[04:27] good morning to all === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [06:09] \o [07:35] morning guys [07:37] hiya EriC^^ :) [07:37] hi ducasse :) [07:37] all good? [07:39] yes thanks, yourself? [07:41] i'm ok, thanks. [07:42] all quiet here today, thankfully not super-hot like the last week :) [08:33] EriC^^: you know much about the nvidia drivers/3d accel? [08:34] ducasse: nope not much [08:37] me neither, not much more i can do for this guy... [08:38] "yes, this *should* have been working" isn't very helpful :D [08:51] hi all. is there any good ubuntu news site other than omgubuntu.co.uk? [10:55] freakyy: http://www.webupd8.org/ [11:03] Howdy folks [12:29] Greg Allman R.I.P ..... [15:59] damn my brand new mb is acting up suddenly, the uefi list boot menu went missing and the bios is glitching and getting chinese characters and menus on top of eachother [16:00] msi z170a pro [16:00] O_O [16:00] i emailed the guys i got it from to see if there's a warranty [16:00] load defaults? [16:00] hey daftykins [16:00] hi :D [16:01] pull out battery and reset? [16:01] im kind of scared to screw it up further [16:01] uh oh [16:02] howd the uefi list go missing, it actually wouldn't boot when i turned it off, after i unplugged everything and put it back it turned on [16:02] EriC^^, i hope it is not the solarflare .. http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html [16:02] hrmm was the source a little shady? [16:02] lol oerheks [16:02] that you bought it from [16:02] nope, it's pretty reputable online parts company [16:02] ah that's good [16:03] hasn't msi got a bit of a shady reputation with linux, or is that a thing of the past? [16:03] it works ok right now i guess, but i might need some settings later in the bios [16:04] this one behaved pretty well when it came to uefi and stuff [16:04] i wonder if i can still boot live usb's i'll give it a try [16:06] if there's no other boot device connected it should fall back, unless it's really bricked [16:06] did you do anything with efibootmgr before this happened, btw? [16:07] yup its working, i had to reorganize the list in the bios so the usb's before the hdd [16:07] it just reminds me of a bug back in wily... [16:08] just the boot menu is gone, the entries are still in efibootmgr -v btw, just the list is empty when it starts and says "Enter setup" that's about it [16:08] weird [16:09] MSI are a brand i avoid for mobos tbh [16:09] ducasse: nope nothing, all i did was carry the mb to my room, when i put it on the table the psu hit the edge of it and bent a little pin for a cpu fan, i fixed it straight again, then i booted it, and it went into windows somehow(ubuntu's first in the uefi) then i restarted and tried the boot menu and nothing, then i turned it off and it wouldn't start anymore [16:09] Asus fanboy :> [16:09] +1 daftykins [16:09] also i was trying to undervolt the gpu and overclock it using msi afterburner, i dont think that's related though [16:09] heh GPU clocking is always a waste of time :) [16:10] in fact i'd say overclocking in general [16:10] it's for a miner i'm making.. i've.. i dunno :D [16:10] it's a good extra side pocket money kind of thing [16:10] heh i always heard that stuff was only profitable if you don't pay for power [16:11] nah it depends on the coin, bitcoin mining is screwed cause of the chinese now, i'm mining ethereum + decred (they can be dual mined at the same time) [16:11] it's gpu friendly for now [16:13] it's good maybe $400-$900 a month or something depending on difficulty and coin price [16:13] (using 6 gpu's) [16:15] O_O [16:15] did you win the lottery and not tell us? :) [16:16] i put ubuntu on it and i set it to start login and start a screen session, so it'll stay on the balcony, and i just plug in the ethernet from my laptop and ssh in and check on it stuff from time to time, or have it email what it's doing, haven't set that up yet [16:16] daftykins, maybe he found that stuff, like me [16:16] hehehe [16:16] lol no, i had $2000 left, i used them to get the pc [16:16] if it blows up i'm screwed [16:18] :) [16:19] well, best of luck :) [16:19] thanks :D [16:19] i'm catching up on my invoicing whilst i'm at home-home [16:20] i saw you liked being at the hotel, though? :) [16:20] ooh yes, finally swam in the pool the other day [16:21] i'll walk back up shortly, just getting a few things done [16:23] hmm somebody online is saying something very similar to mine, they say try to reseat the ram [16:23] ugh i gotta pee, that means i have to go to the hotel beside me :P [16:23] https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533292-msi-bios-glitching/ [16:23] you wouldn't even get POST if that were the case o0 [16:23] but ah well, not much effort to try :) [16:23] or maybe gpu, i have 6 of them so i can try another xD [16:23] hahaha [16:23] what are they all? [16:23] (it's running on 2 right now til i get risers) [16:23] gigabyte gaming rx570 4g [16:24] ooh [16:24] they're not so expensive, i got $215/each [16:24] you got a meaty PSU for all of those? [16:24] yup 2 730w psu's [16:25] could it be that i charged the motherboard components with my hand or something? [16:25] static discharge? [16:26] possible [16:26] never seen the result myself, but some folks are more staticy than others :> [16:26] or flaky grounding of your rig [16:28] what kind of psu, btw? [16:43] bbiab [16:48] my diner smells fishy .... wait those *are* fishsticks :-D [16:53] XD [16:59] nope it's not the ram or gpu [16:59] the psu is a thermaltake [16:59] i think i'm going to wait for their reply [16:59] if they dont replace it then i'll try reflashing it i guess, i'm probably going to need to change those bios settings for 6gpu's to work [17:00] hmm i wouldn't flash unless you remove all non-essential hardware [17:00] try running like 1 x RAM DIMM and 1 x graphics card etc :) [17:02] right now it has 1 x ram and 1 x graphics card [17:02] ah and still misbehaving? [17:02] i think it's some hardware related fault, cause the uefi list is missing so it's not graphics related i guess [17:02] yeah [17:03] my old hp laptop did something similar, after couple years the uefi stopped working and the list was gone, if i set it to legacy it still works, it's odd [17:03] i read some people had the problem 2-3 days after buying theirs [17:03] must be that evil Linux [17:03] ;D [17:03] haha [17:03] surely [17:03] :D [17:08] lol - "if i can upgrade my kernel on gentoo from 2.x to 4.x then why would upgrading 16.04 to 17.04 cause problems?" [17:09] waaaaat [17:09] you know when you've been gentoo'd [17:10] ok guys, leaving the delight of a fast connection and PC and walking back to the hotel to watch the baseball game over my MiFi device! catch y'later ;) [17:10] have fun! [17:10] thank yeeee [17:51] oh boy [17:52] i reset the cmos battery and now it says "error on end of post message to ME, ehci disabled, booting anyway" and windows just says preparing stuff and diagnosing and whatnot [17:52] sounds like your SATA mode just got changed or something [17:53] i did notice it was set to raid earlier and i put it back to ahci [17:53] i'll try with raid, maybe it was like that when i installed stuff, i remember setting to ahci though i dunno might have made a mistake at some point [17:54] i have to admit though, this pc stuff is pretty interesting and fun [17:54] :D [17:54] first time i've ever reset a cmos battery and stuff like that :D [17:54] building pc's are fun [17:54] ah you normally don't touch the battery, just toggle the jumper on the board [17:55] i couldn't find anything like that :D [17:55] be in your manual :) [17:55] youtube vs manual [17:55] 3 pins with a little jumper plugged in [17:55] it was hard, i've become lazy cause of youtube [17:56] i find the videos on there too editorialised, full of junk like intro sequences and time wasting :) [17:56] some are really good [17:56] i've been watching a lot on the universe and stuff like that, it's pretty interesting stuff [17:57] windows booted! yay [17:57] !cookie | daftykins [17:57] daftykins: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [17:59] :) [17:59] :) [18:03] good evening to all [18:03] evening lotuspsychje [18:03] hey EriC^^ [18:04] EriC^^: how are you tonight? [18:04] hi lotuspsychje - long time, !c :) [18:04] hey hey ducasse :p [18:04] lotuspsychje: good thanks, you? [18:04] ducasse: had to work alot [18:04] hi hi \o [18:05] hey daftykins full house here :p [18:05] :D :D [18:05] EriC^^: great, but not too much time for my biz [18:05] d'aww [18:05] but i had my first few invoices [18:05] so its going up! [18:06] EriC^^: ehci is usb stuff, iirc [18:06] \o/ [18:06] lotuspsychje: tool [18:06] EriC^^: xhci is usb3 [18:06] clevo barebone is on its way to me, to be configged [18:06] hi lotus [18:06] hey oerheks [18:07] i'm going to try to reflash this suckers [18:07] *sucker [18:07] i'd probably memtest it first to see if it's trustworthy [18:07] and make sure you'd not putting a beta on :D [18:08] and there is our famous helper, intelcore ... [18:08] *hide* [18:08] oh dear... random comments from left coming up... [18:09] :D [18:09] oerheks: thats from this morning he's been spamming stuff randomly [18:09] togheter with his spamming friend psychoticwarrior [18:10] yes, 'i want to win' attitude [18:10] lol [18:10] lotuspsychje: this morning? nono, they've been doing this for days now. [18:11] LoLz mint.. [18:11] reflashed it, it's still doing it :/ [18:12] i'm not going to confront him while 'birdman' is in there ;) [18:12] never interrupt a proffesional helper [18:12] *hide* [18:12] whod birdman lol [18:12] whos [18:13] the pirate captain [18:13] junnie debt [18:13] lol [18:13] EriC^^: which symptom remains? [18:14] he asks questions , but doesn't offer advice [18:14] daftykins: the bios settings screen gets all corrupted when i go to advanced> chinese characters come and it freezes and glitches, can't change them [18:14] the uefi list is still empty too [18:15] hrmm can you video it? [18:15] the problem is that i need to go to advanced and set peg to gen1 and enable above 4g for the 6 cards to work, otherwise only 4 work [18:15] sure [18:18] oh forcing old school, oof [18:25] yup [18:27] hey BluesKaj Bashing-om [18:28] brb need to set the phone in file mode [18:28] lotuspsychje: \o ,., getting settled in here :) [18:28] hey lotuspsychje [18:30] \o Bashing-om [18:30] o/ [18:32] ducasse: daftykins -- Let's have fun .. I am almost ready - good boy that I am .. completed my monthlies - all backed up ! [18:33] :D [18:33] excellent [18:33] Bashing-om: doesn't that feel good? :) [18:33] i just bought a cheap Seagate 2TB USB 3.0 external for an offline backup at a clients [18:34] daftykins: https://vimeo.com/219294355 [18:34] nice daftykins [18:34] the menu after settings is in chinese, it isn't obvious in the video [18:34] i like seagates as storage [18:35] EriC^: hmm did it cut off too soon? i hear a click then it ends! [18:35] it froze in the end, after clicking on the menu the mouse freezes and nothing works anymore [18:35] d'aww [18:35] yup after that click it freezes [18:36] the stuff seems on top of eachother and stuff [18:36] like a spaghetti bios [18:36] very bad layout definitely [18:37] EriC^: looked like a few other graphics glitches here and there [18:37] ducasse: yup [18:37] assuming you put on the latest, maybe you can downgrade one? [18:38] * ducasse takes bets on "is mordof lying?" [18:38] hmm ill check, it's cause it might not have the "multi-graphics fix" that i need [18:38] ah [18:39] ducasse: If he persists, we make him prove it ! ( show me !) [18:40] daftykins: i found the one before this has the fix [18:40] i'll try it out [18:40] \o/ [18:41] ok Bashing-om he's persisting :-) [18:42] lol [18:43] BluesKaj: have him prove what he is booting pastebin ' cat /etc/*-release ' . Yeah ? [18:44] yeah , i already told hin it's hard to believe he didn't know which OS was on that partition [18:45] "it just came outta nowhere, maaaan!" [18:45] BluesKaj: Uh Huh - well ioria has now assumed responsibility :) [18:46] it's getting hard to follow anything with all these random comments from intelcore [18:47] ducasse: lol [18:47] ducasse: The writting is geting onto the wall that we need to properly instruct more than just one volunteer on how to be interactive in the main channel :) [18:48] ducasse: he's like noob, random troll trying to be smart and asking issues all at the same time [18:48] when will users realize that separate / and /home partitions make it so much easeir to rescue an install [18:49] :D [18:49] wow i tried the cvt screen thought what the heck maybe its the gpu [18:49] wth is dvanced start from grub? [18:49] advanced [18:49] it's working no glitching, which is odd, cause the uefi list i guess is still missing [18:50] whaaat [18:50] the uefi list isn't missing anymore, this is odd [18:50] BluesKaj: the 'advanced' menu, with recovery and older kernels, i guess [18:50] phycoticwarrior is the one that drives me up the wall . really have to watch that one that he does not give out real bad instruction , [18:50] what's the gpu and screen have to do with the uefi list [18:50] daftykins: it's working! but it doesn't make sense! [18:51] xD [18:51] that's standard grub [18:52] ok, gonna boot into debian for a while , bl [18:52] daftykins: do you think i fried some pci-e stuff when it was running "undervolted and overclocked" ? [18:53] EriC^: didn't you just downgrade the bios? or didn't you get that far? [18:53] not sure how that relates to the uefi missing when i use the gpu for screen output though.. [18:53] ducasse: nope i didn't i thought to try the cvt i saw some guy saying earlier it might be the ram or gpu [18:54] so i said what the heck i'll give it a try [18:54] it doesn't make sense though the uefi list part [18:54] Bashing-om: yesterday i was chastised when someone advised a newbie that machines with intel chips could not boot the amd64 images, and i said that was wrong :) [18:55] anyways i'm a happy man :D [18:55] EriC^: i've no idea what that connection might be :) [19:16] nutbar crazytux is over at linux looking for attention again [19:16] lol [19:17] i think crazytux brought all his brothers to main lately [19:17] "guys, what do you think of manjaro?" :D [19:18] :p [19:18] half man, half banjo [19:18] lol [19:19] :D [19:21] he'll never stick with an LTS [19:22] i think he's simulation an Os in his head [19:23] Ubuntu Cyborg edition [19:54] http://news.softpedia.com/news/that-nasty-samba-vulnerability-is-now-patched-in-all-supported-ubuntu-releases-516039.shtml [20:01] \o/ ! [20:08] bbl nite nite === JanC is now known as Guest7480 === JanC_ is now known as JanC