| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:18 |
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| lordievader[m] | Good morning | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader[m] | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | working day here | 05:26 |
| lotuspsychje | and 25 degrees | 05:26 |
| lordievader[m] | How are you doing, lotuspsychje ? | 05:29 |
| lordievader[m] | If is going to be only 23 here | 05:32 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:14 |
| lordievader[m] | Hey ducasse, how are you doing? | 06:14 |
| ducasse | good thanks, how about you, lordievader[m] ? | 06:16 |
| ducasse | busy day ahead? | 06:16 |
| lordievader[m] | Yeah somewhat. Doing good, btw, sitting in the train. | 06:17 |
| lordievader[m] | Do you have a busy day ahead too? | 06:17 |
| ducasse | not really, had a lot to do for a couple of days but think i've caught up now. | 06:19 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | working day here guys | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz | 06:22 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 10:13 |
| EriC^^ | anybody good with gaming? | 13:06 |
| EriC^^ | gaming pc's? | 13:06 |
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| ducasse | EriC^^: #gamingonlinux ? | 13:28 |
| akik | i want to understand why installing and using multiple desktops in a ubuntu installation has been made so difficult | 13:57 |
| akik | i just installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop into a kubuntu installation, which in turn broke my kde | 13:57 |
| akik | the same happened when i installed unity into a kubuntu installation | 13:58 |
| oerheks | the fun part starts when you want to remove one desktop | 14:00 |
| oerheks | * usually | 14:01 |
| akik | i just uninstalled the gnome packages | 14:01 |
| lordievader[m] | Apart from menu pollution they usually work nicely along side each other... right? | 14:02 |
| oerheks | i have read more users with the same issue, not sure kubuntu or neon | 14:02 |
| akik | lordievader[m]: in this last attempt, kde just won't start any more | 14:03 |
| lordievader[m] | akik: Anything in the logs as to why? | 14:04 |
| ducasse | akik: i've seen most problems like that when using the *ubuntu-desktop packages, as opposed to just the metapackage for the actual desktop. ymmv. | 14:04 |
| akik | lordievader[m]: well i only looked into .xsession-errors but there was nothing there. i only got a black screen | 14:04 |
| lordievader[m] | Hmm, a new profile may very well help for that. | 14:05 |
| akik | i can test again without using the ubuntu*desktop | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | it's best to stick with one DE, one can always in stall apps from other DEs and they usually run just fine | 14:08 |
| akik | BluesKaj: the thing is i'd like to learn to use the other DEs too | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | akik, then install them in VM or a different partition | 14:10 |
| akik | BluesKaj: that's in my opinion waste of resources | 14:10 |
| akik | let's see what i get by now installing "gnome" and "gnome-shell" | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | you don't need a large space to run an OS successfully, one can share data like media files if you place them on a a separate partition | 14:12 |
| ducasse | akik: that approach has usually worked well for me. wasn't there an open bug where unity and kde could not be installed at the same time? | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | is unity going to receive community support after 18.04 ? | 14:14 |
| akik | ducasse: yes that was for 16.04 with those account-plugins | 14:14 |
| akik | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-plugins/+bug/1574045 | 14:14 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1451728 in kaccounts-integration (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1574045 [master] kde-config-telepathy-accounts package install error" [Critical,In progress] | 14:14 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: unity 7, you mean? maybe - haven't heard anything. | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, ok, neither have I | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | I don't hear many users lamenting Unity's demise | 14:17 |
| ducasse | i think even lotus has stopped and is digging into gnome instead ;) | 14:18 |
| akik | so after installing gnome and gnome-shell with their dependecies, kde becomes totally broken. i created a new user and the default for the new user is something totally weird, elements in wrong places | 14:22 |
| akik | but hey, gnome works | 14:23 |
| ducasse | and kde worked properly before you installed gnome? | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | so does kde/plasma, and it's fine on it's own :-) | 14:25 |
| akik | ducasse: yes | 14:26 |
| akik | and now if i remove gnome, kde will start working again | 14:27 |
| ducasse | akik: weird. i wonder if there could be some xdg-autostart stuff for example that messes things up? | 14:27 |
| akik | i wouldn't know. i've just used xdg-mime and xdg-open | 14:28 |
| akik | don't know where those settings would be | 14:28 |
| ducasse | look what is in /etc/xdg/autostart/ | 14:28 |
| akik | these are there: https://pastebin.com/raw/rjSy7nud | 14:30 |
| ducasse | stuff there should be set to only run under compatible envs, but something could have been overlooked | 14:30 |
| akik | OnlyShowIn <- that? | 14:31 |
| ducasse | oh wow, i have like 7 or 8 entries there | 14:31 |
| ducasse | plus AutostartCondition=GNOME3 etc | 14:32 |
| akik | gnome-sound-applet.desktop:OnlyShowIn=; | 14:32 |
| ducasse | i have no clue which of these are most likely to affect things, but at least stuff like unity-settings-daemon should probably not be running when kde is active | 14:36 |
| ducasse | bbiab | 14:39 |
| akik | none of them were absolutely necessary for gnome | 14:43 |
| akik | i moved them all elsewhere but it didn't affect either gnome or kde in any way | 14:44 |
| akik | gnome still works, kde is broken. i get a black screen for my original user and some weird kde setup for the new user | 14:44 |
| akik | ok got that fixed. for some reason the kde workspace type for new user = netbook. by changing that back to "desktop" i get now a working kde | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | akik, odd , i was lookinmg for that setting in system setttings , but there's no kde workspace option | 14:57 |
| akik | BluesKaj: it's in workspace behavior/workspace | 14:58 |
| akik | what's another weird thing is that the kde theme has changed | 14:59 |
| akik | maybe it's related to that netbook setting | 14:59 |
| akik | also restore the xdg autostart files and still working | 15:00 |
| akik | restored | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | akik, nope, no option, just information tips , and visual feedback | 15:01 |
| akik | i'm using kde plasma 4 | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj | ok, no wonder | 15:02 |
| akik | does the search find it in system settings? | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj | .plasma 5 here | 15:05 |
| akik | BluesKaj: i meant do you find it in plasma 5 system settings | 15:10 |
| akik | there's the search box in it | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | the path is the same, but the options are not | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | and it's the same on my laptop kubuntu 17.04 | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | plasma 5 is much different then plasma 4, akik | 15:15 |
| BluesKaj | than | 15:15 |
| immu | hi all | 17:56 |
| Bashing-om | Hey hey ... \o : See what the day brings :) | 18:01 |
| immu | yeah yeah its Bashing-om :) | 18:08 |
| immu | i thinks others are away Bashing-om | 18:08 |
| immu | brb | 18:11 |
| Bashing-om | immu: Oh well, looks to be slow all over . | 18:11 |
| fr0tzed | hello | 18:23 |
| immu | hello | 18:26 |
| immu | BluesKaj, EriC^^ ducasse hi all | 18:27 |
| EriC^^ | hi immu | 18:27 |
| immu | hi eric how are you doing?> | 18:27 |
| ducasse | \o | 18:27 |
| BluesKaj | hi immu | 18:27 |
| * BluesKaj takes a break from lawn mowing atm | 18:29 | |
| immu | today install gnome shell in ubuntu | 18:29 |
| BluesKaj | ok, bbl | 18:32 |
| immu | bbl? BluesKaj | 18:34 |
| ducasse | "be back later" | 18:35 |
| immu | ooo thanks ducasse | 18:35 |
| EriC^^ | immu: good yourself? | 18:40 |
| immu | EriC^^, i am good to just bloated after a heavy meal :) | 18:41 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 18:41 |
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