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andyrockmorning05:42
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers!05:52
Trevinhohey, morning andyrock and oSoMoN06:59
Laneymoin08:03
seb128hey Laney willcooke08:03
seb128good morning desktopers08:03
seb128how was your w.e? and how is that new week looking?08:04
didrockshey Laney, willcooke08:04
Laneyhey seb128 hey didrocks08:06
Laneygood!08:06
Laneywell on Saturday it rained all day more or less so we went to the library then the coffee shop08:07
Laneybut yesterday was nice, allotment then pub with friends and board games08:07
didrockswhich board games in particular?08:09
willcookemorning all08:10
Laneydidrocks: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/127024/room-25 then https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/73761/k208:12
Laneysorry, terminal froze up weirdly08:12
Laneydidrocks: seb128: willcooke: how are you!08:13
Laneysupposed to get to 21° today08:13
willcookeI've just run out of disk space.  Suspect my Monday morning backup script has gone wonky08:13
Laneyon the target?08:13
didrocksah, room 25 :)08:13
didrockswere you on of the traitors? :p08:14
willcookelocal hdd -> big F. off tar -> scp to local server -> rsync to AWS08:14
didrocks(don't know K2)08:14
didrocksLaney: doing well, thanks! supposed to get to 27° today :p better to run early…08:14
Laneysomeone else was the traitor08:14
Laneybut at the start one of the contestents claimed falsely that he was08:15
didrocksahah08:15
Laneyso we all suspected the wrong person08:15
Laneyfunny08:15
* didrocks has horrible stories of people being killed at the second round while not being the traitor :p08:15
didrocks(it was Rick's son being the traitor, and no-one suspected him at that time)08:15
didrocksI fooled all of us08:16
didrockshe*08:16
Laney:D08:16
didrocksfound the exit08:16
didrocksmarked it as dangerous08:16
didrocksand we lost :p08:16
Laneyclever08:16
LaneyI wanted to push someone into the fire room08:16
Laneybut didn't get the chance08:16
* Laney relocates to town08:37
* duflu wonders if there is ASCII art for teleportation08:40
Trevinhoofficially welcome duflu! :)09:13
dufluTrevinho, umm, thanks09:13
seb128evening Trevinho duflu09:17
dufluHey seb12809:17
TrevinhoI still call this afternoon...09:17
Trevinho:-D09:17
* Trevinho just got lunch... 09:17
seb128if you wish :-)09:17
Trevinhobut... hey seb128 :-D09:18
seb128what time is it for you?09:18
Trevinhoseb128: how is the new life going?09:18
seb1286pm?09:18
Trevinhoseb128: 17...09:18
seb128oh ok, yeah, that's afternoon09:18
seb128life is good09:18
seb128had a nice relaxing w.e09:18
seb128and not so much sleep this night to balance it :p09:19
Trevinhoeheh... Well, it has to be :-D09:21
willcookehey jamesh :)09:35
jameshhi willcooke09:35
dufluwillcooke, sounds like I should email you status on Tuesdays and not Fridays (?)09:36
willcookeduflu, yes please.  Don't worry about being verbose, we can cover that in 1:1s, so something suitable for copy&paste to the wider team will be really helpful09:37
* duflu fades into the night10:02
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seb128it looks like we are getting quite some reports about zesty gconf upgrade issue, postinst hitting an error11:40
jibelseb128, do you have a bug #?11:45
seb128jibel, bug #168872111:46
ubot5bug 1688721 in gconf (Ubuntu) "package gconf2-common 3.2.6-3ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168872111:46
jibelthanks11:46
seb128yw11:46
seb128I wonder if that's the same as https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=76043911:46
ubot5Debian bug 760439 in gconf2-common "gconf2-common: error processing" [Important,Open]11:46
seb128and having to do with the perl binding missing (which was pointed as an issue before release on devel iirc) and debconf?11:47
seb128(random guess statement from the warnings in the dpkg log)11:47
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jibelseb128, lot of reports mention chrome, maybe it's related11:53
seb128jibel, I would guess that chrome pulls in gconf which we don't install by default anymore otherwise11:56
oSoMoNseb128, jibel: FYI starting with version 59 (to be released beginning of June) we will stop building chromium-browser with gconf (of course that doesn't affect upstream chrome packages)12:51
jibeloSoMoN, in this case it's chrome12:58
kenvandinehello desktoppers13:50
oSoMoNhey kenvandine!13:50
kenvandinei'm building a xenial backport of gnome 3.24 in a ppa for the platform snap13:50
kenvandinebut running into a gtk test failure only on xenial13:50
kenvandineERROR:/build/gtk+3.0-dBZtvN/gtk+3.0-3.22.15/./testsuite/css/style/test-css-style.c:115:load_ui_file: assertion failed (error == NULL): colornames.css:120:42'rebeccapurple' is not a valid color name (gtk-css-provider-error-quark, 1)13:51
kenvandinewhich i think is related to this13:51
kenvandineFailed to open file “./test-css-style.gresource.xml”: No such file or directory13:51
kenvandineanyone familiar with those gresource files that can confirm that might be the cause?13:51
kenvandinefull build log at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/320395481/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.gtk+3.0_3.22.15-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz13:52
seb128kenvandine, the zesty build has the same no such file so it's not likely the issue14:00
kenvandineseb128, ah... ok14:01
* kenvandine should have thought to check for the warning :)14:01
seb128I wonder if it uses external files as a reference14:01
kenvandineoh...14:01
seb128kenvandine, try maybe reverting https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/testsuite/css/style/colornames.ui?id=c27b8b48 ?14:02
kenvandinerebeccapurple is defined in the test14:02
seb128just to see14:02
LaneyI think those come from pango14:02
Laneytry building that first14:02
seb128https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=c27b8b4814:02
seb128in fact14:02
seb128k, Laney got there first :p14:02
seb128I was looking at what provides the reference14:02
kenvandineoh...14:02
Laneysry :-)14:02
kenvandinedamn ordering issue :)14:02
kenvandineok, thanks!14:02
seb128I told you that deps might be needed14:03
seb128:p14:03
kenvandineseb128, indeed...14:03
Laneyif that's true, please commit a BD version bump14:03
kenvandinesure14:03
kenvandinei'll push that to the ~ubuntu-desktop branch as well so it makes it in the next uplaod14:03
kenvandineupload14:03
Laneyya14:03
seb128but yeah14:03
seb128https://git.gnome.org/browse/pango/commit/?id=5aa230b1421b1a7dff8525125a5a22de48c5b6e914:03
kenvandinethanks guys14:03
seb128confirmed in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77065314:04
ubot5Gnome bug 770653 in .General "test-suite failure: testsuite/css/style/test-css-style.c: FAIL" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix]14:04
seb128"don't see a strong reason to bump the pango dependency, just to make a test pass."14:04
Laneysuch reference14:04
kenvandinenot worth an upload for it14:04
kenvandinebut no reason not to :)14:05
Laneynah14:05
Laneybut we'll get it next time14:05
seb128mbiel reported it, he could have bumped the build-depends in Debian...14:05
seb128oh well14:05
seb128good work figuring it out team :-)14:05
jibelseb128, about the gconf2 bug you mentioned earlier, it's reproducible by installing chrome with ubuntu-software. It hangs on ucf (in gconf2-common postinst)14:09
jibeli'll update the report14:09
Laneyzesty?14:10
jibelyes zesty14:10
jibelI didn't try on artful14:10
Laneynod14:12
Laneycan you check/say if libgtk2-perl is installed?14:13
LaneyI think that was the package they were doing stuff with just before release that seb128 referred to14:13
jibelLaney, it is installed14:16
Laneyk14:17
Laneyit's one for robert_ancell to look at most likely anyway ;-)14:17
Laneyximion: hey, got 2s to talk appstream for gstreamer elements?14:20
Laneydo you think it makes sense for asgen to generate this?14:20
Laneytry apt show gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad - I think everything we'd need is there14:20
Laneythat'd be type=codec components14:21
xnoxseb128, http://bugs.debian.org/86313414:25
ubot5Debian bug 863134 in wnpp "ITP: libayatana-indicator -- Ayatana Indicators panel applets shared library" [Wishlist,Open]14:25
seb128xnox, nice, see there are community people interested in some bits :-)14:30
seb128jibel, can you get a bt of the hang? does it do it only if installed from ubuntu-software? or is apt having the same issue?14:31
ximionLaney: jup14:34
Laneyximion: k, nice14:34
ximionLaney: would you want asgen to auto-generate this, or should we rather put a metainfo snippet in the gstreamer plugin package?14:35
* ximion votes for the latter, we should even upstream that14:35
LaneyI think asgen should make it14:35
Laneybecause...14:35
ximion(if it isn't already)14:35
Laneyotherwise they have to have individual metainfo files14:35
Laneyto deal with package splits and stuff14:35
ximionlike what?14:36
Laneyputting some .so files in one packages and some in another14:36
ximionah, you man the individual plugins... yes, that would be necessary14:36
Laneydh_gst* deal with this for you already14:36
ximionbut I think upstream should have that as metainfo files, to be distro-agnostic14:36
LaneyI guess they could generate them14:37
Laneyalso...14:37
Laneythe <codec> tag isn't really specified14:37
ximionLaney: yes, I noticed :D - I wanted to object to AppStream initially because I thought codes were only defined via their mimetypes, then I realized that at least in the example <code> has a meaning14:39
LaneyAFAICS it's not actually parsed currently14:40
ximionbut it's not actually specified anywhere what that is14:40
Laneyso it doesn't matter that much14:40
Laneybut if we do something with PackageKit in the end then you probably want to be specified14:41
ximionI would still like to fix that in the spec somehow... But I am no expert on codecs14:41
LaneyI think some of the examples in there are kind of wrong actually14:41
Laney<encoder>audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4, stream-format=(string){ adts, raw }, base-profile=(string)lc</encoder> would be a thing that gstreamer can do something with14:42
ximionbefore I release AppStream 1.0 I need to read the whole thing from start to finish - the spec has changed a lot over time, and there are a few historical accidents in there14:42
ximionI guess hughsie and I thought "we of course want a codec component!" but didn't actually clearly specify it (as long as GStreamer is happy)14:43
Laneythey just use it to match the package name atm14:43
LaneyAFAICS14:43
Laneywhich is actually what I want it for too14:43
Laneysince you get given the list of packages for a particular list of codec requests from PK anyway14:43
jbichaximion: have you thought about asgen for fonts?14:52
ximionjbicha: jup, it works14:55
ximionnot only thought about it, but also worked with this madness for a while ^^14:56
ximionthe fonts have to ship a metainfo file though, results without it using heuristics were abysmal (hughsie came to the same conclusion at Fedora)14:56
ximionjbicha: search for Oxygen or Lato in GNOME Software ;-)14:56
jbichaoh ok14:58
jbichaoxygen is the only font where that's been upstreamed so far :(14:59
ximionjbicha: I have a pending blogpost about this to motivate people to write more metadata (it's really easy!)14:59
jbichathat might be like saying "writing documentation is easy" :)15:00
jbichathe tough part for me is "how do you describe a font?", especially if you want the description to be CC015:01
TrevinhoLaney: you know what could have triggered https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782942 ?17:53
ubot5Gnome bug 782942 in general "Linking in Ubuntu/Debian errors with undefined reference to 'sincosf'" [Normal,Assigned]17:53
Trevinholast libtool is different from previous by https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24625273/ as you can see in the new one link_all_deplibs is set to no, but also in the previous version it would have been ignored if no...17:56
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robert_ancellwillcooke, hi19:50
willcookehi robert_ancell - brwy19:52
LaneyTrevinho: how do I make that happen?20:24
willcookenight all o/20:28
LaneyTrevinho: I tried building the distro package in an sbuild schroot, and I also tried building clutter-gtk in jhbuild with updated glib and g-i20:29
Laneyall worked20:29
jbicharobert_ancell: good morning, I thought you might be interested by Mike Gabriel's new uploads yesterday and today, particularly his Remote Login ones23:25
jbichahttps://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html23:25
robert_ancelljbicha, what's that?23:27
jbichayeah, I figured he forked before talking to y'all23:27
robert_ancelloh, is this the old remote login stuff from Ubuntu?23:27
jbichayes, but renamed23:27
jbichasome of this stuff is old, like his libappindicator fork has his commits from 201523:30

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