[00:07] <mparillo> Is this still the case? System Tray Icons cannot be re-ordered? https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/4rolzw/customize_the_order_of_system_tray_icons/
[05:39] <naruu> Hi. Is this a known bug: I login, then logout, login again. Then the kwallet is unable to open and asking endless for the password.
[05:50] <valorie> naruu: I've not heard anyone else mention this
[05:54] <naruu> I'm trying to switch back to KDE since Kubuntu 15.10. Every release had this bug.
[05:57] <naruu> How can I debug this bug?
[06:01] <naruu> So now I've done this again. Login, logout, login again and the problem is showing up again: Error message is: The program "akonadi_googlecontacts_resource_0" has requested opening kdewallet.
[06:01] <naruu> Now when I enter the password I get error code -9.
[06:05] <valorie> def. sounds like a bug, naruu
[06:06] <naruu> Yes. This bug is in all versions of KDE plasma I've tested.
[06:06] <naruu> It drives me crazy
[06:06] <naruu> How can I debug this?
[06:07] <naruu> Because I have to reboot the system to get rid of this endless password questioning
[09:45] <auie> Helle everybody :-)
[09:45] <auie> I mean "Hello"
[09:47] <acheronUK> auie: hi
[09:48] <auie> Please, would you suggest something against blank screen after booting Kubuntu 14.04? I've been searching in the Internet and only found solutions which change the modeset of the grub. This works. I no longer have blank screen BUT I can no longer hibernate. Please would you have a suggestion ? :-)
[09:59] <oquidave> Hello how it is possible that I can ping a host, but when I traceroute, I only see stars?!! https://dpaste.de/VbFY what does mean exactly? Thanks
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:44] <Guest34377> oquidave: try sudo traceroute -I 8.8.8.8
[10:45] <Guest34377> BluesKaj: hi! how are you?
[10:45] <oquidave> Guest34377: same story. could some ISPs block traceroute probes on their network? Bse I can do a traceroute on another link
[10:46] <BluesKaj> hi Guest34377 , ...do I know you by a different nick?
[10:46] <Guest34377> oquidave: i'm not an expert here, sorry
[10:48] <Guest34377> BluesKaj: no. i just wanted to greet a Kubuntu maintainer, because i use Kubuntu. so, thank you
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Guest34377,  well thanks , but I'm a Kubuntu tester , not a maintainer, but i appreciate the thought
[10:52] <Guest34377> BluesKaj: well, that's a part of maintaining, isn't it?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> oquidave,  some sites have more security against IP probes than others, basically
[13:46] <user|39806> Can i upgrade from 16.04 ubuntu to kubuntu 17.04 directly
[13:46] <user|39806> help please
[13:55] <acheronUK> user|39806: no, that sort of upgrade is not supported
[13:56] <acheronUK> you need to go 16.04 -> 16.10 - 17.04, or just do a fresh install from a 17.04 iso
[14:16] <user|39806> sure. Thank you so much for the prompt reply.
[14:16] <user|39806> cheers.
[14:20] <Irateroey> hello all
[14:20] <IrateRoey> BluesKaj, hey good morning!
[14:21] <IrateRoey> BluesKaj, so I rebooted with a livecd and tried to reinstall... I would like to remove the entire partition table from the m.2 drive on this desktop, but the crypto keeps on partition in use... how do I kill it?
[14:33] <lordievader[m]> IrateRoey: The crypto? What crypto? Luks?
[14:37] <bodhi> test kubuntu 17
[14:38] <bodhi> hello guys and girls
[14:38] <acheronUK> hi
[14:40] <bodhi> anyone of us had problems with nvidia driver?i have dual microsoft and nvidia
[14:40] <bodhi> when i change to nvidia the system crash
[14:41] <bodhi> to restart i kill t with the power buttonhe system
[14:41] <bodhi> button
[14:49] <BluesKaj> bodhi,  run, lspci | grep VGA in the konsole, then paste the out put here
[14:51] <BluesKaj> microsoft doesn't make graphics chips, it's most likely an intel /nvidia hybrid called optimus if this is a laptop
[14:52] <BluesKaj> bodhi, ^
[15:44] <viewer|15741> Hi.
[15:44] <viewer|15741> a quick help please
[15:44] <viewer|15741> i just installed kubuntu 17.04
[15:44] <BluesKaj> ask your question
[15:44] <viewer|15741> internet is not working
[15:44] <viewer|15741> though status showing as connected
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ethernet or wifi?
[15:45] <viewer|15741> tried both
[15:45] <viewer|15741> now connected to eathernet
[15:46] <BluesKaj> run sudo dhclient ,then try your bowser
[15:47] <BluesKaj> browser
[15:47] <viewer|15741> ok. let me try that out
[15:49] <viewer|15741> sorry that din worked
[15:49] <viewer|15741> any other solutions please
[15:50] <lordievader[m]> viewer|15741: Could you pastebin the output of 'ip a s' and 'ip r' please?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> can you ping google.com?
[18:26] <viewer|9787> KUbuntu wifi or eathernet has connected but, no internet
[18:26] <viewer|9787> can anyone help me to fix
[18:27] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Could you provide the info I asked for?
[18:28] <viewer|9787> can u post the query again. Am sorry, current tab got refershed
[18:30] <lordievader[m]> viewer|15741: Could you pastebin the output of 'ip a s' and 'ip r' please?
[18:31] <viewer|9787> sure.
[18:47] <viewer|9787> its in the different system
[18:47] <viewer|9787> i wont be able to pate those directly
[18:47] <viewer|9787> can u help me out, what exactly you need from that output
[18:47] <viewer|9787> ?
[18:49] <lordievader[m]> If you have an ip and if you have a default gateway.
[18:50] <viewer|9787> ok
[18:50] <viewer|9787> ?
[18:50] <lordievader[m]> Do you?
[18:53] <viewer|9787> https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhzoyoPmPJcV
[18:54] <viewer|9787> https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQ6x6yv2osR
[18:54] <viewer|9787> please have a look into these output
[18:55] <lordievader[m]> You have two different gateways for ethernet and wifi?
[18:55] <lordievader[m]> While you have no ip attached to your wifi nic.
[18:55] <viewer|9787> yes
[18:55] <viewer|9787> strange, one wifi is started working now
[18:56] <viewer|9787> and ethernet is still not working
[18:56] <viewer|9787> i tried restarting my router, then suddenly started working
[18:56] <lordievader[m]> Both do dhcp?
[18:57] <viewer|9787> yes.
[18:57] <lordievader[m]> Can you ping 192.168.0.1
[18:57] <lordievader[m]> ?
[18:59] <viewer|9787> i tried, unfortunately no response
[19:00] <lordievader[m]> Does 192.168.1.1 respond?
[19:00] <viewer|9787> yes
[19:00] <viewer|9787> it is
[19:02] <lordievader[m]> Do you get a different ip if you disconnect and reconnect the ethernet cable?
[19:03] <viewer|9787> i havnt't checked yet. let me do that now
[19:03] <viewer|9787> yes
[19:03] <viewer|9787> it says
[19:04] <viewer|9787> 10.104.107.1
[19:04] <viewer|9787> unreachable
[19:05] <lordievader[m]> What?
[19:05] <lordievader[m]> Where do you get that ip from?
[19:13] <viewer|9787> ethernet ip 192.168.0.60
[19:14] <viewer|9787> wifi 192.168.0.51
[19:15] <BluesKaj> working wifi has disbled ethernet i bet
[19:15] <viewer|9787> ok.
[19:16] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Yes, so how do you get a 10.104.something address?
[19:16] <lordievader[m]> Where do you see that?
[19:16] <viewer|9787> sorry, i was pasted those from terminal
[19:17] <viewer|9787> i disabled wifi, and trying to connect eathernet
[19:17] <viewer|9787> still its not working
[19:17] <lordievader[m]> Both now have an ip in the 192.168.0.x range? Can you now ping 192.168.0.1?
[19:18] <viewer|9787> sure
[19:18] <viewer|9787> yes am able to ping now
[19:19] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Via ethernet (alone)?
[19:19] <viewer|9787> yes.
[19:19] <viewer|9787> via eathernet
[19:19] <viewer|9787> i completely disabled the wifi device
[19:20] <BluesKaj> try a browser
[19:20] <viewer|9787> though am unable to ping
[19:20] <viewer|9787> tried
[19:21] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[19:21] <viewer|9787> sure
[19:21] <viewer|9787> done
[19:21] <viewer|9787> sucess
[19:22] <lordievader[m]> What is the result?
[19:22] <lordievader[m]> Does it respond? Do you get an unroutable? etc/
[19:22] <lordievader[m]> Ah, good.
[19:22] <lordievader[m]> What do you get when you issue 'dig A www.google.com'?
[19:23] <viewer|9787> 62 bytes from 8.8.8.8 icmp_seq=124.....
[19:23] <viewer|9787> yea, whats wrong with ma browser i donno
[19:24] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: We are getting to that, don't rush ahead ;)
[19:24] <viewer|9787> cool.
[19:24] <BluesKaj> you browser probly cached the 404
[19:24] <viewer|9787> ok.
[19:24] <BluesKaj> so it appear on next launch
[19:25] <BluesKaj> appears
[19:25] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Did you run the dig command?
[19:25] <lordievader[m]> BluesKaj: I suspect the dns resolution fails.
[19:26] <viewer|9787> its says
[19:26] <viewer|9787> connection timedout
[19:26] <BluesKaj> users should setup dns IPs in their router , so many don't ...even thsir ISP IP DNS will do
[19:27] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: As I figured, your dns setup is broken.
[19:27] <viewer|9787> ohh i see
[19:27] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Does 'dig @8.8.8.8 A www.google.com' work?
[19:29] <viewer|9787> yea it worked
[19:30] <lordievader[m]> viewer|9787: Do you have access to your router administrative panel?
[19:30] <viewer|9787> no
[19:30] <viewer|9787> :(
[19:31] <viewer|9787> please give suggestions, so that i can inform these to my network admin
[19:31] <lordievader[m]> Hmm, oh well. Open NetworkManager, edit your ethernet (and/or wifi) connection, under the IPv4 tab set address to 'automatic (address only)'.
[19:32] <lordievader[m]> Add under DNS Servers '8.8.8.8' and hit ok.
[19:32] <viewer|9787> ok.
[19:32] <lordievader[m]> Reconnect the nic and you should be good to go.
[19:32] <viewer|9787> from ma pc?
[19:33] <viewer|9787> great
[19:33] <lordievader[m]> The one with issues.
[19:33] <viewer|9787> it worked
[19:34] <viewer|9787> thanks a ton
[19:34] <viewer|9787> may i know, what went wrong
[19:34] <viewer|9787> ?
[19:35] <lordievader[m]> Most likely the ISP dns server is down or something.
[19:35] <lordievader[m]> 8.8.8.8 is Google's open DNS resolver.
[19:35] <lordievader[m]> It is pretty much allways online.
[19:35] <viewer|9787> oh,,,
[19:36] <viewer|9787> i see
[19:36] <viewer|9787> thanks a ton, and all working fine
[19:36] <viewer|9787> :)
[19:37] <BluesKaj> adding the dns nameserver to /etc/network/interfaces file works too
[19:37] <lordievader[m]> No problem.
[19:37] <viewer|9787> great!
[19:38] <BluesKaj> namserver 8.8.8.8
[19:38] <lordievader[m]> BluesKaj: Only if NM does not manage the interface ;)
[19:38] <viewer|9787> ok.
[19:39] <BluesKaj> nameserver even , lordievader[m] nm doesn't look at the interfaces file afaik , so it's like a backup dns
[19:39] <lordievader[m]> BluesKaj: You are talking about /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/network/interfaces ;(
[19:39] <lordievader[m]> ;)*
[19:40] <lordievader[m]> BluesKaj: It does, if a device is mentioned there NM does not manage it anymore.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> resolv.conf used to have that role, but that changed a few yrs ago
[19:41] <BluesKaj> anyway i get by without NM ,
[19:42] <viewer|9787> any idea, whenever i use wireless mouse and keyboard, it get stucks in between and evenytime i need to re-insert it again
[19:43] <viewer|9787> and system is also hanged ?
[19:45] <lordievader[m]> System is also hanged? As in freezes?
[19:45] <viewer|9787> yes
[19:47] <lordievader[m]> Could be a out-of-memory/swapping situation, hard to tell without any measurements.
[19:47] <viewer|9787> ok.
[19:47] <viewer|9787> i have done a fresh install
[19:48] <viewer|9787> and alloted good number for swap space while installing
[19:49] <lordievader[m]> Lots of swap space does not mean the system does not slow down if the kernel decides to swap out pages.
[19:50] <viewer|9787> yea got your point
[19:50] <viewer|9787> agree with it
[19:51] <lordievader[m]> So, grab a (h)top and check the memory usage around those times.
[19:51] <viewer|9787> ok i will do that
[19:52] <BluesKaj> debian still uses /etc/resolv.conf for dns entries, but kubuntu overwrites them to 127.0.0.53 in my case
[19:56] <lordievader[m]> NM usually starts a dnsmasq listening to that ip. I.m.o. dnsmasq is quite nice.
[20:06] <Bob99> Hi guys, I have Kubuntu 5.8.4 installed and backports added to ppa but it will not update to 5.8.6....  any suggestion?
[20:08] <angelkde1604lts> Bob99: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-bugfix-releases-frameworks-selected-app-updates-now-available-in-backports-ppa-for-zesty-and-xenial/
[20:11] <Bob99> thanks, did that and nothing is updated...
[20:15] <lordievader[m]> What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[20:16] <lordievader[m]> Bob99: ^
[20:17] <acheronUK> what is in the file? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-xenial.list
[20:17] <acheronUK> assuming it exists
[20:18] <acheronUK> or are you on zesty and meant 5.9.4?
[20:38] <Bob99> 16.04
[20:39] <Bob99> stby I'll check
[20:46] <Bob99> https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh7NRzr6Lyu1
[20:57] <acheronUK> Bob99: and the result of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[20:58] <Bob99> Nothing...
[20:59] <Bob99> I'm thinking about reinstalling....
[21:01] <acheronUK> Bob99: just tested in a VM, and the package upgrades are there for me. odd
[21:01] <Bob99> it's weird...
[21:02] <acheronUK> no key errors when updating the sources with apt-get update?
[21:03] <acheronUK> does it show that ppa in the fetched urls?
[21:06] <Bob99> when I add the ppa, I get this: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[21:07] <Bob99> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwJDZN059UK
[21:08] <acheronUK> that's not a problem
[21:09] <Bob99> https://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8prW36jlCJ
[21:09] <acheronUK> Bob99: 'plamsashell -v' give what?
[21:10] <acheronUK> Bob99: eek!
[21:10] <Bob99> command not found
[21:10] <acheronUK> that would make it not be able to update things!
[21:11] <acheronUK> I mistyped :P
[21:11] <acheronUK> but not the issue by the looks of that
[21:11] <Bob99> when I do plasmashell --version I get 5.8.4
[21:14] <acheronUK> what ownerships and permissions are on /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ ?
[21:16] <Bob99> I just tried 'SU' and had "su: Authentication failure".... that's weird.... the sudo works....
[21:17] <acheronUK> very odd
[21:20] <Bob99> I really think I should reinstall...
[21:21] <Bob99> with the SU command, it's the same password as SUDO?
[21:22] <valorie> please don't use SU
[21:22] <valorie> that's root, rather than sudo
[21:22] <valorie> !sudo
[21:23] <valorie> SU can be very dangerous, and wreck permissions in the $HOME if used wrongly
[21:25] <Bob99> But it should be the same password?
[21:25] <acheronUK> should not be able to su by default in ubuntu anyway
[21:25] <acheronUK> nope. it's not
[21:27] <valorie> I would try that fixsudo page instructions before re-installing, Bob99
[21:27] <valorie> but that's just me
[21:29] <acheronUK> Bob99: maybe 'sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*'
[21:29] <acheronUK> if the content of that folder have got borked
[21:29] <Bob99> just remove the file....
[21:31] <acheronUK> also, although it should not make a difference, remove the multiple disabled line from your kubuntu-ppa-backports-xenial.list
[21:32] <Bob99> ok stby
[21:34] <acheronUK> remove the content of that folder, but not the folder, yes
[21:43] <Bob99> Ok, done but I do not know if it work or not.
[21:45] <Bob99> Thanks guys, I have to go, I'll figure it out later on.  Thank you for all the good advices.
[21:46] <Bob99> thx acheronUK
[21:46] <acheronUK> okaaaaaaay
[22:59] <metabolic> hi