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cpaelzerrbasak would chair I think but didn't reply yet16:03
cpaelzergive him a minute otherwise one has to take over16:03
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cpaelzerok, prepping the commands page ...16:05
cpaelzerI'm gonna start - if rbasak joins he can complete and do the mails and such16:05
cpaelzerdpb1: ok with that to get going?16:05
tewardi should consider familiarizing myself with these commands heh16:05
tewardbut meh.16:05
dpb1cpaelzer: go for it16:05
cpaelzer#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:06
meetingologyMeeting started Tue May 30 16:06:00 2017 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:06
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cpaelzer#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:06
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cpaelzerwe have plenty this time16:06
cpaelzerlets check how much we postpone again16:06
cpaelzerACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:06
cpaelzerwell - not here so carry over16:06
cpaelzer#ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:06
meetingologyACTION: : rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)16:06
cpaelzerACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:06
cpaelzerACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:06
cpaelzernacc: how about those?16:07
nacccpaelzer: carrying on until next week16:07
cpaelzer#ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:07
meetingologyACTION: : nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:07
cpaelzer#ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:07
meetingologyACTION: : nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)16:07
powersjFYI we have a sprint agenda item to do all of these ;)16:07
rharperack16:07
cpaelzeroh I see16:07
cpaelzerso I carry rharper's as well16:08
cpaelzer#ACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:08
meetingologyACTION: : rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:08
rharperyes16:08
cpaelzer#ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:08
meetingologyACTION: : rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)16:08
cpaelzerACTION: teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x) (carried over)16:08
tewardhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful16:08
tewardprobably needs improvement and needs a once-over from someone OTHER than me, but at least started there.16:08
teward(I had no computer, so I dropped it in a sublocation under the NGINX pages)16:08
cpaelzersee guys, this is how things are done16:08
cpaelzerdpb1: could you add to review and move this to the real release notes to our sprint?16:09
nacctewards puts us all to shame16:09
cpaelzerteward: has done the base work, if we need we can reach out to him16:09
cpaelzerotherwise we can review polish and edit the reelase notes on the sprint16:09
dpb1cpaelzer: ok16:09
tewardnacc: i'mma remember you said that :P16:09
cpaelzerdpb1: you don't need an action here to take that into the sprint notes right?16:09
dpb1cpaelzer: add an action16:10
dpb1that way we can get one done!16:10
cpaelzer#ACTION dpb1 to add the review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful to the sprint agenda16:10
meetingologyACTION: dpb1 to add the review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful to the sprint agenda16:10
cpaelzer#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful16:10
cpaelzerok one done, thanks teward16:11
cpaelzerdpb1: while we are at it how about16:11
tewardcpaelzer: yep!16:11
cpaelzerACTION: dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over)16:11
ahasenackhm16:11
ahasenackthat is the one the doc team mentioned to me16:11
dpb1cpaelzer: will add that one too16:11
dpb1good idea16:11
ahasenackthat they were waiting for before publishing a new server guide relase16:11
ahasenackwith my samba/ldap/kerberos fixes16:12
ahasenackso dpb1 is blocking my fixes from landing! :)16:12
cpaelzerI remember the reply ahasenack16:12
dpb1ahasenack: you want to take it?16:12
cpaelzerbut they are unrelated - doc about kernel upgrades vs samba fixes16:12
cpaelzershould not block each other right?16:12
ahasenackindeed, they just wanted to take the opportunity16:12
ahasenackah, it was the /boot being filled up controversy?16:13
cpaelzeryes16:13
ahasenackwhat exactly are we supposed to do there?16:13
cpaelzerso get your doc changes landed is #116:13
ahasenackdocument best practices?16:13
cpaelzerand #2 is unrelated which is dpb1 taking care to clarify on these kernel things16:13
cpaelzerI'll carry the action, then we can talk about doc ok ahasenack16:13
ahasenackok16:14
cpaelzer#ACTION: dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over, into sprint)16:14
meetingologyACTION: : dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over, into sprint)16:14
cpaelzerahasenack: do you want to wait for the open discussion with the doc things?16:14
cpaelzerahasenack: but I'm fine here if you want16:14
ahasenackwhat's next?16:14
ahasenacklet's do it in the open discussion section16:15
cpaelzerDev Release -> bugs -> sru- kernel -> open discussion16:15
cpaelzerok16:15
cpaelzer#topic Artful Development16:15
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cpaelzer#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule16:15
cpaelzer#subtopic blueprints16:15
cpaelzer#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-aa-server-core16:15
cpaelzeron merges I heard nacc is power-farming merges16:16
cpaelzerthanks a lot nacc16:16
cpaelzeranything on the general Artful before going into artful bugs?16:16
tewardyeah i have work to do on nginx16:16
tewardmerging from Debian by hand16:16
ahasenackthe merge report is now up-to-date, right?16:16
tewardbut that'll be done by end-of-week16:16
ahasenackI mean, it's running16:16
ahasenackhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/merges.html ?16:17
ahasenackimagemagick is server?16:17
cpaelzerrbasak updated it and it generates things with recent updates16:17
cpaelzerahasenack: I think it is tied to php16:17
ahasenackah, could be16:17
ahasenackI might try some of the simpler ones, and related to services I know16:18
cpaelzeryeah doing most before the Debian release will be wise16:19
cpaelzeras after Debian releases all weird experiments will land and be sorted out16:19
cpaelzermerging then might be more stressful than intended16:19
cpaelzera cycle later things will have settled a bit16:19
cpaelzerthere are excuses like myself with qemu/libvirt intentionally waiting until the new versions appear after the release16:20
cpaelzeranyway going on to bugs in AA16:20
cpaelzer#subtopic Release Bugs16:20
cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:20
ahasenackhey, that list has gone down :)16:20
cpaelzernish is on the merge assigned so I consider that handled16:20
cpaelzersosreport is assigned to the reporter16:21
nacccpaelzer: django?16:21
cpaelzeris that STS driven?16:21
nacccpaelzer: yeah, i'm waiting for confirmation from openstack still16:21
cpaelzernacc: yeah django16:21
ahasenackhow is that cloud-init one fix committed but the artful task is not?16:21
cpaelzernacc: you are on it which is enough to know it is not forgotten16:21
ahasenackisn't the main task == artful at this time?16:21
cpaelzerrharper: ^^?16:21
ahasenackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/169202816:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1692028 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Artful) "duplicate mac address during config-drive configuration with LXD container on openstack" [Medium,Confirmed]16:22
ahasenackah16:22
ahasenackcommitted is upstream/code16:22
cpaelzerI think if it is an ubuntu owned thing then Devel and Artful can differ16:22
ahasenackpackage task is separate16:22
cpaelzerahasenack: see upstream vs "status tracked in artful"16:22
ahasenackright16:22
cpaelzerexactly16:22
ahasenackI missed that16:22
ahasenackn/m16:22
cpaelzerslashd: hey is the sosreport from STS?16:22
cpaelzerDavid Coronel is assigned to all of them16:23
cpaelzerand the reporter16:23
cpaelzerwell if he is around he can share in the next section since the bug goes back to all other releases as well16:23
cpaelzer#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd)16:23
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cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:23
cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:23
cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:24
cpaelzerslashd: around?16:24
ahasenackhttp://launchpad.net/bugs/1677329 needs a look (libpam-winbind sponsorship)16:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1677329 in samba (Ubuntu Zesty) "libpam-winbind: unable to dlopen" [High,In progress]16:24
cpaelzerand while waiting any other SRUs worth to mention completed or inthe pipe?16:24
cpaelzerI completed libvirt (apparmor rules) last week16:24
cpaelzeralso postrges MRE fully passed X,Y,Z16:24
cpaelzerTrusty was accepted late, so it has to wait a few days in proposed - but test sare good16:25
cpaelzerahasenack: what is it that you need on that one ahasenack?16:25
ahasenackcpaelzer: sponsorship for artful16:25
ahasenackand then I can proceed with sru'ing it to the other releases where it just doesn't work16:26
ahasenackI have a ppa with the fix for people to test: https://launchpad.net/~ahasenack/+archive/ubuntu/samba-1677329/+packages16:26
ahasenackbuilds with the appropriate ~ppa1 suffix ;)16:26
cpaelzerahasenack: I need to tell you about bileto on the sprint16:26
ahasenackdo tell16:27
cpaelzerwhich would make this a one-button action16:27
cpaelzerit is a repetition for the others so not on the agenda, but please remind me16:27
cpaelzernacc: you did samba things in the past - could you sponsor the upload ?16:27
nacccpaelzer: i can -- isa it ready to sponsor?16:28
naccreading the backscroll16:28
naccahasenack: ping me in #ubuntu-server after this and i'll review it16:28
cpaelzernacc: it is, if you want it in a different way then let ahasenack know16:28
ahasenackok, thanks16:28
cpaelzer#ACTION: nacc to review and sponsor ahasenack work on bug 167732916:28
meetingologyACTION: : nacc to review and sponsor ahasenack work on bug 167732916:28
ubottubug 1677329 in samba (Ubuntu Zesty) "libpam-winbind: unable to dlopen" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167732916:29
cpaelzer#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:29
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cpaelzer#link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/16:29
cpaelzercopy and paste please16:29
powersjLast week involved getting the initial collection metrics setup and into Prometheus. Also started on the proposed automation testing and was able to get a jenkins job setup with nightly checks for uploads and determine what tests, if any, need to be ran.16:29
powersjThis week the focus is on getting cloud-init/curtin CI pipeline setup to extend our merge request testing past unit tests and include integration, build, etc. testing. Also hoping to get my proposed automation testing further working to demo next week.16:29
powersj#info continue work on proposed automation testing16:30
powersjquestions?16:30
cpaelzerproposed automation testing is based on https://launchpad.net/qa-regression-testing right?16:30
powersjcpaelzer: ys16:30
powersjyes*16:30
cpaelzerjust as my qemu/libvirt tests16:30
cpaelzernice16:30
cpaelzerI used more of them looking forward to discuss and help in case16:30
cpaelzere.g. strongswan I used16:30
cpaelzerinterested how you wrapped that to work in jenkins16:31
cpaelzer#link https://launchpad.net/qa-regression-testing16:31
cpaelzer#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:31
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smbNo news (those are said to be the good ones I hear). Are there questions/remarks/requests?16:31
ahasenacksmb: do we carry a big apparmor delta regarding the upstream kernel?16:32
smbahasenack, it can vary but I can tell from the top of my head how big that is in each kernel16:33
ahasenackok16:33
cpaelzerthanks smb, I assume s/can/can't/ above16:33
cpaelzerotherwise I'd be extra impressed16:34
ahasenacksame :)16:34
smbindeed16:34
cpaelzer#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:34
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cpaelzer#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:34
cpaelzernothing on my radar that is important - anybody?16:34
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cpaelzer#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:34
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cpaelzerwe sprint internally next week as you have seen on some actions we moved there16:35
cpaelzeranything on top we should consider/discuss there?16:35
cpaelzersilence = no16:35
cpaelzer#topic Open Discussion16:35
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cpaelzerahasenack: could you outline the doc thing you wanted to discuss16:35
cpaelzerI remember the discussion about 3 weeks ago16:35
ahasenackah, right16:35
cpaelzeryou wanted to get stuff into serverguide (and I read you have/are on the way)16:36
ahasenackso tl;dr, I merged many fixes to the serverguide16:36
ahasenackand that's ready for release/publishing16:36
cpaelzerok thats is a +1 for you16:36
cpaelzer\o/16:36
ahasenackthe doc team then told me they will proceed with that, but first they wanted to check on something about unattended upgrades that was brought up elsewhere16:36
ahasenack(not by me)16:36
ahasenackand I didn't remembe that, until I saw that action here before16:37
cpaelzerhrm - still sounds as one should not block th eother16:37
cpaelzerwas that update on the merge proposal?16:37
ahasenackno16:37
ahasenackthe MPs have all been merged16:37
cpaelzerah you mean before the point release they want to check16:37
ahasenackit was brought up in ubuntu-doc, in the reply to my publishing request16:37
ahasenackright16:37
ahasenackthey wanted to try to include those changes in the point release as well16:37
cpaelzermaybe they have another change in flight which they'd like to include16:37
cpaelzerah ok, now things make sense16:37
ahasenackand after seeing that action item16:38
cpaelzerdo you happen to know if that is (or not) related to this kernel cleanup thing which is a task for dpb1?16:38
ahasenackI wondered if we were blocking that for them16:38
cpaelzerok, so wondering not knowing if it IS the same item16:38
ahasenackI *think* it is related, but it's vague to me16:38
cpaelzerok, dpb1 on that item could you do a few prechecks before next week so we know what to do onthat?16:38
cpaelzerpart of the action you already have16:38
ahasenackI can paste the reply here16:39
cpaelzeryeah please16:39
ahasenackpaste incoming (short)16:39
ahasenack"However, over on the Ubuntu-server e-mail list and meeting reports there was some stuff16:39
ahasenackabout getting help addressing the unattended upgrades issues, and someone took the action16:39
ahasenackitem. I'm going to try to kick that list and get some help, towards the objective of16:39
ahasenackincluding those fixes in this same point release cycle. So, there will be a delay before16:39
ahasenackstring freeze is declared for this point release cycle."16:39
dpb1cpaelzer: I might not have time this week.16:39
ahasenackmight that "someone" be dpb1?16:39
cpaelzerok, ahasenack is next week early enough?16:39
cpaelzerI guess yes16:39
ahasenacksure16:39
cpaelzer#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:39
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cpaelzerwe will be around same time (from the sprint)16:40
cpaelzerchait will again be rbasak16:40
cpaelzerwho will do the mail/wiki updates today for me covering him I hope16:40
cpaelzeras I have to run to a parent teacher conference now :-)16:40
cpaelzer#chair rbasak16:40
meetingologyCurrent chairs: cpaelzer rbasak16:40
cpaelzeryou can close rbasak, so you get the link16:40
rbasak#endmeeting16:41
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue May 30 16:41:01 2017 UTC.16:41
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-30-16.06.moin.txt16:41
rharpercpaelzer: thanks!16:41
rbasakThanks cpaelzer!16:41
cpaelzerthank you everybody, and see you soon16:41
ahasenackthx cpaelzer16:41
powersjo/ thx cpaelzer16:42
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slashdcpaelzer, sorry I was on PTO, will be there next week, what is the best way to let you know in advance when I'm not attending the meeting ?20:01
dpb1slashd: email to chair person with that info, or a backup who can cover for you would be good.20:05
slashddpb1, where can I find who chair the meeting ?20:06
dpb1glad you asked!20:06
dpb1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting20:07
slashddpb1, thanks20:07

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