?
[09:21] <oerheks> CQ,  any risk??? what do you mean by that?
[09:21] <CQ> oerheks: in terms of stability
[09:23] <hhkk> hi everyone!
[09:23] <oerheks> CQ, wait, you counter a bug for your situation, is it worth the try to upgrade??
[09:23] <ikonia> CQ: it's a production release, with a shorter support cycle
[09:24] <wewlad> hello ubuntoids, I have xubuntu and it uses wfwm4.12, which produces tearing in certain windows (like firefox), an xfce developer told me to try 4.13 as it uses OpenGL, how do I install that?
[09:24] <CQ> oerheks: I have a working, stable system except for two kernel bugs... so is it worth upgrading away from an LTS release, or do I jsut grab a newer kenel for the LTS? That's my question
[09:26] <oerheks> CQ, up to now 17.04 is stable, but you should make the decision. not sure what kernel bugs you talk about ...
[09:26] <ducasse> wewlad: this could also be an issue with your graphics driver, what kind of gpu is this?
[09:26] <CQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1686099 and a ZFS dataloss bug on hibernate
[09:26] <wewlad> ducasse: nvidia GT218 [GeForce 210]
[09:27] <atralheaven> Hi, I have experiencing some problems with Ubuntu 16.04, I searched for the ways to fix it, I found somethings, but they didn't work for me. now I'm thinking of switching to 17.04, I wanted to know how stable it is?
[09:27] <ducasse> wewlad: not familiar with the nvidia drivers, but i know there are settings you can change to fix tearing issues for them
[09:30] <CQ> rebooting...
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> ciao
[09:35] <Zeon219> atralheaven are you sure that these problems won't occur with 17.04?
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> beaaaaaaa
[09:35] <oerheks> CQ nasty bug indeed
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> lalalallaallalalalalalaalallalalalalalaù
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> ok
[09:35] <atralheaven> Zeon219: No, but I hope they have fixed these bugs
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> oiytrtyu
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> cazz
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> o9iuytfrdeyiklòàù
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> 7
[09:35] <lab1mobile1> +àèòplokjhygtfrdetyuiopèà+ùàèòplok
[09:35] <oerheks> lab1mobile1 do you have an ubuntu support question??
[09:36] <atralheaven> Zeon219: Im worried about more problems on 17.04
[09:36] <oerheks> atralheaven, what bug(s) exactly?
[09:36] <Zeon219> atralheaven as far i know 17.04 is stable enough
[09:36] <oerheks> now way telling without details
[09:38] <Zeon219> i have 16.04 installed and everything works fine so far
[09:38] <backbox> hiii
[09:39] <lab1mobile8_> hi
[09:39] <atralheaven> oerheks: the annoying ones are long delays for some keyboard shortcuts (terminal or screenshot for example), having no mouse cursor after turning on my laptop until I open something (like file manager or firefox) and nautilus not responding sometimes
[09:39] <bipul> What is the use of debconf-utils?
[09:40] <atralheaven> and this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1619022
[09:40] <lab1mobile8_> ciao
[09:40] <lab1mobile1> bea
[09:40] <lab1mobile1> fghyujhghjkjhklpòè
[09:40] <lab1mobile8_> trice
[09:40] <lab1mobile8_> noooo
[09:40] <lab1mobile1> mi piace la
[09:40] <lab1mobile8_> nutella
[09:40] <lab1mobile1> eva talato
[09:40] <lab1mobile8_> *
[09:41] <lab1mobile8_> zucchina
[09:41] <oerheks> lab1mobile8_, lab1mobile1 please play elsewhere, this is ubuntu support, thanks
[09:41] <lab1mobile8_> a me mi piace a nutella gelato cua pann
[09:41] <lab1mobile8_> e merendini in quantità
[09:41] <mirak> hi
[09:42] <oerheks> bipul, easy to find:  debconf is a software utility for performing system-wide configuration tasks, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debconf_(software_package)
[09:42] <lab1mobile8_> hey
[09:43] <lab1mobile8_> mondooooooi
[09:43] <ducasse> !ot | lab1mobile8_
[09:43] <oerheks> !it
[09:43] <lab1mobile8_> ih
[09:43] <lab1mobile8_> hi
[09:44] <lab1mobile8> how are you
[09:44] <lab1mobile8_> holo
[09:44] <lab1mobile8_> maria io esco
[10:01] <fbaca> any idea how I can preload the AHCI kernel module when I am netbooting the installer? I have one USB hard drive and one M2 SSD. When the USB drive is plugged in the installer will not detect any M2 SSD because it does not load the AHCI module. The moment I run modprobe AHCI I can see the SSD drive. If I boot the installer with the USB drive unplugeed the SSD
[10:01] <fbaca> is correctly detected.
[10:02] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[10:06] <oerheks> fbaca, on what ubuntu version? i found a bugreport for rc2 https://askubuntu.com/questions/759543/why-doesnt-the-latest-ubuntu-16-04-build-support-ahci-out-of-the-box
[10:06] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pxe/+bug/1571762
[10:06] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[10:06] <fbaca> oerheks: it's Ubuntu 14.04 installer but using the kernel based on 16.04
[10:07] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks
[10:08] <fbaca> oerheks: the ahci driver is loaded if there's no usb drive inserted, so it appears the installer just tries to find the first drive and stop there
[10:08] <oerheks> fbaca, i see, file a bugreport please, i have no clue there :-(
[10:11] <leeboby> snappy
[10:24] <XHFHX> Hi there. I just bootedd up my ubuntu 16.04 and my paper theme wasn't loaded, instead I had the normal unity layout. But I haven't changed anything and switching to any other theme in the unity theme editor doesn't change anything by the layout of ubuntu
[10:28] <XHFHX> now I removed the ~/.config folder and the top and sidebar vanished
[10:29] <XHFHX> will reboot now :/
[10:31] <Guest39402> how can i use vpn in ubuntu?
[10:38] <curly_brace> popey (~alan@ubuntu/member/popey) <- how do i get a cloak like this?
[10:38] <curly_brace> can i request something like this?
[10:38] <popey> !membership
[10:39] <popey> ^ like that
[10:39] <curly_brace> but instead of meme, user
[10:39] <kida> yes you can curly_brace
[10:39] <kida> can i demand a cloak
[10:39] <curly_brace> oh
[10:39] <kida> i demand one before the world ends
[10:39] <popey> You can get a generic cloak in #freenode
[10:39] <popey> I believe
[10:39] <curly_brace> so you need to contribute to ubuntu to have a cloak like that?
[10:39] <popey> to have the ubuntu member cloak, yes
[10:39] <curly_brace> lol kida
[10:40] <kida> not really curly_brace
[10:40] <curly_brace> i see, ok popey
[10:40] <curly_brace> how about ubuntu/user/curly
[10:40] <curly_brace> something like that, since i have been using ubuntu for a year now
[10:40] <curly_brace> :)
[10:40] <popey> I don't think we do those
[10:40] <curly_brace> ok
[10:40] <popey> but you could ask, dunno
[10:41] <DocMAX> ikonia, doesnt work
[10:41] <ikonia> DocMAX: define doesn't work
[10:41] <kida> are you by chance a muslim
[10:42] <ikonia> kida: what has that got to do with anything
[10:42] <ikonia> please keep to support discussion
[10:43] <kida> is the cyberattack a muslim's doing
[10:43] <ikonia> kida: be quiet if youre going to be randomly racist, it is not welcome here
[10:43] <kida> fine
[10:43] <kida> i'm leaving
[10:48] <DocMAX> ikonia, the build is sucessfull, but when i put snapper.so into the modules dir and start smbd i get: Error loading module '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/vfs/snapper.so': /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libndr.so.0: version `NDR_0.0.6' not found (required by /mnt/data/sources/samba/bin/shared/private/libsmbd-base-samba4.so)
[10:48] <DocMAX> crazy library stuff
[10:48] <ikonia> DocMAX: looks like it's either just a dependency or a linker path problem
[10:48] <ikonia> doesn't look like a big deal
[10:50] <DocMAX> dont know how to handle list :-(
[10:51] <DocMAX> ./configure --static or something?
[10:51] <DocMAX> list=it
[10:52] <ikonia> DocMAX: you said this was easy
[10:52] <ikonia> (yesterday)
[10:52] <DocMAX> yeah
[10:55] <DocMAX> the snapper.so module is part of samba, why in the name of xxx is somebody at ubuntu exlcuding this??????????
[10:55] <DocMAX> there is no reason
[10:55] <ikonia> DocMAX: no-one is excluding it
[10:56] <DocMAX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572950
[10:56] <ikonia> DocMAX: yes, you posted and I explained why it had not been progressed
[11:00] <jingge> fd
[11:02] <kajover> hi, will ubuntu switch to Gnome for sure or is KDE still in the talks? I am asking as the Plasma Phone would be an alternative to the Ubuntu Phone.. or do you think there will be a Gnome Phone version?
[11:02] <ikonia> kajover: kde is kubuntu, gnome is the target for ubuntu
[11:03] <kajover> so are there any plans for a phone based on GTK?
[11:03] <ikonia> kajover: ask the gnome developers
[11:03] <axhm3a> i think phone is dead
[11:06] <kajover> thanks
[11:07] <DocMAX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572950 <- i dod comment on this. wish me luck!
[11:15] <k> hi
[11:15] <Guest58851> gaozhaokui
[11:20] <DocMAX> can somebody help me with this to build samba? https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/07/04/how-to-prepare-patches-for-debian-packages/
[11:20] <DocMAX> i need to apply this patch: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;bug=804781;filename=samba-enable-snapper;msg=25
[11:24] <adac> in apt-get update I get: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/00135528a3a882546e3acd515d2a32f8
[11:25] <adac> is something down?
[11:25] <mistralol> adac: yeah your dns server
[11:26] <adac> miskatonik, :D
[11:26] <adac> mistralol, ^^
[11:28] <oerheks> DocMAX, according to this bugreport, build samba with libdbus-1-dev https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572950
[11:28] <DocMAX> yeah, i'm at apt-get source samba right now
[11:29] <DocMAX> i found https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804781, last entry
[11:30] <adac> mistralol, something seems to be indeed broken here locally
[11:32] <bounceman> Version: 14.04.5 LTS. I just recently experienced a CPU spike from 20% to 100% in one second and the server went into a complete hung state. Can anyone guide me in a direction of where I might look? It looks like a kernel panic in the logs, there are simply nothing between 12:17 and 12:55.
[11:33] <DocMAX> sudo apt install devscripts
[11:33] <DocMAX> ikonia, they forgot libdbus-1-dev!!!!!
[11:33] <ikonia> who did ?
[11:34] <DocMAX> Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>,
[11:34] <DocMAX>            Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>,
[11:34] <DocMAX>            Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>,
[11:34] <DocMAX>            Ivo De Decker <ivodd@debian.org>,
[11:34] <DocMAX>            Mathieu Parent <sathieu@debian.org>
[11:35] <DocMAX> it is all their fault
[11:35] <DocMAX> it goes into /debian/control file!
[11:35] <oerheks> please don't paste like that, and mail them their 'fault'
[11:39] <tnz> is there a preview image of ubuntu w/ gnome shell yet?
[11:41] <mistralol> tnz: its in 17.04 apparently
[11:41] <mistralol> tnz: but i have no idea how to turn it on
[11:42] <tnz> mistralol: ah ok cheers will take a look
[11:42] <mistralol> tnz: i think its something like apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:42] <mistralol> tnz: then chose it
[11:42] <mistralol> sourced https://www.howtogeek.com/112620/how-to-install-use-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu/
[11:46] <atoar> hi
[11:46] <tnz> interested in trying something with wayland
[11:47] <atoar> some one help me ?
[11:48] <MiguelFuller> let's say I install plop boot manager on my HD with xubuntu on it and it erases grub, can I rebuid it using grub-mkdevicemap and then grub-install /dev/hda then update-grub
[11:48] <eventHorizon> Hi trying to run docker burp-ui. I trying to make sense of this and apply it to ubuntu Systemd is used to manage multiple processes inside of the container, so a couple of special requirements are needed when running it: /run and /tmp must be mounted on tmpfs, and cgroup filesystem must be bind-mounted from the host. Example Docker run bit when running on Red Hat based distro: --tmpfs /run --tmpfs /tmp -v
[11:48] <eventHorizon> /sys/fs/cgroup:/sys/fs/cgroup:ro (If you are using Fedora or CentOS/RHEL, you can install oci-systemd-hook rpm package, and you don't need to specify any of this, it will be done automatically for you.)
[11:49] <chisung> hello
[11:49] <maich> hello
[11:49] <chisung> hi
[11:50] <maich> i want to be a hacker
[11:51] <ducasse> maich: we do ubuntu support, that is off topic
[11:51] <chisung> a hacker?
[11:52] <chisung> black hacker or withe hacker?
[11:52] <DocMAX> maich, grey?
[11:52] <maich> now here comes my point you see ubuntu being one of the strongest operating system known we need to we need to improve security
[11:53] <DocMAX> maich, you have to learn much young one
[11:53] <ducasse> maich: do you have a support question?
[11:54] <maich> @ducasse i just asked?
[11:54] <maich> am using mint 18 but its using all the 4gb ram what can i do?
[11:55] <ducasse> !mint | maich
[11:55] <tnz> maich: I recommend you try hardware hacking
[11:55] <andre144k> someone knows how to restart a "usersession" inside vnc-viewer/vnc-server when i logged out xorg-session as user?
[11:55] <oerheks> maich, solution: use ubuntu, then you find support here
[11:55] <oerheks> * not for hacking though
[11:56] <MiguelFuller> andre144k, good question but I don't know
[11:56] <maich> thanks so that means that ubuntu is better than the other distributions eg mint
[11:57] <ducasse> maich: it means only ubuntu is supported here
[11:57] <maich> ducasse: thanks
[11:58] <oerheks> andre144k, only when you start vnc on boot
[11:59] <andre144k> i did, but after "logoff" i have no chance to relogin
[11:59] <ducasse> andre144k: you can have lightdm spawn the vnc server, then it will start up again
[12:01] <ducasse> andre144k: look at the bottom of the example config, /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz
[12:02] <DocMAX> ikonia, 2nd try... i'm samba building with debuild -us -uc
[12:02] <DocMAX> ikonia, please cross fingers
[12:05] <andre144k> is that feature called "persistent vnc server" ?
[12:06] <ducasse> andre144k: not sure what they call it, that would be one way to describe it. you connect to the vnc server, log in, and when you log out you will be back at the greeter.
[12:08] <andre144k> when i click inside gnome session on "username > quit" it will quit vnc-session - it would be better wehn it would relogin.
[12:08] <andre144k> so there is no option for logging out
[12:09] <ducasse> andre144k: so try the solution i described
[12:10] <Duality> hi
[12:10] <Duality> i have a problem
[12:10] <Duality> my usb buss doesn't show up
[12:10] <Duality> while there is usb available on the outside
[12:10] <Duality> lsusb shows nothing
[12:11] <Duality> while it should show a usb2.0 + a usb3.0
[12:11] <andre144k> i cant open that file, im on oracle os - based on redhat: yum install lightdm doesnt work
[12:12] <ducasse> andre144k: then why are you here?
[12:14] <andre144k> cause linux seems linux - so when someone have an good idea, it willbe run on redhat also (very often) - and here are much more users.
[12:15] <oerheks> andre144k, join the redhat irc ( if it exist) before getting wrong advise here
[12:15] <ducasse> andre144k: we only support ubuntu, questions like these waste our time. and yours.
[12:15] <oerheks> our advise is good, for ubuntu(debian)
[12:16] <andre144k> oki ... sry fr wasting time
[12:16] <tnz> andre144k: what is the parent process of vnc-session?
[12:16] <oerheks> * else the general #linux channel
[12:16] <fallentree> andre144k: if you're on oracle, then surely you have paid subscription so you can call someone to help you
[12:17] <fsociety[00]dat> hi, is canonical-livepatch useable on 16.04 with kernel series 4.8 ?
[12:17] <tnz> fallentree: onlly $1.25x10^6 per month! so affordable
[12:18] <fallentree> tnz: obviously is, if they're using oracle
[12:18] <oerheks> fsociety[00]dat, if you installed the 4.8 manually, i think not
[12:18] <Guest80669> Hi, I'm having an issue with boot on a new Ubuntu installation using either the proprietary or open source drivers. Machine is using a NVIDIA 980 with a DisplayPort to a 4K@60Hz screen. Occasionally the screen init fails and I just get a black screen on the login manager (I can still hear the startup sound, but I get no output) I've tried nomodeset and vesafb.nonsense=1 and neither seems to work. Does anybody know what could cause this?
[12:19] <Guest80669> On the screen I see flickering of no signal and then it retrying and then no signal again repeatedly
[12:19] <fsociety[00]dat> oerheks, 4.8 with dist-upgrade
[12:19] <oerheks> fsociety[00]dat, unlikely, i read 4.4.0.77.83 is current ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/linux-image-generic
[12:20] <tnz> Guest80669: aww guts bro, fscking graphics issues are the worst
[12:21] <Guest80669> tnz: Yeah - Once I get booted this is the smoothest graphics drivers ride I've ever had with Linux but having to kill the power two or three times to boot is a pita
[12:21] <fsociety[00]dat> oerheks, thanks
[12:22] <oerheks> fsociety[00]dat if you used HWE, i am not sure canonical-livepatch suits that kernel
[12:25] <Antibiotik> hello
[12:25] <jericho> hi
[12:28] <schahermacher> i have a language keyboard reset each time the screen locked any way to change it to the password language automatically?
[12:32] <proletariat> cześć wszystkim:)
[12:32] <proletariat> hello everyone:)
[12:33] <oerheks> hi proletariat
[12:33] <Antibiotik> hi
[12:58] <Golfgeo> So got a silly question: On 16.04.2 X doesn't start automaticly when using the "server" edition and installing xfce4... How can I resolve this so X starts automaticly on boot up
[12:59] <ducasse> Golfgeo: install lightdm for example
[13:00] <Golfgeo> wow, on my 14.04 instal (thats upgraded to 16.04) it was automaticly included in the xfce4 install
[13:00] <Golfgeo> Thanks ducasses :)
[13:00] <ducasse> Golfgeo: it would be if you installed xubuntu-desktop
[13:01] <Golfgeo> doesn't that include the unity enviromet?
[13:01] <Golfgeo> ah, didn't notice the x in there haha
[13:01] <Golfgeo> Sometimes I'm a little silly :)
[13:03] <ducasse> Golfgeo: one letter can make a big difference :)
[13:03] <Golfgeo> uhm, no I'm not! Just noticed the entire list of additional packages that would be installed... Going for the lightdm! that's also installed on my other system
[13:04] <Golfgeo> oh wow, I've been at this tooooo long! Your right ducasse! :) Installing xubuntu-desktop :)
[13:04] <rud0lf> how do i tell between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server from terminal?
[13:04] <rud0lf> i want to make sure what's installed on the shell i use
[13:04] <ducasse> Golfgeo: yes, it will also install various applications
[13:04] <ducasse> rud0lf: check if ubuntu-server is installed
[13:05] <rud0lf> uhh now.. how do i tell a particular package is installed?
[13:05] <Golfgeo> ducasse, I remember the day's of light installs ;) Now adays there is some 8 gigs of base install :)
[13:05] <rud0lf> some kind of apt list | grep ?
[13:07] <ducasse> rud0lf: 'apt policy ubuntu-server'
[13:07] <rud0lf> thank you
[13:07] <Golfgeo> Thankfully with this age of SSD's I don't have to ponder starting again to ensure all software is installed in a sequence that the diskreadheads make the minimal amount of "seekage" during boot! :)
[13:07] <Golfgeo> Thanks for your help ducasse! :)
[13:07] <ducasse> Golfgeo: np
[13:15] <DocMAX> ikonia, WORKS!!!
[13:15] <DocMAX> i have all .deb packages build!
[13:16] <DocMAX> its just 1 line that is missing in debian/control
[13:16] <DocMAX> who can i tell to fix it?
[13:17] <ikonia> DocMAX: get that package submitted
[13:17] <ikonia> DocMAX: build a patch and submit against that bug
[13:17] <DocMAX> where can i find instruction?
[13:17] <DocMAX> i have that patch file
[13:17] <DocMAX> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;bug=804781;filename=samba-enable-snapper;msg=25
[13:18] <ikonia> DocMAX: DocMAX http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html
[13:19] <DocMAX> no i will fix the next: the dam alx module (no wake on lan)
[13:19] <DocMAX> damn
[13:19] <DocMAX> no=now
[13:24] <DocMAX> its a bunch of shellcode...
[13:24] <rud0lf> now what do we chose as national symbol animal?
[13:24] <DarkPsydeLord> rud0lf, mosquito
[13:24] <DocMAX> isn't there a place to simply upload the file?
[13:24] <rud0lf> sorry wrong chat i guess
[13:31] <amila> ?
[13:32] <N-> !request
[13:36] <donofrio> so question if you're locked into a chroot directory say /app for middleware services like apache, jboss, tomcat, etc, (openssl, curl, php) what do I do to keep chrooted apps as near to git'versioned as possable.  What I mean is we have linux folks that run out vm's but they do not install or what version they install on os is just for os to use and probably nor the newest version, so we've been compiling like peasants and want to be
[13:36] <donofrio> able to use a package mangement mindset inside of the chrooted /app directory
[13:41] <scottjl> donofrio: you might want to look into using vm's with layered file systems, manage the os layer yourself, let them install and run off an application layer.
[13:41] <MiguelFuller> why the hell is xubuntu advising me to wipefs a ext2 zip disk I have some old data on? I want to see my data???
[13:43] <johnfg> hi folks
[13:44] <BluesKaj> hi johnfg
[13:44] <johnfg> I'm running a new (3 days) installation of ubuntu-server-16.04 all updates.
[13:45] <johnfg> I guess I must have missed this at install, but $HOME is encrypted, and I have to run `ecryptfs-mount-private` do be able to write anything to it.
[13:45] <johnfg> How do I undo this?
[13:46] <johnfg> BluesKaj: Howdy!
[13:46] <scottjl> johnfg: (1) reinstall w/o encryption.. (2) make a new home dir that's not encrypted and copy over to that
[13:46] <scottjl> take your pick
[13:46] <scottjl> oh and delete the old one for option 2
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow__> MAke another partition right on your drive and redirect the home mount
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow__> Personally I mount just my desktop (files and the folders on it) on a sep partition
[13:50] <laserbeak4445> I am having a few bugs with EasyTag recently. I'm looking for a better FOSS audio tag editor alternative. Any suggestions?
[13:51] <ducasse> laserbeak4445: puddletag or exfalso
[13:54] <laserbeak4445> ducasse: thx, I'm using Quod Libet as my music player so I guess I gonna give a try to exfalso. I check it and apparently it is related to Quod Libet...
[13:59] <johnfg> It will actually take another install?
[14:00] <johnfg> I am using lvm, if that makes any difference.
[14:00] <johnfg> scottjl: Or were you saying do *either* 1 or 2, not 1 *then* 2?
[14:01] <scottjl> correct
[14:01] <scottjl> if you reinstall, you don't need to make a new home directory. just don't pick encryption.
[14:01] <scottjl> but if you don't feel like reinstalling. just make a new home directory, copy the contents of your existing directory over, point to the new one, delete the old one
[14:03] <scottjl> 3rd option. make a temp dir, copy contents of home dir to temp dir. delete encrypted home dir. make new unencrypted home dir. copy contents back.
[14:05] <mikeymop> clear
[14:05] <mikeymop> exit
[14:05] <mikeymop> clear
[14:26]  * mikeymop testing
[14:27] <ducasse> mikeymop: ##test is good for that...
[14:28] <johnfg> scottjl: This install is in a vm, so it wouldn't take *too* much to remove and reinstall.
[14:28] <johnfg> However, as it's in a vm, this time I did not make a separate partition for /home, it's under /.
[14:29] <johnfg> Is there an easier way to do what you were talking about, or do I simply make a /home/<new user> directory?
[14:30] <johnfg> Right now, under $HOME, it shows ., .., .ecryptfs, and <user>.
[14:31] <johnfg> And with df, it shows up as /home/<user>/.Private
[14:32] <uuuuv> Hello, does anyone use an usb mini-soundcard with ubuntu ? I'm looking for something very cheap and compatible
[14:32] <scottjl> johnfg: mkdir /home/johnfg2, vipw and change your home directory to /home/johnfg2, save and quit. copy contents of old home dir over to new dir.
[14:34] <johnfg> scottjl: Thanks, looks like just what I need.  Plus, I'll pay closer attention to what's happening and what I'm doing at install.
[14:34] <leftyfb> ok, this drives me nuts
[14:35] <mujjingun> Tumbleweed - "Asked a question with zero score, no answers, no comments, and low views for a week."
[14:35] <leftyfb> uuuuv: if we were talking in person and you were to ask me to hand you a USB flash drive, would you say out loud "could you hand me an usb flash drive?"
[14:36] <scottjl> leftyfb:  ?
[14:36] <leftyfb> scottjl: It's a valid question.
[14:37] <leftyfb> ok, let me rephrase...
[14:37] <yingxiaxie> hey
[14:37] <scottjl> leftyfb: he's asking for a list of ubuntu compatible usb soundcards, what's wrong with that?
[14:37] <scottjl> leftyfb: he isn't asking you to hand him one blindly
[14:37] <leftyfb> uuuuv: if we were talking in person and you were to ask me to hand you a USB flash drive, would you say out loud "could you hand me an usb flash drive? or would you ask "could you hand me a usb flash drive?"
[14:37] <yingxiaxie> am stuck with my wine on elementary os
[14:37] <scottjl> leftyfb: and certainly better than him asking after-the-fact for support on an unsupported usb soundcard
[14:37] <leftyfb> I see this constantly and I'm very curious why people do it
[14:38] <scottjl> leftyfb: you're complaining about his grammar?
[14:39] <leftyfb> scottjl: It's a question because I'm genuinely curious. It's not exactly a complaint.
[14:39] <scottjl> leftyfb: remember, this channel is global, english is not necessarily someone's first language on here.
[14:40] <craptalk> does linux users have to be worry about wannacry?
[14:40] <tgm4883> Also, super off topic
[14:40] <leftyfb> craptalk: no
[14:40] <yingxiaxie> guys I need help here
[14:40] <craptalk> yeah, linux is always safe
[14:40] <ducasse> tgm4883: elementary is not supported here
[14:40] <craptalk> i mean, better off
[14:40] <ducasse> yingxiaxie: elementary is not supported here
[14:40] <DArqueBishop> craptalk: no, it's just the vulnerability that wannacry exploits doesn't exist in Linux.
[14:40] <ducasse> sorry tgm4883
[14:41] <yingxiaxie> @ducasse
[14:41] <yingxiaxie> its ubuntu
[14:41] <craptalk> they need to learn about target machine architecture, right? even the same windows has different arch, 32 and 64, both have diff things right?
[14:42] <DArqueBishop> !elementary
[14:42] <ducasse> yingxiaxie: no, it's *based* on ubuntu
[14:42] <tgm4883> ducasse: no it's not. Although I didn't read that far backlog and was just talking about this discussion about an/a usb card
[14:42] <DArqueBishop> !elementary | yingxiaxie
[14:42] <converge> I want cron to execute my script every 3 hours, is this ok ? * */3 * * * , when will it be the first execution ?
[14:42] <ducasse> tgm4883: mistype on my part, sorry :)
[14:43] <leftyfb> converge: change the first * to something like 0 to be at the top of the hour
[14:43] <tgm4883> leftyfb: +1
[14:43] <uuuuv> leftyfb, because i'm french
[14:44] <craptalk> leftyfb, why do you need to chage 0 at the first field?
[14:44] <leftyfb> uuuuv: ah, ok. Thank you. I see it quite a lot and was just curious if it was a language issue or people actually say that out loud :)
[14:44] <tgm4883> converge: the way you're currently got it written, it will execute every minute for an hour every 3 hours
[14:44] <craptalk> change*
[14:44] <tgm4883> craptalk: ^
[14:44] <leftyfb> craptalk: that is minutes
[14:44] <yingxiaxie> Elementary OS @Bishop
[14:44] <pavlos> converge: change the first * to 0
[14:45] <ducasse> yingxiaxie: ask in #elementary
[14:45] <craptalk> well okay
[14:45] <craptalk> i thought it was true
[14:45] <yingxiaxie> I need some smooth office and have no idea the best codeweavers
[14:45] <leftyfb> yingxiaxie: type /join #elementary
[14:45] <converge> if it's now 11:20:00 , and cron is 21 */3 * * , will it execute the first time at 11:21:00 ?
[14:45] <leftyfb> yingxiaxie: use libreoffice or Microsoft Office 365 online within google chrome
[14:45] <webly> hi
[14:45] <riidom> hi when I start Ubuntu Software Center from terminal with gnome-software (is it even the same? "software-center" didnt work), I get following error (among others but these look more like warnings):
[14:45] <riidom> 14:41:25:0963 Gs  failed to call gs_plugin_add_installed on shell-extensions: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files
[14:45] <webly> managesieve: Fatal: Plugin 'sieve_imapsieve' not found from directory
[14:46] <riidom> when I start it from launcher, I get an error popup saying alike "this file is not supported" <-- what I actually wanna fix
[14:46] <webly> I read that the plugin sieve_imapsieve has been introduced with dovecot 2.2.24 (https://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2017-February/107222.html)
[14:46] <webly> how can I get sieve_imapsieve in Ubuntu LTS?
[14:46] <converge> pavlos: if it's now 11:20:00 , and cron is 21 */3 * * , will it execute the first time at 11:21:00 ?
[14:46] <nacc> webly: you can file a bug report, but it's not typical for such to get backported
[14:47] <nacc> !latest | webly
[14:47] <nacc> !sru | webly
[14:47] <pavlos> converge: you can check your cron here, https://crontab.guru/
[14:47] <implite> !cron
[14:47] <leftyfb> webly: sieve is available in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[14:47] <daniel__> hi
[14:47] <webly> leftyfb: and the sieve_imapsieve plugin?
[14:47] <converge> pavlos: I did, thanks, but when will it be the first execution ?
[14:48] <curly_brace> excuse me, so i have installed vnstat to check my data usage
[14:48] <pavlos> converge: correct ... 1121 1421 1721 ...
[14:48] <converge> pavlos: great! thanks
[14:48] <curly_brace> but i am having a hard time reading what my actual data usage is now?
[14:48] <curly_brace> what does Mib means?
[14:48] <curly_brace> http://termbin.com/22ub
[14:48] <riidom> the "correct" Megabyte
[14:48] <implite> men in black?
[14:48] <implite> lol j/k
[14:48] <rud0lf> 2**20 bytes
[14:49] <nacc> webly: dovecot-sieve maybe?
[14:49] <rud0lf> 1,048,576 bytes or 1024 kilobytes
[14:49] <webly> nacc: dovecot-sieve version 1:2.2.22-1ubuntu2.4
[14:49] <webly> nacc: but sadly it doesn't has this plugin :/
[14:50] <nacc> webly: ah i see it's different
[14:50] <leftyfb> webly: I'm not sure about imapsieve, but sieve for filtering is available in dovecot in Ubuntu 16.04 because I'm using it
[14:50] <pavlos> curly_brace: MiB uses 1024 as a factor where MB uses 1000 as a factor
[14:50] <nacc> webly: well, as i said, it's unlikely to get the full major release back into 16.04, but you can file or see if a bug is already filed for it
[14:50] <nacc> !bug | webly
[14:50] <webly> leftyfb: https://rspamd.com/doc/tutorials/feedback_from_users_with_IMAPSieve.html#dovecot-configuration
[14:50] <webly> leftyfb: this particular plugin definition causes dovecot to fail starting up
[14:51] <webly> nacc: right, thanks for the information. Is it wise to install the dovecot package from non-lts on lts?
[14:51] <nacc> webly: no.
[14:51] <leftyfb> webly: is sieve_imapsieve just for antispam? Why not use spamassassin and/or RBL's?
[14:51] <webly> well, then I probably have to wait with using this particular feature until ubuntu LTS updated the package
[14:52] <webly> leftyfb: no, for everything, dkim/dkim-signing/spf/dmarc, greylist
[14:52] <curly_brace> ok pavlos, thanks for that
[14:52] <webly> it is an alternative to amavsid
[14:52] <webly> leftyfb: and this sieve_imapsieve is for autolearning when the user moves something from junk to inbox or the other way around
[14:52] <nacc> webly: as i said, LTS will *not* update the package
[14:53] <nacc> webly: did you read the !latest faq?
[14:53] <webly> nacc: thanks!
[14:53] <nacc> webly: if you are staying on LTS, you will get this feature in 18.04
[14:53] <webly> in about a year
[14:53] <webly> ok
[14:54] <nacc> webly: and once you upgrade to 18.04, of course :)
[14:55] <ducasse> leftyfb: sieve isn't actually an antispam thing at all, it's a module for running mail filters on the imap server instead of in the mua
[14:55] <leftyfb> ducasse: yeah, I'm using it
[14:55] <scottjl> webly: an alternative is to find a ppa someone is keeping up-to-date and use that.
[14:55] <scottjl> webly: or just get the source and build it yourself
[14:55] <leftyfb> ducasse: I wasn't sure if this sieve_imapsieve was a new thing
[14:56] <fallentree> webly: snap it up! :)
[14:56] <BluesKaj> FWIW about usb audio , I've noticed in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf has a list usb soundcards indexed to -2 (read ignore) ...that might be contributing to poor usb souncard support
[15:03] <converge> my contrab is 38 */3 * * * , but its not executing it the first time at 11:38 (I added it 11:30) , anyone knows why ?
[15:03] <Rumbles> because 11:38 isn't on every 3rd hour
[15:03] <Rumbles> it would run at 3, 6, 9 12
[15:04] <Rumbles> converge, ^^
[15:04] <converge> Rumbles: thanks !
[15:04] <Rumbles> np
[15:10] <maite_relato_dur> prefiero primero conocer las tuyas y ver si en algunas coincidimos
[15:12] <CrazySane> #ubuntu-es ?
[15:12] <leftyfb> he's gone
[15:12] <parthparikh>  hi i am facing problem with thunderbird on ubuntu if you can help
[15:12] <nacc> !details | parthparikh
[15:14] <parthparikh> i am trying to log into thunderbird. i enter my details while creating a new account. it takes me to google's site to verify. after that when i click next it freezes. i cannot create an account. this is being repeated again and again. please help
[15:14] <nacc> parthparikh: what version of ubuntu?
[15:15] <parthparikh> 16.04 i am using ubuntu mate
[15:15] <leftyfb> parthparikh: did you follow this to enable imap in your gmail account? https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=en
[15:15] <nacc> parthparikh: are you fully up to date (sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade)?
[15:17] <parthparikh> it is still not working. i have skipped some updates today.
[15:18] <parthparikh> i think i will update it and then try
[15:18] <leftyfb> parthparikh: did you follow this to enable imap in your gmail account? https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=en
[15:19] <webly> hi
[15:19] <webly> is there an Ubuntu package for DDC (dccifd) ? :)
[15:20] <parthparikh> my imap is enabled already
[15:20] <pavlos> parthparikh: I think you need to disable strong authentication in your google account
[15:21] <DJones> webly: Not sure if this helps, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man3/Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC.3pm.html That mentions dccifd
[15:21] <Rumbles> webly spamassassin
[15:23] <jnewt> i updated my nvidia binary driver a while back and ubuntu stopped booting (stuck at splash screen).  How do i roll back the driver if i can't boot to the OS?
[15:27] <Hackwar> hi folks, I want to regularly backup my websites from my hoster to my local backup server. I don't want to execute any code on the webserver and instead want to do this all from my local server. I also can not simply zip the site and then download that file, since the site is to big to create the whole archive. Anybody got a hint for a tutorial?
[15:28] <Hackwar> Everything that I found so far rather wants the webserver to do all the heavy lifting and then let the webserver copy the files from the webserver to the backup server
[15:29] <scottjl> Hackwar: rsync?
[15:29] <dStruct> Hackwar: that is going to be very specific to the company the hosts your webserver.  You may check their website for some documentation/support on how they recommend doing it.  SCP/SSH may be an option for you
[15:29] <dStruct> *that
[15:30] <Hackwar> I got ssh, just need to know how to do the rsync over that...
[15:30] <leftyfb> Hackwar: I have a script that does just this
[15:31] <nacc> Hackwar: rsync can use ssh natively, did you read `man rsync`?
[15:32] <Hackwar> nacc: looking into it right now
[15:32] <Hackwar> leftyfb: can you share that script?
[15:32] <converge> is there a way to log cron commands when using multiple commands ? im trying in this way 0 */3 * * * cd /opt/InstaPy/ && python /opt/InstaPy/quickstart.py >> /tmp/cron_debug_log.log 2>&1
[15:33] <leftyfb> Hackwar: https://github.com/leftyfb/backup_script
[15:33] <Hackwar> leftyfb: THANK YOU!
[15:34] <leftyfb> Hackwar: I might have made changes that I haven't implemented and I know there a bunch of things I want to fix up, but this should get you there
[15:34] <Hackwar> thanks, I think that will be the starting point that I need.
[15:35] <leftyfb> Hackwar: Currently the script requires you to be able to ssh as root. I enable ssh as root with an ssh key and the ssh key has the originating ip in it so it
[15:36] <scottjl> ugh
[15:36] <scottjl> someone gets your root key and you are pwn'ed.
[15:36] <leftyfb> Hackwar: the advantage of my script over just a simple rsync is it uses cp -l to copy over the nights backup from $current creating hard link which gets broken on the next rsync. This is basically delta backups
[15:37] <leftyfb> scottjl: nope
[15:37] <leftyfb> scottjl: as I said, the public key on the server has the originating ip hardcoded
[15:37] <scottjl> ok. gets your key and spoofs your ip.
[15:37] <leftyfb> scottjl: so yes, if they get my root ssh key and ssh in from the correct location (already lost the battle), then yes, I'm done
[15:38] <leftyfb> scottjl: I also have a few machines utilizing autossh/reverse tunneling that will help with this, but I haven't rolled it out everywhere
[15:39] <leftyfb> utilizing a bastion host
[15:39] <scottjl> if you're only backing up /var/www, why not just run it as the web id?
[15:40] <leftyfb> scottjl: I'm backing up way more than /var/www
[15:40] <scottjl> ok. doesn't sound like hackwar is, might want to look into locking it down hackwar
[15:40] <leftyfb> so you'd prefer giving www-data a shell? I find that more likely to get exploited
[15:42] <scottjl> if i had a choice of someone gaining access to my server, i'd prefer they were stuck with 33:33 than 0:0
[15:44] <Hackwar> Yes, I only need the www files and the DB and yes, I will lock it down further. While I am a novice at shell programming (I'm more a PHP coder...) I also don't just run any code from some guy of the internet. So I'm currently reading through the whole thing first.
[15:44] <Hackwar> Still, thank you very much leftyfb. So far the script looks very much like what I need.
[15:47] <immu> are the repo servers down by any chance :)
[15:52] <implite> anyone know what happened to yankdownunder?
[15:52] <aadesh> hi
[15:52] <implite> hi
[15:52] <aadesh> Actually i have a question
[15:52] <implite> ?
[15:53] <implite> ask your question please
[15:53] <aadesh> wait
[15:54] <aadesh> after installing ubuntu in Why we get low wifi range on rtl8723be?
[15:54] <implite> check your version of your firmware for your wifi drivers
[15:54] <aadesh> Is this problem of card or os
[15:54] <implite> !wifi
[15:55] <aadesh> I fixed it with modprobe
[15:55] <immu> are repo servers down?
[15:55] <aadesh> tell me what "modprobe -rv rtl8723be "does?
[15:55] <immu> they are ok
[15:56] <implite> rtl8723be  <--- you might need to try something different here
[15:57] <aadesh> what actually modprobe means
[15:57] <implite> !modprobe
[15:57] <scottjl> aadesh: modprobe loads the driver for your wifi card
[15:57] <aadesh> ok
[15:58] <aadesh> and -rv what it does
[15:58] <implite> switches settings for modprobe
[15:58] <aadesh> ok nice thanks
[15:58] <beeray> Hello, pls I need info for how to run graphics on lxd
[15:58] <aadesh> for info ye
[15:58] <aadesh> bye
[15:59] <implite> !lxd
[15:59] <implite> hmm ubottu doesnt know what that is...
[16:00] <implite> you mean lxde?
[16:00] <implite> !lxde
[16:01] <immu> ihi
[16:01] <immu> !hi
[16:02] <beeray> No, I mean LXD container
[16:06] <immu> beeray, you try asking here #ubuntu-server
[16:06] <samlander> yolo
[16:06] <leftyfb> beeray: you don't. That's not what containers are for or how they work
[16:06] <nacc> beeray: there is also #lxcontainers
[16:06] <nacc> leftyfb: you can, it just takes quite a bit of tweaking
[16:07] <nacc> leftyfb: have you used LXD containers? they are a bit different than Docker
[16:07] <samlander> anyone know how to get dnsmasq to respond with a specified IP for failed dns lookups?
[16:08] <leftyfb> nacc: I use them regularly. I've never used docker. And yeah, now that I think about it, I guess you could run a desktop environment in one, but man, why would you?
[16:08] <nacc> leftyfb: that i don't know :)
[16:08] <scottjl> they are a lot different than docker
[16:08] <nacc> leftyfb: becuase LXD is way easier to use than KVM :)
[16:08] <leftyfb> i've never used docker
[16:08] <beeray> leftyfb: yes i know. I am just running an experiment and I already got my results but I want to implement a graphics to confirm
[16:08] <samlander> docker is pretty sweet
[16:09] <samlander> although I only really use it for the sql server image
[16:09] <scottjl> docker is sweet, lxc is sweet, lxd is sweet, but they all have different uses (well lxc & lxd are pretty similar)
[16:09] <nacc> right, i wasn't trying to start a discussion, just wanted to clarify with leftyfb :)
[16:09] <samlander> i suppose now that mysql is native in EF Core I could probably just use that, but im pretty much biased now on using ms sql
[16:11] <samlander> i wonder if it is still retarded enough to allow feburary 30 as a date :/
[16:11] <scottjl> samlander: regarding dnsmasq & ip's. generally if you stick something in /etc/hosts dnsmasq should return that if it can't find it elsewhere (great for dns for local things)
[16:11] <scottjl> you might need to bounce dnsmasq after changes though
[16:12] <samlander> scott: I was thinking of setting up a pi-hole for my network and the responding to every request was an idea to circumvent some malware
[16:12] <scottjl> <3 pihole. runs great in a lxc/lxd container btw.
[16:12] <samlander> seems to be a growing trend that some ransomware will ping a random domain to make sure it's not in a sandbox and free to do damage
[16:13] <samlander> if the domain returns an ip it disables
[16:13] <samlander> so im thinking pihole would be great since it will block 100~k ad domains
[16:13] <samlander> and using the dnsmasq i might be able to defuse future ransomware automagically
[16:13] <scottjl> pihole will let you set up a custom white/blacklist.
[16:13] <samlander> not to mention put a cool "you dun fuked up" message on bad dns reqs :P
[16:14] <L72g5sSq> The WannaCry virus only affects Windows PC, correct?
[16:14] <scottjl> L72g5sSq: correct
[16:14] <L72g5sSq> Okay thanks.
[16:14] <samlander> basically im wondering if it's possible to set up a /# -> local IP for only failed
[16:14] <L72g5sSq> Our IT guy is asking those running Linux to "check our system"...lol
[16:15] <scottjl> L72g5sSq: i'd say "check your it guy" ;-)
[16:15] <samlander> as much as i love visual stuidio, if ms starts charging monthlys to the consumers for windows 10, ubuntu is going to become my primary os
[16:15] <scottjl> if he doesn't know that linux boxes (not running windows emulators) aren't affected by WC, time to hire someone competient.
[16:15] <samlander> scottjl: no shit
[16:16] <samlander> ~sigh
[16:16] <scottjl> samlander: yes. it would be possible to set something like that up with pihole.
[16:16] <samlander> awesome, guess im gonna go rtfm
[16:16] <scottjl> samlander: but you would have to set up the failed redirect within dnsmasq itself, not pihole
[16:16] <samlander> yes
[16:16] <scottjl> and pihole runs just fine on ubuntu. :-)
[16:17] <samlander> i just noticed though when i installed pihole that it used dnsmasq :)
[16:17] <samlander> yes, yes it does
[16:17] <scottjl> i have it running on a 16.04lts lxc container on my turris omnia.
[16:17] <samlander> although it would be nice if they would allow you to specify a port
[16:17] <samlander> it assumes port 80
[16:17] <samlander> and if you change the port in the lighthttp, it works, but its a bit wonky
[16:17] <samlander> also updating will overwrite the port as well
[16:18] <samlander> ive got it running on my enterprise server in my basement :) just wish my router wasnt so f@#%$% retarded and would allow me to change just the dns servers instead of forcing a static ip
[16:18] <vegombrei> hey guys whats up with flash? why suddenly im having issues with flash on all my devices??
[16:18] <samlander> flash is dying
[16:18] <scottjl> go ask adobe?
[16:19] <samlander> seriously, disable that shit
[16:19] <ducasse> !language | samlander
[16:19] <samlander> drp, sorry ducasse
[16:19] <webly> hi
[16:19] <webly> who knows whether the spamassassin update channel is free for commercial use? :)
[16:19] <vegombrei> huh?
[16:19]  * vegombrei hey guys whats up with flash? why suddenly im having issues with flash on all my devices??
[16:20] <samlander> flash is an unholy abomination in my mind, nothing but a forever unpatched security hole
[16:20] <samlander> for what? pretty animations? do it in <canvas> :P
[16:20] <Husky_Apocalypse> is it "zip -r zipfile folder/" or "zip -r folder/ zipfile"? Always get it confused
[16:21] <samlander> mkay peace out, thanks scott
[16:21] <samlander> zip folder outfolder -r
[16:21] <samlander> err zip folder archive -r
[16:21] <ducasse> Husky_Apocalypse: 'man zip'
[16:21] <Husky_Apocalypse> got it. "zip -r zipfile folder/"
[16:21] <leftyfb> Husky_Apocalypse: man zip
[16:22] <setup> CUNT
[16:23] <leftyfb> setup: you came here just to say that?
[16:23] <DJones> buntu support only
[16:23] <scottjl> some people have low aspirations
[16:23] <DJones> setup: please don't do that, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[16:25] <setup> Do you guys dual boot
[16:26] <compdoc> dual boot causes more problems than anything, except maybe wifi issues
[16:26] <DJones> setup: Yes, I do
[16:27] <vlt> What is dual boot?
[16:28] <setup> DUal boot lets 2 OS run at the same time!
[16:28] <scottjl> well not at the same time. you boot into one or the other
[16:28] <webly> isn't dual boot now much easier and cleaner with UEFI?
[16:28] <setup> sometimes
[16:28] <webly> also between windows and non-windows?
[16:28] <vlt> setup: That's called virtualisation. I do this with Xen.
[16:29] <guest-rBYNKu> gay chat
[16:30] <DJones> !alis Z guest-rBYNKu
[16:30] <compdoc> guest-rBYNKu, wrong channel for that. so sorry
[16:30] <DJones> !alis | guest-rBYNKu
[16:33] <fluffybori> how do i format the boot partition in ubuntu 16.04?
[16:34] <compdoc> gparted is nice
[16:34] <fluffybori> well, i am using gparted
[16:34] <fluffybori> but it is not possible
[16:35] <fluffybori> there is a lock next to the partition
[16:35] <oerheks> remove all partitions, and Click Device in the top menu -> Click Create Partition Table -> Select mbr ?
[16:35] <fluffybori> and i dont have access to all option
[16:36] <Bashing-om> fluffybori: Also a lock in the swap partition ? Does choosing " swap off " on the swap partition in GParted permit access to the /boot ?
[16:37] <fluffybori> nope i already did that Bashing-om
[16:38] <fluffybori> oerheks- removed all partitions now Device->create new partition gives cannot create new partition when there is an active partition
[16:39] <setup_> HELLO
[16:39] <Bashing-om> fluffybori: K. are you confusing a boot partition with the boot sector ( sector 0 ) ? -- and booting from a liveDVD(USB) ?
[16:39] <oerheks> fluffybori, odd, unmount the drive and mount it again?? you are doing this from live usb, yes?
[16:40] <fluffybori> hey no, the thing is i want to install windows 10. and it requirres that the file system is NTFS
[16:41] <fluffybori> trying to format so that it is NTFS
[16:41] <fluffybori> from within ubuntu
[16:41] <setup_> YES
[16:41] <fluffybori> i am good with a new partition, but even that is not possible
[16:41] <oerheks> fluffybori, let windows use the whole disk
[16:42] <fluffybori> oerheks, i can let windows use the whole disk, but it doesnt seem to move forward because the FS is not NTFS
[16:42] <rud0lf> wouldn't windows installer format the partition on its own?
[16:42] <fluffybori> nope
[16:42] <oerheks> heh, not an ubuntu issue, windows wants clean disk anyway ...
[16:43] <rud0lf> it's hard to believe
[16:43] <fluffybori> i think with win10 it is our responsibility
[16:43] <oerheks> and uses GPT now
[16:43] <fluffybori> what is GPT?
[16:43] <rud0lf> fluffybori: the modern partitioning scheme
[16:44] <rud0lf> i've installed win10 on dual-boot windows vista + xubuntu 16.04, over vista installation
[16:44] <fluffybori> ok
[16:44] <ducasse> fluffybori: are you trying to do this from a live usb or a full ubuntu install?
[16:44] <rud0lf> i just removed vista partition, and created new ntfs partition by ubuntu's gparted
[16:44] <fluffybori> rudolf, did you install xubuntu after windows?
[16:44] <rud0lf> yes
[16:44] <rud0lf> i mean back when was it solo vista
[16:45] <rud0lf> then xubuntu, then windows 10
[16:45] <fluffybori> well, my case is the other way round and its win10
[16:45] <setup_> I have a arcade cabinet running vista
[16:45] <fluffybori> ah
[16:45] <fluffybori> i dont know what to do
[16:45] <ducasse> fluffybori: please answer questions, or we will never get anywhere
[16:45] <rud0lf> fluffybori: when you make it work, you need also two steps to make windows not to overwrite grub
[16:46] <fluffybori> ducasse: sorry i missed your question
[16:46] <ducasse> fluffybori: are you trying to do this from a live usb or a full ubuntu install?
[16:46] <fluffybori> i have ubuntu in my entire disk without partition
[16:46] <fluffybori> i want to install windows either as dual boot or stand alone
[16:46] <intriga_> hi there
[16:47] <fluffybori> now i am trying to install windows from USB
[16:47] <ducasse> fluffybori: yes, but where were you running gparted from?
[16:47] <compdoc> fluffybori, a nice way thats usually safe, is to install on a 2nd disk
[16:47] <fluffybori> but that requirres NTFS fs
[16:47] <fluffybori> ducasse: from within ubuntu
[16:48] <ducasse> fluffybori: a full install or the live usb?
[16:48] <fluffybori> ducasse full install
[16:48] <ducasse> fluffybori: that's why you're having problems.
[16:48] <fluffybori> ok
[16:49] <oerheks> no, win10 uses exfat + gpt
[16:49] <fluffybori> i know i think because it is active that i am unable to do anything ducasse
[16:49] <fluffybori> what is the work around
[16:49] <oerheks> you dont *need* to format anything
[16:49] <oerheks> but why are we helping installing windows ....
[16:49] <setup_> Windows can be usful
[16:50] <ducasse> fluffybori: use the installer usb, but you should ask in ##windows
[16:50] <fluffybori> well - i get a message in one of the dialogs to format to NTFS
[16:50] <ducasse> setup_: it's still offtopic here
[16:50] <DJones> setup_: Cetainly windows can be useful, but its not on topic here, this channel only supports Ubuntu support issues
[16:51] <fluffybori> i thought its some ubuntu thing because it did not allow me to format to NTFS
[16:51] <mmanning_> I'm having issues with Ubuntu Server 14.04.5 not booting after a restart, it seems to hang after mounting the swap partition. I've tried Googling and I've been working on this for hours without making any headway. What can I provide to see if I can get any advice on getting this system to boot?
[16:51] <fluffybori> anyways thans very much
[16:51] <fluffybori> s/thans/thanks
[16:54] <setup_> NIGGER FUCK CUNT GAY SHIT CRAP CUNT TURD!
[16:55] <nacc> mmanning_: if you disable the swap partition, does it boot
[16:55] <mmanning_> nope
[16:55] <mmanning_> I think I just found the silver bullet
[16:55] <LjL> lol.
[16:55] <mmanning_> nacc, found this error is syslog https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/830046
[16:55] <LjL> Spec, look at this
[16:57]  * Seveas slaps DJones for misfiring :P
[16:57]  * LjL slaps Seveas for seveasing
[16:57]  * compdoc runs to google seveasing
[16:58] <Seveas> compdoc: careful. Make sure to enable safe search
[16:58] <oerheks> wb Seveas
[16:58] <LjL> ↑
[16:58] <compdoc> heh
[16:58] <Seveas> Last time LjL Seveas'ed, the internets melted
[16:58] <LjL> yeah, don't seveas and drive
[17:08] <mmanning_> nacc, that was not the solution, so back to square 1
[17:09] <atralheaven> Hi, I'm looking for an application that works like "data usage" on android, to log how much each process has used internet traffic
[17:09] <guest-ypnlbs> hello
[17:13] <nacc> mmanning_: hrm
[17:13] <mmanning_> nacc, when I commented out swap it hung and the previous mount
[17:13] <nacc> mmanning_: the disk is ok? (might boot to liveusb and check them)
[17:14] <mmanning_> hangs now at ext4-fs dm-0 re-mounted Opts: errors=remount-ro
[17:14] <mmanning_> it's a KVM client
[17:14] <mmanning_> physical disk is ok
[17:14] <mmanning_> it's not a freeze but a hang, as ctl-alt-del will reboot it
[17:15] <compdoc> its a guest?
[17:15] <mmanning_> compdoc, yea
[17:15] <compdoc> you using virt-manager?
[17:15] <mmanning_> proxmox
[17:16] <compdoc> shucks, cant help with that one
[17:16] <mmanning_> compdoc, well it was running fine
[17:16] <mmanning_> until a reboot
[17:16] <mmanning_> and some updates
[17:16] <mmanning_> tried booting with old kernel and did not help
[17:17] <compdoc> any updates to the host?
[17:17] <mmanning_> yes
[17:18] <mmanning_> had an issue with another VM after but I resolved that one
[17:18] <compdoc> does proxmox let you export the guest details to an xml file?
[17:18] <BillKGR> mmanning_, you can always try to downgrade the packages that made the issues appear...
[17:18] <mmanning_> BillKGR, can't recall which updates where run.
[17:19] <compdoc> bbl
[17:19] <mmanning_> compdoc, maybe
[17:19] <BillKGR> mmanning_, look at /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:19] <mmanning_> Bill :)
[17:19] <mmanning_> BillKGR,
[17:20] <ArteF4ct> ws
[17:27] <ideot4001> hey guys
[17:27] <ideot4001> anyone know where I can get a copy of the wannacry virus, need to test(safely) if it is going to affect my works software\
[17:28] <nacc> !ot | ideot4001
[17:29] <DJones> ideot4001: Nope, probably best asking in ##windows as its not relevant to Ubuntu support
[17:29] <aotaointbin> wannacry runs in wine
[17:29] <gp5st> did something change recently that would cause this: pasting into vim pastes escape characters
[17:29] <ideot4001> thanks DJones im a linux user, thought this group would be laughing about it
[17:29] <brunch875> I wouldn't try asking in #wine then
[17:30] <brunch875> gp5st, you have to :set paste
[17:30] <gp5st> brunch875: even when I do that it just doesn't paste anything
[17:30] <gp5st> and leaves insert mode
[17:30] <DJones> ideot4001: No reason to laugh about it, security concerns are relevant no matter which os you use
[17:31] <brunch875> gp5st, odd. I don't know how to reproduce
[17:32] <gp5st> brunch875: hmm, ok then. thanks. maybe it's a just-me issue, but I can't figure out where :(
[17:32] <brunch875> you could also try #vim, maybe someone has experienced something similar over there
[17:32] <gp5st> DJones: but at some level it makes those of us who walk into the dr and see the xp screensave and die a little inside feel vindicated. You're right though, just because we use linux doesn't mean we shouldn't care.  A shared network drive for instance could be affected, or business peeps
[17:33] <gp5st> brunch875: yeah, I was just curious if there was some change elsewhere since I havn't updated my vimrc and I don't remember vim being updated, but ::shrug:: thanks
[17:33] <pavlos> gp5st: usually you set vim in insert mode, copy some text from somewhere, and right click into vi
[17:34] <brunch875> I would try to reproduce but I don't know how to copy an escaped character :þ
[17:35] <ducasse> gp5st: has your setting for $TERM changed?
[17:37] <gp5st> ducasse: no, it's xterm like always
[17:37] <gp5st> pavlos: yeah, but the escape sends it out of insert mode
[17:38] <L72g5sSq> akik_: I got the dell xps 13 with preinstalled ubuntu. I like it a lot so far, but had some difficulties with the cursor jumping everywhere while I typed and also slow wifi with wireless N
[17:38] <L72g5sSq> akik_: I fixed the jumping cursor with libinput and mitigated the wifi issue by disabling powermanagement on the wifi card, but speeds are still slow :/
[17:39] <L72g5sSq> I did update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade, nothing
[17:39] <L72g5sSq> Anyone else having issues with slow wireless-n speeds on a laptop with an integrated wifi chip?
[17:42] <akik_> L72g5sSq: thanks for the feedback
[17:45] <scottjl> L72g5sSq: you'd have to specify what wifi chip you have
[17:45] <akik_> L72g5sSq: try using the laptop somewhere else in another wlan
[17:47] <beeray> Hello, pls I still need info for how to run graphics on lxd container
[17:48] <akik_> beeray: i've read that if you share the x11 socket to the container, you'd be able to open x11 apps from there
[17:48] <beeray> pls how do i do it, because i have tried multiple ways
[17:49] <akik_> https://stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/
[17:49] <beeray> akik_: pls how do I do that
[17:49] <caine> drone
[17:50] <scottjl> beeray: google "lxd x-windows" lots of hits with docs
[17:50] <akik_> beeray: that's actually not the one i meant :)
[17:51] <beeray> akik_ scottjl: thanks so much. let me go through that and test it
[17:51] <akik_> beeray: here's the one i meant http://fabiorehm.com/blog/2014/09/11/running-gui-apps-with-docker/
[17:52] <akik_> it was for docker though
[17:52] <akik_> -v /tmp/.X11-unix:/tmp/.X11-unix
[17:52] <scottjl> lxd != docker
[17:52] <t0th_-_> what the difference between service and systemctl  ?
[17:53] <slawek> Witam.
[17:53] <Bashing-om> t0th_-_: upstart/systemd .
[17:53] <slawek> Jaka jest nazwa pokoju ubuntu pl?
[17:53] <t0th_-_> what i need use?
[17:53] <Seveas> t0th_-_: 'service' is an old redhatism that ubuntu started adopting with upstart. All obsolete.
[17:53] <scottjl> t0th_-_: a service is a program that's running (and providing a service). systemctl is a command (that can control services, among other things)
[17:53] <Seveas> !pl | slawek
[17:53] <beeray> akik_: I have checked that one for docker. but I want the one for lxd
[17:54] <t0th_-_> so i need use systemctl ?
[17:54] <slawek> #ubuntu-pl
[17:54] <Seveas> t0th_-_: ayup.
[17:54] <t0th_-_> thanks
[17:54] <scottjl> man systemctl
[17:54] <Bashing-om> t0th_-_: 16.04+ is systemd based .
[17:54] <Seveas> slawek: /join #ubuntu-pl
[17:54] <slawek> #ubuntu-pl
[17:54] <scottjl> the syntax is far different
[17:54] <t0th_-_> yes, i see
[17:54] <t0th_-_> now i am using 16
[17:54] <Seveas> there's no 16.
[17:54] <Seveas> there's 16.04 and 16.10
[17:54] <scottjl> welcome to the pile of dung that is systemd
[17:55] <t0th_-_> i am not familiarity with systemctl
[17:55] <t0th_-_> yes yes Seveas
[17:55] <webly> systemd is nectar for admins! :O
[17:56] <jeffreylevesque> how do you delete a user, and it's home directory by it's UID?
[17:56] <Seveas> systemd is parts rubbish, parts awesome. Over time the rubbish ages and becomes better and the awesome ages and becomes normal :)
[17:56] <Seveas> jeffreylevesque: man userdel, man deluser
[17:56] <scottjl> Seveas: until the next thing comes out
[17:57] <Seveas> scottjl: given the amount of distros having switched over to it, that might actually take a while.
[17:57] <scottjl> rc scripts, init scripts, launchd (which never took off), systemd. give it few years, something else will come out
[17:57] <Seveas> and 'the next thing' might be api compatible, now that we have proper api's.
[17:58] <Seveas> lauchd took off just fine, on OsX...
[17:58] <minimec> t0th_-_: Basically you have 'sudo systemctl [start/stop/restart/status] <some service> to interact with the service during current boot, and 'sudo systemctl [enable/disable] <some service>' to enable/disable a service during boot.
[17:58] <scottjl> yes. but apple hoped it would spread beyond osx.
[17:58] <t0th_-_> nice
[17:58] <t0th_-_> thanks, minimec
[17:59] <scottjl> nah. the next thing won't use the same api's. that would be too easy. there will be some ugly compatibility library shoved inbetween.
[17:59] <Seveas> scottjl: I'm hoping very little spreads beyond the disease that is osx...
[17:59] <jeffreylevesque> i didn't see anything in man to remove a user by uid
[17:59] <Bashing-om> t0th_-_: In the begiinning was initab . - sequential processing - slow boot and slow system .. people screamed and hollered .. and now we have things happening in parallel , Fast but complex !
[18:00] <Seveas> jeffreylevesque: then maybe there isn't anything and you'll have to look up the username first...
[18:05] <fluffybori> join #python
[18:05] <leftyfb> no
[18:05] <Seveas> fluffybori: here, have a spare / :)
[18:05] <mmanning_> so looks like my server is hanging at boot right before the resolution changes, I've tried nomodeset but that has not helped. Anyone have any suggestions?
[18:05] <fluffybori> hehe
[18:05] <mmanning_> it's KVM
[18:09] <ceibal> hola xD quiero chat irc
[18:09] <ikonia> !es | ceibal
[18:10] <ceibal> hola xdddd
[18:15] <Guest88677> Hello, I'm having permission issues in ubuntu with Node.js. I believe this is a "noobie" mistake. Would anyone be willing to help me?
[18:16] <riidom> hi is there a way to search for OS keybindings "backwards"? I wanna know what is using Ctrl-Alt-S, for example
[18:16] <riidom> a good way is probably just pressing it and see what happens, but in this case nothing visible happens, yet when I assign this keybinding inside an application it won't trigger - another one, like Alt-V for example, does though
[18:16] <riidom> therefore I think Ubuntu has it reserved for something
[18:17] <Jonathan-> Hi I am update the firmware on my Qnap NAS, but after the update, my virt ubuntu dist firewall is blocking all connection then enabled, I tried to reset it with "ufw reset" but still the same then enabled, how do I fix it?
[18:17] <Seveas> riidom: quick hack: gsettings list-recursively | grep -i ctrl
[18:18] <Seveas> riidom: (which returns no default binding for Ctrl+Alt+S)
[18:18] <modernk> hello
[18:18] <riidom> yups Seveas .. maybe I doubled it inside application then
[18:18] <modernk> :D
[18:19] <riidom> but your quick hack will be useful in future I am pretty sure :) ty
[18:21] <riidom> Seveas: I tried Alt instead, and while the list is longer, I noticed that some keybindings are listed with 'Control' instead of 'Ctrl'
[18:48] <belgianguy> is there a specific channel for Ubuntu kernel patches?
[18:48] <nacc> belgianguy: what about kernel patches? there is #ubuntu-kernel
[18:49] <belgianguy> nacc, thanks, I just wanted to inform myself if the gigabyte/ryzen problem is still an issue in 4.12
[18:49] <belgianguy> atm I need to run with a custom kernel, that works fine, but it's less than ideal
[18:52] <oerheks> 4.12 is just started development :-D
[18:52] <Bashing-om> belgianguy: Tried a daily image of 17.10 ? See if it runs on Ryzen ?
[18:52] <oerheks> i think you point to 4.11, which became stable
[18:53] <nacc> belgianguy: not sure why 4.12 is relevant to the ubuntu kernel
[18:53] <nacc> belgianguy: are you confusing upstream and the ubuntu kernel?
[18:54] <belgianguy> nacc, 4.11 had Ryzen fixes, but still not bootable on Gigabyte mobo's
[18:54] <nacc> belgianguy: right, but 4.11 is also not in any ubuntu kernels
[18:54] <oerheks> 4.11 is in mainline
[18:54] <belgianguy> I don't know too much about kernels, only that Ubuntu can't run on a Gigabyte/Ryzen motherboard
[18:55] <oerheks> do not expect linux to have kernel support for hardware less than 6 months old
[18:55] <belgianguy> when the pinctrl-amd module is disabled and recompiled, the kernel works just fine
[18:55] <belgianguy> oerheks, oh I am patient, it's just that I don't know where to look for new information
[18:56] <nacc> belgianguy: wait til a release with that base kernel (17.10)
[18:56] <belgianguy> and if Ubuntu even can do anything about it (maybe it's Gigabyte's fault)
[18:56] <oerheks> Just be patient i guess, there is a 1st RC here .. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:59] <belgianguy> oerheks, ok, I'll try the new RCs and hope at least someone at Gigabyte cares enough (little hope as I saw some mails on the bug tracker)
[19:00] <Secret-Fire> is it possible to get radeon driver working in 17.04?
[19:01] <oerheks> Secret-Fire, it should be loaded standard, open radeon, or maybe you have a newer GPU that supports the newer open  AMDgpu
[19:01] <Secret-Fire> it is rx 480
[19:01] <Secret-Fire> pretty new
[19:01] <oerheks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[19:01] <Secret-Fire> its using onboard graphics now because the hd audio isnt working
[19:02] <Secret-Fire> it says amdgpu
[19:02] <oerheks> good!
[19:02] <Secret-Fire> why isnt the hd audio working?
[19:02] <oerheks> open alsamixer, hit F6 :  and see what device is in use
[19:03] <oerheks> and maybe fiddle around with the settings
[19:04] <Secret-Fire> no luck
[19:05] <oerheks> Secret-Fire, oke, what audiochip does 'lspci' show??
[19:05] <oerheks> maybe there are others who have found a fix
[19:05] <Secret-Fire> Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aaf0
[19:06] <Secret-Fire> its using the onboard audio
[19:06] <oerheks> Secret-Fire, the 8 digit hex code is more important, the name gives many chipsets
[19:07] <Secret-Fire> SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[19:09] <Tweth-U-PDS> Hello!  I've tried installing tomcat (From instructions on https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/administration/integration/plantuml.html ), but it doesn't appear to be listening...  Any advice on how to find out why?  (Ubuntu 16.04)
[19:09] <anddam> hello
[19:10] <anddam> can someone help me figuring out why the systemd-rfkill service doesn't properly save the rfkill software status of wifi?
[19:10] <synthetiq> i have a Canonical Landscape local server installed that handles a few ubuntu VMs.  i've noticed that the Landscape server spikes CPU ever 5 minutes.   anyone have any idea how to edit the default polling interval of Landscape?
[19:12] <oerheks> Secret-Fire, does your bios give an option for HDaudio/ SB emulation ?
[19:13] <Secret-Fire> im not sure
[19:19] <intriga> i was about to seek help for the latest official page (?) of nvidia drivers.
[19:19] <intriga> does anyone knows about it?
[19:20] <choki> steven: hi
[19:35] <TheMontyChrist> test
[19:35] <TheMontyChrist> when I log in, I'd like for a script to execute.  how to do this?
[19:36] <genii> !autostart
[19:37] <cinvoke> hello. im wondering if there is anything i can do to limit the amount of cache my kernel is using. im really not sure whats happening, only that when all my ram get dedicated to buff/cache, the system gets non-responsive.
[19:37] <cinvoke> Ubuntu 16.04.2
[19:37] <cinvoke> 4.4.0-77-generic #98
[19:37] <cinvoke> this is my work around: " sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[19:37] <cinvoke> please help
[19:37] <mistralol> ok so i change ubuntu 17.04 to use gnome / wayland and now it won't run. How do i change it back?
[19:39] <SwedeMike> cinvoke: when this happens, can you collect "free" and pastebin it? ie when the system is unresponsive
[19:39] <SwedeMike> cinvoke: you can look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness and also configure vm.min_free_kbytes
[19:42] <nicu_> 'sup
[19:48] <ppf> is there a way to look at the files contained in a specific package in a specific version?
[19:48] <ppf> s,version,release,
[19:49] <leftyfb> ppf: sudo dpkg -S <package_name>
[19:49] <leftyfb> sudo isn't necessary
[19:49] <ppf> leftyfb: that's for installed packages and the local release only
[19:49] <ppf> am i wrong?
[19:49] <leftyfb> that is for installed packages
[19:50] <leftyfb> ppf: there's also apt-file
[19:50] <leftyfb> which isn't installed by default
[19:50] <scottjl> ppf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ lets you browse them all on the web
[19:50] <minimec> ppf: this would be the filelist of gnome-terminal in 16.04... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/gnome-terminal/filelist
[19:50] <leftyfb> apt-file list <package_name>
[19:50] <ppf> that works for arbitrary packages, but still only for the local release
[19:50] <ppf> scottjl, minimec awesome, thanks!
[19:50] <leftyfb> ppf: "local release"?
[19:51] <leftyfb> ppf: apt-file works on all packages, not just ones you have installed
[19:51] <ppf> leftyfb: the release i've ot installed
[19:52] <leftyfb> ppf: you could use it to file files in a package for a release that you have specified in a sources file. Doesn't necessarily mean that sources file needs to be loaded I think
[19:52] <leftyfb> -s "Sets the sources.list file to a different value from its default /etc/apt/sources.list."
[19:53] <skdf> Anyone here know of a channel for Homelabs?
[19:53] <skdf> :>
[19:57] <nacc> !alis | skdf
[19:57] <nacc> leftyfb: ppf: chdist is handy for this
[20:03] <ppf> nacc: nice!
[20:03] <skdf> nacc: ty
[20:03] <skdf> I'm working on setting up my Ubuntu Ser ver
[20:04] <nacc> ppf: as an ubuntu dev, i use chdist pretty often (and rmadison to look up what version is where)
[20:04] <skdf> nacc:
[20:04] <skdf> You're a Ubuntu dev?!
[20:04] <skdf> Quick question: Is it possible to put OpenVPN inside of a Snap?
[20:16] <wishe> My Laptop running Ubuntu 16.04 suddenly does not register headphones when i plug them in. There used to be a dialog that appeared as i plugged them in, but that no longer appears and the sound does not work through the jack. Anyone know how i can determine the issue?
[20:21] <Slax3> wishe Try to change Setting audio options
[20:28] <rockyh> Hi!
[20:29] <rx-determine> hello
[20:29] <rockyh> Are there any side effects in joining a *local* group (such as adm, sambashare) with a LDAP user?
[20:52] <bigMouthCommie> how can i list packages for ubuntu by their popcon rating?
[20:56] <mixxit> hey most videos i play in browser have screen tearing
[20:56] <mixxit> any idea why
[20:56] <de-facto> Hmm my RT3070 usb Wifi adapter could connect to my wifi without any problems on 16.10, not on 17.04 though. how can i find out where it fails?
[20:57] <mixxit> well, wrong question i guess, any idea how i can fix it
[20:58] <de-facto> ah i think its apparmor
[20:58] <de-facto> hmm
[20:59] <jvelasquez> Any idea how I can override the getty service in systemd?   I modified /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty\@tty1.
[20:59] <huggybear404> on ubuntu desktop 17.04 I search samba and realvnc not find under software ? remote desktop installed but vnc viewer fails connect, any tips ?
[21:00] <de-facto> how do i allow network manager dhcp in app armor? audit: type=1400 audit(1494881606.067:21): apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" info="Failed name lookup - disconnected path" error=-13 profile="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-helper" name="run/NetworkManager/private-dhcp" pid=21199 comm="nm-dhcp-helper" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[21:01] <leftyfb> de-facto: network manager works fine with dhcp in the supported releases of ubuntu
[21:02] <de-facto> its a fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 amd64
[21:02] <de-facto> it works fine with LAN not so with WiFi
[21:02] <de-facto> for some reason
[21:02] <de-facto> not sure why
[21:04] <de-facto> didnt change anything in network, pluged the usb wifi in and tried to get it to work with the nm gui
[21:15] <de-facto> hmm it doesnt even work without apparmor, so its something else going wrong on new release
[21:32] <ickalibyr> hi
[21:34] <Bashing-om> de-facto: Just a maybe then : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1682499 .
[21:34] <nacc> de-facto: you mean your wireless is not connecting at all?
[21:35] <de-facto> not at all
[21:35] <nacc> de-facto: it shows up in NM?
[21:35] <de-facto> yes
[21:35] <de-facto> but it never connects thought dmesg says it authenticated
[21:35] <de-facto> so i guess its something with dhcp
[21:35] <de-facto> put apparmor into audit mode and disabled ipv6 already
[21:35] <de-facto> no fun yet though
[21:37] <de-facto> aborting authentication with 00:..... by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> de-facto, Have you tried doing a static IP setup to see if that rectifies the issues with apparmor?
[21:41] <de-facto> yes doesnt work
[21:43] <YankDownUnder> de-facto, Did it *ever* work?
[21:44] <de-facto> not on this installation
[21:44] <de-facto> worked out of the box with 16.10 though
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> de-facto, So, from the point at which you did the installation, Network Manager has *never* worked, and you've *never* been able to connect?
[21:44] <mmaheu> scad
[21:45] <de-facto> not with usb wifi RT3070 adapter, works with ethernet though
[21:45] <de-facto> im using it right now
[21:46] <de-facto> i just want to be able to use wifi too in some situations
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> de-facto, So if it works "properly" with eth0 - the entire system - apparmor included - but it DOESN'T work with the Realtek wifi - how does "apparmor" fit into this picture? I'm curious...and I'm trying to build this image in my mind...
[21:48] <oerheks> i read about more wifi adapters do not work properly since 17.04, after upgrade, FYI
[21:48] <de-facto> i disabled apparmor already, so i think its something else
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> oerheks, Yeah...been observing that from at the point it was released...
[21:49] <de-facto> also the wifi name is wlx<someweirdletters>
[21:49] <oerheks> de-facto, is it connected to an USB3 port? ( blue)
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> de-facto, Why - again I ask - are you mucking about with apparmor in the first place? How does that affect anything related to your Realtek wifi?
[21:50] <de-facto> oerheks, yes to an pci card usb3
[21:50] <oerheks> try an usb2 port, if that works, file a bug against usb3
[21:51] <nolsen> Is there a PPA for the latest version of socat? The version of socat is outdated in ubuntu 17.04
[21:51] <nolsen> (I need 2.x, not 1.x)
[21:51] <a7i3n> <----working on Ubuntu install with i3 as the windowmanager wheee! :)
[21:52] <converge> is cron duplicating my script execution, or this is the way cron works ? https://gist.github.com/converge/18ca13f3ff42b73da85a7e01d5b5d762
[21:53] <de-facto> its not realtek btw its Ralink RT3070 usb
[21:54] <de-facto> and im starting to get the feeling its a kernel problem maybe
[21:55] <de-facto> rt2800usb and mac80211
[21:55] <nacc> converge: why are you cd'ing to a directory and then using an absolute path? does quickstart.py only work if run from that directory?
[21:56] <de-facto> YankDownUnder, because i see messages from apparmor in dmesg though it obviously wasnt the cause
[21:56] <oerheks> nolsen,  socat 2 is still in experimental upstream https://packages.debian.org/experimental/socat
[21:56] <converge> nacc: yes, the script is not very good right now, it's needed to enter the directory to execute the script corretly
[21:58] <nacc> !ppa | nolsen: you can search ppas yourself
[22:01] <oerheks> nolsen, i find no ppa, so build it yourself http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/download/
[22:01] <oerheks> .. or start a new ppa?
[22:04] <webly> hi again
[22:04] <webly> a more technical question: The PAM module is something that the system requires for user logins in console, shell, etc?
[22:04] <webly> Or is this an optional thing for some programs to use?
[22:05] <nacc> webly: "The PAM module" is nonsensical. There are many PAM modules.
[22:06] <webly> nacc: the whole PAM thing I mean
[22:07] <webly> could an Ubuntu system run fine without any PAM support/modules - as long as no PAM using programs are used?
[22:08] <hailhydra> what is the ubuntu icon at the top of the launcher called?
[22:08] <nacc> webly: do you mean can it be configured to, or do you mean can you remove PAM from ubuntu and have things 'just work'?
[22:09] <Bashing-om> hailhydra: dash .
[22:09] <webly> nacc: yes, that PAM is required by the very system or that is only a "nice to have" for some daemons like postfix or dovecot
[22:10] <hailhydra> Bashing-om: I don't see "dash" in /usr/share/applications
[22:10] <oerheks> hailhydra, it is no application, just a search tool
[22:11] <hailhydra> oerheks: how do I find it's gtk icon?
[22:12] <nacc> webly: i think it's pretty fundamental
[22:13] <nacc> webly: it's definitely not just used by daemons like postfix and dovecot
[22:14] <hashwagon> say you're managing multiple 16.04 servers in different time zones... what's best practce for timezones? All on UTC or what?
[22:15] <leptone> hi capparegime
[22:15] <capparegime> yoo
[22:15] <oerheks> hailhydra,  they are in /usr/share/unity/icons name: launcher*
[22:16] <hailhydra> oerheks: ty
[22:16] <webly> nacc: thanks
[22:17] <konrados> Hi. I have an usb drive, formatted as NTFS, my ubuntu sees it as "fuseblk" - `df -T` - now, when I'm trying to `mkdir  test` I see "No space left on device" -  but, `df -k` says I have 7 GB free space. What am I doing wrong?  I mounted it with GUI, i.e. when I plugged in the device there was a popup with the option 'mount', what should I do?
[22:17] <nacc> konrados: what version of ubuntu?
[22:17] <konrados> sec...
[22:18] <konrados> nacc, - Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[22:19] <rustyraptor> Hi I'm on Ubuntu 17.04 and I'm having trouble getting the latest version of nodejs
[22:19] <rustyraptor> when I install it gives me version 4.7
[22:19] <rustyraptor> but I need at least version 6.x
[22:20] <hailhydra> rustyraptor: read the known issues with Ubuntu for node you have to sym link it to the correct directory
[22:20] <gredjok> a friend is going to give me and old iphone she no longer uses and I wonder if I can erase the unit and install a ubuntu phone distro on it
[22:20] <gredjok> iphone = apple
[22:20] <hailhydra> gredjok: best guess is no.
[22:22] <hailhydra> oerheks: so that directory is just the icons. I need to know the name in /usr/share/applications so I can change the icon
[22:22] <nacc> !latest | rustyraptor
[22:22] <hashwagon> You may want to look here: https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[22:23] <nacc> rustyraptor: nodejs 6 is only in debian/experimental
[22:23] <nacc> rustyraptor: so not in any ubuntu, i expect
[22:23] <hashwagon> Anyone know best practises with nationwide linux servers and their timezones? UTC?
[22:23] <rustyraptor> even if I use the node ppa?
[22:23] <nacc> rustyraptor: then you'd need to check the ppa owner's instructions
[22:24] <gredjok> hailhydra, any way I can get rid of apples software and install anything open source?
[22:24] <nacc> rustyraptor: if you are using a ppa, it's not supported here, but only by the owner, and it's probably what hailhydra said (symlink somewhere)
[22:24] <hailhydra> yeah looks like nodejs -v is just 5.12 for me
[22:24] <nacc> hashwagon: seems like it's really up to you?
[22:25] <hailhydra> how easy would it be to switch out your kernel and use debian?
[22:28] <nacc> !who | hailhydra
[22:29] <hailhydra> so I don't have a launcher.desktop in /usr/share/applications how would I go about changing the icon?
[22:30] <Jumetian> on https://superuser.com/questions/319038/how-long-can-laptops-stay-safely-off, it is stated that a battery left within a laptop shall slowly drain even though the laptop is not on
[22:30] <Jumetian> i had a question relating to this
[22:30] <Jumetian> if i use the laptop a lot and the battery also remains inside but i am always charging it, that is, if the laptop is running on plug instead and the battery is never used, will it too drain out and stop working?
[22:31] <nacc> Jumetian: wrong channel? that's not an ubuntu support topic
[22:31] <konrados> nacc, please help me... I've read the entire internet regarding this subject ... :(
[22:31] <nacc> Jumetian: maybe ##hardware or something
[22:32] <nacc> konrados: can you show, in a pastebin, the `df -h /dev/...` output for the appropriate device (fi you can't find it, the ufll `df -h` output)
[22:42] <laurus> Is chroot dangerous? Why do I have to be superuser to chroot?
[22:43] <nacc> laurus: see `man 2 chroot`
[22:43] <zorbs0ne> laurus: chroot can be very dangerous. Because you could set permissions for an unknown user to access the files/directories.
[22:43] <zorbs0ne> i read that wrong
[22:45] <laurus> Yeah. I'm doing chroot to an image for a Raspberry Pi. Is that ok?
[22:46] <laurus> I mean is there a chance it will mess up my normal computer?
[22:46] <nacc> laurus: there is schroot (amongst other optoins) for normal user chroots
[22:47] <konrados> nacc, - https://gist.github.com/konradpapala/6d11099c0d279a95dea30b658d31b514
[22:47] <laurus> nacc, oh that sounds great.
[22:48] <laurus> nacc, what is the recommended way of adding my own username to the /etc/schroot/schroot.conf file?
[22:49] <nacc> laurus: i'm not sure you do
[22:49] <minimec> laurus: In your case simple 'chroot' will not work, becasue you have a 'amd64' kernel running and the raspberry pi is 'arm', as far as I know. See here... https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/24011
[22:49] <laurus> minimec, actually, the simple chroot worked.
[22:49] <laurus> nacc, I get W: No chroots are defined in ‘/etc/schroot/schroot.conf’ or ‘/etc/schroot/chroot.d’
[22:49] <minimec> laurus: Oh. Ok. Nice to know in the future. ;)
[22:49] <nacc> laurus: right, youll' have to setup a schroot instead of chroot, i think
[22:50] <laurus> mindlesstux, I used a combination of https://gist.github.com/jkullick/9b02c2061fbdf4a6c4e8a78f1312a689 and https://pastebin.com/pWuyTvbA to do this.
[22:50] <laurus> Er, minimec
[22:50] <nacc> konrados: hrm, i'm not sure, i don't use ntfs at all. but that df says it is full (even with 7G free). I'm guessing htat might be statistical rounding
[22:50] <laurus> I guess the "cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static usr/bin/qemu-arm-static" did it.
[22:51] <nacc> laurus: i don't think putting a binary in the chroot will change the running env
[22:51] <nacc> laurus: e.g., what does `uname -a` say is the arch in the chroot?
[22:51] <konrados> nacc, oh... so, is it possible it is related to this "inodes" stuff, like there is a limit... sec, I'll google that,
[22:52] <nacc> konrados: yeah, it could be bounded by something else
[22:53] <laurus> nacc, oh :(
[22:53] <nacc> laurus: chroots are just fileystem virtualization
[22:53] <laurus> Wait, so why does this work? https://pastebin.com/pWuyTvbA
[22:53] <rustyraptor> alright I fixed it with a symlink guys thanks.
[22:54] <nacc> laurus: all you did there was chroot to /mnt
[22:54] <nacc> laurus: define "work"? :)
[22:54] <laurus> nacc, but when I type uname - a it says arm
[22:55] <konrados> nacc, but `df -i`  says: https://fkcd.ca/LK5
[22:57] <nacc> konrados: can you run `df --si`?
[22:57] <nacc> laurus: hrm, i'm not sure? :)
[22:57] <laurus> nacc, don't worry about it :) Thanks. I'm just trying to get the schroot part now.
[22:58] <konrados> nacc, - /dev/sdc1 751G  743G  7,2G 100% /media/konrad/Elements
[22:58] <nacc> laurus: gl!
[22:58] <laurus> Thanks nacc
[22:58] <nacc> konrados: hrm, ok, i was reading that sometimes ubuntu and windows disagree about the units for the disk
[22:59] <konrados> nacc, - oh:( so, you suggest that I should delete some stuff? Give me a sec.
[22:59] <lvn_mate> Hi everyone. Quick question. Just read about a vulnerability in lightDM (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-8900.html) and I wanted to know which display server does Ubuntu MATE 16.04 use by default? Thanks.
[23:00] <nacc> lvn_mate: did you even read the page you are looking at?
[23:00] <nacc> lvn_mate: it specifically says the CVE fix for 16.10 and 17.04 is released already
[23:01] <nacc> lvn_mate: so why does it matter, for that CVE, what MATE uses?
[23:01] <nacc> lvn_mate: and that 16.04, in your case, is unaffected
[23:01] <lvn_mate> I see that now. Thx.
[23:11] <Bashing-om> konrados: nacc House keeping ? does NTFS require more than the 5% that ext4 does ? And does 'df' reflect the housekeeping overhead ?
[23:12] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah that was going to be my next suggestion
[23:12] <nacc> Bashing-om: in that raw disk space may not be accurately reflected if it's using a fuse driver
[23:14] <dreamcat4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lqo1quee/
[23:15] <Bashing-om> nacc: Just that I am not positive of what 'df' reflects // 5% of a 700 Gig drive is 35 Gigs there abouts . So not at all sure here what the numbers mean .
[23:15] <nacc> Bashing-om: true
[23:23] <elreys> asdf
[23:43] <torchedsnow> My sister just bought a iPhone on ebay. I know nothing about Apples stuff. Can I use something like heimdall-flash to factory reset it?
[23:43] <torchedsnow> wth is "itunes" can I install it on Ubuntu. Hate Apple
[23:44] <Bashing-om> !touch | torchedsnow
[23:46] <torchedsnow> Bashing-om, "Touch platform?" Just need to factory reset a iPhone on Ubuntu. I personally use LinageOS on my Nexus
[23:46] <minimec> torchedsnow: Older iphones should show up as USB mass storage when you plug them to a ubuntu system. And there is no 'itunes' alternative for ubuntu as far as I know.
[23:47] <torchedsnow> minimec, how do I flash a new apple ROM? This one is full of crap.
[23:48] <minimec> torchedsnow: You are in a apple controlled walled garden. You can't as far as I know.
[23:48] <torchedsnow> Normally with dd hemidall-flash or odin. I know nothing about that junk
[23:49] <torchedsnow> minimec, so if you sell your iPhone to somebody on ebay you can't factory reset it?
[23:49] <nacc> how is any of this ubuntu support?
[23:50] <torchedsnow> I am using ubuntu now. Would think of the 1700 ppl here somebody has an iPhone
[23:50] <torchedsnow> nacc, and no I do not have a mac or windows
[23:51] <minimec> torchedsnow: I never owned any apple device. Can't really help you ... ;)
[23:52] <nacc> torchedsnow: as with most devices, 'factory reset' is done device side; or have an apple OS for an apple device (as that is the only 'supported' thing by apple) and use their tools, i guess
[23:53] <nacc> torchedsnow: i don't know what you expect the support channel to do if someone bought a device that can't possibly be supported by ubuntu (or at least a mode of operation (factory reset) that isn't supported)
[23:54] <torchedsnow> nacc, was hopping somebody could recommend something like hemidall-flash but for iPhone.
[23:54] <torchedsnow> nacc, or a GNU/Linux version of "itunes" w/e it is called
[23:54] <nacc> torchedsnow: there is no gnu/linux of itunes
[23:54] <th0r> there's all sorts of info on resetting an iphone....but google links aren't permitted
[23:56] <Ichimusai> torchedsnow: To restore firmware normally it's reflashed through itunes. If you are trying to flash a custom rom onto your iphone I suggest you contact the people who made it for instructions.
[23:56] <Ichimusai> torchedsnow: Just firmware reset is done also through itunes or the phone menu (general->reset or somesuch)
[23:56] <torchedsnow> Ichimusai, not a custom rom. Just a fresh one to reset it...I was hopping
[23:57] <Ichimusai> torchedsnow: You have an informative link in PM