[00:00] <obfuste> Hello all, can I upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04 somehow in place or do I have to do a clean install?
[00:01] <obfuste> Google shows lots of 16.10 to 17.04 etc but not 16.04 to 17.04
[00:01] <obfuste> ive had endless wireless issues on 16.04 so want to see if later editions help
[00:03] <krytarik> !upgradeofflts | obfuste
[00:03] <obfuste> so this would take me from 16.04 to 16.10 right?
[00:04] <janny> who wnats to play with me
[00:04] <janny> ??
[00:04] <krytarik> janny: Care to stop this?
[00:04] <sirru5h> jim87,  I know how it is when co-workers have to touch config files :S
[00:04] <jim87> ahahah yes
[00:04] <jim87> now I'm going to sleep
[00:05] <jim87> 1 entire day spent on this freaking bastion configuration
[00:05] <jim87> bye!
[00:05] <krytarik> obfuste: And yes - and then you can upgrade further to 17.04
[00:05] <speleo> Hey everyone. Doing an apt-get upgrade seemed to kill networking, and I have no clue what is up.
[00:06] <janny> ok but I am asking something about my linux and no one help me
[00:06] <speleo> /networking/interfaces is default
[00:06] <obfuste> do you know how long it should take for each jump? I am on a 1mbps internet....is it a heavy download?
[00:09] <speleo> I'm on Ubuntu server 15.04
[00:11] <Bashing-om> speleo: 15.04 ??
[00:11] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | speleo
[00:22] <nacc> speleo: you should upgrade immediately
[00:25] <threee> Anyone here own a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 5th gen?
[00:25] <janny> everyone
[00:26] <janny> anyone has used mess
[00:26] <janny> or mame
[00:26] <janny> ??
[00:26] <janny> I dont know how to configure it
[00:28] <coolguy> Hello, I am new to this chat
[00:28] <janny> I need someone to help me
[00:28] <coolguy> New to IRC also
[00:28] <coolguy> go ahead janny
[00:29] <janny> what is that go ahead?
[00:29] <janny> coolguy
[00:29] <coolguy> go ahead and type your issue you are having.
[00:30] <_28Kb> she uses mess with her head :)
[00:30] <janny> why you say that 28kb
[00:30] <coolguy> isn't IRC like very old technology
[00:30] <janny> ??
[00:31] <_28Kb> tell him, he may help you
[00:31] <coolguy> that pre-dates the internet and it's still up and running.
[00:31] <TestBr> Please, how can i execute a java .jar file , that is placed on a windows network ?  smb://myIP/folder/ i can see it. but i cannot execute (i can't set as executable)
[00:31] <janny> coolguy
[00:31] <janny> do you know mess
[00:31] <janny> ??
[00:31] <coolguy> yes janny
[00:32] <_28Kb> there you go :)
[00:32] <coolguy> do I know mess I'm sorry I do not know.
[00:32] <janny> I need to know how to configure it
[00:32] <janny> cause I want to play
[00:32] <janny> games
[00:32] <janny> and I dont know how use it
[00:33] <coolguy> janny where are you from?
[00:33] <janny> I am from chile
[00:33] <coolguy> oh cool
[00:34] <janny> but I have been in mexico last yea
[00:34] <janny> year
[00:34] <janny> yes from chile
[00:34] <janny> can we talk in private
[00:34] <janny> coolguy
[00:34] <coolguy> sure
[00:37] <coolguy> exit
[00:37] <coolguy> ?
[00:39] <janny> 28 kb
[00:39] <janny> where are you?
[00:39] <_28Kb> here
[00:39] <janny> ok
[00:39] <_28Kb> i can't help you with your mess
[00:40] <janny> emulator
[00:40] <janny> ?
[00:40] <janny> I am talking about emulator not fuck
[00:40] <janny> jajaj
[00:40] <_28Kb> one i got is dosbox
[00:40] <janny> can you help me
[00:40] <janny> ?
[00:40] <_28Kb> i told you, silly
[00:41] <janny> ok but I need to emulate neogeo games
[00:41] <janny> or mame
[00:41] <janny> I installed
[00:41] <janny> mame
[00:41] <Bashing-om> !language | janny
[00:42] <janny> but I dont know how to use it
[00:42] <janny> anywhere I go I am always sensores
[00:42] <janny> sensored
[00:43] <_28Kb> censored*
[00:43] <janny> ok censored
[00:44] <rodrigot23> does anybody know why ubuntu 16.04 runs so hot?
[00:44] <janny> you seems like my mom
[00:44] <janny> yes I am hot
[00:44] <janny> and I know ubuntu 16.04
[00:44] <janny> lts
[00:45] <janny> 28kb you seems like my mom saying me how to talk
[00:45] <janny> or writte
[00:47] <janny> rodrigot23
[00:47] <janny> what do you mean
[00:47] <Bashing-om> janny: You are encouraged to heed the channel guide lines .
[00:48] <janny> bashing on
[00:48] <janny> can you talk me clearest
[00:48] <janny> I am not good in english language
[00:48] <wedgie> janny: there is also a spanish channel, if that helps
[00:48] <wedgie> !es
[00:49] <janny> but I need to practise my english
[00:49] <janny> may I be so rough
[00:50] <wedgie> janny: then start with saying what you are trying to do. And also mention any errors you get when trying to do it
[00:50] <homa_> i have a question about genymotion
[00:52] <janny> wedgie so what are you thinking that I am trying to do
[00:52] <janny> ??
[00:52] <wedgie> janny: I don't know. That is why i asked.
[00:53] <janny> I need to know how to configure the damned mess emulator
[00:53] <janny> and I need some help
[00:53] <janny> I am getting angry
[00:53] <janny> now
[00:54] <_28Kb> now you are mess, hot and angry :)
[00:57] <janny> yes I am mess hot and angryyyyyyyyyyyyy
[00:57] <janny> 28kb
[00:57] <janny> and I am like that for you
[00:58] <janny> so let me tell you
[00:58] <janny> something
[00:58] <janny> I love you
[00:58] <janny> jajajajaj
[00:58] <_28Kb> :)
[01:06] <janny> 28kb
[01:06] <janny> where are you
[01:06] <janny> ??
[01:06] <janny> I need you here
[01:06] <DalekSec> janny: This is not the channel to play around in, this is for technical support only.
[01:07] <janny> daleksec
[01:07] <janny> I  am not playing we are talking in codes
[01:09] <DalekSec> jemark: That's what we call "playing", don't do it here.
[01:10] <DalekSec> Erm, that was for janny.
[01:10] <DalekSec> Sorry, jemark.
[01:13] <glickity> salutations folks!
[01:13] <glickity> i have a question...
[01:14] <musician_pro> :|
[01:14] <glickity> is there an options command in linux?
[01:14] <glickity> to load modules on the fly?
[01:14] <musician_pro> :|
[01:14] <glickity> is it installed by default in the usb live edition
[01:16] <glickity> i have a problem
[01:16] <glickity> im testing ubuntu on a x200
[01:16] <glickity> my sound works through earphones but not through the pc speakers
[01:16] <glickity> any idea?
[01:17] <glickity> been looking on google but not much luck
[01:17] <Bashing-om> !sound | glickity
[01:18] <janny> janny is playing around
[01:19] <glickity> hey if i add a line to my modprobe config file, how to i get it to load the new configs and new modules i add in the file?
[01:21] <_28Kb> sounds to me like you should power up your speakers or increase the volume
[01:24] <sirru5h> hmmm insmod would allow you to load it
[01:26] <sirru5h> glickity, did ya get that sound working?
[01:26] <glickity> nah sirru5h :(
[01:27] <sirru5h> hmmm the fact that it works via headphones tells you right there that the sound card is working
[01:28] <sirru5h> is this a desktop or laptop?
[01:28] <glickity> laptop x200
[01:28] <_28Kb> you are talking about different jacks, right?
[01:29] <_28Kb> i managed to have both speakers and headphones playing using gnome-alsa-mixer
[01:29] <glickity> hmm
[01:29] <glickity> my sound works via headphones but not speakers
[01:30] <sirru5h> you checked that you don't have it muted or something right
[01:30] <croz> Anyone here have a 4K display and running Ubuntu on same box?
[01:30] <sirru5h> because when I'm studying I use headphones and mute the speakers
[01:31] <croz> I can't leave my screen at 4K because everything looks small as hell. I try to do the scaling thing in the display setting page and hexchat text is on top of each other
[01:31] <glickity> yes sirru5h
[01:31] <sirru5h> hmm now thats strange
[01:32] <glickity> ill be bqck, running off a usb stick going to install to hardd rive
[01:32] <obfuste> when using tune2fs to reclaim the held back 5% on an ext4 drive does it need to be unlocked if it's a LUKS encrypted drive?
[01:33] <obfuste> I've seen tutorials saying use the /sdb etc label but others say unlock it and use the /devmapper/luks....." label
[01:35] <arch-nemesis> reclaim 5%? You mean the 5% filesystem reserve?
[01:36] <arch-nemesis> obfuste: Storage is in layers. tune2fs is a filesystem tool for ext family of filesystems
[01:37] <obfuste> ok...and?
[01:37] <obfuste> i dont know if I can run it on the drive locked to reclaim that reserve or if I need to unlock it and run the command with the unlocked partition
[01:37] <arch-nemesis> so you won't have access to the filesystem unless you unlock the luks device, because the filesystem is encrypted in the luks device
[01:37] <obfuste> ok thanks
[01:38] <arch-nemesis> but I would not reduce it to zero if it's the root volume.
[01:38] <confused_coder> Having trouble using the efimanager command to fix my Ubuntu single boot system. Can someone take a look? Would really appreciate it. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361522
[01:38] <obfuste> its an external hard drive...2tb..and 130gb was held back so wanted to reclaim that
[01:38] <arch-nemesis> The reserved space is so the root user can still log in and fix stuff in case the disk becomes full
[01:38] <arch-nemesis> yeah, if it's an external drive, go for it.
[01:38] <obfuste> is it safe to reclaim it for just a storage drive? to set it to 0%?
[01:39] <obfuste> this post worries me: https://www.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2009-January/msg00026.html
[01:39] <arch-nemesis> setting the reserve blocks is pretty safe. It happens instantly. No changes to the actual data
[01:40] <obfuste> can you take a look at that link and give me your opinion? supposedly that is the ext4 creator
[01:40] <arch-nemesis> you can set it to 0%, look at df -h. Set it to 20%, look at df -h. It's more like a policy that doesn't let normal users fill up the disk
[01:40] <arch-nemesis> Yeah, filesystems don't run well when they are very full
[01:41] <obfuste> sorry I am a real noob..in case its a dumb question...but does his comment apply to external drives?
[01:41] <obfuste> it seems like its about system drives
[01:42] <arch-nemesis> well fragmentation depends really on actual usage. So if this is your external drive where you just like store a bunch of moviies or something, you're good
[01:42] <arch-nemesis> fragmentation can cause performance issues
[01:43] <obfuste> even if that drive gets full right? I am just trying to understand if I need to leave some reserve even in this case..or if thats only for system drives
[01:43] <obfuste> and yeah its media and documents etc....
[01:43] <obfuste> feeling overwhelmed by everything I try to do with linux
[01:44] <arch-nemesis> My opinion, setting to 0 is perfectly fine, especially on a giant external drive.
[01:44] <obfuste> like I need to know the entirity of computer science just to use it
[01:44] <obfuste> ok thanks for your patience
[01:44] <arch-nemesis> haha I know how you feel :) No  problem.
[01:49] <u-ou> how do i disable the windows key from opening unity
[01:49] <arch-nemesis> obfuste: So if you want to know what I mean about the layers, a typical drive will have "partitions" on it, then normally a filesystem directly on the partition.
[01:49] <obfuste> arch-nemesis: after doing this the drive has a directory called "lost+found" in it with a small x in bottom corner of icon...otherwise drive is empty
[01:50] <obfuste> what is this and can I delete it?
[01:50] <sirru5h> well I'll cya all its lab time for me
[01:50] <arch-nemesis> you can actually see the partitions with a hex editor, like 'od' if you want.
[01:50] <arch-nemesis> obfuste: for ext3 or ext4 that's as empty as you're going to get.
[01:52] <arch-nemesis> obfuste: if you wrote a bunch of zeros to the disk, and then used 'od' to look at /dev/sdb (or whatever your disk is) you would see those zeros
[01:52] <arch-nemesis> then if you use parted/fdisk to add a partition, you could od the disk and you could see the partition header
[01:52] <obfuste> i deleted that lost+found hidden directory from another drive like this...do I need to restore it somehow?
[01:52] <arch-nemesis> add a filesystem and you can see the filesystem header inside the partition.
[01:53] <arch-nemesis> You don't really need it, it will come back if it's needed. It's supposed to be if a file becomes unlinked somehow, it will give it a random name and will put it there.
[01:54] <obfuste> ok google worried me as people said it was required...shouldnt mess with stuff I guess
[01:54] <arch-nemesis> if you're learning, then you should mess with stuff :P
[01:55] <obfuste> well right now I am backing up stuff and encrypting so cant afford to mess up
[01:56] <obfuste> once I get a second laptop I will make it a lab computer and learn more
[01:56] <obfuste> this one is too old and slow for even VM use really
[01:56] <obfuste> so cant afford to screw up only system
[02:01] <arch-nemesis> Well if you do mess something up and lose your records, I have used photorec a few times and it seems like it works well most of the time :)
[02:06] <bray90820> How would I run a bash script with a double click
[02:06] <obfuste> arch-nemesis: I am trying to run fsck on this drive and keep getting errors like "drive is in use" or "cannot rad superblock"
[02:07] <obfuste> How do I run it on a luks drive? its /dev/sdd when locked
[02:07] <obfuste> i want to see if its ok and if that lost+found is recreated like search says happens when you run fsck
[02:08] <obfuste> but cant do it...tried unmounting, mounting locked, mounting unlocked
[02:12] <obfuste> so i ran fsck on the drive and it did not recreate the hidden lost+found directory....some sites say it can cause you trouble later if you deleted it but I cant find hwo to put it back
[02:12] <obfuste> one said running fsck would do it but did not
[02:42] <admin01> hey
[02:43] <admin01> help
[02:45] <krytarik> admin01: Just ask.
[02:46] <admin01> thank you krytarik, is there any way to install low version of firefox in ubuntu arm processor?
[02:47] <BillGHero> I am looking for some help with using ecryptfs to share a encrypted folder with other users on my local machine, could you advise me, or recommend another channel/server, please?
[02:50] <krytarik> admin01: What part of that is exactly your problem?
[02:53] <BillGHero> I think I am having an issue selecting the right method for my needs from those I can find.
[02:54] <admin01> need an old version of firefox " version 2.0" for raspberry pi.
[02:54] <BillGHero> The most likely looking method specifies to list the key signature in both the fstab file and the mount command, but listing the signature in the un-encrypted fstab seems unwise?
[02:57] <j03lSnooP> Hello, anyone knows to remove a hotspot that i created but now laptop connects to it after login and i have to disconnect it every time
[02:59] <admin01> j03lSnoop: check the list of your wifi connections, choose the hotspot you want to delete, under options  click forget.
[03:02] <j03lSnooP> admin01: thats part of the issue, i dont see it on the list
[03:03] <j03lSnooP> i only see it under the hotspot option
[03:03] <j03lSnooP> and there is no option to delete, only to connect
[03:03] <admin01> what platform are you using
[03:04] <admin01> will be back..
[03:05] <j03lSnooP> elementary
[03:15] <ArturVitor> join nikhain
[03:17] <nramjieawan> well helllloooo internet
[03:18] <ArturVitor> hii
[03:31] <Hilikus> hello
[03:31] <Hilikus> hello??
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Hilikus: ubuntu support ??
[03:33] <Hilikus> yes, sorry. it's very quiet and im using a new irc client so i thought it wasn't working
[03:33] <janny> hello everybody
[03:34] <daniel13> Hey :)
[03:34] <janny> I just know how to configure mame and mess
[03:35] <janny> no one wanted to help me
[03:36] <BillGHero> anyone here who can advise on ecryptfs on ubuntu gnome 16.04.2?
[03:36] <Hilikus> can i remove the "click" package? i understand it's for phones and using systemd-analyze i see click-system-hooks is taking a long time
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !info mame xenial | janny
[03:37] <janny> yes mame the emulator
[03:37] <janny> there was to configure through the terminal
[03:40] <janny> I can play the games now
[03:41] <homa_> hi
[03:41] <Bashing-om> janny: " Started  in  1997
[03:41] <homa_> when i suspend my computer , internet connection losed
[03:42] <janny> old games are the best
[03:42] <janny> even when I am hot
[03:42] <Bashing-om> " Gotten pretty sophisticated and complex, huh ?
[03:42] <janny> to play
[03:43] <janny> snowbross great game
[03:44] <janny> bashing have you ever played those games
[03:59] <tfitts> I'm trying to figure out how to pipe a pdf to a printer.  If I pipe the data to lp I get no printout and it says the document size is 0KB.  If I send the data to a file and do lp -d P2015 filename.pdf it works.  if I try using lpr I get P2015 unknown printer even though lpstat -p -d gives me printer P2015 is idle.  enabled since Fri 19 May 2017 03:45:12 UTC
[03:59] <tfitts> Anyone have any ideas how i can get the data to the printer hopefully without leaving a file behind?
[04:05] <arch-nemesis> tfitts: I believe you have to do lpr -P (printerid) --stdin
[04:05] <minedu> hola gente
[04:05] <minedu> buenas noches
[04:05] <cfhowlett> !es | mindfart
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !es | minedu
[04:06] <arch-nemesis> mindfart, huh.
[04:11] <tfitts> hmmm... Any way I pipe it it comes up with 0K and doesn't print
[04:11] <tfitts> is it possible to pipe it to a file and in the same command call lpr with that filename as an argument?
[04:12] <arch-nemesis> a fifo
[04:12] <tfitts> The data is received through mosquitto_sub so I just need it to run the whole command whenever it get a message
[04:13] <arch-nemesis> mkfifo blah; some_program > blah & ; lp blah
[04:16] <tfitts> does mkfifo run in the background?  there is a client running that receives data at irregular intervals so I need to either get the piping work or save it to a file and send the filename to the lp command each time data is received
[04:16] <krytarik> tfitts: Did you try "-" as the file name for "lp" yet?
[04:17] <cyberpopo_> what is trimming in the context of ddrescue?
[04:18] <tfitts> krytarik: that doesn't work either
[04:19] <tfitts> I wouldn't think it is the data being piped.  If I send the data to > file.pdf and then run lp file.pdf it works.  Just need to combine those steps or ideally take out the step that creates the file
[04:20] <arch-nemesis> just wrap what I put in parentheces. mkfifo doesn't have to go to the background becasue it doesn't steal stdin.
[04:20] <fermulator> hey all; I just did a "dist-upgrade" and it pulled in some linux-image generic packages; now dpkg is failing due to some cyclic dependency known issue? new? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24602910/
[04:21] <fermulator> dpkg: error processing package linux-generic (--configure):
[04:21] <tfitts> the docs say by default if there is no filename it will read from stdin so it's reading it but I guess there is an issue with it
[04:21] <arch-nemesis> but it's still a poor choice because you have to clean up the fifo file, and you have to name it differently if you have two prints going on at once.
[04:21] <arch-nemesis> Oh!
[04:21] <arch-nemesis> I bet I know why it doesn't like stdin for you
[04:22] <arch-nemesis> I bet it's because it's a pdf not a postscript file
[04:24] <arch-nemesis> Just curious, does it print plain text or .ps files when you pipe it from stdin?
[04:24] <tfitts> I'll give it a shot.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> fermulator: " WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab " . See why the system is unhappy with that file . " error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/ata-KINGSTON_SH103S3120G_50026B774401F27F'" .
[04:26] <cyberpolice> what is trimming and scraping in ddrescue means
[04:26] <tfitts> Yeah, plain text works fine.
[04:28] <AllTuna> Hey
[04:28] <AllTuna> I'm having some trouble starting the MySQL service, was looking for a bit of assistance
[04:29] <arch-nemesis> ha. That must be it. In that case, then you can use imagemagick 'convert' command to convert pdf to ps, and I bet you can pipe that to lp
[04:29] <arch-nemesis> AllTuna: What seems to be the trouble?
[04:30] <AllTuna> I've got 16.04 running, and its been working fine for a while, recently I think someone may have been attempting to hack into it, and my MySQL service is now off, and I cannot get it to start again
[04:31] <arch-nemesis> Okay. What makes you think someone attempted to hack it?
[04:32] <AllTuna> Inside the log there are many login attempts, and I saw somewhere earlier it said that login attempts had been exceeded
[04:32] <AllTuna> In any case, when I try start the service, I get the message 'Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.'
[04:33] <AllTuna> this is the tail of the journalctl - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fca642a259e09e6e2db4a85a7b623d00
[04:33] <tfitts> Ok, I'll see what I can do. Thanks for your help.
[04:33] <cfhowlett> session opened for user by ROOT?
[04:34] <AllTuna> I had to sudo to start the service
[04:34] <AllTuna> I assumed that's what it meant
[04:35] <dude> hi , I am trying to execute a script (3-4 lines) on boot by including the the script in /etc/rc3.d/S64filename (my systems runlevel is 3) . only if there is syntax error in script it is displayed . otherwise script is not executed . why is that ?
[04:35] <arch-nemesis> To be honest, I don't have much knowledge when it comes to apparmor
[04:35] <AllTuna> I'm just a beginner admin here, heh, way out of my league with issues like this
[04:36] <arch-nemesis> It looks like apparmor is blocking it, so you can put it into complain mode
[04:37] <arch-nemesis> aa-logprof will show you app armor info
[04:37] <cyberpolice> there is no package for ddrescue? what is gddrescue?? i dont understand this:
[04:37] <cyberpolice> Please note that this is the GNU ddrescue version providing the ddrescue executable. The package is named gddrescue because the ddrescue version of Kurt Garloff used to have the ddrescue package name already.
[04:38] <one808> helo?
[04:38] <one808> everyone ?
[04:39] <arch-nemesis> AllTuna, can you show aa-logprof? (edit out anything confidential)
[04:39] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support here one808.  ask your question.
[04:39] <cyberpolice> cfhowlett: are you paid for this support or volunteering
[04:39] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, sure, one sec I gotta install it
[04:39] <one808> good jobs！
[04:39] <cfhowlett> this channel is completely volunteer, cyberpolice
[04:39] <one808> do you can speak chinese?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !cn | one808
[04:40] <one808> 什么鬼
[04:41] <cyberpolice> cfhowlett: impressive because theres so many users in the channel. i wonder about the proportion of helpers vs help-needers
[04:41] <glachas> How to install visualsfm on ubuntu 16.04?
[04:43] <cfhowlett> glachas, http://ccwu.me/vsfm/install.html
[04:43] <glachas> I tried not working
[04:44] <glachas> source files has been removed, cfhowlett
[04:44] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, oohhh gooddd. I ran the command and tried to copy the result, but it must have used that as a command and went through the entire process, I don't know what I did. This is the result.. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d597cd17e28c85c406b77676b080ffbd
[04:45] <cfhowlett> glachas, then you need to contact the program publisher for assistance
[04:45] <klf> Anyone here use Termite?
[04:47] <glachas> I shot a mail but no response yet. cfhowlet
[04:47] <arch-nemesis> well.... maybe you allowed those in the apparmor profile.
[04:48] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, I don't even know what they are man.
[04:48] <klf> Does anyone know if Termite == Termi?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> glachas, Mr. Wu created it.  His responsibility to maintain it.  Not an ubuntu issue, not supported here.  Perhaps time to consider a less obscure alternative?
[04:49] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, in any case, lets say I forget whatever I did, how would I get that log you wanted
[04:51] <arch-nemesis> AllTuna: AppArmor is a "Manditory Access Control". I'm not an expert in it, but basically you have a central place where profiles are that allow you access to files, etc.
[04:51] <arch-nemesis> for some reason AppArmor is denying mysqld from starting. Did you change the mysql configuration at any time? like the datadir, for example?
[04:52] <AllTuna> I've changed the bind-address in the conf file
[04:52] <AllTuna> and I've added a few users, thats all
[04:52] <arch-nemesis> oh, so you changed the bind port?
[04:54] <AllTuna> I've just uncommented and commented the line
[04:54] <AllTuna> to allow for remote connection
[04:54] <arch-nemesis> The idea behind manditory access control is that if a hacker can convince an applicaiton to misbehave, like read a file it's not supposed to, then apparmor should stop it.
[04:55] <arch-nemesis> so I would say, set the profile to complain with aa-complain, and watch the logs to see what it complains about.
[04:56] <arch-nemesis> here's something for you that might be worth reading: https://blogs.oracle.com/jsmyth/apparmor-and-mysql
[04:59] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, it looks like it's actually changing the security settings
[04:59] <AllTuna> I don't want to change anything
[05:02] <AllTuna> arch-nemesis, if I set it to complain mode, MySQL still fails to start, however the DENIEDs turn into ALLOWD
[05:07] <fermulator> Bashing-om ; the canonical path issue is due to zfs on linux ;
[05:08] <fermulator> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/grub/issues/5
[05:11] <fermulator> yep that did it
[05:11] <fermulator> ugh; forgot about that hack that's needed
[05:11] <fermulator> thanks
[05:12] <Bashing-om> fermulator: Glad you fingered it out as I have no zfs experience :)
[05:16] <BlakBeerd> okay ive installed a program from the repository... now i need to choose that program to open certain file tyepes with firefox. how do i figure out where it's installed? i cant search
[05:18] <gry> BlakBeerd: try '/usr/bin/<program name here>' or failing that, type 'which <program name here>' in your terminal
[05:19] <cfhowlett> BlakBeerd, or in firefox>preferences>applications           you can set the contest type + action
[05:26] <BlakBeerd> thx gry, it was in /usr/bin/
[05:27] <gry> no worries
[05:35] <dude> i want to run a script every time system boots up . what to do ?
[05:36] <hateball> dude: use crontab @reboot, or enable /etc/rc.local
[05:37] <dude> can i insert my script in any of the existing script file which runs every time the system boots
[05:42] <smokeyj> dude,
[05:42] <smokeyj> thats 1 min of google
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !google | smokeyj
[05:47] <smokeyj> lotuspsychje, omg
[05:48] <smokeyj> first read then ask
[05:48] <smokeyj> always
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> smokeyj: you are in the ubuntu support channel, that means be helpful not forward to google
[05:51] <smokeyj> Ok so should we start explaining that we now run systemd on some distros and some uses old int scripting
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | smokeyj yes
[05:51] <smokeyj> ohhh
[05:52] <smokeyj> good
[05:52] <smokeyj> Then he has a whole other task
[05:52] <smokeyj> building a service
[05:52] <smokeyj> :)
[05:53] <gry> smokeyj: the point of what lotuspsychje said is that people have three regions of things: 'things i can', 'things i can but only together with someone', and 'things i can not do'. movement from the latter into the former happens through the middle, and this is where irc comes in. teaching people to ask better questions is ok, but not by rejecting them
[05:53] <smokeyj> gry, I've been here on off 15 years. Its always been. Read, ask.
[05:54] <gry> dude: yes you can insert your script into another, but make sure to not edit system files as they get overwritten at the time of the next update; check that the location you use is a part of user settings, not a system package
[05:54] <gry> smokeyj: this has no relationship with what i said but ok
[05:56] <smokeyj> gry, is right there. Dont use legacy stuff. gry you can see how they phrase the questions
[05:56] <smokeyj> I can also ask for handholding
[05:56] <smokeyj> But then I really ask for Hand holding :)
[06:24] <hhzhk> clear
[06:34] <R3d_Sky> Hello!
[06:34] <R3d_Sky> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu Server for RPi. Is SSH enabled by default?
[06:34] <ducasse> R3d_Sky: it should be, yes
[06:35] <R3d_Sky> Iridium:~ oxylibrium$ ssh ubuntu@192.168.1.8
[06:35] <R3d_Sky> Connection reset by 192.168.1.8 port 22
[06:35] <R3d_Sky> The reason it's a hardcoded IP is my ISP locks me out of their shitty router which doesn't have hostname resolution
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> ...check that sshd (OpenSSH) is actually installed - and if so, that it's actually running...(sudo systemctl restart sshd) => should be good to go...
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> R3d_Sky, ...and the user "ubuntu" *does* exist on the server, hmm?
[06:43] <ducasse> R3d_Sky: or use 'systemctl status sshd' to see if there are errors
[06:45] <efei> how many people here ?
[07:20] <hlias> hey
[07:24] <hlias> hry
[07:30] <pierolas> any one use irssi???
[07:31] <Dr_Z2A> sometimes
[07:32] <pierolas> do you know how can i play voice???
[07:32] <pierolas> Dr_Z2A???
[07:33] <Dr_Z2A> voice?
[07:33] <Dr_Z2A> not sure what that is, sorry
[07:34] <pierolas> how u play sounds????
[07:34] <Dr_Z2A> I dunno man, it is a command line ncurses irc client, I wouldn't think it would be able to
[07:34] <Dr_Z2A> I mean maybe I'm wrong and it can
[07:36] <pierolas> ah ....ok
[07:36] <pierolas> thanks
[07:37] <Dr_Z2A> no probs, I mean google it, if you are looking for like a text to speech thing maybe somebody has done it, from what I understand it isn't too hard to make plugins
[07:39] <pierolas> thank i am find
[07:39] <akik> pierolas: you could try running a sound producing app with /exec app
[07:40] <pierolas> and what is the command to do that???
[07:40] <akik> /exec app
[07:41] <akik> pierolas: one app would be aplay
[07:41] <akik> aplay is a part of alsa-utils
[07:44] <pierolas> thank you akik, i will find out more about that
[07:44] <ailath> supsss
[07:44] <pierolas> i am a beginner so that is new to me
[07:45] <akik> pierolas: for example "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[07:48] <pierolas> got it akik....thanks alot
[07:49] <pierolas> so a have to sleep ...i have 2 hours to rest....
[07:50] <pierolas> thanks
[07:50] <pierolas> bye!!!
[07:52] <ayrus> Hi, df -h is showing 89% consumed, but du -sh is only showing 14GB used. how to get rid of files. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603551/ kindly help
[07:53] <ayrus> Hi, df -h is showing 89% consumed, but du -sh is only showing 14GB used how to get rid of files like even after sudo "du: cannot access `/proc/52001/task/52001/fd/4': No such file or directory" http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603551/ kindly help
[07:53] <akik> !patience
[07:56] <ikonia> akik: use du in the directory, man du to "not follow non-local mount points/filesystems"
[07:57] <oerheks> Those two tools were meant for different propose, df shows the file system usage, du the file space usage
[07:58] <ayrus> oerheks: yes, true. I just want to find the hidden file which is consuming the storage, to delete.
[07:58] <ayrus> ikonia: yes i have done that du -shx /*
[07:59] <oerheks> ayrus, there is no such file to delete, those bytes are occupied by the filesystem
[07:59] <oerheks> "overhead"
[08:00] <oerheks> * correct me if i am wrong*
[08:00] <akik> well 83 gigs vs 14 gigs is not caused by overhead
[08:01] <ayrus> oerheks: ok, then how to fix this to show the correct value. kindly help
[08:03] <oerheks> i see a difference between 11g and 14g
[08:03] <ayrus> "du: cannot access `/proc/52001/task/52001/fd/4': No such file or directory" this means the directory has been deleted but the space is not.
[08:03] <oerheks> not 83 g
[08:04] <ayrus> oerheks: df -h is showing 83GB used, du -shx is showing 14GB used.
[08:04] <JP____> lol, ayrus: this is not windows :p
[08:04] <JP____> There are no secret hidden files consuming storage space
[08:04] <JP____> What is your issue anyways?
[08:06] <oerheks> man du
[08:06] <kucing> #ubuntu
[08:07] <akik> JP____: his df reports 83 gig usage but du only find 14 gigs
[08:08] <akik> ayrus: is that a btrfs file system?
[08:09] <ledeni_> akik, oerheks --->  df shows the file system usage, du the file space usage
[08:13] <akik> ayrus: one option could possibly be that there are btrfs snapshots on that xvda1. i don't have a btrfs system here now so i can't check
[08:16] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[08:20] <JP____> the size of fs is not important?
[08:20] <JP____> isnt it just reserved space?
[08:21] <akik> JP____: the file system structures don't eat that much space
[08:21] <JP____> yeah probs
[08:22] <akik> but we never know as ayrus seems to have left :P
[08:23] <oerheks> akik, i think you looked at the wrong colom, i see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603639/
[08:24] <oerheks> i have chrome open with 10 tabs, looks pretty normal to mee
[08:24] <JP____> lol
[08:24] <zedMz> hi
[08:24] <akik> oerheks: well that's your system :)
[08:24] <JP____> well if he left, that means we have done our job
[08:24] <JP____> #CodingMetrics
[08:25] <akik> i get the same usage from df and du on my ext3 root fs
[08:25] <JP____> i have 54gigs when i df
[08:25] <JP____> for my user.private
[08:25] <JP____> But i am sure i dont have 54 gigs on this drive
[08:25] <JP____> maybe 10
[08:26] <akik> this is ayrus' paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24603551/
[08:27] <ayrus> akik: that is ext4.
[08:28] <ayrus> akik: https://pastebin.com/skAgwgbF
[08:28] <akik> ayrus: ... "Warning!  /dev/xvda1 is mounted."
[08:29] <ayrus> akik: yes, I have passed the argument -n for that. I first wanted to know the problem.
[08:30] <ikonia> win 1
[08:30] <cyberpolice> in terminal on 14.04 if you had  a command output that spanned multiple lines and terminal window was too thin, output would spill to next line and if you resized the terminal window, the output would remain on next line............... on 16.04 the output moves up to the line before?!?!
[08:30] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[08:31] <ayrus> akik: "Free blocks count wrong" is also not that big.
[08:31] <ikonia> cyberpolice: terminals should auto format depending on the size and that should be dynamic, occasional applications that you pipe programs into/thorugh can stop this from working
[08:31] <akik> 22086174/26212055 blocks = about 84% usage
[08:32] <cyberpolice> ikonia: it never did resize for me on 14.04. maybe i have a setting wrong somewhere
[08:32] <ikonia> cyberpolice: maybe, what is the output you are looking at
[08:32] <akik> ayrus: can you run fsck on the xvda1 file system?
[08:32] <cyberpolice> er, by resize i mean, adapt the output to terminal window size, and move output up if theres space when there wasnt before and so on
[08:33] <cyberpolice> ikonia: any command pretty much iirc
[08:33] <ayrus> akik: fsck by which arguments?
[08:33] <cyberpolice> ikonia: i will tell you later when i boot to 14.04
[08:34] <cyberpolice> am on 16.04 and noticed this nice behavior
[08:34] <akik> ayrus: there's a way to run fsck at boot by "touch /forcefsck"
[08:34] <ikonia> cyberpolice: for example, if I resize this window I'm reading IRC in, the lines get resized and formatted to fit the terminal
[08:35] <ayrus> akik: the server is on aws, should i go with by touching the file.
[08:36] <cyberpolice> oh i see. ive always used irc on weechat on tmux on raspberry pi, and it always resize the chat to terminal size, but that wasnt ubuntu so i cannot say for sure
[08:36] <akik> ayrus: do you see its console?
[08:37] <ikonia> cyberpolice: I was just giving you an example,
[08:37] <akik> ayrus: if you decide to use "touch /forcefsck" a precaution would be to also set FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS
[08:37] <akik> ayrus: otherwise the system could be left waiting for user input
[08:38] <ayrus> akik: ok thanks
[08:40] <a505gole> hello
[08:40] <a505gole> allo
[08:40] <a505gole> ola
[08:41] <a505gole> Hi farid
[08:48] <jack> dasei hi
[08:48] <jack> DasEI: hi
[08:52] <haroldjfks> hello, a question please... put the case server is currently writing on a text file, so that's there on location, can client download the file, even if truncated?
[08:53] <ikonia> haroldjfks: that makes no sense
[08:53] <ikonia> haroldjfks: could you try to ask it again
[08:54] <haroldjfks> ikonia: sorry, what doesn't make sense? 1) server is writing on a text file 2) can client download that file, even if trucated?
[08:54] <haroldjfks> truncated..
[08:55] <ghost-023> soon gut
[08:55] <ghost-023> guys
[08:55] <ikonia> haroldjfks: 1.) what server, how ? 2.) what client ? how ? 3.) it's not trucated,
[08:55] <ikonia> haroldjfks: that's what's not clear
[08:55] <haroldjfks> any server, linux...ubuntu for example, client...http, ftp...truncated, corrected...thanks
[08:56] <ghost-023> guys : what is your recomend tp lunch android at linux
[08:56] <ikonia> haroldjfks: thats not a question, it depends what server is doing the writing, how its writing, what client, how the client connects, how the client would download, it's no a realistic question
[08:57] <ikonia> haroldjfks: this isn't a generic linux theorectical discussion channel, it's used to support ubuntu problems,
[09:28] <glickster> hi
[09:28] <glickster> is anyone running ubuntu on a thinkpad x200?
[09:35] <ikonia> glickster: what's your real question
[09:38] <glickster> well, on my lenovo x200 sounds only works through my headphones
[09:38] <ikonia> ok, so thats the question you should detail out to the channel
[09:42] <glickster> pygtk2 package doesnt exist in ubuntu?
[09:42] <glickster> when i try to get install it it says no such package
[09:42] <ikonia> search the repo and look on the package list website
[09:46] <mikhael_k33hl> I can ssh, but I can't seem to see any ssh services.
[09:46] <oerheks> !info python-gtk2
[09:47] <oerheks> glickster, is that the package you want? ^^
[09:47] <glickster> yeah found it thanks oerheks!
[09:48] <danslo> Wasn't sure where else to ask. I've installed 'dnsmasq' package before, but have now purged it. Though even after doing this, NetworkManager still persistently sets an IP of 127.0.1.1 in resolv.conf, which causes a lot of DNS requests to fail. What's the default behavior here? I've set an IP of 8.8.8.8 in network manager GUI
[09:49] <danslo> (for dns servers)
[09:51] <Ben64> danslo: things are set up to use dnsmasq
[09:52] <glickster> damn it i cant figure out how to get the speaker sounds to work
[09:52] <glickster> headphones sound works as expected
[09:54] <freakynl> Hi, we have an old 10.04 server that we want to upgrade to 14.04. It aborts the upgrade now, but can't really see why. It runs itself in screen (do-release-upgrade) and it kills my buffers (can't scroll up). Does it log somewhere? /var/log/aptitude, /var/log/apt/term.log and /var/log/apt/history.log remain empty
[09:56] <Ben64> freakynl: you'd have to go to 12.04 first
[09:56] <Ben64> and 12.04 is no longer supported either, probably best at this point to install 16.04
[09:57] <freakynl> Ben64: the software running on it doesn't handle 16.04 yet
[09:58] <freakynl> Ben64: it's pulling a lot from old-releases.ubuntu.com. Supplier of the package rather upgrades the OS, not my decision
[09:58] <freakynl> It seems to fail on package verification of a lot of package. Set AllowUnauthenticated=yes in apt for now.
[09:58] <akik> freakynl: if you still have the screen session you can scroll it with ctrl-a-[
[09:59] <freakynl> akik: thanks, I did not know that
[09:59] <akik> freakynl: it goes into a copy buffer mode where you can select and copy text
[10:00] <akik> freakynl: scroll with cursors, press enter to select text
[10:00] <akik> freakynl: paste is ctrl-a-]
[10:01] <freakynl> akik: Nice. Apparently you can use Ctrl+a,ESC and then up-/down arrows too
[10:06] <voxox> hello
[10:06] <voxox> is there any way i can change locale on login menu on kde ??
[10:08] <freakynl> voxox: I'm not really familiar with the Ubuntu way of doing things in many cases, but it's usually just a thing of making sure the locale is set under the profile the login menu is loaded under.
[10:08] <sirru5h> Hi there voxox
[10:13] <hateball> voxox: you mean the sddm language?
[10:14] <sirru5h> voxox, check out  update-locale or locale-gen
[10:14] <voxox> yes
[10:15] <pagios> any idea about this error on sshserver? channel 2: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
[10:16] <voxox> hateball, i changed the locale, it worked on desktop but not login scren
[10:16] <hateball> voxox: what does /etc/default/locale look like?
[10:18] <hateball> voxox: that is what /lib/systemd/system/sddm.service reads to determine locale
[10:19] <voxox> i got it
[10:19] <voxox> hateball, theres the problem
[10:19] <voxox> they are not english
[10:19] <sirru5h> pagios, you're doing ssh tunneling ?
[10:20] <pagios> sirru5h, yes
[10:20] <hateball> voxox: change it so it matches what the output of "locale" is then. In my case I use swedish, so it is LANG="sv_SE.UTF-8"
[10:21] <hateball> I am not sure if there is a proper/gui way to change this
[10:22] <sirru5h> hmm pagios it's when  you login from the other machine correct?
[10:23] <pagios> yaea
[10:23] <voxox> hateball, thanks. its now working
[10:24] <sirru5h> so how many machines are you trying to connect to ssh?
[10:24] <Jakethepython1> W: http://archive.canonical.com/dists/precise/Release.gpg: Signature by key 630239CC130E1A7FD81A27B140976EAF437D05B5 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[10:25] <Jakethepython1> what does thismean?
[10:26] <GushingGranny> hi
[10:26] <oerheks> Jakethepython1, precise is dead, eol, servers are down
[10:26] <freakynl> Jakethepython1: it means that the SHA1 signature is deemed weak. SHA1 is being phased out
[10:26] <oerheks> And precise used the old sha1, that is changed by now
[10:26] <GushingGranny> what's wrong with SHA1?
[10:27] <freakynl> GushingGranny: it's weak compared to todays computing power
[10:27] <oerheks> GushingGranny, too weak, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1
[10:27] <GushingGranny> is SHA512 OK?
[10:27] <freakynl> GushingGranny: yea for quite some time to come
[10:27] <GushingGranny> ok
[10:28] <Jakethepython1> how do i change to sha X
[10:28] <GushingGranny> what's SHA X
[10:28] <oerheks> Jakethepython1, not, precise is dead.
[10:28] <freakynl> Jakethepython1: Canonical will have to do that, their repositories, their keys.
[10:29] <GushingGranny> leave
[10:29] <oerheks> No thanks, have fun
[10:29] <Jakethepython1> sha latest until i just cleikced the wiki i had no idea what SHA even was
[10:31] <oerheks> r.i.p. SHA1 1995-2017
[10:59] <rocky_> ??
[11:07] <lab1mobile4> li/60.net.comù
[11:10] <lab1mobile4> connessi ragazzi ?
[11:10] <lab1mobile4> .wiki its a site of deep web!!!!
[11:10] <lab1mobile4> are you crazy
[11:10] <adab4d> helo
[11:10] <adab4d> hello
[11:10] <lab1mobile4> hi
[11:11] <lab1mobile4> ok
[11:11] <lab1mobile4> how are you
[11:11] <adab4d> why aren't change or replace documented in ip-address(8)?
[11:11] <adab4d> are they just an alias for add?
[11:11] <lab1mobile4> boh i don't know
[11:11] <adab4d> the name suggest otherwise
[11:11] <adab4d> whois lab1mobile4
[11:12] <bazhang> lab1mobile4, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[11:12] <lab1mobile4> im a student of cina
[11:12] <adab4d> lab1mobile4: your grammar suggests otherwise, whois confirmed it
[11:12] <pos> Who do I bother about a bug in the zesty kernel?
[11:12] <lab1mobile4> who are italian ?
[11:14] <lab1mobile4> hi
[11:15] <bazhang> lab1mobile4, here is ubuntu support, not general chit chat
[11:15] <lab1mobile4> fuck you
[11:16] <R3d_Sky> glad he quit
[11:18] <Duckle> Hey there. I've plugged in a raspberry pi zero to my ubuntu 16.10 laptop, and I'm trying to access it over RNDIS ethernet.
[11:18] <Duckle> this is dmesg: https://pastebin.com/raw/Zkwjks44
[11:18] <Duckle> so it's recognised as an RNDIS gadget, but it's not showing in networks
[11:20] <Duckle> I do see the enp0s20f0u1 listed if I run ifconfig -a, but it has no IP
[11:26] <glachas> I am not able to extract a file. Giving error (pastebinned here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24604324/). Ubuntu 16.04
[11:27] <glick> im guessing my x200 has a hardware fault at this point
[11:27] <glick> with the no sound through speakers but through headphones
[11:31] <freakynl> glick: no clue what you're trying to do, but you can only hardlink within the same filesystem (assuming it's a filesystem that supports hardlinking)
[11:32] <pos> Anyone have a suggestion as to why /boot is automounted at boot even though it has "noauto" set in fstab?
[11:32] <zifu1> oh
[11:32] <zifu1>  hi
[11:32] <R3d_Sky> Why would you not want to automount /boot?
[11:33] <R3d_Sky> Anytime you run apt update && apt upgrade then, your kernel can break bad
[11:34] <pos> R3d_Sky, "because" and "I know" :)
[11:34] <pos> still,a ny idea why this is happening?
[11:37] <sirru5h> Well might aswell get a few hrs of sleep cya everyone
[11:37] <qswz> there are libreadline 5, 6, 7, which I should install, is there a default?
[11:38] <akik> pos: the grub configuration is in /boot/grub. it'll be updated occasionally
[11:38] <qswz> hmm i have libreadline7 installed
[11:38] <qswz> just ntot avail in terminal :s
[11:40] <pos> akik, and how is that interval managed, where is its state stored?
[11:40] <akik> pos: for example when upgrading the kernel
[11:49] <hardison> who is that?
[11:49] <hardison> Is any body here?
[11:49] <akik> hardison: this is the ubuntu support channel. do you have a question?
[11:50] <hardison> Are you robot?
[11:50] <akik> hardison: i meant a support question :)
[11:52] <immu> yeah
[11:52] <simpledat> Why do I get the option to encrypt my home folder? When I chose to use LVM encryption? Does not LVM encryption for home also include?
[11:53] <hardison> There is an option when you install ubuntu
[11:53] <hardison> when you setup your account name
[11:54] <simpledat> hardison: Yes, so what if I use LVM encryption? Do I also need to choose encrypt home in the next step? I thought LVM encryption already encrypted home as well.
[11:57] <simpledat> Anyone?
[11:58] <scottjl> !patience
[11:58] <SwedeMike> simpledat: if you already have block level encryption,then I would not use encrypted home at the same time, no.
[12:00] <simpledat> SwedeMike: Thank you. What if I use both of them?
[12:00] <SwedeMike> simpledat: only downside is that double encryption requires more processing.
[12:00] <simpledat> SwedeMike: I see.
[12:03] <ayrus> akik: the df -h and du -sh problem is now solved. I have mounted the root partisan on some other instance to check. I found that one disk volume is mounted on /dfs which is 1.5 TB and /dfs is also exist in root volume hard disk which was 68GB. I have deleted root disk /dfs volume.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:08] <Zalabaslea> hi
[12:11] <akik> ayrus: ah ok so you had 68 gigs in /dfs and then mounted something on top of it?
[12:12] <ayrus> akik: yes :( that cause me severe pain.
[12:14] <simpledat> I have an old computer laptop. Should I use Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[12:15] <simpledat> I run ubuntu right now, But I feel that firefox sometimes laggy
[12:16] <akik> simpledat: kubuntu 14.04 would be lighter than the newer ones
[12:17] <akik> simpledat: if you want the lightest one, test lubuntu
[12:17] <ioria> simpledat, how old ? cpu, ram, video card
[12:19] <simpledat> ioria: Im not sure, but I would say 7+ years
[12:20] <ioria> simpledat, ok, what cpu , ram and video card ?
[12:23] <simpledat> ioria: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6400 @2.00GHz, 4GB ram, Mobility Radeon HD 4650
[12:23] <ioria> simpledat, it's ok
[12:24] <simpledat> ioria: Would you stay to ubuntu or go with kubuntu maybe?
[12:24] <ioria> simpledat, no kubuntu, if you ask me
[12:25] <simpledat> ioria: For what reason?
[12:25] <ioria> simpledat, heavy
[12:25] <ioria> simpledat,  with that card you might have some problem with unity, so i'd say Xubuntu
[12:26] <simpledat> ioria: oh, so kubuntu is not "lighter" then ubuntu?
[12:26] <simpledat> ioria: ok
[12:26] <ioria> simpledat,  nope
[12:26] <azidhaka> simpledat: i think that Ubuntu MATE will work best on that hardware
[12:26] <ioria> simpledat,  yes, also mate is good
[12:27] <ioria> simpledat,  if you like gnome
[12:27] <akik> simpledat: kde plasma 4 is lighter than kde plasma 5
[12:27] <azidhaka> the old gnome
[12:27] <Croepha> Is there a database of debug_ids somewhere?
[12:27] <Croepha> for getting debug symbols for a binary?
[12:28] <simpledat> azidhaka: ok, I really like MATE actually.
[12:30] <azidhaka> simpledat: me too, i haven't used it fot a while, i hope the MATE team keeps it bug-free
[12:31] <azizLIGHT> How do enable multiverse from command line please?
[12:32] <azidhaka> sudo apt-add-repository multiverse
[12:33] <simpledat> hm, I always thought MATE was the heaviest
[12:33] <ioria> simpledat, there are 2 gnome right now
[12:34] <azidhaka> simpledat: it was the lightest in my tests
[12:34] <ioria> simpledat, the old one, (you can install it with gnome-flashback or use mate ) and the the new one (3) alias gnome-shell
[12:34] <azizLIGHT> azidhaka: I dont even have that package apt-add-repository. I'm on minimal install
[12:35] <azizLIGHT> How to proceed
[12:35] <azidhaka> replace directly in the sources.list: sed -i "/^# deb .* multiverse$/ s/^# //" /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:35] <azidhaka> if you have the line comented out in sources.list
[12:36] <oerheks> azizLIGHT, you could install it, as the warning says
[12:36] <azizLIGHT> I got error unable to locate package apt-add-repository
[12:37] <azizLIGHT> So it's also in multiverse/universe I guess
[12:37] <ioria> !info software-properties-common
[12:38] <oerheks> ioria +1
[12:38] <ioria> azizLIGHT, on minimal install ?
[12:38] <azizLIGHT> Yes
[12:38] <ioria> azizLIGHT, just edit sources.list then
[12:38] <azizLIGHT> Here is my sources http://i.imgur.com/kckfvo8.jpg
[12:39] <azizLIGHT> What to add where in there
[12:39] <azidhaka> azizLIGHT: what is the output of "lsb_release -c" ?
[12:40] <azizLIGHT> Xenial
[12:40] <ioria> azizLIGHT, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24604556/    replace yakkety with xenial
[12:40] <azizLIGHT> Thanks ioria
[12:41] <oerheks> does minimal not include those repos uncommented??? unbelievable
[12:41] <azidhaka> ioria: you have one "d" missing on the last line
[12:41] <ioria> azizLIGHT,  ^ azizLIGHT
[12:42] <ioria> azizLIGHT,  ^ azidhaka
[12:42] <zetheroo> is there anyone here who is using PBIS with Ubuntu?
[12:42] <ioria> azizLIGHT,   correct the last line
[12:44] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, what's PBIS?
[12:44] <latenite> Hi folks, how do I scan for one particular SSID? I tried: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/507a7ffb2754c0d42a1a7fcac4bb3d41
[12:44] <latenite> But I keep getting all SSIDs
[12:44] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: the newer form of Likewise - for joining Linux to a Windows domain
[12:47] <BluesKaj> zetheroo, ok, nvm, whatever likewise is
[12:47] <azizLIGHT> ioria: got it, thanks. It's working now
[12:47] <ioria> azizLIGHT,   good job
[12:49] <azidhaka> zetheroo: apparently nobody. what is the problem you're having?
[12:50] <zetheroo> azidhaka: something is happening after login ( with AD creds) that is causing the mounts not to authenticate earlier than say 20 seconds after login.
[12:50] <zetheroo> I don't know where to even begin to troubleshoot this
[12:55] <azidhaka> zetheroo: is your AD controller Windows server?
[12:55] <zetheroo> yes
[12:56] <azidhaka> zetheroo: anything in its logs?
[12:56] <zetheroo> I am mounting the shares via gvfs
[12:56] <zetheroo> logs on the DC?
[12:56] <azidhaka> yes
[12:57] <zetheroo> not sure there should be any ... the authentication works but only after something on the local PC is ... well .. done ... I guess
[12:57] <zetheroo> I don't know what that lag is caused by
[12:57] <zetheroo> also, if I logout and back in again the mounts come instantly - but if I shutdown or reboot there is this lag
[12:58] <azidhaka> zetheroo: i would look first in the logs, syslog or PBIS log, if it creates any
[12:59] <zetheroo> I looked in syslog .. lots of info ... don't know what I am looking for
[12:59] <azidhaka> is PBIS GUI or console based?
[13:00] <zetheroo> console
[13:00] <zetheroo> there is a GUI for installation but that about it
[13:00] <zetheroo> and there is only a log for the PBIS installation
[13:00] <azidhaka> is this the line to initiate joining the domain? domainjoin-cli join domain.local domain-administrator-username
[13:00] <zetheroo> yep
[13:01] <zetheroo> my pc is on the domain - that's not the issue
[13:01] <azidhaka> zetheroo: the idea is to get some debug data when joining
[13:01] <zetheroo> btw, this is occurring on all of our Ubuntu pcs with PBIS
[13:01] <zetheroo> so it's not just my machine ... I am just trying to solve the mystery :0
[13:02] <azidhaka> zetheroo: do you have a debug or verbose option when rinning "domainjoin-cli --help" ?
[13:03] <jegwjen> How do i fix this debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used
[13:04] <zetheroo> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24604651/
[13:04] <zetheroo> that's what there is
[13:05] <azidhaka> zetheroo: let's do this - first make sure that the mounts will hang
[13:05] <azidhaka> zetheroo: you said that they will mount fast if you logout
[13:05] <zetheroo> well they aren't mounted now
[13:06] <zetheroo> yes
[13:06] <zetheroo> if I logout and back in
[13:06] <azidhaka> zetheroo: go to a state where there will be that delay when joining the domain
[13:06] <zetheroo> it's not when joining the domain
[13:06] <azidhaka> oh
[13:06] <zetheroo> it's after logging in - I can login with the AD creds whether or not the PC is ont he network
[13:07] <azidhaka> are the mounts server-controlled?
[13:07] <azidhaka> like the AD pushes them
[13:07] <zetheroo> but there is something going on after login which is authenticating to the DC (I expect) and that is lagging about 15 - 20 seconds behind login
[13:07] <zetheroo> mounts are not pushed
[13:08] <zetheroo> mounts are pulled with gvfs
[13:08] <zetheroo> like so - gvfs-mount smb://server/share
[13:08] <azidhaka> zetheroo: okay, let's see if everything goes well with the authentification
[13:09] <zetheroo> wanna see an auth.log? :D
[13:09] <azidhaka> zetheroo: log out of the AD and join again using the following line
[13:09] <zetheroo> log out of the AD?
[13:09] <zetheroo> what do you mean?
[13:10] <azidhaka> domainjoin-cli --logfile /tmp/join.log --loglevel verbose YOUR.DOMAIN USERNAME
[13:11] <azidhaka> zetheroo: leave the AD with domainjoin -clie leave
[13:11] <zetheroo> with 'sudo domainjoin-cli query' I can see that I am on the domain
[13:11] <zetheroo> ok
[13:11] <azidhaka> domainjoin-cli leave
[13:11] <zetheroo> done
[13:11] <azidhaka> and unmount the shares
[13:12] <zetheroo> they aren't mounted
[13:12] <azidhaka> okay, join now with the logfile and verbose on
[13:12] <zetheroo> oh crap .. now my user is not known because I was logged in as an AD user ...
[13:13] <zetheroo> I will have to switch to a local user account to rejoin the domain
[13:13] <zetheroo> be back in a bit with a logfile ... hopefully
[13:13] <azidhaka> zetheroo: you will have a log in /tmp/join.log, check it out for any users/passwords/domains/ip you don't want exposed
[13:14] <azizLIGHT> is ubuntu made in 32 bit
[13:14] <azizLIGHT> trying to find a 32 bit iso for 16.04
[13:14] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:14] <scottjl> you can get 32 or 64 bit versions
[13:15] <azidhaka> azizLIGHT: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[13:15] <SchrodingersScat> azizLIGHT: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:15] <azizLIGHT> thank you
[13:15] <azidhaka> azizLIGHT: ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso is what you need
[13:16] <azizLIGHT> appreciate it, thanks
[13:16] <Kompliziert> hello guys
[13:16] <Kompliziert> i having a problem that the ubuntu mainline kernel doenst support zfsutils
[13:17] <Kompliziert> its working with a stable kernel but not with the mainline
[13:17] <oerheks> Kompliziert, file a bugreport?
[13:18] <n1c0> hi all!
[13:18] <SchrodingersScat> n1c0: oh hey
[13:19] <Kompliziert> modprobe zfs = not in modul lib/modules/kernelxyz oerheks
[13:21] <BlenderProXpwned> can somebody please help me identify my chipset? I got the vendor ID and product ID listed on my askubuntu forum thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/915872/need-to-correctly-install-netgear-network-pccard-fa510-on-xubuntu-16-04/916810#916810
[13:21] <oerheks> Kompliziert, 'mainline' is only for tests, and debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk. again, file a bugreport, we cannot do anything about that
[13:21] <Kompliziert> the reason why im unsing a mainline kernel is, that my dvb tuner card not working with 4.8 or above. dont know why its working in 4.8 mainline but not in stable. oerheks
[13:22] <Kompliziert> has something to do with the smi pcie drivers i guess
[13:22] <oerheks> Kompliziert, add that info to your bugreport too
[13:23] <oerheks> nvidia-smi ?
[13:23] <Kompliziert> nope
[13:23] <Kompliziert> its my pcie smi driver for the tvtuner
[13:24] <Kompliziert> dont know why its missing in any stable versions i tested
[13:25] <Kompliziert> https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechnoTrend_TT-budget_S2-4200_Twin << this card oerheks and it says its working since 4.7
[13:26] <kallesbar> Hi, I have this. Some updates came to nvidia gpu and it meesed up my system I end up black screen. I Can boot emergency mode but can't starup network. It says somethin stopped NVIDIA drivers. Can someone help me out?
[13:28] <azidhaka> Kompliziert: it is included in kernel > 4.7, but isn't it possible to just compile the standalone driver for older kernel versions
[13:28] <mvvvv> kallesbar, I got something similar yesterday : go to tty1 : sudo apt remove nvidia-375, reboot then reinstall the nvidia driver from parameters (proprietary drivers)
[13:28] <simpledat> 7quit
[13:28] <oerheks> Kompliziert, no clue there about smi, maybe you want libsmi2-common ?
[13:28] <oerheks> !info libsmi2-common
[13:28] <zetheroo> ok, I'm back
[13:29] <azidhaka> zetheroo: yay!
[13:29] <zetheroo> can I PM you the paste?
[13:29] <Kompliziert> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/media/pci/smipcie << there is the pcie smi module maybe i can compile it? oerheks
[13:30] <zetheroo> azidhaka: I sent you a PM with the log
[13:31] <azidhaka> zetheroo: yes, thank you
[13:33] <oerheks> Kompliziert, i didn find any, sorry, maybe someone else has a clue?
[13:34] <Kompliziert> np dude oerheks
[13:35] <kallesbar> mvvvv: Ok. That seemed to help, thanks
[13:36] <azidhaka> zetheroo: I don't see any errors. For GVFS do you supply separate credentials or use a PAM module?
[13:36] <zetheroo> azidhaka: I do nothing other than the gvfs-mount command
[13:36] <zetheroo> so it's picking up the creds from PAM probably
[13:37] <azidhaka> zetheroo: let's look into gvfs debug then
[13:37] <zetheroo> in the syslog I found this: May 19 15:24:27 eab-ux lightdm[1213]: Stopping PAM conversation, interaction requested but not supported
[13:38] <azidhaka> zetheroo: this is the graphic login manager
[13:38] <zetheroo> right
[13:39] <zetheroo> I don't see any gvfs log
[13:39] <azidhaka> zetheroo: i think it was controlled with environment variables, i am looking into it
[13:40] <azidhaka> zetheroo: the mount command is only this: gvfs-mount smb://$SERVERIP/$SHARE, no other options supplied, right?
[13:41] <zetheroo> right
[13:42] <azidhaka> zetheroo: just for the test, can you please create a file "/root/.smbcredentials" with the following lines: username=your-ad-user ; new line; password=your-ad-password
[13:43] <azidhaka> and see if the mount is instant
[13:43] <azidhaka> if you are not root, create it in your home directory
[13:44] <zetheroo> azidhaka: well that's what we had before using PBIS. we mounted with fstab pointing to a creds file
[13:44] <zetheroo> it was instantly mounted
[13:44] <zetheroo> but that's not using gvfs .. it's just a cifs mount
[13:45] <azidhaka> zetheroo: it is possible that gvfs tries to use a different auth method, timeouts and then logs in
[13:45] <zetheroo> azidhaka: yeah, something like that ... but how to get a sense of what's actually going on?
[13:45] <zetheroo> :)
[13:46] <azidhaka> zetheroo: let me see how PBIS integrates with PAM
[13:46] <zetheroo> are there really no gvfs logs?
[13:47] <azidhaka> look in auth.log
[13:47] <zetheroo> already did - gvfs not found
[13:48] <azidhaka> look for timeouts
[13:48] <zetheroo> May 19 09:57:11 eab-ux gcr-prompter[5530]: Gcr: calling the PromptDone method on /org/gnome/keyring/Prompt/p3@:1.2, and ignoring reply
[13:48] <zetheroo> May 19 09:57:21 eab-ux gcr-prompter[5530]: 10 second inactivity timeout, quitting
[13:48] <azizLIGHT> Oh god why did I load Ubuntu 16.04 desktop livecd on pentium 4
[13:48] <azidhaka> the line might start with 'fuse" or "pam" or any other module gvfs uses
[13:48] <strk> new system, new problems: did anyone fight with gpg-agent and it's insisting in prompting using X instead of terminal ?
[13:49] <zetheroo> May 19 14:07:45 eab-ux systemd-logind[1114]: Delay lock is active (UID 1902118133/eb, PID 2641/gnome-session-b) but inhibitor timeout is reached.
[13:49] <azidhaka> zetheroo: doesn't look like it
[13:49] <zetheroo> ok, that last one was just before shutdown ... so ignore it
[13:50] <zetheroo> that's all there is for 'timeout'
[13:50] <implite> azizLIGHT: why didnt you use lubuntu or xubuntu or something lighter on your pentium 4?
[13:50] <azizLIGHT> Because I am dumb
[13:50] <implite> !lubuntu
[13:51] <zetheroo> azidhaka: how can I just search all files in a folder for a word?
[13:52] <implite> search inside a text file for example?
[13:52] <azidhaka> zetheroo: with "grep "word" /path/*
[13:52] <zetheroo> ok
[13:52] <azidhaka> grep "word" /path/*
[13:53] <strk> why, if I have DISPLAY unset, gpg-agent still prompts me via GUI ? (using pinentry-gnome3)
[13:54] <azidhaka> zetheroo: do this: unmount the shares, then set the debug variables: export GVFS_DEBUG=1; export GVFS_SMB_DEBUG=1
[13:54] <azidhaka> zetheroo: then run gvfs-mount as usual
[13:54] <zetheroo> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24604873/
[13:55] <azidhaka> how much time did the mount take?
[13:55] <azidhaka> this is only 1 second of logs
[13:55] <zetheroo> yeah, that message was in my syslog
[13:55] <zetheroo> it's there several times
[13:56] <zetheroo> ok, so going to give what you said a try
[13:56] <azidhaka> zetheroo: after setting the variables up there?
[13:56] <zetheroo> no no
[13:56] <zetheroo> I was just looking through syslog
[13:56] <vimes> any one here know how to use certbot (let's encrypt)? having trouble in that it does not go past "Enter your email". I do and nothing happens.
[13:57] <azidhaka> zetheroo: okay, please with it with the debug variables: export GVFS_DEBUG=1; export GVFS_SMB_DEBUG=1
[13:57] <azidhaka> *run*
[13:57] <zetheroo> is that one command or two?
[13:58] <azidhaka> two
[13:58] <zetheroo> ok, so I set the variables and mounted with gvfs-mount ...
[13:58] <zetheroo> now what?
[13:59] <azidhaka> now do the usual gvfs-mount smb://......
[13:59] <zetheroo> already did
[13:59] <simpledat> firefox-esr is not installed by default, right?
[13:59] <azidhaka> zetheroo: if it didn't output anything in the console, check /var/log/syslog
[14:01] <azizLIGHT> implite: lubuntu or xubuntu
[14:01] <implite> for a p4?
[14:01] <implite> I would start with lubuntu
[14:02] <zetheroo> azidhaka: nothing
[14:02] <implite> !xubuntu
[14:03] <azidhaka> zetheroo: you must run the mount commands in the same shell you typed the exports
[14:03] <zetheroo> yep
[14:03] <azidhaka> export GVFS_DEBUG=1 && export GVFS_SMB_DEBUG=1 && gvfs-mount smb://...
[14:03] <implite> I think lubuntu would be better for your Pentium 4
[14:03] <alex1> When I use the default pinentry (pinentry-gnome2), it occasionally steals focus and doesn't let me use my keyboard. I can't escape out of it. Does anyone know a possible remedy or at least a cause? Ubuntu 16.04
[14:04] <implite> can you alt-tab?
[14:04] <azidhaka> zetheroo: run this as a single command just to be sure...
[14:04] <zetheroo> did it just now
[14:04] <zetheroo> nothing different
[14:04] <implite> alt-f1
[14:04] <mr_boo> hi
[14:05] <azidhaka> zetheroo: okay, how about gvfs-mount --help?
[14:05] <alex1> I can't alt-tab either.
[14:05] <mr_boo> how do i list wlan networks in the nm-applet in lubuntu 17.04?
[14:05] <implite> try alt f1
[14:05] <alex1> implite: me?
[14:06] <zetheroo> azidhaka: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24604912/
[14:06] <wandier> oi
[14:06] <zetheroo> -i ?
[14:06] <azidhaka> zetheroo: looks like it, but it might be only for --monitor and --list
[14:06] <azidhaka> zetheroo: try it
[14:07] <zetheroo> -i doesn't give any output either
[14:07] <azidhaka> try with -o -i
[14:07] <art_> hello help m
[14:07] <art_> me
[14:07] <art_> plis
[14:07] <TvL2386> hey guys, I'm trying to setup nfsd but I get a weird error: rpc.mountd[4008]: refused mount request from 192.168.1.78 for /opt/librenmns (/): not exported
[14:07] <mr_boo> how do i list wireless networks with lubuntu 17.04?
[14:08] <art_> i can not open port in router
[14:08] <TvL2386> /etc/exports: /opt/librenms 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[14:08] <zetheroo> azidhaka: Monitoring events. Press Ctrl+C to quit.
[14:08] <art_> i can not open port in router
[14:08] <zetheroo> azidhaka: and it's not mounting
[14:08] <azidhaka> do the mount in another console
[14:08] <art_> help me
[14:08] <azidhaka> and see if this prints out something
[14:08] <art_> plis
[14:09] <art_> how from russia
[14:09] <art_> i can not open port in router
[14:09] <leftyfb> art_: this is support for Ubuntu, not your router. Please look up the documentation for your router.
[14:09] <zetheroo> azidhaka: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24604927/
[14:09] <TvL2386> typo... lol
[14:10] <azidhaka> zetheroo: anything in syslog?
[14:10] <zetheroo> nope
[14:10] <art_> i open port on re but i can not connect from another wifi
[14:10] <zetheroo> what about pam logs?
[14:11] <azizLIGHT> brasero is pretty cool. good/simple way to burn cd/dvd
[14:12] <azidhaka> zetheroo: unfortunately i have to go. check the logs /var/log/samba/ especially log.smbd
[14:12] <leftyfb> art_: try #ubuntu-ru
[14:12] <zetheroo> azidhaka: ok, thanks for trying ;)
[14:13] <azidhaka> zetheroo: good luck!
[14:13] <mr_boo> how do i list wireless networks in lubuntu 17.04?
[14:14] <akik> mr_boo: iwlist your_interface scan
[14:14] <vacho> can someone please help me, how do I free up disk space
[14:15] <mr_boo> thanks akik
[14:15] <leftyfb> vacho: you delete things
[14:15] <vacho> leftyfb: what can I delete? can u please help me.I spend 2 days on this thing, very frustrating
[14:16] <leftyfb> vacho: what version of ubuntu are you running? How big is your HDD? How much space is taken up?
[14:16] <vacho> leftyfb: I just doubled my disk space with Ec2 AWS but still same issue
[14:16] <vacho> 16.04
[14:16] <R3d_Sky> Is there a proper way of importing all files from a dir and running [filename].Command?
[14:16] <leftyfb> vacho: How big is your HDD? How much space is taken up?
[14:17] <R3d_Sky> wrong channel sorry :P
[14:18] <vacho> leftyfb: I am not sure
[14:18] <leftyfb> vacho: df -h /
[14:19] <vacho> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:19] <vacho> /dev/xvda1      7.8G  6.1G  1.4G  83% /
[14:19] <vacho> I just doubled it though, but it does not reflect.
[14:19] <leftyfb> vacho: is this ubuntu server or desktop?
[14:19] <vacho> EC2 Server
[14:20] <leftyfb> vacho: you probably have to shutdown and restart for ec2 changes to take affect
[14:20] <leftyfb> vacho: you might even have to resize the partition
[14:20] <vacho> leftyfb: I did that already..should I try again?
[14:20] <leftyfb> vacho: you should read the documentation for ec2
[14:20] <MrMeeseeks> ec2 documentation is terrible. xD almost as bad as perldoc.
[14:21] <leftyfb> google would work as well
[14:21] <leftyfb> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-instance-resize.html
[14:21] <leftyfb> that doesn't look terrible
[14:21] <simpledat> how do I install firefox-esr? E: Unable to locate package firefox-est
[14:22] <leftyfb> simpledat: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/
[14:22] <leftyfb> simpledat: it's not an official ubuntu package
[14:23] <leftyfb> simpledat: also this from googling https://askubuntu.com/questions/894871/how-to-install-firefox-52-esr-on-16-04
[14:25] <nobitanobi> hello - when I run `sudo crontab -u root -l` I see an entry like this: `15 * * * * logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy` - however, the cron is not running - but I am able to run the command `sudo logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy` - how can I check why is that happening?
[14:25] <DArqueBishop> !info openvpn
[14:25] <DArqueBishop> !info openvpn xenial
[14:26] <implite> !info openvms
[14:26] <implite> lol fail
[14:27] <implite> !info cdm
[14:27] <implite> !info cde
[14:28] <Pici> !msgthebot
[14:28] <implite> sorry
[14:29] <mr_boo> i tried the command iwlist your_interface scan where my interface has the id of "0280" but it just said that the device didn't support scanning
[14:30] <mr_boo> my wireless card shows up with the lspci -nn command
[14:30] <mr_boo> but the nm-applet shows no wireless support
[14:30] <mr_boo> i'm considering installing ubuntu instead of lubuntu on this old laptop
[14:31] <leftyfb> mr_boo: iwconfig  ... that's how you can find your wifi name to use with iwlist
[14:31] <leftyfb> usually starts with wlp or wlan
[14:31] <jikz> hi guys..
[14:32] <mr_boo> thanks leftyfb
[14:32] <jikz> just trying to install few packages using apt..
[14:32] <jikz> i am getting certificate verification error..
[14:32] <jikz> i am not able to get around this..
[14:32] <leftyfb> jikz: post your command and output to pastebin
[14:33] <mr_boo> leftyfb: the command gave me "no wireless extentions"
[14:33] <leftyfb> mr_boo: what was the interface name?
[14:34] <jikz> https://pastebin.com/0mHYRuzz
[14:34] <mr_boo> leftyfb: Broadcom Limited BCM4312
[14:34] <leftyfb> no
[14:35] <leftyfb> mr_boo: iwconfig  ... that's how you can find your wifi name to use with iwlist
[14:35] <leftyfb> usually starts with wlp or wlan
[14:35] <mr_boo> leftyfb: but iwconfig only replies "no wireless extention"
[14:36] <leftyfb> jikz: try changing the URL from in.archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.com. I understand it might not be closer, but this is to troubleshoot the issue
[14:36] <jikz> leftyfb, thanks. let me check.
[14:37] <leftyfb> mr_boo: try installing the latest kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[14:38] <mr_boo> leftyfb: i am on lubuntu btw
[14:39] <leftyfb> mr_boo: irrelevant
[14:40] <jikz> leftyfb, its the same with US as well.
[14:40] <jikz> https://pastebin.com/a1M8N2mZ
[14:40] <leftyfb> jikz: how new is this install? I'd suggest reinstalling
[14:40] <mr_boo> leftyfb: i think i'll install ubuntu instead
[14:41] <leftyfb> mr_boo: that will not help you
[14:41] <leftyfb> mr_boo: you'll more than likely have the same issue
[14:41] <mr_boo> leftyfb: what is the likely cause of the issue?
[14:41] <leftyfb> jikz: you could try http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21181231/server-certificate-verification-failed-cafile-etc-ssl-certs-ca-certificates-c
[14:41] <leftyfb> mr_boo: lack of properly loaded drivers
[14:42] <leftyfb> mr_boo: if you install the kernel I suggested, it might have the driver
[14:42] <mr_boo> leftyfb: but why is the device listed in "lspci -nn" ?
[14:42] <KristijanZic> Need assistance. I've installed the light-themes_16.10+17.10.20170515.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb from omgubuntu.co.uk to my 17.04 and the theme got broken because some apps in ubuntu use toolbar instead of headerbar. When I want to delete the light-themes package it also wants to delete the ubuntu-artwork and ubuntu-desktop packages. What should I do?
[14:42] <leftyfb> mr_boo: because it's a device. There's just no proper drivers for it loaded
[14:42] <mr_boo> leftyfb: this is an old laptop
[14:43] <leftyfb> mr_boo: and?
[14:43] <freakynl> Anyone see anything wrong with this crontab line? The file doesn't appear. It's added to root's crontab. */5 * * * * /bin/echo `/bin/date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S` `/usr/bin/awk 'NR==2' /proc/net/netstat` >> /data/logs/netstat.log
[14:43] <mr_boo> leftyfb: dell inspiron 1545
[14:43] <leftyfb> mr_boo: are you going to try the new kernel or not?
[14:43] <leftyfb> freakynl: I would put all that into a script and call that with cron
[14:43] <mr_boo> leftyfb: i've installed the latest lubuntu on this machine
[14:43] <jikz> leftyfb, aah.. a developer is already working on this and the installation is couple of months old..
[14:43] <leftyfb> mr_boo: are you going to try the new kernel I suggested or not?
[14:43] <mr_boo> leftyfb: lets do that then
[14:43] <jikz> i dont' think i can re-install..
[14:44] <leftyfb> jikz: why not?
[14:44] <mr_boo> leftyfb: the lubuntu is the newest btw
[14:44] <mr_boo> leftyfb: also gonna be hard to download stuff on that laptop since it has no connection
[14:44] <leftyfb> mr_boo: uname -a        # that will tell you the kernel you are running
[14:45] <implite> KristijanZic: Package light-themes_16.10+17.10.20170515.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb does not exist in zesty
[14:45] <leftyfb> mr_boo: plug in ethernet
[14:45] <leftyfb> implite: correct, he got it from OMG Ubuntu
[14:45] <jikz> leftyfb, when you say re-install i have to re-install from scratch?
[14:45] <KristijanZic> implite: I've got it from omgubuntu.co.uk
[14:46] <jikz> leftyfb, can we not disable this ssl verification?
[14:46] <leftyfb> jikz: that is what I would suggest. Since you're running 14.04. 16.04 is the latest LTS release. Or try the suggestions from the link from google I sent you.
[14:47] <jikz> leftyfb, :) 14.04 is also LTS :)
[14:48] <azmarco> some jazzy music for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae0nwSv6cTU
[14:48] <implite> bbl
[14:48] <leftyfb> azmarco: not on-topic
[14:49] <mr_boo> leftyfb: "4.10-019 generic" kernel
[14:49] <leftyfb> mr_boo: oh, you're running 17.04
[14:49] <mr_boo> leftyfb: yes
[14:50] <leftyfb> mr_boo: are you able to plug in ethernet?
[14:50] <mr_boo> gonna try leftyfb
[14:50] <KristijanZic> Why is for example nautilus using title bar + tool bar instead of header bar? How do I make it use header bar? If I make or install the affected apps to use headerbar, that should probably fix my theming issue
[14:50] <nobitanobi> where is the crontab for user root?
[14:50] <nobitanobi> in /var/spool/cron I don't see any root folder
[14:50] <leftyfb> mr_boo: if so, try installing bcmwl-kernel-source and reboot
[14:50] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: sudo crontab -e
[14:50] <scottjl> nobitanobi: then one isn't set up for root yet
[14:51] <leftyfb> scottjl: there should always be a default in /var/spool/crontab/crontabs/root ....
[14:52] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: but you should not edit that directly. Use sudo crontab -e
[14:52] <scottjl> hmm i don't have a clean system to check.
[14:53] <nobitanobi> # Chef Name: haproxy_log
[14:53] <nobitanobi> 15 * * * * logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy
[14:53] <nobitanobi> interesting. Why when I run `sudo crontab -l -u root` I see: ^
[14:53] <nobitanobi> sorry, wrong pasting
[14:53] <KristijanZic> ok, I don't want to enable csd, I won't be able to use HUD then. Back to the how do I revert the theme back?
[14:54] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: don't bother with -u root, just sudo crontab -e
[14:54] <leftyfb> or -l to list, not edit
[14:54] <nobitanobi> same thing, I see it - but I don't see a root folder in /var/spool/cron
[14:55] <nobitanobi> the reason I am asking where the file is, because for some reason that cron is not running, but I am able to run `sudo logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy` manually
[14:55] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: there's not supposed to be a root folder in /var/spool/cron. Just edit your cron with sudo crontab -e
[14:55] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: sudo crontab -l
[14:55] <leftyfb> will list cron for root
[14:55] <nobitanobi> yep, and is listing this:
[14:56] <nobitanobi> # Chef Name: haproxy_log
[14:56] <nobitanobi> 15 * * * * logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy
[14:56] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: if it's not working, start troubleshooting by looking in /var/log/syslog or your haproxy logs
[14:56] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: great, you have a cron for root
[14:56] <nobitanobi> well, I know the command is working because I can run it manually by doing: `sudo logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy`
[14:56] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: that's also not how logrotate is supposed to work
[14:57] <nobitanobi> how come?
[14:57] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: /etc/logrotate.d/
[14:57] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples
[14:57] <leftyfb> from google
[14:58] <nobitanobi> @leftyfb I have logrotate running on a daily basis, but I want to run that specific haproxy logs hourly
[14:58] <nobitanobi> why don't you think is how it's supposed to work?
[15:00] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: edit /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy and put in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24605100/
[15:01] <nobitanobi> done
[15:01] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: unless you're trying to get the logs written every hour, as opposed to daily for every hour ... then sure, do it your way
[15:02] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: either way, look through syslog and your haproxy logs to troubleshoot your cron
[15:02] <EDAKIRI> I am running Zesty. Where is a repository with a more recent or more stable (4.9) Linux (kernel)?  Zesty crashes frequently. -- which can by why i disappear, but i will check the logs.
[15:02] <nobitanobi> even if I put hourly in there haproxy, I don't have anything that makes it run hourly (any cron), that's why I added the cron to make it run hourly
[15:02] <nobitanobi> leftyfb: makes sense? Adding hourly in /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy doesn't take effect if there is no cron to be run hourly
[15:03] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: see my last posts
[15:03] <jikz> is it possible to get the certificate in pem format so that I can append them in the crt file..?
[15:03] <jikz> that way i can get the packages installation verified?
[15:03] <jikz> re-installation is not going to help me..
[15:03] <jikz> what do you think?
[15:04] <leftyfb> jikz: why do you think reinstalling ubuntu (preferably 16.04) isn't going to help you? Your system is in a broken state. It didn't get installed like that.... not from an official iso that is
[15:04] <nobitanobi> leftyfb: I guess I am not following, sorry. I wanted to have a cron, to run hourly that specific haproxy logrotate. Even if I add `hourly` to the haproxy logroate, it won't run, because the logrotate is configured to run daily
[15:04] <leftyfb> I get it
[15:04] <leftyfb> my last posts mean I get it
[15:05] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: look through syslog and your haproxy logs to troubleshoot your cron
[15:05] <nobitanobi> ok
[15:05] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: also, it will only rotate logs as specified in your config, not before the configured time no matter how many times you run it
[15:06] <leftyfb> if you specify hourly and it ran and rotated at 2pm, an you run it at 2:30, it won't do anything
[15:06] <nobitanobi> right - I added hourly in that haproxy logrotate too, but without a cron it wouldn't check it hourly. I am going to check the syslog logs
[15:06] <nobitanobi> thanks leftyfb
[15:06] <jikz> leftyfb, he is using few application which is not compatible with 16.04
[15:07] <jikz> so we need to have this in 14.04
[15:07] <leftyfb> jikz: that doesn't seem right. Not many things will run on 14.04 and not 16.04. Unless they're custom and outdated
[15:09] <jikz> leftyfb, trust me it was from genuine iso.. and he is on php5.3 which is still in lts.. so we cannot upgrade to 16.04 as his php will get upgraded as well.
[15:09] <jikz> so we needed to preserve..
[15:09] <nobitanobi> leftyfb: I found something! "No MTA installed, discarding output" when trying to run the cron
[15:09] <jikz> is there any other way?
[15:10] <leftyfb> jikz: if your application only runs on php5 and not php7, then the application needs to be upgraded.
[15:10] <momomo> when it comes to scaling a website from too much load ... how do one scale and place one server in china, one in usa , on in europe to provide a better experience ... doesn't all requests have to go at one IP first ? like does Facebook manage all their traffic using the same IP address? Facebook.com .. or can one say, if you are in usa use this server, ...
[15:10] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: put this at the end of your cron line: > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:11] <nobitanobi> let me see how to do that with the chef recipe :)
[15:11] <leftyfb> momomo: your question is off-topic from Ubuntu support
[15:11] <nobitanobi> should I output it into a log, to see what might be going on?
[15:11] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: I would start with sudo crontab -e to test it
[15:11] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: sure
[15:12] <nobitanobi> k - I'm going to do this `15 * * * * logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy >> /var/log/triage_cron.log`
[15:13] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: logrotate /etc/logrotate.d/haproxy >> /var/log/triag_cron.log 2>&1
[15:13] <one808> 你好
[15:14] <leftyfb> one808: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:16] <one808> leftyfb: Oh
[15:16] <kallesbar> mvvvv: Hi, have still the nvidia problem. When trying to install nvidia-367 driver it always instaal somethin on nvidia-375 and ends up black screen. How to avoid that?
[15:17] <mvvvv> kallesbar, why do you want 367 ?
[15:18] <MrMeeseeks> kallesbar: configure x properly
[15:18] <kallesbar> as far i know it latest propriatery driver on 16.04.2 LTS
[15:19] <leftyfb> kallesbar: nvidia-libopencl1-375 is the latest
[15:19] <leftyfb> kallesbar: you can tell by the later number
[15:19] <leftyfb> sorry, nvidia-375
[15:19] <leftyfb> not libopencl
[15:20] <leftyfb> kallesbar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-375
[15:20] <kallesbar> leftyfb: shoud I try to install nvidia-375?
[15:20] <kallesbar> leftyfb: ok I try that
[15:21] <nobitanobi> leftyfb: we have something :) `/bin/sh: 1: logrotate: not found`
[15:21] <leftyfb>  /usr/sbin/logrotate
[15:22] <nobitanobi> :) let's see! leftyfb thanks a lot for the lessons
[15:23] <mr_boo> had to borrow the ethernet cable leftyfb
[15:23] <kallesbar_> leftyfb: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915
[15:23] <kallesbar_> leftyfb: ends up that message
[15:24] <leftyfb> kallesbar_: are you sure you have an nvidia chipset?
[15:24] <kallesbar_> leftyfb: yes
[15:25] <kallesbar_> leftyfb: Card-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M]
[15:25] <leftyfb> kallesbar_: can you paste all of your terminal to pastebin?
[15:25] <nobitanobi> leftyfb: that did it!
[15:25] <nobitanobi> thanks a lot
[15:25] <Zalabaslea> :-)
[15:26] <mvvvv> kallesbar_, why don't you use the screen "proprietary drivers" from the system parameters of ubuntu ?
[15:26] <nobitanobi> how come cron didn't have access to `logrotate`?
[15:27] <leftyfb> nobitanobi: it doesn't have a $PATH by default
[15:27] <kallesbar> mvvvv: I like to, but how?
[15:28] <mr_boo> leftyfb: either "sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-*" or "sudo apt-get update" did it
[15:28] <mvvvv> kallesbar, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-proprietary-graphics-drivers-ubuntu-fedora-linux/
[15:28] <mr_boo> anyway many thanks leftyfb
[15:28] <Guest14523> I need help
[15:30] <leftyfb> Guest14523: you will not get help unless you ask a question
[15:32] <jnewt_> how do i snap windows to the side of a monitor when i have two monitors and dragging to the edge between the two?
[15:33] <leftyfb> jnewt_: try CTRL+<SUPER>+LEFT
 is "windows key" right?  doesn't work
[15:35] <leftyfb> jnewt_: are you trying to snap it to the right of a monitor that is to the left of the other monitor?
[15:35] <jnewt_> yeah
[15:36] <jnewt_> had to use win+arrow on windows, but doesn't work on ubuntu.
[15:37] <nacc> jnewt_: fwiw, works fine here
[15:37] <leftyfb> works fine here as well
[15:37] <leftyfb> on a dual monitor configuration
[15:38] <RonWhoCares> I just did a fresh install with Ubuntu 16.04.  My computer isn't sensing the things plugged into my USB powered hub.  Are there steps I can take to resolve this?
[15:39] <sslow> hi everybody
[15:39] <rud0lf> hi
[15:39] <jnewt_> ah crap.  i have ubuntu mate, any you guys probably have unity, so it's probably broken on the mate de not
[15:39] <jnewt_> should have lead with that
[15:39] <nacc> jnewt_: gnome, but sure
[15:39] <rud0lf> i have ubuntu xfce
[15:39] <leftyfb> jnewt_: i'm not running Unity and it works, but it is gnome classic
[15:40] <sslow> has anyone successfully connected an external tv-monitor to his own laptop via hdmi?
[15:40] <rud0lf> i tried in on live usb and fell in love with
[15:40] <leftyfb> jnewt_: but yes, mate has it's own way of doing things ... i'm sure you can configure it somewhere
[15:40] <nacc> rud0lf: do you see messages about devices being added in `dmesg` when you plug things into your hub?
[15:40] <leftyfb> sslow: ys
[15:40] <leftyfb> sslow: yes
[15:40] <nacc> rud0lf: sorry, not for you
[15:40] <rud0lf> np
[15:40] <nacc> RonWhoCares: do you see messages about devices being added in `dmesg` when you plug things into your hub?
[15:41] <sslow> the first time even if the resolution was not so good it worked
[15:42] <sslow> the second time, the imagine on tv started to "jump" , now it's completely black even if ubuntu still recognizes an external tv attached
[15:42] <RonWhoCares> it started this time
[15:42] <RonWhoCares> weird
[15:42] <RonWhoCares> I guess my question should be why is this "hit and miss"
[15:43] <nacc> RonWhoCares: external hubs can be underpowered if only over usb
[15:43] <nacc> RonWhoCares: and thus devices aren't actually being exposed
[15:43] <RonWhoCares> ok
[15:43] <sslow> maybe it could be helpful to know that i've got a geforce gr 520mx as video-card
[15:43] <nacc> RonWhoCares: without logs, it's impossible to debug, unfortunately
[15:43] <RonWhoCares> It is a powered hub, although I am waiting for the proper plug to arrive.  You are suggesting this will resolve itself
[15:44] <nacc> RonWhoCares: would be my guess, yeah, drviing multiple devices over USB doesn't tend to work great (ime)
[15:44] <sslow> errate corrige : geforce GT
[15:45] <mehdi> hello
[15:45] <kallesbar> mvvvv: I have kde desktop and there is not that additinal drivers tab??? Mentioned that document.
[15:46] <mehdi> hhhhhhhhh
[15:49] <RonWhoCares> nacc: I won't worry about it until after I get the new plug
[15:49] <RonWhoCares> tyhanks
[15:49] <nacc> RonWhoCares: seems reasonable
[15:50] <mvvvv> kallesbar, don't you have a kubuntu-driver-manager ?
[15:50] <Jon30> hey guys, i want to setup an ubuntu server that automatically backups a remote drive on a windows server machine. Can someone please recommend a utility for that?
[15:51] <kallesbar> mvvvv: yes i have, buut seems it can't find nothing. Ruunning it just
[15:52] <mvvvv> kallesbar, ok so try command ubuntu-drivers
[15:55] <mvvvv> kallesbar, try : sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[15:56] <leftyfb> Jon30: you could use samba/cifs to mount the drive to backup or run an ssh/rsync server on windows and use rsync to backup
[15:57] <kallesbar> mvvvv: running it seems to install nvidia-381
[15:57] <sslow> any hint?
[16:00] <mvvvv> kallesbar, I guess you have add this ppa : ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[16:00] <kallesbar> mvvvv: yes i have
[16:00] <mvvvv> kallesbar, it should be fine
[16:00] <suheri> hi everyone...
[16:00] <Devrim> I just updated packages on my ubuntu 16.04 box and now I'm getting this error when I do apt-get update/upgrade
[16:00] <Devrim> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[16:01] <scottjl> Devrim: yeah. dupe files. just delete it
[16:01] <scottjl> it has a few additional comment lines. blah.
[16:01] <Devrim> scottjl the diff looks like this
[16:01] <Devrim> https://paste.kthnxbai.xyz/?12ec715ad1eae62b#ccAkmF34zaPzvMnvSm83bIkJqgNKfR8VxnWTRm9/jxw=
[16:01] <kallesbar> mvvvv: it's installed. Should I try boot?
[16:02] <mvvvv> kallesbar, yes
[16:02] <Devrim> 50unattended-upgrades vs 50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist
[16:02] <scottjl> if you really want to keep it either merge the changes or copy it over your old one and delete the dist
[16:03] <Devrim> I'm not sure what it is so can't make the call to merge it or not. your advice is to just delete it? :p
[16:03] <Devrim> as long as my ubuntu box keeps working :D
[16:03] <scottjl> well i nuked mine on 100 or so boxes.
[16:03] <Devrim> kk, will delete it then :)
[16:03] <Devrim> ty
[16:04] <scottjl> it will probably happen again when they change the file again
[16:05] <Aprexer> Where can I get the download for ubuntu i686
[16:05] <Zalabaslea> hi
[16:05] <scottjl> pirate bay?
[16:05] <Zalabaslea> ubuntu.com
[16:05] <Aprexer> It's not on there
[16:05] <Aprexer> My aspire 3000 requires it
[16:05] <Zalabaslea> yes it is
[16:05] <Zalabaslea> check google
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> ubuntu.com works for me
[16:06] <Aprexer> only x86 is on there.
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> and you want x86
[16:06] <Aprexer> I need it for i686
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> eh i686
[16:06] <scottjl> you want x86_64
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> no
[16:06] <scottjl> sigh
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> he said i686.. its there too
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> i assure you, check it
[16:06] <oerheks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[16:06] <Zalabaslea> thanks
[16:07] <oerheks> Aprexer, i686 = x86
[16:07] <scottjl> what's the point in giving people answers if they're just going to tell you "no" ?
[16:08] <kallesbar> mvvvv: It seems to be stuck again
[16:08] <Zalabaslea> too much info
[16:08] <Zalabaslea> check wikipedia
[16:08] <oerheks> scottjl, what is the point answering that?
[16:08] <Zalabaslea> well................ maybe they are on a hurry
[16:08] <scottjl> no
[16:09] <Zalabaslea> yes / no / maybe
[16:09] <Zalabaslea> I use ubuntu 14.04
[16:09] <Zalabaslea> updated to 16.06 but net down
[16:09] <Zalabaslea> eh 16.04
[16:09]  * dan hello
[16:10] <Zalabaslea> hey dan
[16:11] <Aprexer> This kernal requires an x86-64 cpu, but only detected an i686 CPU.
[16:11] <mimo> kello
[16:11] <tgm4883> Aprexer: you grabbed the x86_64 ISO then
[16:11] <oerheks> Aprexer, there is a i386 version, use that
[16:11] <leftyfb> Aprexer: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[16:11] <Aprexer> ok thanks
[16:11] <leftyfb> Aprexer: that is for your pc
[16:11] <mimo> anybody else
[16:12] <leftyfb> Aprexer: i386 is the same as i686 as far as the iso goes
[16:12] <Aprexer> Found my old aspire 3000 so wanted to renew it.
[16:12] <mvvvv> kallesbar, how long are you using ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ? maybe you should remove it then remove nvidia-380 then re-apply ubuntu-drivers
[16:12] <leftyfb> Aprexer: btw, it's spelled kernel, not kernal
[16:12] <mimo> qq
[16:12] <mimo> 359901007
[16:12] <leftyfb> mimo: can we help you with something?
[16:13] <kallesbar> mvvvv: can't remember, but probably right after start
[16:13] <mimo> how canichange language
[16:13] <mvvvv> kallesbar, if you are not using one of the latest nvidia card you don't need it
[16:14] <leftyfb> mimo: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[16:14] <kallesbar> mvvvv: yes I know now. My bad to start using it
[16:14] <mimo> oh!thanks
[16:15] <webly> hi
[16:15] <webly> I installed the bind9 package in Ubuntu
[16:15] <webly> What is its service/systemd unit name?
[16:15] <webly> I can't find it
[16:15] <webly> I want to start the bind9 service in Ubuntu.
[16:16] <scottjl> should be systemctl start bind9.service
[16:17] <webly> scottjl: interestingly I cannot find it with service command
[16:17] <scottjl> systemctl | grep bind
[16:18] <oerheks> sudo systemctl enable bind9 && sudo systemctl start bind9 ... maybe you want sudo ufw allow Bind9 too https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-bind-as-a-private-network-dns-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[16:18] <Zalabaslea> bind9... hmmm
[16:18] <Zalabaslea> why you need 53 open?
[16:18] <Zalabaslea> yes thats it
[16:19] <BlenderProXpwned> I'm trying to identify the chipset of my ethernet card, I got the vendor ID and product ID listed on my askubuntu forum thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/915872/need-to-correctly-install-netgear-network-pccard-fa510-on-xubuntu-16-04/916810#916810 in order to install the right driver as right now is pretty pretty slow
[16:19] <oerheks> BlenderProXpwned, again: bad chipset
[16:19] <oerheks> good luck with that
[16:19] <BlenderProXpwned> oerheks, really so I'm done?
[16:20] <oerheks> BlenderProXpwned, i have no other answer, yes, it was broken back then, and never fixed
[16:21] <BlenderProXpwned> oerheks, wow you have good memory
[16:21] <oerheks> Not that much users with xp in their name ;-)
[16:21] <Zalabaslea> ;-)
[16:21] <Zalabaslea> my mom is dead
[16:21] <Zalabaslea> can you stop please winking
[16:22] <Zalabaslea> car accident.....
[16:22] <oerheks> Zalabaslea, sorry to hear that, please keep this channel free for support.
[16:22] <Zalabaslea> ohay. thanks.
[16:24] <kallesbar> mvvvv: I got back to laptop. ppa removed and now autoinstall.ok
[16:24] <gzunder> anyone here using xrdp? how the hell do i make it ask me for a password before making the rdp connection ?
[16:25] <oerheks> gzunder, don't store it in you keyring?
[16:26] <gzunder> oerheks: ... i just want to be asked for a password before seeing the login that xrdp makes
[16:27] <gzunder> like... rdp password, not systtem password
[16:27] <kallesbar> mvvvv: now it installed 375
[16:27] <oerheks> gzunder, so you want a password before it asks for a password .. never seen/heard of that before.
[16:28] <kallesbar> mvvvv: complained that possible missing firmware
[16:29] <gzunder> oerheks: when i connect to a windows machine for example, it doesnt connect the RDP unless i provide it with a user/pass... When i rdp to xrdp it connects and then it shows me a prompt to login
[16:29] <gzunder> oerheks:  in short i want to stop it before even showing that login screen (if possible)
[16:29] <mvvvv> kallesbar, about i915 ? it should not be a problem
[16:30] <kallesbar> mvvvv: yes that was it
[16:30] <scottjl> gzunder: https://linux.die.net/man/5/xrdp.ini ?
[16:30] <scottjl> put your pw in a ini file?
[16:30] <gzunder> scottjl: yeah had a look there... didnt help
[16:31] <mvvvv> kallesbar, are you on a skylake ?
[16:31] <scottjl> oh well. was a guess. i don't use xrdp
[16:31] <kallesbar> mvvvv: no
[16:31] <DexterF> hi
[16:32] <DexterF> 16.04LTS ships a 4.4. kernel and Xorg 1.1.8. I need 4.5 and 1.1.9 for a specific setup. any way to get this without leaving LTS? apart from "compile yourself"
[16:32] <DexterF> kernel I wouldn't mind, Xorg, then...
[16:33] <mvvvv> kallesbar, what is your processor ?
[16:34] <mvvvv> kallesbar, can you paste the exact messages ?
[16:35] <oerheks> DexterF, it would probably give issues, if you took zesty xorg for xenial https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server ... maybe you can build it yourself?
[16:35] <oerheks> i would upgrade, your issue is unreasonable
[16:36] <MentallyRetired> omfg I'm using mIRC for the first time in about 17 years
[16:37] <DexterF> mIRC still exists? :D
[16:37] <MentallyRetired> right?
[16:37] <MentallyRetired> nothing has changed
[16:38] <oerheks> MentallyRetired, so do you have an ubuntu support Q?
[16:38] <MentallyRetired> I do. I'm not in ubuntu at the moment but I was having trouble getting my 34" ultrawide to run at full resolution
[16:38] <DexterF> oerheks, I deviated from LTS too often to find ut the hard way I should not have, and 18.04 is a bit too far away. well, I'll see if I find a repos
[16:38] <kallesbar> mvvvv: this is my desktop running ubuntu on vm. The problematic laptop seems to stuck again
[16:39] <MentallyRetired> I could run it at a slightly lower res but not native. google didn't help much, but I may be searching for the wrong thing. any guidance would be appreciated
[16:40] <MentallyRetired> razer blade stealth is the laptop, LG 34UC88-B is the monitor
[16:40] <MentallyRetired> onboard intel graphics. all the support i found was for nvidia :(
[16:41] <mvvvv> kallesbar, https://askubuntu.com/questions/811453/w-possible-missing-firmware-for-module-i915-bpo-when-updating-initramfs/811487
[16:41] <oerheks> MentallyRetired, systemsettings > monitors, any option to change the resolution there?
[16:41] <MentallyRetired> yeah, it gives me a nice selection of resolutions
[16:43] <MentallyRetired> if I select the (recommended) resolution, 3440x1440, the monitor just goes black
[16:43] <MentallyRetired> and says no signal
[16:43] <MentallyRetired> anything less than native and it runs
[16:43] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, which intle cpu?
[16:43] <Kompliziert_> hello
[16:43] <Kompliziert_> i need some help with creating an zfs pool with encryption
[16:43] <MentallyRetired> @dexterF core i7 7500U
[16:44] <arooni> what should permissions be for ~/.local ?
[16:44] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, displayport?
[16:44] <MentallyRetired> HDMI
[16:45] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, can hdmi crank out 60fps at 34x14..? might be that xou need a reasonable modeline for 30 fps. I'd try DP if possible
[16:45] <MentallyRetired> hmm
[16:45] <oerheks> arooni, drwxrwxr-x   .local  so it is 775
[16:45] <MentallyRetired> I mean, it works on windows in native res
[16:46] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, ok. ubuntu version?
[16:46] <MentallyRetired> 16.04
[16:46] <MentallyRetired> not sure what build
[16:46] <MentallyRetired> downloaded last week. lol
[16:46] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, bit before the 34". maybe the intel video driver is not quite up to it yet
[16:46] <MentallyRetired> maybe
[16:46] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, I'd try a 17.10 live stick
[16:46] <MentallyRetired> oh nice idea
[16:46] <arooni> thanks oerheks
[16:47] <MentallyRetired> I'll give that a go
[16:47] <DexterF> or search its version combined with "3440x1440"
[16:47] <MentallyRetired> slight inconvenience to run it at less than native res
[16:47] <MentallyRetired> :)
[16:47] <MentallyRetired> new to ubuntu tho, so far its pretty good
[16:47] <MentallyRetired> I use it headless all the time for web development but never as a desktop
[16:50] <kallesbar> mvvvv: wait a sec I think its Skylake
[16:50] <mvvvv> kallesbar, ok so the link I gave you should help you
[16:50] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, new to ubuntu or linux in general?
[16:50] <kallesbar> mvvvv: yes I read it
[16:51] <MentallyRetired> DexterF both kinda. I've used linux for years in passing, only got into ubuntu server stuff in the last year or so
[16:52] <BlenderProXpwned> :)
[17:02] <arooni> question: i'm trying to get vim setup with a python plugin.  my vim has +python3 ;; and i have python3 3.5.2 and python 2 2.7.11 ;; yet it doesnt seem to run
[17:03] <leftyfb> sup arooni
[17:03] <arooni> hellllllllllllllllllllo :)
[17:08] <DexterF> MentallyRetired, well, since video drivers are linked to the kernel and to the Mesa libs etc you cannot just replace the video driver with a later version, at least not intel. How ever nv/amd do it with the binary drivers. one of linux' key weaknesses regarding desktop usability imo.
[17:09] <pavlos> arooni: does this help? https://www.fullstackpython.com/vim.html
[17:09] <DexterF> asking in the intel video channel probbaly is worth a shot, too. #intel-gfx I think
[17:12] <hashwagon> I'm looking for a catch-all command to flush an IP from either 1 of 3 network devices, but not to fail if two don't exist. Any thoughs on this? Such as: ip addr flush {eth0,eth1,eth2}.
[17:14] <leftyfb> hashwagon: you could write  script that would check first
[17:15] <leftyfb> hashwagon: you could look through /sys/class/net/*
[17:16] <hashwagon> Ah, that's a good idea thanks.
[17:17] <nacc> hashwagon: `echo "ip addr flush eth"{0\|\|,1\|\|,2}` ?
[17:18] <nacc> hashwagon: bash manipulation :)
[17:18] <nacc> hashwagon: not sure what you specifically mean, though, by "either 1 of 3" "two don't exist"
[17:23] <ZenBook3> Hello... just bought an Asus Zenbook 3... no CD, no USB, kind of nothing, just wifi... Yes, I'd probably share your views on these points, but now I want to install Ubuntu. Probably from Windows. I kind of remember there used to be a .exe installer. Is that still the case? What is thebest way to install Ubuntu in such case? :)
[17:24] <ducasse> ZenBook3: that installer ('wubi') is no longer developed/used.
[17:24] <ZenBook3> thanks ducasse. What would you recommend, then?
[17:24] <akik> ZenBook3: probably virtualbox
[17:25] <akik> ZenBook3: it doesn't have any usb ports?
[17:25] <ZenBook3> nah, I mean.... I'm wiping Windows entirely, don't want it at all, so I need a full install
[17:25] <hashwagon> nacc: So I'd be looking to run this on systems would have one of three network devices showing up as eno1, eth0 or enp9s0. I searching for a way to flush the IP of whatever device exists.
[17:26] <akik> ZenBook3: can you disconnect the storage device? put it into another machine, install, move
[17:26] <hashwagon> Sorry, I can't seem to type well today haha ^ Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
[17:26] <ZenBook3> some USB-c, but turns out they don't ship the adapter anymore, so I will probably need to order one, at some point (or leave without, in case I can manage just with the wifi)
[17:27] <akik> ZenBook3: ah ok so you're not faced with windows future. just need to buy some more stuff
[17:27] <ZenBook3> I might be able to do that. Not sure, as I haven't opened it yet. It's all so tiny-tiny-tiny... the smallest laptop I've ever seen, and I'd prefer to avoid opening it at this point, if there are alternative ways
[17:27] <nacc> hashwagon: does not passing any dev cause it to complain no device was passed?
[17:28] <ZenBook3> nono, no windows future... :)
[17:29] <hashwagon> nacc: If I run straight up ip addr flush I get Flush requires arguments
[17:29] <ZenBook3> I gave it a try after not using it for so many years. Still terrible. Wifi driver disconnects, new nonsense, keep saying no every 2 seconds it asks to share something new with Microsoft... :D
[17:29] <nacc> hashwagon: what version of ubuntu?
[17:29] <hashwagon> this is 16.04 server
[17:30] <leftyfb> ZenBook3: get the usb-c adapter and install from usb
[17:30] <hashwagon> running on two different systems and also vm's so that's where I'm getting different network devices
[17:30] <nacc> hashwagon: oh i see, flush explicitly reqquires arguments
[17:30] <leftyfb> ZenBook3: or get a usb-c ethernet adapter and build your own tftp server and do a pxe/network install
[17:30] <nacc> hashwagon: it's really trivial to just iterate on the `ip a` output, i'd think
[17:32] <sslow> hi everybody again!
[17:33] <sslow> has anyone ever experienced any issues connecting an external monitor to a laptop via hdmi ?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> sslow: best way to get your issue solved, is ask in channel with all your details
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !details | sslow
[17:34] <cloudbud> I am getting apt-key command not found
[17:34] <leftyfb> cloudbud: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:34] <cloudbud> leftyfb : how to check that ?
[17:34] <leftyfb> cloudbud: cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <sslow> lotuspsychje its very simple evene though my ubuntu 14.04 recognizes an external monitor ,this keeps on give me no signal message
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> sslow: have you tryed with xrandr --auto ?
[17:36] <leftyfb> sslow: you should update/reinstall with 16.04. You might have better luck
[17:36] <sslow> no i've never tried
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | sslow
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | sslow or install this
[17:37] <cloudbud> Leftyfb : its Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
[17:37] <sslow> i can't as i don't want run the risk to come across some compatibilty issue with some software i'm running
[17:37] <leftyfb> cloudbud: try #debian
[17:37] <sslow> ok
[17:37] <leftyfb> cloudbud: you're not running ubuntu
[17:38] <sslow> let's try arandr then
[17:38] <sslow> i'gonna keep you updated
[17:38] <leftyfb> cloudbud: since you're not running ubuntu, you probably won't have apt-key available to you
[17:38] <hashwagon> nacc: I need to get better with regex and scripting. Starting a 7 hour course on Linux Academy ha
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> sslow: hdmi cable is working also?
[17:38] <sslow> yes sir
[17:39] <cloudbud> leftyfb : can i install it ?
[17:39] <leftyfb> hashwagon: Can you install ubuntu? yes. Can you install apt-key (apt) from ubuntu on top of debian, I would not recommend it
[17:39] <nacc> leftyfb: for cloudbud ?
[17:39] <leftyfb> sorry, yes
[17:39] <leftyfb> cloudbud: ^
[17:40] <cloudbud> nacc leftyfb : no on debian
[17:40] <cloudbud> ?
[17:40] <cloudbud> can i install that apt-key
[17:40] <leftyfb> cloudbud: I would not recommend it.
[17:41] <leftyfb> cloudbud: whatever it is you're trying to accomplish with apt-key, you should see support for in #debian.
[17:41] <cloudbud> leftyfb : executing the command :
[17:41] <cloudbud> curl --silent https://app.stackdriver.com/RPM-GPG-KEY-stackdriver |apt-key add -
[17:41] <cloudbud> its not working
[17:41] <leftyfb> cloudbud: whatever it is you're trying to accomplish with apt-key, you should see support for in #debian.
[17:41] <nacc> cloudbud: you understand you are in the ubuntu support channel but not running ubuntu?
[17:42] <cloudbud> no body is replyting thr
[17:42] <leftyfb> cloudbud: why not install ubuntu?
[17:42] <mutante> in general, i would not  do anything  that involves  "curl .. | local command"
[17:42] <cloudbud> no
[17:43] <leftyfb> cloudbud: ok, good luck. Please seek support from #debian or with the Debian documentation or google.
[17:43] <croz> Also, is it easy to install GNOME? I saw they're getting rid of Unity so should I just switch to GNOME now?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> croz: 18.04 will have gnome by default
[17:44] <croz> whens tht coming out
[17:44] <leftyfb> croz: that is up to you. Unity will be supported for another 4 years on 16.04.
[17:44] <leftyfb> croz: 18.04 = 2018 / April
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> croz: its your own choice to try 17.10 alpha2 or install ubuntu-gnome right now
[17:44] <akik> croz: you can install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package
[17:44] <leftyfb> I would not recommend trying 17.10 unless you're finding/fixing bugs
[17:45] <sslow> we're making progress as the immage of my desktop appeared on tv coming and going for some seconds and then disappearing with the no signal message
[17:45] <croz> akik is it a simple process? im a noob
[17:45] <croz> and have a HiDPI display too. 4k 15"
[17:45] <croz> GTX 1050 just wanna be sure nothing is broken. Dell XPS 15 9650
[17:45] <akik> croz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop, then logout and log back in selecting the gnome session
[17:45] <leftyfb> sslow: what software are you running that you think might not be compatible with 16.04
[17:45] <sslow> gns3
[17:45] <root> hey whats up
[17:46] <leftyfb> sslow: gns3 is in 16.04
[17:46] <croz> wow that simple? dont need a dm or anything? any other windows manager u recommend over gnome?
[17:46] <leftyfb> version 0.8.7-2
[17:46] <sslow> i know
[17:46] <leftyfb> croz: it's personal preference
[17:46] <sslow> but i've experienced some issus with 16.04 on my desktop
[17:46] <psychoticwarrior> what up
[17:46] <akik> croz: the package system will handle the dependencies
[17:46] <sslow> that's why i was forced to use my laptop with 14.04
[17:46] <nacc> sslow: 'some issues'? details please.
[17:47] <leftyfb> sslow: You'd be better off diagnosing issues with 16.04 as opposed to the ones you're having with 14.04
[17:47] <sslow> leftyfb you're definetely right
[17:49] <psychoticwarrior> i have 16.04 what are you experiencing
[17:49] <leftyfb> they're gone
[17:49] <phos1> No matter what i set in my htaccess, my images and content are always coming back with an expires of 10 hours. How do I change that? Ubunut 14
[17:50] <cloudbud> then how to accomplish leftyfb : the curl command brings a key can i add it manually and where to add it ?
[17:50] <nacc> cloudbud: you are not on ubuntu, we can't support you here
[17:50] <leftyfb> phos1: did you install and enable the rewrite module?
[17:51] <leftyfb> cloudbud: You are not running Ubuntu. You will not get help here. I already told you, get help in #debian or from Debian documentation online at debian.org or from google
[17:51] <phos1> leftyfb: Yes, and rewrite is working as I”m running drupal and clean URL’s are working
[17:51] <leftyfb> phos1: look through logs, make sure your .htaccess has the correct permissions
[17:52] <psychoticwarrior> go to the var directory and look through issues
[17:52] <qswz> excuse me, pretty noob, can't I do `foo = 2` in a bar.sh file? it complains about 'foo' command not found
[17:53] <leftyfb> qswz: foo=2
[17:53] <qswz> ahh thanks
[17:53] <leftyfb> qswz: there's lots of tutorials online for bash/shell scripting
[17:54] <qswz> yea, thanks
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow__> !abs
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> tnx Jack_Sparrow__ usefull trigger
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow__> np
[17:58] <EriC^^> qswz: no spaces allowed
[17:59] <qswz> yep, too used to do it :)
[18:03] <admins_> ha
[18:03] <admins_> iaiiai
[18:13] <john_doe_jr> How do u deal w/ a file path that has a space in it on a crontab file?
[18:14] <nacc> john_doe_jr: escape the space (\ )
[18:14] <leftyfb> john_doe_jr: double quotes, escape character, put it in a script with the same or just rename the file
[18:14] <nacc> leftyfb: more complete answer ftw :)
[18:15] <leftyfb> john_doe_jr: also, the first result on google for "cron filename with space" bring up the same answers
[18:16] <leftyfb> they should really teach google in college
[18:16] <john_doe_jr> leftyfb: tried escape character and quoting
[18:17] <leftyfb> hell, grade school as well
[18:17] <leftyfb> john_doe_jr: if the name of the file you're calling in cron has a space in it, rename the file
[18:18] <john_doe_jr> leftyfb: it's Box Sync folder name
[18:19] <leftyfb> john_doe_jr: then write a script that does the calling/escaping for you and call that in cron
[18:26] <BlenderProXpwned> Can someone help me find the chipset of my network card? I have the product and vendor ids
[18:26] <BlenderProXpwned> and a bunch of info from lspci
[18:27] <Capprentice> the OUI shows who is the NIC manufacturer
[18:27] <Capprentice> the MAC ID.
[18:27] <leftyfb> BlenderProXpwned: lspci -vnn|grep -i net
[18:29] <BlenderProXpwned> Capprentice, you mean netgear? I want to know the chipset
[18:30] <akik> BlenderProXpwned: you didn't find the info in lspci?
[18:30] <rose_> hello
[18:30] <BlenderProXpwned> I'm gonna be answering from the laptop with rose as the nick
[18:30] <osmik> O.o
[18:31] <rose_> I have subsystem info do I need to give that out?
[18:31] <leftyfb> rose_: post the output of "lspci -vnn|grep -i net" to pastebin
[18:32] <kallesbar> hi, I still have problem where booting ends with black screen. It has something to do with nvidia 375 gpu driver, can anyone help me?
[18:32] <rose_> I got the vendor and product id from lspci too wow
[18:32] <rose_> leftyfb: k
[18:32] <osmik> great.
[18:32] <osmik> you can change it you know?
[18:33] <osmik> i meant the 8078:8181 VGA etc.. for plugins..its not hard
[18:34] <rose_> leftyfb: what is the pastebin website
[18:34] <rose_> debian?
[18:35] <leftyfb> rose_: pastebin.com
[18:38] <rose_> leftyfb: http://txt.do/d9hin can't do it on pastebin my links2 doesn't support that site
[18:39] <leftyfb> rose_: why do you need the chipset exactly?
[18:39] <akik> rose_: that device is supported by the tulip kernel module
[18:39] <rose_> leftyfb: to install it correctly
[18:40] <rose_> akik: is running at 1mbit instead of 100
[18:40] <akik> wow
[18:40] <rose_> I tried setting autoneg off and speed link to 100 but stil slow
[18:40] <rose_> still at 1mbit
[18:41] <akik> rose_: can you see the info through ethtool?
[18:41] <rose_> akik: I tried before wait
[18:42] <leftyfb> ah
[18:42] <leftyfb> you're MiguelFuller from yesterday
[18:42] <rose_> akik: it just says Supports Wake-on: d
[18:42] <rose_> Wake-on: d
[18:42] <rose_> nothing else
[18:42] <akik> rose_: the module includes a full_duplex option
[18:43] <rose_> akik: by autoneg?
[18:43] <leftyfb> rose_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:43] <rose_> 16.04
[18:44] <akik> rose_: you can tell options to kernel modules through modprobe (i.e. create /etc/modprobe.d/tulip.conf and add an options line there) have you tried another ethernet cable?
[18:44] <rose_> my intefaces file for enp2s0 only has 2 lines for it auto and iface inet dhcp
[18:45] <leftyfb> that's all you need
[18:45] <leftyfb> rose_: lspci -knn | grep Net -A3
[18:46] <rose_> akik: I will look
[18:46] <rose_> leftyfb: wait
[18:47] <durino> after a hiatus of many years I am getting back to Linux. I need to reacquaint myself with this new world (systemd, containers, what not). what is the best source for quality docs about ubuntu (as reference, I hold LWN in high esteem) ?
[18:47] <rose_> leftyfb: http://txt.do/d9he6
[18:47] <nacc> durino: well, i mean systemd and containers are not ubuntu specific
[18:47] <akik> rose_: if you test the module option the line to add to /etc/modprobe.d/tulip.conf is "options tulip full_duplex=1"
[18:47] <nacc> durino: so lwn is probably a good resource :)
[18:48] <durino> nacc: noted, agreed
[18:48] <rose_> leftyfb: for some reason is giving me some usb stuff where this card is pmcia, must be my usb2 pmcica card on stop of it
[18:48] <leftyfb> rose_: sorry no idea. All I find online is someone from 3 days ago with your same issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/915872/need-to-correctly-install-netgear-network-pccard-fa510-on-xubuntu-16-04
[18:48] <leftyfb> rose_: ignore that part about usb
[18:48] <durino> nacc: changing the question. what is the best source of documentation about ubuntu ? wiki ?
[18:49] <nacc> durino: wiki, help.ubuntu.com, forums, for server there is serverguide
[18:49] <leftyfb> rose_: try installing the latest kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 , reboot and see if it makes a differnce
[18:49] <leftyfb> durino: google
[18:49] <rose_> akik: can I set the speed manually too?
[18:49] <durino> nacc: ty
[18:50] <durino> leftyfb: ty
[18:50] <akik> rose_: i don't think so but you can see the module options with "modinfo tulip"
[18:50] <nacc> leftyfb: we try to not refer users to google :) (there's a bot faq specifying that we don't)
[18:50] <akik> the tulip module is very old
[18:51] <kallesbar> hi, I still have problem where booting ends with black screen. It has something to do with nvidia 375 gpu driver, can anyone help me?
[18:51] <cloudbud> how to remove an added  repo curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list https://repo.stackdriver.com/jessie.list
[18:51] <leftyfb> nacc: I always will. But I will first do the search myself to make sure it comes up fine. I'll either post a lmgtfy link with the correct search terms with the answer in the first few results or a link from the results directly. It's just a matter of learning HOW to search google properly.
[18:51] <akik> kallesbar: did you test adding "nomodeset" kernel parameter?
[18:52] <leftyfb> cloudbud: YOU WILL NOT GET HELP HERE WITH DEBIAN.
[18:52] <cloudbud> its ubuntu now
[18:52] <leftyfb> cloudbud: cat /etc/issue
[18:52] <cloudbud> i added this want to remove this
[18:53] <kallesbar> its already there needed it from the installation, now some update came coouple days ago
[18:53] <leftyfb> cloudbud: please post the results from that file
[18:53] <nacc> leftyfb: understood, just referring to !google
[18:54] <cloudbud> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[18:54] <kallesbar> akik: and promlem started
[18:54] <akik> kallesbar: i wonder if you can downgrade the nvidia module?
[18:54] <cloudbud> leftyfb
[18:54] <leftyfb> cloudbud: you installed a fresh copy of a ubuntu from 6 releases ago?
[18:55] <cloudbud> im using my office machine now
[18:55] <akik> leftyfb: 14.04 is fully supported
[18:55] <leftyfb> akik: I know
[18:55] <cloudbud> repo curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list https://repo.stackdriver.com/jessie.list how to remove this
[18:55] <kallesbar> akik: i have tried install nvidia-367 ex. but it still get something from nvidia-375 and booting fails
[18:56] <rose_> akik: down where parm is? are those the only options?
[18:56] <Pici> cloudbud: did you do anything after that?
[18:56] <leftyfb> cloudbud: remove what? What is that exactly? What are you trying to do?
[18:56] <cloudbud> i have added repo curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list https://repo.stackdriver.com/jessie.list
[18:56] <Pici> cloudbud: did you do anything after that?
[18:56] <leftyfb> cloudbud: you added that where?
[18:56] <akik> rose_: yes those are the options for the kernel module. but if ethtool works with that device you could try setting the speed with it
[18:56] <cloudbud> curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list https://repo.stackdriver.com/trusty.list
[18:56] <cloudbud> just executd command
[18:56] <leftyfb> cloudbud: repo is not a command
[18:57] <leftyfb> ok
[18:57] <kallesbar> akik: can only get it up when remove 375 driver
[18:57] <leftyfb> cloudbud: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver
[18:57] <cloudbud> so i want to install stackdriver from trsyty
[18:57] <cloudbud> then ?
[18:57] <leftyfb> cloudbud: that's it, repo is gone
[18:57] <cloudbud> then again add trysty one ???
[18:57] <akik> kallesbar: i must been lucky then. i have nvidia cards but not that kind of problem
[18:58] <leftyfb> cloudbud: I guess? If that's what you're going for
[18:58] <leftyfb> cloudbud: you do know you need to do this with sudo or as root righT?
[18:58] <kallesbar> akik: i have geforce m960
[18:58] <leftyfb> cloudbud: otherwise you'll get permission denied trying to write to anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:59] <akik> kallesbar: the log file for the x session is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. check if you see something there
[18:59] <cloudbud> i should again execute curl -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list https://repo.stackdriver.com/trusty.list ?
[18:59] <leftyfb> cloudbud: I don't know, what does the documentation tell you?
[19:01] <cloudbud> it says no such file directory
[19:02] <leftyfb> cloudbud: the documentation says "no such file directory"?
[19:02] <cloudbud> no when i do rm
[19:02] <kallesbar> akik: quite a lot. any specific to look
[19:02] <leftyfb> cloudbud: then it was never written, because you probably didn't use sudo or run as root
[19:02] <cloudbud> im roor
[19:03] <leftyfb> roor?
[19:03] <cloudbud> root
[19:03] <leftyfb> https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder579/250x250/56958579.jpg
[19:03] <akik> kallesbar: see what mode it's trying to set
[19:03] <leftyfb> sorry, had to
[19:04] <leftyfb> cloudbud: ok, move on then, add your trusty repo per the documentation
[19:04] <akik> kallesbar: it says "Setting mode"
[19:04] <akik> kallesbar: but if you know the previous version worked, i'd try to install it
[19:05] <cloudbud> shall i execute rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stackdriver.list ( appended list ) leftyfb ?
[19:06] <leftyfb> :/
[19:06] <leftyfb> cloudbud: didn't we already go through this?
[19:06] <kallesbar> akik: i had 375 already, but something update to came and now it do not work
[19:06] <leftyfb> cloudbud: isn't that how you got "no such file directory"?
[19:06] <cloudbud> no :|
[19:07] <leftyfb> no what?
[19:07] <leftyfb> cloudbud: just follow your documentation
[19:07] <akik> kallesbar: you can find the apt logs in /var/log/apt/history.log if you want to see what changed
[19:13] <BlenderProXpwned> akik, the full_duplex=1 option should autorun during boot right
[19:14] <BlenderProXpwned> leftyfb, I'll try installing a dif kernel like you said
[19:15] <kallesbar> akik: damn long log and I have done so much today to fix this. Can't find out anymore
[19:15] <akik> BlenderProXpwned: when that kernel module is loaded
[19:18] <anddam> rfkill on a 16.04 isn't storing the proper status on shutdown so on reboot I get a blocked wifi
[19:18] <kallesbar_> akik: i have this in inxi output: isplay Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: fbdev (unloaded: vesa) FAILED: nouveau
[19:18] <anddam> this is unconvenient since this is a wifi headless machine, how can I debug the issue?
[19:18] <akik> kallesbar_: inxi -Gx ?
[19:18] <kallesbar_> inxi -Gx
[19:19] <leftyfb> anddam: why do you need rfkill at all?
[19:19] <akik> kallesbar_: looks like your nvidia module is not in use
[19:19] <anddam> leftyfb: I don't, I found that there already when I setup the system
[19:19] <leftyfb> anddam: I use wpa_supplicant ... works fine
[19:20] <anddam> leftyfb: I mean I learned what that was since I wasn't able to turn the interface up with ip
[19:20] <anddam> leftyfb: how are those related?
[19:20] <ocn> hi there, i would like to install this package http://fping.org/ on ubuntu 14.04 LTS and was wondering what do i type in bash shell to install this?
[19:20] <anddam> I use wpa_supplicant as wel
[19:20] <kallesbar> akik: yes ofcourse it not. I had to remove nvidia driver 375 to boot it up. There is no nvidia driver at all
[19:20] <anddam> leftyfb: ^
[19:20] <anddam> well*
[19:20] <akik> kallesbar: are you planning to use nouveau then?
[19:20] <leftyfb> anddam: ok? Setup your wpasupplicant and /etc/network/interfaces properly and your machine will boot connected to your wifi just fine
[19:21] <anddam> leftyfb: that's fase
[19:21] <anddam> false
[19:21] <anddam> geez, this keyboard with a broken key switch
[19:21] <leftyfb> anddam: that is not false. I'm using it
[19:21] <kallesbar> akik: i got only at moment 800x600, so something need to be done
[19:21] <akik> kallesbar: maybe nouveau is disabled in /etc/modprobe.d/*
[19:22] <kallesbar> akik: but not if it do not help
[19:22] <BlenderProXpwned> leftyfb, why the hwe variant of the kernel? can't I just do upgrade to xubuntu
[19:22] <anddam> leftyfb: what you mean is it works on your system, but expand that to a general statement is a hard jump. In fact I setup my wpa_supplicant, configured the interfaces file to use that with auto dhcp and it works *as long as I unlock the interface in rfkill first*
[19:23] <anddam> leftyfb: I mean unless wpa_supplicant isn't aware of rfkil and able to unlock it on its own, that I couldn't find how to do
[19:23] <omegarogue2> f you you do an install of kubuntu onto a usb instead of a harddrive would that be persistent?
[19:23] <nacc> anddam: wpa_supplicant is of course unaware of rfkill
[19:23] <omegarogue2> if*
[19:23] <nacc> anddam: if you need to use rfkill all the time, i thnk your hardware is buggy
[19:24] <Jordan_U> anddam: https://askubuntu.com/questions/673950/i-have-to-issue-rfkill-unblock-wifi-at-every-boot
[19:24] <anddam> leftyfb: somehow rfkill isn't storing the proper value at shutdown, like it 's supposed to do per docs. I even went to the system dir where rfkill stores its configuration, and manually set the files, one per interface and per hw/sw variant
[19:24] <anddam> on reboot it overrode those
[19:24] <ioria> !info fping | ocn
[19:25] <kallesbar> akik: its not there
[19:25] <omegarogue2> f you you do an install of kubuntu onto a usb instead of a harddrive would that be persistent?
[19:25] <omegarogue2> ?
[19:25] <BlenderProXpwned> my box is doing some linux-firmware upgrade as part of the apt-get upgrade thing, you think that package contains updated drivers? like for sound and the nic
[19:25] <anddam> Jordan_U: I've seen that and solutions with manual unblock on rc.local as well, that's not a "proper" solution tho'
[19:26] <ioria> ocn, btw, that is a tarball , you need to decompress it and build it ... but the pkg it's in the ubuntu repo so install from it, unless you have a specific need
[19:26] <anddam> oh I tried the rfkill-store script as well
[19:26] <anddam> I was interested in debugging this
[19:26] <nacc> !persistent | omegarogue2
[19:26] <leftyfb> anddam: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24606502/
[19:26] <cloudbud> i have added a string in debconf-set-selections how can i retrive that
[19:26] <akik> kallesbar: does "sudo modprobe nouveau" work?
[19:27] <leftyfb> anddam: that is part of my kickstart file for building robots that run completely headless and connect to only wifi
[19:27] <nacc> cloudbud: debconf-get-selections?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> anddam: Please pastebin the contents of any files in /var/lib/systemd/rfkill/ .
[19:27] <omegarogue2> my question isn't asnwered there
[19:27] <leftyfb> anddam: run through those things and you'll be fine. I never even heard of rfkill until this week and don't ever have a need for it
[19:28] <ocn> ioria: ohh
[19:28] <anddam> leftyfb: no offense but that doesn't make you qualified to debug what's an obvious rfkill misbehavior here
[19:28] <anddam> Jordan_U: pastebin coming
[19:28] <Jordan_U> omegarogue2: If your question isn't answered it could mean that it was simply missed or that nobody knew the answer. I'd say generally it's OK to repeat after about 5 minutes the first time you get no answer, then maybe every half hour to an hour for later repeats.
[19:29] <leftyfb> anddam: What I'm telling you is, you don't need to mess with rfkill at all. Just have those things setup and you should be fine without having to mess with rfkill.
[19:30] <ioria> !persistent | omegarogue2
[19:30] <nacc> leftyfb: I *think* anddam's hardware is misbehaving and softlocking on each boot
[19:30] <nacc> leftyfb: it's been known to happen, at least
[19:30] <leftyfb> nacc: probably because he's messing with rfkill and doesn't need to
[19:30] <Jordan_U> leftyfb: anddam has said that they only ended up using rfkill because "not messing with it at all" left them with blocked wifi. Denying their experience without constructive feedback is not helpful.
[19:30] <nacc> leftyfb: it's possible, my recollection was that it happened before anddam did any modifications
[19:30] <ioria> or probably a subsystem module is blocking
[19:31] <nacc> leftyfb: and their modifications were to try and workaround it
[19:31] <kallesbar> akik: yes command works, but still failed and nor in directory
[19:31] <anddam> nacc: it's a Intel NUC, the celeron N2820 one
[19:31] <leftyfb> heh
[19:32] <Barones> I'm running whereis gns3-gui and it returns gns3-gui:
[19:32] <ksalman1> heya, has anybody gotten Apple Trackpad 2 to work with Ubuntu 16 via bluetooth? I tried the bluetoothctl utility and I can pair and trust it but when I try to connect it fails
[19:32] <leftyfb> I'm staring at 2 Intel NUC's at the moment. One of which I've been using on a daily basis at work to build a headless robot
[19:32] <nacc> leftyfb: :)
[19:32] <nacc> leftyfb: could it be a firmware issue on the NUC?
[19:32] <Barones> I need the path to create a launcher
[19:33] <anddam> Jordan_U: the content is pretty simple and not requiring a pastebin,  pci-0000:00:14.0-usb-0:3:1.0:bluetooth is 1 and pci-0000:01:00.0:wlan is 0
[19:33] <leftyfb> Intel Corporation Wireless 7260
[19:33] <leftyfb> that is the wifi chipset
[19:33] <Jordan_U> leftyfb: That doesn't discount anddam's experience. Different hardware is different. Just because you don't experience a problem doesn't mean that nobody else does.
[19:33] <leftyfb> anddam: what is your wireless chipset?
[19:33] <Barones> I'm running whereis gns3-gui and it returns gns3-gui: what does : mean? Where can I get the application path ?
[19:34] <ioria> !info gns3-gui
[19:34] <nacc> Barones: i believe that means it does not find such a binary
[19:34] <ioria> !info gns3
[19:34] <kallesbar> akik: I can troubleshoot later that nouveau, but noe it would be good to get nvidia working
[19:34] <anddam> leftyfb, Jordan_U, nacc: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)
[19:34] <leftyfb> Barones: type "which gns3"
[19:34] <leftyfb> anddam: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)
[19:34] <Barones> leftyfb, thanks
[19:35] <nacc> leftyfb: that looks like a rather different rev?
[19:36] <anddam> leftyfb, Jordan_U, nacc:   what strikes me as odd is that systemd-rfkil.service(8) says "Load and save the RF kill  switch state at boot and change" so I get that it should actually be saved
[19:36] <akik> kallesbar: sorry i have to go. but there's more knowledge people here
[19:36] <leftyfb> nacc: sure, but I can almost guarantee you that isn't the issue. But whatever, I can only give a possible solution. I can't force anyone to try it instead of spending hours troubleshooting manual tasks that aren't necessary
[19:36] <kallesbar> akik: ok, thaks you, anyone else can help me
[19:36] <leftyfb> btw, I don't even have rfkill installed
[19:36] <ioria> kallesbar, on what ?
[19:37] <anddam> Jordan_U: btw I stand corrected, I was looking at my current system rather than the one being discussed, the latter has 0, 0, 0, 0
[19:38] <kallesbar> ioria: ha have laptop and it nvidia-375 driver do not work, only way to get ubuntu up is remove nvidia-375 driver
[19:38] <Jordan_U> anddam: And what are the filenames?
[19:38] <ioria> kallesbar, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[19:38] <anddam> Jordan_U: in files pci-0000:00:14.0-usb-0:4:1.0:bluetooth  pci-0000:00:14.0-usb-0:4:1.0:wlan  pci-0000:02:00.0:bluetooth  pci-0000:02:00.0:wlan
[19:39] <anddam> that
[19:39] <kallesbar_> lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[19:39] <anddam> that's hw and sw status for both bt and wifi, from what I get
[19:39] <ioria> kallesbar, poste the output
[19:39] <Jordan_U> anddam: OK. Do you have two wireless cards then, one internal and one USB?
[19:39] <anddam> not sure about the "usb" part, but I can see the corresponding files change with rfkill
[19:39] <kallesbar> ioria: oops wrong screen
[19:40] <anddam> Jordan_U: no, just the one miniPCIe
[19:40] <kallesbar_> kapa@laptop1:/etc/modprobe.d$ lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[19:40] <kallesbar_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Integrated Graphics (rev 06)
[19:40] <kallesbar_>         Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Skylake Integrated Graphics
[19:40] <kallesbar_>         Kernel modules: i915
[19:40] <ocn> ioria: Is there a way to ping 2 ip address at the same time in bash shell?
[19:40] <ioria> kallesbar, not here, on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:41] <Jordan_U> anddam: "systemctl status systemd-rfkill"
[19:41] <kallesbar> ioria: how to paste command output, remind me
[19:41] <ioria> ocn with two terminal tabs ? :þ
[19:41] <anddam> Jordan_U: oh, it's dead
[19:41] <anddam> but I did try it with the service active
[19:41] <ioria> kallesbar, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2 | pastebinit
[19:42] <anddam> Jordan_U: the death reason could be usefull tho
[19:42] <anddam> Main PID: 3134 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[19:42] <ioria> kallesbar,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:42] <anddam> odd, it exited with success
[19:42] <ocn> ioria: with only 1 terminal window? :p (btw, if there is a way to open two terminal tabs, how? :p)
[19:42] <anddam> Jordan_U: how do I get the unit file path for a loaded service?
[19:42] <Jordan_U> anddam: Which it should. It's a quick service, not a long lasting daemon.
[19:42] <anddam> ah ok
[19:43] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606581/
[19:43] <ioria> ocn, come on
[19:43] <mishka> hey there
[19:43] <anddam> so it has a hook for shutdown and booting, I guess, where it'll do the store and restore of config
[19:43] <anddam> Jordan_U: ^
[19:43] <ioria> kallesbar,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:43] <Jordan_U> anddam: systemctl cat systemd-rfkill.service
[19:43] <Jordan_U> anddam: (To see the path and content of any given systemd service. I don't need to see yours)
[19:44] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606591/
[19:44] <ioria> kallesbar,  are you using nomodeset ?
[19:44] <anddam> Jordan_U: btw I just confirmed the pci-[…]-usb- files are for the soft kill flags
[19:45] <kallesbar> ioria: yes it was already needed in start installation
[19:45] <ioria> kallesbar,  can't you boot without it ?
[19:45] <ocn> ioria: i am connected to a ubuntu machine remotely through ssh... so i don't have access to gui only bash cli. i guess i could open 2 ssh windows? not sure if it allows that...
[19:46] <kallesbar> ioria: no I can't. It have to be there
[19:46] <nacc> ocn: you can of course ssh in multiple times
[19:46] <anddam> Jordan_U: the unit is the default one (I guess), I see the Before and After target in fact
[19:46] <ioria> kallesbar,  sudo lshw -C Video | pastebinit
[19:47] <anddam> maybe the kernel arguments is wrong
[19:47] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606598/
[19:47] <ioria> kallesbar,  ok, GTX 960M
[19:47] <ducasse> ocn: or use tmux with split panes
[19:47] <anddam> how do I print kernel arguments?
[19:48] <nacc> anddam: cat /proc/cmdline ?
[19:48] <ioria> kallesbar,  so, where you set nomodeset in grub on in /etc/default/grub ?
[19:48] <kallesbar> ioria: yes that is it
[19:48] <ioria> kallesbar,  so, where you set nomodeset in grub on in /etc/default/grub ?
[19:48] <anddam> nacc: yep, no systemd.restore_state=  there
[19:48] <ocn> ok, i think i see the issue now. but it isn't an ubuntu issue :'( ... I am on a chromebook, and on chromeOS... the secure shell app won't let me open more than 1 terminal/console? :(
[19:49] <nacc> anddam: for systemd units, you can of course run them manaully, and the command the service references by hand to debug
[19:49] <Jordan_U> anddam: Try asking in #systemd .
[19:49] <kallesbar> ioria: yes there it is, just checked
[19:49] <ioria> kallesbar,  where ?
[19:49] <anddam> nacc: that's what I'm doing now
[19:49] <nacc> anddam: good luck :)
[19:50] <anddam> I'm likely cutting myself off the headless machine
[19:50] <anddam> thanks all for the info
[19:50] <anddam> at least I got confirmed it's odd
[19:50] <kallesbar_> ioria: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[19:50] <anddam> I've been trying to determine that for a few days now
[19:50] <ioria> kallesbar,  ok, sudo apt-get purge nvidia* and reboot
[19:51] <januzaj> good info
[19:51] <ioria> kallesbar,  note the '*?
[19:51] <anddam> I've read other distro have a template service to set what has to go up and what not, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to follow that approach
[19:52] <kallesbar> ioria: noticed, booting now
[19:52] <leftyfb> anddam: you should really try what I gave you. It works on prettymuch the exact same hardware you're running. What's another 10 minutes out of the days you've spent on it so far? Worse case, it doesn't work and you're not worse off.
[19:53] <leftyfb> anddam: I don't even have rfkill installed and it's all working fine
[19:54] <anddam> did you remove it on purpose?
[19:54] <leftyfb> no
[19:54] <anddam> it should come with systemd
[19:54] <anddam> my issue is that at boot whatever setting I'm going to use is going to see the wifi card blocked
[19:55] <Jordan_U> leftyfb: rfkill is part of all of the *-desktop tasks .
[19:55] <anddam> rfkill is providing the same feature as the hw kill button, but on a sw level
[19:55] <leftyfb> anddam: or you could just try what I posted
[19:56] <leftyfb> don't see why you're so much against it
[19:56] <anddam> because it's at a much higher levell
[19:57] <anddam> also my wpa_supplicant setup is aready proper
[19:57] <anddam> already
[19:57] <anddam> I'm connected to the box via wifi right now
[19:58] <anddam> I don't get what you'd think would unblock the device in that setup, I'm re-reading the pastebin right now
[19:59] <Jordan_U> anddam: I think that leftyfb is implying that rfkill is what is blocking the device in the first place, which is possible (not idea how likely it is).
[19:59] <Jordan_U> s/not/no/
[20:00] <kallesbar> ioria: its now up again, what next?
[20:01] <ioria> kallesbar,  ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit
[20:01] <anddam> once I connect the keyboard and mouse I give "rfkil unblock wifi; ifup wlp2s0" and I got networking
[20:02] <anddam> I mean I think rfkil is what's blocking the device in first place as wel
[20:02] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606639/
[20:02] <ioria> kallesbar_,  have you added the graphics-drivers  ppa  ?
[20:03] <kallesbar> ioria: I had it, but it is now removed
[20:03] <leftyfb> anddam: maybe the problem is wpasupplicant is trying to start before the interface is fully up? That's what half of my pastebin fixes
[20:04] <ioria> kallesbar_,  have you disabled secure boot ?
[20:04] <kallesbar> ioria: yes I have, shoud I enable it back?
[20:05] <leftyfb> anddam: maybe you made an assumption at some point in the beginning that brought you down this road that lead you to rfkill and now you're not looking in the right places. Regardless of what some tools tell you about symptoms
[20:05] <BlenderProXpwned> leftyfb, tried to install the linux-image-generic-hwe but It said I already had the latest version. I'll just go buy a new gigabit pcmcia card any suggestions?
[20:05] <ioria> kallesbar_,  no...   uanme -r ?
[20:05] <ioria> kallesbar_,  uname -r
[20:06] <kallesbar_> ioria: 4.8.0-52-generic
[20:06] <ioria> kallesbar_,  xenial 16.04.2 ?
[20:06] <anddam> leftyfb: I'm not using a service for wpa_supplicant, I'm using pointing the stanza for the wireless device to point to the wpa_supplicant file created with wpa_passphrase
[20:07] <kallesbar> It is 16.04.2 LTS, so think so
[20:07] <anddam> leftyfb: also on reboot I can see the Wireless LAN in rfkill list output saying  Soft blocked: no    again
[20:07] <leftyfb> anddam: why not give using the service a go?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> anddam: I still recommend asking about this in #systemd .
[20:08] <kallesbar> ioria: it is 16.04.2 LTS, so yes i think
[20:08] <ioria> kallesbar_,  ok, go in dash - additional drivers - and try to reinstall 375; if it fails we need to purge it again and try 381 for the ppa
[20:08] <anddam> interesting test: I manually changed the content of the bluetooth soft kill file from 1 to 0, then monitored the rfkill list output with watch
[20:09] <kallesbar> ioria: it is not dash, i have kubuntu, kde
[20:09] <anddam> executing /lib/systemd/systemd-rfkill process actually followed the files content and changed the bluetooth software status from blocked to unblocked
[20:09] <ioria> kallesbar_,   find the drivers utility , frankly i don't know where it is on kde
[20:10] <kallesbar> ioria: there is driver manager on system settings
[20:10] <ioria> kallesbar_,   yeah
[20:11] <kallesbar> ioria: it's collecting information and if I remember right it never complete
[20:12] <kallesbar> ioria: can I use ubuntu-drivers autoinstal or something
[20:12] <ioria> kallesbar_,   yes, sure
[20:13] <ioria> kallesbar_,   but it's the same
[20:13] <anddam> leftyfb: I don't like the "blind" approach much, "I'm not sure why but I it could work so it's worth a try"
[20:13] <anddam> if eventually I got frustrated enough I may go that route
[20:13] <anddam> thanks all for the info
[20:13] <leftyfb> anddam: yeah, I much prefer chasing dragons than having my stuff work and moving onto being productive
[20:14] <kallesbar> ioria: not exact. it just works
[20:14] <ioria> kallesbar_,   ok, remove nomodeset for /etc/default/grub , run sudo update-grub and reboot
[20:15] <anddam> leftyfb: what if the goal is learning how the system works or why it is misbehaving?
[20:15] <kallesbar> ioria: wait still installing drivers
[20:15] <ioria> ok
[20:15] <leftyfb> anddam: a good place to start is by having control
[20:15] <leftyfb> sorry, "a console"
[20:15] <leftyfb> ugh
[20:15] <leftyfb> sorry, "a control"
[20:15] <leftyfb> juggling many things at once
[20:16] <kallesbar_> ioria: /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[20:16] <kallesbar_> ioria: only complain
[20:17] <ioria> kallesbar_,   looks like a bug in 375 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1662860
[20:17] <anddam> leftyfb: I'm not sure I understand that even after the second correction
[20:17] <pierolas> hellooo
[20:17] <ioria> kallesbar_,   try 381 from ppa, firts purge nvidia*
[20:18] <Jordan_U> anddam: The saving and restoring is being done by a systemd service. If you want to understand it, I still think asking in #systemd is the way to go.
[20:18] <leftyfb> anddam: a control environment is one that is "clean" or in this case, properly setup and working so you can compare to the broken environment to see what the differences are and why it's broken
[20:19] <anddam> Jordan_U: duly noted
[20:19] <ioria> kallesbar_,   sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ;sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-381
[20:20] <kallesbar_> ioria: purge says http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606701/
[20:20] <anddam> leftyfb: I see, given it's a headless system using wifi _with wifi issues_ I'd take the "have a console" as well, since I need to physically plug a monitor and a keyboard there
[20:20] <ioria> kallesbar_,  mmm. the autoinstall is still running ?
[20:21] <leftyfb> anddam: no, "a control" . As in controlled environment. As in working. As in, run though my setup so you get to a full functional state and then if you want to learn from there you can watch logs and rfkill and outputs and compare things from there
[20:21] <kallesbar_> ioria: no it's completed, but puge i got a few lines of this E: Unable to locate package nvidia-375_hybrid.conf
[20:22] <ioria> kallesbar,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[20:22] <kallesbar_> it's not visible pastepinit
[20:22] <pierolas> how can i play a voice on irssi???
[20:22] <ioria> kallesbar,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia     ... that is blank ?
[20:23] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606715/
[20:24] <ioria> kallesbar,  sudo apt purge nvidia*
[20:26] <kallesbar_> ioria: still it says something like this E: Unable to locate package nvidia-375_hybrid.conf
[20:26] <anddam> leftyfb: I get it, I was noticing that even the first, wrong, correction you made would have coincidentally been appropriate
[20:26] <anddam> a sort of pun
[20:29] <ioria> kallesbar,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit   again
[20:31] <kallesbar_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24606743/
[20:31] <ioria> kallesbar,  ls /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-375_hybrid.conf
[20:31] <kallesbar> ioria: should I apt remove it first
[20:32] <ioria> kallesbar,  purge should work, but let's try
[20:32] <kallesbar_> ioria: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-375_hybrid.conf
[20:33] <kallesbar_> ioria: it's still there I remove it
[20:34] <ioria> kallesbar,  reboot
[20:35] <kallesbar> ioria: i removed it and now purge worked this now empty dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[20:36] <ioria> kallesbar,  ok
[20:36] <ioria> kallesbar_,   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-381
[20:39] <kallesbar> ioria: i got 381 installed did not see eny errors or something interasting boot now?
[20:40] <ioria> kallesbar_,   you need to remove nomodeset and run sudo update-grub
[20:40] <kallesbar> ioria: ok, forgot already I do it
[20:41] <ioria> kallesbar_,   already did it ?
[20:42] <RBoreal_Frippery> trying to compile pidgin I cant get it to find farstream
[20:43] <kallesbar> ioria: done, now boot?
[20:43] <RBoreal_Frippery> how can I tell pidgins ./configure where the farstream library has been installed?
[20:43] <ioria> kallesbar_,   let's try... if it fails open a console (alt-ctrl-f1) a purge again :(
[20:44] <kallesbar> ioria: ok. booting wait a sec
[20:46] <kallesbar> ioria: good news it is ok now, great thanks!
[20:46] <ioria> kallesbar_,   ok, victory dance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ueJ4-lTa1s
[20:49] <kallesbar> ioria: haha, nice dance
[20:49] <ioria> kallesbar_,   lol, good job , bye
[20:50] <kallesbar> ioria: i already tried that 381 driver befor, but didn't remove nomodeset
[20:54] <ailath> Hello people
[20:55] <grkblood13> how do you install wpasupplicant on server 16.10?
[20:55] <grkblood13> apt-get says its been obsoleted
[21:02] <grkblood13> anyone home?
[21:02] <pavlos> grkblood13: you can use apt or apt-get
[21:02] <genii> !info wpasupplicant yakkety
[21:03] <grkblood13> neither work
[21:04] <grkblood13> im running ubuntu-server
[21:04] <grkblood13> maybe thats why
[21:04] <grkblood13> not sure how to use my wireless care without it
[21:07] <pavlos> grkblood13: you should be able to type, sudo apt update, w/o errors
[21:09] <grkblood13> pavlos, after i did that it worked
[21:09] <grkblood13> whats up with that?
[21:10] <riskoir> my servers that were running ubuntu 14.04 LTS were hacked, can I just upgrade the system instead of reinstalling the OS?
[21:11] <Seveas> riskoir: no.
[21:11] <riskoir> Seveas: why not?
[21:11] <Seveas> never trust a hacked system. Start from scratch, fix the things that caused you to get hacked and import only trusted backups.
[21:12] <pavlos> riskoir: you do not know which files were compromised ... a clean install is best.
[21:13] <riskoir> pavlos: I don't know but I thought upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 would be equivalent to clean install
[21:13] <Seveas> riskoir: no, it is not.
[21:13] <pavlos> riskoir: nope, during upgrade it may keep existing files, configs, etc.
[21:14] <riskoir> and there is no option to discard existing configs?
[21:14] <riskoir> ok
[21:14] <Seveas> before you reinstall, make sure you're absolutely sure how they got in, so you can fix that in the new install
[21:15] <riskoir> yes, I already know how
[21:28] <Anonym0us> I saw this most awesome download manager called xdman which is FOSS, but the site does not display any checksums nor provide any gpg verify information, also it can't be installed with software centers or apt.. i would like a download manager that increases the speed of the download (by opening more threads) and that is also able to get videos, sounds and extract pictures (if possible) from a site my question: which download manager can do
[21:28] <Anonym0us> this while having source code available and also provide information such as checksum or gpg verify?
[22:03] <rodrigot23> is it possible to install ubuntu on a external drive?
[22:03] <Anonym0us> yes
[22:04] <Anonym0us> any storage device afaik
[22:04] <rodrigot23> so can virus that i download will it still onb that drive
[22:04] <Anonym0us> use luks
[22:04] <Anonym0us> choose encryption in the installation
[22:05] <Anonym0us> also make sure to use a OS that does not have malware installed
[22:05] <rodrigot23> i know
[22:05] <Anonym0us> you could do so by downloading the wanted OS from another computer
[22:06] <rodrigot23> look at my situation if i get a computer with windows `10 from windows 10 i still ubuntu on the external drive will any part of my  internal hard drive be affected
[22:07] <Anonym0us> when your setup is installed with luks, nothing can be written nor read in the partition that lays under luks, luks is unlocked
[22:08] <rodrigot23> i never heard of luks is that a encryption
[22:08] <Anonym0us> >with windows `10 from windows 10 - do you mean on windows 10?
[22:09] <Anonym0us> oh wait i misread
[22:09] <rodrigot23> you reffered luks on ubuntu
[22:09] <rodrigot23> the encr\ryption
[22:09] <rodrigot23> encryption
[22:11] <Anonym0us> well, i think it is possible for malware to install or modify code on your hardware; yes. e.g. by flashing your BIOS, look up libreboot
[22:13] <rodrigot23> so you wantr me to install another bios wont this conflict with my setup
[22:14] <Anonym0us> the chances a hacker modifying or making a version of libreboot for the average (windows 10) user is unlikely, you would have to be a specific target and not just a random person (accidentally installing malware) for that to happen
[22:15] <rodrigot23> its not my fault all these people online put virus in the ebooks
[22:15] <rodrigot23> viruses
[22:15] <Anonym0us> rodrigot23: i don't know, you didn't gave me any information about your setup. please do some research on what libreboot is and also if it supports your case
[22:16] <rodrigot23> i had to install ubuntu because its untouchable with these malware
[22:16] <rodrigot23> its just slows down a bit but its still works
[22:17] <rodrigot23> windows on the other hand put uyp a you know fit and randum windows keep popping up saying that i have a virus
[22:17] <leo-ren> at last i got ubuntu mate on my laptop!! <3<3 ik nobody care, but i wanna fest :v
[22:17] <Anonym0us> 1) use a antivirus if using windows, 2) i think you would be ok if you had malware installed, but since malware has got more and more skilled in infecting systems the chance of it effecting your systems hardware exist.
[22:18] <Anonym0us> leo-ren: ubuntu-mate is awesome!
[22:19] <rodrigot23> anonymous ubuntu is a killer its beats windows by a long shot  with newer edtions my problems kept getting fixed
[22:19] <Anonym0us> rodrigot23: you could install ubuntu on a ssd, that will make it pretty god damn fast
[22:19] <rodrigot23> i heard that
[22:20] <rodrigot23> did you see the apple computers
[22:20] <Anonym0us> no?
[22:20] <rodrigot23> they saw it used less resources and works faster than internal hard drives
[22:20] <rodrigot23> say
[22:20] <nacc> !ohmy | Anonym0us
[22:21] <rodrigot23> they suck though cause they dont got many usb slota ns ano optical drive
[22:21] <Anonym0us> also keep in mind that removing any not used software, and keeping your installed packages up to date will increase the security
[22:21] <nacc> rodrigot23: please take discussion of apple hardware/software to another channel
[22:21] <rodrigot23> nacc sorry i was just stating facts
[22:21] <Anonym0us> nacc: you refer to god d***?
[22:22] <rodrigot23> it was just a one time thing
[22:22] <nacc> rodrigot23: offtopic is offtopic. I don't want to have to parse through text to figure out what issue is being discussed.
[22:22] <nacc> Anonym0us: yes.
[22:23] <rodrigot23> now hes getting off topic
[22:24] <rodrigot23> anonymous more like jerk
[22:25] <rodrigot23> he takes crap on everybody that serves him
[22:25] <nacc> rodrigot23: i don't know what you're referring to, but please stop it.
[22:26] <Anonym0us> rodigot23: who are you referring to?
[22:26] <Anonym0us> pm me the answer
[22:26] <rodrigot23> read what you said
[22:27] <rodrigot23> scroll up
[22:27] <Anonym0us> rodigot23: who are you referring to?
[22:27] <rodrigot23> god
[22:27] <rodrigot23> what you said
[22:27] <Anonym0us> lets take it in pm
[22:28] <hornyhornet> salam
[22:28] <hornyhornet> 1761 lurkers....
[22:28] <hornyhornet> hey
[22:29] <nacc> !ask | hornyhornet
[22:29] <nacc> hornyhornet: well, you're not asking, but ask a question, if you ahve one.
[22:30] <hornyhornet> not yet, nacc, I'm meditating about my question
[22:41] <kk6mrp> Hello! I need assistance with logging into Ubuntu. I installed Gnome recently, and it has worked swell, however, I recently installed Anbox, which runs android apps natively on linux, and problems started happending with keychains. I have Nylas Mail installed, and it uses the keychains. Shortcuts take about 20 seconds to take effect now, and when I could log into my account, it would pop up a box that
[22:41] <kk6mrp> asked to unlock your computer whenever an application needed to use the keychains. Now, I cannot log into that account at all, so I created a secondary one, of which stopped working, but I got it working again today. The login screen just refreshes when I enter in the correct password to my normal account and never signs in. I have tried working with the Xauthority, but at no avail.
[22:45] <tubal> Hello. I'm wondering how to begin diagnosing what seems to be an X problem. Going fullscreen in many apps locks everything up. The mouse cursor still moves but the app becomes unresponsive. Even  kill-ing it at a terminal login doesn't clear it.
[22:45] <tubal> Also, it's inconsistent. I can fullscreen vlc, for example.
[22:49] <kk6mrp> Anyone have any ideas?
[22:52] <tubal> I notice some complaints from xbrlapi in ~/.xsession-errors.old. Could that be it? A braille utility?
[22:55] <simpledat> How can I see what DISTRIBUTION I have?
[22:55] <kk6mrp> tubal: Not sure quite what I am looking at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24607560/
[22:55] <tubal> kk6mrp: yeah,sec...
[22:56] <kk6mrp> simpledat: Try uname -a
[22:56] <tubal> kk6mrp: I'm not sure either. Was that supposed to shed some light on my problem? :)
[22:57] <leo-ren> simpledat: also try "cat /etc/issue"
[22:57] <simpledat> kk6mrp: I use Xubuntu. But I dont know if its jessie or not?
[22:57] <leo-ren> pretty sure is what u need
[22:57] <kk6mrp> simpledat: Look up what kernel you have
[22:58] <leo-ren>  :v
[22:58] <simpledat> kk6mrp: How?
[22:58] <leo-ren> he said, uname -a
[22:59] <kk6mrp> simpledat: ' uname -r ' just shows the kernel name
[22:59] <simpledat> Linux simpledat 4.8.0-36-generic #36~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sun Feb 5 09:39:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:00] <simpledat> kk6mrp: I should add "deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org <DISTRIBUTION> main" to my sources.list, But I dont know what to replace DISTRIBUTION with?
[23:00] <Guest33863> fdgrrg
[23:00] <nacc> simpledat: jessie is a debian codename.
[23:00] <nacc> simpledat: lsb_release -a
[23:00] <nacc> simpledat: look for the codename field.
[23:00] <nacc> simpledat: or compare to anything on your system's /etc/apt/sources.list...
[23:01] <nacc> kk6mrp: `uname` has nothing to do with the version of the OS you are running.
[23:01] <simpledat> nacc: Codename:xenial
[23:01] <nacc> simpledat: there's your answer. (that is 16.04, fwiw)
[23:02] <simpledat> nacc: Thank you
[23:02] <nacc> simpledat: yw
[23:02] <kk6mrp> nacc: I was just thinking that typically the kernel and os get updated togather
[23:02] <nacc> kk6mrp: right, but if you're looking for the name, as simpledat was, that won't help
[23:02] <nacc> kk6mrp: also, the hwe stacks make it so the same kernel can be in multiple releases
[23:04] <kk6mrp> nacc: I was just thinking that one would look up the kernel, but, yeah, I see what you mean.
[23:05] <nacc> kk6mrp: right, you *could*, but that's rather roundabout :)
[23:05] <kk6mrp> Does anyone have any idea what is going wrong with why I cannot log in?
[23:07] <nacc> kk6mrp: have you tried removing whatever it was that started the breakge?
[23:07] <kk6mrp> nacc: It is fully removed now, and when I tried to fix the keychain problem, that's when everything fell apart
[23:08] <simpledat> nacc: Are Xenial good to use?
[23:09] <nacc> kk6mrp: hrm, i'm not sure sorry
[23:09] <nacc> simpledat: xenial is the current LTS, it's recommended (i'd say) for new users
[23:09] <nacc> simpledat: *all users
[23:09] <kk6mrp> simpledat: Xenial is the kernel that Kubuntu runs on top of, and it is stable
[23:09] <simpledat> ok
[23:09] <nacc> kk6mrp: xenial is not a kernel
[23:09] <nacc> kk6mrp: xenial is a release code name
[23:10] <kk6mrp> nacc... I'm getting myself all mixed up, low on sleep I think
[23:11] <simpledat> nacc: So Ubuntu use Xenial as well? Or is it just Xubuntu?
[23:11] <nacc> kk6mrp: np :)
[23:11] <nacc> simpledat: 'xenial' is just a codename
[23:12] <kk6mrp> simpledat: It's the same thing, just different window managers
[23:12] <nacc> simpledat: there are currently 4 supported releases: 14.04 (trusty), 16.04 (xenial), 16.10 (yakkety) and 17.04 (zesty).
[23:12] <nacc> simpledat: xubuntu is a flavor of ubuntu
[23:12] <nacc> !flavors
[23:14] <kk6mrp> Does anyone else have any idea what is going wrong, why I cannot log in?
[23:23] <transhuman> hi I am having trouble getting User-Mode_Linux working anyone ever do this on Xenial
[23:24] <transhuman> following these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserModeLinux
[23:24] <transhuman> also the package is missing from ubuntu only the doc is in the repository. Is the kernel patches not installed?
[23:26] <nacc> transhuman: well, user-mode-linux was removed from ubuntu a while ago (15.04). There are (it feels like) way better ways to do what UML was trying to do now
[23:26] <nacc> transhuman: fwiw, it's back in 17.10 -proposed, but not yet released anywhere
[23:26] <transhuman> what are the better ways?
[23:27] <nacc> transhuman: KVM, LXD ...
[23:27] <nacc> transhuman: what are you trying to do?
[23:27] <transhuman> run user-mode-linux inside ZeroVM
[23:27] <transhuman> right now just testing the basic thing on my ubuntu desktop
[23:28] <nacc> transhuman: that's what you want to do ... why?
[23:28] <nacc> transhuman: i haven't heard of anyone using UML for anything in a while
[23:28] <transhuman> I would like to look it over and see how it works
[23:28] <nacc> transhuman: then ask the UML folks probably
[23:28] <nacc> transhuman: not really an ubuntu support topic
[23:28] <transhuman> ok thanks nacc
[23:28] <anchnk> hey, how can i set my desktop background to a solid color within the command line ?
[23:29] <anchnk> I am running i3 so I don't have the classical settings tried with gconf but no success so far
[23:30] <nacc> anchnk: https://faq.i3wm.org/question/6/how-can-i-set-a-desktop-background-image-in-i3.1.html ?
[23:32] <anchnk> nacc thx I also tried with xsetroot the command doesn't throw an error but I still have a grey background
[23:32] <kk6mrp> Hello! I need assistance with logging into Ubuntu. I installed Gnome recently, and it has worked swell, however, I recently installed Anbox, which runs android apps natively on linux, and problems started happending with keychains. I have Nylas Mail installed, and it uses the keychains. Shortcuts take about 20 seconds to take effect now, and when I could log into my account, it would pop up a box that
[23:32] <kk6mrp> asked to unlock your computer whenever an application needed to use the keychains. Now, I cannot log into that account at all, so I created a secondary one, of which stopped working, but I got it working again today. The login screen just refreshes when I enter in the correct password to my normal account and never signs in. I have tried working with the Xauthority, but at no avail.
[23:32] <anchnk> maybe I have to log in and out to be able to see the result
[23:34] <nacc> anchnk: i have no experience with i3, unfortunately
[23:34] <anchnk> no worries I am going to try thank you for your input
[23:35] <Ben64> kk6mrp: find ~/ ! -user $USER
[23:38] <Lavinho> good night
[23:39] <Lavinho> hp3830 ubuntu wifi dosent work ?
[23:39] <Lavinho> detect wireless but no function
[23:39] <Lavinho> help me
[23:45] <kk6mrp> Ben64: One sec, I'm having problems uploading it
[23:50] <kk6mrp> Ben64: It is quite large
[23:50] <Ben64> that's not good
[23:55] <kk6mrp> Ben64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B083jcY-N8uGeVJqcUFhWHB4cUk/view?usp=sharing
[23:56] <kk6mrp> Ben64: 41.1 MB
[23:57] <Ben64> so every file in your home directory is not owned by you?
[23:57] <Ben64> or did you type my command incorrectly
[23:58] <kk6mrp> Ben64: The user account is named weston, I am on another one for the time being called kk6mrp
[23:59] <kk6mrp> I opened up a tty to enter the command