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kjackalGood morning Juju Wolrd!07:27
ZiclazyPower / ryebot : hi, a night passed for me, let me backlog and connect to the VPN of the office and I will send you that :)09:57
lazyPowerZic: sounds good. Thanks for digging into this11:45
magicaltrouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0x0KYChq411:46
lazyPowero/ magicaltrout11:51
lazyPowerdid you figure out your DNS conundrum?11:51
rick_hfor the record, I love the word conundrum11:58
rick_hand mornings and such11:58
jamrick_h: i wonder if that says a lot about you11:59
jambut it is a fun word11:59
jamrick_h: not to be confused with corundum11:59
wpkcoriander?11:59
rick_hlazyPower: I feel like if we sat down to cover the things that "say a lot about me" we'd be here a while :)11:59
rick_hwpk: not dinner time yet, ssssh11:59
MmikelazyPower, rick_h - hello, lads. Who do I ping these days for review.charmstore.com, do you know, maybe? Tim?12:01
magicaltrouti didn't lazyPower12:02
magicaltroutbut i'm on vacation next week so i'm over it12:02
lazyPowermagicaltrout: fair enough12:02
lazyPowerrick_h: :)12:03
lazyPowerMmike: what can I help you with?12:03
magicaltroutwhen ya'll get bored......12:03
magicaltrout19:59 < magicaltrout> marcoceppi: can you go through the Developer credits backlog when you get a spare12:03
magicaltrout                      slot? :)12:03
magicaltrout20:00 < magicaltrout> also can someone review my gitlab charm12:03
magicaltrout20:00 < magicaltrout> not cause i'm overly bothered about the promotion, i just want to get a code12:03
magicaltrout                      review to see if I'm following the process for the review queue in general12:04
magicaltroutta12:04
MmikelazyPower, trying to request a review for a charm, but I end up with "review.jujucharms.com didn�t send any data." and "ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE" after I click 'Submit' button on the request-review page12:05
lazyPowerMmike: ok thats interesting. Yeah tvansteenburgh would be a good person to ping on that, but i have news for both you and magicaltrout.12:06
lazyPowerwe haven't publically announced this yet as there's still more planning/discussion that needs to happen, but we'll be decomissioning the review queue. Which in turn is going to bring in some new process/policy for charms.12:07
magicaltroutaww but this is like the first time I've ever tried to do anything properly as well....12:07
lazyPowermagicaltrout: you wore us down man. hows it feel? :)12:08
* lazyPower assigns credit/blame to magicaltrout12:08
magicaltroutironically the previous time i attempted to get some stuff reviewed was when you decomissioned the old review queue12:09
magicaltroutso its plausible12:09
MmikelazyPower, yup, just had a short chat with dosaboy, he mentioned something in that manner12:13
MmikelazyPower, but in the meantime I do need to get charm changes to the charmstore! :) I'll ping tim in an hour or so, it's too early for him yet12:14
tvansteenburghMmike: which Tim are you looking for?12:16
Mmiketvansteenburgh, hello! you sire. Having issues when trying to put a charm up for a review in the review.jujucharms.com12:17
tvansteenburghMmike, looking, one sec12:20
Mmikethnx12:20
tvansteenburghMmike: hrm, revq is getting a 503 from the lp api at the moment...12:22
tvansteenburghMmike: asking about it in #launchpad12:24
Mmiketvansteenburgh, ack, thank you for looking into it12:25
tvansteenburghMmike: i've asked wgrant to comment over there, so i'll wait and he what he says12:30
tvansteenburghMmike: i've seen this once before - it seems to happen to some lp accounts but not others12:30
tvansteenburghMmike: one way forward would be to have someone else submit the review, if the charm is maintained by a team12:31
Mmiketvansteenburgh, ack, thank you. It's no rush, I'd say.12:31
Mmiketvansteenburgh, well, it's maintained by the mongodb-charmers team, which I'm part of... but I always pushed the charm to my personal namespace and the asked for a review12:32
Mmiketvansteenburgh, you think I should try doing it from mongodb-charmers namespace /12:33
Mmike?12:33
tvansteenburghMmike: ok, so you've never had this prob before? that gives me hope that it's temporary12:33
tvansteenburghMmike: yeah, worth a try12:33
Mmiketvansteenburgh, nope, this is a first timer. not that I did tons of reviews either12:33
tvansteenburghMmike: or just wait to see what wgrant says about that error12:33
tvansteenburghup to you12:33
Mmikei'll wait a bit, have some other things on my plate (NOT lunch, yet :D ), as I said, no rush yet :)12:34
Mmiketvansteenburgh, thank you for the help12:34
tvansteenburghMmike: k, np12:34
jamespageo/12:53
jamespagetvansteenburgh: hey - can we get a new charmhelpers released out? I'm working on landing support for OpenStack Pike and our reactive charms need a released version with the right bits...12:53
tvansteenburghjamespage: will do12:53
jamespagetvansteenburgh: also can we talk about moving charmhelpers to github?12:53
tvansteenburghyes!12:53
jamespageI'd like to help make that happen if that's useful12:54
tvansteenburghthat'd be great12:54
jamespageI feel we can make alot of use of things like travis which is harder on LP12:54
tvansteenburghyes12:54
jamespagetvansteenburgh: maybe the first step is to just get the code migrated over; then we can iterate from that point onwards12:54
jamespagetvansteenburgh: tell you what - lemme post to that effect on #juju12:55
jamespageML that is12:55
tvansteenburgh+112:55
rick_herik_lonroth: for our party in a few feel free to just follow this link: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick-harding12:55
tvansteenburghjamespage: thanks!12:55
jamespagemetaphorical bull grabbed by the horns12:58
jamespageshout me down if I'm sounding truly insane :-)12:58
tvansteenburgh:D12:58
jamespagemarcoceppi: ^^12:58
tvansteenburghjamespage: charmhelpers-0.16.0 uploaded to pypi12:59
jamespagetvansteenburgh: tvm12:59
jamespagehmm is that actually a thing12:59
jamespageta very much13:00
tvansteenburghnp13:00
rick_herik_lonroth: around for our chat?13:02
magicaltroutthe heat is getting to jamespage13:06
jamespagemagicaltrout: could be could be13:06
jamespagemagicaltrout: hows it on your side of the county?13:07
magicaltroutWarm13:07
magicaltroutalthough i'm off on the broads for a week next week13:07
magicaltroutso hopefully it'll stay13:07
jamespagemagicaltrout: which part?13:12
magicaltroutjamespage: Boating Stalham down to Hickling then down Acle then up to bure marshes(bewilderwood for the kids)13:14
jamespagemagicaltrout: nice13:15
jamespagemagicaltrout: my first job was working for a development company in stalham13:15
jamespagemeadowhouse bar lazer - I wonder what happened to them?13:15
magicaltroutwe'll see, never done 5 days on a small boat with the kids! ;)13:15
* jamespage goes to look13:15
magicaltrouthey lazyPower i could see you fitting into the narrowboat lifestyle nicely ;)13:16
magicaltroutcruising up and down the canals13:16
lazyPowermagicaltrout: its not that far of a stretch to the imagination13:20
lazyPoweri pretty much inhabit a narrow living space now :)13:21
admcleodmagicaltrout: did you just plan a trip to 'places with ridiculous names' then?13:22
magicaltrouthell admcleod i'm from Yorkshire where we get used to americans pronouncing Ruswarp and Grosmont very wrong :)13:23
admcleodpresumably they're there because they thought they were going to lie-chester square and got the wrong train13:23
magicaltroutah you've met those people then13:23
admcleodi was one :(13:24
magicaltroutthats what happens with you hold a british passport but don't really like the country! ;)13:27
admcleodhey, i like scotland13:27
magicaltroutthey don't have a passport13:27
magicaltrout... yet13:27
marcoceppijamespage: I just created the github repo, in advance of the vote passing13:29
jamespagemarcoceppi: awesome - url?13:30
marcoceppigithub.com/juju/charm-helpers13:30
rick_hbdx: ping18:05
bdxyo18:10
rahworkxhello all, Was wondering if anyone could explain how the mongodb charm consumes storage ? any options for eps backed storage?18:19
rahworkxeps=ebs18:19
ZiclazyPower / ryebot : sorry, I was far away from my computer this day, was not planed :( -> here is what you asked: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24657948/18:29
lazyPowerZic: fantastic, this gives me someplace to start. That etcd has an invalid cluster config from the relationship vs what the leader is reporting18:30
dakj_Hello guys, a question I'd like to create a new charm, an example could be a  video surveillance server type MotionEye, and make that on juju store. What do I must to do? Which are the steps to make? Is there a guide to help to build a charm? Thanks19:53
hatchdakj_ you should probably start here: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/authors-intro19:54
hatchand feel free to ask questions here or on the juju mailing list19:54
dakj_hatch: thanks a lot, I'll begin from that.19:56
hatchdakj_ we're still working on the documentation so if you find anything lacking/missing/wrong feel free to file an issue/pr here: https://github.com/juju/docs19:58
dakj_hatch: ok perfect.19:59
dakj_hatch: I'm seeing that on juju store is not present Nginx, if you look for "web" there a bundle called "Web Infrastructure In A Box" where it's present Nginx but if you try to find alone there is just "20:09
dakj_nginx passenger" why?20:09
hatchnobody has written a nginx charm, typically it's installed within a charm as an internal server20:10
hatchnginx passenger is quite old, I wouldn't recommend using it as it only supports precise20:10
hatchdakj_ with all that said though, nothing saying you couldn't write one :)20:13
dakj_hatch: I try it!!!20:14
hatch:D20:14
dakj_hatch: I'm following that https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.1/authors-charm-building20:14
hatchI can see an argument for nginx being a standalone charm, and a subordinate20:14
marcoceppinot really a subordinate, maybe a standalone charm20:15
marcoceppiit's too hard to model the intricaces required to configure nginx as a subordiante where you woulnd't ever switch out that charm for another web server20:15
marcoceppiwhich is why NGINX exists as a layer today20:16
hatchmarcoceppi ohh there is a layer for it20:16
hatchTIL20:16
hatch:)20:16
marcoceppiabsolutely20:16
marcoceppihttp://interfaces.juju.solutions/ about half way down20:16
hatchand there it is http://interfaces.juju.solutions/layer/nginx/20:16
marcoceppiit's used in quite a few charms20:17
hatchmarcoceppi would be cool if we could create a dependency graph for layers to see what charms are using which layers20:18
marcoceppiit already exists20:18
marcoceppibut the charm store refuses to ingest any dot files, so they get excluded from the store quite often20:18
hatchahhh20:19
marcoceppiif you want to tackle a year+ old bug: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/charmstore-client/issues/20420:19
hatch:D20:20
dakj <marcoceppi & hatch: I'm sorry but what does that means?20:30
hatchdakj nothing to worry about :)20:30
hatchcharms can be built by mixing layers, and we were just talking about a way to know which charms use them20:31
dakjhatch: is it to complicate to begin? Because I don't see for example a LAMP or LEMP bundle it's for the same way explained of marcoceppi?20:36
dakjhatch: sorry I want to say, using NGINX as example to build a charm is too hard as starting20:39
dakjas the beginning20:42
hatchdakj so the first thing you might want to try to do is simply creating a charm which installs something20:42
hatchregardless of what it is, then expand from there20:42
dakjok20:43
hatchdakj on the docs navigation there is a heading "Developer Guide" It's probably best to read at least Getting Started, Event Cycle, Charm Layers, Interface Layers first20:46
dakjhatch: ok I'll begin from that to understand how it works20:47

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