[00:01] Ben64: Is it showing what it is supposed to show? [00:03] Ben64: I don't think I entered the command wrong === fginther` is now known as fginther [00:22] alo [00:23] What is the appropriate file to create in order to make X use a different driver? I created /etc/X11/xorg.conf with what I think were the right lines, but it had no effect on restarting X. [00:26] hello [00:26] does anyone see this? [00:26] yes [00:26] I can not read who is online [00:26] hello Nidzo_ [00:27] what the fuck [00:28] !language | damian11100002 [00:28] damian11100002: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [00:34] Maybe I should ask, how is X configured now? The files under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d aren't very informative in that regard. [00:36] tubal: u can make dir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d [00:37] jushur: Plain ol' /etc/X11/xorg.conf won't work anymore? [00:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config [00:38] tubal: then copy /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-radeon.conf and name it properly for what u use, then edit it and set the proper for your cards name and so. [00:39] jushur: Mm, okay. I'll try that. [00:39] tubal: i dont know, i guess it should. but cant say i used that for like a lot of years. [00:40] jushur, implite: man xorg.conf lists it as one of the candidate locations, but maybe it's out-of-date. [00:41] tubal: think ubuntu uses the default files in /usr/share/X11 [00:41] what version of ubuntu are you using? [00:42] implite: 16.10 [00:43] tubal: what driver u trying to use? [00:44] jushur: I have read that the modesetting driver might be better in some situations that the i915. [00:45] tubal: not sure i follow. [00:45] you can put a xorg.conf in the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ folder and it should work [00:46] jushur: I'm trying to use the driver called "modesetting". [00:50] Well, I guess I'll give this a shot. See you on the other side. I hope. [00:50] tubal [00:50] haha [00:50] hehe [00:51] i looked it up, seems he should uninstall the intel driver adn xorg will swapp to modesetting one. [00:51] I was going to ask him if he tried this folder xorg.conf.d [00:51] ahh [00:52] jushur, implite: Nope, didn't effect the change. Same driver, i915. [00:52] tubal: u can test to uninstall the xorg-video-intel driver [00:52] tubal: how new is your hardware? [00:53] drivers are really becoming more interesting to me... I wish i knew more about asm or c programming so i could help develop them for operating systems but i dont even know where to start [00:53] im good with python however [00:53] lol [00:53] jushur: Not new at all. And xorg-video-intel-driver isn't installed. [00:54] implite: I come from a Python bg too, and have only recently begun teaching myself C. [00:55] tubal: the modesetting driver is designed to be used with new hardware [00:57] hey can i ask some weird advice? [00:57] about ubuntu? [00:57] yeah kind [00:57] kinda* [00:57] jushur: Hrmm. [00:58] what is your question dara_ ? [00:58] basically in work i am the only person on ubuntu and not a mac (I'm a software dev) and I love it. But the company is undergoing very rigorous security measures and has to lock down all computers [00:59] they're saying the macs are gonna be locked down and ubuntu probably won't be allowed [00:59] they are only a startup. is there anything i could do to change their minds? [01:01] dara_: when u say lock down, u mean not have root access as a user? or what? [01:01] they will have a whitelist of software to install [01:02] that is allowed to be installed [01:02] well you also can have a whitelist [01:02] also there has to be health checks of the computers [01:02] they need to be on the latest version with all security patches [01:03] and logging/monitoring software on them [01:03] and antviris [01:03] virus* [01:03] well you can run a vm of macosx if they really need you too have mac and then you can have both on your machine [01:04] aounsa moew likw thy need to give him a apple computer [01:04] i would have to do all my development on whatever OS I use so that means i would still have to dev on macos on a vm [01:04] sounds more like* [01:04] its kinda funny that they dont understand your ubuntu yet they are a software company [01:04] just saying [01:04] i know, it's awful [01:04] they hate it too [01:05] as i said they are a startup, but they have stringent security rules imposed on them [01:05] Well can i explain something to you with software dev??? its really good to do all your dev on a vm [01:06] that way you cant mess up your main machine [01:06] not if you're doing frontend stuff [01:06] it would probabaly be too slow [01:06] depends on what you're developing i guess [01:07] well im running old 2010 latop with only 4gb of ram with ssd harddrive and i have 3 emulations and 2 vm machine running all at once [01:07] laptop* [01:08] all on top of ubuntu [01:08] lol nice [01:08] with graphics? [01:08] yep all the 16.04 stuff [01:08] mad [01:08] the ssd is what is the factor [01:09] well i think this isn't gonna work [01:09] yeah [01:09] it was a really nice one [01:09] over 500mbs transfer speed [01:09] sweet [01:14] dara_: got to ask, they going to use wireless? [01:14] wireless? [01:14] wifi? [01:14] yes [01:14] i guess yeah [01:15] i know how to break wpa2/wpa2-enterprice ,) and i bet they wont be using any special expensive protocols that actually are hard to break. [01:16] do you really? === root is now known as Guest9467 [01:20] Dont understand why they would have much issues using ubuntu vs macosx... unless they have some inhouse stuff that only works on macosx however it wouldnt take much to change it to work for ubuntu if they can make stuff for macosx/darwin [01:23] you scared him away jushur [01:23] lol === solarbee_ is now known as solarbee [01:23] implite: yes i belive so :D [01:24] actually id say it probably about handling customers data properly. and that can make the IT cordinator/staf cramp things up a bit. [01:27] well in my opinion that was like the thing that he should use to convince his dev company about that macos could be less-secure if you can hack his protocols [01:27] rofl [01:28] implite: im a bit like, dont use wifi if you can avoid it. especially when handling sensetive data. [01:28] think he took it the wrong way [01:29] maybe [01:30] well you would need to be at his location anyways for you to be able to hack his wpa [01:30] dont think he understands that part also [01:30] probably not [01:31] hmm how are you working for a dev company if you dont understand basic things [01:31] really confused now [01:32] thing is one can sit 100m from his workplace with a wifi cannon and record their wifi talk. then send that to a machine learning setup on th eother side of earth. and it will break it in minutes. [01:32] right but i mean I think this guy was just trolling us cause I dont think he works for any dev company [01:33] but just my opinion [01:33] implite: yes i got that feling to. [01:41] he left as soon as you said that, lol... I was chatting with him in pvt msg trying to understand his problem with his fake dev company haha [01:41] he said they where using javascript [01:42] and mysql [01:43] I asked him something else and then he quit and i was like??? [01:43] implite: hehe [01:45] anyone here use kde plasma? if you do, how do you like it? anyone use it on 4k display? nvidia drivers work? [01:45] implite: i use erlang/elixir/rustlang for dev stuff my self. [01:47] croz: kde works well on my friends setup. tho he has ati gfx. [01:47] i have a gtx 1050 4gb on my dell xps 15 9650 [01:48] croz: hes also not using ubuntu, so i cant vouch for its performance in here realy. [01:48] croz: you got any trouble with it? [01:48] kde works well on my amd gfx stuff also but i have not tried plasma [01:48] gotcha i think i'll give it a go. i just wish conky lua was easier to setup im a retard [01:49] u guys ever try xfce? [01:49] eae galera [01:49] yes [01:49] !xubuntu [01:49] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels [01:49] croz: i love xfce :) [01:51] so does installing xfce basically make it xubuntu? [01:52] well i think xubuntu is also more slim if not not right correct me somebody? [01:52] croz: hmm, you just chose it as a desktop in the login options under your name on login screen. [01:53] croz: i bet there will be some stuff left that is the default Unity desktop. but generaly i think it will work as xubuntu [01:53] croz: I run xfce - light, fast and easily ( once you know how ) configurable . [01:54] I know lubuntu was made to me more light-weight [01:54] made to be more* [01:55] im not sure if one is more lighter than the other [01:56] guess you can tell right away from the size of each iso [01:56] i value stability, so i run unity here. i do use xfce on some machines (also very stable). kde plasma is far from stable, my friend has a crash or two each day. [01:56] and compare [01:57] and as far i know gnome seems to be stable to, as long one dont ad to many od extensions to it. [01:57] or hack your x11 files in some weird way haha [01:58] i run with default settings here on x11 actually. [02:01] Wonder if anyone still uses old twm? [02:01] i do haha [02:02] i like to use old unix crap sometimes... makes me feel all nerdy and stuff ROFL [02:03] learn some cool things from it also [02:03] implite: true that, hacking drivers from time to time here. friends bying stuff that dont work. and i get to fix it for them.. [02:04] I moved to xfce4 now, I really liked it [02:06] <- suddenly found himself on KDE neon LTS and decided to stay [02:07] trying to figure out how to adjust the opacity of the dark gray background of the login dialog in ubuntu-gnome 16.04 lightdm [02:08] lightdm greeter settings app doesn't seem to have any way to do this [02:12] jabbawookie: have you tried to edit the background file in gimp and change the opacity? [02:13] make it a transparent image [02:15] save it as png or gif or it wont work [02:15] ;) [02:15] implite: he left [02:15] i have that turned off so i cant see... thanks! [02:15] implite: what irc client u use? [02:16] hex [02:16] implite: i use weechat my self. console text mode. [02:17] implite: it has irc smart filter. wich in essense makes it so ppl who talked lately shows up when they quit/leave [02:17] think there is a command you can do to see what someone is using but i dont remember the command [02:17] this shows it too however i turned it off [02:17] implite: well default is to show that. i changed the response to that tho. [02:18] didnt want to see what all the joins and leaves [02:18] its annoying sometimes [02:18] implite: same, its very distracting. [02:20] ahh you mean that it only shows the people that you where talking with last that join/leave? [02:20] implite: yes [02:20] that could me useful [02:20] could be* [02:21] ill download that and try it out [02:21] thanks! [02:21] can you still do dcc with it and stuff also? [02:22] implite: yes [02:22] cool [02:23] implite: the release in default ubuntu repos are outdated tho, latest rel is 1.8 [02:23] i couldnt install kde plasma [02:23] the install failed and error box popped up [02:24] jushur: i sent you a message by the way [02:24] dont know if you seen it [02:24] implite: they have a https://weechat.org/download/debian/#instructions [02:25] implite: well i usually dont respond to pms, so it was ignored by default behavior here. [02:25] np lol [02:26] !kubuntu [02:26] Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [02:27] thats for croz if he is still here [02:27] yeah i already have ubuntu with unity installed. installed gnome too. tried installing kde via terminal and it failed [02:28] after downloading and 48% progress [02:28] have you asked in #kubuntu channel? [02:28] nah [02:28] that is official kde support [02:28] i didnt cuz the install was the problem, not even in kde yet so didnt now if it would beb approrpiate [02:29] ahh i see now [02:29] sorry for that [02:29] hmm what was the error box that popped up? [02:31] what was the message for the error croz? === ifro_ is now known as asleepfro [03:08] anyone getting upgrade errors with grub-pc? [03:09] dpkg: error processing package grub-pc (--configure): [03:09] subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [03:10] Neoark: Please pastebin the full output of "sudo dpkg --configure -a". [03:13] Haai [03:13] vsk: welcome, how can we help you? [03:14] I tried to install ubuntu 16.04 in my virtual box rnning in ubuntu 12.04 [03:14] Jordan_U there is syntax error in pacakage [03:14] Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.10) ... [03:14] dpkg: error processing package grub-pc (--configure): [03:14] /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst: line 703: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' [03:14] But wen i select either install or try ubuntu..it ends up in a coloured screen [03:14] vsk: ubuntu 12.04 is end of life [03:14] vsk: unless you have esm? [03:14] I knw [03:15] Thats y i am trying 16.04 [03:15] vsk: then install 16.04.2 physical, not virtualbox [03:15] complete error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24608544/ [03:16] thinking about building a new computer. anything i stuff stay way from? ( this one is 5 years old) [03:16] I couldnt install on virtual box..so dont whether i can install it dorectly [03:16] Directly [03:16] Neoark: pastebinit /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst [03:16] vsk: try 16.04 liveusb directly, see if you can run it? [03:17] any graphics or wifi cards just know not to work etc [03:17] If the ubuntu 16.04 wont install properly..i wil loss my datas..that y i ran a trial installation on virtualbox [03:17] zhanx: most boxes can run ubuntu fine mate [03:18] zhanx: but perhaps avoid broadcom wifi chipset [03:18] Mine is a desktop [03:18] lotuspsychje: k, cheap = bad then [03:18] No wifi card [03:18] vsk: You should have your data backed up no matter what you are doing. [03:19] zhanx: not always, its good to have hardware that run out of the box on ubuntu [03:19] vsk: Before you do anything else, backup your important data. [03:19] I could install windows..kali linux and all other OS..but wats wrong with 16.04 ? [03:19] this box is still on 14.04. so i haven't upgraded in a while [03:20] zhanx: updates are important, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [03:20] vsk: you tell us whats wrong? [03:20] Ok.. then may i try to install ubuntu directly ??? [03:20] Neoark: yes [03:20] vsk: a liveusb, you can test without loosing data [03:21] vsk: but as Jordan_U suggested, always make a backup before doing anything.. [03:21] lotuspsychje:after choosing try ubuntu or install ubuntu.. the screen became a coloured one..i cant do anything [03:21] Neoark: on 2 separate machines. Luckily, I'm not running EFI on either one of them so I edited that file and commented out those if statements and it installed fine from there [03:21] lotuspsychje: i meant the hardware not the software [03:21] zhanx: thats also what i meant :p [03:22] Wat is EFI ? [03:22] !efi > vsk [03:22] vsk, please see my private message [03:22] java chan seems dead Anyone here who knows java? [03:22] smokeyj: this is ubuntu support [03:22] smokeyj: !chat [03:23] lotuspsychje, I know [03:23] oh chat no workie [03:23] Ok..let me try [03:23] !chat [03:23] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:23] Thnx 4 ur support [03:23] zhanx: !trigger | username [03:23] smokeyj: This channel is not for programming support. How helpful other channels are doesn't change that. alis can help you find other programming channels to try though. [03:23] Hope u guys will help me if i got some trouble [03:23] !alis | smokeyj [03:23] smokeyj: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [03:23] lotuspsychje: long day at work [03:23] vsk: Do you have backups of all of your important data? [03:23] Nop [03:24] zhanx: no sweat, just helping ; ) [03:24] But my important datas or seperate drive [03:24] Is that enough ? [03:24] vsk: No. If you only have one copy of important data, expect to lose it (just in general). Always have backups. [03:25] always make backups [03:25] Ooopsss... [03:25] Ok.. [03:25] Jordan_U, u are whats wrong with IRC today. I agree that keeping to topics should be done. But that would mean that no other subject is allowed [03:25] Not even ask a friend how he/she is [03:25] !guidelines | smokeyj [03:25] smokeyj: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [03:25] smokeyj: not in this chat room [03:25] i jon [03:25] So that militant shit is just getting old [03:26] smokeyj: That's correct. Asking a friend how they are would be offtopic for an Ubuntu support channel. It would be great for #ubuntu-offtopic. If you don't agree to the channel's guidelines you are free to not participate in the channel. [03:26] anyone getting upgrade error on grub-pc? [03:27] last package seems bugged [03:27] khj [03:27] Neoark: best way to get your issue solved is to re-state your issue, with all details in channel once in a while [03:27] Neoark: Did you see my request for the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst ? [03:27] lotuspsychje: any hardware you know off hard is not to be used with the latest and greatest Long term? [03:27] hand not hard [03:28] hrer [03:28] zhanx: thats too specific to answer mate, most systems perform well on LTS, newer hardware might need newer kernels (non-lts) [03:28] Jordan_U, OR, when support questions are in the few. We could adapt a little more relaxed attitude . Thus gaining a scene of community [03:29] lotuspsychje: thanks will wing it like normal and hope for the best [03:29] smokeyj: the community already relaxes in #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss [03:30] zhanx: HP & dell are known to be ubuntu friendly, but that doesnt mean other systems cant run ubuntu properly [03:30] For some it does, Not new users [03:30] lotuspsychje: i build from mother board up, but thanks [03:31] zhanx, per DEFINITION this is a chat chan [03:31] too big to paste it [03:31] 1000+ [03:31] smokeyj: ok, stop that please [03:32] Neoark, paste the tail end [03:32] caps? sure [03:32] smokeyj: If you'd like to discuss this channel's policies please do so in #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic. [03:34] Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/24608612/ [03:36] Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.10) ... [03:36] /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst: line 703: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' [03:39] Neoark: yes, several of us have got this tonight... [03:39] Neoark: do you know if you have EFI boot enabled? [03:39] Neoark: you can check by seeing if there's an "efi" directory in /boot [03:40] not there [03:41] Neoark: Interesting, looks like there is a missing ';' after "2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.10" on line 699. [03:42] ok, edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst , go to line 703, I just commented out both those if statements (5 lines) [03:42] Jordan_U: that would fix it too ;) [03:43] Neoark: Do you know how to fix that line or would you like step by step instructions? [03:43] Jordan_U ty [03:44] fixed it [03:44] added ; [03:44] before then [03:45] Neoark: What version of Ubuntu are you running? I want to make sure that a bug report for this has been filed, especially since the fix is (seemingly) so simple. [03:45] 16.04 [03:45] hey guys am having an issue where when i ssh into my machine using ldap credentials it shows me the motd then immediately disconnects. Looking at ssh in debug mode it seems to be the client is causing the disconnect. Any ideas? [03:47] Jordan_U: I can't seem to find a bug filed [03:48] i was trying to file it but i am getting timed out bug [03:48] good evening. [03:48] Jordan_U, looks like it's probably a phased update from proposed? latest on 16.04 is 3.9 [03:50] way to rush a "fix" for grub on a Friday afternoon [03:53] Neoark: Please subscribe me (jordanu) to the bug when you are able to submit it. If you have difficulty submitting the bug, please join #ubuntu-bugs . [03:56] i need some help getting my remote connection working well. i have installed x11vnc on the server (ubuntu). i started it with x11vnc --scale 1920x1080 (my client resolution). but everything is stretched, and it's probably due to having dual monitors on the host, as i see them both. [03:56] i have a question. i have compiled a custom ubuntu build that has , as part of it, many non-free drivers installed on it. when installing it on new machines that do happen to use these non-free ddrivers should i expect any issues? [03:57] i just want a single screen, no scrolling around, text i can actually read, but I can't figure out the proper settings. [03:58] what i think happens is that, after installation, the system just uses the drivers that it needs and disregards the fact that there are other drivers present for different wifi chip architectures? [04:00] unholymachine: For wifi I wouldn't expect any issues but proprietary graphics drivers tend to cause problems with use of the Free drivers. [04:01] jnewt1: be carefull with vnc, its a security flaw [04:02] Im running soundconverter 2.9.0-beta1 and the AAC format option is missing. How do I get it working? Or is there an alternative app to batch convert audio files between formats? [04:02] LinuxGuy2020: its recommended to install packages from the ubuntu repos [04:02] LinuxGuy2020: ffmpeg is a tool I use. [04:03] lotuspsychje, what is the preferred remote connection method? [04:03] jnewt1: ssh with fail2ban as protection [04:04] Jordan_U: Ill try that. Thank you, [04:04] lotuspsychje, looking for something simple like rdp on windows. i don't really want to do a bunch of setup. i can already ssh to the desktop. [04:05] jnewt1: just telling to be carefull with GUI remote 24/7 things, youl get hammered hard [04:05] what? [04:06] jnewt1: dont let vnc run while your away [04:06] LinuxGuy2020: You're welcome. [04:09] lotuspsychje, if no vnc, what should i use so that i can connect remotely as simply as possible without a big security hole like what you're talking about [04:09] jnewt1: tell us your plans first, will you need it 24/7? [04:10] jnewt1: what kind of remote work will you need? [04:12] ty Jordan_U [04:13] lotuspsychje, i won't use it constantly for 24hrs / day, maybe an hour or two per day. i used RDP with windows, but am trying to switch to ubuntu as my main OS. I want something like RDP where I don't have to worry about how much i use it or what sort of work i want to do while using it. office programs, accounting software, software dev IDE, shouldn't matter. [04:14] jnewt1: RDP is also a security flaw, id really suggest ssh for a more secure work [04:14] !vnc | jnewt1 [04:14] jnewt1: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [04:15] lotuspsychje, if SSH is setup popper [04:15] Jordan_U: Yeah ffmpeg with WinFF front end is very nice. Thanks a bunch [04:16] lotuspsychje, i don't have a fast connection, i notice vnc is a lot slower than rdp on my setup. [04:17] lotuspsychje, reading about rdp says newer versions use ssl/tls to encrypt everything, is there another piece needed to secure this stuff? [04:25] implite, you still around? [04:25] hello [04:25] sorry was afk [04:26] so yeah when i tried installing kde i got error box and it asked to report it to canonical or whtaever it is [04:26] what was the error message? [04:26] i still have the terminal open though. how can i show you the log? i dont want to paste it all here. is there a key part you need to see? [04:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [04:26] put it all in past here [04:27] paste [04:27] is teamviewer any good? [04:27] yes [04:28] https://paste.ubuntu.com/24608903/ [04:28] Hello. I compile vim from source, so I'd like to remove vim-tiny. However, it seems that ubuntu-minimal depends upon vim-tiny, and ``It [ubuntu-minimal] is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed." [04:29] What should I do here? [04:29] m5w: why do you need vim from source? [04:30] leftyfb, you'll laugh if I tell you [04:30] try me [04:30] in default vim, nuw is maxed out at 10 [04:30] I think that's dumb, so I compile it to be maxed higher [04:34] implite, find anything there? [04:35] hm, maybe if I install to /usr/local instead of /usr it will find that first before vim-tiny stuffs and use that? [04:35] testing now [04:35] looks like you are getting errors with installing some packages [04:35] croz [04:36] works! [04:36] there is some missing packages that you can try installing before you try to install kde again [04:36] which packages [04:36] okay, so no need to remove vim-tiny [04:41] I have my /home on an ssd but want to mount an encrypted folder that is shared between two users on another hard-drive. Is there a relatively simple way to accomplish this with ecryptfs? Perhaps using a startup script for each user? [04:43] my system glitched and now spacemacs hangs. I don't think its that, but probably some missing or corrupted command. Is there some apt type process I can run to have it check my system and reinstall any packages where the contents are missing/broken? [04:44] An encrypted network share? [04:46] @arch-nemesis No, just a common encrypted folder on a bigger mechanical hard drive. For photos and scanned documents. [04:47] kevinfish: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' . === damier is now known as Damier [04:48] I don't know about ecryptfs, but I've had good luck with luks encrypted hard drives. Gnome/Unity automatically prompts for the password when you plug it in. [04:48] Dax [04:54] Hey [04:54] Bashing-om: ok, thanks [04:55] @arch-nemesis I have not tried LUKS, but will check it out. Thanks for the idea. [04:55] kevinfish: :) advise the channel if there are errors reported . [04:56] Having issues with site cloning gmail on the Setoolkit. Any advice? [04:56] The problem is that there is 2 pages one for the username to be entered, and the other for the password. [04:58] I did the site template thing but after they enter the credentials it leads them to google not gmail [04:58]