| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:28 |
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| EriC^^ | morning lotuspsychje | 04:33 |
| lotuspsychje | morning EriC^^ ! | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | how are you? | 04:34 |
| EriC^^ | good you? | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | wow 168mb updates | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | great here EriC^^ working day | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | 29 degrees in belgium today | 04:34 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | ububtu base | 04:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic xenial | 04:35 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.78.84 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB | 04:36 |
| lotuspsychje | think i have seen some wayland packages during update of aardvark | 04:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: ^ | 04:37 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Guess our developers are gearing up for wayland to be the default . | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 04:46 |
| lotuspsychje | bit weird waylanbd still with unity now lol | 04:46 |
| ducasse | morning all | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | morning ducasse xangua lordievader[m] | 06:15 |
| lotuspsychje | working day here ducasse and 29 degrees | 06:15 |
| xangua | Midnight here | 06:16 |
| lotuspsychje | where is that xangua | 06:16 |
| xangua | México | 06:17 |
| xangua | Well 1 am already | 06:18 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 06:18 |
| lordievader[m] | Hey ducasse, lotuspsychje, xangua | 06:22 |
| lordievader[m] | How are you all? | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | great here | 06:23 |
| xangua | Broken | 06:23 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader[m] | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | on the train again lordievader[m] ? | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | the [m] stands for mobile right? | 06:23 |
| lordievader[m] | The [m] stands for Matrix ;) | 06:23 |
| lordievader[m] | This time I'm not in a train. | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-desktop-gnome-extensions-survey-1710 | 06:33 |
| xangua | lotuspsychje: can we have window controls at the bottom center? | 06:40 |
| lordievader[m] | lotuspsychje: The nice thing about Matrix is that I get push notifications to my phone if someone mentions my name. | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | xangua: vote for the best | 06:48 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl guys | 06:48 |
| lotuspsychje | working day | 06:48 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:53 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj :) | 10:57 |
| BluesKaj | hi pauljw | 10:57 |
| BluesKaj | what's new? | 11:01 |
| pauljw | not much new here BluesKaj, made a road trip to new jersey over the weekend for my brothers' surprise 60th bday party. then had lots to get done yesterday like bailing the lawn... :) | 11:04 |
| BluesKaj | nice :-) | 11:07 |
| BluesKaj | been laid up with a virulent cold...my plans are on hold for now ...the yard needs attention , but it has to wait | 11:09 |
| pauljw | oh no, sorry to hear that, hope you feel better soon. | 11:11 |
| BluesKaj | well, it's a setback , but I'll catch up | 11:14 |
| pauljw | :) | 11:14 |
| pauljw | biab, time to ride to school. | 11:31 |
| pauljw | back | 11:47 |
| oerheks | :-) | 11:48 |
| pauljw | my daughter is driving to and from school but is still on her permit so i have to go along. :) | 11:48 |
| pauljw | brb, need to reboot this mess following updates... | 12:46 |
| ducasse | aren't there any ops present in main? i was under the impression 'dreaman' was pretty persona non grata after his constant trolling... | 16:11 |
| nacc | that would be great if they can be klined or something at this point | 16:12 |
| nacc | *I* got klined for typing too quickly last week :) | 16:12 |
| ducasse | should i ask in #ubuntu-ops? | 16:14 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:29 |
| lotuspsychje | hey guys, wanna take the 17.10 desktop survey for me? | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | https://goo.gl/forms/y33GYsiEe6BH6m3t1 | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | lets make gnome great by default | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | sorry , not me :-) | 16:39 |
| lotuspsychje | no sweat BluesKaj | 16:39 |
| ducasse | if this is at all gnome-related i'm probably a bad candidate :) | 16:40 |
| oerheks | "Sign in to your Google account to fill out this form" .... no joey | 16:40 |
| lotuspsychje | well its good they want the users opinion right? | 16:41 |
| oerheks | another hoax ... https://twitter.com/hackerfantastic/status/863359375787925505 | 16:43 |
| oerheks | :-D | 16:43 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-desktop-gnome-extensions-survey-1710 | 16:43 |
| lotuspsychje | oerheks: you think they wont influence gnome? | 16:46 |
| ducasse | oerheks: funny :) | 16:46 |
| oerheks | i think it does not what that dude says | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | oerheks: you dont like joey from omg right :p | 16:47 |
| lotuspsychje | and BluesKaj doesnt like phoronix | 16:47 |
| lotuspsychje | is there any good linux news out there? | 16:47 |
| oerheks | lotuspsychje, oh no, he is doing a great job, but i don't do surveys with google | 16:47 |
| nacc | LWN | 16:47 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, i don't trust his sources | 16:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c nacc | 16:48 |
| nacc | https://lwn.net/ | 16:48 |
| oerheks | i suspect he uses a lot of things *we* talk about, that is nice ( if he would give us credit too) | 16:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lol, found on irc.. | 16:49 |
| nacc | i feel like verything else is (legitimate or otherwise) clickbait these days | 16:49 |
| immu | ducasse, BluesKaj hi all, lotuspsychje i got banned | 16:49 |
| lotuspsychje | why immu | 16:49 |
| lotuspsychje | uh-oh..that escaladed quick | 16:51 |
| BluesKaj | immu, banned where? | 16:52 |
| lotuspsychje | and for what | 16:52 |
| immu | http://eu1.dronebl.org/lookup_branded.do?ip=86.99.123.222 | 16:56 |
| immu | check here all | 16:56 |
| oerheks | immu why would we check your drones ?? | 16:59 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:59 |
| immu | i don't know | 16:59 |
| * lotuspsychje is a lil lost..drones got banned? | 16:59 | |
| immu | A listing in DroneBL is NOT always related to spam. But in most cases because of an open proxy !!! | 17:01 |
| immu | full message. | 17:02 |
| immu | You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For | 17:02 |
| immu | more information, visit | 17:02 |
| immu | http://eu1.dronebl.org/lookup_branded.do?ip=86.99.123.222 Please contact | 17:02 |
| immu | proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. (2017/5/16 17.03) | 17:02 |
| immu | so i mailed them and got my ban removed | 17:02 |
| immu | :) | 17:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i was thinking, grub can be lost/damaged by other things then windows right? | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | !recovergrub | 17:04 |
| ubot5 | Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | confused a user this morning | 17:05 |
| immu | hmm | 17:05 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: you can break grub with linux :) | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | nacc: :p | 17:06 |
| nacc | e.g., dd over your MBR | 17:07 |
| nacc | i mean, windows breaks it quicker, probably :) | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | oh well, the url is there so | 17:10 |
| immu | hmm | 17:10 |
| lotuspsychje | what hmm immu ? | 17:11 |
| Bashing-om | Multi booting several 'buntu releases .. I have a lot of experience breaking grub :P | 17:11 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: lol | 17:11 |
| immu | critical thinking at your thoughts :) lotuspsychje | 17:11 |
| lotuspsychje | Lost GRUB after installing another Operating system? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub | 17:11 |
| lotuspsychje | would this be better nacc? | 17:12 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: oh i was just kidding | 17:12 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: more than likely it can just be 'Lost GRUB?' | 17:12 |
| lotuspsychje | no, i mean would this be valid? | 17:12 |
| lotuspsychje | or are there other ways to loose grub non-os related? | 17:12 |
| nacc | off the top of my head, i don't know | 17:13 |
| nacc | i imagine once could fubar the grub cfg | 17:13 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah was just thinking, delating stuf | 17:13 |
| lotuspsychje | delete | 17:13 |
| immu | MBR attacked by some virus | 17:13 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: What I see most often in multi-booting is recursion within the grub.cfg file from other install's grub . | 17:26 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: ok great but in theory perhaps messing with other boot programs like lilo could break grub also perhaps? | 17:27 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Oh gosh .. been so long since I messed with lilo. will have to think on this . | 17:29 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: i think, if using lilo or others on normal systems, it will *replace* grub | 17:29 |
| nacc | in the boot sector | 17:29 |
| nacc | lilo is rarely used outside of ia64/power, though, right? | 17:29 |
| nacc | and power went to yaboot | 17:30 |
| nacc | and is now grub2 | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 17:30 |
| immu | This is a synopsis of recent activity in DroneBL. DroneBL is a realtime monitor of abusable IPs, which has the goal of stopping abuse of infected machines. | 17:30 |
| nacc | so yes, installing lilo then runing lilo --install or whatever, would break grub :) | 17:30 |
| nacc | but you'd need to be root | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | just thinking of the trigger nacc, what else could happen to break | 17:30 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: yeah, i'm not sure you can come up with a fully-inclusive list | 17:31 |
| nacc | what you have is probably good enough | 17:31 |
| ducasse | you might be overthinking this, lotus :) | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | ill think nacc first sugestion to keep it simple would be best then | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | Have you lost GRUB? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub to restore it. | 17:32 |
| nacc | +1 | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychje | but i doubt the ops gonna like this | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychje | they surely will ask why to erase windows :p | 17:33 |
| lotuspsychje | <lotuspsychje> !ubports is Ubuntu Touch is the touch-friendly mobile version of the Ubuntu operating system. Originally designed and developed by Canonical, it now lives on in the UBports community. Visit us @ https://ubports.com/ and #ubports on irc | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje> !recovergrub is Have you lost GRUB? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub to restore it. | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | <ubottu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | there | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | have a nice evening to all, work tomorrow | 17:38 |
| lotuspsychje | dont forget to vote for gnome 17.10 baizon akik_ Ben64 immu lordievader Mr_0_ nicomachus wafflejock https://goo.gl/forms/y33GYsiEe6BH6m3t1 | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz | 17:40 |
| * nacc thinks gear4 shouldn't have bid on a contract they don't undrestand | 17:51 | |
| ducasse | something is fishy here... | 17:54 |
| nacc | yeah, my instinct was trolling | 17:54 |
| nacc | you can setup fully unauth'd ssh | 17:54 |
| nacc | but it's so terrible that no one does | 17:54 |
| nacc | and if any client machine is compromised, there goes your repo | 17:54 |
| ducasse | he's not listening to that, though. | 17:55 |
| nacc | right | 17:55 |
| nacc | and called me blind and arthiritic instead :) | 17:55 |
| ducasse | :) | 17:55 |
| nacc | ducasse: i'm tempted to ask what company they are contracting with and make sure not to order anything from them :) | 18:01 |
| ducasse | is this too rude: ? | 18:02 |
| ducasse | gear4: you might want to take into consideration that when everybody tells you something is stupid there's a good chance it is, and maybe pass that on to whoever's in charge... | 18:02 |
| nacc | ducasse: i just don't think they are responsive | 18:02 |
| nacc | to such feedback, i mean | 18:02 |
| ducasse | ok, then screw it and good luck to him :) | 18:02 |
| nacc | i also stand by my position that it's not an ubuntu support topic to a) solve a non-problem that they are being paid to solve b) configure a service for a user in an insecure way | 18:03 |
| ducasse | i whole-heartedly agree. kind of like helping people do their homework. | 18:06 |
| nacc | yeah -- or at least be up front that "i can't do my job, how do i do this?" :) | 18:07 |
| ducasse | :) | 18:09 |
| immu | survey done | 18:11 |
| DJones | Anobody thats on Ubuntu 17.04 (Unity) can you check something for me, right clicking on the desktop lets me create a new folder, but not a new document, is that right, I'm sure I used to be able to create new text documents etc | 18:34 |
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| DJones | Ah never mind, default Nautilus file browser lacks ‘New Document’ option in its context menu (right-click menu) in my fresh installed Ubuntu 17.04 | 18:44 |
| nacc | DJones: LP: #1437502 ? | 18:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1437502 in Ubuntu GNOME "nautilus lacking 'new document' in context menu on GNOME" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437502 | 18:45 |
| nacc | DJones: i found another bug that was duped to that one that was about unity (i think) | 18:45 |
| DJones | nacc: Yeah, touch ~/Templates/Untitled\ Document fixes the issue, looks like a nautilus bug/issue | 18:46 |
| nacc | DJones: ah ok | 18:47 |
| DJones | http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/04/enable-new-document-context-menu-in-ubuntu-17-04/ | 18:47 |
| DJones | Seems to explain it | 18:47 |
| DJones | ducasse: Sorry for pm | 18:48 |
| ducasse | DJones: np. the way he was harassing ikonia for a while i didn't expect that to happen soon :) | 18:51 |
| immu | DJones, no new right click for docs menu entry not present | 19:14 |
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| Ben64 | heh, can pick both left and right side for window controls on the survey | 22:53 |
| nacc | is it confusing to anyone else when someone comes in and doesn't know what ubuntu they are running? | 23:10 |
| nacc | i'm trying to think of reasons that happens | 23:10 |
| nacc | I guess if a University gives you a VM or something | 23:11 |
| nacc | or your company does | 23:11 |
| nacc | but presuming you installed it -- how do you not know what version you installed | 23:11 |
| nacc | maybe people are so used to the loud windows splash screen? | 23:11 |
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