| dzho | rick_h: a pacifica hybrid?! | 02:19 |
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| dzho | that's a rare beast from what I can gather | 02:20 |
| rick_h | dzho: yea, wife had to wait a few months for it | 02:20 |
| rick_h | was delayed a bit | 02:20 |
| dzho | so, not to sound like I'm starting a survey, but how is that working out? | 02:20 |
| rick_h | was supposed to be in at the start of march, ended up end of april | 02:20 |
| * dzho has a TDI we're in the process of getting rid of | 02:20 | |
| rick_h | dzho: really nice. she loves it. Big vehicle that drives like a small one. | 02:20 |
| dzho | I got a Honda Fit to tide me over. | 02:20 |
| rick_h | dzho: and the plugin bit works well. charge it each night, 2 hrs by the book | 02:21 |
| dzho | but I'd once said that if they made a hybrid minivan I'd get one (more or less) | 02:21 |
| rick_h | dzho: and getting 30ish miles a day on that end | 02:21 |
| rick_h | dzho: yea, talk about the most practical of practical vehicles | 02:21 |
| dzho | our commutes are <20 miles round trip | 02:21 |
| rick_h | dzho: and with us having the little one we're not likely to miss folding down the middle seats any time | 02:21 |
| dzho | heh | 02:21 |
| dzho | ours is a teenager soon | 02:21 |
| rick_h | dzho: yea, and it's peppy-enough and such | 02:21 |
| dzho | :( :) | 02:21 |
| rick_h | hah | 02:22 |
| dzho | I feel like we're a half-generation out of step | 02:22 |
| rick_h | basically think it's averaging out around 40mpg, filled the tank up for the second time (first one taking it home) after 3.5ish weeks | 02:22 |
| dzho | we needed full day kindergarten | 02:22 |
| rick_h | hah | 02:22 |
| rick_h | yea, we did that | 02:22 |
| dzho | the two best school districts in our area have just started talking about full day K | 02:22 |
| rick_h | ah, yea that would have been nuts to only have 1/2 days | 02:23 |
| rick_h | when he's got 1/2 days of school (this friday) it's batty | 02:23 |
| dzho | we had to switch daycare because buses would only deliver to daycare in district | 02:23 |
| dzho | and we were going to a more diverse place over the district line | 02:23 |
| dzho | otherwise it would have been a double commute, yeah. | 02:24 |
| dzho | wow 40mpg in a *minivan* that's nuts | 02:24 |
| dzho | the Fit is moderately thrifty but it has a dinky fuel tank too | 02:24 |
| rick_h | yea, the only "bummer" is that they crapped out the nice things on there | 02:24 |
| dzho | after the diesel I'm feeling like "hey what do you mean I'm already at half a tank"? | 02:25 |
| rick_h | so the top of the line hybrid doesn't get some of the things on the top of the line non-hybrid, can't even pay for them | 02:25 |
| dzho | huh | 02:25 |
| * dzho is more bare bones anyway | 02:25 | |
| rick_h | like power side mirrors, sunroof | 02:25 |
| dzho | power mirrors are nice | 02:25 |
| dzho | sunroof meh, we've had them and not | 02:25 |
| rick_h | well, we park in the garage so I get cranky every time I have to get out to push in the passenger side mirror | 02:25 |
| dzho | d'oh | 02:25 |
| rick_h | per user memory seating is the other thing I wanted | 02:25 |
| dzho | man, I tell you, the things they make "options" on some cars drive me nuts. | 02:26 |
| rick_h | my truck has it and nice so that it's one button to switch drivers | 02:26 |
| rick_h | makes it a LOT easier to share a vehicle | 02:26 |
| dzho | I'd just rather get mechanical seats, not electric adjust. | 02:26 |
| rick_h | and part of the van is I drive my truck around less (well rules of getting the van) | 02:26 |
| dzho | we have electric adjust on our other vehicle but no memory. | 02:26 |
| dzho | it is so freaking slow. | 02:26 |
| rick_h | right, but with 8 way electric adjust if you are different you have to flip 500 things to get right | 02:26 |
| rick_h | so I just promise to only move it forward/backward and leave the rest and oh well | 02:27 |
| dzho | it's not a moon shot | 02:27 |
| rick_h | lol | 02:27 |
| rick_h | it's enough to get me into cranky old man mode | 02:27 |
| dzho | haha | 02:27 |
| rick_h | "take my money dammit!" | 02:27 |
| rick_h | but the after the delays got over with my wife's forgiven them and loves it | 02:27 |
| dzho | what annoys me is when they made the "you left your key in" or the "you left your lights on" warning beeps optional | 02:27 |
| dzho | I'm like, really? You want someone to pay extra for *that*? | 02:28 |
| rick_h | hah | 02:28 |
| dzho | real innovative, there. | 02:28 |
| dzho | well, I'm glad it's working out for you, I hope others follow suit. | 02:28 |
| dzho | short haul high torque things like that just seem like such a natural. | 02:28 |
| rick_h | yea, my wife laughs she gets to be hybrid snooty now, makes up for her diesel snooty earlier :) | 02:29 |
| rick_h | yea, just have to see if the tech keeps up over time at all | 02:29 |
| dzho | hypermiling the minivan | 02:29 |
| rick_h | how the batteries will hold up in the winter, but looks like it's something like $2-3 of electicity to fill up for 30 miles | 02:29 |
| rick_h | I will say, if you go that route dte has a special pricing plan for plugin vehicles | 02:30 |
| rick_h | but the charger has to be on it's own with its own meter | 02:30 |
| rick_h | which I didn't know before I had my stuff installed | 02:30 |
| * dzho is in NY | 02:30 | |
| dzho | but thanks anyway :-) | 02:30 |
| rick_h | so now it's a question of how much more it'd cost me to redo the charger vs the electical savings | 02:30 |
| rick_h | hah, ok, well lessons stands about chatting with the electrical authorities up front | 02:31 |
| * rick_h got bit by the JFDI principle | 02:31 | |
| dzho | library/townhall at the end of our street has a charging station, which is kind of cool | 02:31 |
| dzho | the other huge thing is that state legislature finally approved car "sharing" services for upstate (eg, for non NYC, where there was already a deal) | 02:32 |
| dzho | so I think our transport situation is going to start getting more interesting | 02:32 |
| rick_h | interesting | 02:32 |
| rick_h | I checked out the plugshare app which is cool | 02:32 |
| dzho | car free and single-vehicle households might end up to be more of a thing | 02:32 |
| rick_h | but honestly not that often we go somewhere to charge vs just each night at home | 02:33 |
| rick_h | yea, nice idea. would be cool | 02:33 |
| dzho | my long distance benchmark is the 90 mile one way to sisters-in-law | 02:33 |
| dzho | if real-world range on electrics gets to that I might be in, at least on the 2nd car (no car seats any more so our minivan days might be done) | 02:34 |
| rick_h | yea, honestly the mini-van was because my wife hates driving large vehicles | 02:35 |
| dzho | OTOH hybrid minivan plus electric car would make it very snooty | 02:35 |
| rick_h | but we do skiing, camping, soccer, fishing, etc | 02:35 |
| dzho | oh right | 02:35 |
| rick_h | so it drives like her taurus, but has enough room inside for all the stuff | 02:35 |
| rick_h | plus the dogs | 02:35 |
| rick_h | I asked her to look into them after she kept getting smaller and smaller SUVs | 02:35 |
| dzho | my brother and SIL have an aversion to minivans which I don't understand so they have some big SUV that really doesn't have that much room | 02:36 |
| rick_h | well, not getting but test driving | 02:36 |
| * dzho likes a minivan | 02:36 | |
| rick_h | yea, it's a ton more comfy than an escape, or the like | 02:36 |
| rick_h | and the pacifica doesn't look like crap imo | 02:36 |
| dzho | yeah | 02:36 |
| dzho | but for some people it's just the idea | 02:36 |
| rick_h | but then again I get in my 2500 and start up the diesel so I have balance in life :) | 02:36 |
| dzho | and I'm like, you have 2 dogs and 2 kids, get over it already. | 02:36 |
| rick_h | lol | 02:36 |
| dzho | haha | 02:37 |
| dzho | no emissions cheating on that, yet, eh? | 02:37 |
| rick_h | no emissions requirement :) https://goo.gl/photos/RgxDwhtcBSvezYYV8 | 02:37 |
| dzho | just don't show me anything that has you rolling coal, ok? | 02:40 |
| dzho | just sayin' | 02:40 |
| rick_h | hah no, I'm stock | 02:40 |
| rick_h | no desire to blow black smoke. I like to take that setup into the woods too much | 02:40 |
| rick_h | hauling of the toys https://goo.gl/photos/LZLNX6hr9Qf8QDZdA | 02:41 |
| rick_h | and hiding in the VA mountains https://goo.gl/photos/9jNFHGADLmNGx7ff8 | 02:41 |
| rick_h | hah and south dakota https://goo.gl/photos/uuwkVE6SN9cu8Gk48 good trip that one | 02:42 |
| rick_h | anyone, time to move laundry check ya later dzho | 02:43 |
| dzho | see ya! | 02:44 |
| notlikethesoup | morning | 11:35 |
| rick_h | Ugh does it have to be? | 11:37 |
| notlikethesoup | if you sleep for another 5 hours, no | 11:39 |
| rick_h | I'm liking this plan of yours | 11:40 |
| rick_h | But meetings in an hour...boooo | 11:40 |
| cmaloney | morning | 11:41 |
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