kjackal | Good morning Juju Wolrd! | 07:27 |
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Zic | lazyPower / ryebot : hi, a night passed for me, let me backlog and connect to the VPN of the office and I will send you that :) | 09:57 |
lazyPower | Zic: sounds good. Thanks for digging into this | 11:45 |
magicaltrout | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0x0KYChq4 | 11:46 |
lazyPower | o/ magicaltrout | 11:51 |
lazyPower | did you figure out your DNS conundrum? | 11:51 |
rick_h | for the record, I love the word conundrum | 11:58 |
rick_h | and mornings and such | 11:58 |
jam | rick_h: i wonder if that says a lot about you | 11:59 |
jam | but it is a fun word | 11:59 |
jam | rick_h: not to be confused with corundum | 11:59 |
wpk | coriander? | 11:59 |
rick_h | lazyPower: I feel like if we sat down to cover the things that "say a lot about me" we'd be here a while :) | 11:59 |
rick_h | wpk: not dinner time yet, ssssh | 11:59 |
Mmike | lazyPower, rick_h - hello, lads. Who do I ping these days for review.charmstore.com, do you know, maybe? Tim? | 12:01 |
magicaltrout | i didn't lazyPower | 12:02 |
magicaltrout | but i'm on vacation next week so i'm over it | 12:02 |
lazyPower | magicaltrout: fair enough | 12:02 |
lazyPower | rick_h: :) | 12:03 |
lazyPower | Mmike: what can I help you with? | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | when ya'll get bored...... | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | 19:59 < magicaltrout> marcoceppi: can you go through the Developer credits backlog when you get a spare | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | slot? :) | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | 20:00 < magicaltrout> also can someone review my gitlab charm | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | 20:00 < magicaltrout> not cause i'm overly bothered about the promotion, i just want to get a code | 12:03 |
magicaltrout | review to see if I'm following the process for the review queue in general | 12:04 |
magicaltrout | ta | 12:04 |
Mmike | lazyPower, trying to request a review for a charm, but I end up with "review.jujucharms.com didn�t send any data." and "ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE" after I click 'Submit' button on the request-review page | 12:05 |
lazyPower | Mmike: ok thats interesting. Yeah tvansteenburgh would be a good person to ping on that, but i have news for both you and magicaltrout. | 12:06 |
lazyPower | we haven't publically announced this yet as there's still more planning/discussion that needs to happen, but we'll be decomissioning the review queue. Which in turn is going to bring in some new process/policy for charms. | 12:07 |
magicaltrout | aww but this is like the first time I've ever tried to do anything properly as well.... | 12:07 |
lazyPower | magicaltrout: you wore us down man. hows it feel? :) | 12:08 |
* lazyPower assigns credit/blame to magicaltrout | 12:08 | |
magicaltrout | ironically the previous time i attempted to get some stuff reviewed was when you decomissioned the old review queue | 12:09 |
magicaltrout | so its plausible | 12:09 |
Mmike | lazyPower, yup, just had a short chat with dosaboy, he mentioned something in that manner | 12:13 |
Mmike | lazyPower, but in the meantime I do need to get charm changes to the charmstore! :) I'll ping tim in an hour or so, it's too early for him yet | 12:14 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: which Tim are you looking for? | 12:16 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, hello! you sire. Having issues when trying to put a charm up for a review in the review.jujucharms.com | 12:17 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike, looking, one sec | 12:20 |
Mmike | thnx | 12:20 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: hrm, revq is getting a 503 from the lp api at the moment... | 12:22 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: asking about it in #launchpad | 12:24 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, ack, thank you for looking into it | 12:25 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: i've asked wgrant to comment over there, so i'll wait and he what he says | 12:30 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: i've seen this once before - it seems to happen to some lp accounts but not others | 12:30 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: one way forward would be to have someone else submit the review, if the charm is maintained by a team | 12:31 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, ack, thank you. It's no rush, I'd say. | 12:31 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, well, it's maintained by the mongodb-charmers team, which I'm part of... but I always pushed the charm to my personal namespace and the asked for a review | 12:32 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, you think I should try doing it from mongodb-charmers namespace / | 12:33 |
Mmike | ? | 12:33 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: ok, so you've never had this prob before? that gives me hope that it's temporary | 12:33 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: yeah, worth a try | 12:33 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, nope, this is a first timer. not that I did tons of reviews either | 12:33 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: or just wait to see what wgrant says about that error | 12:33 |
tvansteenburgh | up to you | 12:33 |
Mmike | i'll wait a bit, have some other things on my plate (NOT lunch, yet :D ), as I said, no rush yet :) | 12:34 |
Mmike | tvansteenburgh, thank you for the help | 12:34 |
tvansteenburgh | Mmike: k, np | 12:34 |
jamespage | o/ | 12:53 |
jamespage | tvansteenburgh: hey - can we get a new charmhelpers released out? I'm working on landing support for OpenStack Pike and our reactive charms need a released version with the right bits... | 12:53 |
tvansteenburgh | jamespage: will do | 12:53 |
jamespage | tvansteenburgh: also can we talk about moving charmhelpers to github? | 12:53 |
tvansteenburgh | yes! | 12:53 |
jamespage | I'd like to help make that happen if that's useful | 12:54 |
tvansteenburgh | that'd be great | 12:54 |
jamespage | I feel we can make alot of use of things like travis which is harder on LP | 12:54 |
tvansteenburgh | yes | 12:54 |
jamespage | tvansteenburgh: maybe the first step is to just get the code migrated over; then we can iterate from that point onwards | 12:54 |
jamespage | tvansteenburgh: tell you what - lemme post to that effect on #juju | 12:55 |
jamespage | ML that is | 12:55 |
tvansteenburgh | +1 | 12:55 |
rick_h | erik_lonroth: for our party in a few feel free to just follow this link: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick-harding | 12:55 |
tvansteenburgh | jamespage: thanks! | 12:55 |
jamespage | metaphorical bull grabbed by the horns | 12:58 |
jamespage | shout me down if I'm sounding truly insane :-) | 12:58 |
tvansteenburgh | :D | 12:58 |
jamespage | marcoceppi: ^^ | 12:58 |
tvansteenburgh | jamespage: charmhelpers-0.16.0 uploaded to pypi | 12:59 |
jamespage | tvansteenburgh: tvm | 12:59 |
jamespage | hmm is that actually a thing | 12:59 |
jamespage | ta very much | 13:00 |
tvansteenburgh | np | 13:00 |
rick_h | erik_lonroth: around for our chat? | 13:02 |
magicaltrout | the heat is getting to jamespage | 13:06 |
jamespage | magicaltrout: could be could be | 13:06 |
jamespage | magicaltrout: hows it on your side of the county? | 13:07 |
magicaltrout | Warm | 13:07 |
magicaltrout | although i'm off on the broads for a week next week | 13:07 |
magicaltrout | so hopefully it'll stay | 13:07 |
jamespage | magicaltrout: which part? | 13:12 |
magicaltrout | jamespage: Boating Stalham down to Hickling then down Acle then up to bure marshes(bewilderwood for the kids) | 13:14 |
jamespage | magicaltrout: nice | 13:15 |
jamespage | magicaltrout: my first job was working for a development company in stalham | 13:15 |
jamespage | meadowhouse bar lazer - I wonder what happened to them? | 13:15 |
magicaltrout | we'll see, never done 5 days on a small boat with the kids! ;) | 13:15 |
* jamespage goes to look | 13:15 | |
magicaltrout | hey lazyPower i could see you fitting into the narrowboat lifestyle nicely ;) | 13:16 |
magicaltrout | cruising up and down the canals | 13:16 |
lazyPower | magicaltrout: its not that far of a stretch to the imagination | 13:20 |
lazyPower | i pretty much inhabit a narrow living space now :) | 13:21 |
admcleod | magicaltrout: did you just plan a trip to 'places with ridiculous names' then? | 13:22 |
magicaltrout | hell admcleod i'm from Yorkshire where we get used to americans pronouncing Ruswarp and Grosmont very wrong :) | 13:23 |
admcleod | presumably they're there because they thought they were going to lie-chester square and got the wrong train | 13:23 |
magicaltrout | ah you've met those people then | 13:23 |
admcleod | i was one :( | 13:24 |
magicaltrout | thats what happens with you hold a british passport but don't really like the country! ;) | 13:27 |
admcleod | hey, i like scotland | 13:27 |
magicaltrout | they don't have a passport | 13:27 |
magicaltrout | ... yet | 13:27 |
marcoceppi | jamespage: I just created the github repo, in advance of the vote passing | 13:29 |
jamespage | marcoceppi: awesome - url? | 13:30 |
marcoceppi | github.com/juju/charm-helpers | 13:30 |
rick_h | bdx: ping | 18:05 |
bdx | yo | 18:10 |
rahworkx | hello all, Was wondering if anyone could explain how the mongodb charm consumes storage ? any options for eps backed storage? | 18:19 |
rahworkx | eps=ebs | 18:19 |
Zic | lazyPower / ryebot : sorry, I was far away from my computer this day, was not planed :( -> here is what you asked: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24657948/ | 18:29 |
lazyPower | Zic: fantastic, this gives me someplace to start. That etcd has an invalid cluster config from the relationship vs what the leader is reporting | 18:30 |
dakj_ | Hello guys, a question I'd like to create a new charm, an example could be a video surveillance server type MotionEye, and make that on juju store. What do I must to do? Which are the steps to make? Is there a guide to help to build a charm? Thanks | 19:53 |
hatch | dakj_ you should probably start here: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/authors-intro | 19:54 |
hatch | and feel free to ask questions here or on the juju mailing list | 19:54 |
dakj_ | hatch: thanks a lot, I'll begin from that. | 19:56 |
hatch | dakj_ we're still working on the documentation so if you find anything lacking/missing/wrong feel free to file an issue/pr here: https://github.com/juju/docs | 19:58 |
dakj_ | hatch: ok perfect. | 19:59 |
dakj_ | hatch: I'm seeing that on juju store is not present Nginx, if you look for "web" there a bundle called "Web Infrastructure In A Box" where it's present Nginx but if you try to find alone there is just " | 20:09 |
dakj_ | nginx passenger" why? | 20:09 |
hatch | nobody has written a nginx charm, typically it's installed within a charm as an internal server | 20:10 |
hatch | nginx passenger is quite old, I wouldn't recommend using it as it only supports precise | 20:10 |
hatch | dakj_ with all that said though, nothing saying you couldn't write one :) | 20:13 |
dakj_ | hatch: I try it!!! | 20:14 |
hatch | :D | 20:14 |
dakj_ | hatch: I'm following that https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.1/authors-charm-building | 20:14 |
hatch | I can see an argument for nginx being a standalone charm, and a subordinate | 20:14 |
marcoceppi | not really a subordinate, maybe a standalone charm | 20:15 |
marcoceppi | it's too hard to model the intricaces required to configure nginx as a subordiante where you woulnd't ever switch out that charm for another web server | 20:15 |
marcoceppi | which is why NGINX exists as a layer today | 20:16 |
hatch | marcoceppi ohh there is a layer for it | 20:16 |
hatch | TIL | 20:16 |
hatch | :) | 20:16 |
marcoceppi | absolutely | 20:16 |
marcoceppi | http://interfaces.juju.solutions/ about half way down | 20:16 |
hatch | and there it is http://interfaces.juju.solutions/layer/nginx/ | 20:16 |
marcoceppi | it's used in quite a few charms | 20:17 |
hatch | marcoceppi would be cool if we could create a dependency graph for layers to see what charms are using which layers | 20:18 |
marcoceppi | it already exists | 20:18 |
marcoceppi | but the charm store refuses to ingest any dot files, so they get excluded from the store quite often | 20:18 |
hatch | ahhh | 20:19 |
marcoceppi | if you want to tackle a year+ old bug: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/charmstore-client/issues/204 | 20:19 |
hatch | :D | 20:20 |
dakj | <marcoceppi & hatch: I'm sorry but what does that means? | 20:30 |
hatch | dakj nothing to worry about :) | 20:30 |
hatch | charms can be built by mixing layers, and we were just talking about a way to know which charms use them | 20:31 |
dakj | hatch: is it to complicate to begin? Because I don't see for example a LAMP or LEMP bundle it's for the same way explained of marcoceppi? | 20:36 |
dakj | hatch: sorry I want to say, using NGINX as example to build a charm is too hard as starting | 20:39 |
dakj | as the beginning | 20:42 |
hatch | dakj so the first thing you might want to try to do is simply creating a charm which installs something | 20:42 |
hatch | regardless of what it is, then expand from there | 20:42 |
dakj | ok | 20:43 |
hatch | dakj on the docs navigation there is a heading "Developer Guide" It's probably best to read at least Getting Started, Event Cycle, Charm Layers, Interface Layers first | 20:46 |
dakj | hatch: ok I'll begin from that to understand how it works | 20:47 |
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