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[15:57] <ahasenack> o/
[15:58] <teward> p/
[15:58] <teward> oops
[15:58] <teward> o/
[15:58] <smb> o/
[16:00] <cpaelzer> o/
[16:01] <powersj> o/
[16:01] <rharper> o/
[16:02] <teward> *bleps*
[16:03] <dpb1> o/
[16:03] <cpaelzer> rbasak would chair I think but didn't reply yet
[16:03] <cpaelzer> give him a minute otherwise one has to take over
[16:03] <nacc> o/
[16:05] <cpaelzer> ok, prepping the commands page ...
[16:05] <cpaelzer> I'm gonna start - if rbasak joins he can complete and do the mails and such
[16:05] <cpaelzer> dpb1: ok with that to get going?
[16:05] <teward> i should consider familiarizing myself with these commands heh
[16:05] <teward> but meh.
[16:05] <dpb1> cpaelzer: go for it
[16:06] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:06] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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[16:06] <cpaelzer> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
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[16:06] <cpaelzer> we have plenty this time
[16:06] <cpaelzer> lets check how much we postpone again
[16:06] <cpaelzer> ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:06] <cpaelzer> well - not here so carry over
[16:06] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:06] <meetingology> ACTION: : rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over)
[16:06] <cpaelzer> ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:06] <cpaelzer> ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <cpaelzer> nacc: how about those?
[16:07] <nacc> cpaelzer: carrying on until next week
[16:07] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over)
[16:07] <powersj> FYI we have a sprint agenda item to do all of these ;)
[16:07] <rharper> ack
[16:07] <cpaelzer> oh I see
[16:08] <cpaelzer> so I carry rharper's as well
[16:08] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)
[16:08] <rharper> yes
[16:08] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over)
[16:08] <cpaelzer> ACTION: teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x) (carried over)
[16:08] <teward> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful
[16:08] <teward> probably needs improvement and needs a once-over from someone OTHER than me, but at least started there.
[16:08] <teward> (I had no computer, so I dropped it in a sublocation under the NGINX pages)
[16:08] <cpaelzer> see guys, this is how things are done
[16:09] <cpaelzer> dpb1: could you add to review and move this to the real release notes to our sprint?
[16:09] <nacc> tewards puts us all to shame
[16:09] <cpaelzer> teward: has done the base work, if we need we can reach out to him
[16:09] <cpaelzer> otherwise we can review polish and edit the reelase notes on the sprint
[16:09] <dpb1> cpaelzer: ok
[16:09] <teward> nacc: i'mma remember you said that :P
[16:09] <cpaelzer> dpb1: you don't need an action here to take that into the sprint notes right?
[16:10] <dpb1> cpaelzer: add an action
[16:10] <dpb1> that way we can get one done!
[16:10] <cpaelzer> #ACTION dpb1 to add the review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful to the sprint agenda
[16:10] <meetingology> ACTION: dpb1 to add the review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful to the sprint agenda
[16:10] <cpaelzer> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGINX/ReleaseNotes/Artful
[16:11] <cpaelzer> ok one done, thanks teward
[16:11] <cpaelzer> dpb1: while we are at it how about
[16:11] <teward> cpaelzer: yep!
[16:11] <cpaelzer> ACTION: dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over)
[16:11] <ahasenack> hm
[16:11] <ahasenack> that is the one the doc team mentioned to me
[16:11] <dpb1> cpaelzer: will add that one too
[16:11] <dpb1> good idea
[16:11] <ahasenack> that they were waiting for before publishing a new server guide relase
[16:12] <ahasenack> with my samba/ldap/kerberos fixes
[16:12] <ahasenack> so dpb1 is blocking my fixes from landing! :)
[16:12] <cpaelzer> I remember the reply ahasenack
[16:12] <dpb1> ahasenack: you want to take it?
[16:12] <cpaelzer> but they are unrelated - doc about kernel upgrades vs samba fixes
[16:12] <cpaelzer> should not block each other right?
[16:12] <ahasenack> indeed, they just wanted to take the opportunity
[16:13] <ahasenack> ah, it was the /boot being filled up controversy?
[16:13] <cpaelzer> yes
[16:13] <ahasenack> what exactly are we supposed to do there?
[16:13] <cpaelzer> so get your doc changes landed is #1
[16:13] <ahasenack> document best practices?
[16:13] <cpaelzer> and #2 is unrelated which is dpb1 taking care to clarify on these kernel things
[16:13] <cpaelzer> I'll carry the action, then we can talk about doc ok ahasenack
[16:14] <ahasenack> ok
[16:14] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over, into sprint)
[16:14] <meetingology> ACTION: : dpb to look into a few open issues around automatic updates that were pointed out by the doc team (carried over, into sprint)
[16:14] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: do you want to wait for the open discussion with the doc things?
[16:14] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: but I'm fine here if you want
[16:14] <ahasenack> what's next?
[16:15] <ahasenack> let's do it in the open discussion section
[16:15] <cpaelzer> Dev Release -> bugs -> sru- kernel -> open discussion
[16:15] <cpaelzer> ok
[16:15] <cpaelzer> #topic Artful Development
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[16:15] <cpaelzer> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[16:15] <cpaelzer> #subtopic blueprints
[16:15] <cpaelzer> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-aa-server-core
[16:16] <cpaelzer> on merges I heard nacc is power-farming merges
[16:16] <cpaelzer> thanks a lot nacc
[16:16] <cpaelzer> anything on the general Artful before going into artful bugs?
[16:16] <teward> yeah i have work to do on nginx
[16:16] <teward> merging from Debian by hand
[16:16] <ahasenack> the merge report is now up-to-date, right?
[16:16] <teward> but that'll be done by end-of-week
[16:16] <ahasenack> I mean, it's running
[16:17] <ahasenack> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/merges.html ?
[16:17] <ahasenack> imagemagick is server?
[16:17] <cpaelzer> rbasak updated it and it generates things with recent updates
[16:17] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I think it is tied to php
[16:17] <ahasenack> ah, could be
[16:18] <ahasenack> I might try some of the simpler ones, and related to services I know
[16:19] <cpaelzer> yeah doing most before the Debian release will be wise
[16:19] <cpaelzer> as after Debian releases all weird experiments will land and be sorted out
[16:19] <cpaelzer> merging then might be more stressful than intended
[16:19] <cpaelzer> a cycle later things will have settled a bit
[16:20] <cpaelzer> there are excuses like myself with qemu/libvirt intentionally waiting until the new versions appear after the release
[16:20] <cpaelzer> anyway going on to bugs in AA
[16:20] <cpaelzer> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:20] <cpaelzer> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:20] <ahasenack> hey, that list has gone down :)
[16:20] <cpaelzer> nish is on the merge assigned so I consider that handled
[16:21] <cpaelzer> sosreport is assigned to the reporter
[16:21] <nacc> cpaelzer: django?
[16:21] <cpaelzer> is that STS driven?
[16:21] <nacc> cpaelzer: yeah, i'm waiting for confirmation from openstack still
[16:21] <cpaelzer> nacc: yeah django
[16:21] <ahasenack> how is that cloud-init one fix committed but the artful task is not?
[16:21] <cpaelzer> nacc: you are on it which is enough to know it is not forgotten
[16:21] <ahasenack> isn't the main task == artful at this time?
[16:21] <cpaelzer> rharper: ^^?
[16:22] <ahasenack> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1692028
[16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1692028 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Artful) "duplicate mac address during config-drive configuration with LXD container on openstack" [Medium,Confirmed]
[16:22] <ahasenack> ah
[16:22] <ahasenack> committed is upstream/code
[16:22] <cpaelzer> I think if it is an ubuntu owned thing then Devel and Artful can differ
[16:22] <ahasenack> package task is separate
[16:22] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: see upstream vs "status tracked in artful"
[16:22] <ahasenack> right
[16:22] <cpaelzer> exactly
[16:22] <ahasenack> I missed that
[16:22] <ahasenack> n/m
[16:22] <cpaelzer> slashd: hey is the sosreport from STS?
[16:23] <cpaelzer> David Coronel is assigned to all of them
[16:23] <cpaelzer> and the reporter
[16:23] <cpaelzer> well if he is around he can share in the next section since the bug goes back to all other releases as well
[16:23] <cpaelzer> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd)
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[16:23] <cpaelzer> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:23] <cpaelzer> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:24] <cpaelzer> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:24] <cpaelzer> slashd: around?
[16:24] <ahasenack> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1677329 needs a look (libpam-winbind sponsorship)
[16:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1677329 in samba (Ubuntu Zesty) "libpam-winbind: unable to dlopen" [High,In progress]
[16:24] <cpaelzer> and while waiting any other SRUs worth to mention completed or inthe pipe?
[16:24] <cpaelzer> I completed libvirt (apparmor rules) last week
[16:24] <cpaelzer> also postrges MRE fully passed X,Y,Z
[16:25] <cpaelzer> Trusty was accepted late, so it has to wait a few days in proposed - but test sare good
[16:25] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: what is it that you need on that one ahasenack?
[16:25] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: sponsorship for artful
[16:26] <ahasenack> and then I can proceed with sru'ing it to the other releases where it just doesn't work
[16:26] <ahasenack> I have a ppa with the fix for people to test: https://launchpad.net/~ahasenack/+archive/ubuntu/samba-1677329/+packages
[16:26] <ahasenack> builds with the appropriate ~ppa1 suffix ;)
[16:26] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I need to tell you about bileto on the sprint
[16:27] <ahasenack> do tell
[16:27] <cpaelzer> which would make this a one-button action
[16:27] <cpaelzer> it is a repetition for the others so not on the agenda, but please remind me
[16:27] <cpaelzer> nacc: you did samba things in the past - could you sponsor the upload ?
[16:28] <nacc> cpaelzer: i can -- isa it ready to sponsor?
[16:28] <nacc> reading the backscroll
[16:28] <nacc> ahasenack: ping me in #ubuntu-server after this and i'll review it
[16:28] <cpaelzer> nacc: it is, if you want it in a different way then let ahasenack know
[16:28] <ahasenack> ok, thanks
[16:28] <cpaelzer> #ACTION: nacc to review and sponsor ahasenack work on bug 1677329
[16:28] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to review and sponsor ahasenack work on bug 1677329
[16:29] <ubottu> bug 1677329 in samba (Ubuntu Zesty) "libpam-winbind: unable to dlopen" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1677329
[16:29] <cpaelzer> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
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[16:29] <cpaelzer> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:29] <cpaelzer> copy and paste please
[16:29] <powersj> Last week involved getting the initial collection metrics setup and into Prometheus. Also started on the proposed automation testing and was able to get a jenkins job setup with nightly checks for uploads and determine what tests, if any, need to be ran.
[16:29] <powersj> This week the focus is on getting cloud-init/curtin CI pipeline setup to extend our merge request testing past unit tests and include integration, build, etc. testing. Also hoping to get my proposed automation testing further working to demo next week.
[16:30] <powersj> #info continue work on proposed automation testing
[16:30] <powersj> questions?
[16:30] <cpaelzer> proposed automation testing is based on https://launchpad.net/qa-regression-testing right?
[16:30] <powersj> cpaelzer: ys
[16:30] <powersj> yes*
[16:30] <cpaelzer> just as my qemu/libvirt tests
[16:30] <cpaelzer> nice
[16:30] <cpaelzer> I used more of them looking forward to discuss and help in case
[16:30] <cpaelzer> e.g. strongswan I used
[16:31] <cpaelzer> interested how you wrapped that to work in jenkins
[16:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://launchpad.net/qa-regression-testing
[16:31] <cpaelzer> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
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[16:31] <smb> No news (those are said to be the good ones I hear). Are there questions/remarks/requests?
[16:32] <ahasenack> smb: do we carry a big apparmor delta regarding the upstream kernel?
[16:33] <smb> ahasenack, it can vary but I can tell from the top of my head how big that is in each kernel
[16:33] <ahasenack> ok
[16:33] <cpaelzer> thanks smb, I assume s/can/can't/ above
[16:34] <cpaelzer> otherwise I'd be extra impressed
[16:34] <ahasenack> same :)
[16:34] <smb> indeed
[16:34] <cpaelzer> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
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[16:34] <cpaelzer> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:34] <cpaelzer> nothing on my radar that is important - anybody?
[16:34] <cpaelzer> 3
[16:34] <cpaelzer> 2
[16:34] <cpaelzer> 1
[16:34] <cpaelzer> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
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[16:35] <cpaelzer> we sprint internally next week as you have seen on some actions we moved there
[16:35] <cpaelzer> anything on top we should consider/discuss there?
[16:35] <cpaelzer> silence = no
[16:35] <cpaelzer> #topic Open Discussion
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[16:35] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: could you outline the doc thing you wanted to discuss
[16:35] <cpaelzer> I remember the discussion about 3 weeks ago
[16:35] <ahasenack> ah, right
[16:36] <cpaelzer> you wanted to get stuff into serverguide (and I read you have/are on the way)
[16:36] <ahasenack> so tl;dr, I merged many fixes to the serverguide
[16:36] <ahasenack> and that's ready for release/publishing
[16:36] <cpaelzer> ok thats is a +1 for you
[16:36] <cpaelzer> \o/
[16:36] <ahasenack> the doc team then told me they will proceed with that, but first they wanted to check on something about unattended upgrades that was brought up elsewhere
[16:36] <ahasenack> (not by me)
[16:37] <ahasenack> and I didn't remembe that, until I saw that action here before
[16:37] <cpaelzer> hrm - still sounds as one should not block th eother
[16:37] <cpaelzer> was that update on the merge proposal?
[16:37] <ahasenack> no
[16:37] <ahasenack> the MPs have all been merged
[16:37] <cpaelzer> ah you mean before the point release they want to check
[16:37] <ahasenack> it was brought up in ubuntu-doc, in the reply to my publishing request
[16:37] <ahasenack> right
[16:37] <ahasenack> they wanted to try to include those changes in the point release as well
[16:37] <cpaelzer> maybe they have another change in flight which they'd like to include
[16:37] <cpaelzer> ah ok, now things make sense
[16:38] <ahasenack> and after seeing that action item
[16:38] <cpaelzer> do you happen to know if that is (or not) related to this kernel cleanup thing which is a task for dpb1?
[16:38] <ahasenack> I wondered if we were blocking that for them
[16:38] <cpaelzer> ok, so wondering not knowing if it IS the same item
[16:38] <ahasenack> I *think* it is related, but it's vague to me
[16:38] <cpaelzer> ok, dpb1 on that item could you do a few prechecks before next week so we know what to do onthat?
[16:38] <cpaelzer> part of the action you already have
[16:39] <ahasenack> I can paste the reply here
[16:39] <cpaelzer> yeah please
[16:39] <ahasenack> paste incoming (short)
[16:39] <ahasenack> "However, over on the Ubuntu-server e-mail list and meeting reports there was some stuff
[16:39] <ahasenack> about getting help addressing the unattended upgrades issues, and someone took the action
[16:39] <ahasenack> item. I'm going to try to kick that list and get some help, towards the objective of
[16:39] <ahasenack> including those fixes in this same point release cycle. So, there will be a delay before
[16:39] <ahasenack> string freeze is declared for this point release cycle."
[16:39] <dpb1> cpaelzer: I might not have time this week.
[16:39] <ahasenack> might that "someone" be dpb1?
[16:39] <cpaelzer> ok, ahasenack is next week early enough?
[16:39] <cpaelzer> I guess yes
[16:39] <ahasenack> sure
[16:39] <cpaelzer> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
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[16:40] <cpaelzer> we will be around same time (from the sprint)
[16:40] <cpaelzer> chait will again be rbasak
[16:40] <cpaelzer> who will do the mail/wiki updates today for me covering him I hope
[16:40] <cpaelzer> as I have to run to a parent teacher conference now :-)
[16:40] <cpaelzer> #chair rbasak
[16:40] <meetingology> Current chairs: cpaelzer rbasak
[16:40] <cpaelzer> you can close rbasak, so you get the link
[16:41] <rbasak> #endmeeting
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[16:41] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 30 16:41:01 2017 UTC.
[16:41] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-30-16.06.moin.txt
[16:41] <rharper> cpaelzer: thanks!
[16:41] <rbasak> Thanks cpaelzer!
[16:41] <cpaelzer> thank you everybody, and see you soon
[16:41] <ahasenack> thx cpaelzer
[16:42] <powersj> o/ thx cpaelzer
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[20:01] <slashd> cpaelzer, sorry I was on PTO, will be there next week, what is the best way to let you know in advance when I'm not attending the meeting ?
[20:05] <dpb1> slashd: email to chair person with that info, or a backup who can cover for you would be good.
[20:06] <slashd> dpb1, where can I find who chair the meeting ?
[20:06] <dpb1> glad you asked!
[20:07] <dpb1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[20:07] <slashd> dpb1, thanks