[21:38] <Broly> hello i would like to report my problems with another user you've given a cloak to. i understand ignore works wonders, but in this case the user clearly claimed he would "stop" talking to me after the first encounter
[21:38] <Broly> and yet he proceeded to try again, likely stemming from his inferiority complex when comparing his latino heritage to my indo-greek heritage
[21:38] <Broly> a form of "assertion" if you will
[21:38] <ikonia> what's up
[21:39] <Broly> https://pastebin.com/J4K3cmCS
[21:39] <Broly> one sec i will get the second log which is fresh
[21:40] <Broly> https://pastebin.com/g6a702vX
[21:40] <Broly> all i ask is that you guys deal with this issue
[21:40] <ikonia> I don't see you involved in that conversation ?
[21:40] <Broly> i'm usually not a tattle tale
[21:40] <Broly> i'm countrumford
[21:40] <Broly> but in this case i cannot handle the number of lies by this individual in hopes of "winning" an argument
[21:40] <Broly> i really don't care about him and i put him on ignore, but i had higher expectations of people with the ubuntu cloak
[21:41] <ikonia> what channel is this in ?
[21:41] <Broly> dd-wrt
[21:41] <Broly> he should have put me on ignore after the first encounter but he just didn't want to
[21:41] <ikonia> so it's not really anythig to do with this team - the guy isn't being racist or anything like that to warrent removal of the cloak that I can see in my skim reading
[21:41] <elky> ok, so save me from reading all that, are you asking us to scold someone for lying in a channel we have no control over?
[21:41] <Broly> what about poor representation?
[21:41] <Broly> no
[21:42] <Broly> i'm asking what the requirements are to have the claok. is there not some expectation of ambassadorship?
[21:42] <Broly> are you saying that you allow others who get this cloak to behave however they so choose?
[21:42] <ikonia> I'm not actually sure what he's doing wrong from skim reading
[21:42] <ikonia> and I see you goading him
[21:42] <leftyfb> he has it in my head that I'm a "beaner" (his words, not mine). Not sure why. And when I tell him I'm not, he gets more racist and angry. The guy is clearly a troll and/or has some deeper issues
[21:42] <Broly> do you not have expectations of your users to use the 'ignore' feature?
[21:42] <ikonia> [3:09:51 PM] <Broly> who are you, what do you do? aside from thinking you're cool with your little ubuntu cloak
[21:42] <ikonia> [3:10:03 PM] <Broly> must i post the chat where your stupid ass tried to redefine "chat" as forum, because obviously english isn't your first language?
[21:43] <ikonia> no-one mentioned ubuntu cloaks, but you seemed to have made an issue out of it and used it as a wepon against him
[21:43] <Broly> i didn't say i wasn't being rude, did i?
[21:43] <ikonia> no, but I'm just clarifying
[21:43] <Broly> he is using it as a weapon against others in a dd-wrt channel
[21:43] <Broly> it is clearly being used to project aptitude
[21:43] <ikonia> I don't see him referencing his ubuntu cloak
[21:43] <Broly> he doesn't have to
[21:43] <Broly> that's the whole point of it
[21:43] <Broly> and you know it
[21:43] <Broly> don't play that game
[21:43] <leftyfb> lol
[21:43] <ikonia> no it's not
[21:43] <Broly> if it didn't matter he'd be on an unaffiliated cloak
[21:43] <Broly> but it clearly mattesr. when i asked him what he contributed he gave no answer
[21:44] <elky> this is a waste of our time.
[21:44] <ikonia> agreed
[21:44] <Broly> so there are no expectations of those with the ubuntu cloak?
[21:44] <Broly> they are free to behave as they would if they had an unaffiliated cloak?
[21:44] <Broly> just want to be clear here
[21:44] <elky> yes.
[21:44] <leftyfb> just for the record, I am proud of and do enjoy the representation of Ubuntu. But I also do not understand why this guy is so hateful to me and others and has latched onto the fact that I have a cloak
[21:44] <Broly> is it easy to get an (i like 'a' here, phonetic 'y' and all) ubuntu cloak?
[21:45] <ikonia> Broly: you have to contribute to the project
[21:45] <ikonia> it's documented on the wiki
[21:45] <Broly> then why didn't he answer me when i asked what he contributed. he kept deflecting
[21:45] <ikonia> ask him
[21:45] <Broly> he wanted to assert himself so he should have presented what he felt gave him the basis to act the way he did
[21:45] <ikonia> he's  under no obligation
[21:45] <Broly> I DID
[21:46] <ikonia> he's not referenced his cloak
[21:46] <ikonia> he doesn't have to provide details to you
[21:46] <elky> Broly: he's under no obligation to do anything for you
[21:46] <ikonia> only you seem to be making an issue of it
[21:46] <leftyfb> I told him, because I didn't think it was relevant to me mentioning him constantly posting garbage to an open source chat. Not sure what my credentials have anything to do with it
[21:46] <Broly> not really an issue, it's more about the use of the cloak as a fictitious badge
[21:47] <ikonia> it's not fictiious
[21:47] <elky> Broly: please leave.
[21:47] <ikonia> and no-one is referencing the cloak other than you, so there isn't really anything to discuss
[21:47] <Broly> it is a fictitious badge given what you've stated.
[21:47] <ikonia> ok, I think we're done
[21:47] <Broly> you guys are just like him, lol. so pretentious
[21:47] <elky> it's certainly not one we're going to pull from him just because he annoyed a random person
[21:47] <ikonia> ok
[21:47] <ikonia> thanks, bye
[21:47] <Broly> linaro and arm nosediving and this is how you behave
[21:47] <elky> please go
[21:48] <Broly> elky may i ask where you get off talking like that?
[21:48] <elky> that's where
[21:48] <Broly> okay?
[21:48] <Broly> you think you're smarter than me?
[21:48] <elky> i asked you several times to go
[21:48] <Broly> just wondering
[21:48] <ikonia> leftyfb: I wouldn't give this a second thought
[21:49] <leftyfb> ok, good. It wasn't just me. He's like that to anyone he doesn't immediately like.
[21:49] <ikonia> carry on with your day and try not to give this a thought
[21:49] <ikonia> it just seems like a pointless attempt at noise
[21:50] <leftyfb> he was booted him #raspberrypi a while back for spewing hateful and offensive garbage as well. He just seems to have targeted me recently
[21:50] <elky> he's now harassing in my pm so it's a network harassment issue
[21:50] <ikonia> leftyfb: forget it and enjoy whatever you where doing
[21:50] <leftyfb> I'll admit, I was feeding the troll a bit. It seems he just keeps getting angrier at himself. A bit amusing to watch really.
[21:50] <ikonia> leftyfb: you didn't break the channels rules, it's not a problem
[21:51] <leftyfb> thank you
[21:51] <leftyfb> sorry to have brought this on you guys
[21:51] <elky> if he continues to harass you in ubuntu land because of whatever happened elsewhere, let us know. if he continues to follow you around namespaces, let staff know
[21:51] <ikonia> leftyfb: 90 seconds out of our day, not a problem at all
[21:51] <elky> and probably set ignore first
[21:52] <leftyfb> nah, I think I'll just let his fire burn itself out at this point. Otherwise I fear him doing a simple google search and getting personal. Something I don't have the time for these days.
[21:52] <leftyfb> and look at that, that's exactly what he did
[21:56] <elky> anything else we can help you with?
[21:57] <leftyfb> no, thank you. I was just wondering if he would come in here lying about anything. But he just dug his own grave.
[21:57] <leftyfb> oh right, topic. Sorry. Cyas
[23:31] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, ldunn said: ubottu's stance on the matter is relatively unimportant