[02:28] <liuxg> I am now trying install libqofono-dev on my 16.04 desktop, however, I get the error like "
[02:28] <liuxg> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:28] <liuxg>  libqofono-dev : Depends: libqofono-qt5-0 (= 0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1) but 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:28] <liuxg> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.“  How can I resolve this issue.
[02:28] <liuxg> The log is here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24650416/
[02:31] <kenvandine> liuxg, apt-cache policy libqofono-qt5-0
[02:31] <liuxg> liuxg@liuxg:~$ apt-cache policy libqofono-qt5-0
[02:31] <liuxg> libqofono-qt5-0:
[02:31] <liuxg>   Installed: 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1
[02:31] <liuxg>   Candidate: 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1
[02:31] <liuxg>   Version table:
[02:31] <liuxg>  *** 0.90+16.04.20160901-0ubuntu1 100
[02:31] <liuxg>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:31] <liuxg>      0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1 500
[02:31] <liuxg>         500 http://mirrors.aliyun.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
[02:32] <kenvandine> so you have a local build of that maybe?
[02:32] <liuxg> kenvandine thanks. the installation log is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24650416/
[02:32] <liuxg> kenvandine no, I do not have the a local copy of it. I think i used to install the phone SDK.
[02:33] <liuxg> kenvandine do you mean I need to remove it?
[02:33] <kenvandine> either that or there's something wrong with your mirror
[02:33] <kenvandine> yeah
[02:33] <kenvandine> remove that then it'll be fine
[02:33] <liuxg> kenvandine OK. I will have a try. I will switch a mirror. thanks
[02:34] <jamesh> the 0.90 release says it isn't from any of your registered repositories
[02:35] <kenvandine> hey jamesh
[02:35] <jamesh> hi kenvandine
[02:35] <liuxg> jamesh, then how can I correct the issue here?
[02:35] <jamesh> liuxg: by any chance did you have the stable-phone-overlay PPA installed, and then remove it?
[02:35] <kenvandine> liuxg, just remove libqofono-qt5-0
[02:35] <kenvandine> that's what i was thinking
[02:36] <kenvandine> but disabled now
[02:36] <DalekSec> Or apt-get install libqofono-qt5-0/xenial
[02:36] <kenvandine> i think the ubuntu sdk enabled that
[02:36] <jamesh> liuxg: "apt install libqofono-qt5-0=0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1" might let you proceed
[02:36] <jamesh> to downgrade that package
[02:36] <liuxg> jamesh, yes, I have the stable-phone-overlay ppa installed. so, it is good to remove it?
[02:37] <kenvandine> the annoying thing is ppa-purge doesn't work once you remove the ppa
[02:37] <jamesh> liuxg: it sounds like it has already been disabled: if it was active, I'd expect to see it mentioned in the "apt policy" output
[02:37] <kenvandine> i wish ppa-purge could clean up packages not from a currently enabled repository
[02:37] <DalekSec> apt list | grep ed,loc  could also see what else is local only.
[02:38] <liuxg> kenvandine I will do the purge as well, and see how it works :)
[02:39] <kenvandine> the purge won't work since the ppa is disabled already
[02:39] <kenvandine> that's what i find annoying about ppa-purge
[02:41] <liuxg> kenvandine I am trying to swith to the archive.ubuntu.com though it is slow here :)
[02:41] <kenvandine> or use your local mirror, depending on your country
[02:41] <jamesh> liuxg: I don't think your problem is about using a mirror of archive.ubuntu.com
[02:41] <kenvandine> the problem is from the ppa
[02:42] <liuxg> jamesh, so, I need to remove the stable-phone overlay ppa?
[02:42] <kenvandine> liuxg, looks like you already disabled that ppa
[02:42] <kenvandine> but you have packages installed from it
[02:42] <jamesh> liuxg: it sounds like you've already removed or disabled that PPA as a source.  But you've got packages from the PPA installed on your system
[02:43] <jamesh> which are newer than what you find in vanilla xenial
[02:45] <liuxg> jamesh, yes, it was disabled. how can I remove it?
[02:46] <kenvandine> liuxg, best bet is to re-enable the ppa then use ppa-purge to remove it
[02:46] <kenvandine> imo
[02:47] <liuxg> kenvandine  jamesh in fact, jamesh's command apt install libqofono-qt5-0=0.82+16.04.20160127-0ubuntu1 works :)
[02:47] <kenvandine> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay
[02:47] <kenvandine> after adding it again
[02:47] <kenvandine> liuxg, i mean in general, not just because of this package
[02:48] <kenvandine> i'm sure you have other packages with the same issue, you just haven't noticed yet
[02:48] <liuxg> kenvandine thanks. I will do that for sure.
[02:48] <kenvandine> clean up all the cruft :)
[02:48] <liuxg> kenvandine, yes, I think it is the trouble maker :)
[05:56] <oSoMoN> good Thursday everyone!
[07:08] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[07:09] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, Trevinho
[07:09] <Trevinho> hi didrocks
[07:09] <Trevinho> ça va?
[07:10] <didrocks> ça va bien, et toi ? :)
[07:12] <andyrock> morning
[07:12] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[07:16] <duflu> Ohayogogozaimasu, bonjour
[07:16] <duflu> Erm, Ohayogozaimasu
[07:17] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, didrocks, andyrock. Afternoon Trevinho
[07:19] <didrocks> Irassahaimasu
[07:19] <didrocks> or rather Irassahaimasssssssssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
[07:19] <didrocks> :)
[07:19]  * didrocks has heard that so many times with longer or shorter forms :p
[07:20] <duflu> And then people get lazy: maaasss. Maaaas
[08:01] <willcooke> change of plan, I'm here
[08:01] <willcooke> morning all
[08:03] <didrocks> good morning willcooke!
[08:05] <Laney> moin
[08:05] <Laney> just been up to the allotment
[08:06] <Laney> was trying to get there before it gets too hot to water
[08:06] <Laney> not sure I managed that /o\
[08:06] <oSoMoN> morning willcooke
[08:07] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:07] <didrocks> it's already 23°C here
[08:08] <Laney> /o\
[08:08] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:08] <Laney> you good?
[08:13] <didrocks> I'm great! Just wondering if I will be able to run today, I think it's a no :) you?
[08:13] <Laney> yeah, very good!
[08:14] <Laney> was quite nice to go up there early
[08:18] <didrocks> yeah, I imagine ;)
[08:18] <Laney> the actual watering took 45 minutes
[08:19] <Laney> we have more stuff than I thought
[08:19] <willcooke> Laney, do you have a tap on site?  Or a big butt. hurr hurr
[08:20] <Laney> yeah, both
[08:20] <willcooke> nice
[08:20] <Laney> hose doesn't reach all the way though
[08:20] <willcooke> Aldi have a deal on hose pipes atm
[08:20] <Laney> haha
[08:20] <willcooke> :)
[08:20] <Laney> sponsored content
[08:21] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:21] <seb128> hey didrocks Laney willcooke
[08:21] <Laney> might get a long reel though
[08:21] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:21] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:21] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:21] <seb128> willcooke, didn't you say you were off until lunch today?
[08:21] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:21] <Laney> currently have to carefully waggle it around our neighbour's veg
[08:21] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:21] <willcooke> seb128, yeah, I got stood up
[08:21] <Laney> you good?
[08:21] <Laney> unreliable golf buddy?
[08:21] <willcooke> indeed
[08:21] <willcooke> :)
[08:22] <willcooke> and it's a reallllly nice day
[08:22] <seb128> yeah, played tennis yesterday in the end of afternoon, slept well, today is sunny
[08:22] <seb128> and is an holiday (which I split on today/tomorrow, taking hours as needed)
[08:22]  * duflu considers moving there. Wherever there is
[08:24] <Laney> sounds like most of europe atm :-)
[08:59] <duflu> koza: Did your crash in bluez-5.45 come with a readable stack trace?
[09:02] <koza> duflu, yes
[09:02] <duflu> koza: Can you share it (in case it's familiar)?
[09:03] <koza> duflu, sure, looking for it now
[09:05] <koza> duflu, http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=149148313524321&w=2
[09:05] <koza> duflu, +follow next-in-thread as well
[10:00] <duflu> koza: I could not find anything similar
[10:00] <duflu> But now, domestic duties
[11:04]  * Trevinho heads to the pool party... Catch you tomorrow (or later).
[11:04] <willcooke> see ya Trevinho
[11:06] <didrocks> Trevinho: does you really have to mention this to us? :p
[11:06]  * didrocks is eager to go to a swimming pool now
[11:14] <oSoMoN> bah, pool parties are overrated
[13:18] <Trevinho> I agree... But that's what we've here...
[13:18] <Trevinho> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9fO5o1xN/20170525_211619.jpg
[13:20] <didrocks> sad life :)
[14:55]  * willcooke relocates to the garden
[15:17] <willcooke> ha, Trello knows to automatically format "sudo foo bar baz" as monospace
[15:17] <Laney> win
[15:27] <kenvandine> lol
[15:27] <kenvandine> awesome
[15:36] <didrocks> I hope it's using ubuntu monospace or any freeda ligature coding one :)
[16:13] <jbicha> Laney: should we go ahead and merge LP: #1680008 ?
[16:14] <Laney> If you want
[16:15] <Laney> I didn't look at the actual change
[16:15] <Laney> So don't take that as me reviewing it
[16:15] <Laney> changing the order around is okay though
[16:24]  * oSoMoN 🠚 chiropractor
[16:41] <jbicha> willcooke: the remaining problem with LP: #1672424 is that gnome-software got stuck in phased-updates so it's not showing up in Software Updater (the only things that respects phasing)
[16:41] <jbicha> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[16:42] <willcooke> jbicha, is this related to my card on general update notifications?
[16:42] <jbicha> we could ask bdmurray to phase it to 100% if we think the fixed issues are more important
[16:42] <jbicha> willcooke: yes, I'm replying here to your recent comment on trello
[16:43] <willcooke> jbicha, gotya.  So yeah, I can't put my finger on it, but it just "feels" like something isn't quite right with the notifier.
[16:43] <willcooke> Maybe it was from where security updates got applied automatically, and I'm just used to it popping up more
[16:44] <willcooke> or, mayyyyybe there is a little bug hidden away that we dont see because we're updating manually all the time
[16:44] <Laney> You could install 16.04.2 in a VM and see if you get notified
[16:44] <jbicha> willcooke: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[16:44] <willcooke> jbicha, *cough* 16.04 still
[16:44] <willcooke> my test machine has 17.10 though
[16:45] <willcooke> Laney, yeah, that's a good plan.  I'll set up one and just leave it running for a few weeks
[16:46] <jbicha> Laney: did you have something specific you wanted from me for the GNOME 3.26 trello card?
[16:47] <Laney> You might have an opinion
[16:47] <Laney> You might know something that weighs in one direction or another
[16:48] <jbicha> many apps should be pretty safe to update
[16:49] <jbicha> it's ones like gnome-shell, mutter, gnome-control-center, gnome-settings-daemon that could be trickier if they make changes that are more difficult for what we want to ship
[17:08] <jbicha> oh, we talked earlier about upgrades from 16.04 to 17.04 after 16.10 is EOL, see LP: #1692092
[19:35] <willcooke> night all
[22:54] <xnox> jbicha, but upgrade manager should know and handle this situation by upgrading people to 16.10 via old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:55] <jbicha> xnox: talk to bdmurray, but I think the intent is that the updates skip 16.10 completely!
[22:55] <xnox> intersting =) new stuff to me.
[22:56] <xnox> technically we should support that, cause we do support lts-to-lts. but mileage may vary.