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 I just did a normal daily upgrade to my Kubuntu 16.04 server.  Upon restart, I receive a message saying: … "Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL 2" … I have benn using 3.1 and the server has been working perfectly for over a year on 16.04 … Thank you
[02:46] <deardavid> Hi, I am a relatively new Kubuntu user.  I can load 16.10 via USB drive onto my Dell laptop, but can't bootup via USB drive on my custom-made desktop (C: is SSD), currently running Win7.  Is this a good place to get some advice?  Thanks.
 Thank you, deardavid.  … This doesn't answer a server issue
[03:10] <deardavid1> I am same user as deardavid.  I logged out to rejoin from a different computer, and I had to get a new nickname.
[03:11] <deardavid1> Gary, if you were answering my question about not being able to boot 16.04 on my desktop, then where would be a good place to ask...?
 https://www.ubuntu.com/support
[03:15] <deardavid1> Thank you very much, Gary.  I will try there.
[03:18] <siggis> pirateirc
 Sorry, DearDavid.  I am actually looking for help here
 I was actuallylooking to UBUNTU support and found none
 I was thinking to drop a $500 note, but not now
 Updates ill take care of me in time.  I am so very patient … You just got nothing
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[06:29] <croz> Anyone able to help with getting 4K to display properly. I tried the scaling in the display settings and this was it at 2x. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1495290629.png
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[11:05] <efloid> as of recent update Win key is no longer activating Application Launcher
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:28] <jonas_> i have a problem: i wanted to try kubuntu and booted it of an usb stick. then i selected "try kubuntu". but then there was just something like a plasma startscreen with the plasma logo and nothing else. i was able to press the on/off button of my computer so that a screen appeared where i was able to choose between shutdown, restart and all these things. i tried re-logging-in but i had the same problem again..can someone help me?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> jonas_, which kubuntu release?
[12:33] <jonas_> 17.04
[12:36] <BluesKaj> jonas_, did you run a md5sum on the original iso, just to be sure ?
[12:37] <jonas_> no..never did this..don't know how this works
[12:38] <jonas_> so my problem isn't a common problem?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> jonas_, I've seen it before, sometimes it's a corrupted iso, sometimes a graphics problem, but usually it's graphics
[12:41] <jonas_> well okay..i'll try that md5sum thing now
[12:42] <jonas_> and (don't know if that matters) i had kubuntu 16.04 and 16.10 on my computer some time ago and it worked well
[12:47] <jonas_> okay so the number from md5sum is correct
[12:47] <BluesKaj> jonas_, then 17.04 should work, unless you had a graphics issue with 16.10 when you first tried to install it , then the same solution should work for 17.04
[12:49] <jonas_> no, is meant that 16.10 worked well i had no problems with that version..at the moment i have linux mint on my computer but i wanted to switch back to kubuntu
[12:51] <AngelMate18Lts> jonas_: mint kde ?
[12:51] <jonas_> but i can try some other ubuntu version so that i can see if that's a kubuntu/kde problem or a ubuntu problem
[12:51] <jonas_> mint cinnamon
[12:59] <BluesKaj> jonas_, Highlight "Run Ubuntu from this USB" and try hitting 'e'. If that shows you the boot lines, simply add nomodeset in front of the 'quiet splash. and it might be TAB to enter the edit mode.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> BBL...
[13:50] <Taggnostr> jonas_, I have the same problem
[13:52] <Taggnostr> I see the kde logo, then it loads the background image, but when it tries to load the bar at the bottom it just messes up the background image and doesn't load anything else, I can move the cursor but can't do anything else
[13:52] <Taggnostr> if I press the on/off button the screen with shutdown/restart appears
[13:53] <Taggnostr> I also tried ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal but nothing appeared (the mouse pointer disappear though, and I got it back with ctrl+ald+f7)
[13:53] <Taggnostr> jonas_, do you have nvidia graphics?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, there's noo mouse availble in the vt/tty
[14:04] <BluesKaj> it was easier with live cds . usbs seem to have all kinds of problems as live media
[14:06] <BluesKaj> mostly it has to with the app used to creta the bootable image on the usb stick ...unetbootin fails over 50% of the time, the best metod is to use dd in my experience
[14:06] <BluesKaj> method
[14:15] <jonas_> i created the usb stick with the ubuntu image writer. and i'm not sure what you mean with "Run Ubuntu from this USB" because when i boot off that usb stick it takes some time and than i just have that kubuntu window where i can choose between try and install kubuntu
[14:16] <jonas_> and no i don't have nvidia graphics
[14:25] <BluesKaj> jonas_, never used the ubuntu image writer" so i have no idea whether it does a good job making bootable images on a USB stick. Peronally i use dd to copy the iso ,  dd if=pathtoiso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M ..use fat32 formatted USB to be safe
[14:28] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, jonas_: I used unetbootin, maybe I can try with dd
[14:29] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, the fact that the cursor disappeared it's probably a sign that it switched to the tty, however I only had a black screen
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, read up on dd so you understand the usage and it's consequences if you muck it up
[14:30] <Taggnostr> I could also try with the ubuntu image writer first
[14:31] <BluesKaj> you can but it must be new and new means buggy
[14:31] <BluesKaj> it didn't seem to help jonas_
[14:32] <Taggnostr> I think it worked for me a few times in the past
[14:34]  * BluesKaj shrugs , well it's your choice
[14:43] <jonas_> i always used the ubuntu image writer for ubuntu based distros and i never had any problems. the only problem i had was when i used unetbootin (not sure tho if that was caused by unetbootin)
[14:44] <Taggnostr> jonas_, is the ubuntu image writer the same as the startup disk creator?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> startup disk creator works well too
[14:46] <Taggnostr> that's what I'm trying now, even though it seems to have some problem
[14:46] <Taggnostr> when I open it a popup with "installing" and a progress bar appears immediately, but the bar doesn't move
[14:47] <Taggnostr> if I try to close it it asks me if I want to terminate the installation (iirc), and if I say yes it closes the program
[14:47] <BluesKaj> tr it takes patitence , it's a bit slow , but it does do the job..seems like it stalls , but it's not really
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr,^
[14:48] <Taggnostr> if I say no I can access the program and click on "create image" or something similar, and then the main windows disappear and the popup with the progress bar appears again, but this time it says "writing disk image" and it progresses
[14:49] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, but the popup appears when I open the program, even before I click on anything
[14:49] <jonas_> i'm actually not quite sure which program i used bc my system is in german..but i think the program i called ubuntu image writer is that startup disk creator you meant
[14:50] <Taggnostr> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DaP6nin7sFw/maxresdefault.jpg it looks something like this
[15:27] <Taggnostr> tried again with the usb created with the startup disk creator and got the same result
[15:29] <Taggnostr> one thing I noticed now is that after doing ctrl+alt+f1, the background image didn't disappear (the pointer did), and also there were some artifacts on the background image, so I suspect some graphic issue rather than a problem with the usb image
[15:30] <Taggnostr> but I'm afraid that for today I have no more time to investigate, if you have some suggestions I'll read them when I come back
[15:30] <Taggnostr> in the meanwhile thanks BluesKaj and jonas_ :)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, did you try the install option  ?
[15:31] <Taggnostr> not yet
[15:31] <BluesKaj> you might have more luck with that
[15:32] <Taggnostr> ok, next time I'll try that, otherwise I think I'll have to try with another distro
[15:35] <BluesKaj> you already have ubuntu , just install kubuntu-desktop
[15:38] <Taggnostr> BluesKaj, this is on another machine with winxp
[15:39] <Taggnostr> here I have kubuntu (32bit, and I still have to install 64bit -- I'm trying to fix too many things at once)
[15:42] <Taggnostr> gtg, thanks again
[22:34] <weboh> is there much difference betwixt gtk+ and gtk#?
[22:44] <valorie> weboh: KDE devels use the Qt toolkit, not gtk
[22:44] <valorie> perhaps ask in GNOME or #ubuntu chans?