[00:01] <unopesvr> hi
[00:02] <psychoticwarrior> so i upgraded ubuntuy linux realtek 8821AE but cant update kali
[00:03] <Jordan_U> !kali | psychoticwarrior
[00:04] <bazhang> #kali-linux <-- psychoticwarrior
[00:08] <psychoticwarrior> right on guys. got it!
[00:20] <jnewt_> i am trying to follow an oldish (2014) tutorial to get my scanner running (http://virantha.com/2014/03/17/one-touch-scanning-with-fujitsu-scansnap-in-linux/).
[00:21] <jnewt_> i managed to make it to the point where i need to do initctl reload-configuration, but i get a failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart:connection refused
[00:24] <nacc> jnewt_: what version of ubuntu?
[00:25] <jnewt_> 16.04 LTS
[00:25] <nacc> !info scanbd xenial
[00:25] <nacc> jnewt_: don't build from source what you don't need to :)
[00:26] <nacc> jnewt_: and whatever you did try to build told you to use upstart, which only applies to 14.04
[00:26] <jnewt_> something up with the systemd, initctl stuff, i don't really understand the differences
[00:26] <jnewt_> do i need to undo what i've done somehow?
[00:26] <nacc> jnewt_: just install the pacakge and it has a systemd service
[00:27] <nacc> jnewt_: the issue witht hat guide is it was written for ubuntu only up to 14.10
[00:27] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: Don't try to use guides from years ago, and avoid building from source whenever possible.
[00:27] <nacc> jnewt_: and it's absolutely wrong for anything newer
[00:27] <nacc> jnewt_: i am not sure what all was done, but i'd try to undo as much of it as you can and then just instal the package
[00:28] <nacc> jnewt_: if i had to guess, it's mostly stuff in /usr/local from the make install and then some config locally
[00:28] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: I would personally recommend undoing every step from that guide. If you'd like help figuring out how to undo it just ask and we can give more detailed help.
[00:28] <nacc> jnewt_: and fwiw, that tutorial is only for one-touch scanning. it should work with, e.g., simple scan, without it (if it's going to work with scanbd)
[00:29] <nacc> jnewt_: that is to say, that tutorial won't make a non-working scanner work.
[00:30] <jnewt_> i just want my scanner to work, and that was the only tutorial i found for my scanner and ubuntu.  i still can't find one for newer linux
[00:31] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: Did you try using simple-scan before following any other guides?
[00:31] <jnewt_> so scanbd is just for the button?
[00:32] <jnewt_> i don't know what simple-scan is, 1 min
[00:32] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: It's the default scanning app that comes with Ubuntu.
[00:34] <jnewt_> Jordan_U: found it, hit scan, says failed to scan error communicating with scanner
[00:35] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: Had you tried this before following any other guides?
[00:35] <jnewt_> no, 1st thing i did was look for a guide.  apparently i chose the wrong one
[00:37] <Jordan_U> jnewt_: There is a chance that your scanner would have worked out of the box before following that guide, but honestly I would guess that it wouldn't have worked before the guide either. Lets undo what you've done following that guide anyway though, as it's something we need to do eventually anyway.
[00:41] <jnewt_> ok
[00:46] <Kelsier_>  /msg alis LIST *game*
[01:09] <coffeeguy> hi i'm getting a docbook-xsl error, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)
[01:10] <coffeeguy> it says docbook-xsl is half installed and can't configure
[01:12] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: try sudo apt-get install -f
[01:13] <coffeeguy> same error
[01:13] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: post the error to pastebin
[01:14] <coffeeguy> https://pastebin.com/6sZsYu5i
[01:16] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: what version of ubuntu?
[01:16] <coffeeguy> 16.04
[01:16] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: tried removing it and reinstalling?
[01:16] <coffeeguy> i'll try
[01:17] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: sudo apt-get remove --purge docbook-xsl ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get install docbook-xsl
[01:17] <coffeeguy> ok
[01:19] <coffeeguy> after all that same error
[01:21] <leftyfb> i'm not sure, it installs fine for me
[01:21] <coffeeguy> won't let me upgrade now heh i should not have tried to install kftpgrabber
[01:22] <coffeeguy> hmm it won't let me install sabnzbdplus
[01:22] <coffeeguy> er upgrade
[01:23] <coffeeguy> wait a minute i might have their sabnzbdplus from their ppa and software center
[01:30] <OneM_Industries> So. For some reason, Ubuntu is refusing to play/read dvds.
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> !dvd | OneM_Industries
[01:31] <OneM_Industries> I've already installed those.
[01:32] <OneM_Industries> I've had those installed for a couple of years, but recently it stopped working.
[01:32] <totL> OneM_Industries, your drive is fine?
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> Yep. CDs still work, and it sees the drive, just nothing on the drive.
[01:34] <totL> OneM_Industries, DVd drives may play Cd but not DVD
[01:34] <totL> OneM_Industries, have a terminal?
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[01:35] <OneM_Industries> Odd thing is, in the past, it worked fine. Sometime recently it stopped, cause it's not playing tonight's Netflix DVD. >.<
[01:35] <totL> OneM_Industries, you may try "<put your sudo stuff ahead> tail -f /var/log/messages" and insert the DVD and see what it says
[01:36] <totL> OneM_Industries, it seems new content: the DVD may also be in a "recent format" that your drivers do not recognize
[01:37] <OneM_Industries> Ah, hm.
[01:39] <OneM_Industries> tail: cannot open ‘/var/log/messages’ for reading: No such file or directory
[01:39] <totL> OneM_Industries, can you mount it as data dvd - and just run the VOB files?
[01:39] <totL> no /var/log/messages? bugger
[01:39] <totL> me
[01:40] <totL> lol
[01:40] <OneM_Industries> Sorry.
[01:42] <totL> OneM_Industries, maybe: "dmesg > file", insert DVD, see last lines of file
[01:43] <t0mas> can someone please help, I am getting errors for apport when using apt-get or dpkg
[01:44] <OneM_Industries> Hunh. Nothing mentioning the DVD drive...
[01:44] <OneM_Industries> Let me check something, hang on.
[01:44] <t0mas> I've looked everywhere and I can't find any info
[01:44] <t0mas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24650059/
[01:45] <OneM_Industries> Ok, so it absolutely does work with other DVDs.
[01:45] <OneM_Industries> Hunh.
[01:45] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, it's probably too new.
[01:45] <totL> oh...
[01:46] <totL> OneM_Industries, tried to mount that as data? or it will not even mount?
[01:46] <OneM_Industries> It mounts, but it shows up as totally blank.
[01:47] <OneM_Industries> (The new disc. The older disc works fine.)
[01:47] <totL> thats bad
[01:47] <Bashing-om> t0mas: "  reinstall it before attempting a removal " ... have you ' sudo apt install --reinstall apport ' ? Then try and remove it .
[01:48] <totL> OneM_Industries, the media may also have problem - can be logical or physical
[01:48] <OneM_Industries> Eeh, it works on the old windows laptop.
[01:48] <t0mas> wow i feel dumb
[01:48] <totL> bye
[01:50] <lilym> OKay so in an old project I would do `py.test --doctest-modules` and I could use `# doctest: +ELLIPSIS` but now that doesn't work. What's up with that?
[01:53] <lilym> this is horribly annoying and inconsistent; i've seen this pop up differently on various operating systems/laptops i've had
[01:56] <lilym> it doesn't matter if i add  doctest_optionflags = ELLIPSIS or not
[01:56] <lilym> <to pytest.ini>
[01:56] <winhelp> hi guys I need help to install windows from ubuntu
[01:56] <winhelp> I cant get winusb to work on my ubuntu 17.04
[01:56] <lilym> oh whoah i'm in the wrong room
[01:57] <winhelp> some help would be nice.
[01:59] <winhelp> no one around?
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> !winusb | winhelp
[02:00] <winhelp> it does not work.\
[02:00] <leftyfb> winhelp: please read the above post from ubottu
[02:00] <winhelp> I know is there any tool that ubuntu support to burn iso to usb for windows?
[02:01] <leftyfb> winhelp: I have used winub before without issue. Not sure why it's not working for you.
[02:02] <winhelp> cant get working on 17.94
[02:02] <winhelp> cant get working on 17.04
[02:02] <leftyfb> winhelp: are you using the official Windows 10 iso from microsoft.com?
[02:02] <winhelp> yes
[02:04] <KILIC> Hi
[02:07] <KILIC> chat
[02:07] <winhelp> leftyfb
[02:07] <winhelp> can we talk in pm
[02:07] <winhelp> ?
[02:07] <leftyfb> no
[02:07] <winhelp> I get this error
[02:07] <winhelp> Installation failed ! Exit code: 256 Log: Formatting device... Error: Partition(s) on /dev/sdb are being used.
[02:07] <KILIC> are you hacker?
[02:08] <leftyfb> KILIC: do you need help with ubuntu?
[02:08] <winhelp> some help would be nice
[02:08] <leftyfb> winhelp: try: sudo umount /media/$USER/*
[02:08] <leftyfb> then try winusb
[02:34] <psychoticwarrior> always try umount <dev mount>
[02:34] <psychoticwarrior> try to see if it works
[02:35] <psychoticwarrior> or mount </dev/> in another OS
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> !who | psychoticwarrior
[02:36] <psychoticwarrior> leftyfb
[02:36] <leftyfb> ?
[02:36] <IntelCore> Hi - installed 16.04 on 14.04 -- the upgrade, and ccsm, gnome is not there.
[02:36] <psychoticwarrior> were you trying to unmount something
[02:37] <psychoticwarrior> winhelp i mean
[02:38] <IntelCore> - I had gnome so that on log-on there was a dot to click that let me choose desktop
[02:39] <IntelCore> and i put my pass, and got the one selected
[02:39] <IntelCore> Is this re-fixable?
[02:41] <psychoticwarrior> what are you trying to fix specifically?
[02:41] <IntelCore> I think it broke Gnome
[02:42] <psychoticwarrior> oh shit that sucks
[02:42] <IntelCore> had ccsm - cube.. and gnome menu, both not there
[02:43] <IntelCore> I mean, I think ccsm is, but dunno
[02:43] <leftyfb> IntelCore: sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback gnome-panel
[02:44] <IntelCore> Now the gnome... is it now native in 16.04  ?
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: no, 18.04
[02:44] <IntelCore> oo.
[02:44] <IntelCore> ty on panel
[02:46] <IntelCore> Some files - no longer needed
[02:47] <IntelCore> Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[02:48] <Bashing-om> IntelCore: That is OK for now , continue on .
[02:48] <IntelCore> lol, all I did was to run the upgrade on what I thought was updated 14.04
[02:49] <IntelCore> 522 delete, and 2400's file upgrade
[02:50] <IntelCore> you bash?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> IntelCore: ^ UnGood :(
[02:51] <IntelCore> well.. it's just the stiff install...
[02:53] <IntelCore> oo.OO  I got a wobbly
[02:54] <IntelCore> hmm.. no spin/cube now
[02:55] <IntelCore> Also.. how do I restart?
[02:56] <IntelCore> I see "shutdown" only
[02:56] <gnome_usr> IntelCore have you tried command line: sudo reboot?
[02:57] <IntelCore> << excuse a noob
[02:57] <IntelCore> noob isnt terminal -ized
[02:58] <IntelCore> lol
[02:59] <IntelCore> oic - shutdown may give the restart option..
[03:00] <gnome_usr> oh. No prob. It's actually prettty easy. Just type sudo then single space and type reboot. Then input your password when it asks and i will soon restart for you.
[03:00] <gnome_usr> it*
[03:00] <IntelCore> Yeah gotcha
[03:01] <IntelCore> Had menu list on left of my programs -- that still there?
[03:01] <IntelCore> And, now windows fill screen..
[03:02] <Rahul_Rawat_> Anybody having a idea or a link about INTERRUPT handling in kernel 3.x or 4.x
[03:06] <IntelCore> Rescheduling Interrupts on the ubuntu community web pages, search.. it says on 4.3
[03:06] <IntelCore> And a link says Red-Hat
[03:07] <IntelCore> just a gogl
[03:09] <GabrielC> yo, when i hit "sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel/ toutatis-updates main" " then update, i get GPG key missing
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> !enter | IntelCore
[03:13] <IntelCore> GabrielC - I read by google searched and found the keys can be changed
[03:14] <GabrielC> alright, thanks for digging, what should i do?
[03:14] <GabrielC> IntelCore%^
[03:14] <IntelCore> Is you going to the right repo ?
[03:14] <GabrielC> actually I'm just trying to install icecat
[03:15] <GabrielC> +maintaining
[03:15] <IntelCore> And it did not have it in apt-get?
[03:16] <GabrielC> nah, you'll have to add trisquel repos for it to apt-get
[03:16] <GabrielC> brb
[03:17] <IntelCore> just down it from website
[03:17] <gnome_usr> This might be relevant Gabriel: http://howtoistart.com/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys-in-ubuntu-mint-debian
[03:18] <IntelCore> It looks interesting
[03:20] <GabrielC> backl
[03:20] <IntelCore> Official releases of IceCat are available from ftp.gnu.org
[03:21] <GabrielC> IntelCore
[03:21] <GabrielC> https://www.linuxhelp.com/how-to-install-icecat-in-ubuntu/
[03:21] <GabrielC> gnome_usr: i don't really trust webupd8 :p
[03:23] <victorqueiroz> Why OS X font rendering is so god?
[03:23] <GabrielC> why i never wondered how <victorqueiroz>
[03:24] <victorqueiroz> Is Ubuntu fontconfig really patched to look better?
[03:27] <IntelCore> https://www.gnu.org/prep/ftp.html
[03:32] <Nilesh_> which package gives lua.so?
[03:35] <GabrielC> what is lua.so
[03:35] <Nilesh_> lua library
[03:36] <GabrielC> hold on :)
[03:36] <GabrielC> have you tried dat package manager?
[03:38] <IntelCore> gnu has an Os??
[03:39] <IntelCore> never seen gnu with all in an OS
[03:40] <graphitemaster> gnu's hurd is great, the man page for audio suggests you buy a cd player to listen to music
[03:40] <graphitemaster> because hurd still does not support audio
[03:40] <IntelCore> oh
[03:41] <IntelCore> like.. ffmpegged 14.04ubuntu - 3rd party
[03:41] <GabrielC> Nilesh_, sorry i tried DDG and Synaptic Package Manager.. something came up, g2g
[03:42] <latemus> hey
[03:42] <IntelCore> :)
[03:43] <Calif> Hello, I seem to have an issue getting my 16.04 install to take a static gateway in the interfaces file
[03:43] <Nilesh_> 15GabrielC: its ok
[03:43] <Nilesh_> I was looking for devl libraries
[03:44] <Calif> I can see it configured in the enp3s0 interface stanza but it doesnt' seem to get picked up on a route -n
[03:44] <Calif> tried rebooting, and disabled network manager
[03:44] <Calif> other ip info seems to populate ok
[03:46] <IntelCore> GabrielC - there is Apt-Key Manager in apt-get - a graphical manager
[03:47] <IntelCore> Graphical administration tool for digital keys used with APT
[03:48] <GabrielC> IntelCore, awesome! thank
[03:49] <GabrielC> IntelCore, how do i find a gpg key?
[03:50] <GabrielC> e.g. this could be a scam, just saying... look no comments: https://gist.github.com/phihag
[03:56] <oihvirtx86> Hey Guys, I have a question about oVirt, can someone help me?
[04:06] <mercenaryship> Does Ubuntu have a small net installer?
[04:07] <mercenaryship> I can use a server room.
[04:07] <mercenaryship> To do things right.
[04:07] <mercenaryship> Can you see if the military will fund me.
[04:08] <mercenaryship> I can repair quantal and takeover the globe.. again.
[04:08] <IntelCore> lol. Ubuntu is an iso file
[04:08] <mercenaryship> privmsg if interested
[04:09] <lilym> in addition to lsb_release isn't there a file i can cat to find distro version?
[04:10] <IntelCore> that is on da web
[04:10] <Bashing-om> lilym: cat /etc/issue is another .
[04:11] <IntelCore> re-bies
[04:17] <lilym> Bashing-om, nice
[04:25] <lilym> https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest/issues/2435
[04:25] <lilym> dangit wrong place again
[04:29] <big> hi
[04:31] <IntelCore> got gnome flashback, and compiz worked
[04:31] <IntelCore> ty ty ty
[04:33] <Guy1524> hey guys I have found a file called dead.letter in my root folder, here are the contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24651578/
[04:33] <Guy1524> should I be worried about it
[04:36] <IntelCore> Guy1524 - it is a mail thing, google it
[04:39] <IntelCore> This is a mbox formatted file and you can use mailx to read it: mailx -f dead.letter
[04:41] <IntelCore> if you are failing to send mail.. that would need to be looked into
[04:55] <amicrawler> in the terminal is the usename show up and then a @computer
[04:57] <amicrawler> my shell shows my username@something else:~$
[05:02] <Bashing-om> amicrawler: @something else the same as shown ' cat /etc/hosts ; cat /etc/hostname ' ?
[05:04] <amicrawler> yes shows the host name not user
[05:04] <amicrawler> how do i get it back to default
[05:05] <amicrawler> so does not show host name
[05:08] <Bashing-om> amicrawler: What release are you on .. systemd matters .
[05:08] <Bashing-om> !host | amicrawler
[05:08] <amicrawler> 16.04
[05:08] <amicrawler> i was installing plex
[05:09] <akanndel> how
[05:10] <Bashing-om> !hostname | amicrawler
[05:11] <amicrawler> i was just trying to get plex to work right
[05:14] <Bashing-om> amicrawler: Might also pay attention to ' man hostnamectl ' .
[05:23] <aus_mal> Hi, just wondering, if it's not too painful, how I can copy programs from one installation of Ubuntu to another on a separate partition? thanks
[05:30] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Just mount the partition and copy way . sometimes easier in the GUI file manager .
[05:31] <aus_mal> thanks, gonna try making links as well
[05:46] <alexg> hey!\
[06:12] <dzipc> how to use "wget" to do the same thing?    curl -XPUT http://elasticsearch:9200/.kibana/index-pattern/cadvisor -d '{"title" : "cadvisor*",  "timeFieldName": "container_stats.timestamp"}'
[06:26] <lapideviridi> Does anyone know whether the kerning in OpenOffice is better than in Libre Office? Honestly, Libre Office makes it horrible to read my own text
[06:57] <Anonymou1> how much do canonical pay helpers for support in this channel?
[06:58] <doonie> 1 billion dollars *g*
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> Donuts.
[07:01] <Anonymou1> doonie: easy money IMHO
[07:02] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: nothing
[07:02] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: they use people for FREE
[07:02] <JDT_54> I have a question, I cant seem to login remotely, to a ubuntu 12.04lts computer
[07:02] <JDT_54> I've tried with filezilla and scp from commandline
[07:03] <doonie> open source, dig it!
[07:03] <doonie> its hard to login with scp, but then again a hax0r can do anything these days :D try ssh gtg!
[07:03] <ducasse> JDT_54: 12.04 is now eol, no longer supported
[07:03] <Anonymou1> sebsebseb: really? It's true face of free software huh
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> JDT_54, Have you logged into the machine remotely before?
[07:03] <GinTT> does someone help to fix WICD problem , it can't obtain IP, my usb net adapter can't work
[07:03] <ark_> Hi
[07:03] <JDT_54> also change the iptables setting for port 22 #ssh and port 25 #stmp
[07:04] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: not always, but support and marketting does not tend to get payment
[07:05] <JDT_54> doonie ?gtg?
[07:05] <GinTT> does someone familliar with wicd networkmanager ?
[07:06] <JDT_54> no but i can connect it remotely to other machines and filezilla works and so does ssh scp
[07:07] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: really canonical dictate the direction of ubuntu, mark shuttleworth in particular, the dropping of unity 7 8 and the ubuntu touch project are examples of that, but changing the interface to unity in the firstt place and making it was them to, but this is off topic now
[07:07] <ducasse> !ot | sebsebseb
[07:07] <sebsebseb> ducasse: yes as I put above at end
[07:08] <Anonymou1> sebsebseb: I see
[07:09] <GinTT>  does someone familiar with wicd networkmanager ? it failed at obtaining ip
[07:10] <Anonymou1> sebsebseb: but does it mean linux community is society of selfless people?
[07:10] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: its a commercial distro with a company, and a volunteer user comunity such as most people in here, who help  support its, but ill stop offtopic now, and go back to waiting for a potential support issue to help with
[07:11] <Anonymou1> sebsebseb: you're now helpin' me. Thanks a lot
[07:13] <sebsebseb> Anonymou1: pm me if you want to contine this chat, but the answer to your question is no i guess, since certain distros are nothing but volunteers the developrs everyone
[07:13] <sebsebseb> oh gone already oh well
[07:34] <pank_> test
[07:45] <baliste> hi guys - after reboot "ecryptfs-mount-private" does not run by default - i need to change a tty, run it - give the passphrase, and only then i can login. why did this happen?
[08:03] <amosbird> hi, how can I change this interface name to p5p1   "6: p4p1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 " ?
[08:08] <ducasse> baliste: run 'sudo pam-auth-update', make sure 'ecryptfs key/mount management' is activated
[08:10] <baliste> ducasse, ty
[08:23] <[twisti]> trying to apt update, my ubuntu lts 16 sits at "0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::19)]" forever
[08:23] <[twisti]> but i can open it in a browser just fine
[08:23] <[twisti]> any help ?
[08:28] <ducasse> [twisti]: put 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' (without single quotes) in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4, then try again
[08:31] <[twisti]> thanks, appreciated
[09:10] <IntelCore> connected
[09:25] <dddd> hola senor
[09:29] <LeBronse_> I keep getting a popup telling me to install flash for extra functionality and I can't figure out how to stop it. I'm using Kubuntu. Does anyone know how to stop this?
[09:32] <pagz> is it an option to install flash ?
[09:33] <LeBronse_> I declined to install it at installation and now about every half an hour I get a notification telling me to install flash without any way of expressing that I simply don't want it
[09:34] <akik> LeBronse_: there's a setting in kde notifications for it
[09:35] <akik> LeBronse_: "In KDE you can turn off "Restricted codec availability" under 'System Settings' -> Notifications -> 'Other Notifications'."
[09:36] <LeBronse_> akik: Thankyou!
[09:37] <LeBronse_> akik: Can i just ask how you knew that.  Did you search on the internet or just know off the top of your head?
[09:37] <akik> LeBronse_: i've ran into the same problem
[09:37] <akik> it's a weird default as everybody wants to get rid of flash
[09:38] <LeBronse_> Ah ok, I was searching and couldn't find anything what I wanted. Thanks
[09:38] <akik> LeBronse_: usually you write the text from the popup into the search engine
[09:40] <LeBronse_> akik: Wow. I did not even think of that...
[09:40] <LeBronse_> akik: that's not sarcasm haha. I can't believe I didn't think of that
[09:46] <dancingd3mon__> can someone tell me how do i use IPMI ? my OS is Ubuntu 16.04, i tried to reboot my server and it wont come up. The support recommended me doing an IPMI and check the status od my OS. Can someone tell me what do ?
[09:53] <IntelCore> https://www.google.com/search?q=IPMI&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en
[09:53] <IntelCore> check your bios uefi/efi is good
[09:54] <IntelCore> if you had a server, did it crash?
[09:55] <IntelCore> What are you trying to run server on?
[09:56] <IntelCore> If you have grub, run advanced mode (2nd entry on the menu)
[10:00] <IntelCore> www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA13-207A   (IPMI)
[10:03] <rockyh> Hi!
[10:04] <rockyh> nfs(5) says that in /etc/fstab the fstype field should contain `nfs' for a nfs filesystem, and use of `nfs4' is deprecated
[10:05] <rockyh> but in a Ubuntu official documentation example for 16.04 `nfs4' is used
[10:05] <rockyh> so, what should be used?
[10:06] <EriC^^> sync
[10:06] <EriC^^> sorry wrong window
[10:06] <rockyh> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Nfs#Ubuntu_16.04_e_successivi here it is suggested to use the allegedly deprecated `nfs4' fstype
[10:10] <IntelCore> linux.die.net/man/5/nfs
[10:11] <dancingd3mon__> hey IntelCore, Server was running normally, but then I've tried to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and it won't let me. I've seen systerm restart is required so I wrote sudo reboot and since then it didn't come back online.
[10:11] <dancingd3mon__> I'm in IPMI dell session atm, but I have no idea what I should be doing. Can you tell me what should i look at or do maybe ?
[10:12] <IntelCore> The  fstype  field  contains  "nfs".
[10:14] <dancingd3mon__> http://i.imgur.com/sG1zlLU.png
[10:14] <dancingd3mon__> http://i.imgur.com/GNKrvaJ.png
[10:14] <dancingd3mon__> that's what I'm seeing atm IntelCore
[10:16] <IntelCore> depricated is means you dont use 4 or 5.. or like nfs4 mfs5 - just nfs
[10:17] <IntelCore> dancing3mon --- Dell has an entire community on your issue
[10:17] <dancingd3mon__> I'm sorry but what's my issue atm ?
[10:17] <IntelCore> I found MIT also have a link
[10:17] <dancingd3mon__> like you can tell why the server is down already?
[10:18] <IntelCore> no
[10:18] <IntelCore> you try run manager
[10:19] <IntelCore> IPMI
[10:20] <IntelCore> if your srvr wont boot try bios, try reboot, try advanced ubuntu start-up from grub menu
[10:20] <dancingd3mon__> I have no idea how to do this tbh, can you walk me through it ?
[10:21] <IntelCore> you have access to internet, it is explained
[10:23] <dancingd3mon__> yeah but where do i see a screen like SSH here?
[10:23] <dancingd3mon__> i can't SSH into my server so where do i write those CL ?
[10:27] <IntelCore> The IPMItool package supports two interface types: a local ... of an open source tool called IPMItool with IPMI 1.5–compliant Dell servers .
[10:28] <IntelCore> there is an entire pdf file for remote raw commands, outside scope of this chan
[10:29] <IntelCore> zzZZzzz
[10:32] <dancingd3mon__> IntelCore,
[10:33] <dancingd3mon__> I still can't get it done :/
[10:35] <HexaByte> Hi guys. On 16.04 I need php 5.6 alongside 7.0. So I added ppa:ondrej/php. After checking apt-get dist-upgrade system now wants to upgrade my php7.0 to 7.1. How can I stop that and use official 7.0 php upgrades and install 5.6 along side. (see https://pastebin.com/hNxcJZFF)
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> !pin | HexaByte is this useful
[10:39] <multifractal> how do i find where apt-get installed a package (libatlas-base-dev)?
[10:40] <arunpyasi_> Why am I having issues with my WIFI in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS ?? Wifi disconnects time and again !!
[10:40] <EriC^^> dpkg -L libat...
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:46] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, Hi
[10:46] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, any idea about my issue ?
[10:47] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: check dmesg
[10:48] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, http://thehackernews.com/2017/05/samba-rce-exploit.html Has this been released to Xenial ?
[10:49] <EriC^^> no idea
[10:51] <arunpyasi_> hmm..
[10:51] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, the security patch to Xenial and others are the same right ?
[10:51] <EriC^^> i guess so to all still supported ones
[11:01] <tomreyn> arunpyasi_: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-7494.html
[11:02] <tomreyn> so for all ubuntu releases except 17.04 (which is not yet released) the answer is 'yes, fixes are available'
[11:03] <tomreyn> all supported releases, to be precise
[11:16] <zachflem> hi folks, i've just installed ubuntu mate, and I'm having trouble getting webmin to install.  I'm logged into the machine via ssh.
[11:16] <arunpyasi_> tomreyn, hmm great
[11:16] <zachflem> i've added the repos, running everything as sudo, getting 403 errors for the repos when i run "apt-get update"
[11:17] <zachflem> getting 3 dependencies failing, which I am assuming is because the repo can't be found
[11:19] <fallentree> zachflem: what repos?
[11:20] <zachflem>  deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib deb http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge contrib
[11:20] <zachflem> thats the two lines i added to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <zachflem> i thought it might have been because they were sarge repos, so I changed the 'sarge' to 'xenial' like the rest of the entries, but it doesnt seem to exist either, so I changed it back
[11:21] <fallentree> zachflem: first of al... sarge? that's debian and very quite indeed old.
[11:22] <fallentree> yeah, if they don't have working URLs for ubuntu (and specific versions thereof due to dependencies), it's not gonna work.
[11:23] <zachflem> fallentree, i tried using the deb, but i still get the dependency error, and it says they dont exist (paraphrasing)
[11:26] <pagz> what service edits /etc/network/interfaces i make changes to it manually (iface enp2s0 inet6 auto) and on reboot its reverted too (iface enp2s0 inet6 manual)
[11:27] <zachflem> just ran 'apt-get update' and it seems the repo that is 403 is '/main i386 packages'
[11:27] <cmdrkotori> >Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kcharselect/kcharselect_16.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[11:28] <hkeylocal_pitel> hello
[11:28] <hkeylocal_pitel> anybody here?
[11:28] <_Vix> 1760 users.
[11:29] <cmdrkotori> i'm not here
[11:29] <cmdrkotori> i am a bot
[11:29] <redbike> g nickserv identify fZ,zO1NZ
[11:29] <cmdrkotori> nice password
[11:30] <zachflem> (0_o)
[11:30] <redbike> i had to change it :D
[11:30] <redbike> apparently
[11:30] <redbike> but u can't say it wasn't safe enough
[11:31] <fallentree> zachflem: did you see this page? http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[11:31] <fallentree> zachflem: specifically the paragraph "If Debian complains about missing dependencies..."  and "If you're installing on Ubuntu..."  ?
[11:31] <zachflem> fallentree, yeah have that, but the libauthen-pam-perl fails
[11:32] <fallentree> redbike: why not use SASL for automated login?
[11:32] <fallentree> zachflem: I guess it's not compatible with Ubuntu any more. Perhaps best contact them directly, maybe there's an IRC channel
[11:33] <zachflem> i had it installed on the same machine, yesterday, but I was using the server install
[11:33] <HexaByte> Can someone please help me to get just php 5.6 from ppa:ondrej/php while leaving the official php 7.0 installed even during apt-get dist-upgrade? Is there a way to get just php 5.6 from ondrej's PPA?
[11:33] <fallentree> zachflem: which ubuntu version is that?
[11:33] <redbike> fallentree: i should
[11:33] <zachflem> I was having trouble with mounting usb drives though so thought i'd try running mate headless
[11:34] <fallentree> zachflem: that's flavor, but which version?
[11:34] <zachflem> 16.04 for server and 17.04 for mate
[11:34] <zachflem> maybe I should get the 16.04 version of mate
[11:34] <fallentree> zachflem: the package seems to exist for trusty through artful
[11:35] <fallentree> !info libauthen-pam-perl
[11:35] <leftyfb> zachflem: there's no reason you should be bothering with webmin. Also, you mention it's to fix a problem (which it won't fix), why not ask for help with the original problem instead of asking for help with what you think is the solution to the problem?
[11:36] <leftyfb> HexaByte: just so you know, some of the changes in 7.0 from 5.0 were for security reasons. If you want 5.0 because some application doesn't work with 7, you're probably doing it wrong.
[11:38] <HexaByte> leftyfb: 5.6 is supported till end of 2018.
[11:39] <leftyfb> HexaByte: Windows xp is supported in some cases still. I still wouldn't recommend anyone run it.
[11:39] <zachflem> leftyfb, i was trying to get external usb drives to automount and auto share in server, but just couldnt get it to work, i figured I'd try the desktop version as the automounting is already working out of the box
[11:39] <HexaByte> I already have working 7.0 from official repo, but want 5.6 for some old php app alongside. The problem is that when I add ondrej's repo it wants to replace my official php as well: https://pastebin.com/hNxcJZFF
[11:39] <HexaByte> I looked into pining but am unable to find a solution
[11:40] <leftyfb> HexaByte: why not run your application in an lxc container with your old version of php?
[11:40] <HexaByte> leftyfb: because this is a LXC container already and I do not want/can get another virtual instance
[11:40] <fallentree> HexaByte: what specific incompatibilities you're having with 7.x?
[11:41] <fallentree> HexaByte: also you seem to be using containers wrong. With containers you can separate your 7.x apps from 5.x apps, each running in their own container, so it wouldn't matter if the PPA replaces the default PHP
[11:42] <HexaByte> fallentree: i do not have any. Developer has. I wast just ordered to install 5.6 alongside. While I can do it with CentOS and Software Selectios or remi's repos, i'm new to Ubuntu and unable to do it without getting main php upgraded, which I do not
[11:42] <HexaByte> I have not access to host hypervisor in order to create another LXC container
[11:43] <HexaByte> i do not want to create a container within a container. Why don't just just help me, masking certain packages from a ppa?
[11:43] <fallentree> HexaByte: it's an LXC hosting service?
[11:44] <HexaByte> LXC is container, like LXD and Docker are
[11:44] <fallentree> we are helping you. there's the "right way to do it" and there's the "wrong, convoluted way with masking, dependency and version collisions, etc...". containers were invented exactly for that reason -- clean, separate environments.
[11:44] <fallentree> I know what LXC is, but if you have a container, but no access to the host to create another, is that a hosting service whre you purchased a container?
[11:44] <HexaByte> fallentree: so you suggest container within a container?
[11:45] <fallentree> no, I suggest separate containers
[11:45] <HexaByte> I was ordered to make it happen within the same container. I can not tell my boss what to do. I suggested creating another VM, but was met with negative answer.
[11:46] <HexaByte> I appreciate your help in this regard, but sadly I have to do it within a container and within Ubuntu 16.04, where i'm a bit lost.
[11:47] <zachflem> fallentree "E: Package 'libauthen-pam-perl' has no installation candidate" and the same for libio-pty-perl and apt-show-versions when trying to install the dependencies manually, as per that link from before
[11:47] <leftyfb> HexaByte: beyond suggesting from google: https://lornajane.net/posts/2016/php-7-0-and-5-6-on-ubuntu , what you're boss is asking for is the wrong way to go about it and should not be done
[11:47] <HexaByte> :-)
[11:48] <HexaByte> when adding that ppa, it wants to replace official PHP when doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:48] <HexaByte> i want to keep official PHP at least
[11:48] <ducasse> !pin | HexaByte
[11:49] <fallentree> HexaByte: you have really only three options: 1) install php 5.6 only, 2) use separate containers, 3) use a PPA that namespaces packages, so eg. you have php56 and php (or php7)
[11:49] <tomreyn> HexaByte: why do you want to keep the php packages which are part of ubuntu then?
[11:49] <leftyfb> HexaByte: have you already followed those instructions exactly? Mainly: sudo apt-get install php5.6 php7.0 ?
[11:49] <HexaByte> exactly tomreyn
[11:49] <fallentree> HexaByte: you can't keep both 7.x and 5.6 php if the packages are named the same
[11:49] <HexaByte> they are not
[11:49] <leftyfb> fallentree: they're not
[11:50] <leftyfb> HexaByte: have you already followed those instructions exactly? Mainly: sudo apt-get install php5.6 php7.0 ?
[11:50] <HexaByte> leftyfb: have you read my pastebin?
[11:50] <HexaByte> the problem is when i want to do dist-upgrade
[11:50] <HexaByte> due to uprading php-common
[11:50] <HexaByte> or php place holder packages
[11:50] <HexaByte> i can install specific versions without a problem
[11:50] <fallentree> which is what I said, the packages are named the same. or are there php-common7.0 and php-common5.6 ?
[11:51] <HexaByte> but the ypgrade jsut wants to replace my 7.0 official php with 7.1
[11:51] <tomreyn> right, if you want to have two versions of php on one system, use ondrej's PPA and replace the ubuntu packages.
[11:51] <leftyfb> HexaByte: the instructions I gave you do not use dist-upgrade
[11:51] <fallentree> oh wait, I thought it wanted to replace 7.0 with 5.6
[11:51] <HexaByte> leftyfb: how do you upgrade then?
[11:52] <leftyfb> HexaByte: you follow the instructions I gave you
[11:52] <HexaByte> leftyfb: it seems to me that you do not understand that if i follow your instructions I get official php version replaced
[11:53] <leftyfb> HexaByte: you won't know that till you try (which you have not)
[11:53] <HexaByte> i have
[11:53] <leftyfb> negative
[11:53] <hkeylocal_pitel> howdy
[11:53] <HexaByte> i will just read pinning docs again
[11:53] <leftyfb> sudo "apt-get dis-upgrade" != "sudo apt-get install php5.6 php7.0"
[11:53] <leftyfb> HexaByte: sudo apt-get install php5.6 php7.0
[11:53] <leftyfb> not dist-upgrade
[11:53] <HexaByte> i know
[11:53] <leftyfb> they are different
[11:54] <HexaByte> php7.0 comes from unoficial repo
[11:54] <HexaByte> using your command
[11:54] <fallentree> HexaByte: wait, if I understand you correctly now, it wants to replace php7.0 with php7.1? and you want to keep both 7.0 and 5.6?
[11:54] <leftyfb> HexaByte: and?
[11:54] <HexaByte> and I do not want to replace official php relese
[11:54] <leftyfb> HexaByte: why not?
[11:54] <leftyfb> and don't say because of security
[11:54] <tomreyn> that's the question i asked 5 minute ago ;)
[11:54] <HexaByte> because i trust official repos more than some xy guy
[11:55] <leftyfb> because you're well beyond that
[11:55] <fallentree> you've already broken trust by installing a package from "some xy guy" :)
[11:55] <leftyfb> and yet you're installing an outdated version of the application that's probably the most exploited on the planet
[11:55] <leftyfb> from the same source
[11:56] <tomreyn> ondrej does a good job on this PPA. i would not worry too much.
[11:56] <HexaByte> i do not know until when xy guy will support 7.0 while I know how long ubuntu will support it
[11:56] <HexaByte> while this might even be the same guy who is making official releases there is no reasong to switch
[11:56] <fallentree> leftyfb: surely it's not php 5.6.0 but 5.6.30, ie. the patched one? :)
[11:56] <leftyfb> HexaByte: if that is the case, then your php7 will update from the official repo
[11:57] <HexaByte> once i add that ppa, it wants to replace official php with 7.1
[11:57] <leftyfb> HexaByte: also, ondrej is a trusted ubuntu contributer
[11:57] <HexaByte> with his packages
[11:57] <HexaByte> leftyfb: i wrote that
[11:57] <HexaByte> all i want is to have 5.6 from his repos
[11:57] <tomreyn> the reason the 5.6 packages are in this PPA is that the ones of ubuntu proper cannot be installed side by side with another php version.
[11:57] <HexaByte> nothing else
[11:58] <fallentree> then pinning is your only option, "only" in the context of constraints you said you had
[11:59] <HexaByte> that's why I asked for help with it
[11:59] <HexaByte> if anyone is willing
[11:59] <tomreyn> pinning wont work either
[11:59] <HexaByte> i will read the docs again, but i do not see how it could work..
[11:59] <HexaByte> exactly
[12:00] <leftyfb> HexaByte: sudo apt-get install php5.6 php7.0 from the ppa. Then remove the ppa, then do your dist-upgrade
[12:00] <fallentree> leftyfb: uh but that will left them hanging with no updates for 5.6
[12:00] <leftyfb> fallentree: it's php 5.6
[12:00] <fallentree> s/left/leave
[12:00] <fallentree> leftyfb: is it 5.6.0 or 5.6.30 ?
[12:00] <leftyfb> no idea
[12:01] <fallentree> then you can't give that advice. if it's 5.6.30, it's patched and "as secure" as 7.x, relatively speaking
[12:01] <kalcso> How can I change budgie's menu theme?!
[12:01] <fallentree> Personally, I'd insist with the boss and have separate containers
[12:02] <fallentree> as it sounds right now, security is nowhere on the list of things to do for this project, and you're just setting yourself for a lot of grief
[12:02] <leftyfb> kalcso: you'll have to see support from budgie
[12:02] <fallentree> I'd laugh out of the office anyone telling me to install them side by side, with no isolation and a strong MAC policy on php-fpm
[12:02] <kalcso> Here is a theme for GNOME menu: https://github.com/LinxGem33/Arc-Menu
[12:02] <pagz> what is the correct way i tell ubuntu to grab the inet6 address from my modem/gateway (dhcp/auto) i edit /etc/network/interfaces i make changes to it manually (iface enp2s0 inet6 auto) and on reboot its reverted too (iface enp2s0 inet6 manual)
[12:02] <leftyfb> Candidate: 5.6.30-11+deb.sury.org~xenial+3
[12:02] <leftyfb> that's from the ppa
[12:03] <fallentree> meaning it's latest, and removing the PPA would leave them without updates
[12:03] <HexaByte> i get payed if I have to fix hacked websites, so I do not care. I will install 5.6 from source alongside for that virtualhost
[12:03] <HexaByte> tnx for all your help
[12:03] <HexaByte> i wish this was CentOS, then we could use packages instead of compiling from source in 2017 :-(
[12:04] <fallentree> HexaByte: containers inside containers is not such a bad idea, given the constraints you have
[12:04] <fallentree> (keeping in mind it's just isolation, NOT a security measure)
[12:05] <tomreyn> !budgie | kalcso
[12:06] <kalcso> leftyb where is budgie support? you mean that one in budgie welcome?!
[12:06] <fallentree> eh, 17.04 is out, that info tidbit is old
[12:06] <kalcso> I just installed budgie desktop on my ubuntu 17.04
[12:07] <RalphBa> do anyone here know the io scheduling stuff really well?
[12:08] <fallentree> RalphBa: no idea, but ask the specific question you have, someone might chime in.
[12:08] <macmacdv> can i use systemd here to auto restart a crashed service?
[12:09] <fallentree> macmacdv: I think that's as simple as adding Restart=always to the service unit file
[12:10] <fallentree> macmacdv: do consider the consequences of that, if the service does not expect to be restarted like that in case of a crash
[12:10] <macmacdv> fallentree: thank you very much.
[12:12] <fallentree> macmacdv: check the systemd.service manpage, it explains several options which might suit you better. blindly restarting is NEVER a solution.
[12:12] <dancingd3mon__> can someone tell me what i should be doing here ? http://i.imgur.com/dHrzjkY.png
[12:13] <dancingd3mon__> I can't connect to my server and that what it shows in the virtual console
[12:13] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: run the fsck manually? `fsck /dev/sda3`
[12:13] <macmacdv> fallentree: thanks again. I'll check that out.
[12:14] <fallentree> macmacdv: the section on Restart=
[12:14] <macmacdv> fallentree: okay sir.
[12:14] <ioria> Restart=always
[12:15] <tomreyn> kalcso: budgie is supported here (starting version 17.04), sorry for making ubottu provide you with misleading information earlier.
[12:15] <dancingd3mon__> fallentree doing this atm
[12:15] <tomreyn> kalcso: there is also #ubuntu-budgie
[12:15] <dancingd3mon__> thats what i see now : http://i.imgur.com/GyeO7Qp.png
[12:15] <dancingd3mon__> should i ignore this ?
[12:16] <kalcso> !tomreyn
[12:16] <tomreyn> ?
[12:16] <kalcso> !tomreyn thanks.
[12:16] <ioria> kalcso, budgie-core is installed ?
[12:16] <tomreyn> kalcso: welcome (no need for exclamation marks there, i'm human)
[12:17] <kalcso> Yes it is
[12:17] <ioria> kalcso,  and not working ?
[12:17] <kalcso> No, actually it works
[12:18] <ioria> kalcso,  what's the problem , then ?
[12:18] <macmacdv> should i put the service.service on /etc/systemd/system or on /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants ?
 How can I change budgie's menu theme?!
[12:18] <ioria> oh
[12:18] <ioria> !info budgie-desktop-environment
[12:19] <ioria> kalcso,  i think there is another pkg for that budgie de, maybe you need that ... never tried thou
[12:20] <kalcso> I had it
[12:20] <kalcso> I've all budgies requirements
[12:20] <kalcso> I just need to change it's menu theme
[12:23] <dancingd3mon__> what should i use of those : http://i.imgur.com/OSmEZvp.png ?
[12:23] <ioria> kalcso, do you have in desktop settings panel  a 'Raven' item ?
[12:25] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: the first one, the default
[12:26] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: that error... what exactly happened? did you have a hard restart / power failure?
[12:26] <dancingd3mon__> i just typed sudo reboot because for some reasons it wouldn't update or upgrade the system
[12:26] <kalcso> ioria, I don't see any "Raven"
[12:27] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: eh those reasons are important, could be the same thing that caused this corruption. sounds like filesystem corruption. bad disk?
[12:27] <dancingd3mon__> ok so now i can connect to my server using this virtual console but my ssh still won't connect
[12:27] <dancingd3mon__> fallentree, what can be the reason ?
[12:29] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: as it say in the first screenshot you posted, your /dev/sda3 file system (which probably hosts the root file system) requires manual file system recovery.
[12:29] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: disk failures. is that a VM or baremetal?
[12:29] <tomreyn> so your boot process was interrupted and did not get to launch the openssh server
[12:30] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: if you're logged in through the console, check dmesg, see what it says, also journalctl -p err -n
[12:30] <dancingd3mon__> yes, i've done this and it was fixed. Now I'm in my server but using putty I still can't connect to my box.
[12:30] <dancingd3mon__> okay will do this now
[12:34] <dancingd3mon__> fallentree, this is what i see : http://i.imgur.com/OrvHwTO.png
[12:35] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: a lot of failures there. does dmesg indicate problems with the disk? maybe run another fsck. is this a VM or baremetal?
[12:36] <dancingd3mon__> I'm sorry but how can i tell this the VM or baremetal ? it's a dedicated server I've bought of oneprovider
[12:37] <dancingd3mon__> I will run fsck again then but currently i can ftp to my server normally but only ssh to it won't work.
[12:38] <jhaig> Hi. Just looking at the release notes for 17.04 and I see that it will use a swap file instead of partition. What are the benefits of a file instead of a partition?
[12:39] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: dedicated = baremetal. very likely you have a failed disk there. running smartctl would give you some indication of that. also dmesg
[12:40] <Ventross> anyone have any experience running an IRC server on 17.04?
[12:41] <dancingd3mon__> thats what i see when i type dmesg fallentree http://i.imgur.com/59VPbAX.png
[12:41] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: can you show the output of: service sshd status
[12:41] <akik> dancingd3mon__: you could check lscpu and /proc/cpuinfo for clues whether it's a vm
[12:41] <dancingd3mon__> tomreyn, thats what i see http://i.imgur.com/BN0X689.png
[12:42] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: this suggests that your ssh server is currently running
[12:42] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: whats the error message you get when you try to connect to it?
[12:42] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: there should be more output, look earlier for any disk problems. and again, try smartctl from smartmontools, it's not absolute but may indicate problems.
[12:43] <dancingd3mon__> okay thanks akik, but iirc when buying the server there was a choice to either go for VM or dedicated, and I chose the dedicated.
[12:43] <dancingd3mon__> hmm weird, not it connected just fine..
[12:43] <akik> !info virt-what xenial
[12:43] <dancingd3mon__> it kept on giving me connection timeout or something
[12:44] <dancingd3mon__> now*
[12:45] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: i agree with akik that you should now try to get a better idea of what happened and caused these issues you had, since there is a good chance they can happen again.
[12:45] <tomreyn> and you may want to be prepared for them, or even ask your provider to replace hardware.
[12:45] <akik> i just commented about virtualization
[12:46] <dancingd3mon__> oh thanks guys, so what should i type now to check what happened ?
[12:48] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: check /var/log/syslog and maybe /var/log/syslog.1 and older ones. you want to check what was logged around the time your root file system became unavailable.
[12:49] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: you should also run a long self test on /dev/sda using smartmon-tools
[12:49] <fallentree> smartmontools
[12:49] <tomreyn> correct, thanks
[12:49] <fallentree> smartctl command from smartmontools package
[12:50] <fallentree> it's a bit heavy on dependencies, will want to install a mail server (because of smartd notifications)
[12:50] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: another thing, since that's a dedicated server, do you have raid, or is it a single disk set up?
[12:50] <tomreyn> well just s-nail
[12:51] <dancingd3mon__> it's raid 0
[12:51] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: 0? you sure?
[12:51] <fallentree> not 1 (mirror) but 0 (stripe)?
[12:52] <dancingd3mon__> http://i.imgur.com/XJhgoAl.png
[12:52] <dancingd3mon__> guess not, It's raid 0 afaik.
[12:52] <fallentree> well if that is true, and it's raid 0 and hardware even, you're in a world of hurt if you don't have backups and there's corruption or failure with even a single drive.
[12:53] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: what I'd suggest to you is rebooting into a rescue mode if your provider has it, and then check everything thoroughly. in fact, actually, I'd recommend you to reinstall with software raid 1 (after replacing failed disk), and restore from backups.
[12:54] <fallentree> raid 0 should be used only, and ONLY, if you really need io performance on highly volatile (easy to replace) data.
[12:54] <tomreyn> that'll only work if you can manage / disable the hardware RAID, though
[12:54] <fallentree> but then, if you need performance, ssds are the right way today
[12:55] <fallentree> tomreyn: that's true, or put it into jbod mode and then run mdadm on two disks. surely all HW raids support that
[12:55] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: when ssh wasnt working but you were still able to access the server, how did this work technically?
[12:56] <dancingd3mon__> the server has 2 HDD 1 TB each and It came with raid1 but since it's only 2 TB and tbh the data I have there isn't that much important, I wanted a better performance and a bigger space.
[12:57] <tomreyn> i'm trying to get a better understanding of your hardware and whether or how you can configure the BIOS / UEFI
[12:57] <fallentree> tomreyn: virtual console, KVM probably
[12:57] <dancingd3mon__> so I reinstalled it choosing RAID0 from the onepanal thing for oneprovider site.
[12:58] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: then the best thing to do (if you really don't want to switch raid levels) is to reboot into rescue mode, identify the failure, replace drive and reinstall everything.
[12:58] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: do you know which RAID controller it has?
[13:00] <dancingd3mon__> It wouldn't start and the staff said i should request an IPMI session so i did that and i started the virtual console preview. It was stuck with some errors which i don't remember tbh,..I chose macros then ctrl+alt_Del and it restarted the system and then the FSCK showed up
[13:00] <dancingd3mon__> I had to do it manually then again restarted the system and then i was able to log in.
[13:00] <dancingd3mon__> I have no idea which raid controller it has
[13:01] <fallentree> lspci might tell you
[13:01] <tomreyn> hdparm -i /dev/sda
[13:01] <tomreyn> "IPMI session" suggests it is probably a supermicro server
[13:02] <dancingd3mon__> for the hdparm : http://i.imgur.com/FqkwNVj.png
[13:02] <dancingd3mon__> lspci : http://i.imgur.com/lBVAmuf.png
[13:02] <tomreyn> hmm, that can be a broken disk
[13:03] <dancingd3mon__> http://i.imgur.com/N3qXIAK.png
[13:03] <dancingd3mon__> should I ask them to replace it or something ?
[13:04] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: you should first identify which one it is. note, if they replace it, you have to reinstall everything from scratch.
[13:04] <dancingd3mon__> it's fine to install everything from scratch
[13:05] <dancingd3mon__> but identifying which one can be a bit hard for me i guess since I mostly know some CL that I use and that's it.
[13:06] <tomreyn> So you have an LSI Logic HW RAID controller for SAS disks, and an on-board Intel SATA controller which can probably do fake RAID.
[13:06] <tomreyn> And the server is probably a DELL
[13:06] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: like I said, reboot into rescue mode, then run a battery of tests. smartctl will give indication of issues. maybe the problems are already logged, maybe you'll need to run a -t long test on each
[13:06] <dancingd3mon__> yes
[13:07] <dancingd3mon__> okay so now I'm back in the virtual console review, may i know how to reboot in rescue mode and the smartctl thing ?
[13:07] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: you need to initiate it from your host panel. the idea is not to boot into OS on those drives, but PXE/virtual, then check drives offline
[13:09] <fallentree> since it's hardware raid, you have limited options, in fact other than smartctl tests, and any specific tools the IPMI might have, there's nothing much you can do as the filesystem is not aware of multiple disks, ie. no mdadm to check consistency
[13:09] <Kabe> Anyone work with Active Directory and Ubuntu before?
[13:09] <dancingd3mon__> when i hit the ctrl+alt_delete, i had an ubuntu advanced options and there was recovery option there. Does that help in anyway ?
[13:10] <macmacdv> can I simulate a service that had crash?
[13:10] <dancingd3mon__> http://i.imgur.com/OSmEZvp.png
[13:10] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: no, that just boots into the OS on the drives. then again, technically, you can install and run tests from that OS, but any problems with FS might interfere or crash the system, so it's adviseable to do offline tests
[13:11] <dancingd3mon__> should i ask the support to do it on my behalf maybe ? I doubt i can do this myself.
[13:12] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: or if you don't wanna bother, just open a ticket and tell them the drives are broken. they'll either replace them or run tests first and find the issues themselves. at any rate, you're looking at complete reinstallation, so it doesn't matter :)
[13:13] <tomreyn> macmacdv: you can make any process segfault by signalling SEGSEV to it
[13:13] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: they might also say no and tell them which drive failed, to replace. I'm not familiar with that provider, but if it's a cheap/budget one, they probably won't bother.
[13:14] <macmacdv> tomreyn: okay, i will try it.
[13:14] <tomreyn> macmacdv: man 7 signal
[13:14] <macmacdv> tomreyn: thank you. I thought "kill" would do it
[13:15] <dancingd3mon__> many thanks fallentree and tomreyn. I will backup my data and let them know about asap.
[13:15] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: you _will_ backup? I doubt it :) that's raid 0, if it's broken, no data in broken regions.
[13:16] <tomreyn> dancingd3mon__: unless you have a good service level they may not be willing to ionvestigate unless you provide 'proof' (in the form of command output suggesting so) that any of the disks are broken.
[13:16] <macmacdv> tomreyn: like if i want to simulate a crash on service.service, i would do kill -9 process_number
[13:17] <dancingd3mon__> But i can access all my data normally so far
[13:17] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: maybe, maybe not (did you really check all the terabytes you have?). at any rate, if you don't have backups already, I really really wish you good luck.
[13:17] <dancingd3mon__> I'm starting ftp from this server to another one as a backup. Maybe I will see some errors during the transfer operation hehe
[13:18] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: how much data do you have?
[13:18] <dancingd3mon__> I have them all backed up in some cloud service too, and many thanks
[13:18] <dancingd3mon__> 1.7TB :)
[13:19] <tomreyn> macmacdv: no, -9 is SIGKILL, that's not going to be handled as a 'crash', if you mean a segmentation fault or similar software failure.
[13:19] <fallentree> that'll take quite a while. and I wonder what cloud service is that, 1.7T (+ bandwidth to get it out) sounds quite costly
[13:19] <dancingd3mon__> hmmm
[13:19] <dancingd3mon__> You never heard of amazon cloud ?
[13:19] <macmacdv> tomreyn: okay.. i thought i could use that.
[13:19] <dancingd3mon__> I have 79 TB there with no issues :)
[13:19] <fallentree> I did, and I know their storage and bw prices
[13:20] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: 79T? really?
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> since 2 years
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> yes
[13:20] <tomreyn> macmacdv: maybe you can, i'm just guessing what you are trying to achieve since 'crahs' is not specific.
[13:20] <tomreyn> *crash
[13:20] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: how much does that cost, if I may ask?
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> actually 72 TB : http://i.imgur.com/biJgIs8.png
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> only 60 dollars per month
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> only 60 dollars per year lol
[13:20] <dancingd3mon__> and you get 3 months as a trial.
[13:21] <fallentree> $60/y for 70T of data?
[13:21] <dancingd3mon__> I promise it's true.
[13:21] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: is that cold storage?
[13:21] <fallentree> that glacier thing or whatsitcalled
[13:21] <dancingd3mon__> I use some CL app which sadly got banned 10 days ago called rclone to do it off my box
[13:21] <Kabe> I am trying to get the Ubuntu laptop to connect to the Active Directory domain in my company and keep getting this error message that says  "Failed to join domain: failed to verify domain membership after joining: Access denied"... Kinit works fine... This is on Ubuntu 16.04
[13:22] <dancingd3mon__> but they are working on some modification i guess to fix this, reddit is all about it atm.
[13:22] <Kabe> using sssd
[13:23] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: I don't believe those prices. with glacier (cold sotrage, cheapest per GB), that's more than $200/mo
[13:23] <dancingd3mon__> I know someone with around 100 TB with no issues so far, sadly I'm currently stuck with the web interface upload page which is slower and has other issues, but still doing the job till we see how will it go with the whole CL scripts.
[13:24] <dancingd3mon__> But it's true man. I only paid 60 dollars and it's going fine till now
[13:24] <dancingd3mon__> been downloading off the cloud using the CL which can be as simple as rclone copy CLOUDname:FOLDER ~/FOLDER
[13:25] <dancingd3mon__> and no limitations nothing, you can download 20 TB per day...
[13:25] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: which service is that exactly? Amazon has several. glacier, s3, ebs, ...
[13:25] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: 20TB per day? dude...
[13:25] <dancingd3mon__> https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive
[13:25] <dancingd3mon__> I'm serious man lol
[13:25] <dancingd3mon__> try their three month and be the judge yourself.
[13:26] <dancingd3mon__> You have nothing to lose, but as I've said, they have recently the most common uploading script called rclone, while the owner says he is working on it with amazing atm..
[13:27] <dancingd3mon__> https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/6bv8a4/rclone_has_stopped_working_with_acd_user_claims/
[13:27] <sinemm> x
[13:27] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: 20TB per day means you have 2Gbps at your disposal at all the times. I seriously doubt that.
[13:29] <dancingd3mon__> well, I had backed up two servers that I've had on Amazon, they were 12 TB and 16 TB
[13:29] <dancingd3mon__> the total used space was 20 TB
[13:29] <dancingd3mon__> I bought a bigger one with a friend and a simple CL running on a screen got it all sorted.
[13:29] <dancingd3mon__> as I've said, why not try it yourself? it's free
[13:30] <fallentree> 20GB maybe, but not TB
[13:31] <dancingd3mon__> I promise 20TB hehe
[13:31] <fallentree> nah
[13:31] <dancingd3mon__> well, it really happened man
[13:31] <fallentree> if it is, it's some experimental, trial thing, and you'll get hit hard once they start charging
[13:31] <fallentree> glacier, their cheapest storage, would set you back $200+/mo for those 70T
[13:32] <dancingd3mon__> I guess it's so good to be true
[13:34] <anug> help!, desktop not loading after sign in. background wallpaper is only visible
[13:35] <anug> before restart, i installed nemo and now desktop not loading
[13:35] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: I really recommend you to check everything, terms of service especially. I'd hate it if you get hit with huge back payments because you broke through a threshold and ToS bound you to pay for it later.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> heh, with my internet connection a 1TB dataset would take weeks to upload to amazon cloud
[13:36] <dancingd3mon__> true hehe...
[13:36] <dancingd3mon__> I will make sure to read them again fallentree and it would be brutal lol
[13:36] <dancingd3mon__> BluesKaj, really hehe, what's your internet speed?
[13:37] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: well just think reasonably. the equipment required to store 70T consumes power. power bills alone, just for you and your 70T, would set them back quite a lot per month. cloud or not, it's backed by actual hardware that needs the juice.
[13:37] <dancingd3mon__> that's true...
[13:37] <dancingd3mon__> but I was somehow wondering, how does usenet work then ?
[13:37] <Dro> after a "cp -rf folder1 folder2" I found that the size of folder2 is nearly double of folder1 , (270M to 420M) is that normal? lol
[13:38] <anug> help!, desktop not loading after sign in. background wallpaper is only visible
[13:38] <anug> i cant do anything now
[13:38] <dancingd3mon__> people backup their stuff there too...and it's for free, just for some provider and you're good to go
[13:38] <anug> help me please
[13:38] <dancingd3mon__> they encrypt it of course.
[13:39] <fallentree> dancingd3mon__: not 70T for single user though.
[13:41] <dancingd3mon__> true it's a lot for a single user :)
[13:42] <anug> any other channel where somone can help me solve my problem?
[13:42] <ducasse> !patience | anug
[13:43] <anug> i cannot use desktop. only shows wallpaper, no launcher and status bar
[13:44] <Akuma> hello, I'm trying to join a samba domain, however I am experiencing an issue after following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html - I'm getting this message when doing the "sudo net ads join -k" command: "Additional pre-authentication required"
[13:44] <Akuma> I've reviewed all the files and everything is according with the guide, my windows and mac computers connect to that AD fine
[13:44] <Akuma> any help would be appreciated
[13:46] <anug> i cannot access anything from desktop
[13:47] <multifractal> My collegue was trying to install 16.04.2 alongside Win10. The installer wizard is stuck on a page with a map of the world entitled "where are you?". it has been there for about 15-20 mintues so far.
[13:48] <Kabe> Hi Akuma im having the exact same issue... Im also looking for help on the issue
[13:48] <Kabe> kinit works for you?
[13:49] <anug> help!, desktop not loading after sign in. background wallpaper is only visible
[13:49] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  click on the map close to your area for your location
[13:49] <redbike> anug: i assume restart does not help
[13:50] <anug> is there anything i could do to fix it from live session
[13:50] <anug> restart didnt help
[13:50] <redbike> anug: you can get console: ctrl+alt+F1
[13:50] <multifractal> BluesKaj: OK did that, and the little pin moved slightly. But the installer wizard is still stuck at the same point.
[13:51] <anug> i couldnt get console
[13:51] <anug> im using live session now
[13:51] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  click on continue?
[13:52] <anug> i was changing nautilus to nemo and restarted. now desktop wont load, cannot access anything
[13:52] <multifractal> BluesKaj: Maybe we're talking at cross purposes here. When I said "it's stuck on a page...", that's not because we hadn't figured out how to click continue. It's because we had already chosen those settings, clicked continue and waited 15-20 minutes.
[13:54] <ducasse> multifractal: have you tried "check media for defects" from the boot menu?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  ok, i had to ask...can you move the cursor at all or is everything frozen ? if not then go back and try again. There was a buggy installer on some isos from older versions of the same OS
[13:57] <anug> help!, desktop not loading after sign in. background wallpaper is only visible
[13:58] <ducasse> anug: did you read the factoid from ubottu? please be patient, wait 15-20 minutes before repeating your question.
[13:58] <multifractal> BluesKaj: We were able to power off the computer and boot back into Win10 - no harm done. The ISO is for 16.04.2 downloaded an hour ago, and MD5sum is correct.
[13:59] <anug> okay
[13:59] <anug> is there anything i can do to get terminal
[13:59] <anug> from boot options?
[14:00] <Ben64> you might be able to get a terminal by doing ctrl+alt+t on the desktop
[14:00] <ducasse> !recovery | anug
[14:00] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  do you need LTS because 17.04 is much less buigy than 16.04
[14:00] <anug> ill check it out
[14:02] <multifractal> 16.04.2LTS is the one we downloaded. I thought LTS versions were supposed to be more stable than the more recent ones.
[14:07] <scottjl> they are
[14:07] <Akuma> Kabe, I can do kinit and klist
[14:08] <Akuma> I just have issues with the " sudo net ads join -k" part
[14:08] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  usually that's the case, but.....
[14:09] <scottjl> not a guarantee of 100% stability though. it is software after all
[14:11] <BluesKaj> multifractal,  16.04 seems to have more problems than nother LTSs in my experience
[14:11] <BluesKaj> nother=other
[14:13] <anug> i had no success in geting back desktop
[14:14] <anug> still blank screen with flickering desktop files
[14:16] <Kabe> Alright so we must have the same exact issue... I am running the gnome distribution so I asked in that support channel. Ill let you know if I have any luck today getting it working. It might be a library issue from what I am reading.
[14:17] <Kabe> centos users were able to fix the issue just by updating their system... I am running Ubuntu 16.04. What version is yours?
[14:17] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[14:18] <Kabe> @kuma
[14:18] <Kabe> Akuma
[14:18] <DannyButterman> Does someone know how to make a2ensite process my vhost conf file ? It keeps on teling me I have no such vhost
[14:19] <Kabe> DannyButterman: Make sure you have sudo enabled when running the command and that its' in the sites-available folder.
[14:27] <DannyButterman> Kabe: Of course. But I did find the culprit : some smart ass thought vhosts files should end with a ".conf" extension, otherwise the vhost file is ignored outright.It's fixed then thank you anyway :)
[14:30] <leftyfb> DannyButterman: that's how apache works now
[14:31] <leftyfb> DannyButterman: I removed that config a while ago do it wouldn't require .conf, but then I put it back because things like a2ensite till didn't work without the .conf
[14:31] <leftyfb> do/so
[14:32] <hiru> after using ctrl alt f2 I can't use kb and mouse anymore. why?
[14:34] <DannyButterman> leftyfb: Once one knows, it's not a problem. But among all the pages I've browsed since this very morning about this issue, I did not see any mention of this very small detail. Quite unnerving.
[14:35] <leftyfb> DannyButterman: yeah, I found little on it when I ran into it when I went from 8.04 to 16.04 :)
[14:35] <leftyfb> I forget how I stumbled across it
[14:45] <bodhi2352354> test ubuntu
[14:45] <idzireit> read your test budhi
[14:46] <bodhi2352354> guys anyone had problems with nvidia card on ubuntu ?when i change from microsoft video card to nvidia the system crash /then i reboot with phisical button /kill
[15:03] <mattlb> running 16.04 LTS on VirtualBox under windows 10, continue getting black screen, requires killing X and logging back in to get back, 4K display with scaling set to 200%
[15:04] <nacc> mattlb: did you install the virtualbox guest additions?
[15:04] <mattlb> yes multiple times
[15:05] <nacc> mattlb: well that doesn't make sense. it's one package. you install it once.
[15:05] <mattlb> do host additions need to be installed everytime apt upgrade
[15:05] <nacc> mattlb: not host additions. guest additions.
[15:05] <nacc> mattlb: i don't even know if 'host additions' is a thing
[15:06] <nacc> mattlb: but it'd be a windows/virtualbox thing, not an ubuntu thing in your setup
[15:06] <mattlb> nacc: I meant guest additions, yes
[15:06] <fallentree> only the vboxdrv if you stretch the meaning of it :)
[15:06] <nacc> mattlb: have you tried booting your guest with 'nomodeset'?
[15:06] <nacc> mattlb: in what context do you get the 'black screen'?
[15:08] <mattlb> nacc: it ususally happens soon after bootup when opening a new window, I feel it has something to do with 4K and scaling, as I'm not having this issue on other machines with the same config
[15:08] <mattlb> nac: I have not tried booting with 'nomodeset'
[15:10] <bitblit> anyone have any luck using joy2key with VisualBoyAdvance?
[15:10] <nacc> mattlb: i don't think it applies in your case -- that's for when you don't get anything but a blackscreen, iiuc
[15:10] <nacc> mattlb: you might ask the virtualbox folks for help debugging it
[15:11] <mattlb> nacc: will do,thx
[15:14] <nacc> mattlb: or stick around here, i don't use vbox myself, maybe somoene has a better idea
[15:16] <jonfatino> Why are there no guides to boot ubuntu 16.04 livecd via pxe + http
[15:16] <LeBronse_> mattlb: what vbox problem are you having?
[15:16] <jonfatino> It can't be that hard to download kernel / initrd + squashfs via http
[15:16] <jonfatino> I see 100 guides for nfs but I don't want to load nfs I want to load http
[15:17] <jonfatino> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[15:18] <anug> Hi, My desktop is blank and cannot access anything, how to resolve
[15:18] <anug> I tried reinstalling Ubuntu desktop, but not work
[15:19] <LeBronse_> anug: can you get to a terminal then?
[15:19] <nacc> jonfatino: pxe is a very limited environment
[15:20] <compdoc> jonfatino, never knew you could boot from an http service
[15:24] <leftyfb> jonfatino: the kernel and initrd are loaded over tftp. The root filesystem needs to be mounted. You're not doing that over http
[15:24] <anug> Hi, My desktop is blank and cannot access anything, how to resolve
[15:25] <rachelfish> Hi there, I just did apt-get install openjdk-8-jre but java -version still shows java 7
[15:27] <leftyfb> rachelfish: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[15:28] <rachelfish> Aha!
[15:28] <rachelfish> Thank you leftyfb :)
[15:29] <jonfatino> Using gpxe or ipxe you can load kernel + initrd over http
[15:30] <leftyfb> jonfatino: correct. But not the mounted root filesystem
[15:30] <leftyfb> jonfatino: in the live environment, the root filesystem gets mounted, not loaded into memory
[15:30] <jonfatino> Mounted from?
[15:30] <leftyfb> nfs
[15:30] <jonfatino> In the case of a livecd?
[15:31] <jonfatino> It loads it into ram
[15:31] <jonfatino> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969041
[15:31] <leftyfb> it mounts it from the cd
[15:32] <anug> Hi, My desktop is blank and cannot access anything, how to resolve
[15:32] <jonfatino> Anug try booting to a livecd and mount yoru disk and look at /var/log/syslog and all the log files to see what's going on
[15:33] <leftyfb> anug: please do not post every 5 minutes. Be patient and wait till someone is willing and able to help you.
[15:33] <leftyfb> jonfatino: what is the issue with doing this over nfs?
[15:33] <anug> I'm new to linux
[15:33] <anug> I don't understand the logs
[15:34] <jonfatino> leftyfb: My friend has a livecd / basic console ubuntu 14.04 system loading from pxe + http
[15:34] <jonfatino>         kernel http://192.168.10.10/ubuntu1404x64
[15:34] <jonfatino>         append initrd=http://192.168.10.10/initrd.gz root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk=51200 rw net.ifnames=1 biosdevname=0
[15:34] <jonfatino> Just looking to set up something similar to that
[15:35] <leftyfb> jonfatino: then why aren't you asking your friend for help?
[15:36] <nacc> jonfatino: when you do something similar, what happens?
[15:36] <jonfatino> He's gone for 2 weeks lol
[15:36] <leftyfb> and again, I'm curious why you can't do this with nfs
[15:37] <anug> What will I loose if I reinstall Ubuntu
[15:37] <leftyfb> anug: nothing if you have backups
[15:38] <anug> The apps?
[15:38] <anonymous> dscas
[15:39] <anug> And system updates?
[15:39] <jonfatino> While yes I can easily setup nfs server and do it that way
[15:39] <jonfatino> but when your talking about standard templates and deployement system
[15:39] <jonfatino> 14 data cetners around the world
[15:39] <jonfatino> trying to load all from 1 "nfs" server is not a good idea
[15:39] <nacc> jonfatino: note that none of us had that context (afaict)
[15:40] <leftyfb> anug: you reinstall the apps an run an update
[15:40] <jonfatino> and deploying / config nfs on 14 diff deployment servers etc. Just trying to avoid nfs all together
[15:40] <anug> It seems like clean install again
[15:40] <leftyfb> jonfatino: that is really easy to deploy ... especially with vm's/containers
[15:41] <jonfatino> leftyfb: these are physical hypervisors / bare metal servers
[15:41] <nacc> jonfatino: ok, so you still haven't said what the actual error is.
[15:41] <nacc> jonfatino: you stated that ipxe and gpxe support http.
[15:41] <nacc> jonfatino: and that you don't want nfs. move on. i asked about 5 minutes ago for actual details.
[15:41] <anug> Had gigs of lib files 😢
[15:41] <jonfatino> My question is where do I specify squashfs?
[15:42] <nacc> jonfatino: i have no idea what you mean?
[15:42] <jonfatino> GIve me a bit ill get you an example
[15:43] <leftyfb> jonfatino: This is what I have that utilizes nfs: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24656529/
[15:43] <leftyfb> anug: lib files mean nothing. Just reinstall the apps you need
[15:43] <anug> Though that's a lot
[15:44] <leftyfb> anug: a lot of apps? It's doubtful there's more than a dozen apps that you need to reinstall.
[15:45] <anug> I can see the desktop wallpaper and desktop files flickering, but no launcher and dash, cannot access anything
[15:46] <LeBronse_> anug:  what happens if you press ztrl+alt+f1 ?
[15:46] <anug> I worry about reconfiguring the desktop again
[15:46] <LeBronse_> ctrl*
[15:46] <anug> I get to full screen terminal
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> !enter | anug
[15:47] <Guest51455> zzx
[15:47] <LeBronse_> anug: can you log in with this full screen terminal?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest51455: can we help you?
[15:47] <anug> Okay, wait I'm backing some data
[15:47] <Guest51455> i ned some bady
[15:48] <satpal> can the gnome-disk-utility be used to repair windows?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> satpal: what did you brake exactly?
[15:49] <leftyfb> satpal: Not if it's an operating system/config issue. Possibly the filesystem check, but it's still not the best tool for it
[15:49] <BluesKaj> if it's just the bootloader then depends whether it's uefi or bios
[15:49] <satpal> it has the option to create and restore img files. can that be used?
[15:51] <anonymous_> i need some bady
[15:51] <satpal> can the image of healthy-windows taken from gnome-disk-utility(img file) be used to restore windows if it ever goes bad?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !details | anonymous_
[15:52] <anug> Before I got into the problem, I was setting up Nemo as default file manager and for icons, also I deleted some unity icons manually
[15:52] <anonymous_> DDos attak
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: this channel is only for ubuntu support, please stop
[15:53] <anonymous_> what
[15:54] <idzireit> help
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> !ask | idzireit
[15:54] <tomreyn> !ask | idzireit
[15:55] <LeBronse_> anug: what version of Ubuntu are you using and what desktop environment? Maybe it will be possible to just reinstall whatever environment you were using
[15:57] <anug> 16.04
[15:57] <anug> I'm in full screen terminal
[15:57] <anonymous_> what is ubuntu?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | anonymous_
[15:57] <LeBronse_> anug: with unity?
[15:58] <anug> Yes I guess
[15:58] <anug> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[15:59] <LeBronse_> anug: https://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[15:59] <tomreyn> satpal: i have not tried, but the gnome-disk utility allows you to create and restore entire device images. you could use this to image any device and restore that later. so unless you miss any devices, taking backups of all devices which are required to run any OS and restoring them later should suffice to make nay OS stored on them work again.
[16:00] <anug> Gnome desktop environment
[16:01] <nacc> anug: gnome is not unity
[16:01] <anug> I have similar issues like this one you sent, but I can able to see desktop files, and they are flickering
[16:02] <anug> It seems like trying to rest ui again
[16:03] <anonymous_> what are taiking about in this channel?
[16:04] <leftyfb> !ubuntu | anonymous_
[16:04] <BluesKaj> this is ubuntu support , not a chit chat room
[16:04] <leftyfb> anonymous_: this is not a chat room. Is it for Ubuntu support
[16:04] <leftyfb> anonymous_: if you are not running Ubuntu then it is more than likely not a place for you
[16:05] <anonymous_> hahaahahahahah
[16:05] <anonymous_> thinks avery bady\
[16:05] <modp> hello is 8gb enough to install ubuntu 16.04
[16:05] <LeBronse_> modp: yes, more than enough
[16:06] <LeBronse_> modp: I just got confused thought of RAM (memory)... take back what I said
[16:06] <nacc> modp: right, '8gb' of what?
[16:07] <anonymous__> thinks every bsdy
[16:08] <anonymous__> bady
[16:08] <nacc> anonymous__: we don't care. please top.
[16:08] <modp> im installing it on an 8gb usb flash drive on a intel e3-1246v3 xeon w/ 16gb ram, nvidia gtx1050
[16:08] <eliask1> Hello Ubuntu World!
[16:08] <anonymous__> haaahhaahahahah
[16:08] <nacc> modp: do you want persistence? or just the live usb?
[16:09] <modp> i do not understand the greek you are speaking
[16:09] <nacc> !persistence | modp
[16:10] <nacc> modp: a live usb is just that, a 'live' session of ubuntu, nothing stays after you reboot
[16:10] <modp> ah. i've always installed ubuntu. i never use the live version.
[16:10] <nacc> modp: a persistent USB has some space that is writable
[16:10] <modp> yeah, i know live version. just never heard the word "persistent". sounds strange. i just think of it as installed or live.
[16:10] <nacc> modp: ok, 8gb of disk space is probalby sufficient, but you might run out relatively quickly. It depends on what you install and how you use it.
[16:11] <nacc> modp: i think i misunderstood your use case, sorry
[16:12] <modp> i just want to run a zcash miner program on the machine. wasn't going to do anything else with it. since the box has 16gb ram, i was going to omit the swap partition on the usb to avoid excessive writes.
[16:12] <jamesl> I'm using a PPTP VPN on a VPS with a single IP. I can connect to the VPN, but there is absolutely no Internet access. How do I get Internet access with my pptp VPN? I have enabled ip_forward in sysctl
[16:13] <jamesl> my local and remote IPs are set to the same value since I only have one assigned IP
[16:13] <tomreyn> modp: mining tends to involve excessive writes, too. i would not use a flash drive for it. but YMMV.
[16:14] <tony_> how do i find other rooms
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !alis | tony_
[16:14] <tomreyn> !alis | tony_
[16:14] <DArqueBishop> jamesl: I'd choose a different VPN like OpenVPN. PPTP is horribly insecure and broken.
[16:14] <jamesl> ah
[16:14] <jamesl> I couldn't get openVPN to work so I tried PPTP
[16:17] <modp> so it turns out 8gb is not enough. ubuntu installer says i must have 8.4gb
[16:17] <DArqueBishop> jamesl: you might want to ask in #openvpn if you want help with OpenVPN.
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> modp: try lubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:19] <nacc> modp: or try the mini installer?
[16:19] <modp> yeah. i just found a 64gb flash drive i can use
[16:19] <nacc> modp: i doubt you need a desktop env at all based upon what you said
[16:22] <tony_> list porn
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> !warez | tony_
[16:25] <seanJA> heya all... not sure if this is the right place or not to ask for help, but i've been struggling with this for two days now.
[16:26] <jonfatino> Ubuntu 16.04 vmlinuz.efi
[16:26] <jonfatino> Did they change the default one in the livecd / desktop image
[16:26] <seanJA> i'm trying to resize my partition on a vm after i resized the hdd, heres a screenshot of gparted live https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/aAuWobTWh.png
[16:26] <jonfatino> Example in 14.04 I was able to do this
[16:26] <jonfatino> imgargs vmlinuz.efi boot=live config console=ttyS0 username=live fetch=http://192.168.10.10/boot_templates/ubuntu_16.04/casper/filesystem.squashfs
[16:26] <seanJA> it wont seem to let me take up that extra space
[16:26] <jonfatino> Its not even fetching the squashfs image in http logs
[16:27] <tnwhitwell> seanJA: it looks like you're using lvm - you may have to use lvresize
[16:28] <anonymous__> is the ubuntu system used in hack ?
[16:28] <anonymous__> or no
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> !ops | anonymous__ doesnt understand the guidelines
[16:29] <seanJA> tnwhitwell: hmm, but don't i need to extend the /dev/sda2 before i can use lvresize to expand the lvm /dev/sda5 ?
[16:31] <anonymous__> ho
[16:31] <tomreyn> tnwhitwell: http://gparted.org/features.php suggests that gparted can handle lvm2 pv
[16:31] <anonymous__> i under stand
[16:31] <popey> anonymous__: this is a support channel, please stick to support requests here, thanks.
[16:33] <tomreyn> seanJA: the size of sda2 is defined by the sum of the sizes of all extended partitions. you have a single extended partition, sda5.
[16:33] <tomreyn> seanJA: are you able to modify sda5?
[16:33] <psychoticwarrior> seanJA are you trying to decrease or increase the partiton size
[16:34] <tnwhitwell> tomreyn: ha, i was just typing that out
[16:34] <tomreyn> :)
[16:35] <seanJA> thank you tnwhitwell tomreyn and psychoticwarrior I've got it figured out, I had to unmount the lvm from the extended partition before i could resize them, it let me resize after that and then reattach the mount
[16:35] <tomreyn> seanJA: good point, i just read this here, too https://superuser.com/questions/917988/gparted-cannot-resize-extended-or-lvm-partition
[16:36] <tomreyn> the lvm is automatically activated
[16:36] <seanJA> nice!
[16:36] <seanJA> thanks for the additional info
[16:36] <tnwhitwell> seanJa: boom. nice one, i didn't think about the mount!
[16:37] <seanJA> I can't take credit for it, a friend elsewhere explained it to me, I'm a linoob lol
[16:42] <maddawg2> so is 17.04 an LTS release?
[16:42] <maddawg2> i'm guessing not yet
[16:42] <psychoticwarrior> yea im pretty suer it is
[16:42] <psychoticwarrior> sure it is
[16:43] <akik> maddawg2: no
[16:43] <maddawg2> thanks
[16:43] <akik> maddawg2: the next lts is 18.04
[16:43] <seanJA> hey tomreyn in that link you gave me, the two commands as for a "mount point" parameter, what should I be passing to it?
[16:43] <maddawg2> just making sure.. it wasnt written next to it in the download so i wanted to be sure
[16:44] <dax> LTS releases are in April of even years
[16:44] <tomreyn> seanJA: i don't know which logical volumes (lv) you have there, so far you only showed us that you have a PV (physical volume) on sda5
[16:44] <dax> so 16.04 and 18.04 are the nearest on each side of present day
[16:44] <maddawg2> gotcha
[16:44] <dax> (assuming no delays)
[16:45] <maddawg2> i just got my gigabit internet installed... it took me less than 2 minutes to download the entire ubuntu ISO....   giggity
[16:45] <tomreyn> seanJA: use 'lvs' or 'lvdisplay' to show your logical devices, 'vgs' or 'vgdisplay' for volume groups, and 'pvs' oder 'pvdisplay' for physical devices.
[16:46] <seanJA> tomreyn: nice! I think you gave me the info I need, thanks a bunch
[16:47] <user_in_trouble> Hi. I managed to mangle my ubuntu desktop by entering sudo systemctl hibernate. It won't wake up after this. The boot just stalls
[16:47] <seanJA> and i'm done! another bit of knowledge under my belt, Thanks again everyone! <3
[16:47] <seanJA> Much appreciated
[16:49] <tomreyn> seanJA: welcome. since things can get coimplex with storage media, partitions, physical and logical volumes, it can help to take a look at 'lsblk' output if you loose focus.
[16:49] <cristian_c> hi
[16:49] <tomreyn> user_in_trouble: stalls where?
[16:50] <cristian_c> after I've placed cpu, I've installed 17.04. Unfortunaterly, lm-sensors returns incorrect values for a10-7800
[16:50] <user_in_trouble> beats me. I thought the boot just stalls in blank screen. Now that it's been running for 20? minutes it once asked me about low graphic settings and is now blank
[16:50] <cristian_c> I've loaded the it87 module, but I don't know what are exactly cpu and gpu temperatures
[16:50] <user_in_trouble> I tried recovery mode and normal boot through that
[16:51] <user_in_trouble> which stalled to pretty infinite looking "checking disk 1 " or something along the lines
[16:51] <user_in_trouble> 0,0 % for really long time
[16:52] <user_in_trouble> I can get to root console from recovery boot option, if I just knew what to do
[16:52] <cristian_c> for example, using 'sensors' command I can read temp1 +12.2°C for k10temp-pci-00c3 PCI adapter
[16:52] <Mehrzad> Hi
[16:53] <Mehrzad> How can I disable/change keyboard third level switch in ubuntu?
[16:53] <psychoticwarrior> i love how you can bypass linux root password
[16:53] <cristian_c> and temp1 +12.0°C for radeon-pci-0008 PCI adapter
[16:53] <tomreyn> user_in_trouble: this sounds like you have a broken file system, possibly a broken disk. i suggest you boot the system from a live system on flash storage or optical media
[16:54] <cristian_c> but if I look at it87 super i/o section of the output I can read values as 41 °C for temp1 and 25 °C for temp3 about it8728-isa-0228 isa adapter
[16:54] <cristian_c> are there either incorrect values or do I spot not related values in the output?
[16:54] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:55] <user_in_trouble> tomreyn: ok, I'm running a radid6 setup so it should handle a disk. Could the hibernate have corrupted something?
[16:55] <n-st> hi, what should i make of this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24657200/
[16:55] <n-st> looks like ssh is segfaulting whenever someone tries to connect
[16:56] <nacc> n-st: what version of ubuntu?
[16:56] <n-st> i ran fsck -f from the initramfs, but the fs seems to be clean
[16:56] <n-st> nacc: 16.04
[16:56] <psychoticwarrior> no idea
[16:56] <nacc> n-st: in a pastebin, `apt policy libssl1.0.0` ?
[16:56] <psychoticwarrior> try reinstalling ssh
[16:57] <n-st> nacc: http://x7f.uk/cezaya
[16:57] <tomreyn> user_in_trouble: in some (rare) configurations that's possible, but maybe it was a normal regular fsck and you just didn't have enough patience. which size is the root partitioon, which file system is on it, and how long did you wait?
[16:58] <n-st> also, when rebooting the system (a KVM VPS, btw), i got a kernel panic first, but it booted fine on second attemtp
[16:59] <n-st> psychoticwarrior: sure, that might fix it, but i'd rather know why my server is dying in mysterious ways…
[17:00] <user_in_trouble> tomreyn: I can't recall, but it should'nt be anything huge. Definetely less than 200 Gb.  Should be ext4 filesystem. I'll run the recovery mode and see if the check progresses.
[17:02] <tomreyn> user_in_trouble: how long did oyu wait last time?
[17:03] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: replaced the CPU - Same same CPU ? else did you remove the old /etc/modules amd rerun the config set up ?
[17:03] <n-st> also comes with these lovely console messages: http://x7f.uk/bageza.png
[17:03] <n-st> what the heck is going on there?
[17:04] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: no, new motherboard, thanks for the answer
[17:04] <nacc> n-st: what does `uname -a` reply with?
[17:04] <n-st> nacc: Linux onn 4.4.0-75-generic #96-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 20 09:56:33 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:04] <user_in_trouble> tomreyn: not that long. I figured that I'd like to see at least 0,1% progress during the five minutes I spend waiting.
[17:04] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: and, new hdd
[17:05] <nacc> n-st: i'm not sure what's wrong, but something rather fundamental seems to be happening
[17:05] <leftyfb> n-st: try: "dmesg" to check for disk issues (I kow you already said you did a fsck)
[17:05] <n-st> nacc: i kinda suspect my vps hoster has problems with their storage. wouldn't be the first time they corrupted my virtual disk. but oddly enough, fsck -f doesn't report any problems
[17:05] <tomreyn> user_in_trouble: if the file system is not large, i would have expected the same.
[17:05] <nacc> n-st: yeah, i'd suspect underlying host issues
[17:05] <leftyfb> n-st: who is your provider?
[17:05] <n-st> leftyfb: signaltransmitter.de
[17:05] <n-st> spoiler alert: they're utter shit
[17:06] <n-st> (in terms of network speed, cpu performance, disk io rate, and support)
[17:06] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I'm unable of identifying the cpu and gpu temp values in 'sensors' output, between listed values
[17:08] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: If ya got the wrong driver loading from /etc/modules, then yeah ya get invalid data out .
[17:09] <n-st> leftyfb: nothing bad in dmesg
[17:09] <n-st> but the issue isn't new apparently: http://x7f.uk/kafuwu
[17:09] <nacc> n-st: nominally, i'd suspect memory even
[17:10] <nacc> n-st: even with a KVM, that many general protection faults is suspect
[17:10] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: ' cat /etc/modules ' .. of all that is there for drivers, you could re,ove the file and build a updated file ' sudo sensors-detect ' .
[17:10] <n-st> nacc: so reboot into memtest86 and give it a spin?
[17:11] <nacc> n-st: it's probably worth a try
[17:11] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I've looked for in www, if I don't load it87, sensors output doesn't show all the it8728-isa-0228 isa section (it includes also the cpu fan speed and voltage values)
[17:11] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: if you want, I can pastebin some examples of masures done in previous days
[17:12] <n-st> File descriptor 3 (pipe:[18615]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID 2701: /bin/sh
[17:12] <n-st> ↑ huh?
[17:13] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: it seems that sudo sensors-etect , at the end asks to add it87 line to /etc/modules
[17:13] <minkuspo> Could anyone help me with a little bash script please? :-)
[17:13] <nacc> n-st: from what context?
[17:13] <minkuspo> I'm not very familiar with the language
[17:13] <nacc> minkuspo: #bash ?
[17:14] <nacc> minkuspo: use the bash channel, that is
[17:14] <n-st> nacc: apt install memtest86+, when it regenerated the grub config
[17:14] <nacc> neinvolta: hrm
[17:14] <minkuspo> nacc #bash tells me to learn awk or bash to write my program >.<
[17:14] <nacc> neinvolta: sorry
[17:14] <nacc> n-st: hrm -- i would ocnsider just finding a new vps provider :)
[17:15] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Look and see what driver(s) is to be loaded ' cat /etc/modules ' . Then take corrective action .
[17:15] <nacc> minkuspo: did you read any of the guides in the bash channel's topic?
[17:15] <nacc> minkuspo: i believe there are also many many guides to bash programming online
[17:16] <nacc> minkuspo: as well as `man bash` itself
[17:16] <n-st> nacc: yeah, i'll definitely ditch them, but i've still got 8€ of credit :/
[17:16] <minkuspo> Yes, I have a very specific issue which I need solved pretty much now though, and I'm an end user, not a programmer.
[17:16] <nacc> n-st: i would ask for a refund, or ask for the VPS provider to support the instance
[17:17] <nacc> minkuspo: shell scripting doesn't make you a programmer :)
[17:17] <nacc> minkuspo: and being a programmer is not required for shell scripting
[17:17] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: ok, I'll try to remove the current content and I'll enter again sensors-detect. If I find again the same situation, what have I to do?
[17:18] <nacc> cristian_c: is your issue that you don't know which sensors output is the CPU temperature?
[17:18] <cristian_c> nacc: I don0t know what  values are related to cpu and gpu
[17:18] <minkuspo> nacc it takes time for me to learn those things, I'm not a very techy person, that's why I use ubuntu. Made for people, right?
[17:19] <nacc> minkuspo: you're writing a shell script! that's technical.
[17:19] <nacc> minkuspo: no, it's not going to be trivial, and yes you have to learn syntax to write a shell script.
[17:19] <nacc> minkuspo: but regardless, what are you trying to do that requires you to write a shell script?
[17:20] <codepython777> where can i get help on pulseaudio?
[17:20] <minkuspo> nacc I need to edit lots of lines in some text files, in a very specific way, could you help me with it?
[17:20] <minkuspo> I'd be very grateful :-)
[17:20] <Spec> minkuspo: you should define the problem
[17:21] <nacc> minkuspo: that's too vague
[17:21] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: lmsensors does not support ALL the sensors out there . All we can do is woek with what we have to work with . My case is not supported well at all AMD KN9 -> w83627ehf driver .
[17:21] <nacc> codepython777: here, if on ubuntu
[17:22] <codepython777> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24657435/ - any ideas how to fix this espeak error?
[17:22] <codepython777> I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[17:23] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: now, I'm trying.... , btw, cpu (and gpu) value is important because I don't know if I've applied thermal compound properly
[17:25] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: My bios relates the more accurate info .
[17:25] <Port22> can somebody point a link for ubuntu without systemd?
[17:25] <Port22> thank you
[17:26] <nacc> Port22: 14.04, otherwise it doesn't exist
[17:26] <minkuspo> I have lots of vcard files, I need to add a line "ORG: $filename" below every "FN: random name" in the file where $filename is the filename of the file, if there is no line with "ORG: random text" below "FN: random name", if there is, however, I need to remove the last character of the line "ORG: random text" and append " + $filename" after removing said character
[17:27] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I've removed the old settings and now I'm launching sensors-detect...., btw, bios measure is not very useful, I've to read temps in a running system
[17:28] <minkuspo> spec nacc does that somewhat make sense?
[17:29] <kostkon> codepython777, you can always redirect its output to some other app, e.g.  espeak "hello" --stdout | aplay   if that works. don't have espeak to test it out
[17:29] <blkadder> minkuspo Given the amount of logic involved, you probably want to write a script.
[17:29] <nacc> minkuspo: yes, and as the bash channel said, i'd learn awk. Or use python or another language.
[17:29] <nacc> minkuspo: you can't just 'make that happen' without learning some stuff.
[17:30]  * blkadder shows nacc his "easy" button.
[17:30] <codepython777> kostkon: that gives me the same error
[17:30] <nacc> codepython777: does pulse work in general on your system?
[17:31] <codepython777> nacc: if i run espeak from an xterminal logged in - it works - but not as root or from ssh
[17:31] <minkuspo> I know, I need to do it soon, and I'm an end user, so I'm not very quick with these things, so if this little script is like 1 minute work for anyone it would be very much appreciated if they could help me
[17:31] <nacc> minkuspo: it's not 1 minute work.
[17:31] <nacc> minkuspo: and asking for someone to write a script for you is not the purpose of this channel.
[17:32] <kostkon> codepython777, duh, i meant paplay sorry
[17:32] <blkadder> LOL
[17:32] <minkuspo> nacc is there a channel for that,
[17:32] <minkuspo> ?**
[17:32] <nacc> minkuspo: i doubt it, but you can search for it
[17:32] <codepython777> paplay does not work as root for sure - connection refused error is what i get
[17:32] <blkadder> A do work for free channel?
[17:32] <nacc> !alis | minkuspo
[17:32] <n-st> nacc: alright, let's see what memtest and the support guy from signaltransmitter have to say about this…
[17:32] <codepython777> kostkon: same error that i pasted when i try espeak "hello" | paplay
[17:32] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: ok, at the end of sensors-detect, it says: to load everythibg is needed, add this to /etc/modules: #chio drivers it87
[17:33] <blkadder> minkuspo You will generally find people a lot more helpful if you at least make an attempt at helping yourself.
[17:33] <kostkon> codepython777, oh, can't help you on that. I don't think you can easily access pulseaudio as root though
[17:33] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I can pastebin output of sensors-detect, if ypu want
[17:33] <nacc> n-st: good luck!
[17:33] <nacc> codepython777: don't be root.
[17:34] <nacc> codepython777: there is *no* reason to be root afaict
[17:34] <minkuspo> blkadder: I attempted googling stuff about sed and whatever could help me but all of that looks extremely complicated
[17:34] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: The script "should" have added the driver . but check and see ' cat /etc/modules ' .
[17:34] <n-st> minkuspo: s/complicated/unfamiliar/ ;)
[17:35] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: I do not mind looking ..for what good it might do .
[17:35] <nacc> codepython777: and doing espeak over ssh doesn't really make sense. You want the sound to come out the remote computer's speakers?
[17:35] <cristian_c> ah, sorry, there is also: 'Do you want to add these libes automatically to /etc/modules? (yes/NO)'
[17:35] <minkuspo> n-st: that's about the only thing I know, substitute ;P
[17:35] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: The correct reponse to adding is 'y' .:)
[17:35] <toolong> hi there makrs
[17:35] <minkuspo> I don't need to substitute anything, though, I need to add or append!
[17:36] <nacc> minkuspo: adding and appending are substitutions for nothing to something, given some context in the latter case.
[17:36] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: it87 line is added to /etc/modules, I can pastebin the file if needed
[17:37] <cristian_c> (the file doesn't contain other modules)
[17:37] <n-st> minkuspo: how much would that script be worth to you? :P
[17:37]  * n-st can always use more pizza
[17:38] <toolong> is there any fuckerborgs running ubuntu makers ?
[17:38] <blkadder> http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Awk.html with examples even!
[17:38] <nacc> !ohmy | toolong
[17:38] <toolong> hi nacc
[17:39] <Spec> minkuspo: there are websites where you can hire freelance developers for this sort of task
[17:39] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: btw, I try a reboot and then trying to enter sensors command
[17:39] <toolong> bye makr
[17:41] <hashwagon> is vfat the same thing as exfat?
[17:41] <amicrawler> my lcd very dim on boot when loading ubunut  when it goes to log on dim then it goes bright again
[17:42] <dax> hashwagon: no. vfat is traditional FAT16/FAT32. exfat is a newer Microsoft format that's much less-widely used
[17:42] <amicrawler> my video card is [AMD/ATI] RV730 GL [FirePro V5700]
[17:42] <amicrawler>  
[17:42] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Uh Huh .. that is the next step . reboot and run sensors .. see what we have .
[17:42] <hashwagon> dax: Thanks, so vfat doesn't have the same limitations as standard FAT32?
[17:43] <minkuspo> Sorry, I thought it would have been a quick and easy task .. I'm just a kid who tasted the troubles of linux then, haha.
[17:43] <amicrawler> my screen is a samsun "24
[17:43] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I see now also temp4, temp5 and temp6 in it8620-isa-0228 section of the output
[17:43] <amicrawler> has svga,dvi,hdmi
[17:43] <dax> hashwagon: as said, vfat is traditional FAT16 or FAT32 (depending on options). It has all the same restrictions.
[17:43] <amicrawler> im using dvi
[17:43] <kristhian> what does a command deb means?
[17:43] <hashwagon> dax: thank you
[17:43] <nacc> minkuspo: "the troubles of linux"? you want to do a relatively advanced task.
[17:44] <nacc> kristhian: can you rephrase?
[17:44] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: btw, I see always a similar situation: temp1 = 7.9 °C in k10temp-pci-00c3 and 8.0 °C in radeon-pci-0008
[17:45] <pavlos> kristhian: deb is the format, as well as extension of the software package format for the Debian distribution and its derivatives.
[17:45] <kristhian> i wanted to install a bitcoin's PPA
[17:45] <kristhian> https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin
[17:45] <tominator> Hey how do I log in again? It's been quite some time
[17:46] <kristhian> it says there that i could install the PPA manually using deb
[17:46] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Best I recal the k10 needs a bit of help in trnaslating the values . Been some time since I " researched" .
[17:46] <minkuspo> nacc I thought it would be something that could be done in 10-20 lines max
[17:46] <nacc> kristhian: follow the steps in 'adding this ppa to your system'
[17:46] <kristhian> but deb is not recognize by ubuntu
[17:46] <cristian_c> and in it8620-isa-0228 I see temp1 39 °C sensor = thermistor, and temp3 20 °C sensor = Intel PECI
[17:46] <nacc> kristhian: actaully read the page, it doesn't say run a command with 'deb'
[17:46] <dax> kristhian: the "Adding this PPA to your system" gives instructions for doing this...
[17:46] <nacc> kristhian: it says "This PPA can be added to your system manually by copying the lines below and adding them to your system's software sources."
[17:46] <jonfatino> Anyone know how to re-compile initrd so it supports the fetch option?
[17:47] <jonfatino> Example fetch=http://bla.bla/filesystem.squashfs
[17:47] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I understand
[17:47] <toolong> kristhian: bitcoin sucks bugtime guy left with the algorithm
[17:48] <dax> toolong: if you mean logging in to an IRC account, /msg nickserv help identify
[17:48] <dax> erm, tominator ^
[17:48] <cristian_c> fan1 detects 1834 rpm, it seems a reasonable value
[17:48] <tominator> Thanks
[17:48] <minkuspo> n-st: I'll be your skud pai sho partner for the week if you help me with it ;-)
[17:48] <toolong> why doesn't makr fuckerborg create an irc ? i know dax thanks
[17:49] <kristhian> actually i don't get exactly what a system source means
[17:49] <nacc> kristhian: /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<file>
[17:49] <nacc> kristhian: but why are you doing it manually??
[17:50] <kristhian> because of this -> No longer supports precise, due to its ancient gcc and Boost versions.
[17:50] <nacc> jonfatino: i don't think you do -- something like root=live:... or LIVE (I can't recall the syntax) shooudl just work
[17:50] <kristhian> wait
[17:50] <nacc> kristhian: are you on precise??
[17:51] <minkuspo> The person who helps me with my script will be imbued by all my precious tea-making secrets and knowledge!
[17:51] <ducasse> minkuspo: doesn't really matter how many lines it would be - it's not what this channel is for
[17:51] <nacc> minkuspo: that is not a topic for this channel, as i said
[17:51] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/aybw
[17:51] <kristhian> nacc, i don't know. is precise a version of ubuntu?
[17:52] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Still issues wuth the k10 chips ; info here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/lm_sensors .
[17:52] <kristhian> i am just new with this ubuntu, and commmand line. i am sorry
[17:52] <nacc> kristhian: yes, 12.04
[17:52] <kristhian> oh ok
[17:52] <nacc> kristhian: i don't know why you pastebin'd that? it's exactly waht's on the website for the PPA
[17:52] <nacc> kristhian: honestly, if you don't know what version of ubuntu you are on, probably adding 3rd party packages is not in your best interest
[17:53] <kristhian> nacc, i am just instructed to do this
[17:53] <kristhian> i mean to install bitcoin
[17:53] <kristhian> and that PPA is required in order for bitcoin to run
[17:54] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: so, it's confirmed that cpu and gpu are actually shown with 7 ° C and 8 °C (I mean wrong values, k10 temp pci and radeon pci)?
[17:54] <n-st> minkuspo: something like this? http://x7f.uk/takaxu
[17:54] <cristian_c> I'm reading the arch wiki, btw
[17:54] <kristhian> and i also do not know because according to guys from #bitcoin, bitcoin is slowly crashing down
[17:55] <kristhian> well for me, i just wanted this job done
[17:55] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: btw, my mb is gigabyte f2a88xm-hd3p
[17:55] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: well, we know for sure those temps are way too cold !
[17:56] <cristian_c> yep
[17:56] <nacc> kristhian: instructed by who??
[17:57] <tominator> haha li ve
[17:57] <tominator> i live
[17:57] <kristhian> by my boss
[17:57] <nacc> kristhian: and you've been told how to install it...
[17:57] <cristian_c>  Therefore, users of an AM3 processor on an AM2+ mainboard, can safely use the force=1 parameter.
[17:57] <cristian_c> my, case is about fm2+
[17:58] <minkuspo> n-st: yes! except, there are multiple lines below and above the text, so I don't know if that influences the script. Also multiple times FN: is there (and it needs to apply to those too)
[17:58] <kristhian> nacc, yes.
[17:58] <n-st> minkuspo: that should work too
[17:59] <Tom88> There we go
[17:59] <n-st> minkuspo: 02862 5880785
[17:59] <kristhian> i am just certain of things i am doing, that is why i have to ask here
[17:59] <kristhian> not certain
[17:59] <n-st> eh, not quite
[17:59] <n-st> minkuspo: http://x7f.uk/cewayu.awk
[17:59] <nacc> kristhian: what are you not certain about?
[17:59] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: btw, I've already tried the fix for Gigabyte GA-J1900N-D3V wiki section
[17:59] <Tom88> So, how do I make my Ubuntu comaptible with EFI as well as BIOS? I've done it before, but had to do a clean install
[18:00] <nacc> Tom88: you pick one or the other
[18:00] <kristhian> nacc, nevermind
[18:00] <Tom88> I've had it so it can be both
[18:00] <kristhian> it is 2 in the morning here
[18:00] <kristhian> so i better, continue this tomorrow
[18:00] <Tom88> I believe I actually went through it with Bashing-om
[18:01] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: did you read the tweaks as advised by the Archlinux wiki page ?
[18:01] <nacc> Tom88: maybe, but I don't think anyone would suggesting switching your boot mode all the time is at all sensible
[18:02] <Tom88> nacc: It is so I can just pop the drive into whatever computer and have my distro of Ubuntu
[18:03] <minkuspo> n-st: what's that number you sent me? :P
[18:03] <n-st> minkuspo: customer support of an amazon seller
[18:03] <BluesKaj> !persistent | Tom88
[18:04] <n-st> minkuspo: had it in my second clipboard from looking up the area code earlier :'D
[18:04] <Tom88> Actually I found the log from when I did it, nevermind
[18:04] <minkuspo> n-st: oh I called it and some weird german voice came out I was panicking and hung up (I'm socially awkward)
[18:05] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: he k10 temp tweak is valid only for am2+ and am3, while ga-j1900n is valid for ITE IT8620E chip
[18:05] <n-st> minkuspo: lol
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Tom88, read the second part of my post to you , it should work for your method
[18:06] <Tom88> ALright, I will check it
[18:07] <cristian_c> I've ga-f2a88xm-hd3p but sensors-detect says: Found 'ITE IT8620E Super IO Sensors' Success! (address 0x228, driver 'it87')
[18:07] <n-st> minkuspo: anyway, the script should work, you just need to run it indivually on each file to get the output separated correctly (hence the for loop)
[18:07] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: the tweak is valid but it doesn't solve the issue
[18:07] <n-st> my awk isn't new enough to support in-place modification :(
[18:07] <cristian_c> = thw incorrect temps
[18:07] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Well, you have values, just need to adjust - right ? then the process should be the same ( I would use the values that bios reports as the basis ) .
[18:08] <minkuspo> n-st: I'm going to try it now! :D
[18:08] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: I don't know exactly, unfortunately
[18:11] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: Fortunately, we can learn . But I do not have a K10 board so I can not explicitly tell you what to do .
[18:11] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, are you there ?
[18:11] <cristian_c> Bashing-om: ok, thanks, btw
[18:13] <Bashing-om> cristian_c: By the way, I am still seeking a comfortable solution to reading the sensors on my K9 board .
[18:13] <cristian_c> :)
[18:13] <minkuspo> n-st: there's one thing I don't understand yet before running though, in your example you do "$tail Apple Google" and later "for f in Apple Google" ; then it works for both of them
[18:14] <n-st> hmm?
[18:15] <arunpyasi_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24657813/ here is my dmesg .. my wifi gets disconnected time and again ! Please help
[18:15] <minkuspo> n-st: so you run 2 files for the test thing, why can't I do "for f in Apple Google Other Files Too" for the rest of the files?
[18:16] <n-st> minkuspo: you can do that
[18:16] <n-st> what i meant was that you can't just do `awk -f minkus.awk File1 File2 File`
[18:16] <generic> tail .. lol
[18:17] <n-st> the files would be processed correctly, but you'd get all changed files in a single block
[18:17] <Tom88> WOuld it be recommended to install Lubuntu on a computer that can hardly handle a live CD?
[18:17] <generic> my ubuntu crashes on apple after one byte- mad world
[18:18] <minkuspo> n-st: ah, I see, thanks! :-)
[18:18] <n-st> minkuspo: looks like awk supports output redirection, though
[18:18] <n-st> minkuspo: so you can use http://x7f.uk/puhuwe.awk like this `awk -f puhuwe.awk Apple Google` and it will create the .new files without needing the for loop
[18:19] <generic> i wonder why network-manager is unable to connect to low db networks while wpa_supplicant does the job :(
[18:20] <hiru> anyone nows a tool to change background in daemon mode? I don't want icons in dock or tray
[18:20] <hiru> knows*
[18:20] <generic> same on windows as a matter of fact
[18:23] <bogdan>  irc.p2p-network.net
[18:23] <psychoticwarrior> whats going on everybody
[18:24] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: hey
[18:25] <bogdan>  irc.p2p-network.net
[18:26] <reisi_> hi everyone! any ideas on how to install libpthread debug symbols? the library is provided by libc, and I have libc-dbg installed but perf seems to have trouble finding the symbols
[18:26] <nacc> reisi_: what version of ubuntu?
[18:26] <minkuspo> n-st: I don't think.. it works... :s
[18:27] <Shiro> hey guys
[18:27] <Shiro> Can someone help me ?
[18:27] <reisi_> nacc: xenial
[18:27] <nacc> Shiro: just ask your question about ubuntu
[18:27] <Guest98570> I'm trying to download ubuntu without cd or usb
[18:27] <Guest98570> So I'm following those steps
[18:27] <nacc> reisi_: did you ad the ddeb sources.list?
[18:27] <Guest98570> https://askubuntu.com/questions/484434/install-ubuntu-without-cd-and-usb-how
[18:27] <Guest98570> Problem is
[18:28] <Guest98570> I'm trying to but with unetbootin through windows 10
[18:28] <reisi_> nacc: ddeb with two "d"? nope, haven't heard about this one
[18:28] <Guest98570> And when I try to boot with "Unetbootin" i just have a black screen with a cursor
[18:28] <n-st> minkuspo: can you send me some example files (with personal info redacted if you wish)?
[18:28] <reisi_> nacc: ah so like in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages ?
[18:29] <Guest98570> Someone knows how to fix it ?
[18:29] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, this thing is connecting and disconnecting time and again :(
[18:30] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: anything in dmesg?
[18:30] <malkauns> how do i get rid of gnome-shells massive memory leak
[18:30]  * EriC^^ not really experienced in wifi problems
[18:30] <malkauns> 1.6GB ram used so far
[18:31] <mikeymop> malkauns: use a different de?
[18:31] <Guest98570> So, no one can help ?
[18:31] <malkauns> mikeymop: erm, hopefully theres a better solution than that
[18:31] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24657813/
[18:32] <Tom88> @Guest98570 Just stick around, when someone sees your question that knows the answer, they'll say
[18:32] <arunpyasi_> I am here alive due to bouncer only...
[18:32] <arunpyasi_> :(
[18:32] <arunpyasi_> it comes and goes
[18:32] <kyuwon> yoyo- good afternoon
[18:32] <Guest98570> Okay gonna be waiting
[18:33] <IntelCore> boot and reboot..
[18:34] <ducasse> Guest98570: most likely cause of that is that no bootloader is found
[18:34] <Tom88> Thar ya go
[18:34] <IntelCore> interrupted unetbootin?  what did you do?
[18:35] <arunpyasi_> ping
[18:35] <IntelCore> is a drive formatted?
[18:35] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, did I miss your msg ?
[18:35] <Guest98570> @ducasse what does it mean, i id something wrong ?
[18:35] <compdoc> I hate unetbootin. it changes the ubuntu installer and installs one of its own
[18:36] <sjohnson> compdoc: RufusUSB ftw
[18:36] <IntelCore> unetbootin just puts a file on windows for an install
[18:36] <compdoc> ive heard of rufus
[18:36] <jonfatino> Does anyone have a good guide
[18:36] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: https://superuser.com/questions/911635/wifi-authentication-times-out
[18:36] <akik> computer2000: rufus has a dd write mode
[18:36] <jonfatino> putting squashfs into initrd
[18:36] <Guest98570> I just did the steps until the re boot
[18:37] <akik> compdoc: rufus has a dd write mode
[18:37] <ducasse> Guest98570: i have never tried the approach you are using, got no idea how unetbootin would behave there.
[18:37] <minkuspo> n-st: this is as detailed as it goes: https://pastebin.com/JZm4dr70
[18:38] <IntelCore> if you remove that file, it wont
[18:38] <Guest98570> Bad thing I'm such a rookie in admin sys, I removed nothing
[18:38] <Guest98570> I just downloaded the iso
[18:38] <IntelCore> best
[18:38] <reisi_> nacc: thanks, I installed the full dbgsyms and perf detected those.. sadly it did not detectably reduce the amount of [unknown]s in the output
[18:38] <IntelCore> clean install
[18:39] <n-st> minkuspo: your spec had spaces after ORG: and FN: ;)
[18:39] <ducasse> Guest98570: why can't you use a usb or cd?
[18:39] <nacc> reisi_: yeah, sorry, was afk for a bit
[18:39] <Guest98570> Because I don't have, and I and saw I couldn't do it without in the internet
[18:40] <Guest98570> So..
[18:40] <kyuwon> Is there a way to add an icon into launcher bar on command line?
[18:40] <n-st> minkuspo: how's this? http://x7f.uk/sawabe.png
[18:40] <Guest98570> But if it's actually required, then I think I'll just buy one
[18:40] <n-st> i don't quite understand why you want to remove the last char of ORG:, though
[18:40] <IntelCore> win10 put tha netbootin stuff on mine, and i went thru helper here.. to fix
[18:40] <nacc> jonfatino: that is not something you generally do (squashfs in the initrd)
[18:40] <Guest98570> I could do it without*
[18:41] <nacc> n-st: minkuspo: could you possible take it elsewhere? definitively not ubuntu support at this point
[18:41] <minkuspo> n-st: you have a really cool screen there
[18:41] <n-st> nacc: hmm, you're right
[18:41] <minkuspo> n-st: can I pm you?
[18:41] <IntelCore> iso will install
[18:41] <n-st> minkuspo: yup, please do
[18:41] <freakyy> hi all. what is that new package manager called again
[18:41] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, Is Ubuntu not happy with my laptop ? Does it need another distor ?
[18:41] <freakyy> the one thats not distribution specific
[18:42] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: did you try the stuff in the link?
[18:42] <freakyy> is it flatpak?
[18:42] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, yeah, I will reboot now :D
[18:42] <arunpyasi_> and lets see what comes
[18:42] <jonfatino> nacc: this is what I am trying to do
[18:42] <jonfatino> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074035
[18:45] <Guest98570> Someone know an other way to download it without usb ? or is it required ?
[18:45] <Tom88> Guest98570: You can't use a CDROM?
[18:46] <nacc> freakyy: snap is the canonical one, flatpak is another one
[18:46] <arunpyasi_> ericnoan, I hope it will work fine now :D
[18:46] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, ^
[18:47] <Guest98570> @Tom88: Unfortunately not
[18:47] <nacc> jonfatino: but why? the initrd can load the root squashfs over the network
[18:47] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: ;)
[18:47] <jonfatino> nacc over http? how? I don't want to use nfs
[18:47] <ducasse> Guest98570: just getting a usb stick is absolutely the easiest/most foolproof way, it's useful to have one anyway
[18:47] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, does the paste in pastebin always stays in the server ? Doesn't have expiry ?
[18:47] <nacc> jonfatino: i told you hours ago, i believe root=live:http://....
[18:48] <nacc> jonfatino: the exact syntax is either live or LIVE, I can't remember
[18:48] <IntelCore> dbl click the iso
[18:50] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: nope it stays always
[18:51] <Tom88> When someone's name is solid over on the userlist, does that mean they're online?
[18:51] <nacc> Tom88: what irc client?
[18:51] <Tom88> heh....xchat
[18:52] <nacc> Tom88: hrm, dunno -- but i'm guessing it means they are not idle.
[18:52] <nacc> Tom88: 'online' doesn't really make sense in the context of an IRC client
[18:53] <Tom88> How about Messaging users? How does that work?
[18:54] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, ohh, can't we remove that ? Is it in google and stuffs ?
[18:54] <EriC^^> Tom88: gray ones are /away
[18:55] <IntelCore> .. hexed
[18:55] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: you'd have to talk to someone from the ops that might know who's in charge
[18:55] <IntelCore> pls splain deal with firewall.. is it ubuntu needed?
[18:56] <arunpyasi_> hmm OK EriC^^
[18:56] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, can be in #ubuntu-discuss ?
[18:56] <IntelCore> is there a betta firewall than this one?
[18:56] <EriC^^> arunpyasi_: #ubuntu-ops
[18:56] <ducasse> arunpyasi_: it depends on the pastebin how expiration works
[18:57] <arunpyasi_> ducasse, the ubuntu's official.
[18:57] <arunpyasi_> EriC^^, ahh ok :D Thanks !
[18:58] <reisi_> is there any way to get a more up to date version of `perf` for xenial? it's from linux-tools-common but seems to be missing features from last fall
[18:58] <Tom88> What is a good OS for a 930mhz 256mb RAM tower?
[18:58] <ducasse> arunpyasi_: you can also try #ubuntu-web, as they run the web services
[18:58] <arunpyasi_> ducasse, invalid channel.
[18:59] <EriC^^> is there an easy vnc server client thats almost apt-get install & play
[18:59] <rredd47> how much space on a usb stick do I need for 16.04 lts 32 bit?
[18:59] <Tom88> rredd47: I'd say a 4gb stick, at least
[18:59] <ducasse> arunpyasi_: try #ubuntu-website
[18:59] <EriC^^> probably 1.4gb or so
[19:00] <nacc> reisi_: you want the perf that corresponds to your kernel
[19:00] <nacc> reisi_: not the most recent perf, as it may or may not work
[19:00] <nacc> Tom88: may want to ask in a different channel
[19:00] <EriC^^> rredd47: probably 1.4gb or so for the live installer
[19:00] <nacc> rredd47: is there a reason you're choosing 32 bit as well?
[19:01] <IntelCore> i got no other.. just 4.4
[19:01] <ducasse> EriC^^: i've mostly used remmina
[19:02] <IntelCore> last distro, I had collected like 4 0r 5 generic
[19:02] <EriC^^> ducasse: thanks
[19:02] <EriC^^> ill look into it
[19:02] <rredd47> EriC^^ I am installing ubuntu iso from windows 10 to a usb stick.
[19:02] <IntelCore> Xenial removed all
[19:02] <ducasse> !who | IntelCore
[19:02] <jonfatino> nacc: Any chance I can pm you?   root=live:http:// isn't working
[19:03] <rredd47> nacc not as big a file as 64 bit
[19:03] <IntelCore> i kno, heh.. i'm so confused
[19:04] <nacc> jonfatino: try something like this: live-installer/net-image=http://192.168.1.251/ubuntu.1404.amd64/install/filesystem.squashfs
[19:04] <nacc> jonfatino: on the kernel cmdline (so in your pxe config)
[19:04] <nacc> rredd47: is it really taht big of a difference?
[19:04] <rredd47> nacc i don't know
[19:04] <jonfatino> should I still boot=casper
[19:04] <jonfatino> or boot=live
[19:04] <ioria> rredd47, they are the same
[19:05] <rredd47> ioria ok, ty
[19:05] <nacc> rredd47: i dont't think it's true, which is why i asked :)
[19:05] <ioria> 1.5
[19:05] <nacc> jonfatino: boot=casper? where are you passing that? on the kernel cmdline as well?
[19:06] <ioria> EriC^^, remmina is a client .... not server
[19:06] <reisi_> nacc: there's an open bug with c++ name mangling getting missed in the build as a build condition variable name was changed, not fixed for xenial
[19:06] <reisi_> nacc: but thanks for the heads up on needing to match kernel version
[19:06] <EriC^^> ioria: i installed xrdp now, trying it
[19:06] <ioria> EriC^^, ah, ok
[19:06] <EriC^^> (with remmina as client)
[19:07] <nacc> reisi_: is it fixed in the more recent hwe kernel + perf?
[19:07] <reisi_> nacc: yes, with zesty or whatever the 17.04 is called
[19:08] <reisi_> amazing, kernel sources come with 12MB diff
[19:09] <reisi_> oh and it even contains zfs code, interesting. haven't been keeping up with the news
[19:10] <e-vent> Got a brand new DL of Ubuntu Server getting stuck partitioning LVM
[19:10] <e-vent> Any ideas?
[19:10] <Tom88> e-vent: Could could probably set it up manually
[19:11] <e-vent> Stuck creating the Ext2 //boot  partition
[19:11] <e-vent> how do I get it out of being stuck at 33%?
[19:11] <nacc> reisi_: but not in yakkety?
[19:11] <streetwitch_> Does anyone know of an alternative to reCaptcha style bot blockers?  We can't get it running on our server.
[19:11] <nacc> reisi_: as theyakkety kernel is available to 16.04
[19:12] <Eveshka> oh there we go. think i found something
[19:12] <reisi_> oh well, i'd have to backport the rust name demangling myself ... not sure if I want it so much though. seems just that `perf` is a bit off in many ways (like not really complaining about missing symbols, like it does in every google hit on the subject)
[19:12] <Eveshka> linux noob here. problem: getting windows files onto an ext3 hard disk. tried installing portable linuxes, kinda failed. lots of problems blah blah
[19:13] <Eveshka> dont know how to mount hard drives
[19:13] <Eveshka> i have looked at things for windows to READ ext3 disks but i dont think they can write. besdies, some just dont work anyway
[19:13] <e-vent> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:13] <e-vent> Move via a live boot
[19:13] <Eveshka> i got a live boot almost working. damn small linux, but with a restricted console of about 7 commands.
[19:14] <e-vent> just get the ubuntu install on a USB
[19:14] <Eveshka> and i haven't got a clue how to mount the two devices. one is a CRU hard disk, the other is windows.
[19:14] <e-vent> boot that and mount using the file manager
[19:14] <Eveshka> i'd rather just use the console i know it sounds weird. just want help with mount really
[19:14] <reisi_> nacc: i wonder if the 17.04 has been out long enough that i should just upgrade to it? :)
[19:15] <e-vent> Strictly speaking unless you are using Ubuntu you should ask elsewhere.
[19:15] <Eveshka> btw, will the ubuntu file manager be able to read a windows hard disk?
[19:15] <Tom88> Eveshka: erm, type in "man mount" in the console
[19:15] <e-vent> Yes
[19:15] <Eveshka> ubuntu is one of the options ive been trying, so it is ubuntu related somewhat
[19:15] <e-vent> as for DSL, I don't know the procedure for it.
[19:15] <Eveshka> no manual but i haven't tried ubuntu yet.
[19:15] <Eveshka> can you give me a link to the correct ubuntu one with instructions how to do a USB boot ubunti?
[19:16] <Psil0Cybin> ?? Eveshka it should be an easy google
[19:16] <e-vent> Download Lili for windows
[19:16] <e-vent> Download the Ubuntu ISO
[19:16] <Eveshka> yeah i wouldnt be here if i failed with google.i thought i'd ask 'experts'
[19:16] <Eveshka> if you dont know how to do it, fair play.
[19:16] <Psil0Cybin> Well played.
[19:16] <e-vent> If you fail at even being able to boot ubuntu live.
[19:16] <Eveshka> LILI, could you tell me more about that?
[19:16] <e-vent> You probably shouldn't touch any linux.
[19:16] <Tom88> It's basic, and should be the first option
[19:16] <e-vent> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:17] <Eveshka> i will admit i used ubuntu once, about 10-15 years ago. it was a terrible experience. dont throw tomatoes at me.
[19:17] <e-vent> https://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[19:17] <ioria> Eveshka, what's the problem ?
[19:17] <Eveshka> oh ok. dont touch linux. beautiful freenode advice
[19:17] <e-vent> I'm not trying to be rude. But if you cannot even liveboot ubuntu you should probably stick to windows.
[19:17] <Eveshka> its ok its freenode and its linux users. i do expect abuse somewhat, but when google fails - i have to get with the wolves :p
[19:18] <Tom88> Um....
[19:18] <Eveshka> i built an arcade machine that runs on freebsd im not THAT thick
[19:18] <e-vent> Then why don't you know how to do a live USB boot stick?
[19:18] <Eveshka> the final thing im actually trying to do is get my movie onto a ext3 hard disk
[19:18] <reisi_> hmm before distribution upgrade I'd like to disable some sources ... i remember there being a "purge-ppa" tool but is there one for generic deb sources?
[19:18] <Eveshka> because thats the dolby cinema projector standard
[19:18] <Eveshka> so this isn't something i particularly want to do, but i have to do it
[19:19] <e-vent> Come on, we've told you exactly how to do it.
[19:19] <Eveshka> because i came here to see if it was even worth doing as stated earlier, the task that im trying to do
[19:19] <Tom88> ANd what OS are you running now?
[19:19] <e-vent> Live boot ubuntu, mount the disks with the file manager
[19:19] <Eveshka> yes and im going to go and do it. whats the problem?
[19:19] <e-vent> transfer the files.
[19:19] <Eveshka> why do people always challenge and belittle on irc. lol
[19:19] <Eveshka> ok do i want an ISO or is there some other form?
[19:19] <e-vent> Did you read what Lili is?
[19:19] <Eveshka> i dont know if there are varios types of UBUNTU or not
[19:19] <nacc> reisi_: 16.04.3 will be out soon enough :)
[19:19] <e-vent> Yes you want the ISO
[19:19] <Eveshka> i haven't had a chance
[19:20] <Eveshka> im too busy explaining myself
[19:20] <e-vent> Doesn't matter which one that isn't Ubuntu Server.
[19:20] <Eveshka> ok
[19:20] <Guest98570> For those interested, I solved my problem using WUBI
[19:20] <ioria> !wubi | Guest98570
[19:20] <Tom88> Eveshka: If you're so worried, get a 32bit of the latest version
[19:20] <e-vent> Solving something with WUBI
[19:20] <Eveshka> it wlil be on a 64 bit machine
[19:20] <e-vent> incredible :)
[19:20] <Eveshka> currently on windows 7
[19:20] <Tom88> Guest98570: very good!
[19:20] <ioria> Guest98570, bad choice
[19:21] <Guest98570> I used Wubi from Hakuna Matata, well... It seems to work ?... x)
[19:21] <ioria> Guest98570,  you'll see
[19:22] <e-vent> Eveshka, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[19:22] <Guest98570> You're scarying me, if, in any cases, it crashes, will I have a way to remove it ?
[19:22] <Eveshka> right download lili 5.9 megabytes right
[19:22] <ioria> Guest98570,  don't use it
[19:22] <Eveshka> 1.12 gigawattsssssssssssssssssssssss
[19:22] <Bizzeh> 1.21
[19:22] <Eveshka> thanks
[19:23] <Guest98570> Fact is it's already done ... :p
[19:23] <Eveshka> bizzeh - you passed the test.
[19:23] <Eveshka> oh great. viruses.
[19:23] <Eveshka> wonderful cheers
[19:24] <Bizzeh> also, the doc made himself look stupid saying one point twenty one... because its not one point one twenty one, its one point two one. the 1s, 10s, 100s columns are reversed after the decimal point
[19:26] <Eveshka> it says "choose your KEY"
[19:26] <Eveshka> what is a key?
[19:27] <nacc> Eveshka: what is "it"?
[19:28] <Eveshka> typical.
[19:28] <gp5st> when using bgp (openbgpd) with ipsec, how can I get SPDs for the dynamic routes ipsec?  I'm trying to set up the spd and I can't get it to work unless I pair the networks in the setkey config, but if I do that, there's no point in using bgp?
[19:29] <Eveshka> in this lili live usb ubuntu thing
[19:29] <Eveshka> it wants me to pick a hard drive for the "key"
[19:29] <ioria> !info lili
[19:29] <leftyfb> Eveshka: do you have a link explaining what lili live usb ubuntu is?
[19:29] <Tom88> Eveshka: You get out what you put into it
[19:30] <Eveshka> thats not the answer to the question
[19:30] <Eveshka> this is hopeless.
[19:30] <Eveshka> typical linux users.
[19:30] <Bizzeh> hmmn, just noticed... im watching the F1 on catchup on the channel4 website. im signed in (because i have to be), and all the adverts (actual tv adverts) are referring to me by name, spoken too...
[19:30] <leftyfb> Eveshka: we can't help you if you don't help us understand what it is you're referring to
[19:30] <Bizzeh> very clever
[19:30] <leftyfb> Eveshka: i've seriously never heard of "lili" live usb ubuntu
[19:30] <ducasse> Eveshka: that's not ubuntu, it's a windows program
[19:30] <Eveshka> yes
[19:31] <Eveshka> i know you know exactly what im trying to do
[19:31] <Tom88> Stop talking and listen, maybe you'll actually get the info you want
[19:31] <Eveshka> since you've all just recommended it
[19:31] <ioria> who ?
[19:31] <Eveshka> i told you here that im not a linux user. stop exploiting my lack of knowledge
[19:31] <leftyfb> Eveshka: sorry, I just got here. I didn't recommend anything
[19:31] <ioria> Eveshka, make a usb ? then rufus on win
[19:31] <Eveshka> .
[19:31] <Eveshka> ive just been recommended to use lili. i dont know what rufus is
[19:31] <ioria> nope
[19:31] <Eveshka> so shoudl i scrap this and do something else then get half way again?
[19:32] <Tom88> leftyfb, Eveshka wants to move a file from windows to ext3
[19:32] <Eveshka> ironic that the question mark button of the one thign i dont understand doesnt work lol
[19:32] <ioria> yes
[19:32] <Eveshka> tom - YES!
[19:32] <Eveshka> YOU GOT IT
[19:32] <ducasse> Eveshka: rufus is commonly recommended here, never heard of lili
[19:32] <leftyfb> Tom88: what does that have to do with a live installer?
[19:32] <Eveshka> and ive run out of boxes so i cant install linux on a box
[19:32] <Tom88> We've told him to use a live cd, and Lili
[19:32] <Eveshka> so i have to install some temp live usb thing.
[19:32] <Eveshka> i did this once years ago - dire results
[19:32] <Eveshka> it had a four leaf clover on it
[19:33] <ioria>  move a file from windows to ext3
[19:33] <platz> my SSD drive is doing some wierd 20 second pauses, what is going on ? https://gist.github.com/jonschoning/a66e7dabfd6acb59e1343ca6d3151ff7
[19:33] <Tom88> leftyfb, A file manager for him to use
[19:33] <Eveshka> yes its something i have to do but i dont have much experience with linux
[19:33] <Eveshka> hence why im here
[19:33] <Tom88> And we are telling you what you need to do
[19:33] <leftyfb> Eveshka: so let me make an assumption. ... you have a Windows desktop and .... where is the ext3 filesystem? On some external drive? Not on a running machine that can mount it?
[19:33] <Eveshka> well i dont understand what the KEY thing means that it wants
[19:33] <Eveshka> i cant risk clicking something if its gonna format my hard drive or something
[19:34] <Eveshka> its on an external drive
[19:34] <fallentree> how does this even remotely classify as ubuntu support?
[19:34] <Eveshka> ready for a DCP cinema package
[19:34] <leftyfb> Eveshka: ok, hold on
[19:34] <e-vent> ...
[19:34] <Eveshka> for two films ive spent 2 years making hence why i dont have much time to learn an entire OS for one tiny task.
[19:34] <e-vent> You install the live boot onto a USB key
[19:34] <leftyfb> actually, why do you need to copy something to it?
[19:34] <e-vent> or USB pen drive
[19:34] <leftyfb> e-vent: please stop
[19:34] <Eveshka> right so KEY is the linux word for USB drive. nice
[19:34] <Eveshka> well its not in the list of options its only hard drives
[19:35] <e-vent> No, that is general parlance for USB thumb stick
[19:35] <leftyfb> Eveshka: why do you need to copy something to this ext3 external drive if you don't normally have access to it?
[19:35] <ioria> !ext3
[19:35] <Tom88> Eveshka, Do you have USB drive plugged in?
[19:35] <e-vent> Don't say drive unless you mean it
[19:35] <Eveshka> its a usb stick, 3 gigs. formatted to fat32
[19:35] <Eveshka> ready to put some kidn of linux on
[19:36] <leftyfb> why?
[19:36] <Eveshka> with the help of you fine gentlemen. i tried with another flavour but it was - not good
[19:36] <leftyfb> ok, so you're not just trying to copy some files from windows to an ext3 formatted drive ... you're trying to create an ubuntu installer so you can try/run/install ubuntu?
[19:36] <leftyfb> is that correct?
[19:37]  * leftyfb taps the mic
[19:37] <leftyfb> Eveshka: ^ ?
[19:38] <Eveshka> im trying to do all of this
[19:38] <Eveshka> so that i can copy the files across
[19:38] <Eveshka> because according to google!
[19:38] <leftyfb> across where?
[19:38] <Eveshka> you cannot WRITE to ext3 hard drives on windows
[19:38] <Eveshka> only read at best - with third party software (that doesnt even work)
[19:38] <Eveshka> so ultimately - if i could, i would avoid installing linux.
[19:38] <leftyfb> incorrect
[19:38] <leftyfb> http://www.paragon-drivers.com/extfs-windows/
[19:38] <Eveshka> i have run out of machines to dedicate one machine to it
[19:38] <Eveshka> been there. i thought it said read only
[19:38] <fallentree> Eveshka: did you read the tidbit ioria gave you?
[19:38] <Eveshka> but sure i'll give it another read
[19:39] <Eveshka> i haven't had a chance, tree.
[19:39] <leftyfb> "Fast and easy read/write access to Ext2 / Ext3 / Ext4 under Windows
[19:39] <leftyfb> "
[19:39] <Eveshka> i wrote a song called fallen true. its on my first album track 8 haha
[19:39] <fallentree> actually it's allentree, f. allentree.
[19:39] <fallentree> and here, again:
[19:39] <Eveshka> i'll give it a shot and put my lili thing on hold then.
[19:39] <fallentree> !ext3 | Eveshka
[19:39] <Eveshka> im not stupid,im just tired.
[19:39] <leftyfb> fs-driver is another option
[19:39] <Eveshka> and have done too many jobs lol
[19:40] <ioria> i'am wondering why ext3 .... but it's on me alone
[19:40] <fallentree> indeedy, ubuntu can read/write ntfs just fine
[19:40] <Eveshka> so ive been given two options. which is the best?
[19:40] <leftyfb> Eveshka: can I ask. Why do you need to copy files to an ext3 formatted drive you don't normally have access to?
[19:40] <Tom88> Yeah, I don't quite get why ext3 either
[19:40] <Eveshka> yeah but i dont even remember how to mount a drive in linux.
[19:40] <Eveshka> its overkill for a simple task
[19:40] <fallentree> it's not
[19:40] <xnull> hi, how can I check on linux, to see what ram my video has?
[19:40] <fallentree> it's all automagic these days.
[19:41] <fallentree> and ubuntu base comes with ntfs3g driver so if you want manual, just "mount", done.
[19:41] <ioria> xnull, try dmesg | grep VRAM
[19:41] <leftyfb> Eveshka: can you elaborate? Maybe there's a simpler way?
[19:41] <fallentree> if you did that freebsd thing you said, you should know how to mount.
[19:41] <Eveshka> i already said lol
[19:41] <n-st> xnull: https://www.google.com/search?q=check+on+linux%2C+to+see+what+ram+my+video+has%3F
[19:41] <xnull> leftyfb: i think dmesg will say only the amount of vram,
[19:42] <leftyfb> Eveshka: not to me, I just got here
[19:42] <Eveshka> i wanna put a few files (one of them gigantic) from windows machine onto an external ext3 hard drive
[19:42] <Eveshka> thats it.
[19:42] <leftyfb> why?
[19:42] <Eveshka> so im trying this thing
[19:42] <leftyfb> why on an external ext3 drive you don't currently have read/write access to?
[19:42] <xnull> n-st: im curios who made the ram on my video, samsung or hynix
[19:42] <leftyfb> why not format the drive as fat32 or ntfs?
[19:42] <n-st> xnull: ah, misunderstood that then
[19:42] <Eveshka> eek. 10 day free trial
[19:43] <Eveshka> lol
[19:43] <Eveshka> because ext3
[19:43] <Eveshka> is the dolby cinema projector standard
[19:43] <cores> back in 2007 when I did "mount | wc -l" i'd get like 3 or 4 after a default install
[19:43] <Eveshka> for film distribution and DCP
[19:43] <cores> now i get like 20 or 30
[19:43] <leftyfb> ok, that makes sense then
[19:43] <Eveshka> although some projectors will read windows, i want it to be versatile so my film can play anywhere
[19:44] <leftyfb> Eveshka: if this is something you'll be doing somewhat regularly, you should get another machine (it could cost $5) that would be connected to this drive that you could just drag and copy these files from windows to
[19:44] <Eveshka> i intend to lol
[19:44] <Eveshka> but im kinda... drowning in machines right now
[19:44] <Eveshka> i'll have to start using them as tables
[19:45] <xnull> n-st: https://github.com/sling00/amdmeminfo found it
[19:45] <fallentree> uhm... if those windows drivers things don't work, why not pop in the ubuntu live usb and simply copy files from the windows disk to external drive? surely you've got more than one usb port...
[19:45] <leftyfb> Eveshka: a Raspberry Pi zero w costs $5, is the size of a stick of gum and would connect to this drive, you could setup samba share over your wireless network and could physically be stuck onto the side/top of the external drive
[19:46] <Eveshka> oh dont loll
[19:46] <Eveshka> reason im here is because my raspberry pi died
[19:46] <Eveshka> i cant get visuals on it anymore
[19:46] <Tom88> what.
[19:46] <Eveshka> plus i am a bit scared it might be slow
[19:46] <Eveshka> one of the files is 300 gigs
[19:46] <leftyfb> which would be done copying by now
[19:46] <Eveshka> i dont do wireless or network strangely, thats another story
[19:46] <Eveshka> you reckon a raspberry pi could do that by now? :p
[19:46] <Eveshka> well we tried with that but seems to have problems
[19:47] <Eveshka> powers up but no visuals
[19:47] <leftyfb> Eveshka: that means the SD card is done
[19:47] <leftyfb> Eveshka: make a new pi imaged sd card
[19:47] <Eveshka> OH
[19:47] <leftyfb> pi's themselves are pretty tough
[19:47] <Eveshka> tell me more - done? it ... dies over time?
[19:47] <Eveshka> its a mark 1 btw
[19:47] <Eveshka> i bought a crap one on purpose
[19:47] <leftyfb> that's a bit old
[19:47] <Eveshka> not good enough?
[19:48] <leftyfb> you'd be better off with a $5 pi zero w
[19:48] <leftyfb> it's a tiny bit faster and has wireless
[19:48] <Eveshka> ok this program doesnt work
[19:48] <Eveshka> its doing the same thing the other program did.
[19:48] <Eveshka> you run it,nothing happens
[19:48] <leftyfb> the pi3 is a lot faster, has wired network, proper usb ports and costs $35
[19:48] <Eveshka> yeah
[19:49] <Eveshka> this is more of a test
[19:49] <Eveshka> but yeah, that program is dead.
[19:49] <Eveshka> and i dont have 30 years to learn how to crack it, learn assmbly and fix it which is probably what half the people here will tell me what to do BWAHAHahahAHA
[19:49] <kyuwon> what should i do if 'Terminal' app doesn't turn up
[19:49] <kyuwon> ?
[19:49] <fallentree> are you sure? maybe it added file manager menu items... or awaits for ext3 drive to appear...
[19:49] <leftyfb> again, if this is something you're going to do regularly, the $5 - $50 investment might be worth it
[19:49] <Eveshka> AHH ITS BACK
[19:49] <Eveshka> its come to life
[19:50] <leftyfb> Eveshka: nobody here is telling you to write assembly
[19:50] <Eveshka> lefty are you SURE that it will do the job
[19:50] <Eveshka> yeah it was a joke.
[19:50] <leftyfb> Eveshka: a pi, yes
[19:50] <Eveshka> its gonna be able to read my NTSF or hwatever it is
[19:50] <leftyfb> Eveshka: I own about 20 of them myself
[19:50] <Tom88> I can second this, it'll work
[19:50] <Eveshka> AND read the EXT3, and make fast copies?
[19:50] <leftyfb> yes
[19:50] <Eveshka> without me learning assembly and binary?LOL
[19:50] <leftyfb> the pi3 is your best bet
[19:50] <leftyfb> Eveshka: yes
[19:50] <Eveshka> ok
[19:50] <leftyfb> Eveshka: /join #raspberrypi for more help with it once you get one. It's pretty damn simple
[19:50] <Eveshka> ok i got this paragon thing working
[19:52] <Eveshka> i can look at the hard disk but i dont seem to be able to interact with it
[19:52] <leftyfb> Eveshka: there's probably an option to enable read/write mode
[19:52] <leftyfb> in the software
[19:53] <Eveshka> theres "read only" which is unchecked. bugger all any other options
[19:53] <Eveshka> what a tease
[19:53] <Tom88> OKay okay
[19:53] <nem> Why am I getting highlights from Eveshka ??
[19:53] <Eveshka> dunno mate
[19:54] <Eveshka> right click dont do it either. ah man - so close
[19:54] <IntelCore> cuz u set it
[19:54] <Eveshka> i think ive jus tabout clicked every pixel on the interface
[19:54] <Eveshka> or do i have to hold my breath, spin around 3 times and then type in alt grande 225
[19:54] <Tom88> Eveshka, www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-lunix-partitions-from-windows/
[19:54] <Eveshka> ß
[19:55] <Eveshka> been there
[19:55] <Tom88> AND
[19:55] <Eveshka> "Ext2Fsd is a Windows file system driver for the Ext2, Ext3, and Ext4 file systems. It allows Windows to read Linux file systems natively"
[19:55] <Eveshka> this is the thing that someone told me to download ensuring me it could WRITE.
[19:55] <Eveshka> that description says read, as i read before i came here
[19:56] <Eveshka> oh wait thats fs, not fsd, oh man
[19:58] <IntelCore> http://muzso.hu/2012/03/28/how-to-access-read-write-an-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-in-windows
[19:58] <IntelCore> those are current options to do
[19:59] <IntelCore> i dunno write
[19:59] <hashwagon> Does ubuntu live usb have any features like clonezilla? I'm trying to backup and restore ubuntu 16.04 images from a USB drive
[19:59] <IntelCore> less u go thru networked?
[20:00] <generic> how can I set the alsa-mixer levels in ubuntu ? they are always wrong when I boot
[20:01] <Turpitude> Hello Everyone.  Would this be the place to ask a question about mapping a windows fileshare through the /etc/fstab ?
[20:01] <Tom88> hashwagon, No, but it's fairly easy to make a small CD or USB with CLonezilla live on it
[20:01] <Guest98570> Do I need to install anything before being able to execute a .bin file with "./" ?
[20:01] <Eveshka> i give up
[20:01] <Eveshka> this is a lost cause. i have no choice but to buy a raspberry or whatever
[20:01] <generic> Guest98570 try source xxx
[20:01] <Tom88> Guest98570: Negative
[20:02] <ducasse> generic: you need to set it executable, with chmod +x
[20:02] <Tom88> FInally! That guy was really something
[20:02] <ducasse> generic: sorry, bad expansion
[20:02] <generic> ducasse: jup but that's for guest98570
[20:02] <Guest98570> Yup I did it already, but it tells me he doesn't find the file
[20:02] <IntelCore> generic - so the system setting did not do?
[20:02] <Guest98570> (I made sure I'm on the right tree)
[20:03] <hashwagon> Tom88: Thanks. Anyone know if it's possible to create an image and save it onto the same USB drive clonezilla is on?
[20:03] <Tom88> Guest98570: Does the file name have spaces in it?
[20:03] <Guest98570> No
[20:03] <kikuk> hay
[20:03] <Tom88> hashwagon, Well, with some partitioning, maybe
[20:03] <generic> how can I set default mixer levels ?
[20:03] <hashwagon> Okay that's what I thought I'll see if I can get it to work
[20:04] <ducasse> Guest98570: the .bin file is in the current directory? if so, what is the _exact_ error?
[20:04] <Tom88> hashwagon, a thing I use is called Hiren's Boot CD. It has Clonezilla, a linux live environment, a WIndows live environment and loads of tools
[20:04] <Tom88> I'm actually using XChat off of it right now on an Ancient dell tower
[20:04] <hashwagon> Tom88: Awesome, that sounds very useful I'll check it out.
[20:05] <generic> IntelCore seems there is a system setting but i'm using spdif which is always disabled
[20:06] <Guest98570> It's in the current directory, the exact error is :  "bash: ./file.bin: No file or Directory"
[20:06] <tmus> Does anyone know the reason why my login screen is displayed on the laptop screen even when the system is docked and the lid closed? I'm on GDM/Gnome, but it seems people are sometimes seeing similar on lightdm. Any ideas?
[20:06] <Guest98570> (I made sure it exists)
[20:06] <generic> Guest98570: seen that too
[20:06] <Tom88> ditto
[20:07] <generic> Guest98570: try renaming it
[20:07] <ducasse> Guest98570: check the filename for typos
[20:07] <Guest98570> Okay
[20:07] <IntelCore> askubuntu.com/questions/50067/howto-save-alsamixer-settings
[20:08] <Guest98570> I renamed it with only alphabetic characters, it still doesn't work
[20:08] <Tom88> I've had my fair share of struggles with that on an ArmA server
[20:08] <Guest98570> executable files such as "a.out" works
[20:08] <generic> Guest98570: interesting because ren found it
[20:09] <Guest98570> But not this .bin :/
[20:09] <Guest98570> ren found it ?
[20:09] <generic> Guest98570: rename
[20:09] <Guest98570> Ow, yup
[20:09] <generic> Guest98570: mv
[20:09] <ducasse> Guest98570: what does 'ls -lh file.bin' say?
[20:10] <theblackhieropha> hello
[20:10] <Guest98570> It found the file, with the rights I set
[20:10] <generic> Guest98570: chmod maybe ?
[20:10] <catalase> hello
[20:10] <Guest98570> I already chmod it, with 777 to be sure
[20:11] <generic> IntelCore: thanks
[20:12] <Guest98570> Btw, it must be painfull to you to need to search my answers, how do you make yourself red to the one you're talking ?
[20:13] <Guest98570> generic: test
[20:13] <Guest98570> Think I found out
[20:13] <ducasse> Guest98570: use tab to expand the filename instead of typing it
[20:13] <Guest98570> ducasse: I'm use to do it every time
[20:13] <IntelCore> generic -  terminal this, amixer contents , find the spdif
[20:13] <Guest98570> ducasse: I retried anyway, but same result
[20:14] <IntelCore> amixer contents
[20:14] <ducasse> Guest98570: what does 'file file.bin' say?
[20:14] <IntelCore> generic - you want to try save that config..
[20:14] <IntelCore> the one 4 the spdif
[20:15] <generic> IntelCore alsactrl store ??
[20:15] <Guest98570> ducasse: "file.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable" and many other things, but I think this is the most important
[20:15] <IntelCore> yes store it
[20:15] <generic> IntelCore in asound state ?
[20:16] <pagz> 403 error when trying to apt-get install packages* thats the mirrors problem right ? https://pastebin.com/5urxM3xR
[20:16] <generic> IntelCore /etc/asound.state ?
[20:16] <IntelCore> you might put - like shown 4 the desktop icon
[20:17] <IntelCore>  identify which one is the S/PDIF control. You may have to change that control in alsamixer and check for differences in the amixer contents output before and after to find it.
[20:17] <Guest98570> ducasse: It also say "Not stripped" if that's of any importance
[20:18] <IntelCore> das awll i got
[20:18] <generic> IntelCore I have no /etc/asound.state up to now :(
[20:19] <IntelCore> set mixer - sudo su - create asound.state
[20:19] <generic> IntelCore I have no /var/lib ..
[20:19] <generic> IntelCore I have /var/lib ..
[20:19] <bonsairoot> Guest98570, do you have 32 bit libs installed?
[20:19] <Guest98570> I just tried to rename it without the extention ".bin", same result, even when I put it the extention ".sh"
[20:19] <IntelCore> any asound.state on the pc?
[20:19] <Guest98570> bonsairoot: Absolutely no idea, my ubuntu is all new
[20:20] <generic> IntelCore yes in var/lib
[20:20] <IntelCore> move
[20:20] <bonsairoot> Guest98570, See https://askubuntu.com/questions/454253/how-to-run-32-bit-app-in-ubuntu-64-bit
[20:20] <generic> IntelCore to /etc ?
[20:20] <IntelCore> y
[20:20] <bonsairoot> Guest98570, I think you might have the same problem?
[20:21] <Guest98570> bonsairoot: That's it
[20:21] <Guest98570> bonsairoot: I'm gonna follow the steps, thank you
[20:24] <Guest98570> It all works now, thx again
[20:24] <bonsairoot> you're welcome
[20:25] <nacc> Guest98570: extensions don't mean anything in linux (technically)
[20:28] <Tom88> Refresh my memory, how do I set myself as away?
[20:28] <nacc> Tom88: not really an ubuntu support topic :)
[20:28] <nacc> Tom88: it's client specific, presumably
[20:28] <IntelCore> But using .profile and amixer, no need to "sudo" and it will unmute at every session start for your login.
[20:29] <Tom88> Ah, IRC is a mysterious beast for me :P
[20:29] <Tom88> My bad
[20:29] <IntelCore> mIrc is old
[20:29] <Threads> and so is your mum but nobody is complaining
[20:30] <IntelCore> Whalead is not working it, i dont think
[20:30] <nacc> Threads: don't do that, please.
[20:32] <IntelCore> alt A  ?
[20:32] <nacc> Tom88: but usually, it's /away ...
[20:58] <elden> any ideas on getting identd to work? tried oidentd and pidentd. no joy.
[20:59] <blkadder> elden, Could you be more specific?
[21:00] <elden> I installed each one of those packages... configured them and started/enabled. they don't seem to work. I've used them before with success. I do have TCP port 113 forwarded.
[21:00] <elden> pidentd uses inetd
[21:01] <elden> oidentd is standalone
[21:01] <elden> I had an old config file that worked fine with oidentd in the past
[21:01] <elden> testing simply amounted to logging onto several IRC servers and getting no ident found messages
[21:04] <elden> oh I know
[21:04] <elden> some routers block 113 and don't let you override that
[21:04] <elden> I bet that's what's happening
[21:05] <elden> tried telnetting, which should work I think
[21:05] <elden> but it does not
[21:07] <ycyclist> Say, I have almost 2 gig in something called $HOME/.cache.  What is the standard safe way to reduce that?
[21:07] <blkadder> elden, Are you trying externally?
[21:07] <blkadder> Telnetting to 113 from outside?
[21:08] <elden> actually, right now I'm telnetting to localhost from the machine itself. that should prove my theory.
[21:08] <elden> but yes, I was trying externally
[21:09] <elden> it connects locally, not externally
[21:09] <elden> the router is probably blocking it
[21:09] <blkadder> Ah
[21:09] <blkadder> Probably.
[21:10] <elden> thanks for letting me talk it out lol
[21:10] <blkadder> HEh
[21:10] <blkadder> "You are welcome for nothing" ;-)
[21:15] <kikuk> haay
[21:16] <egc> oh hai
[21:21] <maskedpo> n-st: I'm sorry, my mentally challenged sister decided to mess up the networking cables
[21:21] <maskedpo> n-st: the pai sho with tea offer is still standing! ^_^
[21:21] <n-st> maskedpo: :)
[21:22] <maskedpo> n-st: I cannot msg you as I am not logged in
[21:23] <xiang_> /msg *status AddBindHost domain.tld
[21:23] <n-st> I've messages you, that should work
[21:25] <maskedpo> n-st: I am sending test messages but status is telling me it's not going through
[21:26] <n-st> maskedpo: i've temporarily disabled the filter, try again now
[21:36] <udn> hi guys can you help me to connect my lg cm6540 audio device via bluetooth in ubunutu?
[21:45] <chamunks> Has anyone ever written a thing to re-assert all chown/chmod settings in ubuntu?
[21:46] <nacc> chamunks: what do you mean 're-assert'?
[21:46] <nacc> chamunks: those aren't settings, those are permissions and ownership of files
[21:46] <chamunks> nacc someone is asking me how the un-screw up their FS perms.
[21:46] <nacc> chamunks: you can't easily
[21:46] <kjackd_l> Is there any way to use ethernet bonding to aggregate bandwidth? Not round robin but using a random network connection (separate networks) per new data stream?
[21:46] <nacc> chamunks: and to have screwed up their FS that badly, they had to be root
[21:47] <chamunks> nacc okay I'll just tell him to blast the machine and try not to screw it up the next time.
[21:47] <nacc> chamunks: tell them not to do things as root next time and they can use a live image to compare against
[21:47] <nacc> chamunks: or reinstall, it's probably easier
[21:47] <chamunks> nacc I haven't had chown/chmod problems like that before so I had no idea.  I know theres a button I press in Onyx that "repairs" filesystem permissions and ownerships etc to what they're supposed to be in the root of OS X
[21:48] <nacc> chamunks: no such thing in ubuntu that i'm aware of. and feels like it teaches terrible system administration.
[21:48] <chamunks> nacc I'm really surprised no ones bothered to write something like this I'm sure theres a few people who have done this in the past.
[21:48] <nacc> chamunks: so i, personally, would not recommend such a thing
[21:48] <nacc> chamunks: yep, and hopefully they only do it once :)
[21:49] <chamunks> nacc I mean this guy's some guy from comcast or something he does phone support and is learning computers at this level at 45
[21:49] <chamunks> nacc I don't think he knows really what a linux even really is.
[21:50] <chamunks> nacc sorry I've got a terrible sense of humor anyways thanks I'll just relay it to him that theres nothing.
[21:50] <nacc> chamunks: that's all great. that person should *learn* it correctly.
[21:51] <nacc> chamunks: i think i say this daily now, but if you're root on a linux machine, and you don't have backups or know how to undo something already, don't do it! :)
[21:51] <psychoticwarrior> fixed the piceport issue by adding pci=nomsi at the end of linux kernel line
[21:51] <chamunks> nacc heh luckily I'm nowhere near that level of sysadmin anymore haha I can root safely.
[22:02] <tmus> In Ubuntu 17.04 (Gnome) which uses resolved, connecting to a VPN with NM does not totally override the DNS with those of the VPN connection. Instead it seems a DNS server is selected randomly, frequently breaking all split dns setups. Any way to change this behaviour? (dnsmasq is no better)
[22:15] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[22:19] <nacc> tmus: i think there are some bugs in this area being worked
[22:23] <fallobst> hello
[22:26] <tmus> nacc, that would be awesome news. do you happen to know of a bug or something?
[22:27] <nacc> tmus: let me look
[22:29] <nacc> tmus: maybe LP: #1652525
[22:29] <nacc> tmus: there are others in the openvpn package that seem possibly relevant too
[22:31] <nacc> tmus: or LP: #1624317
[22:33] <tmus> nacc 1624317 seems right :) thanks
[22:34] <nacc> tmus: i'll see if i can make sure the right people see those
[22:38] <tmus> nacc, awesome thanks - it's been a problem for ages and hard to work (i have several vpn solutions for several customers and my own workplace). Having to deal with manual stuff for each should really not be needed and this worked fine earlier - 16.04 i believe
[22:38] <nacc> tmus: yeah, it's partially the cost of getting to a more consistent world (with my ubuntu developer hat on). But i completely get the frustration.
[22:39] <axisys> everytime I connect my laptop to work or home network, I need to rerun ``docker restart mydavmail'' .. is it possible to automate this?
[22:40] <tmus> nacc, i get it - and I'd totally accept a working hack (such as having to manually add stuff to the vpn definition to make this work)... not sure exactly where stuff beaks
[22:40] <tmus> may be network-manager or resolved or some combination...
[22:40] <tmus> thanks anyway
[22:40] <nacc> tmus: i think the last comment in LP: #1624317 has a workaround
[22:41] <nacc> tmus: but i am not sure -- my interpretation is that should be the default for BC, but like I said I need to ask other folks
[22:43] <Kabe> I am trying to get the Ubuntu laptop to connect to the Active Directory domain in my company and keep getting this error message that says  "Failed to join domain: failed to verify domain membership after joining: Access denied"... Kinit works fine... This is on Ubuntu 16.04 using SSSD and Samba... Anyone have any ideas?
[22:48] <piglit> hello
[22:48] <piglit> I can not access a old encrypted ssd
[22:48] <piglit> can anyone help me out ?
[22:49] <piglit> I did try this:
[22:49] <piglit> https://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[22:49] <piglit> but i do not have got a passphrase
[22:50] <genii> No correct passphrase, drive remains encrypted. No other way.
[22:56] <Seven_Six_Two> that's kind of the point.
[23:03] <BosiB> Hello, I'm having trouble with my built in microphone on Xubuntu 16.04. Any idea what could it be? Thank you!
[23:04] <Kabe> BosiB, did it ever work, and do you happen to run windows on the same system?
[23:05] <BosiB> Kabe, it used to work just fine when I used Ubuntu 14.04, then I just recently noticed that it wasn't working since I've installed Xubuntu 16.04.
[23:06] <Kabe> Have you tried restarting pulseaudio and plugging it out and in?
[23:06] <BosiB> Kabe, how do I do that?
[23:08] <Kabe> pulseaudio -k
[23:08] <Kabe> that kills it
[23:08] <Kabe> pulseaudio -D
[23:08] <Kabe> should restart it
[23:09] <Kabe> you can run pacmd
[23:09] <BosiB> Kabe, daemon failure once I did -D
[23:09] <Kabe> then list-sources to see if the mic is there
[23:10] <Kabe> what does pulseaudio say when you just type that in?
[23:10] <Kabe> it should say something like...
[23:11] <Kabe> [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[23:11] <BosiB> Kabe, quite long outcome, but it does mention my built in microphone
[23:11] <Kabe> one last thing to maybe che k
[23:12] <Kabe> run the command alsamixer in the terminal
[23:12] <BosiB> Kabe, it says Daemon already running
[23:12] <Kabe> that should in theory bring up a soundcard control pannel
[23:12] <Kabe> there should be mic boost controls etc
[23:12] <Kabe> as well as features like auto-mute if your card supports it
[23:12] <Kabe> maybe one of those settings are the problem.
[23:12] <tmus> nacc, that workaround is for running openvpn outside of NetworkManager... I'd need to come up with a manageable way to the the same for vpnc, openconnect and pptp... I'd much rather figure out how to make network-manager (or resolved) override all previously set dns-servers with the VPN ones. That would be useful
[23:13] <BosiB> Kabe, internal mic is set to 100%
[23:13] <nacc> tmus: oh you want one dns server (or some set of them) for all connections?
[23:13] <tmus> nacc, as a workaround
[23:13] <tmus> :)
[23:13] <nacc> tmus: i'd ask in the bug, i've asked the systemd folks to look into it, but might not be until next week
[23:13] <Alumin> is /etc/issue managed by any system scripts, or can/should I just edit it directly?
[23:14] <nacc> Alumin: why would you edit it?
[23:14] <tmus> nacc, cool. thanks :)
[23:14] <BosiB> Kabe, it is so odd... it seems like it is installed and all, but it won't get any signal in on the pulseaudio config thing...
[23:15] <Kabe> here is maybe a good place to look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/508221/sound-input-device-microphone-not-working
[23:15] <Kabe> someone mentions pavucontrol as a possible fix
[23:15] <Kabe> as it might just be that it's not being assigned.
[23:15] <Alumin> nacc: maybe I want k-RaD ANSi art in my pre-login prompt.  Maybe I want to display an offensive fortune cookie.  Who knows?
[23:16] <Alumin> actually now that I think about it, ANSI art does sound kinda fun
[23:16] <nacc> Alumin: fortune cookies are better placed in motd
[23:16] <backbox> f
[23:16] <nacc> Alumin: afaict
[23:16] <nacc> Alumin: read `man issue` for the intent of the file, you can edit it, but it's pretty uncommon
[23:17] <Alumin> yeah, I just thought it might be like resolv.conf or GRUB's menu.lst where it's generated by something else
[23:17] <nacc> Alumin: i don't know what you mean by 'system scripts' in this context
[23:17] <nacc> Alumin: oh, no, it's not generated
[23:17] <Alumin> cool, thanks
[23:18] <Alumin> for the record, the problem being solved is to display the machine's IP on the console so that when it loses its DHCP lease, someone who doesn't have access to the box but _does_ have access to our DNS zone can update the A record :)
[23:19] <Alumin> and before you say dynamic DNS...I KNOW.  I also know about static IP assignment.  I'm not the network admin.  :)
[23:20] <Alumin> you'd think with eleventy billion IPs in the 10.0.0.0/8 address space we could have static IPs.  But no.
[23:27] <psychoticwarrior> wish i could change it to dynamic ip address. How would I change my modem to different ip address WAN
[23:43] <energizer> My computer has been running super low today. How can I figure out why?
[23:45] <apes> Alumin: Add a dhcp client hook to update DNS for you
[23:45] <apes> Also, static IPs don't work for scaling clusters
[23:46] <Alumin> hmm that's a good idea...not that running an hourly cron job is going to slow the system down, but doing it from DHCP would be more efficient
[23:47] <Alumin> updating DNS directly isn't an option, there's no API for it.  I mean, unless I wanted to write some kind of shell script to screen scrape the Web interface
[23:47] <Alumin> which I don't :)
[23:47] <mate_> e
[23:48] <apes> Alumin: I'm guessing it's some kind of BIND compatible DNS server? Use nsupdate
[23:48] <saliak_> I’m trying to setup a bridge so I can create a openvpn bridge to access my LAN on the road
[23:48] <saliak_> anyone have a good resource they’d recommend?
[23:48] <saliak_> never done ethernet bridging before
[23:48] <blkadder> The Openvpn docs?
[23:48] <blkadder> They cover this.
[23:48] <saliak_> ok, yeah, that’s what i’ve been looking at
[23:49] <saliak_> http://www.shorewall.org/bridge-Shorewall-perl.html#Bridge
[23:49] <blkadder> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/BridgingAndRouting
[23:50] <blkadder> That doc you posted looks pretty dated.
[23:50] <blkadder> And I am not sure what "shorewall" is.
[23:51] <blkadder> Is that the tool you are using?
[23:51] <saliak_> shorewall is the firewall i’m using
[23:51] <blkadder> I see.
[23:52] <GabrielC> will ubuntu-mate go under "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dns/gnu/ubuntu"
[23:52] <saliak_> let me read through the one you sent and see where that gets me
[23:52] <GabrielC> ?
[23:53] <blkadder> saliak_, Sure. When I see docs referring to kernel 2.4 and 2.6 I worry that they might not be up to date. :-)
[23:53] <saliak_> fair enough :)
[23:53] <apes> Alumin: Honestly though, if you can administrate your DHCP server, it should handling the DNS updates for you.
[23:53] <GabrielC> how do i add a key to gpg after downloading it?
[23:53] <Alumin> I can't, that's the whole point
[23:53] <Alumin> no access to DHCP, and access to DNS only through a Web interface
[23:53] <apes> I mean, if you have a netops team that can set up DDNS updates correctly on it, that's the way to go
[23:54] <GabrielC> i can answer that my self lol.. gpg --import gpgpublickey.asc
[23:55] <apes> Alumin: Are you using a cloud provider?
[23:56] <Alumin> this is at work, so I'm not a customer...I'm an employee
[23:57] <saliak_> blkadder: so, according to that link you sent, i don’t need to bridge the interfaces.  i just setup iptable rules that forward the traffic into the local network?
[23:57] <blkadder> saliak_, There are multiple ways to skin the cat.
[23:57] <saliak_> blkadder: hrm interesting
[23:57] <blkadder> You need to determine exactly what you want to accomplish and then pick the best way for you.
[23:57] <apes> Alumin: Rather than hacking all this together, I would definitely recommend you pressure the networking team to set up DDNS on the DHCP server correctly.
[23:58] <den> всем привет
[23:59] <apes> пожалуйста