[00:00] <MiguelFuller> txt.do/d9cd7
[00:01] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: the network is 100 the nic is 100 stock
[00:01] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: ??
[00:01] <MiguelFuller> that's my nic using that lspci comand
[00:01] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: what speed is your card running at when it auto negotiates
[00:01] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: it doesnm't change from 1mbit
[00:01] <MiguelFuller> is so safe mode now
[00:01] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: what ?
[00:01] <ikonia> a card won't negotiate to 1mb
[00:02] <ikonia> what is the link speed of your card if it auto negotiates
[00:02] <MiguelFuller> if not then something is wrong
[00:02] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: is this a wired or wireless card
[00:02] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: wired
[00:02] <ikonia> right - so when you plug a cable in, what is the confirmed link speed it auto negotiates to
[00:03] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: last time I chcked with ethtool it didn't say when I put ethtool -s enp2s0
[00:04] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: ethtool $device
[00:04] <ikonia> what is the speed and duplex of the connection when it autonegotiates
[00:04] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: yes that
[00:04] <Pristine> Hello!! Just got a New system, but it crashed during the network-setup... then it aborted the rest of the install and has locked me into the "guest" account.  Online web pages say to hold shift to get to the boot menu for a recovery-concole, but that's not working and it just boots into anyways.  What do I do to create a user/password?
[00:04] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: it didn't say
[00:04] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: very unlikley
[00:05] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: then I changed it to manual but still slow
[00:05] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: I can check again
[00:05] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: pastebin the output of ethtool $device name when it is auto negotiating
[00:05] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: k
[00:07] <BlenderPro> ikonia, the laptop is rebooting
[00:07] <nicholosophy> So they, why does systemd-resolved suck so much that I have to go put google's dns servers in my resolv.conf each time I reboot?
[00:07] <nicholosophy> rather than it just working like it should without them
[00:07] <ikonia> it works just fine
[00:13] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: only 2 lines displayed: settings for enp2s0. Supports wake-on: d Wake-on: d
[00:13] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: that's it
[00:13] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: what exact version of ubuntu is this
[00:13] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: 16.04 it's xubuntu
[00:14] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: and you get two lines out of ethtool enp2s0
[00:14] <ikonia> nothing more
[00:14] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: yea
[00:14] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: lspci says I'm using tulip but lsmod says tulip is not being used by anything
[00:14] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: that card must be the worst example of a network card if it doesn't advertise basic information
[00:14] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: what is the chipset on the card
[00:15] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: I don't know is there a command? netgear doc I think it says unspecified
[00:17] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: it shouldn't matter for basic link speed, but are you using "sudo" and what is the EXACT command you are running
[00:19] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: ethool? just sudo ethtool enp2s0
[00:20] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: that card must suck card
[00:20] <ikonia> hard
[00:21] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: it was good in xp
[00:22] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: is there another drive I can use to try out my luck
[00:22] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: "it was good in XP" doesn't really mean it's a good and well supported linux card
[00:22] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: another "drive" ?
[00:22] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: driver
[00:23] <ikonia> MiguelFuller: you need to know the chipset and what driver supports that chipset
[00:44] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: txt.do/d9clu
[00:44] <MiguelFuller> ikonia: that's hardware info I got for my card from hwinfo
[00:49] <prasol> does anyone know how can I enable core dump for my process.
[00:53] <Pristine> Hello!! Just got a New system, but it crashed during the network-setup... then it aborted the rest of the install and has locked me into the "guest" account. Online web pages say to hold shift to get to the boot menu for a recovery-concole, but that's not working and it just boots into anyways. What do I do to create a user/password?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Pristine: Why not just start the install process once more ?
[00:57] <Pristine> I don't have any install media.
[00:57] <student> hi
[00:57] <Pristine> *Waves*
[00:58] <Pristine> They may have the install disks back at the company that made the machine, but they didn't send them to me.
[00:59] <Ben64> Pristine: how would it abort the install if it came preinstalled?
[00:59] <Ben64> is this even ubuntu?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Pristine: If this new system is EFI, it is the escape key that grub recognizes. spam the escape key as soon as the firmware clears ( 3 second window of oportunity ) . From the recovery mode one can work .
[01:00] <Pristine> Yes, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.  It needed to finalize the install (Create account, name the PC, etc), but when it asked for the wireless info, it crashed and never created the account.
[01:00] <Pristine> Escape...  Trying that!
[01:02] <Pristine> Ahhh!!  That's worked!  Now I can follow the steps shown online!!  Thanks!
[01:02] <Bashing-om> Pristine: Also you want the initial set up to be via a wired connection !
[01:02] <Buddy> is this where we ask question regarding to ubuntu stuff?
[01:02] <Guest99126> hi
[01:02] <Pristine> I'll know that for next time. ;)
[01:03] <Ben64> Guest99126: yes
[01:03] <Guest99126> how was my name changed?
[01:03] <Ben64> because "Buddy" was taken by someone else
[01:03] <Guest99126> did I offend someone with Duffman?
[01:03] <Guest99126> oh
[01:04] <Guest99126> alot of ppl in here
[01:06] <nassy> i insatall ubuntu live 17.04 on a usb thumb drive and was able to boot a mac book air with it. i was able to connect to wifi after going to one of the tabs in the system preferences > software updates and loading properity drivers.
[01:06] <nassy> i took that same live usb drive and installed the os on another usb drive
[01:06] <nolsen>  Anyone know a page on how to install ubuntu by the command line? I'm trying to put this old machine into some good use, and I only have a CD with a desktop.
[01:06] <nassy> but now when i run the os i cant get the properity wifi drivers to load
[01:07] <nolsen> How do I run that beloved "command line installation" that is found on the minimal iso?
[01:08] <nassy> any idea what to look for to figure out what the difference is between the live usb and the os installed
[01:10] <marquezini> why canonical will stop update unity?
[01:10] <marquezini> these guays are crazy
[01:11] <marquezini> i will install xfce ontop debian
[01:11] <marquezini> not xubuntu
[01:11] <Guest37450> hello
[01:12] <Guest37450> 有中国人吗
[01:12] <marquezini> [i dont speak chinese man
[01:12] <marquezini> speak english
[01:12] <marquezini> or espanol
[01:12] <ChaiTRex> !cn | Guest37450
[01:12] <Guest37450> ok
[01:19] <Bashing-om> nolsen: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems .
[01:20] <nolsen> Bashing-om: That tells me to burn another iso...I have no more disks
[01:20] <Bashing-om> nolsen: If you have the minimal install CD, there is no need to burn another .
[01:21] <nolsen>  I don't.
[01:21] <nolsen> All I have is an old ubuntu disk that reached EOL, I planned on installing it, then upgrading to 17.04
[01:21] <nolsen> s/ubuntu/lubuntu
[01:23] <Bashing-om> nolsen: That too will work . But can be a long hard road to upgrade from a EOL release .
[01:23] <nolsen> (We're talking about lubuntu 15.04)
[01:24] <Bashing-om> nolsen: 15.04 ->15.10 ->16.04 . Not to bad .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !eol | nolsen
[01:26] <jsqu_> I'm a tiro
[01:26] <migs_> hello
[01:26] <jsqu_> hello
[01:27] <jsqu_> hoe are you
[01:27] <zeos> hello
[01:27] <migs_> hey does anyone know a good screen recorder for ubuntu
[01:27] <jsqu_> ~~~
[01:27] <migs_> I am great
[01:27] <migs_> and u
[01:27] <jsqu_> thank you ~~
[01:27] <migs_> like a screenshot program
[01:28] <jsqu_> sorry,I do't know
[01:30] <zeos> how about instanbul for a screen recorder
[01:32] <migs_> zeos is it inthe ubuntu store
[01:32] <Ben64> migs_: simplescreenrecorder
[01:33] <migs_> Ben64, do you have a lnk
[01:34] <Ben64> !info simplescreenrecorder | migs_
[01:34] <zeos> not sure.  I mistyped it is istanbul.
[01:35] <zeos> it used to at least come with kali based on ubuntu so I thought so but not sure.
[01:37] <zeos> it looks like it is only in the testing and unstable repos right now.
[01:43] <Anonym0us> where can i read about what the different names of sources.list means, like non-free contrib main universal and so on?
[01:45] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:46] <Anonym0us> thanks ChaiTRex, 2) how do i find out if software installed on my computer reports anything such as crash reports and so on?
[01:46] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: I'm not sure. By default, a crash should ask you whether you want to.
[01:46] <Anonym0us> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu does not explain what contrib is
[01:47] <Anonym0us> ChaiTRex ^
[01:47] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: Are you using Debian?
[01:48] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers
[01:49] <Anonym0us> nope BUT i would like to install a software that needs contrib
[01:49] <Anonym0us> (i think..) virtualbox it is
[01:50] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: Mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories is a bad idea. Enabling multiverse in Ubuntu should do it, according to the last URL I gave.
[01:51] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: At least according to that, multiverse is the union of contrib and non-free, so you should get contrib's software through that.
[01:51] <Anonym0us> so how do i install virtualbox on ubuntu, i might ask duckduckgo before asking here.. 2 sc
[01:53] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: Follow along here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads (note that contrib there is VirtualBox's contrib, not Debian's or Ubuntu's).
[01:54] <Anonym0us> and what exact is contrib?
[01:55] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: It's what they named the repository.
[01:56] <Anonym0us> ok, is virtualbox free as in freedom, or open source or is there a source code available online for it?
[01:57] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: It's GPL 2, except for the Extension Pack. See https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ
[01:58] <Anonym0us> ty
[02:00] <ChaiTRex> Anonym0us: You're welcome.
[02:00] <zhk> lkk
[02:02] <Anonym0us> i like GPL
[02:02] <Anonym0us> (2)
[02:02] <Anonym0us> read # 2. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ
[02:25] <Anonym0us> what does this means? E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:25] <Anonym0us> i mean, how do i fix it?
[02:26] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, What is the full error?
[02:27] <Anonym0us> ehm.. how do i remove broken packages?
[02:27] <GP> Hello peopleA
[02:27] <Guest72401> Hello people.
[02:27] <Anonym0us> hello Guest
[02:27] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, Again, what is the full error please...?
[02:27] <Anonym0us> the full error?
[02:27] <Anonym0us> 2sec
[02:27] <Guest72401> Quick question  how can i register an acctuall Nick name here?
[02:27] <Anonym0us> /msg nickserv help
[02:28] <Anonym0us> /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[02:28] <Anonym0us> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt5opengl5-gles : Conflicts: libqt5opengl5 but 5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.2 is to be installed
[02:28] <Anonym0us> YankDownUnder
[02:29] <Anonym0us> Guest72401 /msg nickserv help
[02:29] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, Just try this in a terminal: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[02:29] <Anonym0us> /msg nickserv register help
[02:30] <Menzador> Anonym0us: That usually means libqt5opengl5 (without the OpenGLES bindings) is required by something else you have installed, or both packages incorrectly got listed as dependencies (in a one-or-the-other situation)
[02:32] <Anonym0us> hey wtf when running upgrade it tells me that login passwd linux-firmware bash will be upgraded. i have never seen this before!
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, Just let it do it's thing until it's finished. Patience.
[02:32] <Anonym0us> but i just upgraded recently
[02:33] <Anonym0us> have " bash linux-firmware login passwd " just recently got any changes to it?
[02:34] <daksha> https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxmqXkWKzhV
[02:35] <midhun> i installed ubuntu 14.04 and audio is not working
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, If you merely run the commands I gave to you - and WAIT...let it complete it's course, you should have no further issues with "unmet dependencies". Worry about that first, and then move on to the next issue.
[02:36] <Anonym0us> well i have upgraded, but i am still curious about why they so suddenly need to???
[02:37] <YankDownUnder> midhun, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, It's merely a command - it's using apt to "fix" broken packages through an installation - correcting (hopefully) that issue - it's upgrading any other packages that might have "choked" in among the other issues of "unmet dependencies" - as is often the issue. Does that make sense?
[02:38] <midhun> @YankDownUnder let me check that thanks
[02:39] <Anonym0us> YankDownUnder: yep, just want to ask if there was a security risk before they got upgraded
[02:40] <YankDownUnder> Anonym0us, No...t'ain't one.
[02:47] <Jakethepython1> hello room i am trying to install office in wine and it says i need a newer version of windows
[02:47] <Jakethepython1> is there a way to fix this?
[02:47] <YankDownUnder> Jakethepython1, Best to ask in the #wine channel(s)
[02:47] <Jakethepython1> ok thanks
[02:48] <Jakethepython1> i didn't know if one exsited or not
[02:50] <LetterRip> what has replaced libopenjpeg-dev?
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> LetterRip, It appears to still be in the repositories...at least for 16.04.2...
[02:57] <meesum> guys can someone help me to access gnome colour mananger on ubuntu
[02:57] <YankDownUnder> meesum, It's not showing up in "gnome-control-center"?
[02:57] <meesum> how do i open gnome control center
[02:58] <meesum> im completely new to linux
[02:58] <YankDownUnder> meesum, You should be able to just search for "control" -> and an option for either Unity control center or Gnome control center will show (should show)
[02:58] <LetterRip> YankDownUnder, it isn't though for 17.04
[02:59] <meesum> in the dash?
[02:59] <YankDownUnder> meesum, You're apparently using Unity - so yes.
[03:00] <YankDownUnder> LetterRip, Then that's something to "dig into" - as 17.04 is a recent release and not an LTS release...I'm sure there are reasons for that...but that means digging into the wikis/forums, matey.
[03:00] <meesum> i searched in the dash and the only relevant result wasiced tea webcontrol panel
[03:02] <YankDownUnder> meesum, Being that I do not use Unity (hate Unity, really) - there should be (as it's in the repos) a "Unity Control Center" that should be able to be accessed - what it's called in "Dash" - I do not know...but it does exist and should be already installed by default...
[03:02] <meesum> i have two applications called color and color profile viewer
[03:02] <meesum> but neither allow me to change any color settings, or im unaware how to
[03:03] <LetterRip> YankDownUnder, it looks like blender keeps its own version and i'd misconfigured cmake
[03:03] <LetterRip> YankDownUnder, thanks for the help
[03:03] <YankDownUnder> LetterRip, There are PPA's for "Blender" -> if you're not aware of that...but good luck, matey...keep on keeping on...
[03:04] <YankDownUnder> meesum, Something to have a look at - might help a bit, bro.... => https://www.howtogeek.com/113330/how-to-master-ubuntus-unity-desktop-8-things-you-need-to-know/
[03:07] <orbi> hi guys/gays/misc.   I am exhausted and have rarely used Ubuntu before.  I am looking for he place whre PS1=\u@\h \w \$ is set.  i cant find it in profile or bash profile
[03:07] <orbi> can anyone render assistance?
[03:08] <orbi> 4
[03:08] <orbi> t renewal
[03:08] <skinnymg1> hello everyone
[03:09] <nicholosophy> orbi: .bashrc
[03:10] <Bashing-om> orbi: Looj in the .bashrc file .
[03:11] <Bashing-om> look*
[03:12] <orbi> cast he/aling touchc
[03:12] <orbi> Aardwulfst r00ter_enewal
[03:16] <orbi> oopsy
[03:16] <orbi> well, it's not in .bashrc.. i squished that
[03:17] <meesum> i have the gnome color mananger installed apparently i dont know how to find or acces it
[03:17] <orbi> i'm particular about my PS1's.   I still use the same one from slackware 1
[03:19] <YankDownUnder> meesum, Did you look through the website I shot you - about getting familiar with the Unity desktop and how to use it?
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> orbi, Either in the ~/.bashrc or the ~/.bash_profile => therein lies the answer
[03:47] <orbitoo> Bashing-om: drush
[03:47] <orbitoo> this is why i like slackare 1.01.
[03:47] <orbitoo> or LFS.
[03:47] <orbitoo> or Xenix.
[03:47] <ktechmidas> guys, how do I get Chinese language support in Ubuntu 17.04?
[03:48] <orbitoo> just kidding about the last one.  Xenix or OpenServer make me need to visit a hospital.
[03:48] <ktechmidas> more input rather than language
[03:48] <ktechmidas> I just need the input, don't want the whole thing in Chinese
[03:48] <ktechmidas> I've tried going to "Text Entry Settings" and adding a Chinese input source
[03:49] <ktechmidas> but it doesn't seem to have done anything
[03:49] <ktechmidas> I guess I need an IME?
[03:51] <YankDownUnder> ktechmidas, I used to like Xenix quite a bit...could have 8 slave workstations hanging off of a single 386 server...(back in the day)
[03:51] <ktechmidas> ... wrong person YankDownUnder ?
[03:52] <ktechmidas> I do recall Xenix... licensed by MS IIRC?
[03:52] <orbitoo> xenix was ok for the 80s and a microsoft unix
[03:52] <orbitoo> imagine if windows had been built on it
[03:52] <orbitoo> we'd have had powershell in the 80s or 90s
[03:54] <YankDownUnder> ktechmidas, Yeah - was wrong person - either which, I'll assume you've sorted out languages in the software manager at this point?
[03:57] <YankDownUnder> ktechmidas, Something to read up on: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-layouts.html
[03:58] <orbi> I will be glad when this laptop is replaced this week
[03:59] <orbi> the network interface is screwy
[03:59] <amicrawler> need some help please
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> orbi, A large hammer can do wonders for screwy NIC's
[03:59] <amicrawler> have a new i5 8GB ram hp z200
[03:59] <amicrawler> will not see the 3TB drive
[04:00] <amicrawler> in bios
[04:00] <orbi> percussive maintainence, or US Army maint proc #1,
[04:00] <orbi> does not work on ethernet
[04:00] <amicrawler> ubuntu see it all day but when reboot from thumb stick will not boot
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, Not really quite sure what exactly is going on - you're kinda scattering your information...can you possibly contain all the viable information on a single line so it's more easily understood?
[04:02] <amicrawler> ubuntu see it all day but when reboot from thumb stick will not boot  i have a 3TB drive will not boot ubuntu
[04:02] <amicrawler> after i remove the thumb stick from computer
[04:02] <amicrawler> drive goes to grub resue
[04:04] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, Ok...let's start from the top. You have a 3tb drive that BIOS does not see, yes?
[04:05] <amicrawler> i have ubuntu 16.04 x64 installed on it but when i reboot it goes to gurb recue will not boot to gui  on the thumb driver live see the drive all day long
[04:05] <amicrawler> YankDownUnder: yes
[04:05] <amicrawler> i have a 3TB drive
[04:06] <amicrawler> usb live boot see drive no issues
[04:06] <ledeni>                 
[04:06] <amicrawler> when reboot computer with out usb stick drive does not boot goes to grub
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, And you have checked ALL the BIOS settings - and have checked the drive and the drive settings (and have read the instructions that came with the drive - and read the instructions that came with the motherboard) - FIRST THINGS FIRST, hmm?
[04:07] <amicrawler> why would it see it as a 2nd drive but not a primary drive with a os on it ?
[04:08] <confusedcoder> I have been struggling with a unbootable Ubuntu problem for two days now -- can anyone take a look? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361522
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, Step by step. First is to figure out the BIOS. Everything else is after that.
[04:08] <amicrawler> it is v1.03
[04:08] <orbi> grub?  lilo ftw.  silo for sparc.
[04:08] <amicrawler> i run ubuntu only
[04:09] <amicrawler> not winblozes
[04:09] <orbi> :D
[04:09] <orbi> i use winddows b/c i am a beta tester (official)..my job (was) an integration specialist.. win/unix/z10
[04:09] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, What is "v1.03"? I asked if you really really really looked through BIOS and really really really checked your 3tb drive - for settings or options...
[04:10] <amicrawler> i did
[04:10] <amicrawler> ubuntu wants to format the drive as a 3TB hole
[04:10] <orbi> i found a few bugcheck conditions.. and the ability to run windbg impresses clients
[04:10] <amicrawler> not into to diffrent partions
[04:11] <amicrawler> the biso as it stands supports up to 2TB
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> amicrawler, And the drive is a SATA drive and it's plugged into the HDD0 or HDD1 master SATA socket on the motherboard, yes?
[04:11] <researcher123> Hello everybody.I am on virtual box. Cant access internet from Guest OS Windows. Any help please?
[04:11] <amicrawler> yes i have 6 sata ports on the borad
[04:11] <amicrawler> they are in 1,2,3
[04:13] <Anonym0us> do you use any anti virus/malware software and if yes, which one do you use?
[04:14] <YankDownUnder> researcher123, You might want to check the "virtual networking" settings for the VM - that could be the issue...try using the "bridged" networking - and also, make sure you install the "Guest Additions" into the VM
[04:14] <researcher123> YankDownUnder: ok. Im trying
[04:15] <Golfgeo> Hi all! :-) Got a question: My dual monitor setup is weird and my left and right screens are reversed on the login screen. Is this because of how the videocard assignes "numbers" to the screens or is this set in config when one installs the system? I'm looking to "swap" the screens to there proper left and right orientation even for the login screen.
[04:16] <Golfgeo> So atm my right screen is identified as #1 and my left one is identified as #2.
[04:16] <YankDownUnder> Golfgeo, You can always reconfigure the layout of the monitors with "xrandr" - and create a permanent setup with that...that is, unless you can get it setup through the "Displays" prefs in your control center
[04:18] <Golfgeo> YankDownUnder: It's not the layout, but the more lowlevel assignment of "monitor number" that I'm looking to correct
[04:18] <Golfgeo> It's just weird that my mouse won't move over to the left screen when moving it to that left screen.
[04:19] <Golfgeo> If I want the login screen to appear on that left screen I need to cross the right edge of my right monitor... weirdness!
[04:22] <YankDownUnder> Golfgeo, I had the same issue, and used "arandr" and "xrandr" to resolve the issues from a boot(ing) script.
[04:23] <Golfgeo> YankDownUnder: Did you find out if those numbers where originating from the underlying "video drivers", in other words the board layout of the GPU, or that they where assigned by X?
[04:23] <EpicCyndaquil> so, I've got a strange one... trying to install Ubuntu Server in an LVM via proxmox. I've tried 16.04 & 17.04 and they both fail the install during the kernel install. Tried the live CD of Ubuntu Desktop 16.04 for kicks, and that works flawlessly. Any idea what's causing the install to fail?
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> Golfgeo, X related. Just forced 'em to be different.
[04:24] <midhun> i have no sound on my laptop
[04:24] <midhun> i installed ubuntu 14.04
[04:24] <midhun> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361543
[04:25] <midhun> i have tried all i could
[04:25] <midhun> from google
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> EpicCyndaquil, I actually do quite a number of "server" installs in VM's (VirtualBox)...and the only time I've had issues is when the settings for the VM were incorrect...other than that, fairly flawless...
[04:25] <Golfgeo> YankDownUnder, then they must be configurable in some xorg.conf file. Well, I would say... Haven't worked with multi monitor setups in yeaaaars... So all my knowlidge is ancient by now... :)
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> midhun, I gave you a web page to read earlier - did you actually read through that?
[04:26] <midhun> yes yankdownunder
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> midhun, Open a terminal and type: pavucontrol
[04:26] <EpicCyndaquil> @YankDownUnder well I'm running the desktop live CD in the exact same VM I was trying to install server in, so I'm pretty confident it isn't a  vm config issue.
[04:26] <midhun> ok
[04:27] <midhun> i typed
[04:27] <midhun> it opened volume control
[04:27] <researcher123> YankDownUnder: I tried but it didn't work. Please check here https://imagebin.ca/v/3MqtSYoU14D1
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> EpicCyndaquil, Strange that.
[04:28] <YankDownUnder> researcher123, And you HAVE installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions into the VM?
[04:28] <researcher123> YankDownUnder: yes I did
[04:29] <YankDownUnder> researcher123, And it's safe to assume you've rebooted the VM yadda yadda yadda...?
[04:29] <researcher123> YankDownUnder: yes
[04:29] <DF3D2> researcher123, did you set it to NAT or bridge mode in the network adapter ?
[04:29] <DF3D2> i'd use bridge mode
[04:30] <DF3D2> so that your vm isnt double nat
[04:30] <researcher123> network
[04:30] <DF3D2> it will be an option in the vm network adapter
[04:30] <DF3D2> on the host side
[04:30] <YankDownUnder> Yeah - it's in "bridged" => I'd think about checking the virtual network adapters on the host machine...just to be sure...and also checking the state of the firewall on the host...again, just to be sure...
[04:31] <DF3D2> please give us an overview of your network
[04:31] <DF3D2> is it a simple /24 with a router?
[04:31] <researcher123> ok. let me write please
[04:32] <midhun> yankdownunder it opened volume control
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> midhun, Yes, it should have...and did you change any of the controls and test to see if you have sound?
[04:32] <orbi> to return to a prior conversation, albiet charged,  how long before Lennart "enhances" systemd to include PoSH
[04:33] <orbi> as an old solaris guy (2.5.1) - 1) i miss servers that sound let jet engines complete with keys, and 2) I MISS MY SysV
[04:34] <midhun> yes yankdownunder i tried
[04:34] <midhun> Yankdownunder but still there is no audio
[04:35] <DF3D2> midhun, pulseaudio ?
[04:35] <YankDownUnder> midhun, You've checked all the hardware, and checked all the settings, you've checked either a video or audio file, mucked with the controls to see if things might possibly be on "mute" - right?
[04:36] <DF3D2> check alsamixer
[04:36] <DF3D2> from command line
[04:36] <DF3D2> non muted stuff will show 00 at the bottom
[04:36] <DF3D2> muted is MM
[04:37] <midhun> E:[pulseaudio] pid.c :Daemon already running
[04:37] <DF3D2> the state of the sound on linux is pretty terrible i'm sad to say
[04:37] <orbi> i'll admit to ignorance on ubuntu - does it use upstart?
[04:37] <DF3D2> orbi, systemd now
[04:38] <DF3D2> but it used to be upstart
[04:38] <midhun> E:[pulseaudio] main.c pa_pid_file_create() failed
[04:38] <DF3D2> midhun, sudo pulseaudio -k && sudo pulse audio --start
[04:38] <DF3D2> if memory serves me
[04:38] <DF3D2> i had to stop using linux for anything sound related some time ago for my own sanity
[04:39] <orbi> https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0600/04/1492824905867.gif
[04:39] <orbi> Lennart is possibly the only person I dislike more than trump
[04:40] <DF3D2> lets not go that way
[04:40] <orbi> his position on the RHEL Advisory board is.. unfair,
[04:40] <orbi> trump is just a senile old man with a frank personality disorder
[04:41] <DF3D2> i agree on both counts but listen, this isn't wanted/needed in this channel
[04:41] <DF3D2> so can you take it elsewhere
[04:44] <researcher123> YankDownUnder: how do I provide network details about my vbox?
[04:44] <midhun> DF3D2 E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
[04:44] <midhun> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: Success
[04:44] <DF3D2> are you using sudo ?
[04:45] <midhun> yes
[04:45] <glachas> I am tring to install ubuntu-sdk but I am getiing error: ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev but it is not going to be installed. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[04:45] <DF3D2> ahh its pulseaudio -D to start
[04:45] <midhun> ok
[04:45] <DF3D2> glachas, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:46] <glachas> DF3D2: Again same problem
[04:47] <YankDownUnder> researcher123, Check the host system - the firewall and the "virtual network interfaces" - one way of doing so - where you would see any errors - is by opening a terminal and typing: sudo systemctl restart networking ==> that would show if there are any direct errors with the host networking...next would be to suss out the firewall - see if that's somehow blocking anything...
[04:47] <DF3D2> researcher123, i wanted to know how your network in general is configured
[04:47] <DF3D2> if you do a bridge network between the host/guest and set a static IP on your LAN it should "just work"
[04:48] <YankDownUnder> DF3D2, Yeah - he showed it was a bridged setup in VB...ergo, looking outside of VB for a possible answer to the issue...
[04:49] <DF3D2> YankDownUnder, ok he never answered me when i asked for a network diagram
[04:50] <DF3D2> it is unlikely a firewall is blocking inside > out http requests though
[04:50] <cyberpolice> i am on ubuntu 17.04 livecd and i cannot install programs?
[04:50] <DF3D2> especially if it isn't for the host OS
[04:51] <cyberpolice> when i try to do apt-cache search xchat, i get E: Unable to locate package xchat
[04:51] <cyberpolice> i have done sudo apt-get update
[04:51] <Golfgeo> YankDownUnder: Thanks for the help mate! :D
[04:52] <DF3D2> im wondering if xchat isn't in the repo's for 17.04 yet
[04:52] <DF3D2> isn't 17.04 very new ?
[04:52] <Golfgeo> gtg, see you all around! :)
[04:52] <DF3D2> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:53] <midhun> DF3D2 i did that and still cant play the audio
[04:53] <cyberpolice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597161/
[04:53] <researcher123> DF3D2: how do I provide netwrok details?
[04:53] <cyberpolice> well i wanted to install that one program gsmartcontrol while im on livecd to do some SMART test
[04:53] <cyberpolice> but if it cannot find xchat, it also cannot find gsmartcontrol. so what to do
[04:54] <cyberpolice> what kind of ubuntu livecd is this
[04:54] <DF3D2> researcher123, lol you just tell me what your network is
[04:54] <DF3D2> but can you possibly ping 8.8.8.8 on the guest?
[04:54] <researcher123> DF3D2: i am quite new
[04:54] <DF3D2> wondering if you just have a simple dns issue
[04:54] <PipeItToDevNull> cyberpolice, smartctl
[04:54] <glachas> I am not able to install ubuntu-sdk. Getting error  ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev but it is not going to be installed
[04:54] <glachas> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[04:54] <cyberpolice> yes im aware of smartctl but i want gsmartcontrol
[04:55] <PipeItToDevNull> cyberpolice, Then install it
[04:55] <DF3D2> @cyberpolice, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+source/xchat-gnome
[04:55] <researcher123> DF3D2: cant ping 8.8.8.8
[04:55] <DF3D2> seems that xchat doesn't exist on 17.04 yet unless i'm wrong
[04:55] <DF3D2> researcher123, what is your lan subnet ?
[04:55] <DF3D2> IE: 192.168.1.X
[04:56] <cyberpolice> PipeItToDevNull: like i said, i cannot on ubuntu 17.04 livecd. because when i do apt-cache search gsmartcontrol i get error: E: Package 'gsmartcontrol' has no installation candidate
[04:56] <DF3D2> @cyberpolice, do you need to use 17.04 ?
[04:56] <researcher123> DF3D2: 255.255.255.0
[04:56] <cyberpolice> PipeItToDevNull: and it also does it for xchat: E: Unable to locate package xchat
[04:56] <DF3D2> researcher123, that is a subnet mask not a subnet
[04:56] <DF3D2> cyberpolice, just use 16.04 for the time being
[04:57] <DF3D2> it has all the packages you need
[04:57] <cyberpolice> DF3D2: well im trying to do hdd recovery. i have main computer 14.04 installed to disk and it cannot see my usb to ide/pata adaptor properly because of old kernel 3.13... so i said ok i try newest kernel... that means 17.04
[04:57] <cyberpolice> and it shows up here
[04:57] <cyberpolice> but now i cannot install things i want
[04:57] <cyberpolice> so... should i make a new livecd?
[04:57] <DF3D2> i'd try 16.04
[04:57] <cyberpolice> ok sir
[04:57] <DF3D2> 17.04 doesnt have all the packages yet it seems because it is very new
[04:58] <cyberpolice> so 17.04 is incomplete?
[04:58] <DF3D2> researcher123, if you don't know basic networking concepts/terms then virtualization might not be for you.
[04:58] <cyberpolice> why is it available for download already
[04:58] <cyberpolice> :/
[04:59] <midhun> i did pulseaudio --kill and then pulseaudio --start still i can't hear any audio
[04:59] <researcher123> DF3D2: :-( I want to run a window software hence I have been using it. Rarely need internet
[04:59] <YankDownUnder> midhun, You're on 14.04 - has the sound ever worked at all on this installation of 14.04?
[05:00] <midhun> no
[05:00] <midhun> this is a new laptop.i got it preinstalled with ubuntu 16.04
[05:00] <DF3D2> researcher123, how is your VM getting an Ip address?
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> midhun, And have you tried using 16.04? Just asking...14.04 is a bit, um...old...
[05:00] <midhun> at that time audio was working
[05:00] <DF3D2> is it dynamically assigned by your dhcp server or is it a static(manually set by you) Ip address?
[05:01] <YankDownUnder> midhun, So sound worked in 16.04 but you're using 14.04...is that what I understand?
[05:01] <DF3D2> @midhun, you removed 16.04 and installed 14.04 ?
[05:01] <DF3D2> for the love of.... why
[05:01] <midhun> yes
[05:01] <DF3D2> please explain why
[05:01] <researcher123> DF3D2: its set as automatically detect settings
[05:02] <midhun> i wanted php5 .and it seems ubuntu 16.04 support only php7
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> So there exists the possibility that the audio drivers do NOT exist for 14.04...
[05:03] <DF3D2> researcher123, does your network have a DHCP server? how is your host OS getting an ip address ?
[05:03] <DF3D2> this is why i asked for you to explain your network
[05:03] <DF3D2> im not in to playing guess the network-config
[05:03] <YankDownUnder> researcher123, Something to consider - set the networking to static in the Windows VM you've created...yet another thing to chuck into the mix...
[05:04] <DF3D2> YankDownUnder, yep i mentioned that about 20 minutes ago :-(
[05:04] <DF3D2> but he never did answer my questions
[05:04] <YankDownUnder> DF3D2, Re-iteration...s'all good...(my cup of care is nearly empty)
[05:04] <DF3D2> researcher123, does the windows VM currently have an IP address at all ?
[05:05] <researcher123> yes
[05:05] <DF3D2> and what is that address ?
[05:05] <Anonym0us> do anyone know why youtube-dl was not permitted to make any new updates to apt after 2016 02 22?
[05:05] <researcher123> let me check please
[05:05] <obfuste> Hello trying to make live usb. Used dd command that worked in past. Tried to boot and got  "media test failure" "invald partition table"
[05:05] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, might have gotten legal threats from google
[05:06] <obfuste> should I have formatted the usb drive as one long partition first? It had fat32 by default with some free space
[05:06] <DF3D2> obfuste, what DD command are you running exactly ?
[05:07] <obfuste> the one here: https://antergos.com/wiki/install/create-a-working-live-usb/
[05:07] <obfuste> it worked before to make a Xubuntu live usb
[05:07] <DF3D2> create a new partition table on the USB drive
[05:07] <DF3D2> and try the command again
[05:07] <DF3D2> did you check the md5 of the downloaded iso ?
[05:08] <obfuste> yes iso is good
[05:08] <obfuste> checked them all when I got them
[05:08] <DF3D2> also doing dd if=/whatever of=/whatever bs=1M will speed up DD often
[05:08] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: its a tool to download videos, i can't really not imagine why it would be a direct thread from google except that it has "youtube" in its name.. i think it had something to do with ffmpeg but i am not sure
[05:08] <obfuste> 1o 1M is better than 4M?
[05:08] <DF3D2> oh i didnt see he had 4m in the command
[05:08] <DF3D2> i always just do 1M and havent seen a big different doing more
[05:09] <obfuste> should I reformat the drive and try again?
[05:09] <obfuste> could the free space in front be a problem?
[05:09] <DF3D2> use fdisk
[05:09] <obfuste> use it how?
[05:09] <DF3D2> and write a totally new partition table
[05:09] <obfuste> im a noob
[05:09] <DF3D2> what are you using to format the drive
[05:09] <obfuste> i can follow directions but understand little
[05:09] <obfuste> Gnome Disks
[05:09] <DF3D2> open a terminal
[05:09] <obfuste> well actually I didnt format this one at all as it came out of the box with fat32
[05:10] <obfuste> ok terminal open
[05:10] <obfuste> red 4 standing by
[05:10] <DF3D2> sudo fdisk -l
[05:10] <DF3D2> that lists partitions
[05:10] <DF3D2> what disk are you working on ?
[05:11] <obfuste> sdb1
[05:11] <DF3D2> so, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[05:11] <Ben64> are you doing dd to sdb1?
[05:11] <DF3D2> yeah make sure you are doing it to /dev/sdb
[05:11] <DF3D2> you want the DISK not a specific partition
[05:12] <DF3D2> which one did you do before
[05:12] <obfuste> it says "command:"
[05:12] <DF3D2> "o" creates a new empty dos partition table
[05:12] <obfuste> i didnt do antyhing before...the drive was formatted. I plugged it in and dd'd the iso to it
[05:12] <researcher123> DF3D2: windows not have any ip address
[05:12] <Ben64> unnecessary to do that, dd will overwrite it
[05:13] <DF3D2> Ben64, I know that but i've seen usb disks get buggered up somehow before
[05:13] <obfuste> ok confused now...what do I do?
[05:13] <bray90820> So the service is clearly running but systemctl still says failed
[05:13] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/sFvwEchJ
[05:13] <DF3D2> where this "seemed to help"
[05:13] <obfuste> goal is to write a live usb with dd as before
[05:13] <DF3D2> obfuste, yes but answer Ben64 question
[05:13] <DF3D2> did you do /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb
[05:13] <DF3D2> in the dd command
[05:13] <Ben64> yeah that's important
[05:13] <obfuste> honestly I dont know
[05:14] <DF3D2> do it again with /dev/sdb
[05:14] <obfuste> how do i pull up terminal history
[05:14] <DF3D2> "history"
[05:14] <DF3D2> history | grep dd
[05:14] <B105PH3RE> what package has ffprobe in ubuntu 12.04 sources?
[05:14] <tekdkdo> man history helps too
[05:14] <obfuste> i dd'd to sdb1 before...was that wrong?
[05:14] <cyberpopo> hello DF3D2 . i am on 16.04 livecd now. and i still cannot able to install gsmartcontrol here on this livecd: E: Package 'gsmartcontrol' has no installation candidate
[05:14] <obfuste> thats what came up in fdisk -l
[05:14] <DF3D2> yes you ran DD on a PARTITION not the DISK
[05:15] <DF3D2>  /dev/sdX = disk /dev/sdx# = partition
[05:15] <DF3D2> do you understand the difference ?
[05:15] <obfuste> oh so thats the problem right? just redo it with sdb?
[05:15] <obfuste> yes
[05:15] <DF3D2> yes thats the issue
[05:15] <DF3D2> good catch Ben64
[05:15] <cyberpopo> DF3D2: also, E: Unable to locate package xchat
[05:15] <obfuste> do I need to do anything to prepare before doing dd again or just rerun properly this time?
[05:15] <DF3D2> researcher123, so do you have a DHCP server on your network or not? (the thing that hands out ip addresses to any device that asks for one)
[05:16] <DF3D2> no just rerun it
[05:16] <obfuste> and should usb be mounted?
[05:16] <obfuste> or does it matter
[05:16] <DF3D2> Ben64, was correct it will copy the partition table it needs, because dd works on a block level
[05:16] <DF3D2> the usb should NOT be mounted
[05:16] <obfuste> ok thanks guys...will try again and report back
[05:18] <cyberpopo> on 16.04 livecd, why cant i install xchat thru sudo apt-get install xchat: E: Unable to locate package xchat .... i have done sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <obfuste> most guides say 4M...whats the best M to use?
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> cyberpopo, Um...because it's deprecated and Hexchat is the default...?
[05:18] <cyberpopo> oh
[05:18] <obfuste> thats MB/s writing speed right?
[05:18] <researcher123> DF3D2: https://imagebin.ca/v/3Mr9GvQF3UfT
[05:18] <cyberpopo> i do not know these things
[05:19] <DF3D2> obfuste, honestly just use anything between 1-4
[05:19] <DF3D2> and dont concern about it
[05:19] <DF3D2> you are making this too difficult lol
[05:19] <researcher123> :'(
[05:19] <cyberpopo> YankDownUnder: i tried to install hexchat: E: Unable to locate package hexchat
[05:19] <cyberpopo> what is happening...
[05:19] <obfuste> how am I making it difficult? The guide said 4M and you said 1M...just asking whats the difference
[05:19] <cyberpopo> why having so much trouble finding simple packages
[05:20] <obfuste> cant learn without asking
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> cyberpopo, You're on a "livecd" - a CD or a USB?
[05:20] <cyberpopo> im on a liveusb
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> cyberpopo, Right...and was the USB set up with "persistence"?
[05:21] <DF3D2> you likely need to add whatever to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:21] <DF3D2> is it multiverse still?
[05:21] <cyberpopo> i dont know. but i never had to do this on 14.04 livecd
[05:21] <YankDownUnder> DF3D2, Should be...
[05:21] <obfuste> also how can I make a live usb with persistence using DD...can't find a clear guide
[05:21] <DF3D2> cyberpopo, google how to add multiverse to apt
[05:21] <cyberpopo> to setup "persistance"
[05:21] <DF3D2> that is likely your answer
[05:21] <cyberpopo> ok thanks
[05:22] <DF3D2> obfuste, i dont remember exactly but i think that is an option once you have booted up
[05:22] <obfuste> thanks will look for it
[05:22] <obfuste> if I did it right and it works that is
[05:23] <cyberpopo> DF3D2: yes this was the solution. thank you i have now installed gsmartcontrol
[05:23] <cyberpopo> why is multiverse not selected by default
[05:23] <DF3D2> don't know tbh
[05:23] <YankDownUnder> cyberpopo, Not sure...strange that...
[05:23] <cyberpopo> is it because of stallman
[05:23] <DF3D2> i think its licensing issues
[05:23] <cyberpopo> i knew it
[05:23] <DF3D2> where they put the onus on the user to "activate it"
[05:23] <DF3D2> so that ubuntu isnt responsible for it
[05:24] <cyberpopo> i see
[05:24] <cyberpopo> i bet yo that was also the case with 17.04
[05:24] <cyberpopo> when i couldnt find anything there either
[05:24] <DF3D2> cyberpopo, very possible
[05:24] <DF3D2> i looked up "xchat"
[05:25] <DF3D2> which said it didnt exist for 17.04
[05:25] <DF3D2> but hexchat might
[05:25] <obfuste> so i found a guide to add peristence and it said to open gparted after the dd to partition the remaining space and I got this error "nvalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sdb.
[05:26] <obfuste> does that mean I borked the dd again somehow?
[05:26] <DF3D2> paste the exact dd command you ran
[05:26] <obfuste> i did it as above....
[05:27] <obfuste> let me try and boot from it and see if that was a gparted issue...when will deal with persistance later...brb
[05:27] <DF3D2> wait what does this even mean ?
[05:27] <DF3D2> d after the dd to partition the remaining space
[05:27] <DF3D2> what does that mean ?
[05:28] <cyberpopo> is it possible to see disk usage: free space/used space without mounting drive
[05:28] <DF3D2> you cant go screwing with that drive after you run DD on it
[05:28] <DF3D2> or it is likely not going to boot
[05:28] <DF3D2> cyberpopo, dont think so, how would the system read that?
[05:30] <daggett> ECHO %e %n %t %m %v
[05:31] <Haris> hello all
[05:32] <daggett> ECHO "%c"
[05:33] <daggett> /ECHO %c
[05:34] <DF3D2> daggett, ?
[05:34] <ftd> selam
[05:34] <ftd> hi
[05:37] <glachas> While running sudo apt-get -f install, I am getting error which I pastebinned here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597270/
[05:39] <DF3D2> @glachas, sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:42] <glachas> DF3D2: again same error
[05:42] <DF3D2> @glachas, sudo apt-get --purge remove libqt53drenderer5 && sudo apt autoremove -f && sudo apt-get -f install
[05:45] <glachas> DF3D2: Getting the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597301/
[05:45] <Haris> hello all
[05:45] <DF3D2> did you paste the entire command @glachas ?
[05:46] <Haris> the logger shell command on 14.04 is logging the word "logger: " before all that I tell it to log. can I get rid of this part ?
[05:46] <glachas> DF3D2: yes
[05:47] <DF3D2> glachas, try sudo apt-get -f install again
[05:47] <DF3D2> and paste the error if one
[05:47] <_root_> I have a problem with lxqt. It leaves about 10px from the left and 6px from the top and then draw the desktop and screen. those area ios black and doesn't show any activity in them even mouse right click. could anyone help me?
[05:48] <glachas> DF3D2: I have  pastebinned the here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597301/
[05:49] <wayneinforms> White Genocide Through Forced Immigration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80CNy3QaXlo
[05:49] <DF3D2> glachas, sudo apt-get --purge remove qt3d5-dev && sudo apt-get -f install
[05:50] <DF3D2> wayneinforms, get out
[05:50] <glachas> DF3D2: It worked :D
[05:51] <DF3D2> :-)
[05:52] <DF3D2> glachas, i'd follow it up with a sudo apt autoremove -f
[05:52] <DF3D2> just to clean up a bit more
[05:53] <Haris> guys, this output from logger doesn't happen like this on centos
[05:58] <glachas> While installing ubuntu-sdk I am getting error nhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24597341/
[05:59] <glachas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597341/
[05:59] <glachas> follow the 2nd link
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> good day
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> anyway to play audio when asked for hard drive encrypted password prompt
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> on bootup
[06:06] <Cedara> Morning!
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> Evening!
[06:07] <DF3D2> @glachas, it seems like your apt is all messed up
[06:07] <DF3D2> what version of ubuntu and how old is this install ?
[06:08] <heyitswither> hey
[06:08] <DF3D2> @glachas, sudo apt-mark showhold
[06:09] <dude> how to check the order of execution of script files once sytem boots ?
[06:10] <DF3D2> dude, runlevels i think... not sure on systemd it is "targets" and wants
[06:10] <dude> ok
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> dude: in your /etc/rc#.d directory has S01 S02 ... S78 should be the order based on filenames in there
[06:11] <DF3D2> B105PH3RE, even with the move to systemd ?
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> umm. not sure on that part
[06:12] <DF3D2> I know systemd has other stuff called "targets" and "wants"
[06:12] <DF3D2> that tell it to load certain services after others
[06:12] <DF3D2> IE: lots of stuff is after "networking"
[06:13] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04: "unknown error : >><class 'KeyError'><<("The cache has no package named 'steam')<< -- Oddly so, only today after first boot, I did run apt-get update/upgrade in terminal and it told me that I had to do the configure -a thing. We had a power cut yesterday, is that a side effect?
[06:13] <Cedara> Meaning, did it mess things up?
[06:13] <DF3D2> Cedara, have you ran an fsck ?
[06:13] <Cedara> no, not yet, how do it do that in terminal?
[06:14] <DF3D2>  sudo touch /forcefsck
[06:14] <DF3D2> and then reboot
[06:14] <Cedara> never heard of that command...
[06:14] <Cedara> okay, I can do that
[06:14] <DF3D2> just tells it to run fsck on next boot
[06:14] <DF3D2> thats all
[06:14] <B105PH3RE> dude: maybe this article will help https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233468/how-does-systemd-use-etc-init-d-scripts
[06:14] <dude> B105PH3RE , DF3D2 thanks
[06:15] <Cedara> and then I'll come back to tell results
[06:15] <B105PH3RE> talks about systemd and runlevels
[06:15] <glachas> DF3D2
[06:15] <glachas> ubuntu 16.04
[06:15] <dude> B105PH3RE ok i ll look into it
[06:16] <DF3D2> glachas, run the command i said awhile ago
[06:16] <DF3D2> sudo apt-mark showhold
[06:16] <glachas> DF3D2: I ran
[06:17] <DF3D2> what did it say ?
[06:18] <glachas> nothing showed
[06:18] <DF3D2> idk man you have serious apt issues
[06:18] <DF3D2> i dont want to keep having you remove packages
[06:18] <glachas> what should I do now? :(
[06:18] <DF3D2> you could try one more removal
[06:19] <DF3D2> actually try this
[06:19] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev
[06:19] <DF3D2> let me know if it gives an error
[06:20] <glachas> I tried to install it from ubuntu software center but it was not getting downloaded. It prompt some error
[06:21] <edenist_> hi guys
[06:21] <DF3D2> glachas, use command line
[06:22] <glachas> DF3D2: getting following error whille running on command line http://paste.ubuntu.com/24597388/
[06:22] <DF3D2> yeah man
[06:22] <DF3D2> you have seemingly endless dependency issues
[06:22] <DF3D2> how old is this ubuntu install?
[06:22] <glachas> :(
[06:22] <DF3D2> i'd likely recommend a new install at this junction
[06:22] <glachas> 2 days
[06:22] <DF3D2> yeah man
[06:23] <DF3D2> just start over
[06:23] <DF3D2> not sure how you get in to this mess but it might be more work to get out of it
[06:23] <glachas> no , actually I don't know
[06:24] <DF3D2> @glachas,
[06:24] <DF3D2> try this
[06:24] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-broken
[06:24] <glachas> It means I have to reinstall ubuntu 16.04
[06:24] <DF3D2> try that command
[06:24] <DF3D2> if the error is 1-2 lines dont worry about pastebin it
[06:24] <DF3D2> just paste it here
[06:24] <glachas> no error
[06:25] <Cedara> Still have the error >><class 'Key Error'><<("The cache has no package name 'steam')<< -- yes, I did run the forcefsck command, also, I can still start steam
[06:25] <DF3D2> ok now try sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[06:25] <glachas> ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <glachas> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:25] <glachas> getting the error
[06:26] <DF3D2> idk man
[06:26] <glachas> idk?
[06:26] <DF3D2> i dont know
[06:27] <glachas> ok :(
[06:27] <DF3D2> one more try
[06:27] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get install qtmultimedia5-dev && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[06:28] <glachas> qtmultimedia5-dev : Depends: libqt5multimediawidgets5 (= 5.5.1-4ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[06:28] <glachas> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:28] <glachas> not happening
[06:28] <DF3D2> yeah,  you have a totally screwed up apt
[06:29] <DF3D2> ok
[06:29] <DF3D2> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[06:30] <glachas> did nothing showed up
[06:30] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:30] <DF3D2> ^ did it remove any packages ?
[06:30] <glachas> which one
[06:30] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:31] <DF3D2> does it say its removing anything
[06:31] <glachas> next command I didn try
[06:31] <glachas> No
[06:31] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-sdk
[06:32] <DF3D2> @glachas, did you ever manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:33] <Cedara> just ran update/upgrade again, it wants to install steam stuff
[06:33] <glachas> https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6VroBlQmSO
[06:33] <glachas> getting the error
[06:34] <Cedara> a steam:i386 package
[06:34] <glachas> No, I dnever edited
[06:34] <Cedara> I am guessing that that's what's missing
[06:34] <Cedara> *waits for upgrade to run*
[06:34] <DF3D2> glachas, reinstall bro
[06:35] <DF3D2> i think your stuff is just too screwed up at this point
[06:35] <DF3D2> what error if you do sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[06:36] <DF3D2> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:37] <Cedara> you're still talking to glachas?
[06:37] <DF3D2> yeah but i think his apt is fubar
[06:37] <Cedara> ok
[06:37] <Cedara> I did run update and upgrade and it reinstalled stuff
[06:38] <Cedara> and the error just disappeared
[06:38] <Cedara> hoorah
[06:38] <DF3D2> how is steam on linux now a days ?
[06:38] <Cedara> good
[06:38] <Cedara> I love playing Cities Skylines
[06:38] <Cedara> that's basically why I have steam
[06:38] <DF3D2> that's a good game
[06:38] <DF3D2> i use windows cause i do a ton of gaming and devs are lazy to bring a lot of stuff to linux
[06:39] <Cedara> there's a mass transit dlc coming out which everyone is hyped for
[06:39] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: ReactOS
[06:39] <Cedara> coming out today, which is why I was bummered about the error
[06:39] <ikonia> DF3D2: nothing wrong with using windows if it does the job better for you than linux
[06:39] <Cedara> anyway, thanks, never would have thought of the fsck
[06:39] <ikonia> I see no benifit of porting something to make something harder for yourself
[06:39] <DF3D2> ikonia, yeah I use windows for work as well.
[06:40] <DF3D2> but I do run linux in numerous vm's on my server
[06:40] <DF3D2> i like both/hate both for numerous reasons heh
[06:40] <ikonia> DF3D2: what benifit would you gain from running it on the desktop and porting running games onto it for a probably less positive experience than on the native windows platform ?
[06:41] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: ReactOS also Destroy Windows Spying (can never be don lel but you can try) > google/duckduckgo
[06:41] <DF3D2> you asking me personally or the devs of the games ?
[06:41] <ikonia> DF3D2: you
[06:41] <ikonia> Anonym0us: ....please with the "windows spying"
[06:41] <DF3D2> ikonia, if linux was 1:1 with windows on gaming i'd run linux
[06:41] <ikonia> DF3D2: but it's not
[06:41] <DF3D2> yep
[06:41] <DF3D2> likely never will be sadly
[06:41] <ikonia> far from it
[06:41] <DF3D2> its not a big target audience
[06:41] <DF3D2> so the devs have no real desire
[06:41] <Anonym0us> ikonia sorry i don't read dots
[06:42] <Anonym0us> speak*
[06:42] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, your isp already logs everything you do so your OS is irrelevant really
[06:42] <ikonia> Anonym0us: no problem then I'll try to be clear. Please don't spread false information
[06:43] <ANAND> can any one help me to install canon lbp3108b printer to my computer
[06:43] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: VPN, ikonia: read W10 ToS/Politics/UserAgreement then you will see..
[06:43] <ducasse> Anonym0us: try to stay on topic
[06:43] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, its cute that you think a vpn cant be defeated but none of this is really relevant here
[06:43] <ikonia> Anonym0us: I'm aware of what you are talking about, but lets be real, it's not spying, so please don't offer it to people as information
[06:44] <Cedara> have a good day, guys
[06:44] <ANAND> friends please help me to install canon lbp3108b
[06:45] <Anonym0us> that you give M$ permission to access all your files/download them, and also decrypt them if needed, if they contain anything against the law or violates copyrights (to m$ many music corps) then they are allowed to sue you.. please rip
[06:45] <ikonia> Anonym0us: it's called microsoft, please use the correct names
[06:45] <ikonia> Anonym0us: agreeing to act by their local law enforcement is not spying, so again, please don't give false information
[06:45] <Anonym0us> good that you understand what i am saying ikonia
[06:47] <Anonym0us> spying being: accessing your local stored files, installing updates with malware, keylogging, collecting information, have remote access to your device, saving your wifi ap with password, and so on..
[06:47] <ANAND> anybody has the knowledge to install canon lbp3108b printer on an ubuntu desktop
[06:47] <ANAND> ?
[06:47] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, why are you spouting this here instead of #windows ?
[06:48] <Anonym0us> ANAND have you tried searching online?
[06:48] <ANAND> ya but it not works
[06:48] <ducasse> !behelpful | Anonym0us
[06:48] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: because why would i, it does not help s*** they do not give a f***
[06:48] <DF3D2> can you possibly just go away ?
[06:48] <DF3D2> you aren't helping anyone here
[06:49] <capitive> hii
[06:49] <ANAND> so this chat site cant help me?
[06:49] <ducasse> ANAND: have you looked at the canon site for a driver?
[06:49] <Anonym0us> i just really can't people who are ok with it. i understand you need it for your purposes but please grow some care man.. its your files not theirs
[06:50] <ANAND> i have installed cups driver but while adding the printer it shows foomatic
[06:50] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, I never said I didn't care, I am a windows/linux sys admin for work and I run the networks of over 50 different companies mostly windows based
[06:50] <DF3D2> so please don't try to preach to me like i'm not familiar
[06:50] <ANAND> and just shows printer is idle
[06:52] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: wew, cool showing off, i wont.. anyway you seam pretty careless about it, not only what you just said before but also that you deny that they are spying, wew im in shock to see your opinions here..
[06:52] <cyberpopo> should i make backup of dying ide/pata hard drive with rsync or dd
[06:52] <ducasse> !pm | ANAND
[06:52] <hateball> ANAND: Googling brings up this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[06:53] <hateball> ANAND: And that's as much as I can help you with, I dont know anything about Canon printers
[06:53] <DF3D2> Anonym0us, it isn't showing off when it is directly relevant to the discussion at hand, and secondly I never once said they weren't "spying" but again this is not the right place for this nor do I need any information you may have to provide, I have my own sources and you are not one of them. please go away.
[06:53] <ducasse> just writing that :)
[06:53] <carbon2i> James, the constant cry of the Jew to anyone that doesn't worship their nepotism and forced domination/supremacy of everything, is that they are mentally ill. It's never the fault of the Jew for their behavior, it's always you're mentally ill.﻿
[06:54] <ouroumov> !ops
[06:54] <Anonym0us> DF3D2: please do not tell me to go away! this is a open channel, if you do not like it, shut up or leave
[06:54] <DF3D2> you are off topic and have been for over 20 minutes
[06:54] <DF3D2> and you are derailing the entire channel
[06:54] <DF3D2> so yes, please leave thank you.
[06:54] <Anonym0us> i wont
[06:54] <DF3D2> well im guessing you are about to be removed
[06:54] <DF3D2> so all is well
[06:55] <Anonym0us> glad you think that all is well, we should all have that thought
[06:55] <ducasse> DF3D2: don't feed the trolls
[06:55] <DF3D2> ducasse, he should have been removed by now
[06:55] <Anonym0us> ducasse: don't call me a troll
[06:55] <DF3D2> ducasse, you are right though, i've muted him
[06:55] <Anonym0us> i don't troll in this channel, thanks
[06:56] <Flannel> Anonym0us: This is a public channel, but it is for Ubuntu technical support only.  Please take offtopic things (like chat, etc) elsewhere.  Thanks.
[06:56] <carbon2i> James, is it strange to suggest perhaps someone with a 180 IQ was correct? Jewish or not, he was right about the Holocaust being a great lie. Mentally ill? Doubt that, he doesn't seem so in interviews. Bitter, perhaps and certainly had a strong, expressive character.﻿
[06:56] <Anonym0us> Copy
[06:57] <elias_> hi
[06:57] <elias_> oi
[07:15] <scriptkiddies> anons
[07:18] <canonlbp3108b> does anyone help me through remote connection
[07:18] <canonlbp3108b> to install canon lbp3108b
[07:19] <ducasse> canonlbp3108b: i really wouldn't give a stranger on the internet a shell on my machine
[07:19] <ducasse> canonlbp3108b: and weren't you given a link a moment ago?
[07:19] <canonlbp3108b> it not works
[07:19] <canonlbp3108b> can u help me by accessing my system?
[07:20] <ducasse> i just told you that you should not do that
[07:20] <justxux> Maybe teamviewer
[07:20] <canonlbp3108b> ya
[07:21] <ducasse> canonlbp3108b: and how doesn't it work
[07:21] <justxux> Yeah be more specific
[07:21] <canonlbp3108b> i m not aware how to install a cups printer
[07:21] <canonlbp3108b> thats y
[07:21] <canonlbp3108b> i m new to ubuntu
[07:22] <canonlbp3108b> just changed OS due to wannacry at5tack
[07:22] <N3LRX> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-LBP3108B
[07:24] <justxux> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/printing-setup.html
[07:25] <canonlbp3108b> tried all above given things but system shows processing message only
[07:26] <canonlbp3108b> can anyone help me through team viewer
[07:26] <Krauzi> hi, im trying to get my headless ubuntu server working but im out of luck. i tried serveral grub settings but none of them make the system boot without a monitor connected. even a monitor cable connected makes it boot.
[07:26] <chocolaterobot> where can i find the location of vivaldi browser?
[07:27] <canonlbp3108b> u people  are expert on it right?
[07:27] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: if you were just the victom of an attack you should know better than giving a random stranger remote access
[07:27] <ducasse> canonlbp3108b: ^^
[07:27] <canonlbp3108b> ഗൂ ൈോേ ഗല ൈഗല്ദൈേ
[07:28] <ducasse> sorry chocolaterobot :)
[07:28] <chocolaterobot> ducasse: i was scared for a second. :)
[07:28] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: you mean the on-disk files?
[07:28] <chocolaterobot> ducasse: yes
[07:28] <chocolaterobot> i want to add a user.css file
[07:29] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: dpkg -L packagename
[07:29] <canonlbp3108b> what ever it is i need to install my printer
[07:29] <canonlbp3108b> unless its not usable
[07:29] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: but a user.css probably goes in your home somewhere, look under ~/.config
[07:29] <justxux> canonlbp3108b, I texted you durectly
[07:29] <chocolaterobot> ducasse: thank you. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c46a2e78ef30c4c57d1c77084235c398
[07:30] <ducasse> canonlbp3108b: this link tells you exactly what to do - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[07:31] <chocolaterobot> ducasse: looks like it's in /opt/...
[07:32] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: as i said, though, a user stylesheet would most likely be under your homedir
[07:33] <chocolaterobot> ducasse: so i shouldn't add this css with a folder full of other cSS files.... in /opt/?
[07:34] <ducasse> chocolaterobot: as it's user-specific, i would expect it to be under home somewhere, but you really need to ask the vivaldi people.
[07:37] <beanbagula> If I find some packages listed by dpkg -l | grep string, how can I remove them? apt suggests they are not actually installed.
[07:37] <ducasse> beanbagula: does the line begin with 'rc'?
[07:37] <beanbagula> yes
[07:38] <ducasse> beanbagula: that means 'residual config'. remove with 'apt purge package'.
[07:38] <beanbagula> ducasse: Ah, thanks very much
[07:43] <CyberTex> Hello people, I have a persistent problem with PEAP authentication . Yesterday I got it to work using a workaround described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1578589 . Now not even this work around is working. It has become so time consuming. I spent an average of 4 hours a day search   for a fix this week. I don't care what's the cost , I need to fix this. My team leader is frustrated with the situ
[07:43] <CyberTex> Help me finish this once and for all?
[07:46] <ducasse> CyberTex: you don't really have a lot of good options. first of all you should track down what causes this problem and if/in what version it is fixed.
[07:48] <CyberTex> hey ducasse :) . I don't use this laptop outside of the company . Wifi is already broken, what's there to lose :(. So, let's downgrade wpa_supplicant and see what happens, no?
[07:49] <ducasse> CyberTex: you can certainly try, at your own risk. do you know of a version this works in?
[07:51] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, Read this bit yet? ==> https://askubuntu.com/questions/765021/ubuntu-16-04-doesnt-support-peap-authentication-without-ca-certificate
[07:53] <nisseni> I would like to create an alias - when I run /usr/bin/convert I would like to execute /usr/local/bin/convert - how can I achieve that?
[07:54] <YankDownUnder> nisseni, If you have "convert" in both places, but prefer to run the one in /usr/local/bin , you can merely rename the /usr/bin/convert to something else...
[07:54] <ducasse> nisseni: is /usr/bin/convert an existing file?
[07:55] <CyberTex> YankDownUnder: Error: Connection activation failed.
[07:55] <YankDownUnder> "convert" is part of the ImageMagick suite of utils
[07:55] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: it will be overwritten on updates if it's from a package
[07:55] <george> asda
[07:56] <ducasse> nisseni: what you're looking for is dpkg-divert
[07:56] <YankDownUnder> ducasse, Yes...true that...unless one removes "ImageMagick" and all it's bits and bobs...and relies only on what one installed to sit in /usr/local/bin...but it ain't me...just offering a quickie bandage
[07:57] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, I'm not a fan nor user of PEAP - just ran across that and chucked it in the air, mate...
[07:58] <CyberTex> ducasse:  I understand that , I would like to take the risk :). I believe that v2.1 works fine according to a colleague workin on ubuntu 14 or somethin. Also a lot of users report that downgrading to that version fixed the problem for the in  ask Ubuntu
[07:59] <CyberTex> YankDownUnder:  It's always worth a try :P
[07:59] <Ben64> CyberTex: no it isn't
[07:59] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, True that...true...(I like to finish puzzles...ergo, if it was ME, I'd find an answer...) :)
[08:00] <CyberTex> Ben64:  I'm talking about fixes that such as the one proposed by YankDownUnder
[08:00] <CyberTex> that risk nothin
[08:00] <CyberTex> *
[08:02] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, When you say "downgrade" - is that along the lines of removing the network manager, compiling from source? Just curious
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, I just thought of something, too...if you install "strongSwan" for "NetworkManager" - along with the PEAP plug-ins for "strongSwan" - wouldn't that achieve the same goal?
[08:06] <strk> I enabled the system monitor and the Network graph is all filled by what looks like being the "local" color. How can I debug what's the "local" traffic ?
[08:07] <CyberTex> Ben64: It's so painful to see that only modren users of Ubuntu 16.04 and 17.04 suffering from this issue in our department but Mac users , android users , Windows users, old versions of ubuntu workin . But yours doesn't. I need wifi connection in our daily meetings. I just sit there like a potato :P for an hour then apologize that I need to leave because I have no connection. It's a good excuse to leave them , but not so productive.
[08:08] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, (read what I wrote so I don't have to repeat)
[08:08] <wawa> ㅇ
[08:09] <CyberTex> YankDownUnder:  never heard of strongswan How do I install it ? Why would one think this would solve the issue?
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> CyberTex, Look in "Synaptic" - or, you can search/install in the terminal: sudo apt-get -y install strongswan-nm
[08:11] <nisseni> ducasse: yeah, it's a part of Imagick
[08:12] <nisseni> So I can't simply create an alias of some sort?
[08:13] <CyberTex> ducasse: you can hate me for it lol . I tried to downgrade but I get "wpasupplicant : Depends: initscripts (>= 2.88dsf-13.3)" Should I proceed to install it?
[08:13] <ducasse> CyberTex: NO!
[08:13] <Ben64> CyberTex: theres a reason it's not supported here
[08:13] <CyberTex> sheesh ok
[08:13] <YankDownUnder> nisseni, If the /usr/local/bin/convert is NOT part of ImageMagick - and it's part of another package, can you not merely rename THAT binary to something...or please describe a bit more fully what exactly you're wanting to do...?
[08:13] <ducasse> nisseni: as i said, dpkg-divert is the correct way to do this. if you just replace the file with a symlink or something it will be overwritten on next update.
[08:13] <beanbagula> Is there an easy way to install up to date nvidia drivers ?
[08:14] <Ben64> beanbagula: install the ones in the ubuntu repository unless you absolutely need a newer version
[08:14] <beanbagula> Ben64: I only care that they are compatible with cuda
[08:14] <beanbagula> Ben64: Are the ones in the repo ?
[08:14] <Ben64> they all are
[08:14] <beanbagula> Ben64: What are they called ?
[08:15] <ducasse> nisseni: or just make sure /usr/local/bin comes before /usr/bin in the PATH (unless convert is called with full path)
[08:15] <Ben64> beanbagula: nvidia-<version> usually
[08:15] <nisseni> YankDownUnder: on the production server the convert file lies in /usr/bin but on my local development it lies under /usr/local/bin - so I would simply like to use the same link in the code
[08:16] <nisseni> ducasse: it is called with full path
[08:16] <Ben64> nisseni: so don't call it with full path
[08:16] <nisseni> Ben64: how else do I call it in the code?
[08:16] <Ben64> "convert"
[08:16] <ducasse> nisseni: so there is no /usr/bin/convert on your dev machine?
[08:16] <beanbagula> Ben64: Thanks.
[08:17] <nisseni> ducasse: no, vice versa
[08:17] <Ben64> nisseni: or something like if [ -e /usr/bin/convert ]
[08:18] <ducasse> nisseni: or just use a symlink. this is why i asked if it was an existing file - you said yes.
[08:19] <nisseni> Yeah, symlink is what I was looking for, thanks
[08:19] <Ben64> or just make the code better instead of putting a weird symlink in a system directory
[08:20] <CyberTex> Ben64:  I know, brother . What else can I do ? I need wifi ,  all the workarounds are becoming so time consuming. Ubuntu 17's  wpa_supplicant is behind for two versions. Not taking a risk= changing the OS which is somethin that I don't want to do. I really hate to waste your precious time helping the community as much as I hate to just give up and do stupid things
[08:20] <Ben64> CyberTex: what is the workaround and what did you change that made it stop working
[08:21] <CyberTex> Ben64:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1578589
[08:22] <CyberTex> Ben64: worked once. Then it just stopped working
[08:23] <CyberTex> Ben64:  Killed all background wpa_supplicants  using "ps ax | grep "wpa_supplicant -B"" and entering the id manually to kill it. Didn't change nothin
[08:23] <Ben64> if it worked, then wpa_supplicant isn't the problem
[08:24] <CyberTex> Ben64:  It's the combination of network manager and wpa_supplicants that's causing the issue. It's sounds stupid because it is but what else there is
[08:25] <hamdjan> hi
[08:25] <hamdjan> can i easily move from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[08:26] <hateball> hamdjan: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <hamdjan> yeah thats easy, thanks!
[08:27] <hateball> I know there's problems installing kubuntu-desktop over Ubuntu due to some telepathy stuff, I imagine one would get the same errors going the other way
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> hateball, Yeppers...the "telepathy" and also the "accounts" plugins - they kinda "scream and yell" a bit...
[08:32] <DevAntoine> I tried to install gimp but it failed and now apt-get is broken, I don't know what to do :/ Here's the apt upgrade and the dpkg --configure: https://pastebin.com/4PDDDg8z
[08:32] <DevAntoine> What can I do?
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, How did you try to install GIMP?
[08:35] <Ben64> CyberTex: no, if wpa_supplicant worked, then it works
[08:36] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: using Ubuntu's software installer
[08:36] <Ben64> DevAntoine: what version of ubuntu
[08:36] <ubuntu-mate> I installed gimp 5 min ago from ubuntu sofware center and all is good
[08:36] <DevAntoine> Ben64: 17.04
[08:36] <ducasse> DevAntoine: gimp from a ppa or the repos?
[08:37] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Right...so, while you're in the terminal - try this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo apt -y autoremove && sudo apt -y autoclean
[08:37] <DevAntoine> ducasse: I don't know, from the repo I guess
[08:38] <Prototip> DevAntoine: do a "df -h" - perhaps your /boot partition is full.. happened to me once
[08:40] <DevAntoine> Prototip: nah, it's not full
[08:40] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: it freeze at the upgrade
[08:40] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, FREEZES - or is it doing something...big difference...patience if it's "doing something"
[08:41] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: well, it happened yesterday, the upgrade ran all night long
[08:41] <DevAntoine> I'm pretty sure it froze ;)
[08:41] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Right. Well, then do CTRL-C to kill it.
[08:41] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: yeah, I know, I've already done it
[08:42] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Right...so, since it's "dead in the water" -> try this: sudo apt -y autoremove
[08:42] <ducasse> DevAntoine: what does 'sudo apt install -f' say?
[08:44] <DevAntoine> the chained commands freezes on this: https://pastebin.com/aDYkxhpS
[08:44] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Stop the "chained command" - just do: sudo apt -y autoremove
[08:44] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: already done
[08:46] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Great - so it's done, yes? Then do: sudo apt -y autoclean [08:46] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: done too
[08:46] <DevAntoine> but I still can't run apt-get upgrade
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, Right oh. NOW you can type: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:47] <DevAntoine> YankDownUnder: it seems it's freezing too
[08:48] <ducasse> DevAntoine: it's attempting to figure out deps, give it a few minutes at least
[08:50] <francis_> Will using Ubuntu Live (not installed) on flash drive fry the drive?
[08:50] <Toxtlo> Hi, I'm trying a manual ubuntu 17.04 installation and formating a ext4 crypto root partition, but it fails, telling me it cant set it up. Do I have to fall back to ext3 or is there a trick to set it up with ext4 >.<
[08:50] <pandaadb> Hi, i was wondering if someone could recommend a usb to hdmi adapter that is working well with ubuntu 16.04.2? I just tried out the Dell AD100 and got it to work, but had massive tearing on my hdmi connected one and the second one (via the adapter) was super slow to refresh
[08:54] <DevAntoine> ducasse: nop, still frozen
[08:55] <ducasse> DevAntoine: does 'dpkg -V' say anything?
[08:56] <ducasse> DevAntoine: or 'dpkg -C'?
[08:57] <ducasse> DevAntoine: the first will spit out a lot of filenames, if it works
[09:00] <DevAntoine> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/NkcrAG9M
[09:01] <ducasse> DevAntoine: does 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' complete successfully?
[09:03] <DevAntoine> ducasse: nah, it freezes too
[09:05] <ducasse> DevAntoine: not good news.
[09:05] <ducasse> DevAntoine: let's try something, give me a sec.
[09:06] <ducasse> DevAntoine: 'sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.10.0-21-generic linux-image-4.10.0-21-generic linux-image-extra-4.10.0-21-generic'
[09:16] <DevAntoine> ducasse: frozen
[09:17] <ducasse> DevAntoine: ok, so one of those packages (i suspect the last one) is stuck...
[09:18] <DevAntoine> ducasse: can I try that? https://askubuntu.com/a/182872
[09:19] <YankDownUnder> DevAntoine, You *have* rebooted after doing some of this, right? Just checking, mate...
[09:20] <hamdjan> does ubuntu 17.04 still use sys v scripts?
[09:20] <hamdjan> in 16.04 i see there are still sys v scripts run my systemd wrapper unit service files
[09:20] <ducasse> DevAntoine: at your own risk. i have no other suggestions atm.
[09:21] <ducasse> hamdjan: some packages still do, yes.
[09:22] <hamdjan> good to know thanks!
[09:23] <DevAntoine> ducasse: erf :/
[09:23] <DevAntoine> thanks anyway ducasse!
[09:23] <francis_> would Ubuntu Live CD (Try Ubuntu w/o installing) burnout my flash drive faster?
[09:25] <ducasse> francis_: faster than what?
[09:26] <YankDownUnder> ducasse, (a magnetised flathead screwdriver?)
[09:27] <francis_> ducasse: faster than it normally would?
[09:31] <ducasse> francis_: the important thing is the number of writes, in try ubuntu mode you don't normally write to it.
[09:32] <hamdjan> ducasse, you said yesterday "hamdjan: with a non-lts release you will need to upgrade every 6-9 months, better to avoid that when still learning."
[09:33] <ducasse> hamdjan: yes
[09:34] <hamdjan> ducasse, i know ubuntu's environment already more or less so i'd be okay with upgrades, but would you say going for lts has is handsdown still better just because upgrades are painless?
[09:35] <ducasse> hamdjan: 'better' is subjective.
[09:36] <hamdjan> first issue that comes to my mind with 17.04 is that i dont find bareos 16.2 for it and im not sure if i can simply use the official bareos 16.04 package for it :)
[09:36] <hamdjan> enterprise software mostly releases it "tested for " the lts versions of ubuntu and not the short releases
[09:36] <hamdjan> but if the package would not work for 17.04 i don't know
[09:37] <ducasse> hamdjan: as i told you yesterday, if you need to ask you should probably use the lts.
[09:37] <hamdjan> hm right, installing it now from the usb key then :)
[09:42] <maffh> Does somebody has experience with the tools /usr/bin/time? For some reasons, every time I use this tool to measure a process, it always results in that the Average resident set size (kbytes) is equal to zero. I have tried several processes, but I  dont understand how this always is equal to zero.
[09:44] <maffh> nevermind, I found out why
[09:47] <totally_new_to_t> hello guys can I also ask questions regarding Lubuntu here?
[09:47] <Ben64> yep
[09:47] <totally_new_to_t> great thanks
[09:47] <totally_new_to_t> how can I add new items to my menu panel?
[09:48] <totally_new_to_t> or better yet what is the relation of alacarte to the menupanel?
[09:50] <totally_new_to_t> I don't see the relation.. I've added some items.. nothing happens, but now an hour later or so, the items appear... what may have caused this behavior and how do I deploy changes in the menu immediately?
[09:50] <fishcooker> should we do "# service cron reload/restart" after editing the executable file of the cronjob?
[09:50] <Prototip> totally_new_to_t: lubuntu is "LXDE", right... alacarte is used mainly on gnome based desktops
[09:51] <totally_new_to_t> ah, I had no clue
[09:53] <ducasse> alacarte just edits .desktop files, any desktop that follows xdg will use those
[09:54] <Prototip> totally_new_to_t: https://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[09:56] <Younder> Ok after todays update chromium-browser fails to run. Any idea why?
[09:57] <totally_new_to_t> sorry had to go to the toilet
[09:57] <totally_new_to_t> then how does one add items to the menu easily
[09:58] <totally_new_to_t> coding a .desktop thingie will surely fail if I do it
[10:00] <totally_new_to_t> the other day I had to backup-restore after making a typo in ~/.bashrc
[10:02] <aarti> hi
[10:03] <aarti> hi
[10:24] <samanweb> is there any alternative for notepad++ on Linux
[10:25] <Mechdave> Gedit is good if you are running Ubuntu
[10:25] <Prototip> samanweb: I love geany
[10:25] <hateball> samanweb: Kate is nice, but requires kde-libs (if you arent already using plasma stuff)
[10:26] <Mechdave> Depends if you are a beginner or experienced
[10:30] <jubo2> y0
[10:30] <jubo2> pluse is back up but no sound will play
[10:36] <jubo2> I copy my homedir to the healthy Kubuntu17.04
[10:37] <jubo2> Better boot over there so that this disk is the passive one being copied from
[10:37] <jubo2> otherwise stupid stuff could occour
[10:38] <Younder> You mean unmount?
[10:40] <CoderEurope> Does XFCE have an app to tell you when your microphone is being used  at all ?
[10:41] <YankDownUnder> CoderEurope, Doesn't that function show up in the XFce mixer app?
[10:44] <CoderEurope> YankDownUnder, I meant in the task bar - or a notification window (?)
[10:49] <YankDownUnder> CoderEurope, Without switching to XFce right now, if I'm not mistaken, the mixer is in the system tray...(or can be easily added)
[10:50] <CoderEurope> he doesn't know.
[10:52] <YankDownUnder> CoderEurope, http://docs.xfce.org/
[10:54] <YankDownUnder> CoderEurope, I use XFce, WindowMaker, Gnome3 and olvwm...can't readily just leave my session right now...kinda got things brewing, as it were...that being said, I have volume/mixer in the system tray and also in a dock...
[10:55] <Guest70891> what does "encrypt private data" in ubuntu installation mean?
[10:55] <Guest70891> i already selected "encrypt full disk", would that not imply /home???
[10:56] <Guest70891> ok i got it
[10:56] <Guest70891> it encrpyts it on top of that
[10:56] <Guest70891> so once you logged in the dir is still encypted
[10:57] <Guest70891> wiped already my OS that i used for 3-4 years in favor of ubuntu >_<
[10:57] <YankDownUnder> ...running from the NSA and CIA...yep...
[11:02] <Fleuv> Hi! The last couple of days I've been trying to install ubuntu alongside windows. Unfortunately there is one important thing where I can find tons about on the internet but nothing really fits my situation or just doesnt work with my setup. When booting the liveUSB in UEFI mode, ubuntu is unable to find other devices. My SSD does show up when booting the liveusb with sata operations in ahci mode but than my windows doesnt work with ahc
[11:11] <MiguelFuller> hi
[11:13] <CoderEurope> MiguelFuller, yes dawg here.
[11:24] <jcderhb> hi
[11:24] <jcderhb> i installed ubuntu and luks asked me for passphrase on boot
[11:25] <jcderhb> i entered the passphrase but luks said wrong passphrase
[11:25] <jcderhb> what could be the cause?
[11:26] <jcderhb> maybe luks doesnt support " in passphrase?
[11:26] <frostschutz> jcderhb, maybe wrong keyboard layout?
[11:27] <jcderhb> maybe
[11:28] <jcderhb> can i change luks passphrase afterwards easily ?n
[11:28] <frostschutz> luks supports " (and all characters really) just fine. it may not be the case for a frontend (but that would be a bug). keyboard layout issues are common though, for that reason I add my passphrase twice, once in US layout and once in my own, so either one will be accepted
[11:28] <SwedeMike> jcderhb: I'm not saying that is the cause, but I would advice against using similar special characters in luks passphrase, you run into higher risks of triggering bugs
[11:28] <SwedeMike> jcderhb: you can boot inte live system and add a passphrase from CLI.
[11:28] <SwedeMike> into
[11:29] <CoderEurope> jcderhb, try copy & paste :)
[11:29] <SwedeMike> jcderhb: this would most likely solve your problem, you would use the first passphrase to add a second one, then you can use this second one normally
[11:29] <frostschutz> jcderhb, see if you can make it work on a livecd, then cryptsetup luksAddKey ... https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/174657/30851
[11:29] <jcderhb> aight thanks!
[11:41] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: hi
[11:41] <bob_> I'm having an issue installing ubuntu along side windows 10. During the installation, it gives me the option to install along side windows or other options.
[11:42] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: I just aoke up it's 5:41
[11:42] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: do you know about networking in xubuntu
[11:42] <bob_> but I dont have the option to continue when selecting either option
[11:42] <qswz> it's ok to have a filename starting with ~? like /home/john/dev/foo/~test.sql ?
[11:43] <qswz> it's practical because they go at the end
[11:45] <CoderEurope> MiguelFuller, not really.
[11:46] <MiguelFuller> I've been trying to fix my ethernet card speed in xubuntu for over 3 days now, I've asked on askubuntu and ubuntuforums and nothing works
[11:46] <MiguelFuller> I've got no help yet
[11:47] <MiguelFuller> I did post lspci -knn output can someone take a look at my post on askubuntu forum
[11:47] <CoderEurope> MiguelFuller, laptop or desktop pc, if so which one ?
[11:47] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: laptop
[11:48] <MiguelFuller> I can paste text info and pass it to you
[11:48] <CoderEurope> have you tried https://h-node.org/search/form/en ??
[11:50] <m4ss1m1l14n0> ciao
[11:53] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: I'm looking
[11:55] <CoderEurope> MiguelFuller, cool beans - remember to drink water :D
[11:56] <kubuntu_> i have to rsync my old home to my new ubuntu installation *but* the new /home was encrpyed with encrpytfs, how can i decrpyt it from cli?
[11:59] <SwedeMike> kubuntu_: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/178160/how-to-decrypt-ecryptfs-file-with-private-key-instead-of-passphrase
[11:59] <SwedeMike> kubuntu_: or rather https://robertcastle.com/2012/10/howto-recover-synology-encrypted-folders-in-linux/
[12:00] <ouroumov> kubuntu_, you sure it's not the [old] home that's encrypted? It'd make more sense. If the new one is encrypted you just need to login through GUI before you can rsync.
[12:02] <kubuntu_> SwedeMike: this is incovenient
[12:02] <kubuntu_> ouroumov: nope, my old home is not encrypted, i install ubuntu freshly and ticked the option to encrypt my home
[12:03] <kubuntu_> i could simply rsnyc data unencrpted over but i would like to put it into the decrptyed container
[12:04] <kubuntu_> basically i want to mount it
[12:07] <brainwash> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man1/ecryptfs-mount-private.1.html
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:23] <throstur> what's the ubuntu version of "chkconfig"?
[12:24] <juanonymous> i have cloned something on github, this hospitalrun.io
[12:25] <juanonymous> problem is i have deleted it's content on my system, but i think there is a hidden folder in here or something
[12:25] <juanonymous> that keeps me running on localhost:4200
[12:26] <juanonymous> and i don't know how to stop the systemd
[12:26] <juanonymous> can someone help me out?
[12:26] <rory> juanonymous: sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 4200
[12:27] <rory> juanonymous: that will give you the PID you can kill
[12:27] <scottjl> maybe check the github and see if it has uninstall instructions?
[12:29] <juanonymous> rory, actually there is no result when i issue that command
[12:29] <juanonymous> kristhian@kristhian-Lenovo-Flex-2-14:~$ sudo netstat -tulpn | grep 4200
[12:29] <juanonymous> kristhian@kristhian-Lenovo-Flex-2-14:~$
[12:30] <rory> juanonymous: netstat -tulpn command will show what is listening on each port
[12:30] <rory> juanonymous: where did you get localhost:4200 from?
[12:31] <juanonymous> i have cloned something on github it is called hospitalrun.io
[12:31] <juanonymous> which reuires me to have npm installed
[12:31] <juanonymous> and it's connection is on that port
[12:31] <juanonymous> default connection
[12:31] <selckin> how do i stop issue/motd spam?
[13:30] <strk> gpg-agent is getting in my way, how do I ask gpg to prompt me for a password on the console I'm writing into ?
[13:30] <strk> because otherwise it invokes gpg-agent which pops up an X window which is on a different display than the one I'm using
[13:30] <strk> (re-attached screen)
[13:40] <CrazySane> So I'm running 17.04 -> lightdm -> ubuntu-gnome3. I'm having an issue where Gnome (and the rest of the system?) locks up. I am usually doing something with a window / changing applications when it happens but I haven't been able to nail it down. Ideas of where to start looking?
[13:41] <bblindy> video card specs?
[13:42] <CrazySane> CTRL+ALT+F1 does nothing when it's locked up
[13:44] <CrazySane> bblindy: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730
[13:47] <leftyfb> CrazySane: I would start with video drivers
[13:48] <brainwash> CrazySane: check journalctl
[13:51] <brainwash> CrazySane: journalctl -b1  gives you system messages from the previous boot
[13:51] <CrazySane> brainwash: thanks
[13:51] <CrazySane> no persistent journal was found
[13:52] <brainwash> ohh
[13:53] <CrazySane> brb. I'm dumb. I hadn't realized that upgrading to 17.04 moved me back to the X.Org drivers.
[13:56] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: I was able to obtain the verndor ip and product id of my network card. can you help me? device type:Ethernet controller vendor:Digital Equipment Corporation vendorID:productID 1011:0019
[13:56] <MiguelFuller> anyone ^^
[13:57] <MiguelFuller> need to reconfigre my nic card on xubuntu to work faster than 1mb
[13:58] <CoderEurope> MiguelFuller, add it to the database & I shall look at it - use Trisquel live usb.
[13:58] <CoderEurope> !trisquel
[13:58] <CoderEurope> !Trisquel
[13:58] <CoderEurope> damn it.
[13:59] <MiguelFuller> how do i add it? I'm on links2 my computer can't run firefox, add it from the website? or manually
[14:00] <MiguelFuller> CoderEurope: on the h-node,org?
[14:00]  * oerheks wonders why trisquel
[14:01] <MiguelFuller> do i have to create an account?
[14:05] <leftyfb> MiguelFuller: are you 100% sure the ethernet cable you are using is a good cat5/cat5e/cat6 and the switch/hub/router you're plugged into is good and supports 100mb or above?
[14:07] <user3> hi , anybody there?
[14:07] <nathan> [vim] right now vim is automatically adding a tab when I work on cpp files. the only vimrc I can find doesn't have anything there... any ideas how to disable this?
[14:07] <nathan> hi user3
[14:27] <CrazySane> leftyfb: thanks. switched to NVidia drivers - time will tell if we'll lock up again, but I'm already seeing better video quality. I didn't realize it switched me back to the free drivers during the upgrade.
[14:28] <fabian__> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu, but it says it cannot install ext3 to root when using manual installation and cryted setup... always failing. is this not compatible?
[14:30] <chris__>  so, im not sure what happened, but now I get this error "chris is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." how do i add my name back into the superuser if I cant to sudo commands?
[14:30] <ikonia> chris__: you need to do it from recovery mode
[14:30] <ikonia> chris__: what did you do to remove it
[14:31] <chris__> im not sure.  i ran a script to install plexpy and then this happened
[14:31] <ikonia> untrusted script = untrusted system
[14:31] <akik> fabian__: i have ext3 on luks, but i didn't do it through the installer, so can't confirm
[14:31] <chris__> how do i do it from recovery mode?
[14:31] <ikonia> chris__: it's an option on the grub menu
[14:32] <mutedsigh> hello all, I have a question that's a bit technical. I'm currently testing a very large batch (think 300+) of SATA drives and I need to be able to hot swap them. The BIOS has them set to AHCI mode and since hot swapping is part of the spec I should be ok. I'm still worried that Linux may have trouble recognizing when a drive has been unplugged. (1) Should I unplug the drive from the power first or should I remove the SATA cable firs
[14:32] <chris__> shit, ok, thanks
[14:32] <mutedsigh> t? (2) Other than partprobe, is there any way to force Linux to rescan all of my SATA drives so that it becomes "aware" of what is connected and what isn't?
[14:32] <ikonia> chris__: please don't swear
[14:32] <fabian__> akik: it keeps failing on and on, ext4 too... dont know why...
[14:32] <fabian__> so it might be installer related
[14:33] <aadi> Hi all :)
[14:33] <akik> fabian__: can you see errors in ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f3 ?
[14:33] <chris__> sorry for the swearing
[14:34] <akik> i forgot which virtual console outputs installer stuff
[14:34] <chris__> and thanks again for the help
[14:35] <nick321> Hello. I've updated some packages, and now most of the window interfaces aren't working (screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/mVwrMEQ.png). Could someone please help in any way? I don't even know how to pin down specific package that causes problems. System is running xubuntu 17.04
[14:35] <fabian__> nothing there, no
[14:35] <akik> fabian__: so what is the actual error you get?
[14:36] <akkonrad> I have this issue on my laptop (ubuntu 14.04, core: 3.13.0-119) - from time to time it freezes and hangs, on system monitor I can see something like that when that happend: http://imgur.com/a/njvTn
[14:36] <akkonrad> usually my ram usage is much higher than this, since last system update it shows half of usage
[14:37] <aadi> I am having a problem with chrome browser, umm what is happening is that when I view a video in full screen and then when I press esc to exit full screen but then my top and side bar stuck up and keyboard too stops working, so I left with restarting the lightdm by virtual terminal. Can anyone help me.
[14:37] <fabian__> I should go back to partitioning because \ mounting point could not be bound to ext3 file system (free translation from my language) after pressing back, everything in the crypt mapper is messed up and nothing works and I'm left with rebooting or even a hard reset
[14:37] <akkonrad> it's very frustrating to work when system works like that...
[14:38] <akkonrad> I had much more apps in background and it was working good, recently it's crazy..
[14:39] <fabian__> I got a 200mb efi partition, one ext where i put boot and 2 which I want to crypt to put root and home...
[14:41] <akkonrad> and it looks like from time to time my keyboard want to write with tabs/spaces don't know why...
[14:42] <akkonrad> can I diagnose my system somehow to check what's wrong?
[14:42] <akik> fabian__: sorry i don't know
[14:42] <fabian__> ok, thank you so far :-)
[14:43] <akik> akik: do you get any prompt on creating the luks devices?
[14:46] <akik> fabian__: do you get any prompt on creating the luks devices?
[14:46] <fabian__> any prompt? what do you mean?
[14:47] <akik> fabian__: i followed this guide when i did it: http://thesimplecomputer.info/full-disk-encryption-with-ubuntu
[14:48] <akik> fabian__: the luks device needs to be initialized (and opened) before trying to make an ext3 file system on it
[14:48] <akik> fabian__: but i'm just wondering if the installer is showing you these steps anywhere
[14:48] <fabian__> nah, it probably does this in the background, its working heavily when choosing "crypted" volume and creates the mapper
[14:49] <akik> fabian__: does ctrl+alt+f4 show anything
[14:49] <Sinmaster> Windows is the best
[14:49] <fabian__> I just create the new partition, select the size, set it to crypted volume and after that choose the mounting point in the mapper
[14:50] <fabian__> no, it wont even show up right now...
[14:50] <fabian__> something is really wrong here...
[14:50] <Dreaman> Sinmaster  yes in vuruses is nomber 1
[14:50] <fabian__> only getting tty7 here
[14:50] <fabian__> others dont show up
[14:50] <aadi> Sinmaster, I also used to say this earlier but when I started using it goddamn, ubuntu is best bruh!
[14:50] <DJones> Sinmaster: Please don't troll
[14:50] <Sinmaster> but why, only in ubuntu you can type vUruses
[14:51] <aadi> DJones, Yes seriously
[14:51] <abdo> المولد
[14:52] <abdo> alexgr
[14:52] <Dreaman> Sinmaster  balgarche li si
[14:52] <Dreaman> lame
[14:52] <Sinmaster> no im using vpn
[14:52] <Dreaman> ok
[14:52] <fabian__> akik: getting this bug: http://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php?topic=25548.0
[14:53] <Sinmaster> оти, братле, проблем ли има
[14:53] <leftyfb> Sinmaster: please leave
[14:53] <leftyfb> Sinmaster: there's many more productive things you could be doing with your time
[14:54] <Random832> !ru ! Sinmaster
[14:54] <Random832> !ru | Sinmaster
[14:54] <Dreaman> Random832  is Bulgarian not russians
[14:54] <DJones> Sinmaster: This is Ubuntu support, if you have a support issue on Ubuntu you need help with, then you are welcome to ask it, but this isn't a chat channel
[14:54] <Sinmaster> I have support question
[14:54] <Dreaman> cyrillic not russian alphabet BULGARIAN
[14:54] <Random832> oops, is it racist that it all looks the same to me?
[14:55] <leftyfb> Sinmaster is a troll. There's no issue with language or explaining chat vs support. They need to be removed.
[14:55] <Dreaman> se canadians and usa same orn eng australians
[14:55] <Sinmaster> when Ubuntu will get close to Windows
[14:55] <Sinmaster> HAIL WINDOWS
[14:56] <Dreaman> Sinmaster  seen ubuntu0windoes edition
[14:56] <leftyfb> DJones: thank you
[14:56] <DJones> Dreaman: Please stay on topic (Ubuntu support)
[14:56] <Dreaman> ok
[14:57] <DJones> Dreaman: Thanks, much appreciated
[14:58] <fabian__> are there any problems, using a different filesystem?
[14:58] <fabian__> except ext3/4 ?
[14:59] <leftyfb> fabian__: depends on the filesystem
[14:59] <fabian__> just got a 500gb SSD installed, using it for daily computing, programming, got 1 or 2 VMs and a little gaming maybe from time to time?
[15:00] <leftyfb> fabian__: btrfs would be fine, while fat32 would be all sorts of headaches
[15:00] <akik> you can not install linux on fat32
[15:01] <akik> fabian__: the file systems in the installer are fine, but you have some other problem with the encryption setup
[15:01] <akik> fabian__: do you get a shell from some virtual console?
[15:02] <fabian__> yeah its just to give it a try that if it might work with a filesystem and the installation works I dont end up with a filesystem that does not suit my system in some way
[15:04] <fabian__> I can choose "try ubuntu without install" than i can get a console?
[15:04] <tomodachi> im having issuues with SSSD seems the cache is never expired properly for entires , so the membership of some groups is never updated  , any known workaround?
[15:05] <m1m1r> fabian__ yes, depending on your DVD even a DE
[15:06] <m1m1r> tomodachi you are using it within pam?
[15:07] <akik> tomodachi: sss_cache has an -E option for it
[15:07] <fabian__> ok, restarted it, now I have the console here
[15:09] <akik> fabian__: well i was hoping to see it during the installation
[15:09] <fabian__> ah ok, mhh, maybe I can start the installer from it
[15:10] <akik> tomodachi: the options for sss_cache seem to have changed last time i used it
[15:12] <akik> fabian__: at the time that the installer tries to make the file system, it should have already ran luksFormat and luksOpen on it
[15:12] <akik> fabian__: so you can test with "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sdxn" and check the return code with "echo $?"
[15:12] <akik> fabian__: if that returns "0" the luks device is ok
[15:17] <fabian__> ok, the error message states that it cannot put / on sda6_crypt, checking sda6 with your command returns 0
[15:17] <tomodachi> akik: yeah i have tried running sss_cache -E still the group isn't showing up
[15:18] <tomodachi> even sssh_cache -u theusername
[15:18] <fabian__> checking sda6_crypt doesnt exist or access denied (so I assume that its just the thing what the mapper calls it?
[15:18] <akik> fabian__: i wonder if you need to use some other device for the root fs. can you pastebin the contents of /dev/mapper ?
[15:18] <akik> fabian__: i've used /dev/md-0 and /dev/md-1 when creating the file systems
[15:18] <fabian__> different computers, sry
[15:19] <fabian__> but from the link you posted above I guess I can encrypt everything afterwards?
[15:19] <akik> fabian__: no it creates the luks devices before the installation
[15:20] <fabian__> yeah, but for me to get a running system now, wouldn't it be better to go your way and just make an unencrypted install and encrypt it afterwards?
[15:20] <fabian__> without the installer?
[15:20] <akik> fabian__: the doc i linked to you creates the luks devices BEFORE the installation
[15:21] <fabian__> oh
[15:21] <fabian__> now I get it
[15:21] <akik> fabian__: can you pastebin /dev/mapper contents?
[15:22] <fabian__> this computer has no internet access yet
[15:23] <akik> fabian__: do you see something starting with "md" ?
[15:23] <akik> fabian__: ls -al /dev/mapper
[15:23] <akik> fabian__: sorry starting with "dm"
[15:24] <fabian__> y
[15:24] <fabian__> sda6 and 7
[15:24] <fabian__> the ones I want for home and root
[15:24] <akik> fabian__: you have /dev/mapper/sda6 and /dev/mapper/sda7 ?
[15:25] <fabian__> no, only sda6/7_cryp
[15:25] <fabian__> _crypt
[15:28] <Jamin> Is there any reason I shouldn't begin a folder name with an underscore, like "_myfolder"
[15:30] <fabian__> akik: there is a file called control as well, sda6_crypt and sda7_control
[15:30] <fabian__> sda7_crypt*
[15:34] <akik> fabian__: i wonder if you can run "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/sda6_crypt" ? it will initialize that partition
[15:35] <fabian__> yes, that worked
[15:36] <akik> fabian__: how about the other partition? maybe now you can proceed with the installation
[15:38] <fabian__> worked as well, ok, I reboot and try again
[15:38] <fabian__> cause not the mapper is messed up O.o
[15:38] <fabian__> ^^
[15:38] <akik> fabian__: can't you continue now with the installer?
[15:39] <fabian__> no, it says something about informing the kernel, reboot required to proceed and when I want to do something in the partition table it gives me an error
[15:40] <fabian__> I mean, after the installer failed, not after your commands
[15:42] <fabian__> looking into /dev/mapper, they are gone, so I probably do it again, before executing the installer
[15:42] <akik> fabian__: maybe "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda6 sda6_crypt"
[15:46] <fabian__> that did the trick :-)
[15:47] <fabian__> lets see if the installer wants that
[15:47] <akik> fabian__: these will be written into /etc/crypttab (after installation)
[15:48] <fabian__> device for bootloader installation changed from default sda to dm0
[15:49] <fabian__> O.o
[15:49] <elkcl> ?
[15:49] <akik> fabian__: you probably want to put the boot loader into /dev/sda if you don't have any special setup
[15:50] <fabian__> yes, just wanted to let you know, cause you mentioned dm -something earlier ^^
[15:50] <akik> fabian__: do you have a separate /boot ?
[15:51] <fabian__> yes and there is an efi partition here O.o
[15:51] <akik> fabian__: ah you're on a uefi boot now?
[15:52] <fabian__> sry, didn't I mention what other partitions there were? sorry,
[15:53] <akik> fabian__: if you're booted in uefi mode, you should install the boot loader into the efi partition
[15:53] <fabian__> alright
[15:54] <fabian__> lets see...
[15:55] <fabian__> it does not complain until now, asked me to specify my user name. wow...
[15:56] <akik> fabian__: good luck. i hope you make it. have to go
[15:56] <fabian__> thank you very much for your help, man, awesome. :-)
[15:56] <fabian__> thanks a lot!!!
[16:12] <akkonrad> is there a tool that logs usage of cpu/ram by process and shows it in nice way?
[16:19] <madscientist> aaaaaaa
[16:20] <luis> .
[16:20] <nacc> akkonrad: you mean `top`? or `htop`?
[16:20] <nacc> akkonrad: not sure what you mean by 'logs' i guess
[16:22] <akkonrad> nacc, to log that to any file, not only show current state
[16:25] <nacc> akkonrad: so you want a log of every processes cpu and ram usage continuously? what does that even mean?
[16:25] <hashwagon> I'm new at bash scripting and I'm not sure of a better or more active channel for this question. Anyways I'm trying to make a menu within another option of another menu. It was working until I added the secondary menu. If anyone had a moment to see what I'm doing wrong I would appreciate it.  https://pastebin.com/0NT3952K
[16:26] <hashwagon> If someone had a better example I'd be willing to re-write it.
[16:26] <larsks> Is there a package build service similar to COPR (for CentOS/Fedora) but for Ubuntu?
[16:26] <nacc> hashwagon: active or not, #bash (or ##bash?) is the right place to ask a shell scripting question
[16:26] <nacc> larsks: Launchpad?
[16:26] <nacc> larsks: in a PPA
[16:27] <larsks> nacc: oh, awesome. My googling wasn't getting me anywhere, and I wasn't aware LP offered that.
[16:27] <larsks> I'll go look.
[16:27] <nacc> larsks: you can set upa  PPA and `dput` a srcpkg to it and it will build it
[16:27] <hashwagon> I'm getting: Syntax error: "done" unexpected (expecting ";;").
[16:27] <hashwagon> nacc: I'll post this over there thanks.
[16:27] <larsks> nacc, thanks, exactly what I want.
[16:27] <akkonrad> nacc, once per some time my system freezes and my CPU/Memory usage monitor shows hikes, but I'm not able to define responsible processes because during this time my computer is unusable. so I would like to log that to file and check after that happend so I could identify process and do soemthing with it
[16:27] <nacc> akkonrad: if your computer is unusable, *what* is going to log?
[16:28] <nacc> akkonrad: if it's locked up, the logging process won't run either
[16:29] <oerheks> syslog.1 or kern.log.1 could show things about the previoous session
[16:29] <oerheks> nacc +1  when frezing, no log will be written obviously
[16:30] <oerheks> and xorg.log perhaps ..
[16:30] <johnfg> hi folks
[16:30] <johnfg> I'm having trouble with lightdm accepting my credentials.
[16:30] <oerheks> xsessions-errors.old in your homefolder
[16:30] <nacc> akkonrad: my guess is that whatever is spiking cpu/memory is actually causing you to swap hard, and that is what is locking up, as you've become IO bound
[16:30] <johnfg> No problem if I login to a tty.
[16:31] <johnfg> What log would I look at to check out any errors?
[16:31] <nacc> johnfg: is this the server -> desktop migration with ldap?
[16:31] <nacc> johnfg: iirc, lightdm has logs
[16:31] <nacc> johnfg: under /var/log/lightdm
[16:31] <johnfg> nacc: Yes, and okay
[16:31] <johnfg> nacc: will look at it.
[16:31] <ducasse> could also be in /var/log/auth.log
[16:32] <nacc> johnfg: my guess is that lightdm might need some configuration (i'm not sure why it's not the default, or maybe it is) to know to use pam or pam_ldap or whatever
[16:32] <nacc> ducasse: good call, if the auth is failing
[16:33] <johnfg> nacc: I thought that yesterday, but I checked on the other machines running lightdm and openldap authentication, and the /etc/pam.d/lightdm files are the same.
[16:34] <nacc> johnfg: interesting, so you have other machiens that did the same upgrade? or were they stock desktop installations?
[16:35] <carpenike> Hi all, is it possible to have JuJu skip the ipv6 check when it bootstraps? I'm using a non-managed network (OVS) and juju fails the ipv6 bootstrap check.
[16:35] <carpenike> IPv6 is disabled on the parent interface associated with the bridged network.
[16:37] <johnfg> Some debian servers (jessie), one centos.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> carpenike: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one?
[16:38] <johnfg> Oh, and one debian stretch/testing in a vm.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !tab | johnfg
[16:39] <carpenike> lotuspsychje: Thanks I'll try that.
[16:40] <akkonrad> nacc, is that possible that start happening after update?
[16:42] <johnfg> nacc: What's the command that restarts lightdm again, please?
[16:42] <ppf> johnfg: systemctl restart lightdm
[16:42] <johnfg> ppf: Thanks!
[16:43] <johnfg> lightdm is actually failing to start session.
[16:46] <ppf> check .xsession-errors
[16:46] <johnfg> The log says: Seat seat0: Failed to find session configuration ubuntu.
[16:46] <akkonrad> nacc, according to my system monitor indication it's not swap
[16:47] <hunter__> Hello, does anyone know how to save the resolution to 1920x1080 i used xrandr but ever time i log off it resets
[16:48] <ioria> johnfg, so what de are you using ?
[16:49] <hunter__> Mate
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> hunter__: are you trying to set a resolution, not native to your screen?
[16:50] <hunter__> yes well my monitor suppourts 1920x1080 i've been using xrandr i have a windows 10 dual boot
[16:50] <hunter__> intel 4 chipset card
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> hunter__: wich resolution does ubuntu choose?
[16:52] <hunter__> 1024x768 is the highest but my screen is bigger than that. I have it set up to 1920x1080 using xrandr but everytime I logoff it resets
[16:52] <nacc> akkonrad: sorry, was afk -- is what possible exactly?
[16:52] <mekalavenkatesh> hi
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> hunter__: your on unity?
[16:53] <hunter__> I'm on mate
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | hunter__
[16:54] <johnfg> ioria: Just logging into a tty.  I just installed gnome-session, per something I googled, but it's still failing to start the session.
[16:55] <ioria> johnfg, why did you install gnome-session ?
[16:55] <ioria> johnfg, kinda remember you were on xfce
[16:56] <johnfg> ioria: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226247 shows the reason.
[16:56] <johnfg> Even though i installed cinnamon, not unity.
[16:57] <ioria> johnfg,  so you're not using xfce ?
[16:58] <chrowe> Has anyone run into an issue with software-center getting uninstalled when upgrading to 17.04 and then not being uninstallable again?
[16:58] <johnfg> No, I thought maybe there was a problem with the xfce install and lightdm, so tried cinnamon.
[16:58] <nacc> chrowe: you should not be using software-center anymore
[16:58] <nacc> chrowe: it doesn't exist in 17.04+
[16:59] <johnfg> btw...after I did an add-apt-repository, how do I remove it, as it's no longer needed?
[16:59] <ioria> johnfg,  so lightdm not detecting your xsession ... cd in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d and create a 50-myconfig.conf
[17:00] <ducasse> johnfg: add-apt-repository -r
[17:00] <chrowe> If I run 17.04 from the install USB I see it there though.
[17:00] <johnfg> ducasse: Thanks!
[17:00] <nacc> chrowe: run what?
[17:00] <chrowe> 17.04
[17:01] <nacc> chrowe: err, sorry, 'see it'?
[17:01] <nacc> !info software-center zesty
[17:01] <chrowe> software-center
[17:01] <nacc> chrowe: are you sure you have the released 17.04 and not a pre-release USB?
[17:02] <Saberu> hey guys I'm trying to install Mplayer from source, getting all kinds of errors :(
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> Saberu: why not install from repos?
[17:02] <nacc> !compiled | Saberu: you should ask mplayer for support for building from source, probably...
[17:02] <nacc> !compile
[17:02] <nacc> Saberu: --^ meant that, sorry
[17:02] <Saberu> because when I installed from the repos it didn't gett FAAC support. or is that something I can fix in the config file?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> Saberu: its recommended to install package versions for your specific ubuntu version
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> Saberu: if you find a bug then, report it with a !bug
[17:04] <nacc> Saberu: if you want to file a bug for requesting such a feature change, you can (or see if already filed), but build mplayer from source is not something we'd support here
[17:05] <Saberu> here someone has the same issue as me - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32610693/mencoder-faac-support-on-ubuntu-14-04
[17:06] <nacc> Saberu: right, they say to build from source, doesnt say it's supported
[17:06] <chrowe> nacc: I downloaded http://it-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu-releases/17.04/ubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso I can try again to confirm but maybe the better question is... Is there a replacement/alternative to software-center? Any documentation about why they stopped supporting it?
[17:06] <nacc> chrowe: yes, use gnome-software
[17:06] <Saberu> nacc that's all good and well, but I really need to get this working I have a whole app that depends on it :(
[17:06] <nacc> chrowe: because software-center is dead and dint' really work :)
[17:07] <Saberu> and there's barely anything in Google on this issue to help me
[17:07] <nacc> Saberu: also, not really an ubuntu support issue. I've given you all the advice I think you are going to get
[17:07] <Saberu> all I found was that page
[17:07] <Saberu> alright wel, thanks then
[17:07] <ioria> Saberu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Compiling%20MPlayer
[17:07] <nacc> Saberu: did you ask the mplayer developers or IRC channel?
[17:08] <Saberu> nacc that's my next stop, I just figured someone here might have experience with this issue
[17:09] <Saberu> thanks for that link ioria that's a wealth of information right there
[17:10] <ioria> Saberu, it's an old page but can give you hints
[17:11] <Saberu> yeh it's for 12.04, i'm on 14.04 so hopefully it will work
[17:12] <ioria> Saberu, i think you're interested in this pkg: libfaac-dev
[17:12] <Saberu> ioria, i already installed it through apt-get
[17:12] <Saberu> but the mplayer apt-get installation does not use it by default
[17:12] <Saberu> and unless it has a config file that i can just tell it to use it
[17:12] <Saberu> then im not sure
[17:13] <ioria> Saberu, you first dl all those pkgs, after you compile mplayer
[17:14] <Saberu> ioria, yes i am going to try compiling mplayer
[17:14] <Saberu> from source
[17:15] <nacc> Saberu: for context, LP: #374900
[17:15] <BluesKaj> just install mpv
[17:15] <nacc> is I *think* why mplayer does not use faac
[17:15] <Saberu> i know it adds faac support from source becausei t told me in the ./configure but i havent been able to compile it yet, hopefully with that guide it will compile
[17:16] <BluesKaj> compile mplayer from source, that's not necessary
[17:16] <Saberu> BlusKaj explain?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> !compile | Saberu
[17:18] <nacc> BluesKaj: if this user wants mplayer specifically to use faac, they will ahve to build it themselves. I already sent them that faq.
[17:18] <nacc> BluesKaj: as libfaac-dev is in multiverse
[17:22] <x3o>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-78-generic x86_64 ** Distro: neon "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 6 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,8GiB, 75,1% free ** Disk: Total: 513,2GiB, 82,3% free ** VGA: 1002:6798 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: 10ec:8168 ** Uptime: 1h 37m 39s **
[17:23] <BluesKaj> nacc,  ok undestood , guess I came late to the party :-)
[17:23] <nacc> x3o: please don't do that in this channel, it's just noise.
[17:26] <nacc> BluesKaj: :)
[17:27] <JustTheDoctor> i have a question, i am using ubuntu 14 ssh command prompt, how can i issue a find / replace command for all content of all files in ./ directory and sub directories?
[17:28] <ioria> JustTheDoctor, sed ?
[17:28] <JustTheDoctor> i could really use some help here,
[17:28] <boboma> hello. I have the problem that my wifi connection randomly stalles. It is still connected but nothing is working anymore until i disconnect it and reconnect. How to find out if this is the router or the computer who is causing the problem?
[17:29] <JustTheDoctor> i want to search ./* for myname and replace it with yourname i know to use sed, i dont know how to use sed
[17:29] <JustTheDoctor> can i get some advice / help plz?
[17:29] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: did you read `man sed` ?
[17:30] <JustTheDoctor> yes, i've also tried to use man sed on my own
[17:30] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: you probably have to use `find` with `sed -i`
[17:30] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: 'use man sed'?
[17:30] <JustTheDoctor> can you guys, just this one time, tell me the command i would use to search ./* files/sub folders & files.. and replace myname with yourname?
[17:31] <JustTheDoctor> i know how to search, i've tried search and replace,
[17:31] <JustTheDoctor> and replace part is something i need
[17:31] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: how do you search?
[17:31] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: you probably want something like `find . -type f -exec sed -i 's/myname/yourname/g' {} \;
[17:31] <jnewt> so i updated my nvidia graphics driver (the binary one from nvidia), and now i can't boot.  get stuck at the splash screen.  how do i go about rolling back the driver?
[17:32] <JustTheDoctor>  grep -r -H "myname" ./*
[17:32] <JustTheDoctor> that will console log every return of myname in any file/subfile
[17:32] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: passing './*' to a recursive command is silly
[17:32] <JustTheDoctor> how do i turn that into a replace
[17:32] <JustTheDoctor> nacc: but it works
[17:32] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: i just told you. you can't "turn" grep into a replace.
[17:32] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: yes, it's still silly
[17:33] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: recursiive grep can take a directory
[17:33] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: and using a glob in it implies you don't actually know what the command you are running is doing.
[17:34] <Saberu> oh what, how can i be missing standard C++-dev libraries..
[17:34] <Saberu> do i need to install the gcc compiler?
[17:34] <jnewt> i have the driver downloaded, i just don't know how to install it if i can't boot
[17:34] <nacc> Saberu: we don't know what you hve installed
[17:34] <nacc> Saberu: gcc isn't installed by default, no.
[17:34] <JustTheDoctor> then can you please this one time, give me the command to search /root/myapp/* for the words myname in all files and auto replace it with yourname?
[17:34] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: no, I gave you the command.
[17:34] <ioria> JustTheDoctor,  start with this : sed -e 's/foo/bar/g' *    ; if the result is good you can make it folder/recursive
[17:35] <JustTheDoctor> so maybe like
[17:35] <Saberu> well i have gcc-4.8 and libgcc-4.8-dev
[17:35] <JustTheDoctor> find ./ -type f -readable -writable -exec sed -i "s/myname/yourname/g" {} \;
[17:35] <nacc> jnewt: can't boot or just doesn't get to the gui login?
[17:35] <MiguelFuller> leftyfb: it's a new cat5e I read it on the bag and the swtich is the one I use for lan and internet and my other pc connected to it downloadeds at 8Mb/s so close to its limit
[17:35] <Saberu> but im getting a very basic compiler error -  #include <stdatomic.h>
[17:35] <nacc> JustTheDoctor: if you know that much about find, then you clearly don't need our help
[17:35] <Saberu> that looks like a standard C++ library to me.
[17:35] <johnfg> Not polling, but if you're running server, and a desktop, what are you running and do you prefer?
[17:35] <MiguelFuller> leftyfb: maybe you can help me troubleshoot my wireless pccard it doesn't work well either in fact worse
[17:35] <JustTheDoctor> i just wanted to confirm
[17:35] <nacc> johnfg: um, you *are* polling.
[17:35] <JustTheDoctor> and i feel the command i am using might be a lil unstable
[17:36] <jnewt> nacc hangs at the splash screen (the little green round symbol)
[17:36] <nacc> jnewt: boot into recovery and fix it?
[17:36] <johnfg> nacc: Sorry, any personal recommendations?
[17:36] <nacc> johnfg: no, and i think that'd be offtopic for here anywys
[17:37] <Saberu> it seems gcc 4.8 is missing the stdatomic library, very strange considering it's one of the fundamental libraries of C++
[17:37] <Saberu> the solution is to upgrade to gcc 4.9
[17:37] <nacc> Saberu: why are you using the non-default gcc?
[17:37] <Saberu> my repos came with 4.8
[17:37] <nacc> Saberu: what version of ubuntu?
[17:38] <Saberu> 14.04 Trusty
[17:39] <VeryNiceAlbino> Hi guys
[17:39] <BluesKaj> jnewt,  drop to a VT/TTY ,ctl+alt+F1-F6 m login then sudo apt remove nvidia-XXX (driver number) , then install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau , reboot , then check additional drivers for the recmmended nvidia driver...nvidia site drivers aren't supported
[17:39] <VeryNiceAlbino> Can i ask here for "Windows Substystem for Linux"?
[17:39] <ioria> !info libstdc++6-4.4-dev trusty | Saberu
[17:39] <Saberu> ahh i see thanks
[17:40] <nacc> !ubuwin | VeryNiceAlbino
[17:40] <VeryNiceAlbino> THANKS!!
[17:40] <nacc> Saberu: learn about tools like `apt-file`
[17:41] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do for a few mins
[17:41] <Saberu> presumably i should be installing libstdc++-4.8-dev though rather than 6.4.4?
[17:42] <nacc> Saberu: there is no such package (and don't confuse 6-4.4 with 6.4
[17:42] <nacc> Saberu: the libstdc++ version is not hte gcc version
[17:42] <Saberu> ok
[17:48] <jnewt> OK. I can boot to recovery mode.  Says fs is ro. And I have a menu.  I'm going to need a rw fs to install the old driver.
[17:48] <baTed> Hello. I get stuck at boot (blinking cursor) after installing nvidia driver (Geforce GT 920M); i've tried nearly all drivers available - exact same blinking cursor. Any advice ?
[17:49] <jnewt> Resume hangs.  Drop to root she'll does too
[17:49] <Amoeba_> Hello, I am trying to install a tar.gz application but the "make" command is not compiling information from the makefile. any tips?
[17:49] <jnewt> Bated multi monitor?
[17:49] <nacc> !compile | Amoeba_
[17:50] <baTed> jnewt, laptop monitor
[17:50] <nacc> Amoeba_: i would recommend contacting the origin of a tarball for help building it
[17:51] <Amoeba_> Thanks, I'll read up on it.
[17:51] <jnewt> How do i get a rw fs without loading gui?
[17:52] <nacc> jnewt: if you are in the recovery shell, then your disks are not necessarily mounted
[17:52] <nacc> jnewt: you need to mount your disk and cd to the mount point
[17:52] <ioria> jnewt, you mean mount -o remount,rw / ?
[17:53] <nacc> and/or that --^ depending on what is actually mounted when you are dropped to the recovery shell
[17:53] <jnewt> How do i do that from this recovery menu?
[17:53] <ioria> jnewt, root shell ?
[17:54] <MiguelFuller> leftyfb: I'll be here
[17:54] <baTed> update to my situation : when trying to install nvidia using terminal, I get DKMS error.
[17:55] <jnewt> Ioria, i can choose root shell and then enter for maint or ctrl d to continue
[17:55] <ioria> yes
[17:55] <nacc> baTed: what nvidia driver, what dkms error, what release of ubuntu?
[17:55] <jnewt> Then some stuff flies by and im right back at the menu, but without keyboard control
[17:56] <ioria> jnewt, if you can't access recovery shell, you need a live cd
[17:56] <jnewt> And i have to reboot
[17:57] <baTed> nacc : Ubuntu 17.04, nvidia 375.39, failed to run /usr/sbin/dkms build -m nvidia -v 375.39 -k (...). Kernel preparation unnecesarry for this kernel. Skipping. ERROR (dkms apport)> binary package for nvidia 375.39 not found. Bad return status for module build on kernel 4.10.0.19-generic
[17:58] <nacc> baTed: i know nothing about nvidia, but please use a pastebin and paste the full output, skipping stuff makes it impossible to help
[17:59] <baTed> give me 3 minutes. I am on another machine but i'll manage it somehow
[17:59] <croz> Is there any IRC client like Textual for Linux/Ubuntu? Especially where it shows link previews in-line in the chat?
[18:00] <jnewt> Ok, have shell, can see normal fs and driver i want to install.  Just run it from this shell?
[18:00] <baTed> nacc, https://pastebin.com/fhQbsGTw
[18:01] <nacc> baTed: can you pastebin the output of `cat /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/375.39/build/make.log` ?
[18:01] <Bashing-om> jnewt: Purge the old driver ? - why install from nVida rather than the supported drivers in our repos ?
[18:01] <baTed> sure
[18:01] <Saberu> still getting the error  #include <stdatomic.h>
[18:02] <baTed> nacc, https://pastebin.com/KXnuU4tq
[18:04] <boboma> hello. Randomly my connection dies with intel 8620. I am still connected via wifi but I dont have access to the net anymore.
[18:04] <boboma> I have to reconnect then.
[18:04] <nacc> baTed: do you have the kernels headers installed?
[18:04] <boboma> What could cause such a problem? Bad firmware?
[18:04] <baTed> nacc : is a fresh copy of 17.04 - nothing else installed
[18:04] <nacc> baTed: note also, that 4.10.0-19 is a bit old
[18:05] <nacc> baTed: as in that's the release kernel, but there have been security and updates since
[18:05] <tomreyn> boboma: bad firmware or driver, yes.
[18:05] <baTed> I've tried the newest kernel and same error - that's why I reinstalled all the system
[18:05] <VeryNiceAlbino> *whispers* Windows...
[18:05] <boboma> tomreyn, do you know a solution?
[18:06] <baTed> I can try update it again, but I guarantee that I'll get the same error.
[18:07] <Castbound> hello everyone: Im getting this on boot kernel: usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110, is rescue console, prompts me to Ctrl + D to continue or enter to root and check journalctl I can't get anything from searching for the same error, error -110 is not that common. All usb ports seem to work, same thing if I boot windows, nothing seems broken so far. Where/what else can I check
[18:07] <jnewt> Ok, got the driver installed, now i have a black screen with a message about /dev/nvme0n1p3 clean
[18:07] <VeryNiceAlbino> *whispers* get Windows, is cool, trust me
[18:07] <croz> any recommendations on a GUI Linux client for me to run? I use Textual on MacOS and love it due to simplicity, look, themes, and in-line URL previews.
[18:07] <tomreyn> boboma: not really, but maybe you can try to get newer firmware form intel's driver release and use that
[18:07] <jnewt> But it did make it past the splash logo
[18:08] <nacc> baTed: i'm really not sure: LP: #1663876 seems relevant
[18:08] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: please stop that
[18:08] <VeryNiceAlbino> What you got against it?
[18:09] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: it's offtopic in this channel. You are being rather rude.
[18:09] <BluesKaj> jnewt,  install dkms if needed
[18:09] <jnewt> Not moving past this message.  Is this a complete loss at this point?
[18:09] <tomreyn> boboma: can you do this: ls -l /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-* | pastebinit
[18:09] <VeryNiceAlbino> Is it offtopic? I've heard canonical and windows has joined forces
[18:09] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: you just asked me where to ask about that. I told you. not here.
[18:10] <baTed> nacc, I don't know if kernel is the issue, as in 16.04 all worked flawlessly
[18:10] <VeryNiceAlbino> "This channel supports Ubuntu and its official flavors"
[18:10] <VeryNiceAlbino> i think it is pretty official
[18:10] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: which windows is not.
[18:10] <boboma> tomreyn, I have a 8260 wifi card but i do not have a firmware for 8260. Could that be the problem?
[18:10] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: no, please read the faq that i sent and you thanked me for.
[18:11] <nacc> baTed: the upstream kernel has changed, 16.04's kernel is not relevant to 17.04, unofrtunately
[18:11] <baTed> so the advice is to get back to 16.04 for now
[18:11] <nicomachus> can I make window menus in Gnome display in the top panel instead of the window itself, like unity does? I need the real estate.
[18:11] <baTed> thank your for your time
[18:11] <baTed> *you
[18:11] <tomreyn> boboma: that would be a problem if it were so. but how do you know you dont have the firmware?
[18:11] <boboma> tomreyn, i see that the firmware that is used is 8000c-13
[18:11] <nacc> baTed: i would say so? or you can try and debug it furhter; that bug was closed as invalid because of that user's response at the end, i'm guessing
[18:12] <boboma> it's the latest one in ubuntu
[18:12] <boboma> also intel is offering that one as the latest
[18:12] <baTed> nacc, I'm not an advanced user, so I can't debug it further unfortunately :(
[18:12] <nacc> baTed: ok
[18:12] <boboma> how to see what causes connection death? is there any magic log or command?
[18:14] <jnewt> Ok, i can boot with my old crappy monitor.  How do i get it to work with my 4k one?
[18:14] <tomreyn> boboma: sudo update-pciids; lspci -nnk | grep -A1 8260
[18:14] <tomreyn> boboma: that's just toi determine your chipset
[18:15] <tomreyn> boboma: about logs, check /var/log/syslog for Network-Manager related records.
[18:15] <ducasse> nicomachus: probably not, aiui that functionality will go away when gnome is introduced so ubuntu doesn't have to maintain those patches
[18:15] <boboma> tomreyn, Intel Corporation Wireless 8260
[18:16] <tomreyn> boboma: that's not the only thing this command returned, and not the info i was loking for
[18:16] <nicomachus> ducasse: but the real estate!
[18:16] <tomreyn> boboma: i.e. please paste both 2 lines
[18:17] <boboma> Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 [8086:24f3] (rev 3a)
[18:17] <boboma> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 [8086:0050]
[18:17] <nicomachus> ducasse: I figured there wouuld be a shell extension for it but I'm not finding one.
[18:17] <Bashing-om> jnewt: HiDPI dispaly ? Then see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI .
[18:18] <ducasse> nicomachus: it needs cooperation from the applications, aiui - that's the major issue
[18:18] <nicomachus> ducasse: disappointing... ok.
[18:18] <VeryNiceAlbino> Ok, so i installed php-fpm but, when i "service php-fpm start" php-fpm: unrecognized service
[18:19] <tomreyn> boboma:okay, so you have this chipset in hardware revision 3a, it's PCI ID is [8086:24f3]. That's quite relevant, since companies tend to release hardware in varying versions which can behave entirely different, but come with an identical product name.
[18:20] <Saberu> screw this
[18:20] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: php-fpm is a metapackage. you probably want `service php7.0-fpm start`
[18:20] <Saberu> I'm going to store all my videos on openload
[18:21] <VeryNiceAlbino> How would i have figured that?
[18:21] <boboma> I saw something in the log: wpa_supplicant[1346]: wlp1s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with
[18:21] <boboma> what does that mean?
[18:21] <boboma> I saw something in the log: wpa_supplicant[1346]: wlp1s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with
[18:21] <boboma> what does that mean?
[18:21] <tomreyn> boboma: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/_media/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi-8000-ucode-16.242414.0.tgz should be the latest firmware available for your system (kernel >= 4.3) according to https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
[18:21] <VeryNiceAlbino> Is there a way, to rename it "service php-fpm start"?
[18:22] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: you can create a service file if you want. But that service file will then break on upgrades
[18:22] <nacc> VeryNiceAlbino: to 18.04, e.g.
[18:22] <tomreyn> boboma: this log line you posted seems to be cut off.
[18:22] <hivearts> hey guys
[18:22] <VeryNiceAlbino> Well, ok then
[18:22] <hivearts> is it safe to use LXD
[18:22] <hivearts> instead of KVM
[18:23] <hivearts> for my databases?
[18:23] <boboma> yes. I cut off my mac
[18:23] <nacc> hivearts: do you understand the difference between LXD and KVM?
[18:23] <hivearts> yes
[18:23] <hivearts> KVM is full hardware virtualization
[18:23] <boboma> it seems that there is a problem with re-keying
[18:23] <nacc> hivearts: then what do you mean by 'safe'?
[18:23] <hivearts> stability
[18:23] <boboma> no clues if that is the cause though
[18:24] <nacc> hivearts: i don't know how to answer your question. LXD is stable. KVM is stable (as stable as the guest OS itself is)
[18:24] <hivearts> so LXD should be stable as KVM is?
[18:24] <hivearts> and my guest os
[18:24] <tomreyn> boboma: try th eupdated firmware first. if it still doesn't help, you can try this 'workaround', which also decreases security of your wireless connection: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261225&s=36acfc5c3ec70a04f75a31861c24c913
[18:24] <hivearts> so there is no problem to run databases inside it
[18:25] <boboma> tomreyn, i will test that. thanks
[18:26] <tomreyn> boboma: also make sure you have intel microcode updates configured in "additional drivers"
[18:28] <hivearts> @naac: so i dont need to worry about OS or data failure?
[18:29] <hivearts> it should be stable the same as my root system is?
[18:29] <tomreyn> hivearts: in production, you would always run database servers on bare metal, ideally in a HA cluster.
[18:30] <hivearts> i should use a root system then, whats about some websites hosting?
[18:30] <hivearts> is it safe to use LXD as KVM is?
[18:31] <tomreyn> lxd is still bare metal, but compartmentalization where some syscalls are restricted. i have not tried to run mysqld inside an lxd container.
[18:31] <BluesKaj> jnewt,  scroll down to "install graophics drivers"  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-17-04
[18:32] <hivearts> @tomreyn ill use mysql on root system
[18:34] <nacc> hivearts: i don't know what stabililty has to do with "not worrying about OS or data failure"?
[18:35] <nacc> hivearts: if your computer crashes, all yoru LXD and KVM crash too
[18:35] <hivearts> whats for sure, i have 2 bare metal servers
[18:35] <hivearts> and ill backup all data once a day
[18:35] <hivearts> just want to know does LXD can crash himself
[18:36] <nacc> hivearts: are you asking if LXD can ever crash?
[18:36] <nacc> hivearts: you understand that's a ridiculous question, right?
[18:36] <hivearts> no, i am asking does LXD crash more then KVM
[18:37] <nacc> hivearts: i don't know how to measure that. use it and see?
[18:37] <hivearts> well probably ill do that
[18:38] <hivearts> is it possible to easy backup LXD images without turning it off?
[18:38] <hivearts> so i can make daily backups to another machine
[18:39] <heylel> Hi guys
[18:40] <heylel> Is anyone from Brazil?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> !br | heylel
[18:40] <heylel> Hi there
[18:44] <juergen_> H
[18:47] <GrandPa> Hi There
[18:49] <tomreyn> welcome back, jürgen
[18:58] <pos> Have anyone else been having trouble with the xenial update to kernel 4.4.0-78?
[18:58] <rx-natasha-marry> I use mint
[18:58] <GrandPa> Nope
[18:59] <rx-natasha-marry> why not
[18:59] <pos> amongst other things the iwlwifi module is seemingly corrupt
[19:00] <tomreyn> !mint | rx-natasha-marry
[19:00] <rx-natasha-marry> its the same
[19:00] <tomreyn> it's not
[19:01] <rx-natasha-marry> sudo everything
[19:01] <tomreyn> ?
[19:01] <rx-natasha-marry> sudo everything just like ubuntu
[19:02] <tomreyn> you can also run sudo on sun OS, but it's not the same system
[19:02] <rx-natasha-marry> I like you guys
[19:03] <rx> hello
[19:04] <GrandPa> welcome back natasha-marry
[19:05] <rx> lol
[19:13] <croz>  hey guys im a linux noob. im seeing there is a theme manager i can install using the commands: ./configure --with-theme-manager and make && sudo make install.... do i do this in any terminal? do i have to go to a specific folder?
[19:14] <brainwash> croz: from where do you have these instructions?
[19:16] <ioria> croz if you are 'linux noob' ,  don't do that
[19:16] <nchambers> croz, you do it in the folder where the source code for the project is
[19:17] <croz> hmmmm where did hexchat install itself i should have paid attention i just used apt
[19:17] <Saberu> yeh vdont install from source if ur a noob xD
[19:17] <ioria> croz, 'make install' is a dangerous command
[19:17] <tomreyn> that's not the standard uncomplicated way of installing software, don't use it unless you are into building software already.
[19:17] <croz> ok thanks
[19:18] <tomreyn> if youz'll tell us what you are trying to achieve there maybe we can suggest alternatives
[19:19] <croz> just want to install a theme
[19:19] <ioria> !themes
[19:20] <hamdjan> how do i add this repo to ubuntu? http://download.bareos.org/bareos/release/latest/xUbuntu_16.04/
[19:20] <croz> no i mean a theme for hexchat sorry
[19:21] <ducasse> hamdjan: see their instructions
[19:21] <MiguelFuller> can someone help me identify the chipset of my ethernet network card? I got the product id and vendor id, the vendor name is Digital Equipment Corporation and there is a DECchip 21142/43 info too
[19:21] <ioria> croz,  you don't need .conf, make make install for that
[19:21] <croz> on a site i was reading it said u do to install a theme manager
[19:21] <croz> otherwise u have to unzip into somewhere
[19:22] <ioria> right
[19:22] <MiguelFuller> croz: I love themes and sounds into enviroments too
[19:22] <akik> MiguelFuller: tulip is the module probably
[19:23] <hamdjan> ducasse, ah they have it documented nicely, thanks!
[19:23] <ioria> croz,  e.g : cp Classic.hct ~/.config/hexchat/
[19:23] <ioria> cd ~/.config/hexchat/
[19:23] <ioria> unzip -o Classic.hct
[19:23] <ioria> croz,  https://dl.hexchat.net/themes/
[19:26] <croz> how do u enter a space in terminal if its part of the file name
[19:27] <croz> god i have so much to learn
[19:27] <Kexoni> hello
[19:27] <ioria> croz, quote it or use <tab>
[19:27] <ducasse> croz: quote the filename
[19:27] <Kexoni> how to change trash path?
[19:27] <Kexoni> to another volume
[19:27] <croz> i tried tab already doesnt finish it
[19:28] <ioria> croz,  filename ?
[19:28] <croz> ah \ before space i think
[19:29] <Bashing-om> croz: ^ that too works .
[19:29] <croz> yeah
[19:32] <croz> there we go
[19:33] <croz> thanks guys
[19:33] <croz> got the theme installed :D
[19:34] <ioria> croz,  post a screenshot :þ
[19:34] <croz> gotta learn how to do that first XD
[19:34] <ioria> !screenshot
[19:34] <croz> gonna install shutter i think
[19:34] <ioria> scrot
[19:40] <croz> ioria, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1495136404.png
[19:40] <ioria> good ----
[19:41] <ioria> croz, tango dark ?
[19:41] <croz> black.hct
[19:41] <ioria> ok
[19:41] <croz> man textual on macos looks so much better than this though
[19:41] <croz> someone port it
[19:41] <croz> XD
[19:42] <ioria> good job
[19:42] <croz> thanks to you guys!
[19:42] <ioria> no problem
[19:44] <sloano> Got a question that's possibly a hardware problem.  If this isn't the right channel, I apologize.  Got a 16.04 server that is having trouble starting up. I just reinstalled and now it's halting the machine consistently at the same step.  I tested RAM and SSD without any errors.  Any ideas?
[19:45] <ioria> sloano, where it stops ?
[19:45] <sloano> Just reinstall?  After the machine is halted I have to flip the power supply off and then on in order to get it to boot up to that point again.  If I don't the machine halts during BIOS startup.
[19:45] <TheMarius> #ubuntu-help is invite only so yes this is the right channel, sloano
[19:45] <croz> lol
[19:45] <Bashing-om> sloano: Raid ? did the arrays build ?
[19:46] <sloano> ioria: I can't remember exactly.  It's one of the users setup steps.  Everything loads with a status of OK and then it powers off.
[19:46] <sloano> Bashing-om: It's a single SSD
[19:47] <ioria> sloano, you should see where it hangs .... server has a text boot ...
[19:48] <newlinux> Hi
[19:48] <newlinux> Is there any live ubuntu with ATI driver on it?
[19:49] <oerheks> newlinux, all linux versions, not ubuntu only, have the new openradeon or amdgpu driver loaded standard
[19:50] <oerheks> but no more fglrx
[19:50] <TheMarius> should be on all but ati drivers in general are horrible on linux.. buy nvidia
[19:50] <newlinux> oerheks: What is fglrx?
[19:50] <oerheks> TheMarius, wrong, openradeon works fine here, 2 screens and i can play 2 movies at the same time, ati hd5450
[19:50] <oerheks> = old card
[19:50] <ioria> !amd | newlinux
[19:51] <TheMarius> i had ati radeon 5870 and sold it for $30 or so and bought a nvidia 670
[19:51] <TheMarius> cause it SUCKED under linux
[19:51] <newlinux> ubottu: So what should I do if I have a older computer?
[19:51] <oerheks> newlinux, what ati card?
[19:51] <TheMarius> bought the 670 used so i didnt pay much for the upgrade
[19:52] <ioria> newlinux,   lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[19:52] <lavinho> help me
[19:52] <oerheks> TheMarius, that is your experience, not the general pov
[19:52] <lavinho> no boot trisquel
[19:52] <lavinho> prompt grub
[19:52] <TheMarius> oerheks, im not the only one with that experience from what i gathered
[19:52] <lavinho> lenovo ideapad 100s
[19:52] <oerheks> lavinho, nohelp here for trisquel, find their irc channel, or try ##linux
[19:53] <TheMarius> now i finally have a desktop with descent gaming performance under linux
[19:53] <TheMarius> did that last year
[19:53] <pyguu> how can I access my win install from dual boot
[19:53] <pyguu> files
[19:53] <oerheks> pyguu, hold shift @ boot, and grub menu appears
[19:54] <pyguu> oerheks: sorry i mean from ubuntu
[19:54] <pyguu> access win files
[19:54] <OaKLeY> hi guys
[19:54] <oerheks> pyguu, depends, is windows installed on ntfs? then the disk should be in your filemanager.
[19:54] <OaKLeY> I have over 100 files in CI which i would like to make copy in the same directory to similar file name but this time Ucfirst.. e.g would like to copy aaa to Aaa, bbb to Bbb, ccc to Ccc... Anyone know linux command for this? Need to do this recursively for subfolders too.
[19:54] <oerheks> if on ExFat, then you will need to install 2 files ...
[19:54] <newlinux> oerheks: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
[19:55] <SwedeMike> TheMarius: I have a GTX260 on my ubuntu box, I can play several steam games just fine, for instance rocket league plays fine even in 120Hz.
[19:55] <oerheks> pyguu, for exfat: sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[19:55] <pyguu> oerheks: I don't see it. it's windows 10
[19:55] <TheMarius> must be the new open amd drivers then
[19:55] <TheMarius> they werent around last year, only a buggy fglxr
[19:55] <oerheks> newlinux, ati 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx are old, maybe they work with the openradeon, but i guess not..
[19:56] <oerheks> newlinux, you could have read that in the url from ubottu
[19:56] <TheMarius> and then 16.04 even dropped support for that, and only gave me a preshipped open driver that made my videocard go whooooooooooo
[19:56] <oerheks> TheMarius, now please stop that, thanks
[19:57] <TheMarius> thats how it sounded like
[19:57] <ioria> newlinux, it's supported by radeon
[19:57] <TheMarius> so im glad i got rid of that dumb videocard.. no more ati for me after that
[19:57] <pyguu> oerheks: I think i see it but it's giving an error that it's in hibernation state
[19:57] <newlinux> ioria: So what should I do then?
[19:57] <oerheks> ioria, i think not, 4xxx was not supported by fglrx either
[19:57] <newlinux> oerheks: Can you please tell me what to do?
[19:57] <ioria> oerheks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[19:57] <schahermacher> how to sort files by size in hierarchy in terminal ls -s?
[19:58] <ioria> oerheks,  RV710/RV730    item
[19:58] <OaKLeY> I have over 100 files in CI which i would like to make copy in the same directory to similar file name but this time Ucfirst.. e.g would like to copy aaa to Aaa, bbb to Bbb, ccc to Ccc... Anyone know linux command for this? Need to do this recursively for subfolders too.
[19:59] <newlinux> ioria: What ubuntu live .iso should I download to get my graphic working?
[19:59] <oerheks> newlinux, nothing, that card is too old, i believe the wiki is wrong
[19:59] <ioria> newlinux,  have you tried 16.04 ?
[19:59] <bray90820> So the service is clearly running but systemctl still says failed
[19:59] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/sFvwEchJ
[19:59] <dextre> hola
[20:00] <dextre> a todos
[20:00] <newlinux> oerheks: Really? So I cant use ubuntu live with my computer then?
[20:00] <newlinux> oerheks: Is there really no way?
[20:00] <ioria> oerheks, i use lubuntu 16.04 with an older card than that
[20:00] <newlinux> ioria: not but I tried debian, if that makes any sense?
[20:00] <ioria> newlinux,  nope
[20:01] <newlinux> ioria: debian live
[20:01] <newlinux> ok
[20:01] <ioria> newlinux,  burn a 16.04 ubuntu iso and try
[20:01] <ioria> newlinux,  i use it with an rv350
[20:01] <newlinux> ioria: live iso?
[20:02] <ioria> newlinux,  yes, the ubuntu desktop isos are 'live'
[20:02] <oerheks> ioria, perhaps with 14.04, not 16.04 with newer xorg?
[20:02] <ioria> oerheks, yep, 16.04
[20:02] <dextre> hello there
[20:03] <newlinux> ioria: 16.04.2?
[20:03] <ioria> newlinux,  ok
[20:04] <newlinux> ioria: How do you burn the .iso to USB? win32diskimager?
[20:05] <ioria> newlinux,  rufus on windows, dd on linux, but honestly i don't recommend unit, maybe xubuntu is better for that card
[20:05] <ioria> *unity
[20:05] <newlinux> ioria: thank you bro
[20:05] <ioria> no prob
[20:06] <croz> damn no native wunderlist for linux D:
[20:06] <baTed> guys, another problem. I installed synaptics and now my keyboard dosen't work, and neither do external usb keyboards. The only thing that works is my touchpad (and my keyboard until X loads). I cannot switch alt + Fx to enter cli and remove the package. Any advice ?
[20:07] <pyguu> installing linux subsystem for win is so hax0r
[20:08] <schahermacher> ok how can i sort files and show only the ones with edentical size pls?
[20:10] <schahermacher> identical not edentical sorry
[20:11] <YankDownUnder> schahermacher, Depends on the file manager you're using.
[20:11] <akik> schahermacher: you can run "ls -al | sort -n -k column" but i didn't get what you mean by identical size
[20:13] <baTed> no ideas for my non-working keyboard ? :(
[20:14] <riesenhammer> servus
[20:14] <akik> baTed: add systemd.unit=multi-user.target as a kernel parameter
[20:14] <riesenhammer> ihr geilen säue
[20:14] <riesenhammer> anyone that already has compiled his own körnel?
[20:14] <baTed> akik, keeping shift on boot ?
[20:14] <riesenhammer> ei leik tu muv it muv it
[20:14] <baTed> *right shift
[20:14] <riesenhammer> baTed: do you have debian?
[20:15] <baTed> 16.04
[20:15] <akik> baTed: whatever you need to do :)
[20:15] <riesenhammer> debian helps to make linux great again
[20:15] <riesenhammer> yeah
[20:15] <riesenhammer> thanks
[20:15] <baTed> akik, I add that line to grub ?
[20:16] <akik> baTed: yes on the linux line
[20:16] <riesenhammer> grub-install
[20:16] <riesenhammer> grub is great
[20:16] <leftyfb> riesenhammer: can we help you with something?
[20:17] <riesenhammer> i'm quite familiar with linux and so i'm now in doubt between ubuntu and debian
[20:17] <leftyfb> riesenhammer: try them both and decide
[20:17] <riesenhammer> i think i will set up two vm's and try both systems for a while
[20:18] <riesenhammer> leftyfb: thank you
[20:18] <riesenhammer> echo ei leik tu muv it muv it | wall
[20:18] <baTed> akik, now the touchpad stopped responding :)))
[20:19] <riesenhammer> i will compile my first new kernel right now
[20:19] <riesenhammer> i hope i am lacky
[20:19] <riesenhammer> lucky
[20:19] <baTed> I'll reinstall everything tomorrow. Thank you for your answers :)
[20:19] <riesenhammer> incidentally deleted modprobe :-(
[20:20] <riesenhammer> wtf
[20:20] <riesenhammer> no modules can be loaded anymore right now
[20:20] <riesenhammer> i will build a monolithic körnel
[20:20] <leftyfb> riesenhammer: please leave
[20:21] <riesenhammer> ok. sorry, really in trouble
[20:21] <riesenhammer> have a nice day
[20:21] <schahermacher> YankDownUnder, akik - i am using default ubuntu terminal and i need to delete files with identical size
[20:23] <newlinux> ioria: Yes it work! Do you know why it works with ubuntu and not debian itself?
[20:26] <leftyfb> schahermacher: fdupes .
[20:27] <leftyfb> schahermacher: or fdupes . -S
[20:27] <leftyfb> or man fdupes
[20:27] <croz> how do i check which nvidia drivers, if any, i have installed?
[20:28] <tomreyn> croz: if they're packaged: dpkg -l '*nvidia*'
[20:29] <YankDownUnder> schahermacher, If you're using "ls" to list, try: "man ls" => that will help in listing files of the same criteria (size) - and more...
[20:29] <Mr_Pan> hallo    i have problem to import .ovpn file in network-manager ..
[20:29] <croz> tomreyn, it says version <none> under that column for each thing
[20:30] <tomreyn> croz:  so yuo have no packaged nvidia driver installed.
[20:31] <tomreyn> croz: if you want to know which dirver is currently in use: lspci -knnv | grep -A20 VGA | grep 'Kernel driver in use:' | head -n1
[20:32] <tomreyn> ... or glxinfo -B
[20:35] <tomreyn> Mr_Pan: you'll need to provide more details, such as what does not work and how you expected it to behave
[20:37] <musti> guys i need a advise about postfix,its running good sending and recieving mails.also i am running SquirrelMail
[20:37] <musti> its working perfect.but i want to connect my mailbox from my cell phone but i couldnt it says authentication failed..any idea?
[20:37] <Mr_Pan> tomreyn, ok
[20:39] <istevenmon> hi guys i am trying to set umask 0002 for www-data but apache2 is not reading or ignoring the /etc/apache2/envvars could anyone help
[20:41] <Mr_Pan> tomreyn, when i trz to import .ovnp file i receive this error >> https://i.imgur.com/M9tmEFF.png
[20:47] <luden73> sers
[20:47] <luden73> ei leik tu muuv it muvv it
[20:47] <luden73> anyone?
[20:48] <croz> On this site (https://askubuntu.com/questions/893634/ubuntu-on-dell-xps-15-9560-2017) it says that for my new 7th gen i7 CPU i should upgrade to a newer kernel? Is that really necessary? Is it a security thing?
[20:49] <luden73> you have to upgrade to a newer körnel, thats right
[20:49] <luden73> otherwise your cpu can overheat
[20:49] <luden73> stock kernel is so bad for new 7th gen cpu's
[20:49] <luden73> always use the newest körnel
[20:50] <luden73> it's important. do a make menuconfig, remember all the important things and you are done
[20:50] <tomreyn> Mr_Pan: install the network-manager-openvpn-gnome package
[20:50] <luden73> probably you should use ubuntu, though
[20:51] <Mr_Pan> tomreyn, done but not function
[20:51] <tomreyn> Mr_Pan: was it installed already?
[20:51] <croz> luden73, so in terminal just make menuconfig will update kernel?
[20:52] <luden73> not just that, but i'm loving it
[20:52] <luden73> was starting with suse linux 6.4 many years ago, and that was great
[20:55] <amirite> your momma
[20:56] <luden73> my mum is using suse 6.3
[20:56] <luden73> she needs an update right now
[20:56] <luden73> it's quite old
[20:57] <tomreyn> croz: i could not tell whether using a newer kernel than the one which comes with 16.04 LTS by default is necessary. if so, I would suggest you use the HWE one.
[20:58] <tomreyn> !hwe | croz
[20:58] <nacc> croz: afaict, luden73 seems to be trolling.
[20:58] <croz> really?
[20:58] <nacc> croz: i would ignore their input tbh
[20:59] <nacc> croz: it's my opinion, but yes it actually is my opinion.
[20:59] <newlinux> Do I really have to install ubuntu before I can use sudo?
[20:59] <nacc> newlinux: that question doesn't make sense?
[20:59] <colints> i mean
[20:59] <colints> it kind of does
[20:59] <nacc> newlinux: do you mean in the live usb?
[20:59] <newlinux> nacc: If I do sudo it ask me for password, I dont know what password to type?
[20:59] <croz> ugh
[20:59] <newlinux> nacc: yes
[20:59] <nacc> newlinux: your user's password
[20:59] <nacc> !sudo | newlinux
[20:59] <croz> user pswd
[21:00] <nacc> iirc, doesn't the live usb user have a default 'ubuntu' password?
[21:00] <newlinux> nacc: How do I know the users password? I didnt set any password.
[21:00] <croz> brb rebooting installed some drivers gonna see how it goes and if i can play dota.
[21:00] <croz> how do i know if i need a newer kernel or not
[21:00] <luden73> sorry, but it's for real. i have to replace suse 6.3. as far as i can say, i will choose some debian distro for it
[21:00] <nacc> suse 6.3 was in 1999.
[21:01] <nacc> luden73: you can do whatever you want, but if you don't know how ubuntu works, please don't give advice to users.
[21:01] <nacc> croz: define "need"?
[21:01] <joseph__> what is this
[21:01] <nacc> croz: i mean, if you "need" a new kernel, your existing kernel won't boot.
[21:01] <nacc> joseph__: this is the ubuntu support channel
[21:01] <croz> as in how do i know if the CPU is overheating and if i need a newer kernel for 7th gen i7
[21:01] <tomreyn> croz: unless everything works fine, you don't need a newer kernel.
[21:01] <joseph__> OOH
[21:01] <croz> yeah everything "seems" to be fine...
[21:02] <nacc> croz: check the sensors for overheating
[21:02] <newlinux> nacc: So I cant use sudo / root with live?
[21:02] <joseph__> bye sorry to interupt
[21:02] <nacc> newlinux: afaik, yes
[21:02] <newlinux> nacc: How?
[21:02] <nacc> newlinux: but i'm not sure what you're trying to do? live sessions aren't persistent unless you have set up persistence
[21:02] <nacc> newlinux: as i said, i thought there was a default password (or it was passwordless) in the live session
[21:03] <nacc> newlinux: i'm not sure and i don't have a live session to test right now
[21:03] <croz> nacc, what's a reasonable temperature range so i know if i need a kernel change or not?
[21:03] <newlinux> nacc: What do you mean by live sessions arent persistent
[21:03] <newlinux> ?
[21:03] <nacc> newlinux: if you are in the live USB and reboot, it just starts over
[21:03] <nacc> newlinux: nothing is saved to the USB drive (by default)
[21:03] <nacc> !persistence | newlinux
[21:05] <nacc> croz: i assume it depends on your cpu and workload
[21:05] <nacc> croz: i'd check the manual for your cpuy
[21:05] <nacc> *cpu
[21:06] <nacc> it's possibly the sensors package has some sane defaults and will tell you too
[21:06] <croz> im sorry im such a noob :(
[21:06] <croz> dont even know about sensors package
[21:06] <croz> maybe i should stick to mac XD lmao
[21:07] <newlinux> nacc: ok thank you
[21:07] <croz> but i just dropped $2k on a laptop to learn ubuntu and play dota in ubuntu while bored XD
[21:07] <nacc> croz: that might not be the name, i'm not sure
[21:07] <nacc> croz: feels like you overpaid for a laptop to learn :)
[21:07] <nacc> croz: but that's neither here nor there
[21:07] <croz> i wanted to be sure i could play DOTA 2 with max settings XD
[21:07] <croz> and this 4k display is so purrty
[21:15] <newlinux> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0b4I89LY5E why does this guy encryption manually and not togheter with the ubuntu installation?
[21:16] <nacc> newlinux: i'm not going to watch it, but maybe ask the person?
[21:17] <newlinux> nacc: I dont know him actually
[21:17] <nacc> newlinux: well, sure, but youtube has comments, etc. in any case not really the point of this channel :)
[21:30] <fabian__> Hi, has anybody experienced problems after installing the kubuntu-desktop package and enabling nvidia drivers? when I enable them in the driver manager, I cant even make it to the desktop and all that helps is purging nvidia-*. Anybody similar experiences?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> fabian__: What card, what driver, what release ?
[21:32] <fabian__> ubuntu 17.04 as well as kubuntu 17.04, GTX1070, drivers 375, 378 and 381
[21:33] <fabian__> enabling them I cannot even open the KDE terminal, but when I leave a terminal open, enable them and after that purge it, I can open the terminal again
[21:34] <fabian__> and I cannot logout to switch back to unity, so all is left is a hard reset for my computer, recovery root shell, purging... :-(
[21:40] <Bashing-om> fabian__: Odd indeed . I have seen on launchpad that the drivers available in the PPA "might" work the better than that of the repo . Want to try ?
[21:41] <fabian__> tried them already
[21:42] <fabian__> you mean graphics-drivers/ppa?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> fabian__: Yeah .. Nvidia recommends the 375 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us .
[21:43] <fabian__> with ubuntu 17.04 on this system everything worked fine.. but kubuntu does not like nividia on my system...
[21:44] <Bashing-om> fabian__: Ya running both unity and KDE DEs ?
[21:44] <fabian__> did that before, right now I installed kubuntu
[21:44] <fabian__> but its the same behaviour
[21:45] <fabian__> thats why I tried a fresh install, cause I thought, installing kubuntu-desktop package "killed" something
[21:47] <Bashing-om> fabian__: Got me . I do not know what in KDE could have such an adverse effect .
[21:48] <oerheks> maybe nomodeset makes it work, but i wonder why kubuntu works and ubuntu not.
[21:48] <fabian__> na, kubuntu does not work either
[21:48] <fabian__> nomodeset does not work
[21:49] <fabian__> when I open nvidia settings it does not detect anything, maybe because I did not reboot after insallation, dont know, but rebooting I dont come to the desktop, so, might not know :-D
[21:49] <oerheks> oh oke
[21:49] <oerheks> Maybe something else is the culprit, did you check for a bios update for your motherboard??
[21:50] <oerheks> or that 1070 consumes too much power
[21:50] <fabian__> yes, kept it up to date, and until yesterday it worked fine with ubuntu 17.04, until I tried it with kubuntu-desktop package :-D
[21:53] <fabian__> nouveau is just working fine, but all the nvidia drivers cause it to crash, guess I have no choice but to go make a clean ubuntu install
[21:53] <akik> uövluc?96{6tf5556%
[21:54] <fabian__> Hi akik :-D
[22:00] <hfgdb> I upgraded my server to 17.04 (do-release-upgade from 16.04). The network is now really slow, from about 1gbit to 300mbit
[22:00] <nacc> hfgdb: you do-release-upgrade'd twice?
[22:00] <hfgdb> yes
[22:00] <nacc> hfgdb: have you rebooted?
[22:00] <hfgdb> yes
[22:00] <nacc> after upgrading, that is
[22:00] <nacc> ok
[22:01] <Bashing-om> fabian__: A thoight, you do not have "nomodeset" set in the grub file do you ?
[22:01] <hfgdb> i would not call that okay, that is bad
[22:01] <hfgdb> Any idea how to resolve this?
[22:02] <nacc> hfgdb: i meant, 'ok, you rebooted'.
[22:02] <hfgdb> oh, sorry
[22:02] <nacc> hfgdb: how are you measuring the network speed?
[22:02] <cyberpopo> hello is this live
[22:02] <fabian__> Bashing-om no
[22:02] <hfgdb> using iperf
[22:02] <hfgdb> and speedtest-cli
[22:03] <Bashing-om> fabian__: :) was but a thought .
[22:03] <fabian__> :-) yes, with nomodeset even nouveau breaks, but yes, thank you
[22:04] <nacc> cyberpopo: yes.
[22:04] <nacc> hfgdb: i'm not sure, you're full up to date now?
[22:05] <fabian__> yeah, this is annoying, I think I just do a clean 17.04 ubuntu install for now, need a working system at least
[22:06] <fabian__> thank you for your help
[22:06] <hfgdb> what do you mean with i'm not sure, you're full up to date now?
[22:06] <hfgdb> the server is up to date
[22:07] <zzzed> help pls; pressing F1 says "Document Not Found The URI ‘help:gnome-help/files’ does not point to a valid page."
[22:07] <zzzed> zesty soemthing
[22:07] <sambi> hi there
[22:07] <zzzed> ohai
[22:08] <zzzed> am awaiting help from the wizards...
[22:08] <sambi> can i help?
[22:08] <zzzed> help pls; pressing F1 says "Document Not Found The URI ‘help:gnome-help/files’ does not point to a valid page."
[22:09] <nacc> zzzed: where are you pressing f1?
[22:09] <nacc> zzzed: as in, in what context
[22:09] <zzzed> it's prob an easy thing; I'm new to Ubuntu (kinda)
[22:09] <zzzed> in any app, e.g. here in firefox
[22:09] <zzzed> it's a 'vanilla' install of ubuntu, zesty er...,something.
[22:09] <nacc> hfgdb: i meant i'm not sure how to resolve it. and my question was basically, had you run `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade`
[22:09] <zzzed> on quite an old PC, but...is mostly working fune
[22:09] <nacc> zzzed: well, f1 does different things in different contexts, afacit
[22:09] <nacc> *afaict
[22:09] <zzzed> hfgdb: should I do those 2 commands now? in terminal thing, right?
[22:10] <sambi> yes
[22:10] <nacc> zzzed: no, i was talking to hfgdb, not hfgdb talking you.
[22:10] <nacc> zzzed: i mean, yes, you should be doing those things regularly, but if you're on a desktop, update-manager is doing that for you
[22:10] <zzzed> nacc: yeah I know f1 is kinda context-dependent but, I just don't like an error
[22:11] <zzzed> nacc OK will do them right now
[22:11] <hfgdb> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:11] <zzzed> it is, er... "doing stuff"
[22:12] <zzzed> some "using xxxx disk space, do you wish to continue", I said "yes"
[22:12] <zzzed> nacc: can I check if that auto thingy is turned on?
[22:12] <nacc> zzzed: what auto thingy?
[22:12] <zzzed> nacc ie "update-manager is doing that"
[22:12] <zzzed> can I see if that's running?
[22:12] <nacc> zzzed: do you get a GUI prompt periodically with something like "the following packages can be updated'?
[22:12] <zzzed> sorry, I am a bit new to this system
[22:12] <zzzed> nacc: no, never seen that
[22:13] <zzzed> have been using this for like a month, just
[22:13] <zzzed> was a plain install
[22:13] <zzzed> maybe I need to install the "update manager"; I'd appreciate help with that
[22:13] <zzzed> I know this is prob easy stuff. Sorry...noob
[22:13] <nacc> zzzed: i'm 99% sure it's installed by default
[22:14] <zzzed> I mean, sure, maybe it is; no idea
[22:14] <nacc> zzzed: if you are really new to ubuntu, i'd recommend you install 16.04 not 17.04
[22:14] <zzzed> not sure which I have
[22:14] <nacc> zzzed: as you are going to have to upgrade 6-9 months from now
[22:14] <nacc> zzzed: you said zesty, that's 17.04
[22:14] <zzzed> what's the command to get the version?
[22:15] <nacc> lsb_release -d
[22:15] <zzzed> BTW in one window, that 'update' thing is running;
[22:15] <zzzed> and, yep, doing...
[22:15] <zzzed> "lsb_release -d Description:	Ubuntu 17.04"
[22:15] <zzzed> what's the problems with me using 17 instead of 16?
[22:15] <nacc> zzzed: 17.04 not 16.04.
[22:16] <zzzed> I mean...I am 'techy'. Just, new to this system
[22:16] <nacc> zzzed: are you willing to upgrade every 6-9 months?
[22:16] <zzzed> yes, no worries
[22:16] <nacc> zzzed: non-LTS release are only supported for 9 months
[22:16] <zzzed> no prob
[22:16] <hfgdb> zzzed have you tried this: close the "update thing", open a terminal and run sudo apt update && sudo apt update
[22:16] <zzzed> I like playing around with stuff
[22:16] <zzzed> sec
[22:16] <nacc> ok, i need to get back to regular work, sorry, maybe someone else can help
[22:17] <hfgdb> sorry sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[22:17] <zzzed> er
[22:17] <zzzed> hfgdb: the command you said before? is 'doing stuff'. ie...
[22:17] <zzzed> "[23:09] <nacc> hfgdb: i meant i'm not sure how to resolve it. and my question was basically, had you run `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade`"
[22:17] <nacc> zzzed: that was *never* directed at you.
[22:17] <zzzed> ..and, it's finished
[22:17] <zzzed> oh sorry for any misunderstanding
[22:17] <zzzed> anyway
[22:18] <zzzed> I think it sorta 'updated'
[22:18] <sirru5h> hfgdb, so you upgraded and your network is running slow
[22:18] <hfgdb> yes
[22:18] <hfgdb> sirru5h yes :(
[22:18] <hfgdb> If I roll back everything is fine again
[22:18] <sirru5h> and you are connecting using eth or wifi?
[22:18] <hfgdb> eth
[22:19] <zzzed> sirru5h: can you explain how you think it is "slow", I mean... some sites you normally use take too long? or, downloading, or what?
[22:20] <sirru5h> ha ok
[22:20] <zzzed> oh, that's hfgdb
[22:20] <zzzed> I was confused about the name, sorry
[22:20] <zzzed> hfgdb: can you explain how you think it is "slow", I mean... some sites you normally use take too long? or, downloading, or what?
[22:21] <sirru5h> its okay zzzed
[22:21] <zzzed> I srsly need a better IRC client, one that highlights names in colours
[22:21] <zzzed> sirru5h: cool, sry, np
[22:21] <sirru5h> actually there is a thread on askubuntu regarding this very issue
[22:21] <hfgdb> Well, the download/upload speed droped internal and external
[22:21] <hfgdb> Where?
[22:21] <zzzed> sirru5h: q. I've seen like a 'rotating cube' desktop thing, to switch desktops. Can I do that on my system?
[22:22] <gredjok> i have a nikon d3300 camera and ubuntu does not recongize its format, but on an older computer format was recognized
[22:22] <gredjok> I forgot what I did for it to work
[22:22] <sirru5h> https://askubuntu.com/questions/905288/extremely-slow-connection-after-17-04-update ( hfgdb  give that a look although I believe that they fixed the issue )
[22:22] <gredjok> what do I need to do so ubuntu recognizes my nikond3300 card?
[22:23] <zzzed> hfgdb: try meter.net
[22:24] <sirru5h> zzzed, let me think I vaguely remember such a feature I havent used ubuntu in the past 7 years
[22:24] <hfgdb> Kind of hard to do without a GUI ;)
[22:24] <zzzed> sirru5h:  heh; what kind of thing do you use for desktops?
[22:25] <zzzed> gredjok: can you set  the camera for PTP?
[22:25] <zzzed> sirru5h: I mean, for switching between a few desktops. I don't mind which; the 'cube' thing kinda looked cool
[22:25] <sirru5h> zzzed, I'm very simple xfce as this computer is old
[22:26] <zzzed> sirru5h: fair enough
[22:26] <sirru5h> zzzed, i do remember that desktop feature let me go google about
[22:26] <zzzed> hfgdb: what NIC is it? built-in to the mb?
[22:27] <zzzed> M|SS|SS|PP|: heard a good joke about how to spell that, once
[22:27] <vacho> my ubuntu server is saying I am out of disk-space. It's an Amazon EC2 environment. https://paste.ofcode.org/Q78KZmGmsUYxYyr4NKuWJm
[22:27] <gredjok> found packages on the repo
[22:28] <gredjok> with what should I open a raw file (picure)?
[22:28] <gredjok> picture
[22:28] <vacho> can anyone suggest what I can clear up to free some space? I am only running a small 50mb web app on this server, so I wonder why I am out of disk-space.
[22:28] <sirru5h> okay zzzed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DesktopEffects
[22:28] <zzzed> gredjok: what is the 'extension' of it? .jpg, .gif, .png, what?
[22:28] <zzzed> sirru5h: ty, doing
[22:28] <gredjok> .nef zzzed
[22:28] <sirru5h> cool good luck zzzed
[22:29] <sirru5h> hfgdb, did you give that link a look ?
[22:29] <zzzed> gredjok: suggest you try http://geeqie.sourceforge.net/
[22:30] <hfgdb> Yes, it is a Ubuntu Server, not a Ubuntu Deskt.
[22:31] <hfgdb> It does not have a browser to perform the test
[22:31] <zzzed> hfgdb: ah, ok
[22:31] <sirru5h> ahh okay cli ..
[22:33] <jim87> hello! I'm trying to install the libreswan (not strongswan!) plugin for network manager. I've downloaded the sources and installed via checkinstall. After a reboot, the libreswan's option is still not visible... do you have any clue? https://github.com/NetworkManager/network-manager-libreswan
[22:34] <zzzed> hfgdb: sudo apt install speedtest-cli
[22:34] <zzzed> hfgdb: curl -s  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/master/speedtest.py | python -
[22:34] <zzzed> sirru5h: am still doing the cubey thing, in the meantime. Just trying to help others too
[22:35] <hfgdb> 390 mbit/s
[22:35] <timetrex> hello
[22:35] <zzzed> ohai
[22:35] <sirru5h> okay cool I'm taking a break from work/studying
[22:35] <zzzed> sirru5h: what u studying?
[22:36] <sirru5h> Oh I want to learn some assembly
[22:36] <zzzed> sirru5h: nice; I started on zx81; zilog processor. Nice and easy
[22:37] <timetrex> I'm running docker on my ubuntu server. the router doesn't support hairpinning dns to internal servers (sigh) and my basic question is simple, is it possible to use an internal dns server (I'm thinking bind9) to forward my internal traffic properly via the domain to the internal IP? I've been unable to get it working and just want to be sure that I'm not wasting my time.
[22:37] <timetrex> omg lol and inside docker is a bunch of web servers hosting various domains
[22:37] <zzzed> timetrex: save a lot of hassle and use an old PC as a firewall, to handle all that stuff. "Smoothwall" works quite well. (IMHO, YMMV)
[22:38] <zzzed> sirru5h: it says, "CCSM is an advanced tool. Use with caution."... yay. Here Be Dragons ;-)
[22:39] <timetrex> zzzed can you describe the topoloigy you're suggesting plz?
[22:39] <MiguelFuller> zzzed: an old pc? a desktop? a noisy machine and big when he can buy a small dedicated one that he can overwrite firmware and end up with a small quiet and cool alternative
[22:39] <timetrex> *topology
[22:39] <zzzed> timetrex: sure, sec
[22:40] <hfgdb> https://askubuntu.com/questions/905288/extremely-slow-connection-after-17-04-update does not resolve my issue
[22:40] <sirru5h> zzzed, I found I learned the most fixing my goof ups
[22:40] <zzzed> timetrex: I suggest you use an 'old PC' (spare) to handle all of your domain resolution; it is easier and reduces the load elsewhere;
[22:41] <sirru5h> hfgdb, I haven't forgotten about ya
[22:41] <zzzed> timetrex: there is a special installation of Ubuntu called "smoothwall" that does just that; https://www.smoothwall.com/
[22:41] <hfgdb> :)
[22:41] <zzzed> timetrex: basically, you throw that (distro; download CD/DVD; install. pretty basic) and it "handles DNS" and
[22:41] <timetrex> zzzed, could i just install it in a vm?
[22:42] <zzzed> timetrex: you can configure it to fwd ports to diff machines "inside" your external IP addy
[22:42] <zzzed> timetrex: you *could* but, I do not recommend that. Srsly, you only need a really old crappy computer, and it will simplify your life a lot
[22:42] <zzzed> 'coz it just "handles the internet" stuff;
[22:42] <timetrex> lol
[22:42] <timetrex> ok thanks
[22:42] <zzzed> you don't even need a screen on it;
[22:42] <timetrex> much help
[22:42] <zzzed> you can browse to it, and...
[22:43] <zzzed> it'll do caching, and firewalling, and everything
[22:43] <zzzed> alternative, you can buy a firewall box to do same
[22:43] <zzzed> but "software firewalls" are crap, so...
[22:43] <timetrex> thank you zzzed
[22:43] <zzzed> running it in a VM is, effectively, a 'software firewall'
[22:43] <zzzed> the nice part is, if you use a different (old) computer,
[22:44] <zzzed> you can forget all about "internet connection" stuff, and just connect to that addy (192.168.0.1 usually) for all your internet goodness,
[22:44] <zzzed> ...and let that old PC handle all the 'translation' crap
[22:44] <zzzed> it is free, BTW. I am not spamming
[22:45] <zzzed> (free for personal use, anyway. There is a commercial version)
[22:46] <zzzed> sirru5h: you still here? wanted to tell you a brief anecdote
[22:46] <sirru5h> I'm here bud searching about for hfgdb
[22:46] <zzzed> sirru5h: in about 1982, on my "ZX Spectrum" home computer, I first learned assembly programming;
[22:47] <sirru5h> so I can maybe lend some assistance to him as well
[22:47] <hfgdb> Thank you
[22:47] <zzzed> sirru5h: I wrote a program to move a "*" across the screen; I spent many hours trying to find out why it didn't seem to work
[22:47] <zzzed> sirru5h: eventually, I worked out, it was just going too fast to see, so I had to put in a long delay loop
[22:48] <zzzed> sirru5h: then...well....irony. I wanted to learn it so things went *fast* - and I had to slow it down
[22:48] <zzzed> end of anecdote
[22:48] <zzzed> did hfgdb post that speed-test I said? if so, I missed it
[22:49] <zzzed> doesn't look like she did
[22:51] <sirru5h> hfgdb, what does your /etc/systemd/resolved.conf look like?
[22:51] <vacho> can someone tell me what this is? and why it's taking so much space? /dev/xvda1      7.8G  6.1G  1.4G  83% /
[22:52] <sirru5h> zzzed, yeah I been really studying hard I kinda rediscovered my passion for computers lately. So I been reading 300 pages in one night, its like college days
[22:52] <hfgdb> everything is commented out
[22:53] <zzzed> sirru5h: for future reference; to do the 'cube' type things; first, in Ubuntu 'preferences' you 'enable workspaces' (checkbox)
[22:53] <zzzed> hfgdb: that's OK, that's normal
[22:54] <sirru5h> hmmm i thought maybe dnssec=on that'd cause that issue
[22:54] <hfgdb> good
[22:55] <zzzed> sirru5h: I have made some progress, er. i can 'zoom out' and see 4 desktops now
[22:55] <sirru5h> hmm and you did reboot after the update right?
[22:56] <sirru5h> ( upgrade actually)
[22:58] <sirru5h> zzzed, well done my machine here that I use everyday is literally running an external HD and no HDD in it
[23:00] <zzzed_> ooh, I crashed. Cool
[23:02] <sirru5h> hfgdb, everything which I am finding keeps pointing to resolved.conf
[23:03] <hfgdb> no problem, thank you :)
[23:04] <sirru5h> I am reading this over https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/resolved.conf.html
[23:04] <hfgdb> I will roll back to 16.04 and wait for the next LTS
[23:04] <sirru5h> I really hate not winning ..
[23:05] <sirru5h> You know for a production server stability really is the key
[23:05] <hfgdb> me too
[23:06] <hfgdb> it is stable (kubernetes == love), just slow
[23:08] <sirru5h> Yeah but there shouldn't be a slow down in network speeds like you know maybe you should put a ticket in
[23:08] <sirru5h> I know personally I'd like to know what the resolution is
[23:17] <The_count> Hello' does anyone know how to or know what the dpkg repair broken packages command is, in the menu in the Ubuntu recovery menu. I cannot get the network to connect unless I am at a ttya broken back I could just commanders for the recovery menu anything to
[23:18] <sirru5h> dpkg --configure -a
[23:19] <sirru5h> prolly put a sudo infront of that
[23:20] <dan_> good day
[23:20] <sirru5h> howdy Guest87780
[23:21] <Guest87780> Good day
[23:21] <The_count> That doesn't seem to show any problems like it does when I run the dpkg repair broken packages from the recovery menu
[23:23] <sirru5h> ha The_count I had an issue just like that recently mine said I was holding onto broken packages
[23:23] <sirru5h> is that what you get?
[23:24] <The_count> I don't think I am, the bro let is that I can't run the update through the menu because it won't connect to the network
[23:25] <jim87> hello! Is it possible to install the libreswan's network manager plugin? I've tried building it from source without success (I'm able to install it, but I don't see it in the manager)
[23:26] <Bashing-om> The_count: In recovery mode to enable networking also select "enable networking" in the recovery menu options .
[23:27] <sirru5h> The_count, ^^^ he got the right answer
[23:31] <sirru5h> jim87 networkmanager-strongswan?
[23:32] <jim87> sirru5h: strongswan supports only aggressive mode (vs main mode) when no group is specified (indeed you can't leave the group field empty)
[23:33] <jim87> that's why I need to configure libreswan. I can do it manually via /etc/ipsec.conf-secrets, but I'd really prefere to use a GUI instead
[23:33] <pablo__> hi guys
[23:33] <pablo__> how are you
[23:33] <pablo__> ??
[23:34] <sirru5h> ahh okay let me go hit up the google
[23:34] <pablo__> I am from chile
[23:35] <pablo__> so I need to prctise my english
[23:36] <wewe> this is it?
[23:37] <pablo__> is there anyone for helping me
[23:38] <pablo__> is there anyone using ubuntu
[23:38] <pablo__> I need a help
[23:39] <krytarik> Just ask the actual question then.
[23:39] <pablo__> so I need a help with my ubuntu
[23:40] <pablo__> when I look at videos
[23:40] <pablo__> they are slow
[23:40] <pablo__> how can I make it faster
[23:40] <pablo__> ??
[23:40] <pablo__> I have been installed codecs
[23:41] <pablo__> updated and upgraded my system
[23:41] <pablo__> who knows whats happening
[23:41] <capra_ibex> Pablo, this is ubuntu channel so why do you ask if we use ubuntu? Obviously. In my case for over 10 years. You need to tell what your hardware is and which ubuntu you have installed.
[23:42] <sirru5h> hmm jim87 finding it on debian repos and git...
[23:42] <pablo__> my system is ubuntu lts
[23:42] <pablo__> 16.04
[23:42] <pablo__> 4 gb ram
[23:43] <pablo__> sorry me if my english is not well
[23:43] <pablo__> I am doing what I can
[23:44] <pablo__> I hope you can undestand me
[23:44] <jim87> sirru5 I'll try with debian debs... Tried with sources, but no luck at all
[23:44] <croz> when i set my resolution on my laptop to 4k the fonts are literally like 1mm. how do i fix this?
[23:44] <jim87> sirru5h: btw there's no deb either
[23:47] <capra_ibex> pablo, my guess is that you need to check your system setup. I use Kubuntu so I can't tell where exactly is in gnome. In some applications you may change font size with Ctrl-+ to increase the size. To make it smaller you use Ctrl-<minus> not literally of course.
[23:48] <capra_ibex> you may also change the resolution of your monitor in section where monitors are setup.
[23:49] <sirru5h> hmm jim87 I didn't find it in ubuntu but debian does apparently have it;  https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreswan
[23:49] <sirru5h> its unstable not sure how you'd feel about that
[23:50] <jim87> sirru5h: that's what Ubuntu have too: the libreswan's ipsec. NetworkManager plugin is a separate package
[23:50] <janny> I am looking for somebody tooo looooove me
[23:54] <janny> who wants to see my ass
[23:54] <janny> ??
[23:55] <janny> if woul you get a picture of a big butt so tell me someting
[23:56] <sirru5h> mmmm jim87 wow and I'm sure ipsec,conf-secrets isnt fun to edit manually
[23:56] <jim87> sirru5h: it's not that I don't want, but I want to make it easy for the others
[23:56] <jim87> (and I'm not talking about Lost ahahah)
[23:57] <jim87> I find it strange at least though that debian/ubuntu don't consider libreswan, supporting only strongswan, when they're not interoperable