[01:47] <froggle> Anyone have a moment to help me with a permissions issue? I'm trying to copy a file from my Kubuntu desktop to a mounted Synology NAS shared drive. The error I get is: Access denied. Could not write to /mnt/froggle/test/image.jpg
[01:48] <froggle> The shared drive is read/write accessible.
[01:53] <froggle> i think it's a problem with the way im  mounting via cifs...looking...
[02:05] <Roey> how many tickles does it take to make an octopus laugh?
[02:06] <froggle> 8?
[02:09] <froggle> 10
[02:49] <froggle> well anyway, i figured it out. when mounting, i needed to change to uid=1000
[02:49] <froggle> sweet
[03:28] <diegs_> hi! is there a way to change the 'breeze' cursor theme to an intermediate size? Right now my aptions are 24 (too small), 48 (too big), and 'resolution dependent' (same size as 48)
[05:33] <lordievader[m]> Good morning
[08:18] <Vorap> Heyo! :) Quick question, when I try to log in to my box, running kubuntu 17.04, it freezes right when I enter my password, and it doesn't actually log me in, anyone have any ideas?
[08:18] <suici> Vorap , are you using Wayland or X11 ?
[08:21] <Vorap> I am running X11
[08:41] <hateball> Vorap: have you been naughty and run gui apps with sudo?
[08:41] <hateball> Vorap: log in to a tty and check that you are the owner of ~/.Xauthority
[08:49] <lordievader[m]> Also check if the disk (home partition) is full.
[08:55] <Vorap> hateballm hahaha, I
[08:55] <Vorap> 'll check
[08:55] <Vorap> lordievader[m] I'll check that too
[08:56] <Vorap> hateball, I must have :$ root owns it :Å
[08:56] <Vorap> :P*
[09:02] <Vorap> hateball, I chgrped and chowned it, now it's working again, thanks man :D
[09:06] <hateball> Vorap: :)
[10:12] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:34] <silver_hook> Hullo. I’m having trouble with VPN (vnpc) on 17.04. It *seems* this is a regression bug in NetworkManager, so downgrading that package to 1.2.2 (or prior) might be a workaround for it.
[10:35] <silver_hook> Is there a (sane) way how I can do that on 17.04? It seems at least in 16.04 that package version was available, but in 17.04 it is not anymore, even if I were to force it.
[11:25] <dimitris_79> check
[12:59] <silver_hook> I take it silence means there is no sane way to downgrade NetworkManager on 17.04.
[12:59] <lordievader[m]> Why do you want to downgrade it?
[12:59] <silver_hook> So my best option would be what? To download the last known working SRPM (from e.g. 16.04) and build it?
[13:00] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: regression bug after 1.2.2, that causes DNS to be ignored when using VPN.
[13:00] <lordievader[m]> Ah, useful. Is there no older package available? See apt-cache policy ;)
[13:02] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: Not in 17.04. At least for NetworkManager the “force version” option is not available in Synaptic and `aptitude show network-manager` also shows just one version :/
[13:03] <lordievader[m]> Hmm, you might be able to install the package from 16.10, but it might very well complain about that.
[13:03] <silver_hook> The issue is in this bug (and those linked in it): https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager-applet/+bug/1633874
[13:03] <lordievader[m]> Not really an ideal situation.
[13:03] <lordievader[m]> 17.10 does not have a fixed version?
[13:03] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: I know :/
[13:04] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: I think 17.10 uses the same NetworkManager version.
[13:04] <silver_hook> So 16.10 SRPM and build the .deb locally?
[13:04] <lordievader[m]> No, download the deb from launchpad.
[13:04] <lordievader[m]> Skip the building part ;)
[13:07] <silver_hook> Will try, thanks :)
[13:07] <silver_hook> But first I’ve got a call so I’ll report back in an hour or so.
[13:11] <lordievader[m]> silver_hook: Good luck
[13:18] <chcknrub> hi
[13:19] <lordievader[m]> o/
[13:19] <chcknrub> i have switched to kde neon from kubuntu 16.04 LTS, kde neon is much much much better!!!!! kubuntu 16.04 has many bugs and no updates
[13:20] <chcknrub> who uses kubuntu 16.04???
[13:20] <chcknrub> i'll recommend the switch to kde neon
[13:20] <chcknrub> ^_^
[13:22] <chcknrub> wasted for 3-6 months waiting for kde updates in kubuntu 16.04, after switching to kde neon, it has latest kde and still based on ubuntu distro... i never look back
[13:42] <lordievader[m]> !info plasma-desktop
[13:43] <lordievader[m]> chcknrub: 5.9.4 is in the latest kubuntu...
[16:39] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: You were right, it complains quite viciously regarding nplan being there and libreadline6 not being there :p
[16:42] <lordievader[m]> silver_hook: Yeah, I'm afraid you are going to have to wait for a bugfix to be packaged. Or see if the fix is upstream and compile your own NM.
[16:45] <silver_hook> Bugger.
[16:45] <silver_hook> Thanks anyway :)
[16:47] <silver_hook> lordievader[m]: I guess SRPM wouldn’t help me here either
[16:47] <lordievader[m]> What is SRPM anyways?
[16:48] <lordievader[m]> Redhat packages?
[16:48] <silver_hook> Source RPM
[16:48] <silver_hook> Ah, right, sorry, wrong distro.
[16:48] <silver_hook> Em .sources.deb.
[16:49] <silver_hook> deb-src
[16:49] <lordievader[m]> The sources debs specify which packages they need, so I don't think it is going to help you much.
[16:49] <lordievader[m]> I think it is easier to compile from upstream source.
[16:52] <silver_hook> Hmm, I though they included some scripts already. I guess I confused it with something else then.
[16:53] <lordievader[m]> Oh the build process from a source package is easier, but I don't think it will solve the original problem.
[16:54] <silver_hook> Probably not, no.
[16:54] <silver_hook> Oh well, thanks anyway, I’ll just hope the bug gets fixed then :)
[16:54] <silver_hook> That or distro hop again XD
[17:11] <Crell> Hi folks. I'm on Kubuntu 16.10.  Periodically the Alt-F2 dialog (formerly "kicker"?) simply doesn't start, or connect, or something.  I have not figured out a pattern to it.  Is there a way to force it to start?
[17:19] <hateball> Crell: run "krunner" from a terminal
[17:20] <hateball> Crell: also you should see about upgrading to 17.04, 16.10 goes EOL soon
[17:20] <Crell> That's on my todo list for this weekend. :-)
[17:20] <Crell> That did it, thanks.
[18:18] <apb1963> kubuntu 16.04; I'm searching for a mamaboard, and according to what I've read over the last week, AMD seems to be focused on Radeon (so NVIDEA doesn't seem to be an option with AMD), they don't typically support their drivers for more than a short time, Canonical won't be supporting it either.  Further, linux developers have issues with Radeon policies.  Recommendations for graphics issues have been mostly to not run ubuntu 16.04 or oibaf's
[18:18] <apb1963> drivers which one is supposed to "risk" using as there is no "official" support.  So... bottom line, I don't know if I should be buying an AMD CPU at this time.
[18:30] <BluesKaj> cpu and gpu are different processors...gpu are graphics
[18:31] <BluesKaj> I have amd cpu but nvidia gpu/graphics
[18:43] <apb1963> BluesKaj: yes
[18:44] <apb1963> But as I said....  AMD is focused on Radeon... not Nvidia.  While there may be some motherboards with Nvidia chips, there is no easy way to find them that I'm aware of.
[18:45] <apb1963> so far, all AMD based boards are coming up Radon
[18:53] <apb1963> This gets to the heart of the matter.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/815591/ubuntu-14-04-5-16-04-16-10-and-amd-graphics
[19:29] <dahlia> where do I find the UI to enable desktop sharing? I'm using 16.04, I dont see it in system settings, and typing "desktop sharing" in the main menu yields nothing
[19:30] <dahlia> do I need to install something?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> dahlia,  install krfb desktop sharing utility, it's in the repos
[19:38] <dahlia> BluesKaj: ty
[19:55] <corppneq> hello
[19:56] <corppneq> I have a problem with Kubuntu 17.04. I only get a black screen after login (I just did an update and added some miniprogramms to the panel). No panels are visible. How do I fix this?
[20:04] <memphisto> alt+f2 is working?
[20:04] <memphisto> corppneq , is alt+f2 working?
[20:17] <kubunted> why is it freezing all the time? first thought just the desktop but then on virtual console too. Is tghis on purpose to make linux worse and worse instead of improving?
[20:24] <chcknrub> yup, look at windows 10....
[20:24] <kubunted> weird...what we in the 1990s hoped to become a great os has been turning weirder and werder
[20:25] <kubunted> other that slower at boot and shutdown win10 is in manty way superior to once promising linux
[20:26] <chcknrub> windows 10 is worst.. i can't disable av scanning
[20:26] <chcknrub> downloading updates won't start unless you leave your computer
[20:27] <kubunted> it's a mess...no out of the box working os...except may be apple...haven't used that in while
[21:03] <wxl> hey folks i just killed plasma-desktop (yes, kde4) and when i restart it fails. there's an error about an unversioned plugin of libplasma but there's also a dbus error, so i'm thinking resolving the latter might solve the former? isn't there like a dbus-launch command that can sort of resolve the dbus session pointer to the correct location?
[21:04] <kubunted> Why is kubuntu installed filemanager moving files to Trash instead of deleting? How to delete? What happened .?.. why does it no more deletes?????
[21:09] <edarfoc> empty trash
[21:14] <Dragnslcr> kubunted- if you mean when you press the Delete key, you can change the shortcut in Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[21:21] <acheronuk> they have gone, but FWIW, the right click 'delete' option is now a service menu option to enable in dolphin preferences
[21:21] <acheronuk> plus Shift + delete key still works to bypass trash I think
[21:34] <Dragnslcr> acheronuk- yeah, I think the default is the shortcut for "Trash" is Del and the shortcut for "Delete" is Shift+Del
[21:34] <vo1pbx> new and improved
[21:34] <vo1pbx> lol
[21:35] <silver_hook> Yay! Managed to fix my VPN issue :D
[21:36] <silver_hook> …in the end I simply installed NetworkManager 1.8.0 from Debian Sid’s packages.
[22:28] <chcknrub> if i delete the Trash can, where will it go?
[22:28] <chcknrub> how to restore it?, i can't find the trash can in my kubuntu
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