[05:10] <lordievader[m]> Good morning
[05:17] <Me> Morning
[05:35] <lordievader[m]> Hey Me
[05:49] <wayneinforms> White Genocide Through Forced Immigration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80CNy3QaXlo
[07:39] <user|25499> how do i unistall this operating system
[07:39] <suici> why ?
[07:40] <suici> user25499
[07:40] <user|25499> bcause i dont like it and it does not allow be to use the fuction i need to everyday
[07:41] <user|25499> i cant download i tunes or anything else for that matter
[07:42] <suici> user|25499: find an itunes alternative or try it in WINE
[07:42] <user|25499> so how can i unistall
[07:42] <user|25499> okay how do i do that
[07:44] <user|25499> how am supposed to add music to my iphone or ipod when apple produces only allow itunes
[07:46] <suici> user|25499: apple and linux aren't friends
[07:46] <suici> apple itunes is proprietory
[07:47] <suici> user|25499: try running itunes for windows in WINE
[07:48] <user|25499> okAY
[07:48] <user|25499> thank you
[08:03] <hateball> !itunes
[08:21] <jubo2> I'm half way to giving up on trying to diagnose what killed the video decodecs and 100% of audio and just reinstall the system
[08:26] <jubo2> I wouldn't stay sane if I didn't have a healthy Kubuntu to the right of me that I can use to play media
[08:26] <jubo2> the broken machine will not play any audio and will not play any video
[09:01] <jubo2> lordievader: I don't know what is wrong / what broke the audio but my strong guess is that none of the video decodecs will play is somehow connected with the no-audio problem
[09:02] <lordievader[m]> Connected I'm sure, but not the cause ;)
[09:02] <lordievader[m]> Did you have a kernel update recently?
[09:03] <jubo2> I had one _after_ the audio stopped working
[09:03] <jubo2> I'm afraid the IME is doing bad things
[09:04] <jubo2> Intel Management Engine .. it is a computer inside the computer that the outer computer has no control over
[09:04] <jubo2> Disabling it in BIOS would be great if it only worked.. first it asks to change the default pass and then declines both the default and the new password upon reboot
[09:05] <jubo2> I've seen some other people complaining about this apparent inability to access the possibility to turn IME off
[09:06] <jubo2> When I got this machine the Win 10 complained like 10-15 times that my WiFi shared secret is not valid
[09:06] <jubo2> weird huh?
[09:06] <lordievader[m]> This sounds completely irrelevant.
[09:08] <lordievader[m]> Is pulseaudio running?
[09:13] <jubo2> Yeah
[09:13] <jubo2> 'ps aux | grep "pulse"' says
[09:13] <jubo2> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[09:13] <jubo2> is running
[09:15] <lordievader[m]> Disable the respawn and kill it.
[09:15] <lordievader[m]> Then try the different devices again via aplay.
[09:16] <jubo2> I know how to kill processes but I dunno where do I disable the respawn lordievader[m]
[09:17] <lordievader[m]> Second alinea: https://askubuntu.com/a/10307
[09:18] <jubo2> ok killed. what now?
[09:19] <lordievader[m]> Like I said, check the devices using aplay.
[09:21] <jubo2> aplay -l looks normal, aplay -L looks normal too
[09:22] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: where are the test sound files again? sorry don't recall
[09:22] <lordievader[m]> I ment selecting a device and seeing if you can play audio over it.
[09:22] <lordievader[m]> Like we did yesterday.
[09:22] <lordievader[m]> Also, ensure pa is not running.
[09:23] <jubo2> lordievader[m]:
[09:23] <jubo2> $ aplay --device default /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wavALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1052:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[09:23] <jubo2> aplay: main:788: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[09:24] <jubo2> I have a Kubuntu that has sounds intact to right of me.. how about copying the settings files from there, cross fingers and knock on wood
[09:24] <lordievader[m]> Try the plugdev ones ;)
[09:25] <lordievader[m]> Unless it runs exactly the same hardware (and versions) it is not going to help.
[09:25] <jubo2> device or resource busy
[09:26] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: but I also have a disk that has an intact Kubuntu17.04 that was installed right on this machine.. that would possibly do the trick, right?
[09:26] <lordievader[m]> Unless the problem lies with the kernel...
[09:27] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: which files should I get from the intact system?
[09:27] <jubo2> I plug it in
[09:27] <lordievader[m]> None, investigate the problem first.
[09:27] <lordievader[m]> Find out why the device is in use.
[09:27] <jubo2> I'm not the texiest person alive
[09:28] <jubo2> I just like my computer to work.. Not look at why it doesn't work. Sorry for userness
[09:28] <lordievader[m]> Does it work if you run the aplay command from root (sudo)?
[09:28] <jubo2> lets try
[09:28] <lordievader[m]> I understand that, but blindly copy pasting files is not helping.
[09:28] <lordievader[m]> Not unless you know what the problem is.
[09:29] <jubo2> I've fixed computer problems or at least workarounds with the blind method
[09:29] <jubo2> The conf files should not have changed the way they did. I didn't touch a thing in the audio settings before video decodecs and audio stopped working
[09:30] <jubo2> plus I'm out of coffee milk
[09:30] <jubo2> MAN MUSS MILCH HABEN MIT DER KAFFEEW
[09:35] <jubo2> I should be able to boot from the USB-to-SATAIII casing
[09:35] <jubo2> I've done that with Linux.. Windows won't have it but the hell with windows
[09:36] <jubo2> I try that
[09:39] <jubo2> lordievader: Now on the "old" Kubuntu17.04 and the sounds work
[09:40] <jubo2> please lets just try sudo cp stuff and hope it works method, yes?
[09:40] <lordievader[m]> I won't stop you.
[09:41] <lordievader[m]> The other one is 17.10?
[09:41] <jubo2> no 17.04
[09:41] <jubo2> When I reinstall I reinstall to a next disk, not the one I'm "retireing"
[09:41] <jubo2> just for psychological comfort I suppose
[09:49] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: Should I 'sudo apt upgrade' this one to test the kernel problem theory?
[09:50] <lordievader[m]> You could..
[09:50] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: plus I don't know where the files are that could do the trick with the copy-paste settings and hope for working audio
[09:51] <jubo2> But I recall that the audio broke prior to latest Kernel update
[09:52] <jubo2> now running the upgrades
[09:57] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: upgrade complete and sound is intact
[09:58] <jubo2> Kernel installed is 4.10.0-20-generic
[09:58] <lordievader[m]> Did you reboot?
[09:58] <jubo2> Not yet.. good point that
[09:58] <jubo2> Not a HURD
[09:58] <jubo2> I reboot
[10:01] <jubo2> lordievader: audio still intact after reboot
[10:02] <lordievader[m]> Nice
[10:02] <lordievader[m]> Begs the question, why did you do a reinstall?
[10:02] <jubo2> I'd like to try the "copy settings files till it starts working"-route, please, but I dunno which files I should try
[10:02] <jubo2> lordievader[m]: Bigger disk and a side dish of Win10
[10:02] <jubo2> The Win10 has locked me out btw
[10:03] <jubo2> Says my password is not my password and thinks this machine has a fingerprint reader
[10:03] <jubo2> Horrible thing that Win10 anyways
[10:03] <jubo2> They've totally broken the UI from Win7
[10:04] <lordievader[m]> See 'Loading a working sound configuration' from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Sound_Output_Troubleshooting
[10:08] <jubo2> asound.conf copied to the broken system and command to try the restore written to a piece of paper
[10:08] <jubo2> I reboot over to the system with borked audio
[10:10] <jubo2> Gonna try the restore state from asound.state
[10:12] <jubo2> lordievader: 'alsactl -F -f asound.state' says "specify command"
[10:12] <jubo2> I guess command is 'restore'
[10:13] <jubo2> nothing seems changed
[10:14] <lordievader[m]> No output on any of the devices?
[10:14] <jubo2> and the pulseaudio isn't spawning is my guess since the tab to try the "front left" and "front right
[10:15] <jubo2> nope. autospawn is yes
[10:15] <jubo2> I reboot
[10:17] <jubo2> Pulse is not running
[10:20] <jubo2> lordievader: how do I undo https://askubuntu.com/questions/8425/how-to-temporarily-disable-pulseaudio/10307#10307
[10:21] <jubo2> pulse ain't starting
[10:21] <lordievader[m]> How did you follow that bit?
[10:21] <lordievader[m]> The nice way? Or the not so nice way?
[10:21] <jubo2> ahh. yes. I see how to undo it.. was looking at the /etc/pulse/
[10:21] <lordievader[m]> If the nice way: rm ~/.pulse/client.conf
[10:22] <jubo2> BAH! Now there are no sound cards
[10:22] <jubo2> I try the asound.state restoration with pulse up
[10:23] <jubo2> I reboot
[10:38] <Guest70891> hi
[10:38] <Guest70891> is it a good idea to encrypt my disk for a desktop installation?
[11:01] <jubo2> after I've copied the added and changed files I just need a screwdriver to switch the external disk to the cradle
[11:09] <viewer|88135> hi. Installed Kubuntu Wifi was working but after apt-get upgrade it doesnt work
[11:10] <viewer|88135> it shows that Wifi is connected, but no internet
[11:11] <viewer|88135> if i ping google.com i get temporary failure in name resolution
[11:12] <viewer|88135> if i ping google ip 74.125... i get 100% packet loss
[11:12] <viewer|88135> but i can ping my router 192.168.0.1
[11:13] <viewer|88135> anyone knows whats the problem?
[11:26] <lordievader[m]> Router dropping packets?
[11:26] <lordievader[m]> Wrong gateway?
[11:27] <viewer|88135> internet works on my other computer
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:23] <ruslan> Hi
[13:31] <cronikMash> trying to register my nickname but when i type the verification msg im getting -NickServ- cronicMash is not registered.
[13:31] <cronikMash> i know its not registered, thats kinda what im trying to do
[13:33] <cronikMash> lol my bad done it, had a typo
[14:35] <foxly> @physios heyo! Sorry I connected and was knee deep in dumb work stuff- how's it goin?
[15:31] <Guest82391> @search patterns of world history
[16:44] <weboh> what is the name of the plasma wayland package? what do I install?
[16:48] <weboh> oh forget it. It is muon.
[18:00] <weboh> I have installed plasma-workspace-wayland on my computer. It won't run. Why won't it run? everything else works fine.
[18:02] <weboh> instead of running wayland or the OS seends me back to the login screen. Is it the graphics hardware?
[18:10] <weboh> both weston and wayland should not be installed together. dump weston?
[18:17] <nonya> hello
[18:45] <Ziggitek> Hi Guys I'm stuck with Kubuntu installation from Flash Drive at the *Prepare  . Got a message with OK button and this is still
[20:47] <fabian__> Hi, I just installed kubuntu 17.04, but when installing nvidia drivers, all the apps suddenly start to crash...
[20:47] <fabian__> and after rebooting, I cant even make it to the desktop
[20:48] <fabian__> am I stuck with the nouveau driver?
[20:52] <valorie> fabian__: the drivers have nothing to do with applications, afaik
[20:53] <valorie> how did you install the drivers?
[20:54] <fabian__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-375
[20:54] <fabian__> but also tried in the driver menu, choosing the nvidia driver via checkbox
[20:54] <fabian__> same
[20:54] <fabian__> right after that I get a message in the message window, that every app got a crash, I cannot even reboot
[20:55] <fabian__> synaptic works fine ^^
[20:55] <one_over> How do you fix the systemd-resolved	dns looping error?
[20:56] <fabian__> only way to get back to desktop is to go into recovery mode, root console and sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[20:56] <one_over> from the log https://pastebin.com/ynxvFHtf
[20:56] <fabian__> :-|
[21:00] <fabian__> nobody here using kubuntu + nvidia and having issues..?
[21:08] <menace1> i have no issues, but my graphics chip is rather old.
[21:08] <valorie> fabian__: what happens when you restart? and which apps?
[21:09] <valorie> ugh, it sounds like that nvidia driver is affecting something else in your system
[21:09] <fabian__> when I restart, after grub i'm presented with a strange scaled unencrypt input window of kubuntu that does not respond to my input, cant get any further
[21:09]  * valorie is using 378
[21:10] <valorie> I had to add a ppa to do that, though
[21:10] <fabian__> when installed I cannot open or do anything, terminal, even reboot menu wont open, even reporting the error gives a crash itself
[21:10] <valorie> nouveau wasn't bad; this is just slightly better looking
[21:10] <fabian__> ok, I'll go for 378 and try again :-)
[21:10] <valorie> well, I would do some research first!
[21:11] <fabian__> just read the wiki and it said 375 was fine for me, and because driver manager recommended that I picked it
[21:11] <valorie> find out from the nvidia site which is the best
[21:11] <valorie> right, but if you haven't added the drivers ppa, you can't be recommended a newer driver
[21:11] <fabian__> ok, maybe thats the problem
[21:12] <valorie> huh, I notice driver manager wants me to using an even newer one
[21:12] <fabian__> I get 381 recommended
[21:12] <valorie> I wonder if that's wise
[21:12] <valorie> same here
[21:12] <fabian__> and I used that in ubuntu, it worked fine there
[21:13] <valorie> I hesitate to change when things are already working fine
[21:13] <valorie> lol
[21:13] <fabian__> me too :-D never change a running system, but I wanted full disk encryption and try out kubuntu, so I just set it up new :-P
[21:14] <fabian__> boom, here it goes... cant even open a terminal now..
[21:14] <valorie> I got away with running zesty as soon as the archives opened
[21:14] <valorie> bizarre
[21:14] <valorie> are you on 17.04?
[21:14] <fabian__> good I left one open to purge it... lets see if it works
[21:14] <fabian__> yes
[21:15] <fabian__> funny, after purging it, I can open a new terminal again
[21:15] <fabian__> wtf is this...
[21:15] <fabian__> not even rebootet or logged out
[21:21] <valorie> sounds like a very buggy driver
[21:21] <valorie> for your system
[21:22] <fabian__> its a skylake board, Z170-A from ASUS, a intel i5 6600K and a GTX 1070, nothing too uncommon I would say... >.<
[21:23] <fabian__> and it just works fine under ubuntu, but it already crashed in ubuntu after I installed the kubuntu-desktop package... soo... something with KDE?
[21:37] <genii> fabian__: If you feel adventurous, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:38] <fabian__> genii how does this help me? sry, dont get that
[21:39] <genii> fabian__: in Konsole ( or other terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa    ... then: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[21:40] <genii> fabian__: These are more updated drivers than what are in the normal repositories
[21:40] <fabian__> yes, already got them by now, but they dont work :-(
[21:42] <genii> The recommended for 1070 is apparently latest, 381
[21:43] <fabian__> yes, it does not like it too, the driver manager recommends it
[21:43] <fabian__> same problem, after purging, everything is fine again
[21:44] <doyle> ls
[21:45] <doyle> Hey. After a crash I see a black screen after login, and in auth.log I have: Incorrect wrapping key for file [/home/user/.encryptfs/wrapped-passphrase]; rc = [-5].  Anyone know the fix?
[21:45] <doyle> I found a bug from 2008 that's been fixed that looks similar, but not exactly
[21:46] <doyle> If you change your password via terminal, root# passwd user, for example, will that bunk it up?
[21:48] <doyle> Holy moly... That was it
[21:48] <doyle> Changed it back. Good to go.
[21:51] <doyle> Huh... how do you change pass via gui?
[21:51] <doyle> found it
[21:53] <doyle> I'm mr Fix it! It feels good! ....
[21:54] <doyle> nope... change via gui still results in broken encryptfs relationship
[21:56] <doyle> Is not hte luks pass update slipstreamed with account password changes?
[21:56] <doyle> *home-dir encrypt
[22:05] <doyle> Got it. ecryptfs
[23:48] <praisethemoon> Dear Kubuntu, thank you for this awesome OS.
[23:48] <praisethemoon> Good night fellas <3