=== thumper is now known as thumper-afk [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! qu [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! qu [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quickta [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalk [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalk [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quickta [02:46] Ubuntu bug 1674838 in linux-hwe-edge (Ubuntu) "kernel BUG at /build/linux-7LGLH_/linux-4.10.0/include/linux/swapops.h:129" [Undecided,In progress] [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: f [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: xclae [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: m [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: ochos [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: dobey FourDoll [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: PaulW2U Sweets [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: jhernandez_ [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: FJKong czaj [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: xclaesse Amp [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: charles fre [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: tja [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: dak [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: MushroomNZ [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: cpaelzer RA [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: ceb [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: s [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: sarn [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: ogra_ Guest99187 [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: saturday8440 xPilgr [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: flexiondotorg qe [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: Saviq hikiko ahoney [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: dobey ubot9 cypher [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: siel mpt plars cim [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: fr [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: tr [02:46] bug ticket issued 03-21-2017 ===>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1674838...yea you heard that right fucking months ago!! supposed to be fixed june 05, 2017..basically it just randomly freezes your screen without notice like a mother fucker!!! who said windows was better than linux pffffff you should fucking enjoy your pc freezing without notice for months and like it motherfucker!! quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: dobey Sw [03:03] That was random. Sometimes I feel like reminding people that getting free support on a free product is a privilege rather than a right. But there's not usually any tactful place to say it. [03:09] RAOF (or anyone): Should I have used a proper package name on this debdiff? Or does it not matter? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1582213/comments/8 [03:09] Ubuntu bug 1582213 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Xenial) "[xenial] Bluetooth device doesn't play any sound in A2DP mode unless set to HSP/HFP first" [High,In progress] [03:11] duflu: the name of the patch doesn't matter. [03:11] That looks like you're doing an SRU? [03:12] RAOF: Yes, is this your Clippy voice? :) [03:12] Heh [03:19] RAOF: Not in a hurry at all, but if I messed something up that is holding up the process please let me know. It's been years since I did SRUs [03:19] Many years [03:19] That looks pretty sensible. [03:19] Do all the linked bugs have their SRU paperwork? [03:20] RAOF: Separate descriptions documented, yes [03:21] i guess its correct in stating that ubuntu has no desire to be workable to the masses? [03:22] i think linux is a good concept ..it would be nice if there was a distro that had that as one of its goals is to be workable for average pc users... [03:23] i like ubuntu better than windows a lot better but i know the average pc user would not do well with it [03:28] luis30: Many of us got started working on Ubuntu out of pure frustration that it wasn't quite good enough. I would recommend to anyone to try and turn their frustrations into a positive contribution [03:30] That said, I think Linux desktops in general have too steep a learning curve for contributions. The processes can be too hard to learn or bother with, which is a problem. Perhaps such open source systems should aim to be scripted, so it's easier for people to fix and change things themselves [03:31] or compiled just-in-time. Either way, a more transparent hackable system [03:37] duflu, well maybe a paid linux distro...that is open source that won't go crazy like microsoft..maybe an option to they would have more resources to fix bugs sooner...and some simple steps to make linux more user friendly..some of the steps they could do would be rather easy to change... [03:38] like installing should be auto gdebi or like synaptic package manager...where missing dependicies are auto checked... [03:39] if someone wants to check it they can change it [03:39] IMHO, that's one of the many problems. Linux should use proper grammar - name software with correct capitalization and fewer abbreviations [03:41] another thing linux people like to leave out steps when giving instructions...like if someone needs sudo like maybe sudo gdebi file.deb...dont say gdebi file.deb say sudo gdebi file.deb [03:41] simple things can go a loooong way :P [03:41] Yes, that's true. But we aim ideally to not need shell commands [03:41] i hear ya [03:43] i think it could easily be done especially if its a paid product....where more resources where available === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [06:14] good morning desktoppers [06:24] good morning [06:37] morning didrocks, oSoMoN [06:40] hey jamesh, oSoMoN! [08:02] moin [08:05] good morning Laney & desktopers [08:05] how are you? [08:05] had a good long w.e? [08:05] hey seb128 [08:05] hey seb128 [08:05] hey oSoMoN [08:06] short week-end here, but good :) [08:06] very good thanks! [08:06] camping & walking & sun [08:06] then some rain and wind, but that's fun in a tent too [08:06] hey oSoMoN, I saw you yesterday, but indeed channel was very quiet [08:06] what about you? [08:06] oh and we disovered we'd left a candle burning at home the whole time [08:06] since thursday O_O [08:07] we had friends visiting during the w.e so spent some time with them and did a bbq [08:07] oh roland garros started on sunday as well :p [08:07] must be a big candle! [08:07] good that it didn't burn anything else... [08:08] like a church candle [08:08] yeah that's what I was disturbed about [08:08] what's that light in the corner? .... [08:08] "oh shit!" [08:08] wow, good that it didn’t burn the house down [09:14] 624.8% CPU [09:14] win! === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [09:49] duflu: I've 8 of them, I might go faster. [09:49] higher* [09:50] Trevinho, yeah same (8 threads, 4 cores). That was me playing 4K video [09:50] ouch [09:50] Trevinho, interestingly gnome-shell uses 20% CPU just to blit the image to the screen. That's pretty bad [09:50] But I read it's improving soon [09:57] Note that down as something Mir and Xorg both do much better than Gnome/Wayland [13:50] infinity, hi, I woner if you saw the patch in LP: #1692494, would it be possible to include that in our klibc package? [13:50] Launchpad bug 1692494 in klibc (Ubuntu) "klibc does not support reboot arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1692494 [14:20] Trevinho, didrocks, hey, did you try snaps using the gnome platform since it was renamed from runtine to platform? [14:21] seb128: I didn't, I guess only your demo snap is using it AFAIK, why? [14:21] didrocks, it's not working anymore [14:21] didrocks, because Ken has been building an updated platform one [14:21] the content interface isn't being mounted [14:21] and it's not working [14:21] seems the old one is not working either [14:21] I wonder if something went wrong during the renames [14:22] I thought you tried with the demo snap? I can have a look if I spot anything in the wrapper quickly [14:22] the mountpoint is empty [14:22] the wrapper doesn't have to do with the content mount iirc? [14:22] no [14:22] snapd does [14:22] once you connected them [14:22] k, weird [14:23] do you know if there is any debug output about that [14:23] last time I look, there was none [14:23] looked* [14:23] my laptop still has snapd 2.16 [14:23] so I don't think it's a snapd update regression [14:23] kenvandine, you have 2.25, correct? [14:23] seb128, the running snapd binary doesnt come from the deb ... [14:24] seb128: well, snap --version reports 2.16? [14:24] seb128, tyr "snap version" to se the real running binary [14:24] snapd reexec [14:24] yeah [14:24] $ snap --version [14:24] snap 2.16ubuntu3 [14:24] snapd 2.16ubuntu3 [14:24] snap 2.26.1+17.10 [14:24] snapd 2.26.1+17.10 [14:24] ken is on uptodate artful [14:24] and we're both seeing the same thing [14:24] and you are on trusty ? [14:24] I'm on xenial [14:25] how do you manage to be on such an old snapd [14:25] mind pastebining the snapcraft.yaml? [14:25] I didn't do updates for a while on that laptop [14:25] -updates gets a new one every few weeks [14:25] didrocks, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ghex/snap-share-content/view/head:/snapcraft.yaml [14:25] didrocks, even the version in the store doesn't work [14:25] which i have to assume worked at some point [14:26] what's the share content definition? [14:26] didrocks, snaps are on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/ghex-shared-udt [14:26] didrocks, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ghex/snap-share-content/view/head:/snapcraft.yaml#L15? [14:26] or what do you call definition? [14:26] the platform snap [14:27] didrocks, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+junk/snap-gnome-udt/view/head:/snapcraft.yaml [14:27] kenvandine: so, you do have an empty gnome-platform/, correct? [14:27] thanks [14:27] didrocks, yes [14:27] correct [14:27] yeah, everything looks ok [14:28] so snap interfaces shows them connected? [14:28] didrocks, you can sudo snap install --edge gnome318-udt [14:28] and nothing happends? [14:28] and the snap from the build page I copied a bit earlier [14:28] $ snap interfaces [14:28] Slot Plug [14:28] gnome318-udt:gnome318-platform ghex-udt [14:29] I wonder if that plug is correct [14:29] just one question, did you run it, get an issue, and then rerun it? [14:29] i dont think the content interface worked correctly in that early snapd version (that indeed doesnt explain why it doesnt work for ken either) [14:29] ogra_: supposed to be released in July 2016 :) [14:29] ogra_, I tried on that box because the gnome platform was working there [14:29] so it was to rule out a snapd update issue [14:30] didrocks, no error that I know no [14:30] yeah [14:30] seb128: I'm asking because you need to clear the namespace [14:30] so, if you run it once [14:30] get missing slot connection [14:30] connect it [14:30] rerun it [14:30] it will fail [14:30] * didrocks installs the snaps [14:32] cannot change current working directory to the original directory: No such file or directory [14:32] is that what you get? ^ [14:32] no [14:32] no, I don't see any error here [14:32] i got nothing [14:32] devmode? [14:32] no [14:32] weird [14:32] that's what I'm getting here [14:32] installed the 2 snaps [14:32] sudo snap install --devmode ghex-udt_git_.. [14:33] connect them [14:33] ah [14:33] so, devmode for seb [14:33] ah, i didn't try devmode :) [14:33] I'm not in devmode [14:33] nice, reinstalling without remove it in devmode is exposing more snapd bugs [14:33] $ sudo snap install --devmode ghex-udt_git_amd64.snap [14:33] 2017-05-30T16:33:22+02:00 INFO cannot auto connect ghex-udt:unity7 to core:unity7: (plug auto-connection), existing connection state "ghex-udt:unity7 core:unity7" in the way [14:33] isn't devmode needed to use content sharing if snaps don't come from the same provider? [14:34] * didrocks remove and reinstalled [14:34] seb128: I don't think so [14:34] oh, i think you are right [14:34] but still, you used devmode and had the same results :) [14:34] still the same issue [14:34] I'm in /tmp [14:34] ok, out of /tmp, no bug [14:34] bah, now ghex starts [14:34] i think content sharing is only for same provider [14:34] starts here [14:35] but ls of the mountdir is still emty [14:35] empty [14:35] weird [14:35] well [14:35] /snap/ghex/current/gnome-runtime [14:35] oh, because it can access the root fs [14:35] platform [14:35] it's in a mount namespace [14:35] you can't see it like that :) [14:35] snap run --shell ghex-udt [14:35] yep [14:35] should show the contents right? [14:35] ls into that subshell ^ [14:35] yes [14:35] $ ls /snap/ghex-udt/x1/gnome-platform/ [14:35] etc lib metasbin usr var [14:36] so, yeah, working [14:36] ok... so i guess my problem was lack of devmode [14:36] since they aren't from the same provider [14:36] kenvandine: let me retry without devmode [14:36] just to confirm [14:36] * didrocks removes the snap [14:36] same, works now [14:37] I think my issue was that I run the command first [14:37] got the error [14:37] then did the connect [14:37] didn't clear the namespace… [14:37] and that didn't work [14:37] yep [14:37] reported many times [14:37] maybe the helper message should mention the workaround :p [14:37] i'll test with my new snap in a few [14:37] thanks guys [14:37] seb128: "nice" :/ the tutorials does TBH [14:37] like "remove, reinstall" [14:38] i was running it to get the exact command to run to connect it :) [14:38] kenvandine: works in non devmode here [14:38] so, only with --dangerous [14:38] yeah [14:38] I guess it's the namespace clearing as for seb128 ^ [14:39] (that's why I explicitely asked if you run the command before connecting…) [14:39] the weird thing is that I read that it's not needed anymore a couple of weeks ago in their email [14:39] (also, the "run a command from /tmp" error message isn't really clear) [14:40] didrocks, thanks for the help [14:40] yw :) [14:40] glad that it's only this TBH [14:40] it had been a while, I had forgotten about those annoying details [14:40] yeah, me too [14:40] feel free to open a PR or merge the message [14:40] better than nothing I guess [14:40] will do [14:40] is there a bug open about that on snapd? [14:41] just to reference in a comment [14:41] yes [14:41] * seb128 looks [14:41] bingo [14:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-platform/+bug/1671421 [14:42] Ubuntu bug 1671421 in Ubuntu App Platform "app keeps asking installing ubuntu-app-platform and connecting platform interface" [Undecided,New] [14:42] thanks [14:42] fix is: "sudo /usr/lib/snapd/snap-discard-ns " [14:42] shrug [14:42] hum, Xiao opened it at the wrong place [14:43] I was going to say, we should probably have something reported against snapd [14:43] I did ask though to add multiple tasks… [14:44] added the correct tasks === heber_ is now known as heber [15:30] oh oh oh [15:30] it's meeting time! [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:30] * didrocks was expecting "christmas" with this intro [15:30] :) [15:30] o/ [15:30] :-) [15:31] where is Trevinho? :) [15:31] o/ [15:31] laaate [15:31] ok, let's get started [15:32] #topic andyrock [15:32] o/ [15:32] oh, ups [15:32] #startmeeting [15:32] Meeting started Tue May 30 15:32:09 2017 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:32] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:32] better :-) [15:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: andyrock [15:32] he sent an email saying he's stucked in traffic so here is his update [15:32] # I m adding unit tests to the changes done on software-properties for live-patch [15:32] # finished the Ubuntu sso dialogue [15:32] # self review and 360 [15:32] # eow [15:33] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: dgadomski [15:33] dgadomski, hey [15:33] hey [15:33] * I was involved mostly in non-desktop issues this week [15:33] * published a darktable classic-confinement snap, using it on a daily basis [15:33] eof [15:33] thanks dgadomski [15:33] thanks [15:33] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: didrocks [15:33] didrocks, lut [15:33] hey [15:33] * AWS related work: [15:33] - Got some issues and blocked on a particular missing mqtt bug, waiting on Amazon answer (the code isn't opensource, so I can't debug it myself). Currently blocked on this. [15:33] - Everyone had access to the new features had their pre-beta cred revoked for a couple of days. Then, when things went back on, had to recreate from scratch all contents. [15:34] - Enhance both our core and sample snaps so that bootstrapping is way easier. [15:34] - Their 0.9 rollout was backward incompatible both in code and configuration, realizing that 0.8 wasn't working with it in weird and subtle ways, then getting access the next day with 0.9 and remake the snaps with the updated content. (So, now back to the first bullet point bug!) [15:34] - Sync up with Jamie S. on security side, preparing an easy snap for him so that he doesn't fall into all those traps. [15:34] * HR: self and peer reviews [15:34] * 4 days week [15:34] . [15:34] thanks didrocks [15:34] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: duflu [15:35] * PulseAudio: [15:35] - SRU of A2DP Bluetooth audio fixes to xenial: [15:35] . Produced, tested and proposed the SRU for xenial. [15:35] . Might not be the final word, but it's still not even in proposed yet. Please wait. [15:35] - Spent time testing and investigating audio noise on Dell Sputnik: [15:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1654448 [15:35] Ubuntu bug 1654448 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "XPS 13 9360 and 9350, Realtek ALC3246, Headphone audio hiss" [Medium,Confirmed] [15:35] - Completed review of the hottest Pulse bugs (summary in Trello). Interestingly a couple more of the top hottest Pulse bugs might also be resolved by that SRU. [15:35] * BlueZ: [15:35] - Spent time trying to backport upstream bluez fixes to xenial in order to fix connection problems slowing the testing of pulseaudio fixes. No joy yet, but I also stopped trying. [15:35] - Completed review of the hottest BlueZ bugs (summary in Trello). [15:35] * ubuntu-themes: Completed a full pass through the 200+ bug backlog. Closed around 30, and set 98 more to expire in July. [15:35] * gnome-shell: Daily bug deduplication and triage. [15:35] * Mir: [15:35] - Dipped back into Mir briefly to tidy up the release of 0.26.3, which is now in artful, and soon xenial. [15:35] - Prepared Mir trunk for rebranching 0.27 in future (never released but is large). I only jumped in because I kept hearing that was the plan, but nobody had prepared the project for it. [15:35] * Video acceleration: Just starting to think about this properly now. No news. [15:36] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: jbicha [15:36] jbicha, hey [15:36] • Upstreamed appstream metadata for GNOME's Cantarell font [15:36] • Worked with upstream to add working appstream metadata to Lohit (Indic) fonts and packaged the latest versions in Ubuntu [15:36] • Figured out why Ubuntu's GNOME Software home page is missing the Add-ons subcategories for Fonts and Input Sources and let x_imion know. [15:36] • Added Tweak Tool switch to move window buttons to the left or right. LP: #1010851 [15:37] Launchpad bug 1010851 in Baltix "[PATCH] An option to Gnome Tweak Tool to move window buttons to the Left or the Right side" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010851 [15:37] eof [15:37] thanks jbicha [15:37] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: jamesh [15:37] jamesh, you around? I don't think I got your update but maybe will did and didn't forward it to me? [15:38] seems not, ok let's move on [15:39] #topic jibel/heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: jibel/heber [15:39] Hey guys! for the QA side: [15:39] jibel said that heber would be there [15:39] hey heber :-) [15:39] - Added upgrades from Xenial to Zesty and Artful [15:39] - Submitted fix for Ubiquity tests but there are still some issues to investigate. [15:39] - ISO, ubiquity and upgrade tests results are being reported to Grafana dashboard. Though there is an issue in the metrics to solve for ISO results. [15:39] EOF [15:40] thanks heber [15:40] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: kenvandine [15:40] kenvandine, hey [15:40] * gnome-3-24 xenial platform snap is available on LP, however in testing the content interface is not being mounted. I finally tested gnome318-udt from the store and reproduced the same issue. Perhaps something has changed in snap, or it's broken in artful, investigating now. [15:40] * Self review [15:40] * Processed the data from the OMG Ubuntu poll and drafted an email to share with GNOME engagement team as well as a blog post to be published soon. [15:40] * Short week, US holiday yesterday [15:40] eof [15:40] oh, that's outdated :) [15:41] lol [15:41] thanks to didrocks and seb128 to help figure out the snap problem [15:41] :-) [15:41] yw! [15:41] yw [15:41] that's it for me [15:41] thanks kenvandine [15:41] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [15:41] Laney, hey [15:41] • 3.5 day week (yay) [15:41] • Set up asgen environment in lxd, adapt backports (mustache-d, meson, lmdb, gir-to-d, ...) & stuff to requirements of trunk on xenial, some tweaks to make arbitrary prefixes work (just finished that 2 minutes ago) [15:42] ∘ that is all epic yak shaving - now I can actually do work on this stuff again [15:42] • ubuntu-dev-tools: Fix for retrying builds in non-dev release / non release pockets, fix unit tests, some tweaks after git conversion, upload to exp [15:42] • Some more theme reviews [15:42] • Self review @ HR [15:42] • Some cycle planning / work to be done discussions [15:42] ☁ [15:42] thanks Laney [15:43] topic #oSoMoN [15:43] oSoMoN, hey [15:43] ups [15:43] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: oSoMoN [15:43] hey oSoMoN :-) [15:43] hey [15:43] • chromium updates in PPAs: beta to 59.0.3071.71, dev to 60.0.3107.4 [15:43] • chromium 59 should be promoted to stable this week, will follow closely to have it pushed to artful and security pockets for supported releases ASAP [15:43] • completed self and peers review [15:43] • working on a chromium-browser snap (currently built from the debs) [15:43] • bought a chromecast device to investigate bug #1621753, struggling to get it set up atm [15:43] EOF [15:43] bug 1621753 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Google Cast no longer finds Chromecast device" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621753 [15:43] thanks oSoMoN [15:44] oSoMoN: will the 59 SRU use gtk3? [15:44] oSoMoN, I still have your chromium update on my list, sorry for the delay [15:44] jbicha, yes [15:44] seb128, you mean libreoffice? [15:44] yay! :) [15:44] oSoMoN, DOH [15:44] yes :-) [15:44] :) [15:45] thanks oSoMoN [15:45]