| nacc | Bashing-om: probably worth a ban at this point | 00:44 |
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| nacc | for janny | 00:44 |
| Bashing-om | Not sure of there is not a serious language barrier here also . Thin ice either way . | 00:46 |
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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:13 |
| lordievader[m] | Good morning | 05:10 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader[m] kostkon Bashing-om | 05:13 |
| lotuspsychje | morning tea here, rainy day | 05:14 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: \o .. makes for a good irc day :) | 05:18 |
| lotuspsychje | not here Bashing-om working day : ( | 05:19 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Some ome has to pay up for the taxes :) | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 05:27 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: I tell the truth - for some years I did subsistence living - I was glad to pay taxes when I was able ! | 05:33 |
| lotuspsychje | i bet Bashing-om :p | 05:39 |
| lordievader[m] | Hey lotuspsychje | 05:40 |
| ducasse | morning all | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse | 06:06 |
| lordievader[m] | Hey ducasse | 06:14 |
| lordievader[m] | How are you doing, ducasse ? | 06:14 |
| ducasse | good thanks, and yourself? | 06:16 |
| lordievader[m] | Doing good here :) | 06:21 |
| ducasse | very quiet this morning, good opportunity to catch up on some news :) | 06:22 |
| lordievader[m] | Indeed. | 06:48 |
| immu | hi all | 09:44 |
| lordievader[m] | Hey immu | 10:30 |
| oerheks | grinn https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/canonical-reboots-convergence-introduces-the-no-desktop-environment/ | 10:36 |
| lordievader[m] | sudosatirical is quite funny. | 10:41 |
| lordievader[m] | https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/man-loses-will-to-live-during-gentoo-install/ | 10:41 |
| lordievader[m] | https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/kde-user-in-awe-experiences-stability-first-time/ | 10:41 |
| oerheks | indeed, 1st time i noticed, thanks to reddit | 10:41 |
| oerheks | Ubuntu fan wakes up from two year coma ... | 10:42 |
| oerheks | Hilarious | 10:42 |
| lordievader[m] | Yeah, I learned of the site too via reddit (/r/linux). | 11:02 |
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| immu | hey lordievader[m] | 11:52 |
| lordievader[m] | How are you doing? | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:04 |
| immu | hey BluesKaj | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | hi immu | 12:11 |
| lordievader[m] | Het BluesKaj | 12:16 |
| lordievader[m] | How are you doing? | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | hi lordievader[m], ok here, and you ? | 12:27 |
| lordievader[m] | Doing good here too :) | 12:32 |
| oerheks | Windows 10 S won't run Linux, says Microsoft \0/ best news today | 13:17 |
| DArqueBishop | Windows 10 S won't run a lot of stuff, so the Linux subsystems aren't a surprise. | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | W10 is hopeless | 13:33 |
| KristijanZic | Need assistance. I've installed the light-themes_16.10+17.10.20170515.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb from omgubuntu.co.uk to my 17.04 and the theme got broken because some apps in ubuntu use toolbar instead of headerbar. When I want to delete the light-themes package it also wants to delete the ubuntu-artwork and ubuntu-desktop packages. What should I do? If I enable CSD I'll loose HUD on the affected apps but that fixes the theming | 15:15 |
| KristijanZic | because the app uses header bar then :/ | 15:15 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: install the one for your release | 15:28 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: `apt policy light-themes` shoudl show you possible version numbers to use | 15:28 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: `sudo apt install light-themes=<version>` | 15:28 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: and next time, don't do such things without knowing how to undo them (you had to install the themes as root, you should know how to undo it) | 15:29 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: note also, /topic specifies your request should be in #ubuntu | 15:29 |
| immu | hi all | 15:34 |
| immu | ducasse: hi lordievader[m] | 15:37 |
| KristijanZic | nacc: Thank you! It was on #ubuntu but got left in history. I thought I knew how, I was wrong. Why? I'm exploring my system (in somewhat safe manner), Isn't that the whole point? And I have you guys here for occasional assistance and you have me unlike if I was running windows. | 15:50 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: ah ok | 15:51 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: well, as root, if you do something, it often cannot be undone. | 15:51 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: so my point is, know what you're doing. IMO, root isn't for exploring. | 15:52 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: or be willing to reinstall your system | 15:52 |
| KristijanZic | nacc: That's why I'm in the vm. I didn't know about apt policy. | 15:52 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: you never said VM :) | 15:52 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: then you are fine :) | 15:53 |
| KristijanZic | nacc: you would have told me to reinstall it :P | 15:53 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: yeah, it's a VM, who cares? :) | 15:53 |
| nacc | KristijanZic: i would have told you to restore from a backup | 15:53 |
| KristijanZic | I wouldn't learn anything then, that's the point also. | 15:54 |
| nacc | you would learn not to do experimental things without backups. | 15:54 |
| nacc | I stand by my earlier point, if you're root, you should know what you're doing and how to undo it. | 15:54 |
| nacc | Or be willing to accept the consequences of doing things as root | 15:54 |
| nacc | Too many users in #ubuntu don't bother doing that | 15:55 |
| KristijanZic | nacc: I agree 100% with you on that | 15:55 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 17:24 |
| MentallyRetired | hiya | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | hi MentallyRetired first join on discuss? | 17:35 |
| MentallyRetired | yup yup | 17:37 |
| lotuspsychje | MentallyRetired: welcome here | 17:37 |
| MentallyRetired | recently switched back to windows from mac and not really satisfied, plus tired of blue screens | 17:37 |
| MentallyRetired | and I've dabbled with ubuntu before, but now seriously considering a switch to it for my primary desktop | 17:38 |
| MentallyRetired | plus it runs rocket league, so w00t | 17:38 |
| lotuspsychje | MentallyRetired: wich ubuntu version did you choose? | 17:39 |
| lotuspsychje | !info plank | 17:40 |
| ubot5 | plank (source: plank): Elegant, simple, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.1-1 (xenial), package size 81 kB, installed size 378 kB | 17:40 |
| MentallyRetired | 16.04? what do youmean | 17:42 |
| MentallyRetired | 16.04 with unity | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah thats what i was after :p | 17:42 |
| MentallyRetired | I installed cinnamon but not a fan of the UI. unity is what really got me seriously thinking about linux for my daily driver | 17:42 |
| MentallyRetired | nice and polished UI is a must for design snobs like me :) | 17:43 |
| xangua | Unity is no more | 17:43 |
| lotuspsychje | MentallyRetired: 18.04 will have back gnome as default | 17:43 |
| MentallyRetired | I know :( | 17:43 |
| MentallyRetired | it makes sense | 17:43 |
| MentallyRetired | gnome doesnt look too bad though | 17:43 |
| xangua | At least until someone brings a usable fork, but it will be unity 8, not 7 | 17:44 |
| MentallyRetired | I think thats my biggest issue with OSS | 17:44 |
| MentallyRetired | sooo much fragmentation | 17:44 |
| MentallyRetired | people aren't willing to accept something they dont 100% agree with, it seems | 17:44 |
| lotuspsychje | thats why canonical wants opinions now | 17:45 |
| lotuspsychje | take the vote also MentallyRetired | 17:45 |
| MentallyRetired | the vote? | 17:45 |
| xangua | Where can I vote? Lost the page | 17:45 |
| xangua | I won't be using gnome shell tho | 17:45 |
| lotuspsychje | https://goo.gl/forms/y33GYsiEe6BH6m3t1 | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | xangua: what will you change to mate? | 17:46 |
| xangua | To KDE probably | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | i feel like back in the days of linux now, choosing KDE or GNOME ate setup hehe | 17:47 |
| MentallyRetired | haha | 17:48 |
| MentallyRetired | thats the linux I'm more familiar with | 17:48 |
| MentallyRetired | I could get it installed but couldnt do crap from there | 17:48 |
| MentallyRetired | good ol fedora | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | redhat back in the days | 17:48 |
| MentallyRetired | pardon my ignorance, but what is KDE neon? | 17:59 |
| MentallyRetired | KDE just sits on top of a linux distro, right? | 17:59 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: can you explain ^ | 18:01 |
| MentallyRetired | KDE is the 'windows' to ubuntu's msdos? | 18:01 |
| MentallyRetired | lol | 18:01 |
| MentallyRetired | kde, gnome, unity are all window UI systems, I know that much | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | newest snaps guys: https://uappexplorer.com/apps?type=snappy&page=1 | 18:02 |
| MentallyRetired | I've had gnome on fedora, ubuntu etc | 18:02 |
| MentallyRetired | but what the heck is KDE neon? just a bunch of software apps? or is it its own OS | 18:02 |
| MentallyRetired | ok yeah, kde neon runs on plasma | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | or perhaps lordievader can explain | 18:05 |
| baizon | MentallyRetired: kde neon is kde + ubuntu lts | 18:06 |
| ducasse | MentallyRetired: kde neon is a kind of 'reference implementation' of kde on top of an ubuntu-based os | 18:06 |
| MentallyRetired | there we go, ok cool | 18:06 |
| MentallyRetired | kde's website doesnt really mention ubuntu | 18:07 |
| MentallyRetired | I found them listing canonical as a partner or supporter or something | 18:07 |
| BluesKaj | MentallyRetired, https://neon.kde.org/download | 18:21 |
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