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lordievader[m]Good morning05:10
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MeMorning05:17
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lordievader[m]Hey Me05:35
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wayneinformsWhite Genocide Through Forced Immigration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80CNy3QaXlo05:49
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user|25499how do i unistall this operating system07:39
suiciwhy ?07:39
suiciuser2549907:40
user|25499bcause i dont like it and it does not allow be to use the fuction i need to everyday07:40
user|25499i cant download i tunes or anything else for that matter07:41
suiciuser|25499: find an itunes alternative or try it in WINE07:42
user|25499so how can i unistall07:42
user|25499okay how do i do that07:42
user|25499how am supposed to add music to my iphone or ipod when apple produces only allow itunes07:44
suiciuser|25499: apple and linux aren't friends07:46
suiciapple itunes is proprietory07:46
suiciuser|25499: try running itunes for windows in WINE07:47
user|25499okAY07:48
user|25499thank you07:48
hateball!itunes08:03
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee08:03
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jubo2I'm half way to giving up on trying to diagnose what killed the video decodecs and 100% of audio and just reinstall the system08:21
jubo2I wouldn't stay sane if I didn't have a healthy Kubuntu to the right of me that I can use to play media08:26
jubo2the broken machine will not play any audio and will not play any video08:26
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jubo2lordievader: I don't know what is wrong / what broke the audio but my strong guess is that none of the video decodecs will play is somehow connected with the no-audio problem09:01
lordievader[m]Connected I'm sure, but not the cause ;)09:02
lordievader[m]Did you have a kernel update recently?09:02
jubo2I had one _after_ the audio stopped working09:03
jubo2I'm afraid the IME is doing bad things09:03
jubo2Intel Management Engine .. it is a computer inside the computer that the outer computer has no control over09:04
jubo2Disabling it in BIOS would be great if it only worked.. first it asks to change the default pass and then declines both the default and the new password upon reboot09:04
jubo2I've seen some other people complaining about this apparent inability to access the possibility to turn IME off09:05
jubo2When I got this machine the Win 10 complained like 10-15 times that my WiFi shared secret is not valid09:06
jubo2weird huh?09:06
lordievader[m]This sounds completely irrelevant.09:06
lordievader[m]Is pulseaudio running?09:08
jubo2Yeah09:13
jubo2'ps aux | grep "pulse"' says09:13
jubo2/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog09:13
jubo2is running09:13
lordievader[m]Disable the respawn and kill it.09:15
lordievader[m]Then try the different devices again via aplay.09:15
jubo2I know how to kill processes but I dunno where do I disable the respawn lordievader[m]09:16
lordievader[m]Second alinea: https://askubuntu.com/a/1030709:17
jubo2ok killed. what now?09:18
lordievader[m]Like I said, check the devices using aplay.09:19
jubo2aplay -l looks normal, aplay -L looks normal too09:21
jubo2lordievader[m]: where are the test sound files again? sorry don't recall09:22
lordievader[m]I ment selecting a device and seeing if you can play audio over it.09:22
lordievader[m]Like we did yesterday.09:22
lordievader[m]Also, ensure pa is not running.09:22
jubo2lordievader[m]:09:23
jubo2$ aplay --device default /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wavALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1052:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave09:23
jubo2aplay: main:788: audio open error: Device or resource busy09:23
jubo2I have a Kubuntu that has sounds intact to right of me.. how about copying the settings files from there, cross fingers and knock on wood09:24
lordievader[m]Try the plugdev ones ;)09:24
lordievader[m]Unless it runs exactly the same hardware (and versions) it is not going to help.09:25
jubo2device or resource busy09:25
jubo2lordievader[m]: but I also have a disk that has an intact Kubuntu17.04 that was installed right on this machine.. that would possibly do the trick, right?09:26
lordievader[m]Unless the problem lies with the kernel...09:26
jubo2lordievader[m]: which files should I get from the intact system?09:27
jubo2I plug it in09:27
lordievader[m]None, investigate the problem first.09:27
lordievader[m]Find out why the device is in use.09:27
jubo2I'm not the texiest person alive09:27
jubo2I just like my computer to work.. Not look at why it doesn't work. Sorry for userness09:28
lordievader[m]Does it work if you run the aplay command from root (sudo)?09:28
jubo2lets try09:28
lordievader[m]I understand that, but blindly copy pasting files is not helping.09:28
lordievader[m]Not unless you know what the problem is.09:28
jubo2I've fixed computer problems or at least workarounds with the blind method09:29
jubo2The conf files should not have changed the way they did. I didn't touch a thing in the audio settings before video decodecs and audio stopped working09:29
jubo2plus I'm out of coffee milk09:30
jubo2MAN MUSS MILCH HABEN MIT DER KAFFEEW09:30
jubo2I should be able to boot from the USB-to-SATAIII casing09:35
jubo2I've done that with Linux.. Windows won't have it but the hell with windows09:35
jubo2I try that09:36
jubo2lordievader: Now on the "old" Kubuntu17.04 and the sounds work09:39
jubo2please lets just try sudo cp stuff and hope it works method, yes?09:40
lordievader[m]I won't stop you.09:40
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lordievader[m]The other one is 17.10?09:41
jubo2no 17.0409:41
jubo2When I reinstall I reinstall to a next disk, not the one I'm "retireing"09:41
jubo2just for psychological comfort I suppose09:41
jubo2lordievader[m]: Should I 'sudo apt upgrade' this one to test the kernel problem theory?09:49
lordievader[m]You could..09:50
jubo2lordievader[m]: plus I don't know where the files are that could do the trick with the copy-paste settings and hope for working audio09:50
jubo2But I recall that the audio broke prior to latest Kernel update09:51
jubo2now running the upgrades09:52
jubo2lordievader[m]: upgrade complete and sound is intact09:57
jubo2Kernel installed is 4.10.0-20-generic09:58
lordievader[m]Did you reboot?09:58
jubo2Not yet.. good point that09:58
jubo2Not a HURD09:58
jubo2I reboot09:58
jubo2lordievader: audio still intact after reboot10:01
lordievader[m]Nice10:02
lordievader[m]Begs the question, why did you do a reinstall?10:02
jubo2I'd like to try the "copy settings files till it starts working"-route, please, but I dunno which files I should try10:02
jubo2lordievader[m]: Bigger disk and a side dish of Win1010:02
jubo2The Win10 has locked me out btw10:02
jubo2Says my password is not my password and thinks this machine has a fingerprint reader10:03
jubo2Horrible thing that Win10 anyways10:03
jubo2They've totally broken the UI from Win710:03
lordievader[m]See 'Loading a working sound configuration' from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Sound_Output_Troubleshooting10:04
jubo2asound.conf copied to the broken system and command to try the restore written to a piece of paper10:08
jubo2I reboot over to the system with borked audio10:08
jubo2Gonna try the restore state from asound.state10:10
jubo2lordievader: 'alsactl -F -f asound.state' says "specify command"10:12
jubo2I guess command is 'restore'10:12
jubo2nothing seems changed10:13
lordievader[m]No output on any of the devices?10:14
jubo2and the pulseaudio isn't spawning is my guess since the tab to try the "front left" and "front right10:14
jubo2nope. autospawn is yes10:15
jubo2I reboot10:15
jubo2Pulse is not running10:17
jubo2lordievader: how do I undo https://askubuntu.com/questions/8425/how-to-temporarily-disable-pulseaudio/10307#1030710:20
jubo2pulse ain't starting10:21
lordievader[m]How did you follow that bit?10:21
lordievader[m]The nice way? Or the not so nice way?10:21
jubo2ahh. yes. I see how to undo it.. was looking at the /etc/pulse/10:21
lordievader[m]If the nice way: rm ~/.pulse/client.conf10:21
jubo2BAH! Now there are no sound cards10:22
jubo2I try the asound.state restoration with pulse up10:22
jubo2I reboot10:23
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Guest70891hi10:38
Guest70891is it a good idea to encrypt my disk for a desktop installation?10:38
jubo2after I've copied the added and changed files I just need a screwdriver to switch the external disk to the cradle11:01
viewer|88135hi. Installed Kubuntu Wifi was working but after apt-get upgrade it doesnt work11:09
viewer|88135it shows that Wifi is connected, but no internet11:10
viewer|88135if i ping google.com i get temporary failure in name resolution11:11
viewer|88135if i ping google ip 74.125... i get 100% packet loss11:12
viewer|88135but i can ping my router 192.168.0.111:12
viewer|88135anyone knows whats the problem?11:13
lordievader[m]Router dropping packets?11:26
lordievader[m]Wrong gateway?11:26
viewer|88135internet works on my other computer11:27
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BluesKajHowdy folks12:14
ruslanHi12:23
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cronikMashtrying to register my nickname but when i type the verification msg im getting -NickServ- cronicMash is not registered.13:31
cronikMashi know its not registered, thats kinda what im trying to do13:31
cronikMashlol my bad done it, had a typo13:33
foxly@physios heyo! Sorry I connected and was knee deep in dumb work stuff- how's it goin?14:35
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Guest82391@search patterns of world history15:31
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webohwhat is the name of the plasma wayland package? what do I install?16:44
webohoh forget it. It is muon.16:48
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webohI have installed plasma-workspace-wayland on my computer. It won't run. Why won't it run? everything else works fine.18:00
webohinstead of running wayland or the OS seends me back to the login screen. Is it the graphics hardware?18:02
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webohboth weston and wayland should not be installed together. dump weston?18:10
nonyahello18:17
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ZiggitekHi Guys I'm stuck with Kubuntu installation from Flash Drive at the *Prepare  . Got a message with OK button and this is still18:45
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fabian__Hi, I just installed kubuntu 17.04, but when installing nvidia drivers, all the apps suddenly start to crash...20:47
fabian__and after rebooting, I cant even make it to the desktop20:47
fabian__am I stuck with the nouveau driver?20:48
valoriefabian__: the drivers have nothing to do with applications, afaik20:52
valoriehow did you install the drivers?20:53
fabian__sudo apt-get install nvidia-37520:54
fabian__but also tried in the driver menu, choosing the nvidia driver via checkbox20:54
fabian__same20:54
fabian__right after that I get a message in the message window, that every app got a crash, I cannot even reboot20:54
fabian__synaptic works fine ^^20:55
one_overHow do you fix the systemd-resolveddns looping error?20:55
fabian__only way to get back to desktop is to go into recovery mode, root console and sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*20:56
one_overfrom the log https://pastebin.com/ynxvFHtf20:56
fabian__:-|20:56
fabian__nobody here using kubuntu + nvidia and having issues..?21:00
menace1i have no issues, but my graphics chip is rather old.21:08
valoriefabian__: what happens when you restart? and which apps?21:08
valorieugh, it sounds like that nvidia driver is affecting something else in your system21:09
fabian__when I restart, after grub i'm presented with a strange scaled unencrypt input window of kubuntu that does not respond to my input, cant get any further21:09
* valorie is using 37821:09
valorieI had to add a ppa to do that, though21:10
fabian__when installed I cannot open or do anything, terminal, even reboot menu wont open, even reporting the error gives a crash itself21:10
valorienouveau wasn't bad; this is just slightly better looking21:10
fabian__ok, I'll go for 378 and try again :-)21:10
valoriewell, I would do some research first!21:10
fabian__just read the wiki and it said 375 was fine for me, and because driver manager recommended that I picked it21:11
valoriefind out from the nvidia site which is the best21:11
valorieright, but if you haven't added the drivers ppa, you can't be recommended a newer driver21:11
fabian__ok, maybe thats the problem21:11
valoriehuh, I notice driver manager wants me to using an even newer one21:12
fabian__I get 381 recommended21:12
valorieI wonder if that's wise21:12
valoriesame here21:12
fabian__and I used that in ubuntu, it worked fine there21:12
valorieI hesitate to change when things are already working fine21:13
valorielol21:13
fabian__me too :-D never change a running system, but I wanted full disk encryption and try out kubuntu, so I just set it up new :-P21:13
fabian__boom, here it goes... cant even open a terminal now..21:14
valorieI got away with running zesty as soon as the archives opened21:14
valoriebizarre21:14
valorieare you on 17.04?21:14
fabian__good I left one open to purge it... lets see if it works21:14
fabian__yes21:14
fabian__funny, after purging it, I can open a new terminal again21:15
fabian__wtf is this...21:15
fabian__not even rebootet or logged out21:15
valoriesounds like a very buggy driver21:21
valoriefor your system21:21
fabian__its a skylake board, Z170-A from ASUS, a intel i5 6600K and a GTX 1070, nothing too uncommon I would say... >.<21:22
fabian__and it just works fine under ubuntu, but it already crashed in ubuntu after I installed the kubuntu-desktop package... soo... something with KDE?21:23
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geniifabian__: If you feel adventurous, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa21:37
fabian__genii how does this help me? sry, dont get that21:38
geniifabian__: in Konsole ( or other terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa    ... then: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade21:39
geniifabian__: These are more updated drivers than what are in the normal repositories21:40
fabian__yes, already got them by now, but they dont work :-(21:40
geniiThe recommended for 1070 is apparently latest, 38121:42
fabian__yes, it does not like it too, the driver manager recommends it21:43
fabian__same problem, after purging, everything is fine again21:43
doylels21:44
doyleHey. After a crash I see a black screen after login, and in auth.log I have: Incorrect wrapping key for file [/home/user/.encryptfs/wrapped-passphrase]; rc = [-5].  Anyone know the fix?21:45
doyleI found a bug from 2008 that's been fixed that looks similar, but not exactly21:45
doyleIf you change your password via terminal, root# passwd user, for example, will that bunk it up?21:46
doyleHoly moly... That was it21:48
doyleChanged it back. Good to go.21:48
doyleHuh... how do you change pass via gui?21:51
doylefound it21:51
doyleI'm mr Fix it! It feels good! ....21:53
doylenope... change via gui still results in broken encryptfs relationship21:54
doyleIs not hte luks pass update slipstreamed with account password changes?21:56
doyle*home-dir encrypt21:56
doyleGot it. ecryptfs22:05
praisethemoonDear Kubuntu, thank you for this awesome OS.23:48
praisethemoonGood night fellas <323:48

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