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aroonido i need to run https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2 ;; or does 16.04 already include intel drivers that support hardware acceleration?00:04
BischoopHi00:05
Bashing-omisene: The nouveau driver should be active if the nvidia driver is removed . ( keep in mind even the i915 driver for the Intel chip set also is not present ! )00:05
arooniBashing-om: i assume that was for me.  i have the 915 integrated graphics; so i need to run that update tool i linked to?00:06
_Sym_arooni, I also have the i915 graphics chipset and I had to update to a new kernel in order to fix the screen flickering.  The default 16.04 kernel does not really support the latest skylake intel graphics cards on laptops.00:06
iseneHmmm... How can I see what driver is active?00:07
isenenouveau or not00:07
aroonioops apparently i have the intel 3000 laptop (thinkpad t420 from back in the day  loL )00:07
iseneBut after removing the nvidia-375, the battery consumption is at least back to 11 W (at was up at 37 W with the nomodeset00:08
aroonii still think hardware acceleration isnt supported from ubuntu unless i try that wizard; because kodi chokes when trying to decode some streams00:08
aroonialso; am i not allowed to run sudo commands when connecting via ssh?  [sudo] password for david: Error executing command as another user: Not authorized00:09
iseneWhat I am really trying to accomplish here is to maximize the battery life. I'm not gaming, so I'd really like to make sure the NVIDIA card is burried 6 feet down00:09
_Sym_arooni, I would say try building the latest kernel from kord with make-kpkg00:09
_Sym_from korg*00:09
arooni_Sym_: i'm running the 4.8 kernel00:09
Bashing-omarooni: No, was not responding to you .. working a nvidia driver install failure with isene - hybrid .00:09
_Sym_arooni, I dont think i915 was usable until 4.900:10
_Sym_or maybe 4.1000:10
arooniso; hardware acceleration even for my ancient hd 3000 wont be supported unless i run the wizard?00:11
_Sym_I think my issue was related to skylake and i91500:11
_Sym_so maybe its ok with older intel graphics chipsets00:11
_Sym_not sure00:12
_Sym_my guess is that if you have trouble with i915 drivers, then try updating the kernel00:14
sirru5hHowdy everyone00:16
iseneBashing-om: Should I try to get the 915 driver going? Would that bring the battery consumption further down? Or improve something?00:17
_Sym_i915 is the one supported by intel00:17
_Sym_so you will probably get better performance00:18
_Sym_if you have an intel chipset on a laptop00:18
iseneI do (Dell XPS15, recent)00:18
_Sym_definitely i would choose i915 then00:19
Bashing-omisene: Racking my brains and getting nowhere ; we have no errors, no log files, no installed files . just have no notion of what we can do .// the intel driver .. that is a thought as that chip set must function for the nvidia card to function .00:19
psychoticwarrior add-apt-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa00:19
psychoticwarriorapt update00:19
isenepsychoticwarrior: is that for me?00:19
iseneBashing-om: Should I apt-get xserver-xorg-video-intel ?00:20
psychoticwarrioryea try that00:20
_Sym_isene, is it intel or is it nvidia?00:20
psychoticwarriorapt-get update00:20
psychoticwarriorapt-get upgrade00:20
iseneIt's both - Intel is the primary, nvidia the secondary00:21
isenexserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version (2:2.99.917+git20170309-0ubuntu1).00:21
iseneHmm... it's already there, Bashing-om00:21
Bashing-omisene: "If you are using testing/unstable, Debian recommend removing xserver-xorg-video-intel and instead relying on the X server's built-in modesetting driver:00:21
Bashing-omThe use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's builtin modesetting driver instead.00:21
Bashing-omdo: sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel00:22
iseneI'm on Ubuntu 17.0400:22
_Sym_what is the kernel version on 17.04, isene00:22
iseneOK. Done00:23
Bashing-omisene: One can check if that driver is installed ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel ' .00:23
iseneIt reports gone00:23
aroonihow do i fix W: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key KEYID uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)00:23
isene_Sym_: 4.10.0-2100:24
_Sym_isene, that kernel should be new enough to support i91500:24
Bashing-omisene: Reboot and see if there is a positive result ?00:24
iseneI'll be back in a min and then you can tell me what to look for :-)00:25
iseneI'm back00:26
iseneRebooted just fine, but not sure what to look for00:26
b0bby__can you help me?00:27
b0bby__please00:27
aroonido i need to restart my ubuntu laptop after upgrading my video drivers?00:27
aroonifor them to take effect?00:27
aroonior is it immedaiate: (results) https://gist.github.com/arooni/49351f47628e69952a303f802ca9052a00:27
_Sym_just X, arooni00:27
arooni_Sym_: so like sudo service lightdm restart ?00:27
_Sym_arooni, just log out and back in00:28
arooniwill my laptop run faster now that i have 3d acceleration ?00:28
_Sym_arooni, proper hardware acceleration should take some load off the cpu00:29
iseneBashing-om: How do I check what driver is active? (I should perhaps have registered how to do just that through all that we have gone through - but it slipped)00:30
Zalabaslea:-)00:30
b0bby__can i get some help00:30
arooni_Sym_: yay :)   in the future when i can afford a new laptop and since you seem to know about stuff like this is it better to get a laptop with intel graphics or nvidia?00:30
arooni_Sym_: will hardware acceleration just run as needed or do i need to turn it on somewhere00:31
Bashing-om!register | isene00:31
ubottuisene: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.00:31
iseneBashing-om: I have this from ' inxi -GCS ' :  ' Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) '00:31
_Sym_arooni, if the driver is working, then it will have proper accleration enabled by default.  Intel drivers are easier to setup because they are supported directly from the kernel.  Nvidia drivers usually require third party drivers and additional setup.00:32
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arooni_Sym_: which are better for batterY/00:32
_Sym_that probably requires testing, but I would guess the nvidia card uses more power because its more for gaming.00:33
Bashing-omisene: And pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . As we fly by the seat of our pants .00:33
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iseneI do see a ' i915 ' in there: https://pastebin.com/HKbcBNBu00:35
iseneBashing-om: BTW; I'm already logged in/registered00:36
Bashing-omisene: That sys that the driver for the Intel chip set is loaded .. and no driver for the nvidia set . think'n again !00:37
_Sym_Do you have to choose the video driver in the BIOS?00:38
iseneBut maybe that's just quite OK - given that I don't want that power hungry GPU to fire up and kill my battery?00:38
isene_Sym_: Not as far as I've Googled00:39
_Sym_how does the laptop know which video card to use00:39
Bashing-omisene: That card "should" be as on demand - if you really do not want it used . maybe turn it off in bios ?00:40
iseneIt uses the primary (Intel) normally and the NVIDIA kicks in when it feels like on Windows (apparently) and also on Linux if I can get the driver to load (or maybe it does lie in the background consuming power - as some posts have indicated - which is why I want the driver loaded and then blaclist the fucker)00:41
_Sym_I have never seen Linux uses two cards and the same time and dynamically switch between them00:43
iseneApparently there is no way to turn it off in BIOS (all posts indicate that) - BUT, it may be possible in an updated bios, which is what I may try after a good nights sleep00:43
iseneIt's 2:43 am here in Oslo/Norway00:43
iseneI'm a GM for a buch of 13 year olds in a few hours...00:44
Bashing-omisene: We got the nvida driver available ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ' ?00:44
iseneI deeply appreciate how helpful you guys are. It's rather amazing.00:44
iseneBashing-om: Checking...00:45
Bashing-omisene: Open source at it's best :)00:45
_Sym_I would guess that since this a new Dell laptop, you will need the latest nvidia drivers00:45
iseneBashing-om: Yes. I would like to get your contacts back channel (I run a few IT companies and could use some talents now and then)00:46
iseneResult of the latest recommendation: ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau            1:1.0.14-0ubuntu1       amd64                   X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver00:46
iseneSo, yes00:46
Bashing-om_Sym_: We been up and down with nvidia drivers . can not get any driver to install for isene .00:47
isene_Sym_: We have tried nvidia-375, nvidia-378 and the latest nvidia-381 --- all freezes on boot00:47
_Sym_and the modules builds ok with the kernel headers installed?00:47
iseneBashing-om: If you'd like, drop me an e-mail at geir@a-circle.no00:48
isene_Sym_: Apparently00:48
_Sym_the nvidia drivers should be supported by dkms I think00:48
isene_Sym_: Yes. But they freeze on boot nontheless00:49
Bashing-omisene: With hubrid graphics the xorg,conf file must exist . does it ? ' ls -al /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' .00:49
iseneBut we deleted that...?00:49
_Sym_maybe the nividia drivers are conflicting with the intel card00:49
_Sym_maybe the nvidia drivers would work if the intel card is disabled00:50
Bashing-omisene: and it " should " have been rebuilt on the current install .00:50
iseneBashing-om: ls: cannot access '/etc/X11/Xorg.conf': No such file or directory00:50
iseneHow to reinstate it?00:50
Bashing-omisene: Purge once more, and install the nvidia driver . if the file is not created, we can have nvidia build it .00:52
iseneI did ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt install nvidia-375 ' and no xorg.conf after this00:54
isenehow to fix?00:54
leftyfbisene: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:55
Bashing-omisene: try ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' .00:55
leftyfbinsidious: though Ubuntu doesn't need xorg.conf anymore00:56
crypticgator_I'm trying to connect to the internet by using an old router as a bridge to ethernet. I changed the address of the router to match the gateway ip and the last digit I put 102. But now I can't connect to it anymore00:56
Bashing-omisene: leftyfb  Great thought too !00:56
_Sym_I'm reading that hybrid graphics systems must disable one of the cards00:56
Bashing-omleftyfb: htbrid grahocs on isene's issue . got to have that file to switch graphic's sets .00:57
leftyfbcrypticgator_: that's a non-ubuntu issue00:57
iseneWhich one should I try Bashing-om's or leftyfb's solution?00:58
Bashing-omisene: tey the dpkg command 1st .. see if there is anything positive .00:58
leftyfbisene: I didn't know you had hybrid graphics. I guess you do need xorg.00:58
_Sym_reconfiguring xorg probably wont fix it.  I think you need to go into your BIOS and disable one of the graphics cards for the driver in linux to work00:58
crypticgator_leftyfb: I don't konw the settings I need to put in the network profile, I guess since DHCP may have turned off00:59
leftyfbcrypticgator_: configure your network profile to be the same subnet as your router's gateway ip01:01
iseneDid both commands, have this now: https://pastebin.com/Y9JkE3tn01:01
crypticgator_it worked, but I had to add the new IP of the bridge in the gateway section of the profile01:02
crypticgator_thanks01:03
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uxfihi freinds01:05
uxfihow is all01:05
iseneBashing-om: Should I try rebooting, then?01:08
iseneBashing-om: Or anything else first?01:08
Bashing-omisene: That is just weird ! I would accept something like : http://termbin.com/mwj5 . thin'n again !01:09
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klf"In C, statically-allocated objects without an explicit initializer are initialized to zero (for arithmetic types) or a null pointer (for pointer types)."01:22
uxfihello01:23
Bashing-omisene: I just do not have the skills to know what to think here . Not a thing we can get a bite on ! No logs, no installed files to work with - no errors !01:26
Zalabasleahi01:28
Bashing-omisene: Got the liveDVD(USB) on hand ? See what the live environmnet is like ??01:31
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doc|workis anyone here in #glusterfs?01:40
platzafter upgrading to 17.04 changing mouse (trackpoint pointer) speed via "xset" seems to no longer work01:42
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psychoticwarriorwhats up01:52
platzahh https://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net/msg488510.html01:52
LadyBSpeed: 4.01 GHZ02:00
LadyBdone.02:00
kode54regarding the above nonsense with the intel/nvidia laptop02:03
kode54they implement something called "Optimus" technology02:03
kode54the nvidia GPU has no video outputs02:03
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kode54software uses DMA framebuffer copies between the NVidia GPU and the Intel GPU's VRAM02:03
kode54there's Linux software to facilitate such GPU arrangements, where you run software you want to utilize the NV GPU using a special launcher02:04
kode54otherwise the software will use the Intel GPU02:04
kode54it's the same as any multi-GPU setup, minus the dedicated GPU having any attached displays02:04
platzafter dealing with bumblebee/optimus, i simply resort to turning the GPU on and off at boot time if needed02:05
uxfigood evening02:06
kode54isene: re: your nvidia card, if you don't want to use it, don't use the bumblebee/optimus packages02:06
kode54it's a special arrangement02:07
kode54there if you want it, idling and potentially disabled if you don't02:07
kode54you have to launch the apps through bumblebee if you want them to even touch the nvidia gpu02:08
platzbut again if you change the graphics card to Nvidia in the BIOS, you can simply run "prime-select nvidia" and then Xorg will run everything under the GPU02:09
kode54oh02:09
kode54but I think he was trying to avoid that because he wants to save battery power02:09
platzyes it's terrible for battey02:09
platzi only use it when i need to hook up a projector because the video port requires the graphics card on my laptop02:10
platzbasically the situation is unchanged since this post w/ thinkpad hardware http://zachstechnotes.blogspot.com/2012/01/tri-head-display-on-linux-thinkpad-w520.html02:13
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psychoticwarriorwhat up ppl02:45
flushdeja-dup was freezing my ubuntu02:45
flushnice02:45
flushwhats next02:45
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Guest14516anyone using popcorntime? when I open the executable file, a windows say "There is no application installed for 'shared library'02:50
psychoticwarriorno clue dont use it02:53
hanasakiIn gnome , how do you set add a new app to the dock?  it is a custom program . not installed from apt-get02:53
psychoticwarriordo you know the dir of the program02:54
hanasakiyes02:54
psychoticwarriorjust drag it over to the site02:54
psychoticwarriorim in kali right now let me switch to ubujntu02:54
hanasakitrying.. thanks02:54
kostkonGuest14516, try running it from the terminal02:55
psychoticwarrioryea the terminal02:55
psychoticwarrioropen terminal02:55
psychoticwarriorthen type in the program name02:55
hanasakiwhat's a good lowerend compact laptop that will run ubuntu with wifi/bluetooth support?  maybe i3 or low end i5.  and how much ram min to run a few things like gnome, ubuntu, libreoffice, firefox, pidgin, evolution?02:58
hanasakiat the saem time02:58
psychoticwarriortry right click then move and drag it to the panel02:58
psychoticwarriorworks foor me02:58
hanasakihi psychoticwarrior ... dragging does no good... it snaps back to the gnome filemanager.02:58
psychoticwarrioroh shit02:59
psychoticwarriorim now into ubuntu02:59
psychoticwarriorit works for me02:59
psychoticwarriordoes it have a gui?03:00
psychoticwarriorwhat version of ugunut do you have>03:00
psychoticwarrior?03:00
hanasakipsychoticwarrior:  right now.. gnome 3.2203:01
psychoticwarriorok03:01
hanasakihappens to be debian stretch testing03:01
hanasakihmm mwas running xfce... gnome is cpu and ram heavy in comparison03:03
psychoticwarriordid u try right click and then press move and drag it over to the panel?03:04
hanasakipsychoticwarrior:  yes03:05
scottfreeHey anyone active?03:06
hanasakiright click brings up a menu, no dragging allowed, :: left click drags and it looks like the icon in the dock tries to run was what dragged onto it03:06
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sumeet_Hi guys03:06
scottfreeHello!03:06
sumeet_New ubuntu user here03:06
sumeet_Hello Scott03:06
scottfreeubuntu rox03:06
scottfreeHow are you?>03:06
sumeet_Am good, thanks. How are you?03:07
sumeet_Ubuntu Mate looks cool03:07
scottfreeIm good just about to put a movie on03:07
sumeet_Cool03:07
sumeet_Hope you have a good time03:07
scottfreeim gonna leave chat up and keep chatting as i watch03:08
Perversohola03:09
jonez_Hello,I ran  lvreduce without shrinking fs. How may I fix bad sectors?03:09
sumeet_Is there a way to install chrome via command line03:09
Perverso:o03:10
Perversocomo estan03:10
Perverso:(03:11
kostkonsumeet_, why via the terminal?03:14
Perverso:003:19
ChaiTRexsumeet_: https://askubuntu.com/a/797278/61645103:20
Perversoque programa puedo usar para descargar musica de buena calidad?03:20
kostkon!es | Perverso03:20
ubottuPerverso: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:20
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Perversogracias pero no hay mucha gente03:21
sumeet_@kostkon Couldn't install from their site. Turns out they only support 64 bit systems03:21
sumeet_I've 32 bit one03:21
sumeet_@chaiTRex thanks but i think i need to settle for chromium03:22
kostkonsumeet_, yes, Chrome has gone 64bit only, like Steam and many others.03:22
Perverso:(03:23
bazhangPerverso, please stop that03:23
Perversook don't worry03:24
Perversoyou can help me03:25
bazhangPerverso, here is support only, not general chit chat03:25
bazhangPerverso, you want a music player?03:25
Perversoyes03:25
Perversommm03:25
bazhangPerverso, which ubuntu are you on03:25
Perversodowload music 320 kbts03:26
bazhangPerverso, a music player is not a music downloader03:26
sumeet_:D03:26
Perversoi'm sorry03:27
bazhangPerverso, we will not help with that03:27
Perversoi need program to download music  good quality03:29
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bazhangPerverso, sign up for a paid music service03:30
bazhangPerverso, again, we will not help you with getting paid music free, stop asking for it03:31
Perversojajajaa ok03:31
platzok so upgrade to 17.04 installed emacs25 and seems like a lot of plugins aren't working in emacs25.. anyone run across this?03:33
kostkonPerverso, install spotify and you will be able to legally listen to music for free*     *with ads03:33
bazhangplatz, have you tried in the more specific emacs channel here on freenode03:33
platzbazhang: better idea, thanks03:34
bazhang#emacs it should be03:34
psychoticwarrioryoutube to mp303:35
psychoticwarriorgoogle: youtube to mp303:35
psychoticwarriorcopy youtube hyperlink then paste it and press ok03:35
psychoticwarriorsave file03:36
psychoticwarriorthen drag it to your destination03:36
garrettmclaughlitest03:37
Perversothanks03:37
Perversoi'd like program similar to ares03:43
psychoticwarriordid u try youtube to mp3?03:47
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Perversoyes03:48
psychoticwarrioryae its easy03:48
psychoticwarriorworks most of the time03:48
Perverso= whit jdowloader03:48
psychoticwarriorhuh?03:49
Perversojdowloader too03:50
psychoticwarriorkool03:50
Perversobut quality is bad03:53
Perversogracias amigo03:59
psychoticwarriorit may be the file that your downloading from ubuntu search for HQ04:00
psychoticwarriorfrom youtube i mean04:02
Perversodon't worry amigo is there any way to ripe the spoty music04:03
doc|workPerverso, have you tried buying it from the band's website?04:05
doc|workMost will sell it to you for a reasonable price04:05
Perversoi want mp3 file04:06
psychoticwarriorhttps://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter04:07
doc|workPerverso, they probably sell those - most do now04:07
Perversojajaja04:09
doc|workPerverso, what does that mean?04:09
kostkondoc|work, hahaha in spanish04:10
doc|workweird, I wasn't making a joke.04:10
doc|workthanks for the explanation04:10
PerversoI am laughing ok04:12
psychoticwarriorok\04:12
Perversohttps://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter           is good thanks04:14
doc|workok04:14
psychoticwarrioryea no problem bro04:14
psychoticwarriorworks great04:14
Perversothanks amigo04:15
psychoticwarriornp04:16
lord-arhemadanIs there a reason there's a Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log? :P04:19
psychoticwarriornot sure04:19
psychoticwarriori think its two differnt files04:19
lord-arhemadanI see lol. Knowing that, is pastebin fine for this channel?04:20
hanasakihow do you list all the installed gnome controls and turn them on/off?04:21
Bashing-omlord-arhemadan: .log is the present boot - .log.old is the last boot - what X thinks .04:21
ChaiTRexlord-arhemadan: It's for the display number.04:21
lord-arhemadanHm. Weird.04:21
lord-arhemadanNot sure why I'd have a second display on that old tin can, unless it's assuming the VGA port's in use04:22
ChaiTRexlord-arhemadan: From man Xorg: "The default log file when running as root is /var/log/Xorg.n.log and for non root it is $XDG_DATA_HOME/xorg/Xorg.n.log where n is the display number of the Xorg server."04:22
Perverso¬¬04:23
lord-arhemadanI see :P Anyway, I just upgraded my old powerbook to 14.04.5 and now X basically shows a cursor for about half a minute, and then goes back to the console.04:25
psychoticwarriorlord-ahemadan are you from norway?04:25
lord-arhemadanUnited States :)04:25
psychoticwarrioryea me too04:25
lord-arhemadanAnd with that I have the following paste: https://pastebin.com/qmL8nJpY04:25
PerversoI'm going to study English so I can answer them well04:26
psychoticwarriorsounds good04:26
PerversoI'm Mexican and Americans hate us04:27
lord-arhemadanOh, I was wondering if your user was in Spanish ;)04:28
Perversoyes04:28
lord-arhemadanAs long as it was something descended from Latin I could be pretty sure what it meant hahaha :P04:29
PerversoxD04:29
psychoticwarriorisnt that like lord from black metal04:31
PerversoBecause the Americans hate us?04:32
psychoticwarriorwhat do you mean hate?04:33
Perversono estoy seguro pero asi se siente04:34
PerversoxD04:34
Perverso<psychoticwarrior> you are american?04:36
psychoticwarrioryes im from chicagoland area04:36
psychoticwarriorwhere are you from?04:36
Perversoi'm from mexico Morelos04:37
psychoticwarriornice04:37
psychoticwarriori have a friend that lives in mexico04:37
Perversoi have all family in USA xD04:37
Perversoyou understand Spanish04:39
Perverso?04:39
psychoticwarriorno no spanish04:41
Perversook04:42
Perversoteach me English04:42
psychoticwarriorwhat version of ubuntu do you have?04:42
Perversoubuntu mate04:42
YankDownUnderEspanol is nicer than English...what's the point?04:42
Perversojajajaja04:43
psychoticwarriordo u like spanish04:43
Perversoi'd like spick inglish04:44
psychoticwarrioryou would like to speak english?04:44
Perversoyes04:45
YankDownUnder...y'all know...before an OP comes into the channel...it's all kinda "OT", hmm?04:45
Perversoteach me04:46
Perversojajaajajaja mejor se fue xD04:50
Perversome pregunto si fui demasiado perverso04:51
Perversocomo estan todos pues04:53
Perversoyo volvere este canal al español04:55
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nicomachuswell, at least he tagged some ops.05:00
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nicomachus!es | Perverso05:00
ubottuPerverso: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:00
sumeet_Is there a way to use text to speech on ubuntu. I want to listen to pocket articles https://help.getpocket.com/article/1081-listening-to-articles-in-pocket-with-text-to-speech05:03
nicomachussumeet_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech05:03
psychoticwarriorback05:06
psychoticwarriorwhats up05:06
sumeet_Thanks nicomachus. Am using Ubuntu mate latest version where this hasn't been tested. Is there some other way05:06
nicomachussumeet_: any of those options should work in MATE...05:07
nicomachusMATE is just a DE. It's still Ubuntu under there.05:07
sumeet_Ok. Trying it out. Thanks :)05:07
psychoticwarriori love using a backdoor. editing the kernel and typeing at the end of linux init=/bin/bash and bypassing the system05:09
nicomachuslol05:10
nicomachusstay on topic.05:10
Perversook05:11
Perversoporque no me dejan hablar en español he?05:13
nicomachus...05:14
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ubottuPerverso, please see my private message05:15
PerversoWhat's up05:16
Perversook05:16
PerversoI do not understand Spanish05:17
PerversoxD05:17
psychoticwarrioryea me neither05:24
Perversojajajaja xd05:24
sumeet_text to speech not working for me. No sound05:52
sumeet_Tried festival05:52
sumeet_and espeak05:53
sumeet_@nicomachus05:54
vicsar.05:57
psychoticwarriorhey06:06
psychoticwarriorripping mad ass tonight06:10
psychoticwarrioranybody up this late06:12
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psychoticwarriorwhats up homies06:20
sirru5hHowdy psychoticwarrior06:22
psychoticwarriorhey man whats up06:22
psychoticwarriorwatching live pd ever seen it?06:24
crozAnyone able to help with getting 4K to display properly. I tried the scaling in the display settings and this was it at 2x. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1495290629.png06:29
crozI'm running KDE Plasma on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (did not install Kubuntu).06:29
psychoticwarriorim running ubuntu 16.0406:31
akikcroz: you should describe the problem too06:31
crozmy screen. when i set the laptop's resolution to 4k everything is tiny06:33
crozi tried scaling it up06:33
crozboxes get bigger, but the fonts are too small06:33
akikcroz: if the scaling doesn't work, there's also settings for font sizes in system settings/application appearance06:35
crozi dont see application apeparance06:36
akikcroz: although your firefox seems fine06:36
akikfirefox has its own font settings too06:37
crozit does but not the tabs06:37
akikcroz: try searching for font in system settings06:37
crozah i see it. does it help if i input my dpi? 282.406:38
akikcroz: do you have the problemm only with hexchat?06:39
crozand settings windows06:39
akikcroz: ok play with those settings that you found06:40
akikcroz: i'm using kde 4 so the settings might be a bit different. there's a separate setting for font dpi06:40
crozok fixed hexchat with ur suggestion of fonts06:41
akikcroz: "force fonts dpi"06:41
crozyeah i did force dpi 28206:41
crozand hexchat looks fine now06:41
crozlet me try scaling and logging out and back in now to see if that fixes everything.06:41
crozbrb06:42
cegu3hello06:44
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wilkesboothstyleHey guys. Outside of running OSX in a VM on a Ubuntu host, is there any way I can develop/test iOS apps on Linux?07:01
Asiannoodles42Hey guys so I have this weird issue where the internet speeds are overall slower on Ubuntu than on Windows07:14
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sirru5hHmm.. how are you connecting ? Ethernet or WiFi07:16
Asiannoodles42Im connecting via WiFi07:19
hhzhk`whoami07:24
sirru5hAlright did you recently upgrade?07:27
sirru5h^^ @ Asiannoodles4207:27
Asiannoodles42I guess so yes07:29
sirru5hwhat are ya running right now and what were you running previously and when did ya upgrade07:30
yndlkkw07:31
Asiannoodles4216.04 to 16.04.207:31
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sirru5hhmmm  thats interesting07:32
sirru5hLet me do a bit of poking about on google right quick07:33
sirru5h( there was a guy here who went from 16.04 to 17.04 and he had this issue)07:33
Asiannoodles42Ah07:33
Da5hcan someone point me out to security related channels?07:33
psychoticwarriorwhat issue did he have07:34
sirru5hpsychoticwarrior, slow internet07:34
psychoticwarrioryea07:34
psychoticwarriori have kali linux and im having issues with it disconnecting07:34
Asiannoodles42Same07:35
psychoticwarriorinterface goes down07:35
Ben64well kali isn't supported here07:35
psychoticwarrioryea true07:35
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, you already made sure you are totally up to date ( sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)07:35
sirru5hpsychoticwarrior, Yeah man #kali-linux07:35
Asiannoodles42sirru5h I'm totally up to date07:36
sirru5hhmmm07:36
sirru5hdid ya reboot after the upgrade and all that07:36
Asiannoodles42Yep07:37
sirru5hhmmm thinking07:42
azizLIGHThow come my terminal doesnt wrap text around and resize to fit when i resize the terminal window. im on 14.04 and it doesnt resize. i used a 16.04 livecd and noticed that everythign was being formatted/resized correctly when window size for terminal changed07:43
Ben64azizLIGHT: because it doesn't on 14.0407:44
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, crazy question you running IPv6?07:44
Asiannoodles42I turned it off so nope07:45
azizLIGHTaw shucks07:45
sirru5hha what card is it?07:45
Asiannoodles42WiFi card? I use a dongle EW-7811un07:46
sirru5hokay so external and its edimax07:49
Asiannoodles42Yup07:49
sirru5hpretty compatible card07:50
Asiannoodles42And for some reason my download speeds are way faster on Windows07:51
sirru5hwell lets start looking at the lsusb07:52
sirru5hyou know Asiannoodles42 you're the second person I talked with in as many days who had slow internet and he was even on ethernet07:53
YankDownUnderThe "driver" for the dongle would have been specifically written for MS.07:53
sirru5hso YankDownUnder tricky driver?07:54
Asiannoodles42Bus 001 Device 002: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]07:54
Asiannoodles42I did lsusb and one of the results was this07:54
sirru5hohhh okay07:55
YankDownUnderSo it's actually a Realtek bit of hardware.07:56
sirru5hyeah its got their chipset07:57
sirru5hLets see what module its loading for it lsmod | grep 819207:57
YankDownUnderAsiannoodles42, You're installed 17.04, yes?07:57
Asiannoodles42My Ubuntu is 16.0407:57
Asiannoodles42*.207:58
sirru5h16.04.207:58
YankDownUnderAsiannoodles42, Ah...sorry...was making an assumption based on "network problems" - as most have been from 17.04 installations...my bad...07:58
YankDownUnderAsiannoodles42, Just for the knowledge - have you tried to assign a static IP to the dongle's connection?07:58
Asiannoodles42No I have not07:59
one80808:04
sirru5hYankDownUnder, what do ya think? check the lsmod | grep 8192   check the module then blacklist?08:09
YankDownUnderCheck for "blacklisting" - but also test the actual connection. Being that RT's are inherently flaky at best...configure using a static IP so that at least the actual connection itself can be ruled out...does that make sense?08:10
one808hello08:11
sirru5hmakes sense08:11
YankDownUndersirru5h, After the connection itself is tested, modules and hardware configuration. With a static IP and static DNS, you should be able to at least tell what's the real deal.08:13
one808..08:13
sirru5hAlright sounds good08:13
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, you still there?08:14
Asiannoodles42Yep08:15
Asiannoodles42Still here08:15
SemiNus1hi08:16
sirru5hcool beans08:17
SemiNus1cooler apples08:17
Asiannoodles42Coolest CPU08:17
sirru5hsudo favoriteEditor /etc/network/interfaces08:18
Asiannoodles42Alright08:19
Asiannoodles42All I have on it is "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)08:19
Asiannoodles42auto eth008:19
Asiannoodles42iface eth0 inet dhcp"08:19
sirru5hthe device in question is wlan0 if youre not sure ifconfig would pinpoint the wireless interface08:20
sirru5hAsiannoodles42,  what about the wireless interface08:21
Asiannoodles42My wireless device is wlx74da387d47aa08:21
sirru5halright long name there08:22
Asiannoodles42Do I change eth0 to wlx74da387d47aa?08:22
sirru5hNo eth0 is ethernet we want the wifi08:23
sirru5hso I am guessing there is no entry for it08:23
SemiNus1Question:  How can I convert RAW images to jpg from the command line using image magick?08:23
SemiNus1imagemagick does not work (error) when it comes to raw files08:23
SemiNus1the #imagemagick guys told me I compiled imagemagick without raw support08:24
sirru5hauto wlx74da387d47aa  (first line should look like this )08:24
SemiNus1but I did not compile it - I just apt-getted it08:24
SemiNus1apt-got it?08:24
SemiNus1whatever the past tense would be of this action08:24
Asiannoodles42sirru5h Got it08:24
sirru5hiface wlx74da387d47aa inet static08:25
Asiannoodles42Done08:25
Codinghello08:26
Codingis anyone there?08:26
sirru5haddress 192.168.1.X  (X is a number you want to assign also make sure you're on the same subnet remember 192.168.1.1 generally is your gateway/router)08:26
Codinganyone?08:27
Codinghello08:27
Codingdoes this work?08:28
sirru5hnetmask 255.255.255.0  ( if you need to make changes to suit your network config make them)08:28
Codingwhat?08:28
Asiannoodles42This is all in /etc/network/interfaces right?08:28
sirru5hCoding, we do see you08:28
sirru5hyes08:28
YankDownUnderSemiNus1, Open a terminal and type: man convert ==> this will tell you how to use the "convert" utiliity from the ImageMagick suite08:28
Codingohhh cool!08:28
Codingi havent used Linux in ages!08:28
Asiannoodles42M'kay got it08:29
sirru5hgateway 192.168.1.1  ( if different make appropriate changes)08:29
Asiannoodles42m'kay08:31
WERDNAwhat is the point of this chat?08:31
WERDNAjust wondering?08:31
YankDownUnderWERDNA, This is the Ubuntu support channel for Ubuntu linux.08:31
WERDNAoh cool!08:31
MonkeyDustWERDNA  type   /topic08:31
sirru5hdns-nameservers 8.8.4.4 8.8.8.8 ( totally example right there )08:31
WERDNAthis reminds me of the old way skype used to be08:32
Asiannoodles42Do I do both 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8 or just one of them?08:32
MonkeyDustWERDNA  great, but keep this channel free for ubuntu support questions08:32
sirru5hAsiannoodles42,  umm whats the DNS for your ISP or network?08:33
WERDNAwell with that being said, i have been able to install dotnet core as well as Visual Code, however when installing mono, it doesnt appear in the programs list08:33
Asiannoodles42I'm using the Google Public DNS08:33
MonkeyDust!find mono08:34
ubottuFound: ca-certificates-mono, fonts-noto-mono, fonts-tlwg-mono, fonts-tlwg-mono-ttf, libmono-2.0-dev, libmono-accessibility4.0-cil, libmono-cairo4.0-cil, libmono-cecil-private-cil, libmono-cil-dev, libmono-codecontracts4.0-cil (and 393 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mono&searchon=names&suite=zesty&section=all08:34
sirru5hOkay so you want to put that in instead of he exaple octets i use08:34
Asiannoodles42M'kay08:34
sirru5hyeah Asiannoodles42 I use example IP's and stuff since I don't know your network config08:35
sirru5hyou can always change anything which doesn't apply to your particular configuration08:35
Asiannoodles42It looks right to me08:35
sirru5hokay doing good08:36
YankDownUnderAsiannoodles42, Kinda easy to go from your IP address - the one the router's already spit out at yer dongle...08:36
sirru5hnow we gotta add our route08:36
sirru5hso it knows that your IP sends to the gateway then out to the internet08:37
sirru5hup route add -net 172.16.168.0/21 gw 172.31.0.20 dev wlx74da387d47aa08:38
Asiannoodles42"up route add -net 172.16.168.0/21 gw 172.31.0.20 dev wlx74da387d47aa" add all of that?08:38
sirru5hof course you are putting in your IP and the gateway if08:38
sirru5hremember it's so your particular network08:39
Asiannoodles42The first IP is the Address right?08:39
sirru5hup route add -net YourIpHere /21 gw GATE:WAY:IP:HERE dev wlx74da387d47aa08:39
Asiannoodles42Done08:40
sirru5hyes we actually can use CIDR notaton ( its geeky network stuff)08:40
wssxkhave any one learn gtk?08:40
wssxkhow can I finalize a instance while GTypeInfo dose not set a instance finalize func?08:40
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Asiannoodles42Oh08:41
sirru5hYankDownUnder, what do ya think I'm kinda just remembering this all off the cuff08:41
YankDownUndersirru5h, Hope you still can do that when you're 54, bro.08:41
MonkeyDustwssxk  are you a developer?08:41
sirru5hoh lord haha08:42
wssxkI am learnng gtk08:42
sirru5hAlright thats a static IP08:42
sirru5humm lets save08:42
Asiannoodles42M'kay08:42
wssxkbut the doc is not so friendly08:42
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, one thing I wanna double check something08:43
Asiannoodles42Whats that08:43
YankDownUnderGTK is the programming language of all the hackers and fraudsters...ayep...08:43
MonkeyDustwssxk  type   /j #gtk+08:43
sirru5hcan you ls /etc/network/interfaces.d/wlx74da387d47aa08:44
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Asiannoodles42Not such file directory08:45
sirru5hsometimes I've seen a file for the device not be in there and it will cut in and out08:45
sirru5herrr ls /etc/network/interfaces.d/08:45
wssxkthere are few people in #gtk+, no one answer me ;.08:45
sirru5hsorry I am actually trying to make sure your device is there08:45
Asiannoodles42errr command not found08:46
sirru5hls right08:46
Asiannoodles42Yeah08:47
sirru5hhmmm weird08:47
sirru5hls is for listing the contents of a directory08:48
Asiannoodles42Yep, it works08:48
sirru5halright cool08:49
sirru5halright ummm we are gonna flush our old address08:49
sirru5hget things refreshed08:50
YankDownUndersirru5h, If y'all create the text file in like his home dir, double check it, and then copy it nicely over into /etc/network/interfaces.d - (copy - not move) - kinda makes it nice to have two copies to muck with...just sayin...08:50
Asiannoodles42M'kay, how do flush?08:50
sirru5hudo ip addr flush wlx74da387d47aa08:50
sirru5hsorry08:50
sirru5hsudo ip addr flush wlx74da387d47aa08:50
sirru5hsudo systemctl restart networking.service08:51
Combined2857hi, a permission of a folder is "drwx------ 2 root root " how do I change it to include the user as well ?08:51
Asiannoodles42Done08:51
sirru5hvery true YankDownUnder didn't think about that08:51
Asiannoodles42I'm using the Wicd network manager08:52
Asiannoodles42So I shouldn't have networking.service08:52
Ben64Combined2857: permissions are owner group other, rwx rwx rwx, each binary like 421 421 421, so just add up the permissions you want and set it like that08:53
sirru5hokay iirc its wicd-client  let me double check08:54
sirru5hyeah that's it08:55
Asiannoodles42so sudo systemctl wicd-client restart?08:56
sirru5hsudo systemctl restart wicd-client08:57
Asiannoodles42Ah, m'kay08:57
Asiannoodles42it says that wicd-client.service is not found08:59
sirru5hhmmm09:00
sirru5hyou can sudo wicd-client09:01
YankDownUnder"sudo service wicd-client restart" ? => just in case it's not a systemd service...09:01
sirru5hwait09:02
Asiannoodles42Yes I can do wicd-client09:02
Asiannoodles42*sudo wicd-client09:02
sirru5hacutally looking up packages09:02
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sirru5hhmmm YankDownUnder it is wicd-client right>09:04
sirru5hhmm just got confused right now09:05
sirru5hgoogling09:07
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, I never dealt with wicd09:11
Asiannoodles42Ah09:11
sirru5hso I gotta google all this up i remember it was wicd-client restart09:11
newdimensionI'm running "systemd analyze service" and the answer I'm getting is "Excess arguments". Could this be a syntax problem? The file was working and I only added more Environment= lines09:12
sirru5hI dunno if YankDownUnder is around but I'm sure he'd know09:12
Asiannoodles42Should I just reboot?09:13
sirru5hactually that would work we did flush the cache and it will restart the service09:15
Asiannoodles42M'kay09:15
sirru5hI really wanted to refresh the setting so if it wasn't the settings and the module we could get that09:16
sirru5h(crosses fingers)09:16
Asiannoodles42Back09:18
sirru5hso?09:18
Asiannoodles42Imma do a speed test09:19
sirru5hhow is it now09:19
sirru5hmmm ok09:19
newdimensionsystemd is failing to start a gunicorn service. I can't seem to find a reason why. Where can I look? journalctl log isn't helpful09:20
Asiannoodles42Oh wow09:20
sirru5hwhats the verdict?09:20
Asiannoodles42Speed doubled from 0.27Mbps before to 0.58Mbps now09:21
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, okay so is that what you get on windows?09:22
Asiannoodles42On Windows I got 1.88Mbps09:22
Asiannoodles42Still an improvement09:22
sirru5hhmmm09:22
sirru5hyeah as yank was saying I guess the drivers are flaky09:23
sirru5hi wonder if that's what is causing that or something else...09:23
Asiannoodles42Hrmm..09:26
sirru5hdid you check what module is being used?09:27
Asiannoodles42module? how do I check?09:28
sirru5hYankDownUnder,  lsmod | grep 819209:28
Asiannoodles42sirru6h I did lsmod | grep 8192 and got "rtl8192cu              65536  009:33
Asiannoodles42rtl_usb                20480  1 rtl8192cu09:33
Asiannoodles42rtl8192c_common        53248  1 rtl8192cu09:33
Asiannoodles42rtlwifi                77824  3 rtl_usb,rtl8192c_common,rtl8192cu09:33
Asiannoodles42mac80211              761856  4 rtl_usb,rtlwifi,rtl8192cu,rtl8xxxu09:33
Asiannoodles42r8169                  81920  009:33
MonkeyDustAsiannoodles42  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/09:33
Asiannoodles42http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616253/09:34
sirru5hSorry Asiannoodles42 got disconnected09:36
Asiannoodles42Np, anyways I did lsmod | grep 8192 and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616253/09:37
sirru5hexcellent I was just about to retype the command09:37
ComposMentisIs this a general support channel?09:39
Asiannoodles42For ubuntu yep09:40
MonkeyDustComposMentis  type   /topic09:40
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, Hey just came across this https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-709:40
sirru5hlooks like exactly our issue under the partRealtek RTL8188CUS and RTL8192CU chipsets (0bda:8176 and 0bda:8178)09:40
ComposMentisPhenomenal! I'm about ready to tear my hear out. I'm on 17.04 Budgie - I have 4 monitors. I finally got it to see the PRIME, but now my secondary Nvidia GPU won't show up & xorg.conf settings reset after lightdm restart or sys reboot.09:41
Asiannoodles42I see09:41
sirru5hI'm gonna give it a quick read i suggest you do as well so we both have a better idea of what issues maybe going on09:41
Asiannoodles42Thank you!09:42
QzorHi All, just wondering if anyone knows if the Microsoft Remote Desktop Client is available for ubuntu as it is for OSX/Apple Store?09:45
ComposMentisI know there are RDP protocol alternatives - I think grdesktop is one of them.09:45
SchrodingersScat!info rdesktop09:46
ubotturdesktop (source: rdesktop): RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server and Windows Servers. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.3-2 (zesty), package size 150 kB, installed size 462 kB09:46
ComposMentisI've also heard good things about Remmina but I haven't used either so I can't confirm they handle that specifically09:46
ComposMentis^ very nice :)09:46
QzorI've just tried Remmina but dosn't quite seem as fast. :\09:46
SchrodingersScat!info remmina09:46
ubotturemmina (source: remmina): remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-4ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 120 kB, installed size 392 kB09:46
akikQzor: rdesktop has worked fine09:46
Qzoras native or the MAC/Apple store client by Microsoft.09:47
sirru5hhmm Asiannoodles42 tell me when you have read that section relating to your wireless card09:47
Asiannoodles42Yep done09:47
SchrodingersScatQzor: all vnc is rather sad, use ssh where available09:47
Asiannoodles42sirru5h so all I need to do is follow the instructions and it should be fixed right?09:49
akikSchrodingersScat: i think Qzor wanted to access a windows server graphically09:49
QzorSchrodingersScat, agreed.. Using RDP into RDSH Servers09:49
sirru5hAsian it kinda describes your issue to a T; The slow internet speeds09:49
ComposMentisCan anyone lend advice on dual GPU + iGPU setup?09:49
SchrodingersScatakik: meaning they have 2 problems09:49
akikSchrodingersScat: what do you mean?09:50
SchrodingersScatakik: problem 1, using windows. problem 2, using a gui remotely.09:50
ComposMentisIf that's the case, could you setup Windows in a VM and use Unity/Seamless/etc ?09:50
akikSchrodingersScat: well neither of them is a problem09:50
sirru5hAsiannoodles42, Yeah I actually have heard that those drivers work pretty good( I have another machine with rtl 8188ee and I plan on grabbing those drivers myself and getting that wifi working)09:50
SchrodingersScatyet here we are09:51
MATI_81_DE_ENHallo09:51
Asiannoodles42Seems easy enough, anyways thank you so much for your time sirru5h09:51
sirru5hI hope I helped I haven't had to set static IPs for a while09:52
sirru5hThank you for your patience and great meeting you09:52
Asiannoodles42You too! ^-^09:53
caramhey09:53
caramanyone there?09:54
MATI_81_DE_ENyes iam here09:54
ComposMentis@caram everyone is here.09:54
BischoopHi caram How are you?09:54
caramincredible09:54
BischoopWhy is it so?09:54
caram@Bischoop fine thanks!09:54
carambut if everyone is here, who's there in the world outside?09:55
ComposMentisEveryone_Else09:55
BischoopGo and check out ;-)09:55
caramstrange world09:55
MonkeyDustComposMentis  caram you can drop the @ ... type 2-3 characters of a name, then hit tab to autocomplete09:55
Bischoophave you been there outside?09:55
ComposMentisMonkeyDust, thanks :)09:55
caramMonkeyDust, thx09:55
ComposMentisJust bumping again to see if anyone new has experience with Xorg.conf setup and dual GPU setups09:56
sirru5h!seen psychotic09:56
ubottuI have no seen command09:56
sirru5hgah09:56
MATI_81_DE_ENi am looking for a linux for my niece she is 17 and i have an old pc (fujitsu amilo, Intel Pentium M 740 1.73 GHz) know somebody a linux for my aplication?09:58
MATI_81_DE_ENi think this chat is wrong for this question sorry10:01
akikMATI_81_DE_EN: it depends on the specs of the machine10:01
akikMATI_81_DE_EN: you can test your system's compatibility with a live session but it will be a bit slow10:02
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MonkeyDustMATI_81_DE_EN  better ask in ##linux or in #ubuntu-offtopic10:02
MATI_81_DE_ENthe system must be easy to use my niece has no exp in linux10:03
MATI_81_DE_ENok i will ask in the linux chatroom10:03
MATI_81_DE_ENthank you aki and monkeydust for your help10:04
MATI_81_DE_ENbye bye10:04
Bischoopbye MATI_81_DE_EN10:05
santhustI have noticed automatic downloads from cdce.sin002.internap.com. Multiple times. I do not understand what for it is, why it occurs, or how to stop it. I have disabled all auto updates, even security updates. Recently, I even did $ sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer. But the said auto download occurs even now. Any clues? Suggestions how to stop this?10:19
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neutronbombanyone has used wireshark? pm ty10:21
implitewhat packets are you sniffing?10:21
neutronbombcurrently setting it up having issues adding interface any idea10:25
composmentisHello again10:30
sirru5hneutronbomb, just wondering wifi?10:31
composmentisCan anyone assist with Xorg configuration & dual NVIDIA GPU setup>?10:31
composmentisCan anyone assist with Xorg configuration & dual NVIDIA GPU setup?10:31
composmentis(sorry for double post)10:31
xzillenhallo10:44
composmentisHellooo10:48
MonkeyDust!patience | composmentis10:50
ubottucomposmentis: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:50
composmentisMonkeyDust, I wasn't "Hellooooing" for help, I was "helloooing" xzillen10:50
composmentisJust tryina be friendly10:51
Asiannoodles42Hello sirru5h!10:56
Asiannoodles42Just wanted to again say thank you so much10:56
Ridley5hi all11:01
composmentisAloha, Ridley511:01
Ridley5i have a problem with internet speed on windows it's Ok but Ubuntu 16.04LTS down (50Kb/s)11:01
Ridley5this is the Wireless info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24616660/11:02
Ridley5hi composmentis11:02
cfhowlettatheros wifi is notoriously hinky with ubuntu, Ridley5.  My suggestion for sake of sanity is replace it with something linux friendly11:04
Ridley5do you mean replacing my wireless interface ?11:04
cfhowlettyep11:05
Ridley5i have a zydas based ship usb wifi dongle, it is linux friendly ?11:05
cfhowlettnever heard of zybas.  intel works just fine.11:06
Ridley5ok thanks11:07
BischoopTry different Version of Distro perhaps Ridley511:07
Ridley5you mean the driver Bischoop?11:07
Ridley5or the entire distribution11:08
Ridley5i reboot for traying this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/844846/qualcomm-atheros-slow-not-connecting-on-ubuntu-but-works-in-win-1011:10
Ridley5wbb11:10
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gebbioneanyone ever used a camcoder as webcam?11:16
gebbioneI am thinking to get something like a gopro and use it also as a webcam11:16
cfhowlettwould it not be easier to just, you know, get a webcam?  lot cheaper than a gopro and ready to go out of the box.11:17
gebbionea webcam cannot be used as a camcoder11:18
gebbionedoes not have a stabiliser11:18
gebbioneand usually their quality is rubbish11:18
gebbionealso u can get an alternative camcoder at webcam prices11:18
gebbione4k optics http://www.gearbest.com/m-goods-sn-158135605.htm11:20
cfhowlettgebbione, laptop?11:21
gebbioneno, desktop11:21
gebbioneubuntu 1611:21
cfhowlettis your COMPUTER a laptop?11:22
gebbione<gebbione> no, desktop11:22
BluesKajHiyas all11:22
Ridley5same problem11:23
rx_hello11:32
rx_my apache service is running, but my site does not show in google11:34
gebbioneask google11:34
rx_ok11:34
rx_welcome Apunkt11:35
rx_nice sunday11:36
rx_nice weather11:36
Silverin_Hi everyone! After a LFS install (with ubuntu 16.04 as host). I edited my grub.cfg in order to create a dual boot here is it : http://digitalblend.fr/lfs-screen.jpg However I get : "Unknown file system you need to load the kernel first" when I try to boot on ubuntu.. any idea?11:38
Silverin_fdisk -l reurns : http://digitalblend.fr/lfs-screen2.jpg11:39
kerashhi all11:57
auronandace1Silverin_: are you sure you got the root section right? you seem to be only referring to a disk and not any partitions on the disk11:58
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Silverin_auronandace1 : How can I check that?11:59
auronandace1!grub2 | Silverin_11:59
ubottuSilverin_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:59
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Silverin_ubottu : reinstall grub on ubuntu may crash my lfs boot ?12:01
ubottuSilverin_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:01
auronandace1Silverin_: also, if you are using grub2 then you shouldn't be editing the grub.cfg file directly. There are files elsewhere to edit and then you generate the grub.cfg file12:02
auronandace1Silverin_: the troubleshooting guide ubottu linked you to shows you how to make a proper entry12:03
ioriaSilverin_, /etc/grub.d/40_custom12:06
gtavI'm at the installation for ubuntu LST through VM. I'm using windows. And it ask me "erase all disk and install ubuntu" ... this wouldn't delete windows, would it?12:07
auronandace1gtav: if your installation is in the vm it will delete everything on the vm's disk, it will not affect your host12:07
gtavauronandace1 ok thanks!12:08
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SunnyWaysGood morning. I have a question that is difficult to Google. I installed Ubuntu onto a new hard-drive for a PC laptop. Seemed to boot fine as an external USB device. Then I booted the same disk on a Mac laptop to copy some files over. Now I can't seem to boot on the PC again. May booting the Mac have damaged the boot record?12:16
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Jack_Sparrow__I seem to remember that DOS based systems used to write a single byte to linux hard drives that it mounted that screwed them up going back to linux. I dont now what might have happened.12:22
auronandaceI thought Macs were GPT based rather than DOS12:23
SunnyWaysThe odd thing is that I booted the mac with that drive. So it was running Ubuntu. I copied files from another drive into ubuntu.12:25
Jack_Sparrow__SunnyWays, did you use super powers to copy.. into what folder?12:25
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: Hmm. I did copy a folder that was locked and I had to chmod to make it readable by all.12:26
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: But it copied fine. And the the other file (a large 190gb file) was just a drag and drop.12:27
Jack_Sparrow__You may be your own worst enemy12:27
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: Well, that I already knew. But why specifically?12:28
SunnyWays(this time)12:28
Jack_Sparrow__throw Ubuntu on the drive again try it on the mac again but without the copy then back tot he pc12:28
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: Installing Ubuntu isn't a big deal at all. The drive was fresh and the install takes 10m. But copying the 190gb file was a big pain in the ass. So I kind of want to avoid doing that. :)12:29
Jack_Sparrow__Room to make a second partition?12:30
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: I thought of this this morning. I could do this if I have to reinstall.12:31
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: So you think it's no longer bootable on the PC at all? Would reinstalling on top of the current install repair?12:31
Jack_Sparrow__YOu can shrink the one you have12:31
auronandaceSunnyWays: a storage partition for your files does make installing/reinstalling operating systems much easer12:32
Jack_Sparrow__I have a feeling it wont boot if you go back to the mac?12:32
SunnyWaysAh. So you think it's unbootable. I'll try it out now. I'll try to join irc in my raspberry pi. I hope it doesn't crash.12:33
Jack_Sparrow__People may think Im crazy but I mount just my Desktop on a sep partition, reinstall slides in any time with a short script of things I add or change..12:34
Jack_Sparrow__SunnyWays, I just got that feeling12:34
Jack_Sparrow__Its only 5am here so question anything I might have to say12:35
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: lol12:36
SunnyWaysbrb12:36
Jack_Sparrow__SunnyWays, We want to look at free space on that drive and room for another partition12:37
Jack_Sparrow__k.. cya in a sec12:37
auronandaceJack_Sparrow__: you just missed him with your last two statements12:37
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SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: The mac boots fine with the drive.12:41
Jack_Sparrow__Damn12:41
Jack_Sparrow__Ununtu boots ? so that kills that theory12:42
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: It may be the POS HP laptop then. I'll have to try again. Maybe I missed something in the boot order. But when I select boot options, I see the external drive (Crucial). I select it and it's a black screen.12:42
Jack_Sparrow__its set for legacy not that secure boot stuff right12:43
SunnyWaysYeah, it should be.12:43
Jack_Sparrow__Tough problem.  Id still shrink the partition you have on that usb drive and put an os below it12:45
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: Yep. I used to do that by default. But it's been years I haven't really ran Linux as the main OS.12:46
SunnyWaysJack_Sparrow__: Thanks for your help. :)12:46
Jack_Sparrow__np, just an old timer hanging out12:48
ioriaSunnyWays, you can boot a live stick so  you could  have a better look  and repair stuff if needed12:48
SunnyWaysioria: Yep, that's a good idea. I'm sure I could have this resolved without too much work. But it's my GF's computer and she's reluctant to let me upgrade her hard drive from some coal-powered 10mb/s pos to this new SSD. :)12:58
BluesKajSunnyWays, clonezilla ?13:04
vimesHello! I threw some money at digital ocean for a VPS, it's running Ubuntu 16.04. they want money for making back up images when I want, but I also have a personal NAS. Is there a way to make a complete OS back up image and download it to my NAS instead of using the DigitalOcean services? saving me some dollars :)13:08
tincaturehello everyone. in a test environment, i have one iscsi target set up with tgtadm with a backing store of /dev/sdb. the service starts up at boot, but it keeps "forgetting" /dev/sdb as a LUN. i have to re-run the tgtadm command to "export" it every time. no errors then. i am using 17.10. why won't it remember that /dev/sdb is the backing store.13:08
vimesI also use Ubuntu 16.04 on my personal computer btw13:08
bobomamy internet connection dies randomly. Wifi is still connected, other devices to the router still got internet. But my PC is not able to ping etc anymore. what's the ubuntu bug-report command for wifi problems?13:12
Jack_Sparrow__boboma, look u fixes based on your hardware chipset,13:17
auronandacetincature: support in #ubuntu+113:17
tincatureauronandace: thank you13:18
Jack_Sparrow__Use in Terminal:   inxi -Nn | pastebinit     Provide link  -  So We can see what hardware you are working with13:18
Jack_Sparrow__broadcomm, realtek, atheros etc13:19
tincatureauronandace: i'm dumb, sorry, i'm using 17.0413:19
tincaturehello everyone. in a test environment, i have one iscsi target set up with tgtadm with a backing store of /dev/sdb. the service starts up at boot, but it keeps "forgetting" /dev/sdb as a LUN. i have to re-run the tgtadm command to "export" it every time. no errors then. i am using 17.04. why won't it remember that /dev/sdb is the backing store.13:19
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MonkeyDusttincature  is that a server?13:27
bobomamy hardware is Card-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi13:34
bobomais there something like ubuntu-bug wifi?13:34
tincatureMonkeyDust: a server? it's just a test environment, nothing prod: a few vms on my laptop that i'm learning with13:35
cfhowlett!bug | boboma nope.   but you can file a bug anyway13:35
ubottuboboma nope.   but you can file a bug anyway: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:35
bobomacfhowlett, thanks. But what would be the package that is affected here?13:36
cfhowlettboboma, sorry, IDK.  if you have not already done so, suggest you go through the wifi troubleshooting lin below13:37
cfhowlett!wifi13:37
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:37
* dan hello13:40
rumi999greetings13:42
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rumi999hi ubuntu community, am I at right place ?13:50
cfhowlettubuntu support rumi99913:50
n0rb0tHello, I am having video problems on 16.10 I tried a lot of things but I can't figure it out. When I play a video or I use any browser I have screen lags drops in fps. may it be with chromium or with firefox, with vlc or other player I have an intel HD 520 I installed latest intel video driver via intel-graphics-update-tools but it didn't change13:57
n0rb0tany help would be appreciated13:57
cfhowlettwhat is your video ram, n0rb0t?13:58
n0rb0tcfhowlett: how can I get it ?13:58
cfhowlettn0rb0t, inxi -F | pastebinit13:59
cfhowletthttps://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/14:00
n0rb0tcfhowlett: https://pastebin.com/rjb0THtv14:01
boboman0rb0t, strange, i have a 520 as well and had no problems with 16.1014:02
bobomado you have these problems when you run ubuntu from a livecd?14:02
bobomayou might check that first14:02
n0rb0tI don't think so14:03
n0rb0tMemory at db000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]  Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]14:03
n0rb0tboboma: you don't have them with the livecd either?14:04
n0rb0tcfhowlett: any clues14:07
cfhowlettn0rb0t, boboma suggested you try a liveCD test - I concur14:08
n0rb0tok I will do that and come back right after14:08
n0rb0tthanks14:08
tomreynwe might also need to ask: did these issues occur before you installed updated intel drivers using intel-graphics-update-tools (which is not part of ubuntu)?14:11
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n0rb0tcfhowlett: I am back14:16
n0rb0tno problem on live usb14:16
cfhowlettresults??14:16
n0rb0tvideo streaming in html5 1080p worked like a charm14:16
cfhowlettah!  that suggests you have installed the improper driver.  boboma?  help?14:16
n0rb0tI had the problem before installing intel-graphics-tool-upgrader and after14:17
mashudwhen i shutdown my ubuntu 16.04 lts,dose't shut down.this log out.how to solve this problem.i'm try many trick but do not solve it14:17
n0rb0tboboma: :)14:18
ikoniamashud: how are you shutting it down ?14:19
n0rb0tcfhowlett: I don't know if it has something to do but my resolution is set to 3200x1800 and I use scaled display to be able to read text14:20
cfhowlettn0rb0t, well, high resolution video would take more processing power.  try a low res version to test14:21
n0rb0tit's the native resolution of the screen and it worked like a charm on usblive14:22
n0rb0tcfhowlett: it's the native resolution of the screen and it worked like a charm on usblive14:22
cfhowlettmy ***guess*** is that there's a misconfigured setting.  sorry I can't be more specific but ... try this.  login to your guest user account and play a video.  if it's not frakked for the guest, the issue is in your user settings.14:24
n0rb0tok I will try it14:24
n0rb0tcfhowlett: thanks14:24
cfhowletthappy2help!14:24
Jack_Sparrow__n0rb0t, How much video ram in your system.?14:25
DexterFhi14:26
n0rb0tJack_Sparrow__:         Memory at db000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]         Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]14:27
n0rb0tJack_Sparrow__: Dell HD 520 graphics14:27
DexterFforgot passwd of old machine, unencrypted, physical access, 16.04. tried boot with init=/bin/bash, gives me root shell alright but cannot passwd user, authentication token manipulation error. how do i reset the passwd?14:28
boboman0rb0t, well, if it's not happening with the live-cd you might have installed something/modified something. I do not know how to rollback e.g. the intel driver installation. But my suggestion: Before spending hours finding out the problem you might consider reinstallation14:28
n0rb0tboboma: I can't reinstall it will take very long to recover all my stuff14:29
tomreynDexterF: do this before you passwd: mount -o remount,rw /14:29
boboman0rb0t, i didn't follow the thread but maybe setting up a new user solves the problem as well. Maybe some user-specific mis-configuration. You might test that as well14:30
n0rb0tI will try this and come back then (I can pastebin my systemctl startup in case)14:30
n0rb0tboboma: thanks brb14:30
DexterFtomreyn, thanks. the things you forget after a while :)14:31
tomreyn;-)14:31
composmentishow do I totally remove a package? I installed Vivaldi Browser but something is wrong in the config. I did sudo purge vivaldi-stable - it runs, but when I re-download and sudo dpkg -i vivaldi.... my settings are still there. I checked in /home/*hidden files* but there's no vivaldi14:32
BluesKajco  you have to purge the browser to get rid of the buggy config files14:32
BluesKajcomposmentis,^14:33
composmentisHow do I purge the browser? I did the standard cookie/cache delete. My problem is that the browser settings won't open :p14:34
DexterFcan one revert a fresh installation to OEM setup?14:34
Jack_Sparrow__!purge14:34
ubottuTo purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | sudo xargs dpkg -P14:34
composmentisWill try now, 1m thanks14:35
MonkeyDustcomposmentis  also try this ... sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c14:35
ZSkyHi!14:37
n0rb0tboboma:14:37
ZSkymy PHP email function mail(...) seems to use: /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i14:37
n0rb0tboboma: I didn't happen with a new user ...14:37
ZSkyIs this sendmail or postfix or something else?14:37
composmentisMonkeyDust, ubottu - I ran both of those. I'll try to re-install now & see if it's cleared my session/settings14:38
n0rb0tboboma: *It* didn't happen with a new user ...14:38
composmentisMy session still persists..14:39
n0rb0tboboma: I will try to remove the display scale to see if I still get the lags I am using kubuntu's option to scale up the display to have readable text @3200x180014:40
n0rb0tboboma: wbrb14:40
n0rb0t_boboma: I display scaling didn't change anything same problem again ...14:45
n0rb0t_boboma: display scaling didn't change anything same problem again ...14:45
juanonymousOff topic, what is the danger of exposing your public ip?14:47
femalemonkeymanQuite a lot14:47
juanonymousAside from getting ddosed?14:47
tomreynyes that's offtopic14:47
ikoniajuanonymous: as you said, it's offtopic here14:48
ikoniatry a networking or security channel14:48
n0rb0t_boboma: any ideas that could help me :) thanks again!14:48
rdhjuanonymous, risk of someone testing our your routers security14:48
juanonymousPeople there on security are asses14:48
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juanonymousrdh, is that possible?14:49
cfhowlett!ot | juanonymous please continue in the other channel.14:49
ubottujuanonymous please continue in the other channel.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:49
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juanonymousAlryt sorry14:50
n0rb0t_boboma: I solved it I reset to default the compositing modules by falling back to opengl14:50
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n0rb0t_boboma: I set tearing prevention to automatic with a normal animation speed and it solved it14:50
n0rb0t_cfhowlett: fyi :)14:51
n0rb0t_thanks to both of you !!!14:51
cfhowlettthat is some fine detective work there, n0rb0t_!  good job!14:51
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lebensrauserNarakel!14:56
neutronbombtry delete partition and have it set up again with livecd14:58
neutronbombmake sure to back up all files first14:58
n0rb0tHi again I have a second problem plugging some usb keys made my whole system lag did you ever encountered such a problem?14:59
neutronbombanyone has idea how to add interface with wireshark pm pls ty14:59
n0rb0tneutronbomb: you run wireshark as root ?15:01
ikonianeutronbomb: add an interface with wireshark ?15:01
ikoniawireshark doesn't control the interfaces, it just interacts with them15:01
ikonianeutronbomb: what exactly are you trying to do15:01
n0rb0tneutronbomb: tshark which is the cli version of wireshark shoudl give you the same results and let you select your interface15:02
n0rb0tplugging some usb keys (not all) made my whole system lag did you ever encountered such a problem?15:05
royal_screwup21Hey all! Just to preface what I'm about to say, this is off-topic but please do bear with me - I'm really in need of some advice. I just wanted to say that sometimes it takes me an embarrassingly long while to express myself clearly. It's like I've got the thought in my head, but fleshing it out in *coherent* terms is a mammoth task all by itself,15:08
royal_screwup21one that takes more time to accomplish than most other people. And as a student of computer science, I realize this puts me in the backseat straight away. It's embarrassing enough that I don't have the technical expertise to accurately pin-point the subtleties of a problem, but to struggle at attempts at *expressing* the problem itself is... pretty15:08
royal_screwup21 sad.  What do you guys suggest I do to remedy this?15:08
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schahermacheri have a system crash that i think is a hardware issue15:20
schahermacherit is happen that system totally freeze, this can happen both during work or idle15:21
thundeerin gnome, how to i tab to subwindows when using the happy hacking keyboard. apparently im missing that key normally used for sub selecting windows. how do i get around that?15:22
tomreynschahermacher: alright, this is ##ubuntu - hardware issues are not ubuntu issues. if you'll chnage your mind and start thinking it's an ubuntu issue, this can be discussed here.15:23
schahermachertomreyn, do you think if my machine running ubuntu it is still not an issue? think you being overcritical sir15:23
ioriaschahermacher, i'd check the video drivers, than the ram , then the disk15:23
thundeerguess its a gnome question really, but maybe some of you guys have an idea to what to do15:24
schahermacheriora, not the ram or disk definitely15:24
ioriaschahermacher, ok, what video driver in use ?15:24
tomreynschahermacher: you said you think it's a hardware (so not software, so not ubuntu) issue, i just commented on it.15:24
thundeeralso.. if anyone have ubuntu running on an imac, which i have, i wonder if someone figured out how to control the brightness of the screen.15:25
hackalHi, there I have bunch of random folders in `photos/` folder. I would like to optimize the images by running `jpegoptim --size=500k *.jpg` in each folder. Is there a command which could help me automate this (ie. loop over all the folders and run the command) Thank you15:25
schahermacherioria, here is an example of syslog at the timing of the crash https://paste.debian.net/933481/15:25
schahermacherstarting at line 45 iora15:26
atonyhh15:27
ioriaschahermacher, what you mean exactly with 'crash' ?  irresponsive, random logout or reboot ? what ?15:28
schahermacherioria i mean system freezing15:28
ioriaschahermacher, have you tried the Guest Account ?15:28
schahermachersorry to misspel your nickname in previous message15:28
schahermacherfor what?15:28
thundeerokay. i guess i could map the super+esc key?? gnome tweak?15:29
ioriaschahermacher, if it's a compiz issue, the guest account its not tied to your personal settings15:29
thundeerwhat controls the brightness in Ubuntu?15:29
atonyme too15:29
schahermacherallright i check and report back, thank you15:30
schahermacherit will take time i guess15:30
atonyhow to control15:30
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integrityubuntu is a hitler software and mark shuttlerworth is a fucking faggot15:32
integrityjfyi15:32
thundeerHitler could'nt even type15:33
BluesKajtell us how you really feel :-)15:33
integrityhow do you know15:33
integrityi feel cool15:33
integritywas just testing how long i stay here without ban15:33
integrityim surprised tbh15:33
integrityprobably a word record15:34
BluesKajis that all you want is some attention , them you need a shrink15:34
integritythere we go lol15:34
BluesKajthen even15:34
backboxhi15:34
integrityi already have a shrink15:34
integrityhi15:34
thundeerintegrity, update to windows 10! It will give you time to re-think your life15:35
integritynah i run freebsd15:35
integrityand windows 7 on corporate laptop15:35
integritythey dont seem to be very eager to upgrade15:35
Haugli92Isnt regular users allowed to change owner of their own folder? (chown)?15:35
integrityHaugli92: they are15:35
Haugli92chown: changing group of 'test/': Operation not permitted15:36
integrityoh owner, no15:36
integritysorry15:36
integritywhois -h 199.7.59.74 microsoft.com15:37
integritylovely command to try15:37
integrityhttp://i.magaimg.net/img/io4.png15:38
integrityso15:38
integrityim gonna forward hitler software to ubuntu.com15:39
Jack_Sparrow__Format of command ?sudo chown -R shannon:shannon /media/UserData15:39
integrityat hitler.consulting we provide our customers with the final solution to their tech issues.15:40
Haugli92Anyone know why not regular users isnt allowed to change owner of a folder?15:41
integrityHaugli92: because it would be a security fuckup15:41
integrityyou people forget to use google and rtfm?15:42
integrity*forgot15:42
Haugli92What is google? :D15:42
integrityyeah you sound like an ubuntu user15:42
integrityaka moron15:42
integrityno offense15:42
Haugli92Forget it then. I did understand now :P15:42
Haugli92if i make a script to shutdown a server.. change it to owner of root as 777 and ... gogo15:43
Haugli92:D15:43
integrityprobably not to 77715:44
Haugli92Or 700 doesnt matter15:44
integritybecause other random user can rewrite it15:44
Haugli92but i 777 i can run a script owned by root as a regular user15:44
* Bischoop integrity: has low self esteem and has to add +5 to his ego by abusing others LOL15:45
Haugli92integrity: I was just poiting out the securityrisk :P15:45
integrityBischoop: learn how to use /me lol15:45
integrityu really hurt my feelings15:45
Bischoopintegrity: Who cares LOL15:45
integrityyeah i def. have low self esteem15:45
integritystill virgin in 43 too15:46
BischoopYou've superpower LOL15:46
integrityfucking a, i am15:46
thundeerintegrity, you are being disrespectful.15:46
integrityi know15:46
Bischoopintegrity: That why you've to spend so much time online LOL15:48
integrityhow do you know how much time online i spend?15:49
integritydude15:49
integritybut wait, i get it now lol15:49
integritythese should be "insults"15:50
Combined2857Cannonical has released a survey for the upcoming Ubuntu with GNOME  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScjS6ZepQ9wkAbh6Z02Q9Y3M4tsGREOOxYh-D2gN1eOsauvuQ/viewform?c=0&w=115:50
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tgm4883Combined2857: seems like spam and is off topic for this channel16:06
Combined2857tgm4883: lol16:06
Combined2857off topic for this channel ?16:06
tgm4883Combined2857: yea, this is the support channel16:06
Combined2857yeah ok16:07
tgm4883Combined2857: #ubuntu-discuss is probably a better channel for that16:07
uxfisu/query jaybe16:08
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azizLIGHTi ran out of space on / while doing some apt-get upgrade16:23
azizLIGHThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24618304/16:23
azizLIGHTim looking at my / and i dont see what there is i can deleteto creat space besides /tmp16:24
MonkeyDustazizLIGHT  start wath   sudo apt autoremove16:25
BluesKajazizLIGHT, run sudo apt-get autoremove to make more space16:25
MonkeyDustwith*16:25
selckinazizLIGHT: looks like your /boot not /16:25
azizLIGHTlsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618355/16:26
selckinazizLIGHT: kernels got a lot bigger, if its an old install they made the /boot partition too small, you can autoremove to delete the previous kernel and then apt-get upgrade again to continue16:26
azizLIGHTand what about my broken/interrupted apt-get command16:28
azizLIGHTand those packages16:28
selckinit will try again16:29
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azizLIGHThow do i know everything worked? heres the output of autoremove: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618408/16:35
azizLIGHTi still see / as 100% used16:35
azizLIGHTactually 25mb left16:35
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MonkeyDustazizLIGHT  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/16:38
tgm4883azizLIGHT: 'df -h'16:39
azizLIGHTtgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618434/ or http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618435/16:40
azizLIGHTlsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618355/16:41
azizLIGHTis that script safe to use16:41
rodrigot23does ubuntu 17.04 work cooler than ubuntu 16.0416:41
rodrigot23?16:41
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  define 'cooler'16:42
rodrigot23less cpu not overheating16:42
rodrigot23moneyrust i dont get it in ubuntu 12.04 i didnt have overheating issues16:43
tgm4883I'm not aware of any cooling properties of Ubuntu16:44
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  yes, install thermald, it runs as a daemon16:44
rodrigot23moneydust is it proven that thermald works?16:44
Jack_Sparrow__some of the issues were device specific, or bios specific but upgrading to latest kernels help many of os. My issue was dmac and apci16:45
augur97_you could also try to update to a newer kernel16:45
tgm4883cleaning out your computer helps too. Lots of dust bunnies can accumulate in 5 years16:46
BluesKajrodrigot23, use the tab key to autocomplete users nicks here rather than spell them incorrectly16:47
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  type 2-3 characters of a name, then hit tab to autocomplete16:47
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  try it if you want proof16:48
tgm4883azizLIGHT: 'dpkg -l | grep linux' and 'uname -a'16:48
rodrigot23MonkeyDust, okay is it proven or not?16:48
azizLIGHTtgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618485/16:49
azizLIGHTLinux fractal 3.13.0-116-generic #163-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:13:22 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux16:49
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  the devs test everything, before they put in the repos16:49
MonkeyDustput it in*16:50
rodrigot23MonkeyDust, did the name highlight?16:50
MonkeyDustrodrigot23  it did16:51
rodrigot23MonkeyDust, thank god16:51
rodrigot23MonkeyDust, are you on the latest ubuntu16:52
azizLIGHTtgm4883: how about: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-3.13.0-101-generic linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic linux-image-3.13.0-111-generic linux-image-3.13.0-112-generic linux-image-3.13.0-113-generic linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic16:52
tgm4883azizLIGHT: I'd go through and manually tell apt to remove the old kernels  'linux-headers-3.13.0-100' linux-headers-3.13.0-101      linux-headers-3.13.0-110 linux-headers-3.13.0-111......  yea do that ;)16:52
tgm4883no need to purge, just remove16:52
azizLIGHTthis would create space on /boot ? but what about /16:52
tgm4883azizLIGHT: we'll worry about that next16:53
azizLIGHTshould i also tell it the one that i tried to install but havent booted into yet, the one thats new: 11916:53
azizLIGHTso i can add it in later without errors16:53
tgm4883no need to16:53
azizLIGHThmmmm ok16:54
azizLIGHTits working on it... its gonna free 1,561mb16:57
azizLIGHTfrom /boot i suppose16:57
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azizLIGHThmm i accidentally removed the new one (not current one haha)16:58
azizLIGHTi only have one left, the one im booted on16:58
tgm4883azizLIGHT: ok, so you've got free space on /boot now, but not /17:00
azizLIGHTwell, more space now, than before, on both yes, but still would like to clear more space17:02
tgm4883azizLIGHT:  'du / | sort -n -r | head -n 20'17:03
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azizLIGHTits going across filesystems17:05
azizLIGHTdu -x17:05
azizLIGHTi did your cmmand with -x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24618618/17:06
azizLIGHTtgm4883: ^^17:06
azizLIGHTi saw this stuff in ncdu but it all looked important17:06
tgm4883azizLIGHT: you don't have a super large / to begin with and it's not like logs are taking up a ton of space17:07
tgm4883azizLIGHT: you'll probably need to uninstall some stuff17:07
azizLIGHThmm17:08
azizLIGHTwhat about clearing out /tmp17:08
azizLIGHTtherse 1gb in there17:08
tgm4883azizLIGHT: shouldn't be necessary, that should be tmpfs17:09
azizLIGHTactually /run is tmpfs17:09
tgm4883azizLIGHT: /tmp should be as well17:10
LupusWho can help me to install libssh-0.1 on my Ubuntu Server 17.04?17:11
jinxi1hi17:11
jinxi1how do I troubleshoot the start up time of my applications?17:12
jinxi1I have ubuntu installed on a SSD and yet Chrome starts in like 3 seconds.17:12
jinxi1on windows  it is about 1.5s17:12
pavlushkaLupus: need help still?17:13
Lupuspavlushka, yes.17:14
Lupuspavlushka, could you help me?17:16
tgm4883Lupus: why do you want libssh-0.1?17:16
LupusFor a penetration test.17:16
LupusAn executable requires it.17:17
tgm4883Lupus: isn't 0.1 super old?17:17
LupusI think it is the first published version.17:18
tgm4883seems like you need to find an updated executable...17:18
LupusBut I have to execute just ./configure, make & make install.17:18
LupusTo install it.17:18
LupusBut I encounter an error when I execute the make command.17:18
LupusWhen it has to compile something.17:18
azizLIGHTjinxi1: allowed chrome to run in background on windows and not in linux?17:19
LupusI tried to install it on many operating systems.17:19
azizLIGHTjinxi1: you may have some chrome app running on boot on windows, and none on linux, even if chrome allowed to run in background... it might not be started in the background17:19
Lupustgm4883, can you help me? I have installed the libssh-dev & the libssl-dev.17:19
Lupushttps://www.libssh.org/files/0.1/ Here you can find the archive.17:20
Lupuslibssh-0.1.tgz17:20
pavlushkaLupus: can you paste the error when you execute the make command ?17:20
LupusOkay.17:21
LupusWait, I'll put it on pastebin.17:21
LupusWait a minute.17:21
LupusI have to download the archive again.17:22
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jinxi1azizLIGHT: thanks for your answer.17:22
jinxi1azizLIGHT: maybe you are right. I will check next time I boot into Windows.17:23
jinxi1azizLIGHT: any way to improve the start up time of chrome on linux?17:23
m5lToday my dualboot-windows crashed and I lost some files. https://pastebin.com/WgfunrQV Should I be worried about my ssd?17:23
Lupushttps://pastebin.com/Ktcw2E5317:24
LupusOkay, there's my error.17:24
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LupusI have tried to recompile them with -fPIC, but without results.17:25
enoch85hey guys, I'm having strange issues with kernel panics... I have a server running Nextcloud, and as soon as I activate an app or do anything other than syncing files this happens: http://i.imgur.com/Sf6k4wU.png17:29
ioriaLupus, are you 32 bit ?17:29
enoch85I have no clue where to start looking17:29
Lupusioria, 64bit.17:29
ioriaLupus, so17:29
enoch85I've checked kern.log and dmseg but can't find the full message17:29
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Lupusenoch85, I don't really know what's your issue, but try to reboot the server and try again if you can.17:30
enoch85Lupus, yes, but I want to solve it for good, I mean I don't want to have to restart a production server everytime someone installs an app17:32
Lupusenoch85, just try to reboot.17:33
Lupusioria, can you help me?17:33
enoch85Lupus, yes, but that's not solving the main issue, the issue is still there17:33
enoch85Lupus, if I try to install an app after I rebooted I get kernel panic again17:33
Lupusenoch85, did you search on google? Maybe someone had your error once.17:34
enoch85Lupus, yes I did17:34
ioriaLupus, compile your code using the -mcmodel=large which will  relocate  type to R_X86_64_64 and not (as you see) R_X86_64_PC3217:34
Lupusioria, you mean I have to compile those scripts after make?17:34
ioriaLupus, nope, http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/11/11/position-independent-code-pic-in-shared-libraries-on-x64/17:34
Lupusioria, I didn't get you. What I really have to do?17:35
ioriaLupus, you need to change the Makefile (and possibly act on a 32 bit os)17:36
Some_PersonWhat filesystem is well-supported under both Windows and Linux these days?17:36
ioriaLupus, btw, too much warnings...17:36
Lupusioria, where I have to edit the Makefile? Please, help me! :(17:37
ioriaLupus, why are doing this, if i may ask ?17:37
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LupusI have told you that, for a penetration test.17:38
BluesKajSome_Person, don't think there's commonly supported filesystem for Windows and Linux17:38
LupusI wanna test it on my server.17:38
Lupusioria, I can't compile it, because I can't install its library.17:39
ioriaLupus, yes, too old17:39
LupusThe make command has a compilation too, and it has an error.17:39
LupusSo, who can help me?17:40
LupusOr on what system I should try?17:40
BluesKajSome_Person, however Linux does does support NTFS filesystem, but windows doesn't upport extfs17:40
pavlushkaLupus: possibly act on a 32 bit os as ioria said17:41
LupusOkay.17:41
LupusLet's install Ubuntu Server on 32bit.17:41
akikSome_Person: there are a couple of apps that enable r/w ext3 file system on windows: ext2fsd and fs-driver17:42
pavlushkaBluesKaj: Depends on what kind of support you are expecting from the systems.17:43
BluesKajpavlushka, no kidding17:43
Some_Personakik: But how well does that actually work? Would prefer native support, especially on the Windows side17:44
ioriaLupus, well, stop, it actually compile on 64 bit :þ17:44
akikSome_Person: it works but it's not built-in to windows17:44
pavlushkaBluesKaj: you are expecting the systems to run on a common type of partition?17:44
Lupusioria, really?17:44
LupusIt works for you?17:44
LupusLol, I'm downloading the Ubuntu Server 17.04 32bit image now!17:45
ioriaLupus, yes, this one right ? https://www.libssh.org/files/0.1/ 1.117:45
LupusI know, but I need 0.1.17:45
LupusI have tried wtih 1.1.17:45
Lupuswith*17:45
Lupus0.1.1*17:46
Some_Personakik: But how well? I need something that won't bottleneck disk I/O17:46
BluesKajSome_Person, Linux supports NTFS especially if it's just used for data storage17:46
ioriaLupus, libssh-0.1.1.tgz is ok on kenel 4.4 64 bit17:46
akikSome_Person: i've not ran any benchmarks17:46
LupusYeah, but I can't with it.17:46
LupusI will try on 32bit.17:47
psychoticwarriorhello17:47
psychoticwarriorhows it going ppl17:48
marqueziniguys good afternon. i have a braswell n3700 processor, dell inspiron 5000. comes with ubuntu 14.04, works well, but i reinstalled the system with ubuntu 16.04 and the fan don't stop spinning very loud, i see the psensor info and the rpm of fan is 0, the processor temperature is 40 C, and the thermald display a bug on status message, how i can fix this issue, anybody know?17:50
Some_PersonWhat about exFAT?17:53
akikmarnikow: one thing you might want to test/change is the acpi_osi kernel parameter. use this command to get the value for the parameter: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" (get the newest version of the output windows versions)17:54
akikhmm that was for marquezini17:54
akikmarquezini: then edit /etc/default/grub and add the key and value as follows: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\", then run "sudo update-grub"17:55
akikmarquezini: you need to escape the value like that if there's a space in it GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\""17:56
marquezinii need update acpi command of grub boot?18:02
akikmarquezini: the new key/value goes into /etc/default/grub18:02
marquezinii post the question on ubuntu stackoverflow, i put the output of thermald, see if you can define the error cause18:03
marquezinihttps://askubuntu.com/questions/917481/inspiron-5000-n3700-processor-bug-fan-dont-stop-spinning-very-loud18:03
gesterI need some help understanding Disks and SMART tests....I see "old age" and "pre-fail" under "type" in brand new drives18:04
gesterI have just formatted and loaded data to new external drives. I ran the SMART test and see all these labels and am worried18:06
gesterperhaps I am interpreting it wrong?18:06
marquezinii will try tk akik18:06
fallentreegester: "old age" attributes mean the normalized value is lowering with age, and "pre-fail" attributes mean they're indicators of failure as the normalized value goes down toward the threshold18:07
malkaunsany idea what causes the massive memory leak in gnome-shell 3.24.0 on Ubuntu 17.04?18:08
gester@fallentree: can you take a look at the results and help me interpret? I don't know if it means these are all old and ready to fail...or if thats just what kind of test.18:08
gesterIm a super noob18:08
fallentreegester: this will de-noob you then:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.18:08
gesterthanks...I am loading the screenshots to Imgur...would you take a look for me?18:09
fallentreegester: if I have to18:09
gesterlol...you dont HAVE to..id just like someone smarter than me to see it18:10
gesterhttp://imgur.com/a/sw5x9 two different drives18:10
fallentreegester: I can take a look if you want it, but that won't help you much. you should read that wiki as it explains what individual attributes mean, which ones you should keep an eye on.18:11
fallentreegester: plus, a disk can fail with zero warning from the SMART attributes.18:11
gesterI am reading it...I just don't understand if the old age and prefail indications in the results are status warnings...as in the disk is in a prefail status etc18:11
gesteror the disk is "old" based on results18:12
fallentreegester: no, they just describe the kind of attribute, not the state of the disk18:12
gesterah ok....scared me to see every row as old age or prefail...told you I was a noob18:12
fallentreeand again, the article would explain. you should look at normalized values. the lower they are, the "worse" the situation is.18:12
gesteris there a better way to check HDD health?18:13
mubuntuhello18:13
mubuntu!list18:13
ubottumubuntu: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:13
frostschutzgester, the smart values only reflect what the disk itself knows about... run long selftest (reads the entire drive) regularly, if that passes and there are no reallocated/pending/uncorrectable sectors, the drive is likely okay18:15
gesteris a long selftest a day long thing on a 2TB drive over USB 2.0?18:15
fallentreegester: could be two :)18:15
frostschutzgester, this test is performed by the drive itself so it should go at the drive's full speed, usb1/2/3 doesn't make a difference for that18:16
gesteryeah it took 48 hours to zero a drive18:16
gesterah ok...how long do you think a 2tb drive should take for a long test?18:16
gester5400rpm seagate external18:16
fallentreegester: the smartctl -a usually states how long18:17
wisheCan someone help me fix my sound? I have run alsamixer, checked all the levels, check in pulse audio control and there is sound playing. Speakers work fine but the audio jack for headphones is playing no sound. When i plug my headphones in the dialog comes up for me to choose device, like headset, headphones or whatever. But there is no sound. Anyone know how i can diagnose this?18:17
frostschutzgester, 384 minutes18:17
gesterlong time then...thanks18:17
YankDownUnderwishe, try: pavucontrol18:18
wishei have18:18
wisheSet it to headphones(plugged in) and no sound comes out18:18
fallentreegester: Ideally you should look at two things. The reallocated/pending/uncorrectable errors as frostschutz said, and dmesg / logs for any appearance of IO failures, repeats, etc...18:18
gesterim not understanding the "normalized" "threshold" and "worst" colums in the test. The first and last are the same numbers...threshold is usually 0 or a low number18:19
gesterI dont see anything in the wiki page that explains those18:19
fallentreegester: it does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes18:19
wisheIt's crazy that people say Ubuntu is more stable than Windows, I have experienced nothing but problems with 16.04. Problems with sound, videocard, desktop stuttering, window manager.18:20
fallentreegester: basically, raw values can mean anything. eg. "error counts" could be exactly that, or some vendor specific binary format with flags'n all where an apparently large number has nothing to do with actual count of errors18:20
wisheAnd I have Win 10 on my home computer, and there has not been one issue18:20
gesterit doesnt say what those three categories mean18:20
wisheUnfortunately the terminal is shite on windows and i need it for my job18:21
fallentreegester: so vendors "normalize" them on the scale of 1-255, with lower values meaning "worse"18:21
wisheBut honestly I am very very dissapointed18:21
fallentreegester: "normalized" is the normalized raw value, like I just explained. "threshold" is a vendor-specific threshold of the "normalized" value below which disk is in failure state.18:22
fallentreegester: "worst" is the last recorded "worst" normalized value18:22
fallentreeie. lowest18:22
Lupusioria, it worked on 32bit and I compiled that executable file, but it has an error: root@ubuntu:~/libssh-0.1# /usr/sbin/sshd: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/sshd: undefined symbol: ssh_getopt.18:23
mubuntu /msg alis LIST searchterm18:23
gesteri will give you an example....start/stop count sayes 152 for my drive. Normalized for it is 100...Threshold 0....Worst 100. I don't know how to interpret that as it seems 152 ia bad as its over18:23
wishehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24619008/ This is the output when i try to restore the ctrl18:23
YankDownUnderwishe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure18:24
ioriaLupus, ..., not sure what it's missing now18:25
fallentreegester: it means the disk started or stopped spinning18:25
wisheYankDownUnder: Seems a bit extreme considering the audio was working fine on friday18:25
LupusI have in that script written in C ssh_getopt.18:25
LupusI have read the API.txt of libssh-0.1, but that option is correct.18:25
fallentreethe raw count is probably the actual count, ie. 152 times. that's not bad at all. the vendor gives that value a normalized value of 100 which usually means best. over time, it'll go towards 018:26
AkiSanIf Ubuntu Studio, for whatever reason, is installed on a 32 GB USB 2.0 pen drive, how much time does it take?18:26
AkiSanIf Ubuntu Studio, for whatever reason, is installed on a 32 GB USB 2.0 pen drive, how much time does it take?18:27
gesterI know what it means...I dont know how it correlates to those categories....its higher than normalized and worst...18:27
fallentreegester: like I explained, the raw count is not on the same scale with normalized18:27
YankDownUnderwishe, If it was working fine, work backwards through the issues. What was changed and/or installed since the last time it worked. Logically walk through it step by step backwards. And please don't launch blame into the channel and "how much better Windows is" stuff...if you want help, and want to resolve this, stick to the topic and do not "diss" the OS, bro.18:27
MonkeyDustAkiSan  how much time does it take to do what18:27
fallentreegester: look, the raw value is vendor specific, so the "normalize" scale is there to put a meaning on the raw value .the higher the normalized, on a scale of 0-255, the "better" the state of it. 100 is some starting point for most values, some start with 20018:28
wisheYankDownUnder: I cannot work backwards, all i did was put the laptop in standby18:28
AkiSanI made a bootable USB drive using Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS. I am trying to install that on my brand new computer which does not have any any OS installed. It has been 5 hours, the installation is progressing at snails pace. I am wondering, if the installation is happening on the USB drive or the hard disk?18:29
wisheYankDownUnder: Ofcourse I am annoyed, I am trying to get work done and I cant listen to music because I am running buggy software18:29
wisheThis is not something i caused18:29
MonkeyDustAkiSan  a normal vanilla installation takes about 20 minutes18:30
Bashing-omAkiSan: Install should be but a matter of minutes . Are you on a wired connection ?18:30
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wishe_YankDownUnder: I dont know why you are complaining about me talking about faults that exist. I specified the problems and theyre real, it is not some OS comparison18:32
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chaoticozHello.18:37
chaoticozI am using ubuntu 17.04 on a Thinkpad T430, powertop reports a battery discharge rate of 19.5 Watts, is this normal? too high? what are your experiences?18:37
Ichimusaichaoticoz: Normal.18:38
iopqI have a problem running a full screen Wine game in Unity, but it works fine in LXDE18:39
uddaneHas anyone ever gotten Vudu to Go to work under Wine?18:39
iopqis there a way to just run LXDE in a different virtual monitor while running Unity?18:40
chaoticozThanks Ichimusai.18:40
Ichimusaichaoticoz: Runnoing a T420s myself, about the same.18:40
chaoticozok good to know.18:40
wishe_YankDownUnder: After following instructions in your link, the audio jack does not even register inputs anymore18:41
IchimusaiYou can set various performance/powersave things if you have the tools.18:41
chaoticozi installed tlp and issued tlp start18:41
chaoticozthats all i did atm. anything more i can do?18:41
YankDownUnderwishe_, Ubuntu's support link, not mine.18:41
Ichimusaichaoticoz: You can echo 0/1 to turn off/on cores as needed in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/online18:42
wishe_YankDownUnder: Thats fine18:43
Ichimusaiwhere cpuN is the core, cpu1, cpu2 cpu3 etc.18:43
IchimusaiThat saves a bit.18:43
YankDownUnderwishe_, Power off the laptop for 30 seconds. Try again.18:43
wishe_LOL18:43
IchimusaiYou can use cpufreq-set in order to limit the clock and save power etc.18:43
IchimusaiAnd there is a widget for the top bar where you can chose between power save or performance18:44
wishe_Thanks YankDownUnder18:44
YankDownUnderwishe_, Last week I got on a train and rode for nearly an hour for the same issue - got to the client's site, powered off the damn laptop, turned it back on - and the sound worked. Paid in full, hour train ride back home. Try everything. Always try everything.18:46
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chaoticozIchimusai, i'll have a look at the widget18:47
chaoticozthanks alot18:47
enoch85still nobody that can help me with this? I have googled for like 5 hours now and I can't find what the cause could be: http://i.imgur.com/Sf6k4wU.png18:47
wishe_YankDownUnder: I dont have time to sit for an hour and wait and see if something works18:47
enoch85I run a server with Nextcloud and everytime I try to install an app it happens18:47
enoch85I found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34834520/kernel-panic-not-syncing-fatal-exception-in-interrupt-in-openstack-vm which is close, but it doesn't say what I should do18:48
YankDownUnderwishe_, If you don't have time to fix something or figure it out, then it must not be important. Fair enough.18:48
enoch85I can't find the whole message in any logs either18:48
Ichimusaienoch85: Not easy when thats all the info.18:48
wishe_Haha, ok. Please dude, stop! I have a computer to do my work on, not sit and dabble to fix audio and video issues every week18:48
wishe_I have already spent hours on these issues18:48
enoch85here is a pretty close google search for it: https://www.google.se/search?q=native_safe_halt+default_idle+arch_cpu_idle+defualt_idle_call+kernel+panic+-+not+syncing%3A+fatal+exception+in+interupt&oq=native_safe_halt+default_idle+arch_cpu_idle+defualt_idle_call+kernel+panic+-+not+syncing%3A+fatal+exception+in+interupt&aqs=chrome..69i57.499j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-818:49
wishe_When it should be working fine without having to do this bullshit18:49
enoch85Ichimusai, yeah I know... it's a VM and I can't scroll in that window ;/18:49
Ichimusaienoch85: It's likely you have a trashed file system. Mount the virtual disks in another machine, run whatever checks you need to repair, then try again.18:49
Ichimusaienoch85: Might have been powered down without unmounting or VM has suffered a stop issue.18:50
YankDownUnderwishe_, Your computer, your issue. Happy Monday.18:50
Ichimusaienoch85: But since most VMs have the hard drives as files anyways you can mount them from another VM and do the file system checks.18:50
enoch85Ichimusai, the strange thing is that it's exaclty the same beahviour on another VM I installed after this one as well... I run a total of 16 VMs and the last two I created have this issue18:51
enoch85Ichimusai, the dofference is that I run HWE kernels from start, don't know if that could be it?18:51
enoch85difference*18:51
Ichimusaienoch85: Try to repair the disks first. It's a common issue if the booting kernel can't read the modules.18:52
tomreynenoch85: what's the host OS and version, what's the guest OS and version, which virtualization and version, which hardware? where (host, guest) does nextcloud run?18:52
iopqwhen I switch to tty2 and do startlxde it says cannot open display18:53
enoch85Ichimusai, host OS: ESXi 6.5, Guest OS: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (4.8 HWE) Virtualization version (13), Hardware is 64 GB ECC with dual Xeon e5 267018:54
hopussomehow I deleted the hidden lost+found directory from an external drive. I am finding confusing conflicts about if its needed. It seems to be a root only permission directory and I am not sure how I deleted it since I tried and failed on a second drive18:54
enoch85Ichimusai, nextcloud runs on the Ubuntu server guest18:54
akikhopus: you can just recreate it18:54
hopusI have seen conflicing commands as to how to restore it...and some links saying its very important for possible corruption18:54
enoch85Ichimusai, when you say repair the disks, how do you mean specifically? just create another machine and import the disks, or what?18:55
enoch85Ichimusai, never done that before18:55
hopusakik do I have to do it a special way? I tried mklost+found like I found on one link and it just made a normal directory18:55
hopushow do I do it properly so its the hidden, root, preallocated directory?18:55
akikhopus: it is a normal directory18:55
ikoniahopus: it will re-create if it's needed18:56
hopuswell I mean when the system makes it its hidden, and root only...and also apparently has some preallocated blocks...when I made it manually I just made a plan old directory18:56
hopusikonia i read fsck will recreate it but it didn't18:56
ikoniadon't make it manually18:56
Ichimusaihopus: lost+found do have special properties in some file systems. It is automatically recreated properly if you run fsck on the volume so that's the proper way of handling that.18:56
mubuntuciao18:56
mubuntu!list18:56
ubottumubuntu: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:56
ikoniaif the system needs to make it, it will make it18:56
akikhopus: it is not "hidden"18:56
ikoniaif it doesn't it won't18:56
mubuntuhello18:57
hopusits hidden and with root only permissions on my drives18:57
mubuntu!list18:57
hopus@Ichimusai how do I do that properly? I tried running fsck and had issues18:57
hopusim not very skilled at this stuff18:57
tomreynenoch85: why the hwe kernel? is that known to work in this version of esxi? the vmware proprietary network driver you are using, vmxnet, is apparently involved in the kernel panic (base don the screenshot you posted). have you verified that it is compatible with the HWE kernel?18:58
ikoniahopus: don't worry about it, let the system deal with it, if it needs it, it will make it18:58
Ichimusaihopus: You need to run fsck with write permisson and that means fs needs to be offline, so if its the root fs you need to do it from say a rescue CD/pendrive.18:58
hopusikonia I see some results saying this...others sayinf you need it18:58
akikhopus: sudo mkdir lost+found; sudo chmod 700 lost+found18:58
hopusichimusai its an external HDD...not system drive18:59
ikoniahopus: I'm telling you,18:59
ikoniahopus: don't worry about it, if it's needed the system will create it, move on, get on with your life instead of worrying about it18:59
Ichimusaihopus: Fine. It should be ok with or without it but e2fsck for example will ask to recreate it if its missing.19:00
hopusikonia the problem is you are telling me this...other places say different...I dont know who to believe so I would rather have it restored jusit in case19:00
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ikoniahopus: so why are you asking then19:00
Ichimusai(Very old systems required the lost+found to be attached to inode #2 but that is no longer required, but in those days the file system had to be recreated in case the lost+found was unlinked...)19:01
ikoniahopus: as if I tell you this, you'll just say " someone tell me different" if someone tells you different, I'll say "this is the case" what do you want from this channel ?19:01
hopusikonia people even in here are giving different asnwers19:01
tomreynenoch85: you're apparently not around, so i'll be afk for now, too.19:01
ikoniahopus: what do you want from this channel ?19:01
hopusso dont be offended or make it about ego please19:01
hopusikonia I am talking to others now ok? i heard your view19:01
centaur5The network manager in 17.04 doesn't let you set a search domain for openvpn. Any solution for this?19:01
enoch85tomreyn, I am19:01
ikoniahopus: I'm not offended and it's not about ego, but how do you expect to use the channel19:01
hopuswhen members of a channel give differernt asnwers I have to choose one19:02
enoch85tomreyn, sorry, was off19:02
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hopusso lets you and I drop it19:02
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ikoniahopus: right and it's just going around in a loop19:02
enoch85tomreyn, no I have not checked that it's compatible19:02
ikonia"I see different views" - pick one19:02
Ichimusaihopus: Ubuntu also has a command "mklost+found" for this purpose.19:02
tomreynenoch85: okay, well do so then, or use the LTE kernel.19:02
hopus@Ichimusai can you help me run the e2fsck? how do I do that specifically19:03
enoch85tomreyn, remounting the drives as we speak to a new machine19:03
enoch85will test if that helped19:03
tomreynenoch85: i doubt it, i don't see how thats related.19:03
Ichimusaihopus: Only run the proper fsck for the file system you have.19:03
enoch85don't really know what Ichimusai meant by repairing, the guest os file system or the vmdks itself?19:03
thomas_is it possible to completely disable my second ssd in the thinkpad ultrabay?19:03
lotuspsychjethomas_: why would you do that?19:04
Ichimusaienoch85: You should repair the /boot and root file systems of the VM exhibiting the behavior you described.19:04
hopus@Ichimusai I dont know what that proper one is...how do I find out and run it? I have an external Ext4/LUKS drive I am workig with19:04
thomas_lotuspsychje, i have two ssds in my thinkpad, one with ubuntu, the second with win 10 and os x19:04
enoch85Ichimusai, ok so on the linux guest then...19:04
enoch85Ichimusai, do you have a command in hand?19:05
thomas_i am mostly running ubuntu, and when doing so i dont need the second hard drive and i am trying to save battery19:05
lotuspsychjethomas_: okay, and you want to disable what for wich reason?19:05
thomas_disable second hard disk for battery, lotuspsychje19:05
mubuntuhello19:05
lotuspsychjethomas_: if you dont gonna use hardware, plug it out physically?19:05
Ichimusaienoch85: If its an ext4 file system run fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/xxx for it19:05
mubuntu!list19:05
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Ichimusaienoch85: Similar for other fs19:05
enoch85Ichimusai, thanks19:06
enoch85will try19:06
ikoniamubuntu: you've been told - no warez here19:06
ikoniamubuntu: please stop trying19:06
Ichimusaienoch85: Remember the fs should NOT be mounted when you do this.19:06
tomreynmubuntu: why do you keep using !list?19:06
enoch85Ichimusai, it's LVM ext419:06
thomas_lotuspsychje, well, i sometimes have to use windows throughout the day, then i wouldn't want to search my second ssd :)19:06
Ichimusaienoch85: LVM is underlying the file system so focus on the file system first.19:07
IchimusaiIf the LVM maps are corrupted you are better of recreating the whole thing from scratch and installing your backup.,19:07
tgm4883thomas_: it's an SSD, it shouldn't be pulling very much power19:07
lotuspsychjethomas_: i dont think your gonna save much energy by disabling ssd219:07
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mocxzhello19:08
YankDownUndermubuntu, Se hai bisogno di essere nel canale italiano, utilizza # ubuntu-it -> altrimenti, puoi essere bandito da questo canale.19:08
lotuspsychjemocxz: welcome, what can we do for you?19:08
thomas_tgm4883, lotuspsychje, every % helps, unplugging the drive seems to save .5 watts, according to powertop19:09
hopus@Ichimusai can you help me run the proper fsck? I dont know what I am doing19:11
tgm4883thomas_: then unplug the SSD19:12
enoch85Ichimusai, it says /dev/mapper/fsgo--vg-root: clean, 193680/19505152 files, 37370167/77990912 blocks19:12
thomas_tgm4883, so it is not possible by software?19:12
enoch85so it's clean then?19:12
enoch85not corrupt?19:12
tgm4883thomas_: no, that doesn't even make sense19:13
thomas_tgm4883, why doesn't it make sense? i thought it could maybe be possible, just like disabling wifi19:14
lotuspsychjethomas_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/improve-battery-life-linux19:14
enoch85Ichimusai, I still get kernel panics after running that command19:14
akikthomas_: udisksctl has a power-off sub-command. haven't tested it ever19:15
lotuspsychje!info laptop-mode-tools | thomas_19:15
hopuscan someone help me with fsck on an ext4/luks external HDD?19:16
ubottuthomas_: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70-2ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 80 kB, installed size 367 kB19:16
hopusI am doing it wrong19:16
tgm4883thomas_: because when you disable wifi, the wifi card is still powered. It's just not using extra power to scan/tx/rx. The reason that doesn't translate to your drive is because you have an SSD and you'll still have to have it powered. If you have a HDD then it would make sense to spin the drive down, but you dont19:17
akikhopus: sudo fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/mapper/something when the luks device is not mounted19:17
thomas_akik, i tried it: https://pastebin.com/vLpBhVbb19:17
enoch85Ichimusai, tomreyn will try to downgrade kernel19:17
mubuntuhello19:18
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ubottumubuntu: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:18
thomas_lotuspsychje, installing laptop-mode-tools automatically removes tlp, is that right?19:18
mubuntu /msg ubottu !bot19:18
hopusthanks akik..trying it19:19
akikthomas_: ah ok it is for usb devices only?19:19
thomas_apparently19:19
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hopusakik I got this : toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~$ sudo fsck.ext4 -vy /dev/mapper/luks-350be4ac-bd95-4c4c-b4d9-4251446a86d0 e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) fsck.ext4: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/luks-350be4ac-bd95-4c4c-b4d9-4251446a86d0 Possibly non-existent device?19:20
hopusdisks19:20
hopusI copied the luks name from fdisk19:21
akikhopus: do you have sdxn_crypt in /dev/mapper?19:21
hopusI dont know what you mean sorry19:21
hopusI am literally just copying and pasting and dont understand this19:22
akikhopus: you need to run the fsck on one of the things under /dev/mapper19:22
ioriahopus,  boot a livecd; sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdax  sdax_crypt; then sudo fsck -f /dev/mapperwhatever-vg-root19:22
hopusioria why do I need to do that? its an external disk not a system disk19:23
ioriahopus,  ok19:23
hopusakik I am brand new...I dont understand I am sorry. I plugged the drive in...its unmounted...I found the luks ID from fdisk and put it with your command19:24
hopuscan you tell me exactly what I need to do?19:24
hopusstep by step19:24
enoch85Ichimusai, tomreyn yup, it was the kernels...19:26
enoch85downgrade soled the problem19:27
enoch85solved*19:27
hopusOk I made a typo and ran the fsck ..it says drive clean...but it didnt restore the lost+found as everyone and everything online said it would19:27
enoch85finally!19:27
hopusits so frsutrating....people say different things...nothing works as tutorials say...not sure how I am ever going to be competent at linux when I cant even get the expected results19:28
hopusbased on instructions19:28
akikhopus: sudo mkdir lost+found; sudo chmod 700 lost+found19:30
YankDownUnderhopus, Patience. Respond, don't react. As well, double/triple check "tutorials" and other "how to's" - make sure things reflect exactly what you're working ON and WITH. Reading information about a different OS version and trying to apply it will not usually work well. "Too many cooks in the kitchen will spoil the soup" - listen to one person at a time...19:31
akikhopus: and ubuntu is changing from release to release19:32
hopusIve tried...but just like now things arent working...people get irritated with you...give conflicting advice then take it personally19:32
hopusi can follow directions...but when the directions dont work I have no idea what to do19:33
hopusand every time I see direcitons I can find another link saying don't do that thing...I dont know who to trust19:33
YankDownUnderhopus, Take a deep breathe, chill for a second, then "start from the top"...and do NOT take anything personally...it's a pointless operation and a waste of energy. :)19:33
hopusive tried 3 ways now and still dont have the directory back as it was19:34
akik:)19:34
Bashing-omhopus: Consider, there are literally millions of programmers pouring over this code base continuously . Makes for a fast evolving system .19:35
abdullahHello19:36
Ichimusaihopus: I just tested it on a trial volume here and it did offer to recreated the lost+found for me. Not sure why you had no such luck.19:38
hopuswell this is what I mean...i did exactly as told...different outcome19:40
YankDownUnderhopus, Since I wasn't necessarily "listening" to your "issue" - what are you doing - just formatting a drive? Or something else...?19:42
hopusi formatted a drive to ext4/luks...i saw this lost+found directory and like a moron deleted it...not sure how I was able to now as I tried it on a second drive before I realized I shouldnt do this...and it wouldnt allow deletion19:42
ioriaman  mklost+found19:43
hopusso I was trying to restore it to the first drive...people say rinning fsck should restore it but it doesnt. The commands I can find to restore it dont restore it as before just create a normal directory19:43
YankDownUnderhopus, Er...yeah...not 'sposed to do that...(the power of "sudo"! - dangerous, that...)19:43
hopuswell now I cant get it back19:43
ioriaman  mklost+found19:44
leftyfbhopus: is the drive currently mounted?19:44
hopusno...plugged in but not mounted19:44
leftyfbhopus: do you know how to mount it19:44
leftyfb?19:44
hopusyes19:45
leftyfbhopus: ok, please do that now19:45
hopusok unlock the luks and mount right?19:46
leftyfbhopus: correct19:46
hopusit has two steps when encrypted19:46
hopusok19:46
hopusdone19:46
leftyfbhopus: ok, cd into where you mounted it19:46
hopusok19:47
leftyfbhopus: sudo mklost+found19:47
leftyfbhopus: did that work?19:48
hopusyes finally thank you...when I tried that command before I must have done it wrong19:48
hopusit just put a normal directory...not the root only one last time19:48
leftyfbthat's fine19:49
leftyfbit'll work19:49
hopusdid the sudo make it root only? maybe I didnt use sudo19:49
leftyfbremove it and try again if you like19:49
hopusi dont want to mess with it atm....knowing my luck it will bork again...thank you for helping19:50
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thyriaenid like to take a look at a graph of the top 10 distributions ( from distrowatch for example ) and see their development over time - i cannot find it on their webpage and all the graphs floating around in the web arae outdated - is there a place where those are generated ?19:57
p4tHello guys, i've a question: i'm tryin to change the brightness of my laptop (lubuntu 17.04) but when i try doing it with function button on keyboard, the laptop screen become total black. Britghness changes because on the other VGA screen i see that it change, but i cannot understand why the main screen became black20:01
ducassethyriaen: try ##linux?20:13
hank_yo what's up everyone?20:18
vandersonHi20:19
hank_Hi, how's your Sunday?20:19
* YankDownUnder looks at the clock and notices it's slightly more Monday than Sunday20:20
hank_Aussie! nice.20:20
vandersonHere in Brazil it's sunday20:21
YankDownUnderDomingo en Brasil...si...20:21
hank_i'm in canada20:21
YankDownUnderOMG, Canada is in Brazil now? Far out...things change...wow...20:21
hank_its fake news lol20:22
YankDownUnderhank_, "Fake News" - you mean "US News" when you say that, right? Hmm...20:22
hank_msm news.. we have fake news in canada too20:23
YankDownUnderhank_, Hehehehe...like "Maple Leafs win!" - that kinda fake news? ;)20:23
hank_yep! actually i'm just watching the ottawa senators getting their butts kicked by the pens!  ha ha20:24
YankDownUnderhank_, :)20:24
YankDownUnder...meanwhile, back at the ranch...20:25
vandersonHere in Brazil the president just screw up the country . lol20:25
hank_i thought she got impeached like six months ago???20:25
* oerheks wonders how this conversation is related to support20:26
YankDownUnderCuriouser and curiouser...20:26
hank_oh sorry20:26
vandersonYes, and his vice president is about to be impeach too.20:27
vandersonthis country is a mess20:27
oerheks!ot20:28
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MonkeyDustok guys, move the conversation to -offtopic20:28
vandersonsorry20:28
YankDownUnder...frustration...trying to get my head around WHY in the "Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04.2" the GTK themes aren't showing/displaying the same as in "Ubuntu 16.04.02"...errrr...20:34
supercom64Slightly off topic, but anyone here experienced in building computers? I was thinking about building a new Ubuntu machine.20:41
YankDownUndersupercom64, Get parts that are compatible.20:41
Bischoopsupercom64: sure but were not thinking about compatibility with Linux, just lucily everything went right long time ago :-)20:42
supercom64@YankDownUnder: Ya, that would save me a lot of headaches for sure. Do you know if variable torque screwdrivers are worth while? I mean in general for working with electronics?20:42
oerhekssupercom64, only if you want to open your HDD :-D20:43
Bischoopsupercom64: now you giving strange question not related even with Linux20:43
geniisupercom64: Maybe ask in ##hardware or ##electronics20:43
supercom64lol, ya probably.20:43
* Bischoop says listen to genii 20:43
supercom64But yes, I wanna get linux compatable hardware for sure.20:43
BischoopJust do it supercom6420:44
BischoopThat's good20:44
YankDownUndersupercom64, No, not really...and like oerheks said, unless you're going to perform surgery on HDD's...nah...pointless. One thing I always do - with either servers or workstations - the parts I buy are at least 1 year on the market - so they've generally got really stable drivers for devices...something to consider...20:44
supercom64Ah thats good advice.20:44
supercom64I guess you can say, it's like Chess. You always let the pawns go first.20:45
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Funky10Bhey guys......i need some help. I have a system set up now with Windows 10 CE that is installed on a M2 ssd card.... then i have a raid10 with 10T and another ssd with 120g of unallocated space... i need help installing Ubuntu on the ssd and not touch my raid or main os......and be able to dual boot ...anyone up for the challenge?21:13
Funky10Bthe unallocated ssd 120 that is21:13
Funky10Bhumm21:14
Funky10Blol i post that and see everyone log off .....funny21:14
YankDownUnderFunky10B, And I'm absolutely positively sure you've searched through the forums and wikis pertaining to this "setup", yersh, hmm?21:15
Funky10Byes21:15
Funky10Bin fact i did21:15
YankDownUnder...hence my statement, Funky10B my friend...yersh...complex this is, for the feint of heart this is not... :)21:16
Funky10Band i tried.......but see.....i have my raid and windows set up exaclty how i want minus the install of ubunta and am not skilled in this type of install..worried that i will mess up21:16
Funky10Bu21:16
Funky10Bjust would like someone to hold my hadn21:16
Funky10Bhand21:16
YankDownUnderFunky10B, Have you mucked about with a LiveUSB to see what the options are? Cuz in that instance, with the LiveUSB...you can "start" the installation without actually doing anything...know what I mean jellybean?21:17
Funky10Bnope21:17
ducasseFunky10B: actually, as long as you just install ubuntu on the ssd, install grub to the same ssd and set your bios to boot from it, there should be no special magic to this setup.21:19
YankDownUnderFunky10B, In booting a LiveUSB (of preferably an LTS release - like 16.04) - you can boot into the "live desktop" and suss out things - like fire up gparted and view the current disk "layout" - and even go so far as to START the installation and suss out what the "partitioning" is suggested to be...all without actually causing "damage" to the system - initiating a change that would fry your setup, hmm...21:19
Funky10Bi tried......to install...and got the usb bootable for ubuntu and then when it booted into usb i unconnected my m2 card to preevent any mistakes....so only the ssd 120g was hooked up...went through the set up...looked like  it was working....rebooted and  it wenty right to bios....there was no bootable drive.....so pluged back in my M2 card and went back into windows....looked at the 120g ssd and there is no bootable partion21:20
Funky10Bso lost21:20
Funky10Byank......can u walk me through this:?21:22
Funky10Binstall grub?>21:23
ducasseFunky10B: i assume you're using uefi boot? you either install grub to your current efi partition or create a new one on the ssd - the exact behavior depends on your firmware21:23
Funky10Byes21:23
Bashing-omFunky10B: Ro be clear - the 120G SSD is stand alone and raid is not a part of it ?21:24
Funky10Bstand alone21:24
Funky10Bi unhooked my raid drives and set the bios top ahci21:24
Funky10Bor achi whatever21:24
Funky10Bduh AHCI21:25
Funky10BSO I wiped the ssd to unallocated space......21:26
Funky10Band only have the ssd , then m2 card has windows on it.....and usb with ubuntu install on it21:26
Funky10Bi dont want to touch the m2 card.....i just want ubuntu installed on the ssd and be able to dual boot21:27
Funky10Bhelp?21:27
Funky10Bplease?21:28
JacksonvilleHey guys21:29
Funky10Bhello21:29
Funky10Bhey guys......i need some help. I have a system set up now with Windows 10 CE that is installed on a M2 ssd card.... then i have a raid10 with 10T and another ssd with 120g of unallocated space... i need help installing Ubuntu on the ssd and not touch my raid or main os......and be able to dual boot ...anyone up for the challenge?21:29
JacksonvilleI would like to save some pdf files to a USB drive. I am running Ubuntu from Virtual Box on a win 10 os. I am struggling figuring out how to mount the usb to I can save to it21:30
faugusztinFunky10B: what is Windows 10 CE21:30
Funky10Bwindows 10 creators edition21:30
Bashing-omFunky10B: I am not EFI qualified, but - in this instance, is raid data embedded onto this SSD causing a install issue ? - this should be straight forward !21:30
Funky10Bforget the raid......i unhooked my raid drives and will hook them back up after i get this installed21:31
Funky10Bright click on usb and hit mount21:31
Funky10Bwow......i was told someone surly would help me here.......sigh21:32
Bashing-omFunky10B: ' sudo wipefs /dev/sdX ' to make sure there is no raid meta data on the SSD ( windows quick start ! )21:33
erickhola21:33
erickdonde está la gente chongueraaaa21:33
Funky10Bthere was never a raid setup on the ssd21:33
Bashing-om!es | erick21:33
ubottuerick: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:33
Funky10Benglish21:34
AlkindiXEnglish pleaae 😂21:34
erickI21:34
erickNo problem21:34
erickhello people21:34
Funky10Bbashing-om no clue what you just said..can u please put that in english?>21:35
erickesquiusmi?21:35
erick:v21:35
Funky10Bsudo wipefs /dev/sdx?21:35
Funky10Bso........anyone? help?21:36
Bashing-omFunky10B: Backing up here . this SSD is a new install and Windows nor raid have ever touched it ?  If true then my above does not apply .21:36
Funky10Bor are we just gonna give me one line suggestions?21:36
Funky10Bok before i started this attempt21:37
faugusztinhttps://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/P10S-E-4L/ o_O wut21:37
AlkindiXsudo shred -v /dev/sdX is a better option21:37
Bashing-omFunky10B: There is a reason why a simple install failed . Now we need to find that reason . simple install .21:37
erickguats?21:38
Funky10Bi had just windows 10ce clean install..with a raid 0 and raid 10 set up with the OS on the m2 card and the raids set up on 4 wd 4t drives and the raid 0 was on 2 ssds.21:38
Funky10BBUT21:38
Funky10BI put in a new SSD that had never been in raid...and set the bios to ahci ( it was in raid) then booted from usb with ubunta and when in bios unhooked the m2 card.....so in the end...i only had the ssd unallocated space and usb that were attached to ssytem21:40
Funky10Bubuntu21:40
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Funky10Bagain.....i unhooked all the raid drives and turned off secure boot21:41
AlkindiXFunky10B: did you setup the raid in the windows or in Ubuntu?21:41
Funky10Bwindows......but i dont understand why we are still talking about the raid?> forget about it.....its not hooked up anymore.21:42
AlkindiXI faced this problem too21:42
AlkindiXBut in other way around21:42
Funky10Blets say i just want to install ubuntu on a ssd and i have a m2 card that is hosting the OS = windows....i dont want to touch the M2 card...just want to install ubuntu on the internal ssd and dual boot windows and ubuntu21:43
Funky10Banyone?21:44
AlkindiXI installed Windows with MBT partision. I tried to create a new partition for Ubuntu in Ubuntu installation media but fail to allocate disk space I read from Stack overflow that you have to part the disk from Windows21:44
akikAlkindiX: you can partition in linux for linux installation21:46
AlkindiXBecause Linux have problem parting in MBT21:46
YankDownUnderPartition the disk from Windows? Hmm...interesting...strange that...21:46
Funky10Bmbt?21:46
Funky10Bmbr?21:46
h22turboAlkindiX: burn Ubuntu to DVD, boot from the DVD (may have to change the boot order in your BIOS), Run Ubuntu Live from DVD, then use gparted21:46
mwilliams1220Hi, I am having trouble booting into any desktop, loading hangs at "Show Plymouth Boot Screen..."21:47
h22turboor it would work from booting it from USB thumb drive.... instead of burning to DVD21:47
Funky10B sigh21:47
AlkindiXakik: I know what you mean21:47
JacksonvilleFunky10B, "right click on USB and mount" ?   When I go to file manager the USB is not even there. Nothing to click21:47
h22turbojust use rufus for the bootable USB drive21:47
Funky10Bu cant21:47
Funky10Bits already installed21:48
Funky10Bthe os that is21:48
Funky10Bi used RUFAS to install the os onto the usb21:48
Funky10Bso the usb stick is bootable21:48
AlkindiXFunky10B: Trust the Ubuntu installation media and place the grub in master disk which is m221:48
Funky10Bwhat the heck is grub"?21:49
mwilliams1220Hi, I am having trouble booting into any desktop, loading hangs at "Show Plymouth Boot Screen..."21:49
ceivehi im new in the world ubuntu21:49
AlkindiXFunky10B: GRUB is the bootloader21:49
Funky10Bok so place what where?21:49
h22turbomwilliams1220: what graphics card or chipset does your pc have?21:49
ceivealguien habla español????21:50
mwilliams1220i AM NOT SURE21:50
Funky10Balkindix would u mind teamviewing in and help me wiht this?21:50
mwilliams1220sorry, I am not sure.21:50
AlkindiXFunky10B: place the root where you installed Windows21:50
Bashing-omAlkindiX: Careful here with advise . the M2 is raid . and the poster does not want to touch the raid array .21:50
Funky10Bsorry not sure what u mean21:50
Funky10BNO ITS NOT21:50
h22turbomwilliams1220: well, you kinda need to find out to troubleshoot the problem lol we cant help if you dont know21:50
Funky10Bforget the raid21:50
mwilliams1220I am not sure what chipset and graphics card I have21:50
kk4ewtmwilliams1220, lspci |pastebinit21:50
mwilliams1220Sorry, this is not my usual keyboard andit is making me nuts.21:50
Funky10Bthe M2 is not in as raid21:51
mwilliams1220I do not know how to pastebin21:51
AlkindiXBashing-om: Ahaaaaa21:51
kk4ewtmwilliams1220,  try that command21:51
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h22turbomwilliams1220: look for a model number or serial number on your computer (sometimes also in BIOS) then google that model/serial number to find out your hardware and chipset21:51
h22turbothen, we can help you21:52
Funky10Bso..... alkindix u up for challenge?21:52
AlkindiXFunky10B: nope21:52
Funky10Bsigh21:52
mwilliams1220i have to install pastebinit21:52
YankDownUnderGotta love Mondays...oh yeah...21:53
Funky10Banyone?21:53
Funky10Bits sunday dont remind me of monday yet21:53
mwilliams1220genius, doing that now21:53
AlkindiXmwilliams1220: Just reinstall Ubuntu21:54
Funky10Bhey guys......i need some help. I have a system set up now with Windows 10 CE that is installed on a M2 ssd card....  and another ssd with 120g of unallocated space... i need help installing ubuntu on the ssd 120g.....and be able to dual boot ...anyone up for the challenge?21:55
Funky10Bi tried and i getting the ssd as a nonbootable drive for some reason21:56
Funky10Bafter install21:56
mwilliams1220celeron j1800 2.41ghz, intel hd graphics21:56
AlkindiXFunky10B: Cab21:57
Funky10Bcab?21:57
mwilliams1220h22turbo-celeron j1800 2.41ghz, intel hd graphics21:57
AlkindiXFunky10B: Can y take pictures what is problem21:57
AlkindiXD21:58
Funky10Bpictures? humm of what? after install it just wont boot into ubuntu.....so i boot into windows and look at ssd and its not a bootable drive...so bios cant boot to it21:59
p4tHi guys. I asked something some ours ago. I've a problem with brightness on Lubuntu on my laptop. When i try to change the brightness the screen become black; the brightness changes (i can check on the second VGA screen) but i cannot restore the main screen so i must reboot. Is there someone who can tell me how to solve? Thanks22:01
Funky10Bok well....thanks for all the help.........sigh22:03
FatBoyXPCwhen installing ubuntu, and it asks if you'd like to encrypt the home directory, does it use ecryptfs?22:04
mwilliams1220Hi, I am having trouble booting into any desktop, loading hangs at "Show Plymouth Boot Screen..." celeron j1800 2.41ghz, intel hd graphics22:06
mwilliams1220Hi, I am using 17.04. I was checking out Gnome and when I logged out to log back into unity, loading hangs at "Show Plymouth Boot Screen..." celeron j1800 2.41ghz, intel hd graphics22:07
YankDownUndermwilliams1220, Can you hit the "escape" key and see what's on the screen?22:08
mwilliams1220when it is booting and I hit escape it goes to GRUB22:09
YankDownUndermwilliams1220, So it just sits at GRUB...no message, no...um...anything?22:10
mwilliams1220No, when booting, it goes to a warning screen Failed to connect to lvmetac.  Falling back to device scanning...22:11
YankDownUndermwilliams1220, Did you originally setup an LVM when you did the installation...?22:11
mwilliams1220The last line is Starting Show Plymouth Boot Screen. When I restart it and hit the escape key, if lucky, I catch the GRUB screen that looks like it normally would.22:11
mwilliams1220I tried doing some things from GRUB, changing quiet splash, something Ir ead in the forum.22:12
mwilliams1220I do not know what LVM is, so I probably chose not to do that when installing it.22:13
mwilliams1220I am making a live USB right now so maybe there is a utility on that i can use to help me. Otherwise, it looks like a fresh install is due.22:14
mwilliams1220Should i try to get to GRUB again?22:14
mwilliams1220I just got 2 new lines, No caching mode page found and assuming drive cache: write through22:16
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YankDownUndermwilliams1220, In trying to wrap my head around your issue - what was installed/changed/reconfigured in between the point where it all booted correctly and now...?22:20
XAlkindiXmwilliams1220: You are seriously in trouble with the issue22:20
mwilliams1220I had been running 17.04 for a few weeks, Unity desktop. I installed Gnome 3 and logged into it today to start tog et familiar with it. When i logged out to switch back to Unity, Iw as unable to get any desktop to load.22:21
mwilliams1220When restarting, loading hands at the Starting Show Plymought... I can get an terminal open and start X, but I do not know how to get back to Unity.22:23
XAlkindiXmwilliams1220: Did you tried to reinstall unity from command line ? Press ALT-CTRL-F122:24
YankDownUndermwilliams1220, For me, I have to stop at the 17.04 bit, bro...22:24
mwilliams1220what is the command to reinstyall unity?22:24
YankDownUnderUnity would not have been "uninstalled" - unless you specifically un-installed it...so it would be a matter of the "display manager" - the "login screen" - where you choose usernames and desktops...22:25
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: How are you getting the terminal active ? . maybe here one can reconfigure the desktop manager ?22:26
mwilliams1220alt-f122:27
mwilliams1220how do I get to the desktop manager from the CL or X-server? Those seem to be my only choices.22:28
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: :) ... Try at the F1 terminal ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' .22:28
mwilliams1220Something happened!22:29
mwilliams1220I think it is asking me which dm I want to make default.  GDM3 or lightdm22:30
mwilliams1220Bashing-om, what should I do?22:30
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: so choose which you want as the primary .22:31
mwilliams1220Does it matter which one? Without too many details, which one will get my desktop back fastest?22:31
mwilliams1220and how do I select? Highlight then hit enter or another key combo?22:33
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: neither will be the faster - if ya want unity as the default display then choose lightdm . else GDM, the choice is yours to make .22:33
mwilliams1220Sorry to be asking such basic questioins, but this is the first time I have had this problem. I chose lightdm and hit enter22:34
implitewhats the question?22:35
implite!lightdm22:35
mwilliams1220The prompt is onunder the package configuration window. Should I restart or is there another step?22:35
mwilliams1220implite I am having trouble getting back to Unity after looking at Gnome today.22:36
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: I honestly do not remember ; space-bar to select, tab to OK, enter to accept ??22:37
implitewhat happens when you logout and back in?22:37
implitewilliams22:37
mwilliams1220It has accepted the choice, CP is back.22:38
mwilliams1220Impilite-booting hangs at Show Start Plymouth Screen22:38
mwilliams1220Impilite-I had been running 17.04 for a few weeks, Unity desktop. I installed Gnome 3 and logged into it today to start tog et familiar with it. When i logged out to switch back to Unity, Iw as unable to get any desktop to load.22:39
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: Back at the terminal ? now what results if ya re-boot ?22:39
implitesudo /etc/init.d/gdm start22:39
mwilliams1220rebooting now22:39
mwilliams1220I am back to the Starting Show Plymouth Boot Screen.22:42
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: Sorry, I do not know enough about systemd to advise further .22:43
mwilliams1220Thanks22:43
mwilliams1220do you want to take control of my system via crossloop?22:44
implitewilliams what version of ubuntu are you trying to run?22:45
mwilliams122017.0422:45
implitekk also are you using nvidia?22:45
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: No, I do not access other's systems . A thought at the F1 console what results ' systemctl isolate graphical.target22:45
impliteis nvidia your gfx card for your system?22:46
impliteI think there is something missing with his drivers for gnome322:47
mwilliams1220my graphix card is invida22:47
mwilliams1220I am running the command you just gave me and it looks like my system is shutting down.22:48
mwilliams1220nvidia22:48
implitewell that should start your gnome if you where in cp or terminal22:49
implitenot shutdown22:49
mwilliams1220I do not know what it is doing. I get the ubuntu screen with the five dots.22:49
impliteshould be booting into your x1122:50
mwilliams1220okay. It is taking a long time >2 minutes22:51
NoCodeAm I putting an openSSH server on my remote laptop to send files from my desktop? Or should I put servers on both my desktop and laptop if exchanging files?22:51
impliteIt might not boot if you do not have the videocard drivers all installed now for your new x1122:52
mwilliams1220Oh, bujt It was working earlier for both Unity and Gnome. Is there a way to install the drivers? I think I saw a command earlier, but I cannot remember!22:53
impliteI read that someone has fixed this with sudo apt-get -f install22:54
mwilliams1220I ran that earier today.22:54
implitetry it again22:54
implitecant hurt anything22:55
mwilliams1220How do I get out of this screen? Push the restart button? I cannot get a terminal to open.22:55
impliteclt+alt+f122:55
mwilliams1220never mind, got it!22:55
implitegot what you terminal?22:56
impliteyour*22:56
Bashing-om NoCode openssh-server on the machine serving out the files . openssh-client on the machine getting the files .22:56
mwilliams1220I was wrong. The terminal window was nonresponseive and went back to the previous screen.22:57
mwilliams1220powered it off22:58
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: implite :: might see what happens attempting to boot recovery mode . that would point to graphics driver issues .22:58
mwilliams1220how do I boot into recovery mode?22:59
mwilliams1220Also, is it possible to uninstall Gnome?23:01
implitemwilliams do you have your ubuntu cd? You can test recovery mode with it23:01
implitein your grub menu you will see it23:02
mwilliams1220I have a usb.23:02
impliteok use this23:02
impliteit also has recovery mode23:02
mwilliams1220cool23:02
implitelets test this before we continue more23:03
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mwilliams1220I will try that next.23:04
mwilliams1220I am running autoremove right now. When it finishes I will try to boot into recovery mode with the USB.23:05
implite!recovery23:06
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode23:06
mwilliams1220I really appreciate all your help and suggestions tonight, implite and Bashing-om23:06
psychoticwarriorIs there a kali linux channel?23:06
implitepsychoticwarrior: #kalilinix is all i see with only 7 people in it so i dont know really23:08
psychoticwarriorok23:08
bazhang#kali-linux psychoticwarrior23:08
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: More than will ing to try and help. just reticent when I do not know what the outcome of any advise is .23:09
Bashing-ommwilliams1220: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode" // recovery mode is available in the installed system .23:10
impliteyes i saw that also and gave him that link as well23:10
impliteBashing23:11
mwilliams1220Bashing-om-reading that now, thank you.23:11
impliteok i guess he didnt see it when i posting it23:11
psychoticwarriortriple boot is the best23:12
Sonderbladei think there is something wrong with my gpu. any idea on how to go about diagnosing it?23:12
mwilliams1220implite-I must have missed it.23:12
impliteno worries! I hope we solve your issue. If we find a fix im going to add it to my research for X11 stuff23:13
Bashing-omSonderblade: driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?23:13
impliteso i cant get better at this issue with other people23:13
mwilliams1220I am getting off the channel, if this does not work, I will reinstall 17.04. I will let you know if anything solves the issue.23:15
zealsham_after running sudo -i and attaining sudo status, no command seem to work on the shell23:18
Ben64zealsham_: elaborate23:22
dave0x6dSo on my home Ubuntu server, IPv6 works great out of the box. No fiddling around with DHCP needed. But for some reason, IPv6 on AWS' stock Ubuntu image doesn't seem to get an IPv6 address automatically. What thing have they probably turned off?23:25
dave0x6doh, EC2 doesn't support SLAAC. =\23:26
donofrioJust wondering if anyone here has a though about how to get this working I did this on my 16.04 LOW install on win10 "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -y" I only get https://apaste.info/37JU  how do I fix this sources.list issues???23:28
dave0x6ddonofrio: apt-get update23:29
donofriodave0x6d, trying it again.....23:30
donofriodave0x6d, my system is https://apaste.info/WvlD fwiw23:33
dave0x6ddonofrio: did apt-get update give you an error? those packages are not current.23:35
Bashing-omdonofrio: " Network:   Card: Failed to Detect Network Card! " you are spinning your wheels 'til networking is restored .23:35
donofriodave0x6d, not yet, the apt-get update is worked so I'm rerunning the apt-get install23:36
donofriodave0x6d, and it's Unpacking bunches of packages now....we'll see if it chokes like the last time ;)23:37
dave0x6ddonofrio: you can't skip updating apt23:37
donofrioBashing-om, it's Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview Build 19199.rs_prerelease.170513-225223:38
dave0x6ddonofrio: doesn't matter.23:39
donofrioI'm trying to get xfce working from the cmd/bash envrionment23:39
SonderbladeBashing-om: yes stuff like that works. but x11 hard freezes occassionally which is not good23:39
donofriodave0x6d, good to hear ;)23:39
tonytmicrosoft surface 2 32gb tablets that come with windows rt installed, can linux be installed on them?23:39
perryfbecause I hit the limit for irc: https://gist.github.com/perryprog/e0eccc647a6c20bf969bc68e23e282eb23:40
Bashing-omSonderblade: Anything in the logs at the time of the freezes ?23:41
SonderbladeBashing-om: nope23:42
Bashing-omSonderblade: Nvidia ? I experienced same .. installing proprietary graphic's driver fixed .23:43
SonderbladeBashing-om: Radeon HD 420023:43
Bashing-omSonderblade: Not the same then . what release ? and that card only takes the radeon driver .23:44
Sonderbladeyes i have the radeon driver23:45
Bashing-omSonderblade: Do not know else I can say :(23:46
Sonderbladei think i would need some kind of stress test tool. like memtest86 but for gpus23:46
Sonderbladei have turned of the fans on the mb, so i have likely fried it but i want to know for sure23:47
Bashing-omSonderblade: Such tools are out there. But I have yet to have the need - so again can not advise from experience .23:48
Bashing-om!info bonnie++ | Sonderblade23:52
ubottuSonderblade: bonnie++ (source: bonnie++): Hard drive benchmark suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1.97.3 (zesty), package size 54 kB, installed size 169 kB23:52
SonderbladeBashing-om: thanks but it doesn't test gfx hw which is what i'm after23:53
perryfReposting this: "https://gist.github.com/perryprog/e0eccc647a6c20bf969bc68e23e282eb" on AskUbuntu23:53
perryfHere's the link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/917563/partition-ubuntu-installation23:57
Nocanybody know which icon in an icon theme is applied to the shutdown button on mate panel?23:57
perryfNoc: did you check .icons? source: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-change-the-shutdown-icon-on-the-menu-bar/1140323:58

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