[02:12] Laney: mh, I got it in artful jhbuild. It doesn't happen with the distro package, but it does with the git version [02:39] Laney: it might also be because of the g-ir from jhbuild... mhmh [06:38] morning [06:46] hai visto su hr? [06:47] seb è segnato come nostro manager [06:48] eh come si fa a chiederti di fare la 360? [06:51] andyrock, morning. In hr.canonical.com you "create" a new 360 review. "New" button I think [06:52] And afternoon Trevinho [06:53] duflu: hey [06:53] ah wrong chanell [06:54] *channel [06:54] :D [06:54] andyrock, yes but there is no language in which that UI makes sense [06:54] I assume [06:55] duflu: also nice to see that you understand italian :D [06:55] Ha, no [06:58] ... which ironically is the same spelling for either English or Italian [07:03] * Trevinho goes ordering food :| [07:07] good morning [07:07] morning [07:10] Morning didrocks, jibel [07:11] hi jibel and didrocks [07:11] hey jibel, duflu, Trevinho! [07:14] hello didrocks Trevinho duflu [07:33] morning seb128 [07:40] good morning desktopers, hey Trevinho, how is it going? [07:40] Morning seb128, good considering summer just ended :) [07:42] hey duflu :-) [07:42] Oh, you weren't asking generally. Oh well [07:42] that might be a nice thing if you are looking forward cooler days :-) [07:43] seb128, yeah this climate change stuff might bring us more rain [07:43] it seems [07:43] weirdly [07:51] good morning all! afternoon duflu [07:51] Good umm Tuesday, oSoMoN [07:51] salut oSoMoN [07:52] it hasn't been raining all day, so it's not too bad. [07:58] morning [07:58] Trevinho: I have the gi from there too [07:59] Laney: morning... [07:59] how's it going? [07:59] Laney: mh, not sure then... [07:59] well it's on a zesty base system [07:59] Laney: can you pass me your libtool file , to see the diff? [07:59] I'll try upgrading that in a minute [07:59] Laney: ah, this is A... [07:59] Laney: going well, btw... yourself? [07:59] hey oSoMoN Laney jamesh [07:59] hey seb128 [08:00] Laney joining before the bbc tick now?! [08:00] Trevinho: yeah ok, not been hearing anything else this morning apart from news in manchester though [08:00] seb128: had my laptop downstairs [08:00] ah [08:00] how are you? [08:00] yeah... I read this early morning.. :-/ [08:00] I'm good [08:00] got some sleep this night :-) [08:00] nice [08:01] good morning Laney, hope that everything is going well for everyone you know (same for willcooke) [08:01] Laney: also... any reason why the popover aren't dark in Ambiance (see https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mo5Z4ERp/ they look nice, while I've to fix the case of a view in it, which would be white...)? [08:01] not that is so bad eh... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nVUD8JJ5/ [08:01] http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/libtool [08:02] "not that is so bad" EPARSE [08:02] it's easier to have them have a normal background colour because they can contain any widget [08:02] morning all [08:03] otherwise you have to style them all for the dark case [08:03] I think that was one reason anyway [08:03] hi willcooke [08:03] alright? [08:03] good morning willcooke [08:03] Trevinho, the darker one looks 100% disabled (like a bug that people will report :P) [08:05] duflu: right one is backdrop, that's why [08:05] Laney: yeah, I thought about that... i wanted to see if i can find some generic rule [08:05] hi willcooke [08:05] Laney: btw our libtool's match... mhmh [08:05] On a slightly different topic, I've been wondering today if the Gnome menu being Ambiance grey would be good to give Ubuntu a distinct look... or make it worse [08:06] hey willcooke [08:06] (it's black right now) [08:06] Although that would look weird against a maximized titlebar [08:08] Trevinho, oh yes. I would have though it was a bug that you can have two different apps menus open though [08:09] GTK should be closing any app's menus when the app loses focus... traditionally anyway [08:09] duflu: yeah, the shell needs some theme love, but... [08:10] Firefox and Chrome for example will auto-close their burger menus on focus loss [08:58] just found an /etc/hosts with s-jenkins in it [08:58] ♥ [08:58] would that be from before they had DNS set up for it through the VPN? [08:59] mh, I think I still have it :o [08:59] yeah [08:59] I guess so [08:59] I think I had to get access to it for some nexus 7 thing [08:59] duflu: well... it should, but it doesn't as per design decision :-) [08:59] being part of the window, it's how they want it [09:00] Trevinho, yeah not important so long as it can't escape that window [09:00] like a context menu could [09:00] jibel, Laney, is that testing meeting on IRC or hangout? [09:00] heheh [09:00] * Laney was just typing that [09:00] hangout is going to be a bit tricky for me right now but I can listen and type (I think) [09:01] might be able to say a few things in between as well [09:01] seb128, HO [09:01] k [09:01] well I'm going to join anyway, let's see how it goes [09:02] man [09:02] I don't know where my phone is :-o [09:02] oh no 2fa, k, will look after [09:09] Laney, bug 1688721 is reproducible on artful and more likely a general problem when installing from gnome-software than specific to gconf2 [09:09] bug 1688721 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "package gconf2-common 3.2.6-3ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1688721 [09:10] jibel, is that specific to gnome-software use then? [09:10] I guess debconf not working well there? [09:10] jibel: It's probably something to do with debconf, maybe g-s related [09:10] Robert already commented so I guess he's looking [09:14] and he said he made it happen in artful too [09:15] :+1: [09:16] good to see we kicked gconf out of default installs though :) [09:16] Spoke to Robert about that one last night, he is indeed looking at it [09:17] great [09:17] all good in the hood [09:17] word [09:18] sometimes [09:18] it seems like a bad idea to keep my phone on silent [09:20] you missed important calls/messages? [09:20] * willcooke sighs at LP. "Commented bugs" seems very random. [09:21] oh [09:21] there is a "sort by last update" option. Why the flip isn't that shown by default. [09:21] seb128: no I mean I can't find it by calling it :-) [09:21] ha [09:24] lol [09:31] Trevinho: ok I upgraded, cleaned out jhbuild (build & install), rebuilding now [09:42] Laney: ok, good... [09:42] let's see [09:42] * Laney is finding random build bugs along the way and filing patches :-) [09:48] Laney: oh, which ones? As I only got that and one in mutter [09:48] dunno, stuff [09:48] probably depends on build flags [09:48] * Laney has some Werror [09:58] * duflu makes dinner [09:58] (for some values of "dinner") [10:01] Trevinho: built [10:01] no coplains at all... right? [10:03] don't think so [10:03] and I have GtkClutter gir and typelib installed [13:50] flexiondotorg: hi, have you talked with sunweaver (Mike Gabriel) about his Unity-related forks? [13:50] I'm wondering how different they are from what Ubuntu uses and whether we could switch Unity7 to use the libraries he is maintaining [13:51] I've seen several show up in https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html over the past few days [15:11] cyphermox, any update on bug 1685870 ? [15:11] bug 1685870 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gnome-shell" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1685870 [15:11] cyphermox, are you waiting on the security review of gdm3 before finishing the gnome-shell MIR? [15:12] not especially, I just hadn't gone back to it, I saw that there were responses, just not what [15:19] cyphermox: by the way, I think I fixed your gdm issue LP: #1675933 if you want to give it a try later [15:19] Launchpad bug 1675933 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm fails to start" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1675933 [15:19] jbicha: yes, I believe that was the issue [15:20] that would explain why gdm would fail if installed on ubuntu-desktop (unity) and not when what you install is ubuntu-gnome directly [15:20] I'll forward the information to Beret. [15:27] Trevinho is drunk again [15:30] it's time! [15:30] Laney, like anyone believed in this "work" in Bali right? [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 [15:30] Meeting started Tue May 23 15:30:38 2017 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN (out), seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:30] o/ [15:30] o/ [15:31] \o [15:31] o/ [15:31] o/ [15:31] * JamieBennett waves [15:32] hey [15:32] I think that's enough of us to get started [15:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: andyrock [15:33] hey [15:33] so I've been working on software-properties-gtk [15:33] implementing the canonical-livepatch panel [15:33] I've already implemented the snap auto-install [15:33] now I'm working on an ubuntu-one sso dialog [15:34] do you have a reviewer for it? [15:34] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EQOca5ns/ubuntu-one-livepatch.png [15:34] seb128: not yet [15:34] didrocks maybe [15:34] eow [15:35] k, feel free to ask on the channel/use ubuntu-sponsors, I can help with reviews [15:35] kerning on that font looks a little wonky, the "To" especially. But it's not done yet, just sayin [15:35] Qt? [15:35] is that a new dialog? [15:36] or the one used in gnome-software today? [15:36] well it's got a headerbar so I guess not [15:36] andyrock, I had my design meeting today and m_pt / carla are happy to review the various UI bits as and when you're ready. Let me know when you're happy with it and I'll get that set up. [15:36] seb128: same design of gnome-software one [15:37] but sharing the code is hard [15:37] also does not make so much sense [15:37] k [15:37] result looks similar :-) [15:37] seb128: basically same *.ui file [15:37] willcooke: sure [15:38] thanks andyrock, good progress [15:38] let's press on with the meeting, we can come back to this afterwards if needed [15:38] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:38] hey [15:38] Catching up with things after 1 week of sprint and 1 week of leave. [15:38] eof [15:39] wb dgadomski! [15:39] thanks :) [15:39] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: didrocks [15:39] * I'm back! https://goo.gl/Qk39Vg [15:39] * Tutorial improvement day: fetch creation/updated dates from gdoc and markdown tutorials [15:39] * Add better markdown header support. Now, markdown tutorial can look like this: https://github.com/canonical-websites/tutorials.ubuntu.com/blob/master/examples/guidelines-snap-tutorials.md [15:39] * Amazon thingy tutorial: currently building some (very long) tutorial for some Amazon snap launch. Still a good week of work (at least). Some roadblocks though, trying to get help from Amazon. Will keep you posted :) [15:39] * Desktop livepatch discussions [15:39] . [15:39] wb didrocks! [15:39] thanks seb128 :) [15:39] *hugs* [15:40] didrocks, wb! [15:40] * didrocks hugs you all, have missed you guys! [15:40] :) [15:40] thx didrocks [15:40] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: duflu [15:41] * Landed my final contributions to Mir. [15:41] * Completed scanning ~1500 PulseAudio bugs for EOL. Over 1000 are now set to expire and vanish by end July. [15:41] * Completed a run through 400+ gnome-shell bugs. Over 200 of them will expire in July. [15:41] * Commenced looking at the priority bluetooth audio issues that koza and themuso have been wanting to SRU into xenial for a couple of months: [15:41] - Finding and setting up hardware [15:41] - Comparing behaviour between releases (artful is fine, xenial needs fixing) [15:41] - Reproducing bugs and verifying proposed fixes [15:41] - Trying to clarify and document the various bugs better [15:41] - Sadly finding and logging even more bluetooth and audio bugs [15:41] - Now preparing a debdiff that solves at least most/half the BT audio problems. [15:41] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: jbicha [15:41] • Enabled build tests for gdm3, gnome-shell [15:41] • Uploaded gnome-software 3.24.3 to artful [15:41] • Looked into Debian GNOME's svn-to-git packaging conversion [15:41] eow [15:42] thanks jbicha [15:42] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: jamesh [15:42] I've been working on getting gnome-builder to work with snaps. I [15:42] haven't yet got everything working, but the plugin I'm working on [15:42] consists of the following so far: [15:42] * a build system discovery class to detect snapcraft projects by [15:42] detecting the snapcraft.yaml file at one of the supported locations. [15:42] * a build system class for the discovery code to point at. [15:42] * a pipeline addin class to add the ability to launch snapcraft to [15:42] build the project. [15:42] I've still got a bit to do to get this all to fit together correctly, [15:42] but I think I'm close. To get a good user experience, I think we'll [15:42] need to have a new project template to get people started with their [15:42] snapcraft project. [15:42] #topic heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: heber [15:43] hey! [15:43] from the QA side I have: [15:43] * Upgrade tests are all green [15:43] * Results of upgrade tests added to grafana. [15:43] * Fixed static validation jobs and resumed the promotion of daily images to current [15:43] * Analysing Desktop test jobs which are failing in Jenkins [15:43] * Analysing Ubiquity test jobs which are failing in Jenkins [15:43] eof [15:44] thanks heber! Great to see the upgrade tests green [15:44] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: kenvandine [15:44] * Published the gnome extensions survey on OMG (survey closes today) and had some discussions about our plans with GNOME upstream. I agreed to share the survey results with them and discuss any plans we make based on the survey results before we act. [15:44] * Populated a gnome-3-24 xenial backports PPA with all the packages needed for the gnome-3-24 platform snap [15:44] * Updated gnome-3-24 platform snap to newer versions and depends [15:44] * Snap is building in LP now, will need to build an application snap to test it with in a VM next [15:44] * QUESTION: Do we care to build armhf and/or arm64 snaps? [15:44] EOF [15:45] kenvandine, I can help woth the testing, I've example of apps using it [15:45] kenvandine, if we can automate the ARM builds, then why not. But I'd say don't let it get in the way of building more snaps on i386/amd64 at this point. [15:45] seb128, i was going to ping you about that :) [15:45] good [15:45] willcooke, ok, easy to do in LP [15:45] cool [15:46] There aren't /many/ ARM desktops because U7 never really worked very well because of gfx drivers (right?) but I know f_lexiondotorg has a lot of MATE users on ARM [15:46] ok [15:47] a lot, when compare to how many U7 users were using ARM [15:47] GNOME Shell might not work that well with ARM either [15:47] +1 [15:47] worth a try if we get it for nearly free with Launchpad [15:47] they should run pretty well on MATE [15:48] kenvandine, any recent reading on how many people took the survery? [15:48] *survey [15:48] yesterday it was almost 17k [15:48] O_o [15:48] wowowowow [15:48] nice [15:49] good stuff, thanks kenvandine [15:49] and I saw you poked c_yphermox already re the MIRs, thanks [15:49] looking forward seeing what users say :-) [15:49] hopefully the seeds will be updated this week, but keep me posted so we can put the word out when they are [15:50] thanks kenvandine [15:50] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: Laney [15:50] willcooke, you could grease the wheels with security for gdm3 [15:50] ∘ Updated fwupd to 0.9.12 to test new Logitech firmware update path (works), meson conversion, required a backport of a polkit commit, submitted both to Debian & waiting for feedback before uploading to Ubuntu [15:50] ∘ theme reviews for Marco [15:50] ∘ discussions about things like updates and testing and stuff [15:50] ∘ test fix to gsd and build fixes to some other random things that I found while jhbuilding the world for Marco [15:50] ∘ slight debugging of a kernel that broke autopkgtest [15:50] ∘ HR reviews [15:50] ∘ PackageKit aptcc backend: fix for gstreamer 1.0 (upstream, waiting for review) [15:50] 🚻 [15:51] thanks Laney [15:51] kenvandine, lets discuss after the meeting [15:51] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: oSoMoN [15:51] • chromium: [15:51] ‣ updated beta to 59.0.3071.61 in PPA [15:51] ‣ updated dev to 60.0.3100.0 in PPA [15:51] ‣ realized that autopkgtests are outdated *and* currently do [15:51] nothing, removed them [15:51] ‣ adding new autopkgtests in beta branch based on selenium and [15:51] chromium's new headless mode [15:51] ‣ also looked into unit tests and why they are not being run at [15:51] package build time, they don't seem to be 100% reliable, needs further [15:51] investigation [15:51] • libreoffice: [15:51] ‣ got 5.3.3 artful autopkgtest running locally [15:51] ‣ pinged Bjoern and Rico to get feedback on packaging updates [15:51] ‣ prepared source package and handed over to Seb for sponsored upload [15:51] • submitted performance review for self [15:52] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: seb128 [15:52] • still some catching up after the time off work [15:52] • joined in several discussions (things for the team to work on for the cycle, langpacks use or not for documentation, updated gnome platform snap, upgrade testing, ...) [15:52] • upgraded laptop, setting up things to get started on artful work [15:52] [15:52] thanks seb128 [15:52] hope you got some sleep ;) [15:52] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: tkamppeter [15:53] - CUPS: Reported some bugs in the new feature of auto-creation of print queues for DNS-SD-advertised driverless printers. [15:53] - cups-filters: Synced Debian package of 1.14.0 into Ubuntu. [15:53] - Avahi: Commented in Trent LLoyd's upstream bug report about the needs for IPP-over-USB. [15:53] - Google Summer of Code 2017: Re-assignment of the student supposed to do the IPP backend for the print dialog as this backend is not needed any more. CUPS already contains the functionality of the backend and so the dialog gets the functionality via the CUPS backend. The student will now add PCLm support to cups-filters and with this our driverless printing support will also cover all Mopria and WiFi Direct printers. Answered student's qu [15:53] estions. [15:53] - Filled in performance review. [15:53] - Bugs. [15:54] thanks tkamppeter [15:54] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: Trevinho [15:54] Put down that cocktail [15:54] I LOVE YOU GUYS [15:55] he doesn't want to [15:55] (italian accent ^) [15:55] · Fixed some building issues in mutter [15:55] · Some more theme tweaks [15:55] · Started workin in dark popover theme [15:55] · Working in fractional scaling: mutter experimental options [15:55] · Wrote a blogpost about theme call for testing http://go.3v1n0.net/2rO9HEc [15:55] · Fixed some more issues of the patches to get toolbars (instead of headerbars) in gnomeapps [15:55] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: robert_ancell [15:56] (humm, lagging a bit here) [15:56] - Fix debconf prompts not working in GNOME Software using PackageKit [15:56] - Fix crash in PackageKit when querying about local .debs [15:56] - Investigated use of ODRS as review server for snaps [15:56] - Simple Scan 3.25.2 released [15:56] - Open discussions about non-confined snaps in gnome-software [15:56] - Trello board tidying [15:56] - Investigating Chrome not installing in GNOME Software (gconf package stalling install) [15:56] - SRU confirming [15:56] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: AOB [15:56] Seb, L_aney and I have been trying out a few options for Trello [15:56] We've settled on a format: [15:56] https://trello.com/b/0T55ivzN/ubuntu-desktop-17-10-cycle [15:57] Put general todo items in the Propsed col. And then we can review them and once something is agreed it will move to Backlog and then proceed through [15:57] That board is public read-only [15:57] but you should all have read/write [15:57] jbicha, I've added you too [15:58] So the next step is to start populating Proposed [15:59] Seb/L_aney/Me have a meeting tomorrow to talk about the division of the projects, so after that someone will be in touch with you to follow up on task breakdown etc. [16:00] You should be able to start populating Proposed already though. If in doubt, more detail is preferable to less detail, we can always combine, remove cards as necessary [16:01] -/- [16:01] do you had bugs manually or through the import script? [16:01] Reviews - I should have all the individual reviews done by EOW, so I we'll go through them in our 1:1s next week [16:02] seb128, I can import individual bugs automatically, but still not move them through the board automatically [16:02] tag a bug "desktop-trello-import" and ping me to import them. I don't trust the script enough to cron job it yet/ [16:02] hmm [16:03] I don't know how fine grained we should go with bugs on there [16:03] it could get too crowded [16:03] yeah [16:03] yeah, I agree. Imported bugs blindly would be a mess. Let's stick to project tasks and leave LP for bugs (unless its a special case, in which case we can import it on an ad hoc basis) [16:04] at least having oem-team requested ones might make sense [16:04] nod [16:05] oh, Trevinho - design will happily review theme changes, but we need to give them a hand getting something set up to test with. Let's discuss tomorrow. [16:06] Anyone got anything else they want to talk about? [16:06] Going once? [16:06] o/ [16:06] s/?/. [16:06] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: seb128 [16:07] do you know what's the status of robert's work on making lightdm and gnome-shell buddies? [16:07] that was to be done by end of match on your montreal notes [16:07] or going back to gdm then [16:07] is that still on track? [16:07] He's still working on G-S crashers and SRUing fixes. But we think the gconf one is the last one. [16:07] Should start on Monday [16:08] k [16:08] thanks [16:08] Bit behind, but those G-S issues were important to fix IMO [16:08] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-05-23 | Current topic: AOB [16:08] I noticed that Mike Gabriel from Debian MATE appears to be maintaining some indicator pkgs in Debian now, is there a reason those should be maintained in bzr/bileto [16:08] I hope lightdm not being ready doesn't block us on seed changes [16:08] or can we just sync those from Debian if they're compatible with Unity? [16:09] jbicha, is that the forked versions? [16:09] some were forked, but he also uploaded https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libdbusmenu today [16:09] do we know why they forked rather than trying to take over maintaining the official ones? [16:09] or contributing to maintain those [16:10] I don't know yet, I intend to talk to him about it [16:10] k, I think we need to sort that out [16:10] we don't want to have 2 slightly different versions of the same things in the archive [16:10] not knowing which one should be used then and why [16:10]