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ahoneybunI guess I'm internet famous now: https://irc-attachments.kde.org/J7F9qWEo/file_2671.jpg00:46
ahoneybunacheronUK: clivejo00:46
ahoneybunlol00:46
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BluesKajHowdy folks11:03
acheronUKhi11:03
* acheronUK waits for kio-gdrive....11:04
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mparilloIf I install kio-gdrive, then as long as I start with Dolphin, and as long as I stay connected, I can use my GDrive as if it is one of my partitions? An if an application (say LibreOffice) uses kdialog as a file dialog, then kio-gdrive is also available from within the application?11:13
acheronUKmparillo: something like that. not tried it yet11:16
mparilloI happily use dropbox (command-line only) and I find it just works. And dropbox files are available offline.11:18
mparilloI know there are dolphin plugins for dropbox, but I just put things in the dropbox folder and it works. I don't try anything fancy like symlinks.11:19
soeedo you also have this feeling that Plasma 5.10 is smoother than 5.9 ?11:56
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I had 5.9 crash on me once but not 5.1011:56
acheronUKsoee: yes, but it would be worrying if it wasn't11:58
soee:D11:59
acheronUKplasma 5.10 release notes: runs a more roughly compared to 5.9, or no improvement. sorry guys11:59
acheronUKwould not be right ^^^11:59
acheronUK:P11:59
acheronUK* a bit12:00
acheronUKsoee ahoneybun: plasma 5.8 was a milestone in goodness, but now I think we are really getting to 'making plasma great again'12:02
* acheronUK runs12:02
soeewell there are still unpolished areas, bugs etc.12:03
soeebut the most important thing is it doesn't crash ;)12:03
soeenow if only nvidia + qt 5.9 + wayland would work and be stable -.-12:04
ahoneybunall the bug reports I make are made invalid so12:04
acheronUKindeed. that days of constant plasma 5 crashes seems gone12:04
ahoneybunacheronUK: did you see that screenshot?12:04
soeemine (related to custom activity shortcuts) is unresolved liek 1.5 year already :D12:05
acheronUKahoneybun: which?12:05
ahoneybunhttps://irc-attachments.kde.org/J7F9qWEo/file_2671.jpg12:05
acheronUKO_O12:06
BluesKajsoee,  any word on nvidia support for wayland yet ?  It appears to be stuck in limbo.12:06
ahoneybunyea weird acheronUK lol12:06
soeei don't think so :|12:06
BluesKajbummer12:06
* acheronUK wonders which packages and where that comes from12:06
soeeBluesKaj: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/818053/linux/status-of-wayland-support-/312:09
ahoneybun"only for kepler and newer."12:10
BluesKajwhat's kepler?12:12
ahoneybunguessing the name of the GPU line12:13
BluesKajdon't see it in the repos12:14
ahoneybunwould not go by that name in there12:14
ahoneybunthey go by nvidia-3**12:14
ahoneybunhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia-kepler.html12:15
ahoneybunhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler_(microarchitecture)12:15
acheronUKahoneybun: fetching from https://motd.ubuntu.com/12:16
ahoneybunI know dustin kirkland has control of ubu.one12:16
ahoneybunBluesKaj: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M.90245.0.html12:18
ahoneybunthat's my graphic card12:18
ahoneybunso it is kepler12:18
BluesKajok, nvidia kepler , then I'm out of luck.  Mine's an entry level gefororce 210...not a gamer so i settled for low powered model that doesn't require a new PSU for this old pc12:21
ahoneybunahh12:21
* ahoneybun freaks out that his bluetooth earphones work on Plasma12:21
BluesKajahoneybun,  cool , using pulseaudio ?12:22
soeei'm on 106012:22
ahoneybunthat's the default stuff BluesKaj12:22
ahoneybunsoee: should work to that post but no idea12:22
soeebut on laptop 650M :D12:23
acheronUKsoee: good for you12:23
* acheronUK eyes go green12:23
BluesKajyes, i don't use PA, intel hda and alsa do the job12:23
ahoneybunPA is the default so works12:23
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk newest babe build12:24
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x820) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/OU1QgXGC/file_2673.jpg12:24
BluesKajanother Poettering tiumphant impoisition 12:25
BluesKajtriumphant...he has alot of fans in high places, unfortunately12:25
BluesKajbut I digress12:26
ahoneybunanyone up for BBB?12:27
acheronUKafraid not I'm having a glass of wine and watching the Monaco Grande Prix12:30
BluesKajGreg Allman R.I.P 12:32
ahoneybunacheronUK: http://imgur.com/GU1U9jP12:33
ahoneybunalso https://phabricator.kde.org/T621912:35
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/kZhuTAL0/Screenshot_20170528_083943.png12:42
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk is this safe to post online?12:42
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> why would it not be?12:44
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> The whole 5.10 thing yesterday12:44
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> that was just not wanting to adverise the presence of the pre-releease tarballs12:45
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Ahh12:45
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> we (packagers) are given privalaeged access to those, so  it's just a shout to the world at large which is the issue there12:47
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> screenshots which could be git or other release builds = no problem12:52
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I'm running out of space lol12:58
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> the darm VM's take up 40gbs on their own lol12:58
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clivejowho what why where?15:33
BluesKajyou forgot when :-)15:34
clivejohttps://irc-attachments.kde.org/J7F9qWEo/file_2671.jpg15:35
ahoneybunholy crap the Xubuntu slideshow is fancy16:16
ahoneybunwith flying text and everything16:16
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> ahoneybun: yep. and more consise. we have too many slides16:47
ahoneybunWHAT!16:51
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I keep asking for options...16:51
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> just trying to do too much I think.17:06
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> a little reluctant to get too deep into this, as I have plenty to do already. plus my html is cr*p17:07
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> Simon is bugging me to help package Qt with debian as well!17:08
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @riks words hurt17:21
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> they are not meant to. I'm just trying to be honest about it.17:22
ahoneybunI know lol17:23
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk could list what slides you think we need?17:26
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> on that phab task17:27
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> I'll try to think that out later :)17:28
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun Urgh. This slideshow is HORRIBLE to work on!20:11
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> noit your stuff. I mean generally20:11
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> 😆20:11
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zOAHn9h0/Screenshot_20170528_161216.png20:12
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> trying hard here20:12
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> just playing at the moment. reverted to the old kubuntu version and tried playing with stuff.20:12
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> not becasue I think we want to do that, but as a stable base to try things on20:13
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> the next/previous buttons need sorting!20:14
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> which is what I was playing with20:14
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> but I am losing patience. lol20:15
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> it works now no?20:15
acheronUKdidn't when I tried it20:16
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> oh, it does. but can see the icon properly and the position and size is not very intuitive20:19
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> *can't see20:19
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> yea I know it's odd since the icon is black on grey20:20
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I'm kinda liking this20:21
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hCKrDbcD/Screenshot_20170528_162128.png20:21
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk ?20:24
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> umm. not sure. looks broken20:25
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> mm20:26
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> well with the white like color the panel is hard to see20:26
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> Need to think about this. It's a hard balance to strike between being too simple, and going over the top and ending up with a 'feature tour' rather than an installer slideshow20:28
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I think Xubuntu's hits the nail on the head on that20:28
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> just intro the desktop, how to get help, and contribute20:29
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cqwifoh1/Screenshot_20170528_163014.png20:30
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk what about that20:30
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, or at least have those early on, as with speed of some installs now, having at the end may mean many people will never have a chance to see20:31
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, html header box? or still an image?20:32
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> it's all html20:32
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> no images there20:32
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> well other then the kubuntu logo20:32
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> which is using css to position20:32
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> :)20:32
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> also the slideshow I'm using is the full size one20:33
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> just changed the size in slideshow.conf20:33
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, yes, I saw we didn't match for some reason in that20:34
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I think the other slideshows are all the same size it was the use of whole images that messed me up20:34
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> as said the other day, we are not up against an immediate deadline for this, so can take some time to get it right20:35
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> well its going to at our skill of html and css lol20:35
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> can do some real builds in a ppa and test in actual installs as well20:36
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> what?20:36
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> how20:36
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> before we submit merges20:36
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> you would have to make a new iso20:37
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, no. you could upload to a ppa, add that ppa to the live session and upgrade the slideshow package, then run the install20:37
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, or we could even upload to the KCI ppa, and spin a KCI iso with the modified slideshow20:38
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> oh right20:39
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I'm still stuck on getting this box height20:39
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> maybe if you are not trying to do the things with a big background image, the testing script gives a better result, but seeing your changes in the actual installer is better :)20:40
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I'm not using a big background20:40
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> just css color20:41
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, not now20:41
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> the screenshots I'm showing are not20:41
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> I meant before20:41
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> the one in the archive20:41
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> which looks not too bad on the testing script, but messed up in the real installer20:42
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> anyway. point was that as an extra QA step, we can quite easily test changes in the real installer. by one method or another20:43
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> right20:44
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/sjqOewv5/Screenshot_20170528_164413.png20:44
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> got it now20:44
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> ok. can see how you get on with this.20:45
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> what?20:46
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> I'm resisting doing too much as (a) I don't like this code and (b) my natural tendancy would be to try to take over and do it all my way :P20:47
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> it would be easier to start all over most likely20:47
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> but maybe harder to get it started20:47
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> easier down the line20:47
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, I did wonder that. as the original was out of date, but not too bad a base20:48
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I took the Ubuntu Bungie one as a base20:48
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> I like that typo. lol20:49
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Budgie?20:49
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/wkt9y7sp/Screenshot_20170528_164915.png20:49
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> thats the normal slide color20:49
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> maybe that could be a communitty event? ubuntu Bungie?20:49
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I'm finding how much I hate that Kate won't let you pull tabs out into new windows20:50
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I love that in every browser20:50
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> seems I broke kickoff lol20:53
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> @acheronuk http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24695241/20:54
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> 😆20:54
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9jpiE3Ih/Screenshot_20170528_165638.png20:56
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, it won't be when we have plasma 5.10 😋20:58
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> 😆20:58
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> more neutral sceenshot that won't date maybe?20:58
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> welll the join the game one21:03
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> but I'm working on making an Applications slide in a bit21:03
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> something about the font and font rendering bothers me as well, but dunno how to improve that21:05
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> that's the scaling21:05
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