[00:45] Right, we still have a bunch of trusty no worries [00:45] Ty for review [01:03] hml: for things to do after the sprint: Australia Zoo is pretty close to the sprint location. I didn't think it was that great of a zoo, but if you want to see kangaroos and koalas, there's that [01:04] there's a bus that goes there, or you could drive pretty easily if you feel like driving on the wrong side of the road [01:04] axw: I saw a koalas santuary near Brisbane? [01:04] hml: oh yeah, I think it's near wallyworld's house actually :) [01:04] axw: i’ve driven in Ireland, hopefully the roads are wider. :-) [01:04] probably [01:05] haven't been to ireland [01:05] hml: the koala place is 3 minutes away from me [01:05] but given the rest of europe... [01:05] there's another place closer to the venue; the steve irwin place [01:05] axw: the roads are scarey small in the country side - and easy to find ones with grass down the middle [01:05] crocodile hunter and all that [01:05] (that's Australia Zoo) [01:06] wallyworld: :-) [01:06] we can organise an excursion there if people are interested; a group booking [01:07] wallyworld: if we can have the team dinner at https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g261638-d1745794-Reviews-Spice_Bar-Mooloolaba_Sunshine_Coast_Queensland.html I wouldn't be unhappy ;) not sure if it's within budget [01:09] axw: we'll sort something out :-) I was also thinking of Spirit House as a possibility [01:09] wallyworld: in Yandina? [01:09] yeah [01:09] wallyworld: looks nice [01:10] might be nice to get off the strip [01:10] it is - have been there. very good food. but your place looks nice also. degausation too [01:11] we can take inpt from the group to decide :-) [01:11] easy enough to organise a minibus if needed [01:11] i'll organise stuff next week once things are locked in [01:12] yup [01:22] babbageclunk: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7336 is updated. there are 2 commits - the 2nd one is the changes due to the rebase. whenever you get a chance is fine [01:28] * thumper takes dog for a walk [01:44] wallyworld: ok, will look once I get to the bottom of this subordinate thing - I feel like I've nearly got it. [01:44] \o/ [01:44] no rush [02:18] babbageclunk: Thanks for looking at the subordinate bug. [02:18] wgrant: :) I haven't fixed it yet! [02:21] babbageclunk: I have a suspicion that this it might be related to a couple of the remove-application issues as well, since they mostly involve subordinates. [02:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1655486 is one [02:22] Bug #1655486: removal of principal ceph-osd charm stuck in 'executing' state

[02:25] wgrant: ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks [02:26] babbageclunk: you may get to fix 2 or 3 bugs in one go - legend [02:35] * babbageclunk isn't counting chickens [03:00] axw: babbageclunk: just off for a bit to take son to get stitches out, bbiab [03:00] ok, later [03:31] wallyworld: when you're back, please take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7355 [04:05] axw: free for a moment? I think I understand the subordinate problem but not sure how to fix it. [04:15] wallyworld: back from the hospital yet? [04:19] * babbageclunk is lonely [04:34] jam: I can't make the standup, or the start at least. it's chaos here and I need to do a kid pickup. [04:34] babbageclunk: quick call? [04:35] k [04:39] menn0: I take it the CAAS call has already ended? [04:40] jam: yes [05:23] babbageclunk: sorry went out, do you still need me? [05:24] axw: No, I talked about it with thumper, I think it makes sense. [05:24] babbageclunk: ok, cool [05:25] axw: thanks though! I added it to the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1686696 [05:25] Bug #1686696: Subordinate units won't die until all principal relations are gone [05:27] babbageclunk: sounds logical to me. maybe call it WatchUnitRelations though [05:28] axw: yeah, I am - forgot to update the comment. [05:28] axw: Cheers! [07:27] axw: sorry, totally missed the ping, looking now [07:45] wallyworld: thanks [07:45] np [08:48] axw, wallyworld: any chance of a review of some of this API client refactoring? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7338 [08:51] rogpeppe: will look shortly [08:51] axw: tyvm [09:30] rogpeppe: just one trivial. good stuff, thank you [09:30] axw: thanks! [09:46] wallyworld: re: landscape tests failing, I have a fix, I'm writing a test and will have a PR in a few minutes [10:29] wallyworld: jam: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7357 short one, simple one [10:30] wpk: saw it before you advertised, lgtm [10:30] wpk: did you respond to my review of SSH? 7348 [10:31] jam: the first one? yes [10:33] I see that all your comments are outdated [10:38] ah, I just had to reload the page [10:39] web 2.0... [10:56] When is RC1 scheduled to be released? [11:14] wpk: sorry, i was at soccer, bck now. thanks for the fix! [11:41] wallyworld: always reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo ;) [11:51] wpk: yeah, i like john cleese [11:58] and it's merged. [12:06] wpk: I responded to your update [12:10] k, thanks [13:55] Hi! Any volunteers for a 2 line PR? :P [15:07] Bug #1662272 opened: Agents stop running hooks and are hung

[15:19] Bug #1662272 changed: Agents stop running hooks and are hung

[15:22] Bug #1662272 opened: Agents stop running hooks and are hung

[21:17] morning [21:32] night [22:11] thumper, wallyworld, I believe https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/fbe29cb10097aa301fba795f449cb617c88420c8 broke backup/restore. Just confirming now, it'll be a bit [22:14] balloons: ta [22:17] wallyworld, thumper: anyone remember the trick for creating subordinate units in tests? [22:17] babbageclunk: can the factory do it? [22:18] thumper: not directly [22:18] otp, sorry, give me a sec [22:18] can someone take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7353 ? I made some changes after jam approved it and I'd like to merge it before RC1 if possible [22:19] (and if you think it's ok then $$merge$$ it) [22:20] thumper: ooh, I remember where I had to do it now - ensuring principal units get migrated before subordinates. [22:24] wpk: Looks good to me. Merged! [22:38] wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7363/files [22:42] looking [22:45] thumper: gret, ty [22:45] great [22:59] well poo [22:59] my theory around logs not being queries across models is wrong [22:59] thumper: you and Ada would definitely get on. [23:03] wallyworld: here is another datapoint [23:03] in http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/github-check-merge-juju/1087/artifact/artifacts/grant.log [23:03] 22:53:35 ERROR juju.cmd.juju.commands bootstrap.go:492 unable to contact api server after 1 attempts: unable to connect to API: x509: certificate signed by unknown authority [23:03] hmmm, joy [23:22] wallyworld: also I can't make the standup today, taking daughter to the Drs [23:22] ok [23:25] wallyworld: how'd the demo go? [23:26] axw: aborted - screen sharing failed [23:26] going to retry next week [23:26] wallyworld: :( I thought that was a solved problem [23:27] it worked when i shared the console with conjure-up but sharing a browser window failed. wtf [23:30] thumper: that cert error is nothing to do with ssh though. that's about the TLS cert used to connect to the API [23:30] I can believe that my changes might have broken backup/restore, but I don't think that particular error is related [23:31] axw: I was raising the point with wallyworld because we talked earlier about cert changes that rogpeppe had been doing recently [23:31] thumper: ah ok [23:32] but perhaps the strict host checking is breaking backup / restore [23:35] wallyworld: no online travel tool yet? [23:35] just got the email, but says to use provider [23:35] I can email sarah, just wondering ify ou know [23:38] thumper: yes, I think I did break restore. in state/backup/restore.go, the ssh command is running without having any host keys set [23:39] thumper: so we should poke them in, they'll be in the state DB