[08:52] morning boys and girls. [17:17] afternoon [17:18] Anyone got any tips on getting decent internet when openreach don't have any availability in the local cabinet? [17:19] afternoodlings andylockran [17:24] andylockran: I'm on Virgin [17:25] andylockran: They're customer service aint great, but the bits move fast [17:25] Yeah, i'm not in their area :( [17:26] andylockran: is your local cab problem that they only have ADSL or is it worse than that? [17:29] * penguin42 has that problem; they didn't bother fibreing up my cab because it's not got many people on [17:30] local cab has fibre & asdl [17:30] but quality is quickly deteriorating [17:32] ah, those problems seem to be almost impossible to get them to fix - is your voice signal clear? [17:37] and also, just how bad has it got (on what service?) [17:44] when you say fiber at the cab, what do you really mean by that? [17:44] backhaul so you can have VDSL services, or? [17:48] That's what I meant, (lets check andylockran's meaning as well); our cab is a passive wiring cab; no DSLAM [17:53] i'm gonna have scaffold up soon, ideal time to remove some of the 4 phone lines that run across the front of my house :) ripped out extra ones i don't use inside my place \o/ [17:54] have to be sure not to chop the neighbours one ;) [17:55] are you allowed to do that? [17:57] well in the same standard as BT, the local telco has the control over everything up to master sockets - but for unused cables there's no service 8D [17:57] so probably not, i certainly won't touch the WW2 era terminals of where these cables join onto the ones coming out of the ground [17:58] could just snip them back to close to there, though water ingress could potentially ruin them all i suppose [18:02] your wires come out of the ground? Weird.... [18:03] yep, how they should be [18:03] ours come from polls [18:03] some areas of the island have poles :) [18:03] wouldn't fancy that myself though [18:03] (cable comes up from the ground) [18:03] daftykins: Never had a problem with the use of a pole, I guess it just meant they could put in a whole bunch of houses at once [18:04] my house is about 50m from the nearest cabinet though [18:04] totally passive one again but then the exchange is about 600m behind that [18:16] daftykins: not sure. I'm on cab 33, if that means owt [18:16] want to know what to look for [18:16] not to me, i'm not in England :D [18:17] but what's your current situation, what service are you on and what do you sync at? [18:17] BT [18:17] by service i really meant which DSL technology and expected max speeds [18:18] saying: Line state: Connected [18:18] Connection time: 1 days, 12:07:01 [18:18] Downstream: 12.92 Mbps [18:18] Upstream: 771.9 Kbps [18:18] but not getting anywhere near that [18:19] have you got a proper combo filtered master socket in place, or sketchy sockets with microfilters plugged in? [18:19] proper combo filterred master socket [18:19] hrmm and the length of cable from where the line enters the property to that is of a decent standard? [18:20] also, it doesn't run near any mains wiring [18:21] all true - it's been fine since I mvoed in 5 years ago [18:21] just gradually got worse [18:26] that sync is definitely pretty bad [18:26] buuuut if it's a passive cab then it might be all you can expect [18:29] i usually like to pop the socket directly onto the pair coming into the property to confirm things [18:29] those little grey boxes they put before internal wiring is joined on