[01:16] <jsqu> is anyone here?
[01:18] <KTrad> Yup
[01:30] <jsqu_> which desktop environment do you use？
[01:30] <KTrad> Depends on the computer. But gnome3 and mate. When I'm on my laptop working on a we server awesomewm
[01:31] <KTrad> Web*
[01:38] <KTrad> You?
[06:07] <jsqu_> I use the gnome3 and mate,too
[06:08] <alkisg> He left :)
[06:08] <alkisg> 5 hours ago
[07:00] <justxux> Hi folks,does this x-swat ppa with latest mesa works in Mate too?
[07:02] <ouroumov> Hello justxux. I don't know. Does it work with regular ubuntu?
[07:11] <justxux> Yes
[07:13] <justxux> Ubuntu Mate looks like a good distro,with all this hussle around Ubuntu -> Gnome thing. Linux Mint is not an option,tried it. So this PPA would help me game on Linux to some extent.
[09:42] <mate|45906> I have just downloaded yout ubuntu-made file .It has extension.iso.I made one image of the file in a mad memory card and insert into my raspberry.The file does not initiate, nor start.Thrasp has supply but is off.
[09:42] <mate|45906> can can start the ubuntu-mate in the raspberry?
[09:47] <ouroumov> mate|45906, hi
[09:48] <ouroumov> mate|45906, the RPi image type is not iso.
[09:48] <ouroumov> mate|45906, this is the correct image you should use: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img.xz
[09:49] <ouroumov> mate|45906, follow the instructions here: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ for microSD creation
[10:32] <mate|45906> thank you i am going to try that
[12:19] <mate|12381> as i was suggested in lat chat i am downloading the file for raspberry. Acoording to the information the architecture of this package is ARMHF.After installing this package i am going to try to install programs in packages with architecture amd64 as shashlik.I am going to have problems?
[12:21] <mate|12381> is there any installation of ubuntu-mate that prevent problemwith future AMD64 packages installed with "sudo dpkg -i futurepackage.deb"
[12:24] <Astro7467> mate|12381: at it's simplest, you can not cross install architectures like that
[12:24] <Astro7467> AFAIK all amd64 packages in the official repositories are also available on armhf
[12:27] <Astro7467> also some packages are architecture agnostic eg python based apps
[12:29] <mate|12381> first paragraph in the installation guide says Martin Wimpress and Rohith Madhavan have made an Ubuntu MATE image for the Raspberry Pi 2 and Raspberry Pi 3 based on the regular Ubuntu armhf base, not the new Ubuntu “Snappy” Core, which means that the installation procedure for applications uses the traditional tools, ie apt-get."
[12:30] <mate|12381> which is the difference between the "snappy core" AND THE "armhf base"
[12:32] <mate|12381> first paragraph in the installation guide says Martin Wimpress and Rohith Madhavan have made an Ubuntu MATE image for the Raspberry Pi 2 and Raspberry Pi 3 based on the regular Ubuntu armhf base, not the new Ubuntu “Snappy” Core, which means that the installation procedure for applications uses the traditional toolsie apt-get."
[12:32] <mate|12381> which is the difference between the "snappy core" AND THE "armhf base"
[12:33] <mate|12381> 2º) "ubuntu-mate 17.01 has the core snappy or armhf"
[12:34] <mate|12381> 3º) Raspberri p3 has amd micro and 64bits can be install ubuntu-mate in raspberry p3?
[12:34] <Astro7467> pi3 has arm64 not amd64
[12:36] <mate|12381> can be installed ubuntu-mate 17.01 in raspberry p3?
[12:37] <mate|12381> i undesrtand i asked several question, and answer needs to go step by step
[12:39] <Astro7467> AFAIK 16.04 is only available. there is some consideration of a 17.04 or 17.10 (when released)
[12:40] <mate|12381> which is the difference between the "snappy core" AND THE "armhf base"
[14:04] <nathan> vim right now automatically adds tabs and such when I'm working on a cpp file. I'm not used to that... how can I change it? I don't see any settings in the only vimrc I can find
[14:05] <ouroumov> nathan, no clue but I don't think this is strictly an Ubuntu MATE problem so maybe ask on the #ubuntu or vim support channel.
[14:06] <nathan> only asked here because it didn't do it on my ubuntu desktop, but thanks, I'll check there
[14:13] <KTrad> just use nano it's better anyways :P
[14:15] <mate|12381> first paragraph in the installation guide says Martin Wimpress and Rohith Madhavan have made an Ubuntu MATE image for the Raspberry Pi 2 and Raspberry Pi 3 based on the regular Ubuntu armhf base, not the new Ubuntu “Snappy” Core, which means that the installation procedure for applications uses the traditional toolsie apt-get."
[14:15] <mate|12381> which is the difference between the "snappy core" AND THE "armhf base"
[14:17] <ouroumov> mate|12381, if you want to use Ubuntu MATE on a RPi, just use the RPi image, and know that amd64 arch programs won't work. If you really care to know the answer to this question, I recommend you ask on our forums, or on the main ubuntu forums.
[14:18] <mate|12381> there is no way to make work amd64 arch programs in raspberry p3?
[14:18] <mate|12381> it has a micro of 64 bits
[14:21] <mate|12381> ubuntu mate 17.01 has "snappy  core"?
[14:22] <KTrad> you mean 17.04? And I believe they all do since 16.04
 there is no way to make work amd64 arch programs in raspberry p3? Again, No.
[14:22] <KTrad> assuming you mean snap packaches
[14:38] <mate|12381> what i want is after installing ubuntu-maye in p3,even if i have to install version17.01, install then shalshlik a packagege that allows to run android apps and is intalled with command "dpkg -i futurepackage.deb"
[14:39] <mate|12381> i thinkck this is a snappy command
[14:39] <mate|12381> and has arch amd64
[14:39] <KTrad> amd64 is binary incompatible with ARM
[14:40] <KTrad> They are 2 completely different architectures
[14:40] <mate|12381> do you now any package compatible with ARM that allow to run apps of android in raspberry?
[14:41] <KTrad> why not run android? https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/android-raspberry-pi/
[14:42] <mate|12381> because i have one script in dabian-ubuntu that runs a videolooper
[14:42] <mate|12381> and i do not know what kind of videolooper i can use in android
[14:43] <ouroumov> mate|12381, the only version of Ubuntu MATE for RPi is 16.04
[14:44] <KTrad> This is the latest info I can find about somehting called ARChon but is says for RPI1&2
[14:44] <KTrad> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=105297
[14:45] <mate|12381> I have another script that runs firefox and uses this browser to navigate for a web automatically.Is there any way to install firefox in android and program a script similar there?
[14:45] <KTrad> firefox has an android version in the play store
[14:46] <mate|12381> and is possible to make a script in android to navigate through a web without operator intervene?
[14:47] <KTrad> but now you're asking about something completely unrelated to Ubuntu MATE. As far as I know ARChon is the best bet to run APKs in Linux on RPi3 since android for RPi seems buggy at best. I'd suggest just getting a tablet.
[14:48] <mate|12381> apologize my ignorance, what is a "APK"?
[14:48] <KTrad> the packages that android apps come in
[14:48] <KTrad> It's like an android equivalent of .deb
[14:49] <mate|12381> do you have a link to get this package , the APK?
[14:49] <mate|12381> and install undet ubumtu-maye 16.04
[14:50] <KTrad> I'm not sure what you're asking. Take a look at ARChon which supposedly allows you to run APKs inside chrome on Linux.
[14:51] <mate|12381> the steps will be install 16.04 ubuntu-mate ,then the achron package and thenone android apps.My question is from where i can get ARChon ?
[14:51] <KTrad> I linked you to the post
[14:52] <KTrad> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=105297
[14:52] <KTrad> Not sure if it will work as I have no experience with it. That was just the result of quick googling.
[14:52] <KTrad> Still think you're better off running android on the RPi3 or just getting a tablet/phone
[14:56] <mate|12381> i can not use a tablet/phne because the rasp are already install in client premises with fabian hardware. My only chance is tio incorporate android emulators to linux programs
[14:56] <KTrad> fair enough
[14:57] <KTrad> From what I'm reading it doesn't work that great though
[14:58] <mate|12381> last question firefox works with ubuntu-MATE with good audio?
[14:58] <KTrad> Do you mean it plays audio? Yea it works at least on x86 haven't played with RPi myself in a long time
[14:59] <KTrad> But I would think that it works
[14:59] <KTrad> Isn't this something you should do/figure out before money is spent and hardware is installed? Or did they purchase before consulting?
[15:01] <mate|12381> i used firefox on raspberry with jessy-raspberry an viedeos show the images but the sound is out. mDOUBT IS NOW IF WITH UBUNTU-mate IS GOING To have the same problem or audio will be good
[15:01] <KTrad> That I can't help you on as I have no experience running MATE on an RPi.
[15:02] <mate|12381> thanks for your help i will pit on chat the results so as you can get the information
[15:02] <KTrad> kk
[15:04] <Astro7467> mate|12381: on raspberry pi AFAIK you need to edit the config.txt file on the boot partition to change the audio out port (ie. HDMI or jack port) - for raspbian and Ubuntu - from memory think MATE image is built with HDMI as default for audio
[15:06] <Astro7467> the ubuntu-mate.org community has a lot of this info already
[15:10] <KTrad> I have been non existant in the ubuntu-mate.community and feel pretty bad about that :/ Been dealing with a lot of crap the last year
[19:00] <ouroumov__> flexiondotorg, you have a minute?
[19:00] <flexiondotorg> o/
[19:07] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov Hello?
[20:16] <khw> The weather app has been missing the U.S. radar map for several releases.  I read in the forums that it came back at some point for some people.  But not me.  I'm running the latest, which says Mate 1.18.0
[20:44] <Guest68280> Hello, my mate is partially in french. But the french language isn't installed. How can I switch the system completely to germany?