[00:51]  * zmoylan-pi rebuilds second wonkiest pc to replace main pc which barfed when i tried to remove 4gb of old kernels...
[00:51] <penguin42> it barfed during kernel removal?
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> yup... took 10 hours and then got stuck in a loop trying and failing to remove some
[00:53] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Oh, I've seen some of that - although not the barf
[00:53] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Everytime dpkg removes a kernel it triggers the trigger that updates grub to regenerate the list of kernels
[00:53] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Now, because you have zillions of kernels installed that takes ages
[00:54] <zmoylan-pi> after a fsck it booted again but i'm pulling data off it to wipe and go with latest xubuntu
[01:26] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhVHMEbodI
[01:26] <daftykins> http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=12
[01:26] <daftykins> just wow at the lightning over the Channel right now
[01:29] <penguin42> we're due it tomorrow
[01:32] <acemastr> lightning? in england? (ish)
[01:33] <acemastr> that's rare lol
[01:33] <daftykins> i did see heavy rain predicted for Sunday, so since i've only just kicked off my roof water leak insurance claim now i'll have to pop home and catch it dripping :P
[01:34] <penguin42> acemastr: We do get it a few times a year
[01:39] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points it'll rain fish so you arrive home to an indoor aquariam
[01:41] <penguin42> there was another occurence of that happening in the news the other day
[01:42] <zmoylan-pi> i think that was what made it spring to mind... i haven't seen a report in donkeys age
[01:42] <zmoylan-pi> though there was that shark found inland last year i think
[01:44] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: had all those kernel packages made you hit an inode limit? :D
[01:44] <acemastr> we just get aligators crossing the road
[01:44] <acemastr> some guy ran over one on his motorcycle last week
[01:45] <zmoylan-pi> we have an infestation of foxes... :-) https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/866280440570814466/photo/1
[01:52] <penguin42> they are cute though :-)
[08:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[16:19] <daftykins> ripping out lath and plaster - things i hope to never do again
[16:53] <DJones> daftykins: Hot, sticky, bitty etc?
[17:02] <daftykins> indeed!
[17:02] <daftykins> black stuff coming out of the nose due to the dust, oy
[17:26] <DJones> Yikes
[17:41] <zmoylan-pi> i think when you hit the asbestos it's all done... :-P
[17:42] <daftykins> my Dad thinks i've been lucky not to find any XD
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> it was used _everywhere_ in the 60s...
[17:43] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM7RHrwBQIo
[17:44] <daftykins> that's my progress vid
[17:51] <zmoylan-pi> you should be wearing a breathing mask to catch the particles though... cheap at any diy place...
[17:51] <daftykins> yeah, no time for that though
[17:52] <daftykins> all done and we move on :>
[17:53] <zmoylan-pi> sez the diy enthusiast coughing up a lung...
[17:55] <daftykins> oh i'm not that at all, i just know how much in the hole i am with the contractor already!
[17:56] <zmoylan-pi> that's why they always charge an arm and a leg, they know how bad the internal organs will be... :-P
[17:56] <daftykins> they're making the apprentice do it at £22/hr
[17:57] <zmoylan-pi> how much do you charge per hour of i.t. work?
[17:57] <daftykins> originally i was just going to have thermalboard thrown on top of what was there, but i said nah tear it down - and uncovered the roof leak
[17:57] <daftykins> depends how awkward they are ;D
[17:57] <zmoylan-pi> well naturally, but how much for custards?
[17:59] <daftykins> £40/hr has been a long standing rate for old clients, up it for new work though
[20:58] <zmoylan-pi> ooops theresa may was dragged into the british airways offshoring i.t. row last year... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/24/ba_job_offshoring_gmb_union_hand_delivered_letters/
[21:02]  * penguin42 would like to know what actually went wrong before blaming them for offshoring it
[21:03] <penguin42> but saying 'the root cause was a power supply issue' - people do have this thing where they get reliant on one data centre; you should always assume data centres will fail
[21:07] <diddledan> I'm wondering if it's related to the capita datacentre failure
[21:07] <diddledan> an entire DC went offline earlier in the week
[21:08] <daftykins> British Airways didn't seem to do well today, claiming a PSU took down worldwide operations!?
[21:08] <penguin42> daftykins: I think it's more claiming they lost power as opposed to a PSU
[21:08] <zmoylan-pi> well it was like the storm problem in new york were they had the diesel generators for backup on a high story and had to hand cart the diesel fuel for a few days up umpteen flights of stairs... you only find the problems with your system when it really goes wrong
[21:10] <zmoylan-pi> who knew the elevators would stop when the power went?!
[21:10] <daftykins> could be, i kinda skipped past the heading just now reading some news
[21:48] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Yeh or the Japanese Nuclear site at Fukushima where the new electric gates wouldn't allow them to get to the fire engines
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> it's really complicated... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7WHM2rchJ0
[22:05] <penguin42> damn that's neat
[22:06] <zmoylan-pi> in our rush to replace things with new and shiny we abandon old working practical tech
[22:13] <zmoylan-pi> but you wouldn't want it were kids might try and play on it... but i reckon that's frowned upon at a nuclear plant anyway... :-P
[23:02] <DM8_> Hello. I wonder if anyone can assist. When I connect to my VPN using the network manager, the DNS lookups no longer work. /etc/resolv.conf specifies 127.0.1.1 as nameserver which is dnsmasq service. However, I need to manually add a nameserver of 192.168.1.1 which is my router before my VPN traffic will flow.
[23:09] <acemastr`> might as well use google's
[23:10] <acemastr`> not entirely sure what the question is though lol