[00:36] <Marieann> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <Marieann> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <Erebus3666> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <Erebus3666> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <david_9529078> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <david_9529078> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <boy16_7895162> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <boy16_7895162> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <UnTheDark1332> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <Hot_vampireman15> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <Hot_vampireman15> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:36] <luke7887> DONT USE UBUNTU 17.04 UNTIL THE LAZY FAGS OVER AT UBUNTU FIX THESE ISSUES (UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR PC TO FREEZE LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER [00:37] <ahoneybun> thanks Drone`
[01:41] <thyoo> join #netfilter
[01:54] <meno> hi
[03:46] <foxly> Having an issue, 17.04 has been great on this install for the last few weeks, but when I startup now the system hangs on the login. It's fine until I type my password and hit login. Then I can move the mouse, but nothing else changes. Any ideas? (I've restarted several times)
[03:48] <valorie> foxly: can you do control + alt + f1 or f2 or f3?
[03:48] <valorie> instead of logging in
[03:50] <foxly> Oooo yep
[03:50] <user|48143> Bug Report: System Settings > Workspace Theme > Get New Looks... not working! (Network error.(6))
[03:51] <foxly> I can console login fine with f2, thanks! That's getting somewhere
[04:00] <user|48143> Bug Report: System Settings > Workspace Theme > Get New Looks... not working! (Network error.(6))
[04:01] <valorie> foxly: you might try running `sudo apt install -f`
[04:01] <valorie> where f=fix
[04:01] <valorie> you might have had an incomplete download of some update or so
[04:03] <foxly> Ok I'll try that!
[04:08] <valorie> foxly: to get back to the login screen, if that works, do control + alt + f7 (usually)
[04:08] <foxly> Didn't seem to fix it, I'm looking at the auth.log file and I'm seeing "cannot create session: Already running a session" followed by some errors for passphrase file being wrong and failing to decrypt
[04:08] <valorie> ah
[04:08] <valorie> you have an encrypted partition
[04:08] <foxly> I know nothing about that stuff, but thought it was worth a look?
[04:08] <foxly> Ya
[04:08] <valorie> complicated, and I know little about it
[04:09] <valorie> it sounds like the session started, but as you say, is hanging half-crashed
[04:10] <foxly> The final entry (when in term) is "new sessions 5 of user" is there a way to drop all sessions?
[04:10] <valorie> I'm sure there is
[04:10] <valorie> but  I don't know enough
[04:11] <foxly> Haha no problem! Thanks for the help, got me this far! Time for more ye ol Google
[04:11] <valorie> I suggest asking in #ubuntu (bigger) or #kde -- although that is usually really quiet until business hours in Europe
[04:12] <valorie> yes, googling the error messages sometimes gives a clue
[04:17] <foxly> I think the issue is a saved session (it crashed before this happened) and I don't think I can clear that session until I decrypt the home file ( which isn't working atm) - I'll get it figured out, thanks again for the help!
[04:22] <valorie> yw, foxly
[10:05] <user|78038> how to share file between two Kubuntu system
[10:22] <hateball> user|78038: are they on the same LAN?
[10:22] <hateball> do you want a persistent share, or just sending back and forth?
[10:25] <user|78038> yes....same lan
[10:25] <user|78038> file sharing............
[10:27] <hateball> user|78038: depends what you're comfortable with I guess
[10:27] <hateball> personally I would probably use sshfs or NFS
[10:27] <hateball> !nfs
[10:29] <user|78038> what about sanba
[10:32] <hateball> !samba
[10:32] <hateball> It's much more of a headache compared to NFS, certainly if you are sharing only between *nix machines
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[17:19] <nubfilter> Hi all. I'm curious how I'd go about figuring out the cause of broken "natural scrolling", how to fix it and contribute that back to the community. I'm running kde on ubuntu 17.04.
[17:19] <nubfilter> there's a nice checkbox in settings to enable it, but for course that has no effect.
 Didn't know it was broken but best place would be #kde-devel if it is
 I imagine there should be a bug on bugs.kde.org somewhere, as I've heard that mentioned before
[20:34] <user|89858> nvidia driver
[20:34] <valorie> !nvidia
[21:52] <vimar> Hi
[21:53] <vimar> I've recently checking Kubuntu 17.04 booted from flash drive what suprise me: the screen is flashing. I wonder if even install it now
[21:56] <valorie> vimar: have you checked that your flash copy is a good copy?
[21:57] <valorie> !md5
[21:58] <vimar> valorie: I'll be honest NO. I've downloaded via unetbootin for flash version
[22:00] <valorie> worthwhile to check it just to be sure
[22:00] <valorie> sometimes the original download was faulty
[22:01] <valorie> or the write to the flash drive
[22:01] <valorie> costs nothing to check
[22:01] <valorie> :-)
[22:04] <DaemonFC> Hi, does Kubuntu still have daily updated installation media for the current stable release?
[22:07] <vimar> OK, I got into Driver Manager, It recognised Graphic card as: Nvidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] and I've 3options to use: -Nvidia Binary ver304.135 from nvidia-304, Using now NVidia binary ver 340.102 form nvidia {recommended), and 3 Using X.org Xserver.
[22:09] <vimar> can changing help?
 @DaemonFC, this? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/xenial/daily-live/current/
[22:10] <valorie> DaemonFC: sometimes updates are daily, but more often weekly or so
[22:10] <vimar> valorie: yeah I know :-) I just never had a faulty and did not expect that. I wanted just check the distro before installing.
[22:10] <valorie> the only daily ISOs are for 17.10
[22:10] <DaemonFC> No, one for Zesty I meant.
[22:11] <valorie> vimar: it's possible "nomodeset" would help you, but I don't know enough about that to guide you
[22:11] <valorie> my nvidia Just Worked
[22:11] <valorie> both the binary driver and nouveau
[22:11] <vimar> Got Ubuntu on one of the laptops and wanted check were Kubuntu went. I was out of linux for a while. Used to work with Linux since 90s to 2007.
[22:11] <vimar> I see lots changed ;-)
[22:12] <valorie> yes, the look and feel is better IMO
[22:12] <valorie> Plasma team has been doing some fabulous work
[22:12] <vimar> I will either stay with Ubuntu or go back to my loved one Xfce
[22:12]  * valorie hugs mhall119
[22:13] <DaemonFC> I feel a little squeemish about committing to install Linux on this laptop. First UEFI system I've had. Dunno what if any problems to expect.
[22:13] <vimar> sorry that Im saying it here on your channel pasl
[22:13] <valorie> vimar: this isn't religion!
[22:13] <valorie> people should use what works for them
[22:13] <DaemonFC> I already had to update my BIOS to add AHCI support because of Lenovo. :P
[22:14] <vimar> The point is I want do one laptop family friendly, kids, wifey.
[22:14] <vimar> Kubuntu  is most friendly for no geeks
[22:15] <vimar> Older son is Cool with Gnome, he just see windows at School.
[22:15] <vimar> but wife gets mad when she doesnt know how to operate my machines LOL
[22:15] <DaemonFC> vimar, It certainly seems that way these days with others shipping broken software (Wayland) and Unity being a dead end. :/
[22:16] <valorie> hmmm, well -- I would never try to change my husband to windows
[22:16] <valorie> from windows, I mean
[22:16] <valorie> for one thing, I don't want to do support on his machines!
[22:16] <valorie> but he can use my linux laptop with no problem
[22:17] <DaemonFC> After reading about/experiencing Wayland, I sure hope that Kubuntu stays away until it's *ready*. By ready, I mean not a performance drag, doesn't break hotkeys, etc.
[22:17] <vimar> but I do not want Windows
[22:17] <valorie> me either, vimar
[22:17] <valorie> DaemonFC: for sure
[22:17] <vimar> I cant concetrate to work with it
[22:17] <valorie> you can instally the wayland session to test it
[22:17] <valorie> but I've not had time to do that
[22:18] <DaemonFC> The one provided by Fedora GNOME _works_, but Wine through XWayland is a disappointment, and my hotkeys do strange things.
[22:18] <vimar> KDE even is also fine for me Im used to that.
[22:18] <valorie> I've had to use my husband's windows machine to pay bills while he was off hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, and it was a bit of a pain
[22:18] <DaemonFC> The hotkeys issue is cleared up except for my volume controls, which I have to hold down alt for some reason or they don't control the volume.
[22:18] <vimar> OK I'll try one more time and check the MD5
[22:19] <valorie> you can check the one you already have.....
[22:19] <DaemonFC> I have no doubt it'll be ready and great at some point, but from what I see, that could be 6 months to a year.
[22:20] <vimar> valorie: forgive me, you mean the one that is on Flash already?
[22:20] <valorie> DaemonFC: I think you are about right
[22:20] <valorie> vimar: sure
[22:21] <vimar> valorie: can you tell how?
[22:23] <DaemonFC> I suspect that the documentation for Powertop from Fedora is more or less accurate on Ubuntu?
[22:23] <vimar> I think ubotu gave some links at the beginning of this conversation>
[22:24] <DaemonFC> I'd like to start the service at boot and have it set all tunables to optimize battery life.
[22:24] <DaemonFC> I tried it out without the service from the Live image and noticed that with some tinkering my laptop spends most of the time in pc8, which is fantastic.
[22:26] <valorie> !md6
[22:27] <valorie> !md5
[22:27] <valorie> DaemonFC: I guess.....
[22:28] <DaemonFC> It's mostly been power management issues that have kept me on Windows 10 this long.
[22:28] <DaemonFC> Skylake Mobile until like kernel 4.8 was having a hard time getting past pc3, which Intel says is not good for your hardware. :P
[23:04] <DaemonFC> Hmm, well, it looks like power management doesn't work properly in Ubuntu (at least the live environments) on my laptop. The CPU package power state never gets past pc2.
[23:05] <DaemonFC> That's odd, because it gets to pc8 an the rest on Fedora.
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