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eylulsakrecoer ovenwerks rosco2 tag me when you are here :)13:56
OvenWerksI here14:40
OvenWerksSorry to b late14:40
sakrecoerhi eylul OvenWerks19:07
sakrecoerkrytarik and everyone19:07
eylulhi19:17
sakrecoerdidn't have much to say, haven't had much time to think.19:29
sakrecoeri like the draft Ross wrote.19:30
sakrecoerthe only part that frictioned with me is "Unfortunately, as happens occasionally in the world of Free19:30
sakrecoerSoftware,19:31
sakrecoer"19:31
sakrecoerit's more inherent to voluntary work, than free software..19:31
sakrecoeri suppose we need to know where krytarik sees themselves in this new context. cfhowlett also, and maybe Jlye who seemed to show interest during 16.0419:33
sakrecoercfhowleet is very active on facebook with the page and the group19:34
krytarikI'm fine with not being on the council myself.  Also, hi!19:35
sakrecoeryou have done awesome PR too eylul, i've been wathcing you on my pocketTV19:35
sakrecoerhi krytarik :)19:35
eylulhehe thanks sakrecoer :D19:44
eylulwe all do what we can (and I agree with the wording change)19:45
eylulkrytarik it is completely up to you19:45
OvenWerksWell, hello. I think the meeting time changed :)19:51
sakrecoerhi OvenWerks :) indeed!19:52
OvenWerksJust got home...19:52
sakrecoerwb!19:52
OvenWerksHas anyone tested the new -controls?19:53
eylul*hides*19:54
sakrecoeri haven't yet, no :(19:54
sakrecoerbut i have undusted my production machine!19:54
sakrecoerwhich is at least one step forward since the previews 745 steps backwards19:55
sakrecoer*previous 19:55
sakrecoerlol19:55
OvenWerksI am having fun with it. People can at least easily add a USB mic.19:56
sakrecoernice!19:56
sakrecoercould it have a switch to kill alsaFW in favour of FFADO? :p19:56
sakrecoerkill=blacklist19:57
OvenWerksbeing able to use a USB mic has been my main reason for this work.. I would not use one myself, but there are a lot of people who give up on linux audio for that reason19:57
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I do not have a FW device to play with19:57
OvenWerksI do have a USB mic I got for $3 at the second hand store.19:58
sakrecoerright, we've discussed that already i think, but never managed to pair remotly with my FW thing19:58
OvenWerksI have heard that the alsa drivers are not as good as the direct to jack drivers19:59
sakrecoeri don't know, i've never benn able to use alsaFW for naything else than playback... handy for quick plug'n'play i think, but very confusing to configure and not jack friendly...20:00
sakrecoeri found how to blacklist them on arch wiki, and then everything works fine20:01
sakrecoerwith ffado20:01
sakrecoeri have to go now though...20:05
sakrecoergood to read you everyone <320:05
sakrecoerg'night o/20:05
OvenWerksgood night... 21:08
OvenWerksCool, plug a USB mic in and it shows up on jack, pull the plug it goes away.23:22
OvenWerksSo I can get the "Add as a bridged client" option to work just fine.23:24
OvenWerksJack continues to run through the whole thing. Of course any connections to the USB device get disconnected when it is pulled.23:25
OvenWerksThe other option "Make USB the new jack Master" works as well... when plugging in. Plug in a USB interface and the jack "system" device changes. As with the other, connections to the output are lost.23:28
OvenWerksHowever, unplugging the device zombyfies jackdbus. So I can get it to work... but have to kill jackdbus to do so. This means _all_ connections are lost and any connected applications may die, hang or require a reconnect.23:30
OvenWerksRG's myjackctl.sh does not work even on 16.04, I guess things have changed :)23:31
OvenWerksThe only thing I can think to make things a bit better is to provide a manual switch_master button the user can hit before unplugging their USB device.23:32
OvenWerksThere is one odd thing about the whole setup... -controls is python3 (so it works with glade/gtk3) and the dbus listener is python2 :P because python-dbus requires python2. There does not seem to be dbus API for python3 in our repos.23:38
OvenWerksHmmm, it looks like the only way is for the dbus talker to become autojack.23:59

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