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balloonsRight, we still have a bunch of trusty no worries00:45
balloonsTy for review00:45
axwhml: for things to do after the sprint: Australia Zoo is pretty close to the sprint location. I didn't think it was that great of a zoo, but if you want to see kangaroos and koalas, there's that01:03
axwthere's a bus that goes there, or you could drive pretty easily if you feel like driving on the wrong side of the road01:04
hmlaxw: I saw a koalas santuary near Brisbane?01:04
axwhml: oh yeah, I think it's near wallyworld's house actually :)01:04
hmlaxw: i’ve driven in Ireland, hopefully the roads are wider.  :-)01:04
axwprobably01:04
axwhaven't been to ireland01:05
wallyworldhml: the koala place is 3 minutes away from me01:05
axwbut given the rest of europe...01:05
wallyworldthere's another place closer to the venue; the steve irwin place01:05
hmlaxw: the roads are scarey small in the country side - and easy to find ones with grass down the middle01:05
wallyworldcrocodile hunter and all that01:05
axw(that's Australia Zoo)01:05
hmlwallyworld: :-)01:06
wallyworldwe can organise an excursion there if people are interested; a group booking01:06
axwwallyworld: if we can have the team dinner at https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g261638-d1745794-Reviews-Spice_Bar-Mooloolaba_Sunshine_Coast_Queensland.html I wouldn't be unhappy ;)  not sure if it's within budget01:07
wallyworldaxw: we'll sort something out :-) I was also thinking of Spirit House as a possibility01:09
axwwallyworld: in Yandina?01:09
wallyworldyeah01:09
axwwallyworld: looks nice01:09
axwmight be nice to get off the strip01:10
wallyworldit is - have been there. very good food. but your place looks nice also. degausation too01:10
wallyworldwe can take inpt from the group to decide :-)01:11
wallyworldeasy enough to organise a minibus if needed01:11
wallyworldi'll organise stuff next week once things are locked in01:11
axwyup01:12
wallyworldbabbageclunk: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7336 is updated. there are 2 commits - the 2nd one is the changes due to the rebase. whenever you get a chance is fine01:22
* thumper takes dog for a walk01:28
babbageclunkwallyworld: ok, will look once I get to the bottom of this subordinate thing - I feel like I've nearly got it.01:44
wallyworld\o/01:44
wallyworldno rush01:44
wgrantbabbageclunk: Thanks for looking at the subordinate bug.02:18
babbageclunkwgrant: :) I haven't fixed it yet!02:18
wgrantbabbageclunk: I have a suspicion that this it might be related to a couple of the remove-application issues as well, since they mostly involve subordinates.02:21
wgranthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1655486 is one02:22
mupBug #1655486: removal of principal ceph-osd charm stuck in 'executing' state <sts> <OpenStack ceph-osd charm:Incomplete> <juju:Triaged> <ceph-osd (Juju Charms Collection):Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1655486>02:22
babbageclunkwgrant: ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks02:25
wallyworldbabbageclunk: you may get to fix 2 or 3 bugs in one go - legend02:26
* babbageclunk isn't counting chickens02:35
wallyworldaxw: babbageclunk: just off for a bit to take son to get stitches out, bbiab03:00
axwok, later03:00
axwwallyworld: when you're back, please take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/735503:31
babbageclunkaxw: free for a moment? I think I understand the subordinate problem but not sure how to fix it.04:05
babbageclunkwallyworld: back from the hospital yet?04:15
* babbageclunk is lonely04:19
menn0jam: I can't make the standup, or the start at least. it's chaos here and I need to do a kid pickup.04:34
menn0babbageclunk: quick call?04:34
jamk04:35
jammenn0: I take it the CAAS call has already ended?04:39
menn0jam: yes04:40
axwbabbageclunk: sorry went out, do you still need me?05:23
babbageclunkaxw: No, I talked about it with thumper, I think it makes sense.05:24
axwbabbageclunk: ok, cool05:24
babbageclunkaxw: thanks though! I added it to the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/168669605:25
mupBug #1686696: Subordinate units won't die until all principal relations are gone <juju:Triaged by 2-xtian> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686696>05:25
axwbabbageclunk: sounds logical to me. maybe call it WatchUnitRelations though05:27
babbageclunkaxw: yeah, I am - forgot to update the comment.05:28
babbageclunkaxw: Cheers!05:28
wallyworldaxw: sorry, totally missed the ping, looking now07:27
axwwallyworld: thanks07:45
wallyworldnp07:45
rogpeppeaxw, wallyworld: any chance of a review of some of this API client refactoring? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/733808:48
axwrogpeppe: will look shortly08:51
rogpeppeaxw: tyvm08:51
axwrogpeppe: just one trivial. good stuff, thank you09:30
rogpeppeaxw: thanks!09:30
wpkwallyworld: re: landscape tests failing, I have a fix, I'm writing a test and will have a PR in a few minutes09:46
wpkwallyworld: jam: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7357 short one, simple one10:29
jamwpk: saw it before you advertised, lgtm10:30
jamwpk: did you respond to my review of SSH? 734810:30
wpkjam: the first one? yes10:31
wpkI see that all your comments are outdated10:33
jamah, I just had to reload the page10:38
wpkweb 2.0...10:39
wpkWhen is RC1 scheduled to be released?10:56
wallyworldwpk: sorry, i was at soccer, bck now. thanks for the fix!11:14
wpkwallyworld: always reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo ;)11:41
wallyworldwpk: yeah, i like john cleese11:51
wpkand it's merged.11:58
jamwpk: I responded to your update12:06
wpkk, thanks12:10
gsamfiraHi! Any volunteers for a 2 line PR? :P13:55
mupBug #1662272 opened: Agents stop running hooks and are hung <canonical-is> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662272>15:07
mupBug #1662272 changed: Agents stop running hooks and are hung <canonical-is> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662272>15:19
mupBug #1662272 opened: Agents stop running hooks and are hung <canonical-is> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662272>15:22
thumpermorning21:17
wpknight21:32
balloonsthumper, wallyworld, I believe https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/fbe29cb10097aa301fba795f449cb617c88420c8 broke backup/restore. Just confirming now, it'll be a bit22:11
thumperballoons: ta22:14
babbageclunkwallyworld, thumper: anyone remember the trick for creating subordinate units in tests?22:17
thumperbabbageclunk: can the factory do it?22:17
babbageclunkthumper: not directly22:18
wallyworldotp, sorry, give me a sec22:18
wpkcan someone take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7353 ? I made some changes after jam approved it and I'd like to merge it before RC1 if possible22:18
wpk(and if you think it's ok then $$merge$$ it)22:19
babbageclunkthumper: ooh, I remember where I had to do it now - ensuring principal units get migrated before subordinates.22:20
babbageclunkwpk: Looks good to me. Merged!22:24
thumperwallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7363/files22:38
wallyworldlooking22:42
wallyworldthumper: gret, ty22:45
wallyworldgreat22:45
thumperwell poo22:59
thumpermy theory around logs not being queries across models is wrong22:59
babbageclunkthumper: you and Ada would definitely get on.22:59
thumperwallyworld: here is another datapoint23:03
thumperin http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/github-check-merge-juju/1087/artifact/artifacts/grant.log23:03
thumper22:53:35 ERROR juju.cmd.juju.commands bootstrap.go:492 unable to contact api server after 1 attempts: unable to connect to API: x509: certificate signed by unknown authority23:03
wallyworldhmmm, joy23:03
thumperwallyworld: also I can't make the standup today, taking daughter to the Drs23:22
wallyworldok23:22
axwwallyworld: how'd the demo go?23:25
wallyworldaxw: aborted - screen sharing failed23:26
wallyworldgoing to retry next week23:26
axwwallyworld: :(  I thought that was a solved problem23:26
wallyworldit  worked when i shared the console with conjure-up but sharing a browser window failed. wtf23:27
axwthumper: that cert error is nothing to do with ssh though. that's about the TLS cert used to connect to the API23:30
axwI can believe that my changes might have broken backup/restore, but I don't think that particular error is related23:30
thumperaxw: I was raising the point with wallyworld because we talked earlier about cert changes that rogpeppe had been doing recently23:31
axwthumper: ah ok23:31
thumperbut perhaps the strict host checking is breaking backup / restore23:32
axwwallyworld: no online travel tool yet?23:35
axwjust got the email, but says to use provider23:35
axwI can email sarah, just wondering ify ou know23:35
axwthumper: yes, I think I did break restore. in state/backup/restore.go, the ssh command is running without having any host keys set23:38
axwthumper: so we should poke them in, they'll be in the state DB23:39

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