[00:12] donofrio, lots of forumposts, you might get it working, no guarantee for your hardware, as not all drivers are available [00:13] any #bash ppl on [00:15] IntelCore: sounds like you need to visit #bash [00:20] oerheks_, yah gotta try ;) [00:35] hey y'all, I've installed ubuntu on my laptop before and am trying to install on my desktop computer. Issue is, my graphics card causes me to get a black screen after Grub. I started in nomodeset, but it also turns out that my wifi card (broadcom wireless adapter) isn't supported. I'm following a tutorial on the forums for installing it (using firmware-b43-installer), but seems to not have worked. [00:36] I'm running into an issue with a .desktop file. I created it (copied from my emacs.desktop file and changed the necessary stuff) but clicking the menu entry it makes, it says invalid desktop entry file [00:36] Issue with the no wifi is that i have to use a crappy tiny usb card to download any drivers. The signal up here isn't strong enough so I"m using my phone's hotspot to install the wifi card drivers (would rather not install the gfx card drivers over lte, data caps) [00:36] However, typing it in the terminal works fine. I mean, I can /usr/bin/my-program & it's fine. But the desktop entry pointing to the same place does not [00:37] joeelectricity: hey man. For starters which broadcom adapter do you have? (I had to help a friend with this & we could not do it) [00:38] And for enders, eh... the black screen is a known bug. I wouldn't be much help except googling for solutions [00:38] the pciid is 14e4:43a0, but the model is Broadcom BCM4360 [00:38] K one sec lemme look it up [00:40] was the tutorial you were following the one on the ask ubuntu with the table of tools? Just realized I might've misread the table [00:40] gonna try the other utility it suggests and report back [00:40] annoying thing is somehow, I used to have a working ubuntu install (albeit an older version) on this same computer, but cleared it and months later want to reinstall. No issues with graphics drivers last time, just network driver [00:42] usually I use windows for development, but I've been bitten by the Rust bug and wanted to get a real Linux machine up. Cleared my extra ssd and started an install, excited to be back on a unix machine [00:42] So far I see (old post) suggesting to use bmwl-kernel-source - but this post is ancient (2013) [00:42] yeah, I might try some other solutions if the bmwl doesnj't work [00:42] Pray it works. We spent.. I don't know, a week doing every solution we found [00:43] yeah, I'll figure something out [00:43] my setup looks pretty funny right now, though. Laptop out on desk, tiny little wifi adapter in pc, and phone basically on top of the adapter with hotspot [00:43] I think you might have better luck, his was a different chipset that didn't seem very common in that series, but yours pops up a lot of info [00:44] does a native frontend for simcity4 datafiles in ubuntu [00:44] Haha. Working setup :) [00:44] oshit!! 64 bytes from google.com [00:44] thanks for the help, bzn [00:45] No problem. It looks promising. As far as broadcom adapters go [00:46] i'm also very excited to get my vim setup on a desktop computer. Spent almost all day playing with nvim and some themes, making it look pretty. I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to linux dev (use atom on windows, slow as fuck), but this feels pretty legit [00:50] Emacs guy myself. Occasionally use vim but I don't use it vim-like, lol. No magic with keys, just editing a line or two [00:51] Not comfortable with it. Almost 20 years of emacs warped my muscle memory [00:51] I heard a rumor that Ubuntu is abandoning Unity desktop, is that true? [00:52] It's not a rumor [00:52] It's true [00:52] Moving back to the old gnome [00:52] wannabej, ahh. When? [00:52] 18.04 LTS [00:53] At least I think so [00:53] That will be the transition version [00:53] Interesting. [00:54] I never used unity anyways [00:54] so I don't care much [00:54] lol [00:55] what desktop environment do you guys use? GNOME (non-classic) feels kinda weird to me [00:55] der0, rumour? lol [00:55] it's too bad, tbh. Unity has some of the most coherent UX of any DE, and is one of the few that handles HiDPI in a way that isn't horrendous. [00:55] it was an official announcement [00:56] It's not exactly my favorite environment, but on my Compute stick attached to my TV, it's worked quite well, with the large icons and desktop. [00:56] I use xfce [00:56] and sometimes kde [00:57] All of em have their issues [00:57] I'm using Cinnamon atm, was using XFCE for everything, then got a laptop with a 4K screen and saw what XFCE looks like on that [00:57] Most of my ubuntu work is on the server side [00:59] So, anybody up for obscure Nvidia driver troubleshooting? [01:00] Gonna just keep asking every few hours, lol [01:04] That's a quick way to kill the discussion, lol [01:05] The accpetable elapsed time is 20 minutes .. I remain interested . [01:05] fishbowlkraken: whats the issue? [01:05] fishbowlkraken: and please tell me you're not on one of those dual intel-nvidia laptops [01:06] You freaking know it. [01:06] However, the Intel chip is disabled at the hardware level by BIOS [01:06] So there's that. [01:06] wannabej: fishbowlkraken Has new hardware too boot too . [01:06] Anyway, not ONLY is it an Nvidia Prime laptop, it's one so new that there's no drivers in the official repos that support it [01:06] so I have to use the graphics-drivers PPA to run it [01:06] lol [01:07] I applaud your trailblazerness [01:07] Do you exclusively run ubuntu on it? [01:07] it seems to have a documented issue (by the fact that I and at least one other person have posted about it now) that it won't actually clock the GPU above its baseline [01:07] and yeah, I exclusively use Linux on all my hardware [01:07] I [01:07] may want to look at this stuff before you buy ;) [01:08] Link to the other user experiencing the issue? [01:08] I'm not running this as some act of bravery, I just bought a new CAD workstation, and needed the newest GPU so I could actually crunch the polys [01:08] https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1010612/sluggish-performance-no-reclocking-ubuntu-17-04-kernel-4-12rc2-nvidia-quadro-m2200-driver-381-22-/ [01:08] There's no other laptops on the market that support 64GB of RAM, and this is the newest mobile Quadro on the market as well. [01:09] Fair enough [01:09] I got one of the first P51s to make landfall in the US, configured it within three hours of it first going up for sale on the site [01:09] I support some CAD junkies at work [01:09] so there wasn't much research that could be done, lol [01:10] I also needed horsepower for slicing 3D prints [01:10] So it runs like poo when forcing nvidia? [01:10] like even with simple desktop interaction [01:10] It runs like poo when running with Intel, but just as bad with only Nvidia [01:10] HAHHA [01:10] yeah, it's running the GPU at 10% [01:10] Well yes thats expected [01:11] Yeah, like, watching a Youtube video, I can't run it above 480P before I get stuttering on Cinnamon [01:11] Whats the device dected as? [01:11] Keep in mind, it's a 4K screen [01:11] oh it's detected correctly [01:11] nice [01:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24695602/ [01:11] Here's a full dump of my Xorg log [01:12] The weird thing is, it worked ONCE. [01:12] for my own insanity [01:12] please run lspci | grep VGA [01:13] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206GLM [Quadro M2200 Mobile] (rev a1) [01:14] which driver version are you using? [01:16] and does this occur on older versions of ubuntu too or just the latest? [01:16] 381 [01:16] The only two drivers to support the card are 378 and 381 [01:17] and on 378 you can't adjust brightness [01:17] There's always a way [01:17] minus the brightness issue its the same on both? [01:17] as far as older versions, not sure, but this is a Kaby Lake machine, so I'm trying to get to the newest version to avoid the random hangs [01:17] Yeah, on 378 it still won't clock AND the screen blinds me, lol [01:17] rekt [01:18] Yeah fair enough re: kaby, would be interesting to see tho [01:18] Yeah, it'd run great right until the random crash, lol [01:18] actually no idea if it would [01:18] fishbowlkraken: nvidia recommends the 375 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us . [01:18] For the M2200? [01:18] yea i mentioned 375 [01:19] Because the changelogs for 378 *specifically* say "adds support for card: M2200 [01:19] " [01:19] Those changelogs are crap [01:19] I would bet an older version that doesn't even properly detect the card would run it better than it is right now [01:19] No surprise there. I'll try it out, bbs [01:19] nvidia bundled models into new useanle driver scrips [01:20] useable [01:20] I saw a few models in application with one driver [01:21] fishbowlkraken: Yup and the card is listed " K4100M, Quadro K4000M, Quadro K3100M, Quadro K2200M," . [01:22] K2200m and M2200 are not necessarily the same thing [01:22] you have M2200 driver [01:23] http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=3732&cmp%5B%5D=3175 [01:23] Yeah, K2200m is a card from 2015, this is one from this year [01:23] iknowtayt [01:23] fishbowlkraken: true ^ but : http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us >> 375 version driver . [01:23] If you think Nvidia Geforce naming conventions are troublesome, you ain't seen nothin yet with Quadro. [01:24] Anyway, I installed it, gonna reboot. [01:24] m2200 on that sit finds 375 is [01:25] 2 days. solve drivers [01:26] Seems counter intuitive but quadro driver support is worth than the consumer lots [01:27] first i bash python la8tr [01:30] Hm, drone told me I wasn't logged in. [01:30] Trying again. [01:30] Hey, can y'all see this? [01:31] Yes [01:32] OK, I changed to the latest point release of 375, after trying the old one [01:33] Now it seems to allow me to adjust brightness. Success there. [01:33] Gonna try to run a thing to benchmark it [01:33] fishbowlkraken: :)) [01:34] Okay, I have brightness control back, but no dice graphically. [01:35] Actually, I don't have the ability to CHANGE the brightness [01:35] but it went back to the setting it had last I used it on 381 [01:35] so it's not at maximum [01:35] No friggin clue why, but hey. I can see. [01:36] fishbowlkraken: And do some work on this high dollar equipment . [01:36] still crap performance? [01:36] Absolutely. [01:37] Loaded a Unity based game from 2015 [01:37] 4FPS [01:37] I wonder if you try oc'ing it and manually setting clocks [01:37] I bet that would work [01:37] it would stress the crap out of it though [01:37] not good long term [01:37] And your lap would ignite from the heat I'm guessing [01:37] I'd rather not stress this thing, [01:38] this laptop is replacing my W530 that I bought in 2013, so I'm a fan of maintaining my hardware [01:39] How much was that? [01:39] this one or the old one? [01:40] old one was about $2500, this one was $3900 [01:40] Thats not too bad [01:42] it's not, and I have a full service warranty for two years with onsite service, so that's helpful [01:42] but again, rather not stress this thing that far [01:42] I'm going to be beating the crap out of this thing enough as it is [01:42] my old laptop's had five separate run-ins with spools of plastic weighing a kg [01:44] <_unreal_> hello, I'm trying to find my box, I need to SSH into it but I have forgotten what the IP is. I could plug a video cable in but its a PAIN to undo everything [01:44] _unreal_, Local LAN? [01:44] <_unreal_> yes [01:45] _unreal_, Can you not check your router to see what IP's are used/assigned? [01:48] wannabeJ: If this thing performed at around the level it's supposed to, the cost wouldn't be too bad. [01:48] <_unreal_> nope [01:49] unreal nmap could scan for that, like: nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24 [01:49] fishbowlkraken: I can understand your frustration, I'd be the same way - but you will prob have to either keep trying different version combos (ubuntu/driver revs) [01:49] <_unreal_> nmap thats it [01:49] fishbowlkraken, (Offtopic - if I wanted to see speed on that thing, I'd be running WindowMaker or macOS) :) [01:49] fishbowlkraken: or just hold for a new update [01:49] It's supposed to be able to go at a dead heat with an RX 460 (a desktop card, not a laptop one) for most graphics processing tasks [01:49] <_unreal_> there it is 192.168.101 [01:49] :) [01:49] (MacOS isn't really known for its driver support on hardware they don't like, lol) [01:49] <_unreal_> logging into my cubox [01:50] <_unreal_> if you have ever heard of such a thing? [01:50] fishbowlkraken, One has to *know* where to go...ahem... [01:50] <_unreal_> wow uptime 170 days [01:50] 170 days. Um...yeah...wow...so since we've helped you find it, you're buying lunch, right? Yay! [01:50] _unreal_, pfft. [01:51] Oh I know all about hackintoshes, I had a Dell Mini 9 back in the day, which was like, THE machine to hackintosh, as it almost perfectly matched the specs of a netbook platform Apple had been toying with, so it was weirdly perfectly supported [01:51] But that was a long, long time ago [01:51] I would try downgrading to the LTS version [01:51] https://dribbble.com/shots/1959852-Linux-Uptime-Record-Longest-Highest-Server-Uptime-on-Debian [01:51] The kaby lake issues will be far less than nvidia bs [01:53] Bahh. Is there a good way to do that other than just straight reinstalling? [01:53] Not really [01:53] Radda radda radda. I was hoping maybe they'd patched that up. [01:53] If you're paranoid that it won't work (legit concern), you could clone the disk as is now [01:54] Try the new version [01:54] Anything with good HiDPI support from 2016? [01:54] err try the new "old" version ;) [01:54] Actually I can just install it to the HDD and set that as the boot device [01:54] I have a 256GB SSD and a 500GB HDD [01:54] so I can just swap them in the BIOS and use that to boot up and test things [01:55] be a bit slower but meh [01:55] However, HiDPI stuff's a nightmare on even the new stuff [01:55] how bad is it on the LTS? [01:57] It won't be fun [02:03] Is there a spin of 16.04 that starts out running Cinnamon or Budgie? [02:03] Those are two that've been onboard with HiDPI from the get go [02:03] https://ubuntubudgie.org/ [02:04] fishbowlkraken, you can also install Server, and then add a desktop [02:04] Ubuntu itself only supports Ubuntu Budgie in 17.04 onwards tho, so probably not the best idea [02:05] (i.e., there are downloads on that site for 16.04, but they're not officially supported here) [02:05] Setting up WLAN from the commandline's always fun. [02:05] Oh shit, I don't even know if this thing's wireless card's supported by 16.04 [02:05] it's also fairly new [02:05] If you've got that second disk [02:05] I'd give it a whirl [02:06] yeah, guess it's my best shot. So should I just use standard Ubuntu? Anyone have experience with HiDPI on 16.04 that can tell me of one that won't be nothing but eyestrain throughout the install? [02:08] ok guys [02:08] I would do the serve rinstall [02:08] server* install [02:08] then add a desktop to it [02:08] simplest install method [02:09] Except for the whole installing WLAN drivers and connecting to one over server [02:09] ah fuggit I'll just use a cable [02:09] For the install I would use a cable [02:09] lol [02:09] Another reason to go for high end workstations, you still get an ethernet jack [02:09] I am dual-booting ubuntu with MacOS, and I am having poor sound quality (MacBookAir6-1) [02:12] Hi all, I'm attempting to configure a system with 8 monitors. [02:12] whaaaaa- [02:13] After updating the configuration with the nvidia-settings I have the Xscreens layed out correctly at the login prompt. [02:13] When I attempt to login the screens flicker black and I get punted back to the login screen. [02:13] ....Eight monitors. [02:13] ^ [02:13] That's awesome. [02:13] Yes. They drive a big heads up display in my office. [02:13] Can you PLEASE post a picture? [02:13] Thats a nice setup there [02:13] which monitor you using? [02:14] I'm having trouble actually even conceptualizing how they fit together [02:14] DELL 24 inch [02:14] They have configured 4x4 + 4x4 and hang from the ceiling. [02:14] I'm a bit stuck with how to troubleshoot unity failing to start. [02:15] That's so friggin cool [02:15] It only stopped working when I updated the Xorg.conf with the nvidia-settings tool and layed the monitors out with an Xscreen each and enable Xinerama. [02:15] Aight, you guys sort her out, I'mma go try and get basic functionality out of my graphics card [02:15] one graphics driver problem to the next, lol [02:16] they cant help me because everybody hates macOS's proprietary software [02:16] sigh [02:16] unity doesnt like managers. gnome manager -- tool for gdm, will hang unity [02:17] Abequinn: whats the sound issue? [02:17] low quality, sounds like i'm covering the speaker all the time [02:17] How would I setup 8 montitors plugged into two discreat nVidia GPU's without using an external manager? [02:18] im trying to use alsamixer to fix it but i have no idea how to use it [02:18] (if i even need to) [02:19] Sakara there are pro vide equipment to do that [02:19] Abequinn: run this, lspci | grep Audio [02:20] 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 09) [02:20] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04) [02:21] I've got 2x nvidia NVS 510 + 8x DELL U2414H thats all. This setup "works" on Windows (applications move around the screens when the screens power down overnight). [02:21] When I have only montiros plugged into one card Unity works perfectly. [02:22] When I have monitors in both cards lightdm works perfectly. Any ideas where I can look to understand why unity is failing to launch? [02:22] I see nothing in `journalctl -f` [02:22] Abequinn: let me poke around a bit [02:23] ok... [02:23] Latest version of ubuntu? [02:23] yes 17.04 [02:24] and updated like 2 hours ago [02:24] Same issue on earlier version? [02:24] yes [02:25] which macbook air again? [02:26] MacBookAir6-1 [02:30] IntelCore: good Managers don't like Unity... [02:38] Sakara - I think use lightdm [02:39] Loshki - idk. secure linux and business enterprise. I meant desktop managers.. [02:40] I have seen some come here in unity and it is more rigid itself [02:41] Sakara - wall make with video controller [02:43] Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | This channel supports Ubuntu and its official flavors, versions 14.04, 16.04, 16.10, 17.04 [02:56] hello, i have these files in a directory, they all start with 'libs'. how do i delete them ? Please help me [02:56] how to run fluxbox on ubuntu 17.04. [02:56] ? [02:57] wannabej: hmm [02:59] jennie: Explain, as we do not want to help you break your system . libraries may not be something to mess about with . [02:59] agreed [03:02] I have a question, I'm running GPU passthrough with Ubuntu 17.04 as host and it has been working until a reboot now I'm getting this error. Any help would be great. "qemu-system-x86_64: -device vfio-pci,host=04:00.0,multifunction=on: vfio error: 0000:04:00.0: failed to open /dev/vfio/17: No such file or directory" === Menzador is now known as SonikkuAmerica === SonikkuAmerica is now known as Menzador === Abequinn is now known as abeq === abeq is now known as Abequinn === Menzador is now known as _7 === Abequinn is now known as _6 === _6 is now known as Abequinn === _7 is now known as Menzador [03:28] Okay, so here's a thing [03:28] I've been faffing around with different kernels, and I found out that there is one that changes the clockspeed of my card [03:28] If I install the LowLatency kernel, it takes my card from 135MHz to 33MHz. [03:29] So now instead of a 90% reduction in graphical performance, I have a 97% one! [03:29] Progress? [03:30] It's interesting, because 33MHz is slower than the minimum governor [03:31] welp, off I go [03:38] z80 were fun [03:39] punchcards ? [04:00] note: tried to tar a file on command line.. would not. had to Archive manager to get it done [04:01] this screen activity - took off the top bar of firefox, so I had to use file>quit to exit the browser [04:01] this has beet 2x now [04:02] Does Systemd track pids of services if I make a script, or do I need to have the script save a pid file? [04:02] logs [04:03] executables run - pid [04:04] IntelCore: tar -cvf output.tar /somedir [04:05] IntelCore: I hate short answers. Executables do turn into running programs with a PID. But do I have to capture it, or does SystemD know what to kill when i issue a stop command? [04:05] pavlos: thank you. :) [04:06] you kill a number [04:07] * schultza types in /ignore IntelCore [04:07] u have to find pid to kill. [04:07] anyone else? [04:07] How do I tell the script to capture the PID? [04:08] try #bash? [04:16] schultza: can't you use ps aux and grep to fetch the PID of a specific program? [04:18] spider_x: was thinking of that. Just trying to make sure I get it rig ht, y'know before scripting it. [04:19] er.. automatically doing it [04:19] Well, if it works in terminal it should work in a bash script, you just might want to save the result on a variable or an array if you have more than one. [04:20] For this systemd service i am making should be only one occurance. [04:25] anyone here using tmux? is there a way to have different sized fonts per window? === Guest44806 is now known as db` [04:54] IntelCore: I gave up with Unity. I've managed to get awesome window manager to show all 8 screens. [04:54] Going to just use that for now. [05:00] hey guys and gals. im trying to pass a flag("--oidentd") to a program (quasselcore) that is setup as a service. is there anyone who can help? [05:01] where is foxfire insyalled? So i can tell another prog to use it? [05:04] Sakara - I like video, nle, and DJ, Great to hear ! [05:04] IntelCore, in terminal type which therefore which firefox [05:04] which ! ahhh ha! [05:05] ty [05:05] yw [05:10] <_unreal_> damn 169 days up time and the update I just did wants me to reboot my cubox :( [05:14] i'm trying to create a linux virtual machine using virtualbox but the windows disc image burner says the ubuntu iso isn't valid and virtualbox says "Could not get the storage format of the medium" [05:15] i got ubuntu from the official site [05:17] !md5sum | notTechtronic [05:17] notTechtronic: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM [05:26] hello [05:28] thomedy: welcome, what can we do for you? [05:28] i sshd into my server and ran play [05:28] it worked on my server [05:28] but when i remote it doesn't happen [05:29] im not getting my playback remote [05:29] to be clear im talking about sox and play [05:30] im wondering if i run sox or play as a cgi in my server if the media can play through the markup [05:31] hi all, I have urgent question, how to edit pdf, save changes [05:31] ? [05:34] hi all, I have urgent question, how to edit pdf, save changes ? [05:43] A feed reader RssOwl, is says I need some files. no swt-gnome-gtk in java.library.path [05:43] hi, i have a ssl configured on my server. does changing date/time in the server, make ssl fail? [05:48] hi guys, how can we configure static DNS in ubuntu-16.04 [05:48] such that when a machine reboots the same dns is set, and it does not asks dhcp for the details [05:50] one sec ayogi [05:50] swt-gnome-gtk ? [05:51] is this a server btw ayogi [05:53] static dns is your dns server on that machine [05:53] you may install your own dns [05:53] sirru5h, yeah it's a ubuntu server setup inside a vpc [05:54] i have configured a custom dns which has a static ip [05:54] and i want the instances running inside the vpc to use that dns [05:54] https://michael.mckinnon.id.au/2016/05/05/configuring-ubuntu-16-04-static-ip-address/ [05:54] but every time the machine reboots, its dns gets set to a default dns [05:54] give that a look ayogi also don't forget to make a backup [05:55] like with cp not mv [05:55] reboots - on dynamic ip? [05:56] if a ip is paid, you get dns? [05:57] so, does it default to those [05:57] sirru5h, IntelCore also i have one doubt. how does a machine when comes up inside a vpc sets its gateway and dns? [05:58] does a machine broadcast the dhcp request and then the dhcp server replies with the gateway, dns settings? [05:59] i know my gateway is from isp on my cable box [06:00] with home10, i can try ubuntu/apache [06:00] pretty much a machine sends a broadcast then the dhcp server responds giving the config for the gw and dns server [06:01] if you ever seen it on say tcpdump thats about what it shows really helps one understand protocols [06:01] u know home10, can't run server.. so it says [06:02] IntelCore, like home isp lines are usually a bit filtered [06:02] ...NOT an MS Windows channel...hmm... [06:02] crappy [06:03] I wouldn't run one on a home connection you maybe able to get away with it but business lines are a bit umm better for work things I learned that the hard way [06:04] swt-gnome-gtk --- this is updated for 17 but 16.04 doesnt has it [06:04] IntelCore, I been too scared to go to win10.. I got win for my work machine which it mainly runs my linux vms [06:05] confesses . have bash on mine [06:05] Running a "home based" server, one opens themselves up to lots of external attacks...even something as simple as an email server...hmm... [06:06] well.. line out is a line. just "Live:wares" [06:07] YankDownUnder, is very right [06:08] that gtk was in Trusty, not in Xenial, and got put back on vers 17 [06:09] although YankDownUnder it's a great learning experience on everything from setting up a server to IR and then DFIR :P [06:10] and rootkit hunting then followed by re-installing [06:11] This command does output after regex, but when adding the pipe to sort, there is nothing. What am I doing wrong? journalctl -f -n 5000 -u aservice | egrep -io "[0-9]+\.[0-9]+" | sort -u [06:13] https://coffeeorientedprogramming.com/2014/10/27/how-to-tell-if-you-are-running-eclipse-on-gtk2-or-on-gtk3/ [06:14] mcoder - you need "compdoc" a scripter from way back [06:17] Hey I have a 6700 and ubuntu keeps freezing on me [06:17] mcoder, The "-f" means to "follow" - is that what you're wanting to do? (Follow - as in read the journal AS it's happening) [06:18] darthho0, Um...what's a 6700? [06:19] Oh man thanks... Yes I was following for something else, but then let it leak in the example above. So the SDOUT was messed up. It works, thanks. [06:20] mcoder, Easy peasey. [06:21] https://tinyurl.com/ycf276ba -- you see all these ppl with problen because gnome-gtk was missing in distro !!! [06:22] from lik 12.04 the distro .. some have, some dont [06:26] based on your expiriences: how often will the "automatic security update" feature make the ubuntu server unusable? [06:31] can't you select when - to install [06:32] I can check daily for updates, or not [06:32] pynki: can't recall it happening at all, actually [06:33] set a ticmark.. [06:33] * no gnome-gtk here boss, universal? [06:36] pynki, Unusable? In what manner...? [06:36] YankDownUnder, my processor [06:38] darthho0, Motorola 6700? WOW! ;) [06:41] darthho0: we need more details than that [06:45] ducasse YankDownUnder a intel 6700 lol... wow. what details do you need [06:47] darthho0: start with what system you're running, under what conditions the freezes happen, do you have any logs etc [06:47] ducasse it's mostly when intensive apps are running [06:47] ubuntu 16.04 [06:48] how do I get a log? [06:50] darthho0: which kernel are you running? 'uname -r' [06:58] Hi ubuntu my / is corrupt, but the old way I would have booted into single user mode and ran fsck doesnt work [06:58] I am in the grub boot menu but what do I type these days? [06:58]